Yes, thanks for providing the opportunity for us to use a ford van to fjord stable creeks, work in conservative ice/snow conditions, and provide other aspects associated with AWD safety and capability. I but merely fjording the proverbial river-of-requests for the van’
Thank-you Jorge. My sincerely sorry error. I got my English mixed up between ‘ford’, ‘fjord’, and ‘forge’. Thank-you again. ...and not be be confused either with ‘foraging’ which is Cali / Oregon government-endorsed homeless... oh my, dear, poor people. just sayin’
I'm thinking of doing a Tundra camper van with a tall bed cap and a power steps on each side of the hitch. May fiberglass my own cap if I need to. It might be a better option than these super crappy American vans. It'll be able to tow a small trailer with the bigger engine and an Aisin tranny that won't blow up at 40K like a Ford.
Way better than the PRO Master and Sprinters (they're so unreliable) Amazon has been implementing the Ford's and buying less Sprinters because of the constant service repairs
Wrong. The sprinter is the better one by far. Ford is always a the repair shop. I have 2 friends who work at Ford dealership. One is a mechanic and the other one a part person. The transit is sucks and it's always a the repair shop. Yes you pay more for the sprinter 4x4 but it's much better. I have a 2016 4x4 sprinter. Never have any problems
I don't understand the tow ratings on these things. They have plenty of payload, but the tow ratings are too low. Otherwise they'd be great for large bumper pulls.
why they don't wanna jack up the vans.. because alot of nursing homes use them and it's good for wheelchairs when it's lower.... white is the best seller world wide for the vans... cause they can add any kind of decals with any kind of design and colors on them.. so people can see them far away...
They like lower lift over heights for loading cargo and for driver/passenger ingress and egress. Though the van life/overland crowd has grown over the years the market for high ground clearance, hardcore off road ready vans is incredibly small compared to the cargo hauling and people hauling market. As always, anyone wanting a vehicle that falls outside the realm of what can be sold to the masses will have to do their own modifications or choose another route. Such as paying someone else to modify a platform to suit your needs.
Dave P That’s why Ford sells chassis in two ways. If you want to build a custom truck/van, you buy a chassis and you customize it to what you want. You don’t buy a high roof van and then cut everything off. That’s a waste of money. There are shops that will make whatever you want on a chassis.
www.transitcounty4x4.co.uk/ The County 4x4 Transit (factory option) was available from 2nd generation in the early 1980s/late 70s - so they have some experience www.agrimanuals.com/ekmps/shops/vintagetractor/images/county-4x4-transit-brochure-13872-p.jpg
Craig E Why do you need Humvee capability in a camper van? It has such a high center if gravity and do little ground clearance that it’s like getting a spoiler wing on a city bus.
George L I take my van as far as I can out on forest roads to camp. From the factory, the tires, open diff, and low clearance are big obstacles. With KO2s, a 2.5” lift kit, and a locker, my van doesn’t keep me from going where I want to go
It was noted in the video that you can't get the 4.10 axle ratio with the EcoBoost. You wouldn't need it in the first place b/c that'll just make the tires spin out of control--you could do a burnout without ANY effort!
@@afcgeo882 Could you elaborate to help us who doesn't own anything taller than a regular suv. I think , would you mean it might / could , possible, the high roof van will tip over or roll-over ? ? Thank you .
@@enzoh7763 The higher off the ground the center of gravity is, the higher the likelihood of a rollover. If you don’t know what a center of gravity is, look it up. I’m not your teacher.
Almost $60k and one light bulb on each side in the rear for the tail light/brake and turn signal. Why did they drop the Amber turn signals in the rear? Just being CHEAP!
Just as a point of interest over here in the UK Ford charges you an additional £500 ! for any other colour that is not White! ....The white over here is what they package as a industry free standard ,....which in a way is a ripoff to be charged for wanting your vehicle to be a certain colour ! When they already make them in the darn colour that you are wanting already!.... I was going to buy a brand new one from them until they wanted to charge me an additional £500 to deliver it to me! Oh I will add that I only live 7 miles from the dealership! .. all the dam hidden extras in buying a new vehicle when there all added up you could probably have bought a reasonable second hand one! Needless to say that I didn’t go with Ford!
They need one more line, a Camper Build line. Start at no seats and stick shift. Now add radiant heat for floors, insulation throughout, all van A/C, place for solar panels, cable channels, a place on roof ready to be cut for a fan, rear camera, lift kits, things like that. You can option it up to a build-ready stage and then you do flooring, cabinets, galley, etc. For now anyway, campers are still a growth industry and they should address it somehow.
Been looking at these Van's a lot more as of lately with the family growing not interested in the medium or high roof configuration but would love to see a performance and towing video once that diesel comes out with a comparison between a similar equipped sprinter van
David Roderick Is it though? Technically, it’s EXACTLY the same thing. The two different monikers are simply marketing terms. Both mean that all wheels are powered.
