Best Factory Paint Job Acura NSX? 18mil of Paint!
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Today I toured the Acura NSX factory in Marysville Ohio to understand how each NSX is painted and what makes there Andaro paint package a $6000 upgrade over base paint. This is a behind the scenes looks at the build, paint, and assembly process for the 2018 Acura NSX (and soon to be TLX). The Andaro paint package comes with 18m of paint!!!! Which is insane for a production vehicle. Hope you enjoy! -Larry
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Thank you for blessing us with this video, so amazing to see technical stuff like this. On another note, and probably not as thick or durable, but I'd be interested to see how this red looks next to a soul red crystal metallic 2018 CX-5, as that is still the best looking red I've ever laid eyes on. The new mazda red also has a tinted clear.
Those numbers actually change after the paint has fully cured. The manufacturer recommends 60 days before applying any sort of wax sealant or PPF to the paint. The Andaro for example after fully cured becomes about 10mm of paint. At 18mm the paint has not cured 100% yet. Hence the example Keith had at the bottom of his white board at the beginning of the video. Nice video!
Larry the type of guy to show up at a Honda factory wearing a Porsche jacket
Larry the type of guy to give his wife a Doug score after sex.
Sorry, wrong channel.
😂😂
It doesn't matter how wonderful the paint is if you ultimately don't have a desirable or in demand product. I used to own an INTEGRA and then ACURA RL. I hope they make more compelling products in the future. My longtime Acura buddy bought a LOADED VW ARTEON recently and he is so happy.
Insane level of attention to details and the amount of efforts put into minimising margin of error (e.g. variance in thickness) is hard to believe. The NSX deserves its name in every aspect. Thank you for sharing this video, I know which onr I'll take when my numbers come up.
I was a production painter for over 10 years before that an industral painter. This brings back a lot of memories
That was a exceptional overview Presentation of the different grades of paint and the main reason why motor companies charge extra for premium paint jobs and the process of what companies have to do to getting an outstanding paint finish. Many thanks, one of the best I have seen in a long time
I've seen that Valencia Red in person and it's soooooo vivid !! It's like Mazda's Soul Red taken up 12 notches !! This vid isn't doing it justice !
It's a very similar process. Soul Red is also base, tinted clear and clear. The difference is this NSX colour is getting a thicker layer of the tinted clear and an additional layer of clear. That adds a lot of depth.
I just purchased a TLX PMC Edition and the paint is absolutely beautiful!
I know the first generation NSX it was considered an honor to work on the car.
You had to have 10 years of experience as well as a flawless record with Honda to just work on it in any category. I see they still hold it to the same standards.
Fantastic video, I truly couldn't pull my eyes away. Great job, thank you!
Amazing look into the process. As someone who had been in the collision repair industry for 20+ years, as well as custom painting facilities, it is amazing to see the process and detail that they take to produce what is definitely a "Show car" finish. Thanks for the video!
I could stare at the NSX all day long. I think it's one of the most beautiful cars on the road right now. I hope they don't put that diamond grill design on a future version of the NSX. It's suitable for the luxury cars, but not for a super sharp and aggressive supercar.
I was scrolling thru my recommended and saw this. I just had to see this because the Acura nsx is my absolute dream car.
This is outstanding content and top notch quality. I hope your channel blows up because content this good is non existent in the detailing world.
Enjoyed this video. I work at Acura and we see these cars all day long. I did some paint matching on Valencia red pearl and the process we have to follow is the same.
Holy crap! I just realized that with the tinted clear stage, this means that paint matches are way harder. The thickness of the tinted clear determines just how dark that panel comes out. With all other paints, you can lay on the same basecoat 1000 times but the color won't change (after 100% coverage). Then you lay on an untinted clear and you're pretty much good. Wow.
Interesting. A friend who’s a profession detailer worked on a blue NSX. He said it had the softest paint he’s ever worked with and was difficult to manage. Even microfibre after polishing was leaving marks.
looks like the white equality overalls went out the window in the paint shop, very interesting, would like to see how a repair shop would match/blend the paint...
ohhh mann... the amount of deadication and learning attitude you show for your work is incredible.😮😮
I'm lucky enough to own one and did the 2-day plant tour. These people are beyond AMAZING!! You could eat off the floors there. The people are THE BEST, and the car..... Well - you can see for yourself. Just GOR-GEE-US!!
