EVE Online - Abyss Gila gets ganked

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  • Опубликовано: 2 авг 2021
  • I got ganked and talk about what I learned from this.
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    Fit used:
    [Gila, *Hybrid T4 Firestorm]
    Drone Damage Amplifier II
    Drone Damage Amplifier II
    Drone Damage Amplifier II
    Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Booster
    10MN Afterburner II
    Republic Fleet Large Cap Battery
    Gist A-Type Thermal Shield Hardener
    Caldari Navy Large Shield Extender
    Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
    Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
    Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
    Drone Link Augmentor I
    Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
    Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
    Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
    Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
    Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
    Hammerhead II x5
    Federation Navy Hammerhead x5
    Inferno Fury Light Missile x10000
    Nanite Repair Paste x100
    Scourge Fury Light Missile x1000
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Комментарии • 182

  • @alyt12345
    @alyt12345 3 года назад +154

    You should try camp your own trace in an alt in a corvette (free).. then with your main you wait on inside the abyssal final gate. Check on your alt and if gankers are gathering, YOU aggress THEM with the corvette, wait a few seconds for CONCORD to arrive to kill your ibis, and when concord is on site, you have a nice escort. You can safely leave the trace and moonwalk home.. If they aggress you at that point, they should die instantly to the prespawned concord..

    • @darkarcanum1814
      @darkarcanum1814 3 года назад +11

      Brilliant idea

    • @stephenboulet1277
      @stephenboulet1277 3 года назад +5

      Love this idea.

    • @dkrise6738
      @dkrise6738 3 года назад +6

      Works!

    • @RadoGG
      @RadoGG 3 года назад +24

      Suicide ganking the suicide gankers LMAO. This thing has a potential to become a new meta :D

    • @guigolum
      @guigolum 2 года назад +6

      does not works this way. Only one concord spawn will appear, so only one of their coercer will die.

  • @Chuckbuckets
    @Chuckbuckets 2 года назад +41

    The attempted gank in this case was done by a single player multiboxing destroyers. He was using input broadcasting or some other form of macro to coordinate the destroyers. He has been reported, CCP has responded and the multibox accounts have been removed from the game. Hopefully, he will read this and respond so that we can all enjoy his tears!

    • @Aceyface
      @Aceyface  2 года назад +11

      Ooof RIP that guy hahhaa thanks for the info

    • @0error.389
      @0error.389 2 года назад +5

      Lol imagine being so bad at the game you input broadcast 4 gank alts. I use 9 gank alts and play legit, and still am able to fire in time when ganking.
      Edit: watched the video fully. That was not input broadcasting. If it was, you would have seen the “kill right earned” and each of the “criminals are not allowed here” appear in 1 tick. Here, it is obviously not, as it takes around 5 seconds for all ships to fire. Do you have a source on this guy being a cheater?

    • @DenisSysoyev
      @DenisSysoyev 2 года назад +4

      Thats not true, this ganker on video (Cliff) are famous russian suicider, never got removed or banned, continues to do his dirty job

    • @0error.389
      @0error.389 2 года назад +3

      @@DenisSysoyev if that was an input broadcaster, the gila would have been dead. I switch accounts far faster than he did legit, that’s pretty slow switching

    • @sayuas4293
      @sayuas4293 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@DenisSysoyev The killboard for this character finished years ago, no more ganks.

  • @KingOfLeeYT
    @KingOfLeeYT 3 года назад +16

    Oh frik! Glad you survived, I never do abyss in jita anymo’

  • @tqq3732
    @tqq3732 3 года назад +45

    haha nice bro glad to see you got those donkeys!

    • @Aceyface
      @Aceyface  3 года назад +2

      😂😂😂😂

  • @YntZoidberg
    @YntZoidberg 3 года назад +12

    Saw you in Jakanerva not too long ago! Love your content. Keep being awesome!

    • @cliff_44
      @cliff_44 3 года назад +3

      thx for intel

  • @hazenkorakagaming
    @hazenkorakagaming 3 года назад +9

    Well done Sir for showing these gankers a fightback. As it should be. There are counter ganking ways also, camp them, bump them from their camping position and so on. The best strategy is intelligence and also to not run abyssal sites in highly populated areas such as Jita or the surrounding areas. What a bunch of scrubs they are.

  • @anthonykent00
    @anthonykent00 3 года назад +3

    I was hoping you'd show the killmarks. And you did! Nice!

  • @floweredpowered2631
    @floweredpowered2631 3 года назад +18

    Revenge! Haha
    4th room of the abyss ;p

  • @lordazlan237
    @lordazlan237 2 года назад +10

    Somehow Aceface has been able to make Eve content interesting, informative and funny. I have even run some Abyssal missions with his guidance. Simply brilliant and recommended.

  • @benstacy1942
    @benstacy1942 3 года назад +2

    "Novus Ordo" and "Stalkers" love the HS abyssal ship ganking. Check the Zkill and DotLan, great resources. Firestorm hybrid fit is something ive thought a lot about and it's great to see one in action-- in and out of the abyss. Props Ace. Keep it up.