George L I’m not an expert in this but this is my experience with AWD vs 4WD. For work I was provided a company suv a Ford Escape that was 4WD and had to be manually engaged with a button selector on the dash for 4 hi and 4 low and 2wd. The owners manual indicated that 4WD was not to be activated on pavement, particularly dry pavement (exception being snow or ice covered roads) and was for off road use only. It I engaged it on pavement a binding effect would occur in the drivetrain especially while making a turn. Off road or slippery pavement conditions the binding effect was relieved because occasional slippage of wheels on slippery surfaces eliminated the binding. Later on I was provided a Ford Edge with AWD. No knob on the dash and under most driving conditions was I believe front wheel drive. If slippage was detected the computer kicked in AWD seamlessly when needed and off when not. No binding of drive train occurred and system was very effective when snow/ice slippage occurred and likely activated in rain conditions as well. On actual off road driving the 4WD was better than AWD as it offered the low range. My only experience is with these 2 fords so perhaps it’s different with other manufacturers but I can say that excluding extreme off road 4 wheeling, the AWD for day to day driving was superior to 4WD for these 2 examples. Apologies for the long write up.
So umm, my car drives all four wheels all the time? I guess it's not driving the spare wheel! I have no option for it to do anything other than drive all the wheels. On the road it's driving all the wheels, off the road it's driving all the wheels, when the going gets tough I put it in low range and it's still driving all the wheels but with more torque. Reversing a heavy trailer up a hill I'll stick it in low range and leave the centre diff unlocked. Driving on ice I'll leave it in high but with the centre diff locked. With the centre diff unlocked you could argue it's one wheel drive because if any one wheel slips you stop moving. With the centre diff locked it goes in to two axle drive. Only things like the G Wagen with three diff locks can be truly all (or any) wheel drive under all circumstances.
Something like a Subaru (symmetric all wheel drive) will detect slip or traction in any wheel and can be superior to true 4wd. (3 wheels on rollers etc, sand, cambers) My Ford 1998 Expedition has 2wd, AWD, and 4wd (high and low). I can switch between 2wd and AWD at any speed, but must stop and neutral it for 4wd. Only need 4wd when you think you may not make it (ice uphills), gnarly stuff. AWD is preferred driving since the front wheels get some traction and pull the vehicle instead of just a 2wd push = going around round abouts or icy roads. 4wd with the lockers will make the tires chirp/wear around turns etc.
You guys are great but you’re confusing me with the AWD to 4 x 4. Otherwise great job. Merry Christmas and happy new year and may God bless you always. 👍👍👍
I feel like ford price some of these normal feature that you would find on other vehicle like auto head light, cruise control, even parking brake, and then took those off and turn around use them as add on marketing !
Hey my boss please talk to me and tell me if this engines belongs to the group of the water pump inside the engine which is causing nothing but big headaches to owners because of the stupidity’s ford poor design. Will wait for answer of any one who knows about this issue.
EV Conversion - because after 4 hours on the road with your family, YOU need a 1 hour break. Plus state and federal parks and some private campgrounds have powered campsites with 30 or 50 amp hookups so you can sleep in climate controlled comfort while you recharge.
@@fenflyer Now in Europe we have some EV vans of the size of Transit VW Crafter - it gets 108 mile range (empty without load) or 85 miles with AC on. 0-60 does not exist, max speed is 55 mph. Cost is like 4x more than 4 Crafter TDi vans (close to 80k $, the base TDi costs ~~20k $). It has 136 ? HP It can take up to 1000 kg (2200 lbs) load. Mercedes E Vito - it gets 90 miles of range (empty car) no data on AC use or heater or with full load. 0-60 they are ashamed of ... the max speed factory tells you its 75 mph. Price 2x normal Mercedes Vito (45k $). 116 HP :D It can take 1000 kg (2200 lbs) Nissan E NV200 -- this is a smaller van, less load (700kg or 1550 lbs). Thanks to being a smaller car it has range from 200 up to 300 km (120 ~ 180 miles). The price is 3x a simmilar gas powered van (40k $)
Those 2.0L diesels are crap! They are wearing out too fast, smoking blue and white. My boss had two and they both had major engine issues with smoke, oil use, drinking too much towing compared to other make vans.
I wonder whether it is possible to make a special order for a Ford Transit (low roof model, long overall lenght 237.6 in model) with hinged cargo swing doors on *both* sides of the vehicle. If not possible : perhaps hinged cargo swing doors on right side, and sliding door on left side?
@@sikinboat Dammed you are right! Thanks for this information. I suspected that it was not possible to install a hinged door on the left side, but I hoped that it was possible to install a sliding door.fr.shop.ford.ca/build/transitcommercial/#/select/Config%5B%7CFord%7CTransit%20VanWagon%7C2020%7C1%7C1.%7C101A.E1Y.....XL.20A.VW.LRR.2WD.998.CS1.~YZKAA.X73.44U.VRE.%5D: No recess on the left side to install a slide, but this recess exists for higher roof models. it is regrettable.
Need 4x4, these vans suck off road compared to the E-series. I'm taking work, loaded with all my concrete cutting & drilling gear. Plus towing a 55kw generator. Ironically like the thumb nail.
Picked up a 2020 mid height AWD May 2024. 99% on the market are white. Mine is Magnetic Metallic...in essence, black. ADVENTURES lie ahead, as this wiil NOT be a work van!