Thanks for this. I wish the "premium" would become the norm for all car paint jobs. A boy can dream
It is very difficult to see this in Video but in person that paint option is unreal. The car stands out and looks amazing. $6k option that is well worth it. This video was awesome in explaining it... thank you 👌🏼
The paint on my Berlina Black '18 NSX pictured left is amazing. This video explains why. The '17 Corvette Z06/07 I had........garbage. It was slightly better than a rattle can. '13 Gen V Viper GTS was excellent.
I was hoping for one shot in the sunlight, it really brings these colors to life.
Home boy doesn't know what he's talking about. Single stage is when the top coat has the color,whether it's lacquer,strait enamel,acrylic enamel or urethane. Don't matter if it had metallic or not,there was single stage metallic. It was not a mistake,it was the technology for the time. Two stage is base coat (solid or metallic) followed by clear coat. Tri stage is a base coat with a translucent mid coat followed by a clear coat.(pearls and candies et cetera). A ground coat is using off color base that is close to the color you intend to shoot,to save material. For instance using some left over base from another car to cover primer. A guide coat is what inexperienced painters use to put over primer when block sanding :) My guess is that "e-coat" is actually known as sealer in the industry. The last step on his chart "andaro" is basically the way we been shooting custom cars for decades. So...OMG!!! they use a whole 2 quarts more clear on that tiny car for an extra $6000! lolz,and i doubt they block sand and buff the clear.
Damn, those paints look incredible! Awesome job NSX!
GENERAL THOUGHT : If someone said to me that they spent $6,000 over standard on factory paint, I'd normally think they had more money than sense. But watching this video, and see the capital investment that Honda has made in expensive physical plant to get the high-end job done, and the attention to time-adding detail to keep the parts protected and clean, I can now appreciate more how the $6,000 relates to the improved result. I think Honda is very wise to allow this behind the scenes, and to bring in an expert who can give an expert's view on what the quality of the result is. For other things like OEM custom parts ( always expensive ), more manufacturers should invite expert influencers into their operation so that amateurs like me better see the link between the apparent high cost to the customer, and the high cost to the manufacturer in terms of capital equipment, people and R&D costs. This is a very cool video. I hope more manufacturers invite you to do the tour (eg Bentley or Rolls to see the highest quality factory outputs )
Da hell? Is it just me or is there orange peel on the quarter panel by the rear windshield? Look at the lights reflection there @1:56. I know ive seen smoother finishes
100% I've been looking to see if anyone would time stamp it because I seen it too
Wow this is really special. I love seeing factory tours and have been on a few myself but getting Larry's perspective on such fine details is super educational. I like the new NSX and I think just the amount of care and precision in its factory paint says a lot about Honda.
This video has me pricing NSX's now...Thanks Larry XD
Lots of used ones are a steal
It looks insanely good, but makes sense if the paint depth gauge is reading 17. Lots of paint and a very cool process thank you!
At 4:13.... I think I recogize that towel.
Gregory Veizades if you’re thinking what I’m thinking, you’re correct. 😉
Like the looks of this car & amazing quality of care to its build. Read that this car was planned to be built several years but they scrapped that idea & redesigned it again with much more technology. Good video!
This is a very good episode. Thank you for making this and uploading it.
About bloody time car companies offered this.. being a auto-paint journeyman from Europe, I've always wondered why car companies never offered a better paint finish and coverage as an option.. I'd pick this option as my first choice before ticking off any other boxes on the options list... great to see that Honda has realized and offers it as an option..
13:57 That paint is Almost OEM like Goonzquad !! Lol
I want to hang out with Keith, seems like a chill dude
Why is there so much Orange peel in the paint at 1:57?
Wow. That deep red is amazing and the andaro paint job is excellent.
Wow that is insane 🤯.
Did they tell you how much more paints was added ?. as I'm intrigued to see if the car actually weighs more as well. and if so how much more are we talking about 🤔🤔😂. I know its ramdom sorry about that 😂🤣😂
Love this channel. Production value is equal to anything on cable about cars. Plus unlike tv, no dumb irrelevant commentary, just good stuff. Keep it up man. I can tell even thru video how nice that paint is, too. The NSX is a nice car imo.
The paint on the red car (1.55 AND 15.50) was a long way from perfection - endless light ripples to my eye - NOT the reflection of the lights! Definitely NOT truly flat or mirror-like!
Agreed. The technology behind this is great, colour depth too, but for 6k the finish is very poor.
@@TheGravyMonster - the fact that you would have to pay for paint correction at about a grand to get a genuinely quality finish is appalling! It would be quite superb if they included that in the price, or perhaps even offered it at a cost option but as it was, I would feel like I'd been ripped off!
Fun fact, Mazda has a similar process in the Miata. Soul red crystal I believe. Larry, did you notice any orange peel even with the $6000 option? Looked to be a slight bit in the video.
As a detailer you shouldn't be in a Honda factory with Porsche jacket.
Just saying,,,,as a detailer.
Hahahahahahahh
This process are actually better than most sports car, super car and can compete with hyper car paint quality
That TLX is something out of this world.
I've come to enjoy every Ammo video because of information and history provided. This NSX paint is insane. Out of all the videos I see its all about shine, gloss, and coating. Although I am eager to see a fresh/new "matte" paint job detailing that you have done or will do. A factory example would be the Tesla Model 3 upgrade or the Range Rover Charcoal, some older cars like a 16 Viper too. Thanks for sharing.
WOW, huge thank Larry and everyone involved! That is really really cool and extremely informative. Paused video many times to study. Items on Detail Cart etc. $6k. Would pay that for that process without hesitation.
This might be a silly question but all that extra paint makes the car heavier therefore slower?!
Maybe 20 lbs? Probably less. No biggy.
This was great. If your someone who drives a lot, upgrade may be good. If car just goes out on sunday, ex clear is fine.
That red color is amazing. It looks like the same shade of color that's popular on the Mazda3.
What an amazing tour and walkthrough of the NSX factory.. very informational too.
AMAZING !! My Harley has a 10 stage hard candy finish. Now I understand why it's a $3,000 option. I hope it's super hardened
this is exactly the type of content i wanted to find on youtube. thank you.
Great video, Larry. I'll bet that paint looks stunning, in person. Thanks for sharing. Acura has always been a quality manufacturer, so it's no surprise they could produce quality like this.
first time i think i've ever heard of a firm figure of how much clear you can safely remove. Half a mil is approximately 12-13 microns which is plenty of safety even when wetsanding scratches out, so long as it's never been cut before.
Interesting. Enjoyed the video. I can't imagine getting one of those TLX's and having to repair it. I also found it funny with all of their care and special procedures at 11:06 this dude just walks buy carrying a front bumper cover like it's his lunch.
Bloody great video larry, well done. Ive worked on tinted clearcoats on lexus and one lexus LFA in black (brand new) but to see this at acura is awesome. 17 mills is 431 microns, that is a tonne of paint but half a mil is 12.7 so two to three applications of compound with microfibre or wool to stay within the safe limit just without effecting the uv inhibitors. Looking forward to next weeks episode.
wth this video deserves more likes and views! this dude is on a different level for reals!!!
Outstanding NSX video. So much great info and I learned a few things I did not know. Thank You for the in depth tour of PMC
Another reason this car should be more celebrated, thanks for the vid
That was an amazing tour thank you. Some people would rather spend their money on carbon fiber, I prefer the beauty and protection of a perfect paint job.
I can't believe I sat through this video from start to finish, I could care less about the new NSX. However, you made the video so interesting, from start, to finish I couldn't turn away. Thank you for that, just as a follow up could you see how average, good, and great aftermarket paint jobs compare. If possible could you include the pricing not to compare based on locale but to compare based off what Acura is charging?
Very similar paint to the Alfa Romeo Rosso Competizione. The rosso comes with a pinkish primer coat, then a base coat, then a tinted clearcoat which contains pearls..