2023 No longer AWD on passenger but the starting price of same model 2WD is $5400.. Ford !!! outrageous,, jacking up $10K MSRP and Ford company is blaming on dealer marker up?
Unfortunately I haven't seen one that's a V8. They are V6 turbos. Turbos will wear out much faster. Sure wished they made them V8s and diesel. I will buy GMC. But they look beautiful. But I don't buy for looks. I go for performance, power, endurance and lots of load capacity. And I don't need turbo unless It's a racing car.
@@nielsdebakker3283 everyone it shows a five seater he's calling it a six seater, he's assuming that it's still three seats in the front and not reading what is on screen.
Automatic Door opener? Here is alternative option for Ford Transit by AdorUSA.com Compliment greatly to the vehicle use and comfort! Automatic Electric Power Sliding Door opener for side door. Works for all Ford Transits, years and versions. Easy to install even for DIY. Made to last (-50C to +-50C). Affordable! around $1000 Designed for commercial use - 800 openings/closing a day for life time of the car! You can control speed and distance to door operation. Works from buttons, handle and remote keys. They are also working on great automatic PowerStep. Pretty Cool!
I live in turkey transit in our country's current price 150000 ₺ and there's only one engine option available 2.0 4-cylinder engine and automatic and manual option
Pagrator Tersot “Easy to break into” isn’t a reliability concern. Just so you know, for those who want to break into a van, EVERY can is easy to break into.
We have one of these in a 2018 High top roof model XL base with standard options, We change oil every 3000k miles rotate tires every 6000k miles> we have had it for 2 years and put 18k miles on it. No problems with it. here is the key do not listen to the manual when it says lifetime fluids that is BS. Ours is a 14 passenger van at a hotel.. As I am shuttle manager. I will be changing the antifreeze at 30k miles and trans fluid at 45k miles no matter what. Just maintain your fluids more regular and the will last. the only reason they say life time fluids is so major components will break after warranty. They say every 5000 miles for oil changes I don't buy that change oil every 3000 miles for optimum performance. Also you 93 or higher octane and gas MPG will increase 20 percent. That's all we put in our Transit 350 and were getting 20MPG all around.
Car&Driver did a review of the Ram Promaster, Ford Transit and Benz Sprinter several years back. All with the diesel engine option. They hated the single clutch automated manual transmission in the Promaster. They said it is the only vehicle the have ever reviewed in the history of the magazine that received a zero in any subjective review category. It received the zero for the transmission from one of the three reviewers. The other two gave the transmission a 1 out of 5 rating. I believe they said that the shifting was so bad as to be unsafe if trying to pull out on the road.
I have driven all 3 dozens of times as rentals. (Sprinter, Transit, Promaster) Promaster is one of the worst vehicles I have ever driven. Terrible driving position, seats, powertrain and looks. The only thing good about them is the near vertical walls and total interior volume.
I'm considering the extended length AWD Transit and the long wheelbase 4x4 Sprinter for a RV build. I would definitely prefer to have proper 4WD, which Ford should have offered, but I think the Transit's AWD would probably suffice, although I do plan to go off the beaten path regularly in this thing. Another big complaint about the Transit is the massive 6.3 ft rear overhang on the longest version. Ford really needs to offer a longer wheelbase Transit. The longest WB offered is 148" which is just 4" longer than MB short Sprinter. MB offers a 170" WB Sprinter and an extended version that is over 2 ft longer than the longest Transit. Having a larger footprint on a big heavy vehicle like this massively improves ride, handling and overall stability. Dealing with the diesel might be a bit of a headache, but I've owned diesels in the past and know how to maintain them, so that's not a deal breaker. Plus, despite the Sprinter having a nicer interior and slightly better build quality, it doesn't cost any more than the Transit at the higher end. Based on what each one offers right now, I'd probably choose the Sprinter, but I still have some time. Hopefully, Ford will make some of these improvements because I'd rather have the more common and cheaper to maintain Ford when it comes down to it.
@@The_Opinion_of_Matt I know this, which is why I'm most likely getting a Sprinter. Ford missed an opportunity to really take on the Sprinter, particularly in the class B RV space where 4WD is a huge selling feature.
If you feel like spending $12k, Quigley will modify your Transit with a proper two-range 4WD system as a dealer-ordered option. They'll intercept the van from Ford, do the work and deliver to the dealer. Because Quigley uses almost all Ford parts, the system can be serviced at Ford dealers. You can even roll that $12k into your financing, if you want to spend an extra $12,000...
@@tinygnat The cost of the Quigely conversion has gone up recently. I believe it's over $14,000 now. I'm saying Ford could easily offer 4x4 as an option, certainly for less than $5,000 or so, and they'd make a killing, while saving customers money.
@@dlg5485 They're up to $14k? That's nuts. I agree that there's no reason Ford shouldn't be offering this. There's certainly a market for it. Ford's AWD parts are mostly from the explorer, which has a locking center diff. Quigley's Ford parts are from the F-150 and the Raptor. It's not like Ford would need to pour a bunch into R&D.
It's about time someone put AWD or 4x4 on a full sized van. I see people complain about the transit sucking in snow. We don't get much snow here in Louisiana but I do have to travel down nasty unpaved roads sometimes ànd my 2016 GMC work van sucks with the open differential.
They stopped using rubber giubos over 2 years ago. Our late 2017 came with a conventional u-joint driveshaft. They're still working through the recalls to provide a permanent fix for the others. BTW, the reason the rubber couplers fail here in North America and have no issue in Europe? North American drivers basically never set the parking brake when parking, so the driveshaft remains under torque in park.
would love the diesel engine as an option in the ranger even if there is no raptor it would still be a towing beast and with the fx4 pretty close to the ranger raptor
Have they figured out the driveshaft carrier situation yet? Last i heard they were on backorder wondering if this newer version is an updated style vs previous transit.
I always enjoy these configurator videos with Andre
Wishful thinking but great idea
I have a TUNDRA... Looking at trading for Sprinter 4x4 or Four wheel camper topper. If Toyota build a TUNDRA cargo van platform... I'm in.
2021 Transit Raptor with the raptor engine....for getting to the airport faster !
Yes, thanks for providing the opportunity for us to use a ford van to fjord stable creeks, work in conservative ice/snow conditions, and provide other aspects associated with AWD safety and capability.
I but merely fjording the proverbial river-of-requests for the van’
rob379 It’s FORD, not fjord. You ford a creek.
Thank-you Jorge. My sincerely sorry error.
I got my English mixed up between ‘ford’, ‘fjord’, and ‘forge’.
Thank-you again.
...and not be be confused either with ‘foraging’ which is Cali / Oregon government-endorsed homeless... oh my, dear, poor people.
just sayin’
10-speed transmission on Ford Transit no good my Ford Transit 2017 works better than 2020 6 Speed Way smoother than 10 speed I own both of them
Quality is still crap, certainly not the same as the oldschool built ones.
not reliable
DEAR Santa, Give me the high roof with
the extended package. Sprinkle in the AWD!
Man I wish Toyota would offer full size 4x4 Vans on the Tundra Platform here in the US!
The hiace is now full size, I'm researching how to purchase and register one in Mexico.
If Toyota sold a commercial van in the US, it would be over for all the US manufacturers.
LifeisGreat You’re right about that!
I'm thinking of doing a Tundra camper van with a tall bed cap and a power steps on each side of the hitch. May fiberglass my own cap if I need to. It might be a better option than these super crappy American vans. It'll be able to tow a small trailer with the bigger engine and an Aisin tranny that won't blow up at 40K like a Ford.
@@FWtravels HAHA, that's what theysaid about 1/2 tons a quarter century ago!
I would love to own one and also trick it out. That would be a great traveling vehicle for traveling with your family around the country
Plain vans nowadays costing 40k and pick ups 80k am not sure where we are going wrong
Way better than the PRO Master and Sprinters (they're so unreliable) Amazon has been implementing the Ford's and buying less Sprinters because of the constant service repairs
The Promaster rocks.
I thought Amazon used Metris vans?
@@hugolafhugolaf Oh no those are too small
Wrong. The sprinter is the better one by far. Ford is always a the repair shop. I have 2 friends who work at Ford dealership. One is a mechanic and the other one a part person. The transit is sucks and it's always a the repair shop. Yes you pay more for the sprinter 4x4 but it's much better. I have a 2016 4x4 sprinter. Never have any problems
I'm waiting for Nathan to do TFL EV, on new Ford Transit EV 👍😎
* Transit PHEV
Dear Ford: why can't I have the medium top crew with the extended?!? I had a Quigley E350 and regretted not having the extra 20"!!!
Ford is on point to up the game for the next few years
I don't understand the tow ratings on these things. They have plenty of payload, but the tow ratings are too low. Otherwise they'd be great for large bumper pulls.
@tflnow You guys should really help persuade GM to put the new 3.0L Duramax in the 2020-2021 Express/Savanna.
why they don't wanna jack up the vans.. because alot of nursing homes use them and it's good for wheelchairs when it's lower.... white is the best seller world wide for the vans... cause they can add any kind of decals with any kind of design and colors on them.. so people can see them far away...
White is also the cheapest color paint to produce, but yes very universal for fleet vehicles.
When it comes to wheelchairs, height is irrelevant. They use ramps/lifts anyway. It’s so that the cargo can be lifted easier.
They like lower lift over heights for loading cargo and for driver/passenger ingress and egress. Though the van life/overland crowd has grown over the years the market for high ground clearance, hardcore off road ready vans is incredibly small compared to the cargo hauling and people hauling market. As always, anyone wanting a vehicle that falls outside the realm of what can be sold to the masses will have to do their own modifications or choose another route. Such as paying someone else to modify a platform to suit your needs.
Dave P That’s why Ford sells chassis in two ways. If you want to build a custom truck/van, you buy a chassis and you customize it to what you want. You don’t buy a high roof van and then cut everything off. That’s a waste of money. There are shops that will make whatever you want on a chassis.