Gonna be honest here, this is like watching Discovery Channel. Great contents!
Love these type of videos where you can see that car companies actually put some thought into the cars
Just wow. The degree of quality control and inspection for the paint on the NSX far exceeds the quality control of vital components from most other manufacturers.
And they wonder why Japanese manufacturers always seem to have the most reliable products...
This paint color is similar to Mazda’s soul red.
I’m so glad I found your channel. You provide all the answers to my ocd questions I ask myself when detailing my Audi S3. Thanks Larry!
Thank you! I have a 2017 Valencia Red Pearl NSX so this was wonderful to watch and learn from.
Great video! I worked in the Plant for a couple months before moving back to the main Plant. Love every minute. Glad you enjoyed it too!
*_Acura NSX_* is awesome! This paint job is insane!
The Andaro paint does look good on camera, but it still picks up some orange peel. Larry, you did mention that there are sanding stages but they must not sand to total flatness. I'm a little surprised for that price. By comparison, if I look at the factory finish on an Aston Martin or a good aftermarket paint job, there is no discernible orange peel left.
You should do some testing on how much clear coat is removed with the type of polishing you do. Interesting stuff.
imagine the budged and working hour if your NSX got scratched... but Look at that red color... brilliant
17 mils holy it is very thick. Very nice video thanks Larry
That is Beautiful color for the m5
Wow with million tons of Like!
I just wish I can afford sending my 911 to this paint shop, and have redone with the metallic GT Silver, then detailed inside out by you Larry. Thanks a million....
I used to think Mazda had the most gorgeous red, but that Andaro Red is ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS.
for $6000? ill take red crystal anyday with a nice week-long vacation lol
@@dvgd999 Not speaking about cost. I'm just speaking subjectively.
Well done! I'd totally go for the Andaro. Sadley, I never saw a 2nd gen NSX on the road yet. Imagine how rare an Andaro NSX in Colorado would be!
I first thought the TLX PMC edition was overpriced until I saw this video. Now I think it's worth every penny.
Paused the video to say just how amazing this is! Thanks.
very interesting on the importance paid to the painting and finishing process. Would be interesting to see how other high end auto makers apply their paint
Bought this in need for speed yesterday now it’s in my recommended after I say I like this car
Wow, that's some crazy paint! Now imagine getting into a small accident and having to replicate/blend that for the repair.
Amazing. They should sell 1 or 2 vehicles per month with such great attention to detail.
This is no joke. RE: the TLX and MDX, I can't even imagine getting body work if you got into an accident down the road. OMG!
Andaro paint package is a candy paint job with extra clear coat. Pretty slick for an OEM option.
First of all... I hoped you had a ton of fun at the factory, second Great video! Hope you can make more videos like this.
Do other manufacturers use tinted clear? I've been seeing some really gorgeous reds on relatively low end cars lately.
Mazda's new red looks pretty amazing, I'd be interested in hearing which ones you're referring to
I do believe most manufacturers have premium paints available as an extra cost option with an extra layer. I've noticed the more depth in some premium reds and blues. Paint code RR on my car is an example.
This is my fav video you’ve ever done. I would love a nsx. I don’t get why they aren’t selling better.
Love the video. Crazy that NSX team let you in on the process. Very informational. It's awesome to see that there is so much attention going into this.
Beautiful and a NIGHTMARE for any collision repaint situations!
I want that Andaro Red NSX sooo Bad !!!
What a stunningly beautiful car !
Thanks for this amazing video Larry !
Double thumbs up Larry. Amazing and great video of process. I like how you take it apart and explain what really going on. I saw you put your hands I pocket, make sure you did not touch something. Looks like you had a lot of respect for what they were doing. S
Very very cool. I have a whole new appreciation for the NSX now. I wonder if they'd allow a US customer to opt for Honda badging if they happened to be there during that part of the process.
yes the paint is thicker in the Red because its got the tinted clear that is way thicker than base coat then it is clear coated and it is flow coated after that. they dont do that with the white cars but is there any other color that they do that with?
I have to give a big LOL as I think of all the Acuras running around with peeling clear and fading paint.
Please reupload at 4K, that paint job is amazing!
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