Finally, 4 WD (?) in Ford van! This will be an excellent camping van. Just what I need.
www.transitcounty4x4.co.uk/
The County 4x4 Transit (factory option) was available from 2nd generation in the early 1980s/late 70s - so they have some experience
www.agrimanuals.com/ekmps/shops/vintagetractor/images/county-4x4-transit-brochure-13872-p.jpg
Buy the open diff van, install KO2s and a locker.... save 10k+ for close capabilities.
Craig E Why do you need Humvee capability in a camper van? It has such a high center if gravity and do little ground clearance that it’s like getting a spoiler wing on a city bus.
George L I take my van as far as I can out on forest roads to camp. From the factory, the tires, open diff, and low clearance are big obstacles. With KO2s, a 2.5” lift kit, and a locker, my van doesn’t keep me from going where I want to go
brokensolenoid Yeah, but I’ll bet you’d get just as far with just good tires. Some people just like to waste money.
For that price, it needs a 100k bumper to bumper, no deductible warranty
Perfect When the Guarantee Goes for TEN YEARS too.!.
Those ecoboost vans are pretty quick. At least when they’re empty...
It was noted in the video that you can't get the 4.10 axle ratio with the EcoBoost. You wouldn't need it in the first place b/c that'll just make the tires spin out of control--you could do a burnout without ANY effort!
I’ve driven the extended 15 pax low roof Transit and it’s quick enough even when loaded. You take a turn too quick and you can kill everyone inside.
@@afcgeo882
Could you elaborate to help us who doesn't own anything taller than a regular suv.
I think , would you mean it might / could , possible, the high roof van will tip over or roll-over ? ?
Thank you .
@@enzoh7763 The higher off the ground the center of gravity is, the higher the likelihood of a rollover. If you don’t know what a center of gravity is, look it up. I’m not your teacher.
Almost $60k and one light bulb on each side in the rear for the tail light/brake and turn signal. Why did they drop the Amber turn signals in the rear? Just being CHEAP!
I think you went back and forth from 4WD to AWD way too many times, at this point I don't know which one of the 2 it's actually equipped with...
Just as a point of interest over here in the UK Ford charges you an additional £500 ! for any other colour that is not White! ....The white over here is what they package as a industry free standard ,....which in a way is a ripoff to be charged for wanting your vehicle to be a certain colour ! When they already make them in the darn colour that you are wanting already!.... I was going to buy a brand new one from them until they wanted to charge me an additional £500 to deliver it to me! Oh I will add that I only live 7 miles from the dealership! .. all the dam hidden extras in buying a new vehicle when there all added up you could probably have bought a reasonable second hand one! Needless to say that I didn’t go with Ford!
They need one more line, a Camper Build line. Start at no seats and stick shift. Now add radiant heat for floors, insulation throughout, all van A/C, place for solar panels, cable channels, a place on roof ready to be cut for a fan, rear camera, lift kits, things like that. You can option it up to a build-ready stage and then you do flooring, cabinets, galley, etc. For now anyway, campers are still a growth industry and they should address it somehow.
SURPRISE! Ford Trail now available, wit 2.5 inch lift
Been looking at these Van's a lot more as of lately with the family growing not interested in the medium or high roof configuration but would love to see a performance and towing video once that diesel comes out with a comparison between a similar equipped sprinter van
Great video! I'm so glad they now offer AWD! Needs wider tires though.
Please do an Ecoboost AWD Ike fully loaded towing with there new 2020s!
AWD is NOT 4x4...big difference.
D LG, he lost all my interest.
AWD is huge for these... I'm totally buying a 12 passenger wagon now with theses improvements / updates...
The Transit AWD can send 100% of power to either axle. The Sprinter's "4WD" is only capable of a 1/3rd front, 2/3 rear torque-bias.
If it drives all four wheels...?
My car drives all four wheels all the time, it's most definitely four wheel drive!
Plus awd not available on the best motor the diesel :(
Van Ike gauntlet
I would like to buy a high top and convert it.
As a master mechanic i would get the Ford in my opinion and i would get the diesel 4x4 OD green. 😁
Master mechanic , with Ford ?
Sorry, changing the axle ratio does not affect traction. ;)
Correct. Maybe he meant going from Non limited slip to limited slip it will.
Let's get something straight all wheel drive is not four-wheel drive.
David Roderick Is it though? Technically, it’s EXACTLY the same thing. The two different monikers are simply marketing terms. Both mean that all wheels are powered.
George L I’m not an expert in this but this is my experience with AWD vs 4WD. For work I was provided a company suv a Ford Escape that was 4WD and had to be manually engaged with a button selector on the dash for 4 hi and 4 low and 2wd. The owners manual indicated that 4WD was not to be activated on pavement, particularly dry pavement (exception being snow or ice covered roads) and was for off road use only. It I engaged it on pavement a binding effect would occur in the drivetrain especially while making a turn. Off road or slippery pavement conditions the binding effect was relieved because occasional slippage of wheels on slippery surfaces eliminated the binding. Later on I was provided a Ford Edge with AWD. No knob on the dash and under most driving conditions was I believe front wheel drive. If slippage was detected the computer kicked in AWD seamlessly when needed and off when not. No binding of drive train occurred and system was very effective when snow/ice slippage occurred and likely activated in rain conditions as well. On actual off road driving the 4WD was better than AWD as it offered the low range. My only experience is with these 2 fords so perhaps it’s different with other manufacturers but I can say that excluding extreme off road 4 wheeling, the AWD for day to day driving was superior to 4WD for these 2 examples. Apologies for the long write up.
So umm, my car drives all four wheels all the time? I guess it's not driving the spare wheel! I have no option for it to do anything other than drive all the wheels.
On the road it's driving all the wheels, off the road it's driving all the wheels, when the going gets tough I put it in low range and it's still driving all the wheels but with more torque. Reversing a heavy trailer up a hill I'll stick it in low range and leave the centre diff unlocked. Driving on ice I'll leave it in high but with the centre diff locked.
With the centre diff unlocked you could argue it's one wheel drive because if any one wheel slips you stop moving. With the centre diff locked it goes in to two axle drive. Only things like the G Wagen with three diff locks can be truly all (or any) wheel drive under all circumstances.
Something like a Subaru (symmetric all wheel drive) will detect slip or traction in any wheel and can be superior to true 4wd. (3 wheels on rollers etc, sand, cambers)
My Ford 1998 Expedition has 2wd, AWD, and 4wd (high and low). I can switch between 2wd and AWD at any speed, but must stop and neutral it for 4wd. Only need 4wd when you think you may not make it (ice uphills), gnarly stuff. AWD is preferred driving since the front wheels get some traction and pull the vehicle instead of just a 2wd push = going around round abouts or icy roads. 4wd with the lockers will make the tires chirp/wear around turns etc.
All will drive is far superior unless you want to go off road in your new 40k plus van.
Since it's AWD, will it have a locking center differential and low range? I doubt it, but figured ask.
You guys are great but you’re confusing me with the AWD to 4 x 4. Otherwise great job. Merry Christmas and happy new year and may God bless you always. 👍👍👍
We need to see off-road tests!
I feel like ford price some of these normal feature that you would find on other vehicle like auto head light, cruise control, even parking brake, and then took those off and turn around use them as add on marketing !
How does it compare to the sprinter van performance and reliability wise
How about a awd camper van that is what Imterested in. It would be more reliable and cheaper to work on than a mercedes camper van.
Hey my boss please talk to me and tell me if this engines belongs to the group of the water pump inside the engine which is causing nothing but big headaches to owners because of the stupidity’s ford poor design. Will wait for answer of any one who knows about this issue.
The real advantage of dual rear wheels is stability. The older 15 passenger vans were an enormous rollover risk. Killed lots of people.
I need this! Ok, maybe I just want it.
Nice vans Ford, especially the duelly rear,4wd, wow wished I had one,but way out of my league,
* Ford Transit PHEV?
No.
@@johnnymichael1804 'YES' it's the future especially for motorhome conversions and urban delivery vans 😎
EV Conversion - because after 4 hours on the road with your family, YOU need a 1 hour break.
Plus state and federal parks and some private campgrounds have powered campsites with 30 or 50 amp hookups so you can sleep in climate controlled comfort while you recharge.
@@fenflyer Now in Europe we have some EV vans of the size of Transit
VW Crafter - it gets 108 mile range (empty without load) or 85 miles with AC on. 0-60 does not exist, max speed is 55 mph. Cost is like 4x more than 4 Crafter TDi vans (close to 80k $, the base TDi costs ~~20k $). It has 136 ? HP It can take up to 1000 kg (2200 lbs) load.
Mercedes E Vito - it gets 90 miles of range (empty car) no data on AC use or heater or with full load. 0-60 they are ashamed of ... the max speed factory tells you its 75 mph. Price 2x normal Mercedes Vito (45k $). 116 HP :D
It can take 1000 kg (2200 lbs)
Nissan E NV200 -- this is a smaller van, less load (700kg or 1550 lbs). Thanks to being a smaller car it has range from 200 up to 300 km (120 ~ 180 miles). The price is 3x a simmilar gas powered van (40k $)
@@IronmanV5 Yep or a a PHEV Transit with engine driven 50 kw generator to recharge the batteries, be great off grid touring in a Transit motorhome 👍
Why the heck would wheel well liners be an option? Should be standard.
Those 2.0L diesels are crap! They are wearing out too fast, smoking blue and white. My boss had two and they both had major engine issues with smoke, oil use, drinking too much towing compared to other make vans.
I wonder whether it is possible to make a special order for a Ford Transit (low roof model, long overall lenght 237.6 in model) with hinged cargo swing doors on *both* sides of the vehicle.
If not possible : perhaps hinged cargo swing doors on right side, and sliding door on left side?
On the low roof you can’t get doors on both sides. I work at the plant that makes them.
@@sikinboat
Dammed you are right! Thanks for this information. I suspected that it was not possible to install a hinged door on the left side, but I hoped that it was possible to install a sliding door.fr.shop.ford.ca/build/transitcommercial/#/select/Config%5B%7CFord%7CTransit%20VanWagon%7C2020%7C1%7C1.%7C101A.E1Y.....XL.20A.VW.LRR.2WD.998.CS1.~YZKAA.X73.44U.VRE.%5D: No recess on the left side to install a slide, but this recess exists for higher roof models. it is regrettable.
Lexus GX 470 vs gx460 old vs new
No one does these video configurations like you do. Absolutely great 🤠👍
Need 4x4, these vans suck off road compared to the E-series. I'm taking work, loaded with all my concrete cutting & drilling gear. Plus towing a 55kw generator. Ironically like the thumb nail.
Picked up a 2020 mid height AWD May 2024. 99% on the market are white. Mine is Magnetic Metallic...in essence, black. ADVENTURES lie ahead, as this wiil NOT be a work van!
The sprinter van interior looks really premium.
Shows the most Spartan, basic, plasticky sprinter that could be found.
J Lang Compared to the base Transit interior it is premium.
The perfect van. I have one for work and I love it.
Ground clearance and payload(more importantly) don’t Change with the awd
In Philippines ford transit already using 2.2 turbo diesel from mazda
@Omar Williams
Ford own Mazda,
Its so common in many parts of the world .
Many of Ford model are actually more of Mazda creations .
Timing belt or timing chain?
Pretty sure belt
2023 No longer AWD on passenger but the starting price of same model 2WD is $5400..
Ford !!! outrageous,, jacking up $10K MSRP and Ford company is blaming on dealer marker up?
Unfortunately I haven't seen one that's a V8. They are V6 turbos. Turbos will wear out much faster. Sure wished they made them V8s and diesel. I will buy GMC. But they look beautiful. But I don't buy for looks. I go for performance, power, endurance and lots of load capacity. And I don't need turbo unless It's a racing car.
You keep saying six seater when it is actually a five seater.
He wants a 6 seater option only does not realize it is not there...
Crewcab is max 5 person.
@@nielsdebakker3283 everyone it shows a five seater he's calling it a six seater, he's assuming that it's still three seats in the front and not reading what is on screen.
Automatic Door opener?
Here is alternative option for Ford Transit by AdorUSA.com
Compliment greatly to the vehicle use and comfort!
Automatic Electric Power Sliding Door opener for side door.
Works for all Ford Transits, years and versions.
Easy to install even for DIY. Made to last (-50C to +-50C). Affordable! around $1000
Designed for commercial use - 800 openings/closing a day for life time of the car!
You can control speed and distance to door operation. Works from buttons, handle and remote keys.
They are also working on great automatic PowerStep.
Pretty Cool!
Nowhere near as pretty as the VW Crafter
Mark milky Hammett I would agree
Thats a sprinter
Ford Transit Camper Problems, I don't forget. Please have a look here: www.promobil.de/werkstatt/motorschaeden-wie-geht-es-weiter/
I love my 2020 Transit 250, but like the owner's manual, your vid is no help. Still can't set the clock.
I live in turkey transit in our country's current price 150000 ₺ and there's only one engine option available 2.0 4-cylinder engine and automatic and manual option
leaving the ride height the same as the 2WD was a great idea. Thanks Ford!
These are very popular in Europe, Very reliable and Good looking Van
@@nichill7474 euro version is totally different and offered only with diesel.
Pagrator Tersot “Easy to break into” isn’t a reliability concern. Just so you know, for those who want to break into a van, EVERY can is easy to break into.
We have one of these in a 2018 High top roof model XL base with standard options, We change oil every 3000k miles rotate tires every 6000k miles> we have had it for 2 years and put 18k miles on it. No problems with it. here is the key do not listen to the manual when it says lifetime fluids that is BS. Ours is a 14 passenger van at a hotel.. As I am shuttle manager. I will be changing the antifreeze at 30k miles and trans fluid at 45k miles no matter what. Just maintain your fluids more regular and the will last. the only reason they say life time fluids is so major components will break after warranty. They say every 5000 miles for oil changes I don't buy that change oil every 3000 miles for optimum performance. Also you 93 or higher octane and gas MPG will increase 20 percent. That's all we put in our Transit 350 and were getting 20MPG all around.
Chris Lemaster What’s the cost difference between 87 and 93 by you? It’s around 30% where I live (NY).
@@V8_screw_electric_cars Thanks to our EPA dept that really needs to be overhauled!
Well I don’t think the diesel is coming to North America. I’m still hoping but it’s November 2021 and no diesel in site.
But are they still garbage mechanically? Designed to rustout, one time use bolts, undersized brakes.
Did they fix the driveshaft problem?!!!
So is it 4 wheel or all wheel??
Thank you for doing this video! So helpful!!!!!
I’d rather have the ProMaster. Just wish RAM offered it in AWD.
Talk to ram van owners and you’ll think otherwise.
Car&Driver did a review of the Ram Promaster, Ford Transit and Benz Sprinter several years back. All with the diesel engine option. They hated the single clutch automated manual transmission in the Promaster. They said it is the only vehicle the have ever reviewed in the history of the magazine that received a zero in any subjective review category. It received the zero for the transmission from one of the three reviewers. The other two gave the transmission a 1 out of 5 rating. I believe they said that the shifting was so bad as to be unsafe if trying to pull out on the road.
The Opinion of Matt diesel is not an option these days.
@@Roaming50 Thanks, I didn't realize that. Hopefully the gas engine uses a better transmission.
I have driven all 3 dozens of times as rentals. (Sprinter, Transit, Promaster) Promaster is one of the worst vehicles I have ever driven. Terrible driving position, seats, powertrain and looks. The only thing good about them is the near vertical walls and total interior volume.
I lived near Salt Lake, never seen a family look this normal there HAHA
Ford transit van is my biggessssssst love !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!💜💙💚
Give us configure of Nissan van
Thanks for the great review Andre
I want one for us that isn't going to break my pocket. Lol.
What do you mean at last? We have them in Europe for 20 years😂
AWD is NOT 4x4. Know the difference
Very nice. The new Transit is high on my list right now to convert. Thanks for for doing this vid.
I'm considering the extended length AWD Transit and the long wheelbase 4x4 Sprinter for a RV build. I would definitely prefer to have proper 4WD, which Ford should have offered, but I think the Transit's AWD would probably suffice, although I do plan to go off the beaten path regularly in this thing. Another big complaint about the Transit is the massive 6.3 ft rear overhang on the longest version. Ford really needs to offer a longer wheelbase Transit. The longest WB offered is 148" which is just 4" longer than MB short Sprinter. MB offers a 170" WB Sprinter and an extended version that is over 2 ft longer than the longest Transit. Having a larger footprint on a big heavy vehicle like this massively improves ride, handling and overall stability.
Dealing with the diesel might be a bit of a headache, but I've owned diesels in the past and know how to maintain them, so that's not a deal breaker. Plus, despite the Sprinter having a nicer interior and slightly better build quality, it doesn't cost any more than the Transit at the higher end. Based on what each one offers right now, I'd probably choose the Sprinter, but I still have some time. Hopefully, Ford will make some of these improvements because I'd rather have the more common and cheaper to maintain Ford when it comes down to it.
The Sprinter can be had with a transfer case with low range as well. It doesn't sound like the Ford will have that as an option.
@@The_Opinion_of_Matt I know this, which is why I'm most likely getting a Sprinter. Ford missed an opportunity to really take on the Sprinter, particularly in the class B RV space where 4WD is a huge selling feature.
If you feel like spending $12k, Quigley will modify your Transit with a proper two-range 4WD system as a dealer-ordered option. They'll intercept the van from Ford, do the work and deliver to the dealer. Because Quigley uses almost all Ford parts, the system can be serviced at Ford dealers. You can even roll that $12k into your financing, if you want to spend an extra $12,000...
@@tinygnat The cost of the Quigely conversion has gone up recently. I believe it's over $14,000 now. I'm saying Ford could easily offer 4x4 as an option, certainly for less than $5,000 or so, and they'd make a killing, while saving customers money.
@@dlg5485 They're up to $14k? That's nuts. I agree that there's no reason Ford shouldn't be offering this. There's certainly a market for it.
Ford's AWD parts are mostly from the explorer, which has a locking center diff. Quigley's Ford parts are from the F-150 and the Raptor. It's not like Ford would need to pour a bunch into R&D.
Happy to see AWD but I'm holding on to my current can til I can buy a EV van.
I went to south america recently and all of these types of vans were mb sprinters, or some chinese make
Asian vans a different Ford Transit is is a European van with EcoBoost in the u.s.
It's about time someone put AWD or 4x4 on a full sized van. I see people complain about the transit sucking in snow. We don't get much snow here in Louisiana but I do have to travel down nasty unpaved roads sometimes ànd my 2016 GMC work van sucks with the open differential.
It was night and day for me getting a lift and KO2s. Still worry about stacked snow, but do fine on packed roads.
there's sprinter 4x4
They couldn't design a proper driveshaft coupler for the 2wd, will the awd version require 2 couplers every 30,000 miles?
They stopped using rubber giubos over 2 years ago. Our late 2017 came with a conventional u-joint driveshaft. They're still working through the recalls to provide a permanent fix for the others. BTW, the reason the rubber couplers fail here in North America and have no issue in Europe? North American drivers basically never set the parking brake when parking, so the driveshaft remains under torque in park.
Ford is giving everyone a steel u joint. Got the letter last month.
Very nice job pointing out all the details, thank you!
A great day for humanity!
Today the base price is 49K and X4 the interest rate.
they seriously still list am/fm stereo as a feature lol
0:19 where’d all the kids go?
this year im afford to buy 2020 transit van
What's the interior height for their medium roof?
FORD is overpriced JUNK.
would love the diesel engine as an option in the ranger even if there is no raptor it would still be a towing beast and with the fx4 pretty close to the ranger raptor
It is used in the global Ranger and the Ranger Raptor they also use the 3.2 diesel as well
Is this available in the philippines? How much
Have they figured out the driveshaft carrier situation yet? Last i heard they were on backorder wondering if this newer version is an updated style vs previous transit.
I had a carrier bearing go out a few months ago, had to replace the whole driveshaft because it's designed that way.
what about the specs for the e-transit 2022?
0:58 How is it possible you have the E-series on it? If i go on Fords site, i can't find it
It's called the E Series Cutaway with multiple configurations www.ford.com/commercial-trucks/e-series-cutaway
The ugliest of all vans, it needs a new designer.
Put that bi-turbo in the ranger and I will buy it