  • @themacker894
    @themacker894 3 года назад +2

    Aceface. Love the videos. They really help. When gankers scan your site down with combat probes, does it tell them what level it is? T1, T2, T3, T4, T5? Curious about that. Thanks!

    • @nikolayageenko
      @nikolayageenko 3 года назад +1

      If they warp to the trace they can tell if it's a low tier or high tier by the color of it
      But I don't remember where the distinction is its 1-2/3-6 or 1-3/4-6 maybe

    • @themacker894
      @themacker894 3 года назад

      @@nikolayageenko Thank you. Very helpful! I was wondering about this and I figured there had to be a way to tell what level the Abyssal site was.

  • @grantstroud7548
    @grantstroud7548 3 года назад +3

    Is it possible to use a drag bubble on warp-ins inside an Abyssal?
    ~ just a legit question here ..

    • @Aceyface
      @Aceyface  3 года назад

      i dont see why not (in null)

  • @dirk480
    @dirk480 3 года назад +12

    I will also add that most of the time, gankers want to be isk efficient but I think with content being scarce they are willing even to take a loss just for the tears

  • @kevinwong3811
    @kevinwong3811 3 года назад +1

    Same things happen to me in Sobaseki yesterday! now I'm revert back to t1 worm

  • @NOVAxSHADE
    @NOVAxSHADE 2 года назад

    So what does this invulnerable timer mean when you leave them do?

  • @eridon63
    @eridon63 3 года назад +1

    really curious about the Manticore and his fit in the background :p
    is it for testing abyssal in a other way ?? x)

    • @Aceyface
      @Aceyface  3 года назад +3

      maybe ;)

    • @eridon63
      @eridon63 3 года назад

      @@Aceyface stop teasing !!! gaaaaaaarrrgh !! gib fit plz !! x)

    • @darkarcanum1814
      @darkarcanum1814 3 года назад

      Teasing us i hope! C'mon @Aceface use that Manticore

  • @JonnyBBlack
    @JonnyBBlack 3 года назад

    How do these gankers find the safespots? Combatscanning the ships and warping there once the target has went in? Or is it possible to scan for the Abyssal traces?

    • @Aceyface
      @Aceyface  3 года назад

      its possible to combat scan abyssal traces

  • @Xinevlin
    @Xinevlin 2 года назад

    Your Gila is great, but what i love is how concord instantly come when you get attacked :v

  • @varanzmaj
    @varanzmaj 2 года назад

    Complete noob question here, can I overload by just holding CTRL + Clicking a module?

  • @Jesse_Dawg
    @Jesse_Dawg 3 года назад +5

    More videos of you surviving or killing gankers please

  • @kronoscamron7412
    @kronoscamron7412 3 года назад +1

    I am starting to develop love for caldari based ships.

  • @Fabregas200788
    @Fabregas200788 Год назад

    great video, mate
    thanks for that, really helpful!

  • @Fat_Princesss
    @Fat_Princesss 2 года назад +2

    THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKIN BOUT! Slapped dem scrubs butts right off and made them run to momma. Great job Aceyfacey, super entertaining. Love your videos so much man, I watch you every day!

    • @Aceyface
      @Aceyface  2 года назад

      Hhahahah Thanks dude 😂🤣

  • @waynesmith7921
    @waynesmith7921 3 года назад

    Hey Aceface, I have a fit i use to do 4 of 10 Escalations how do i get it to you my in game name is Urkur i hope to see you use it.

  • @albertocruz9959
    @albertocruz9959 3 года назад +4

    Congrats on the kills.

  • @brendanbradley6961
    @brendanbradley6961 3 года назад

    I recognize some of them from the group that got my Gila in Ono awhile back

  • @dieterlarrssen4745
    @dieterlarrssen4745 2 года назад

    good advantage for damage assault control in the ishtar.80k ehp right on. and 200k with 1600mm armor plate.

  • @johnwaddles6718
    @johnwaddles6718 Год назад

    How do u moe like that wit one click it ain't q moving what is it

  • @edt765
    @edt765 2 года назад +4

    I literally got ganked by these guys today! HAHA They popped me but they must have learned form this and brought more guys and even a Tengu! There was more of them too. 11 of them in that fleet that got me.

  • @benjaminhunt7947
    @benjaminhunt7947 2 года назад +1

    i thought there was gonna be a fight lol. the whole video was sitting in a hanger

  • @BigIdds
    @BigIdds 3 года назад +1

    Also add Cliff Ozuwara.... he's the scanner and clean up crew
    I think killed on behalf of is the kill rights being activated

  • @user-nq9ny9bo6h
    @user-nq9ny9bo6h 3 года назад +3

    Your content is great. From Russia with love))) thx))

  • @WyMustIGo
    @WyMustIGo 3 года назад +1

    Do you always insure your ship with premium?

    • @Aceyface
      @Aceyface  3 года назад +2

      only t1 and sometimes t2 ships. faciton ships like the gila dont give anything from insurance that is of value. only really valuable in t1 and t2 ships

  • @Game-Control
    @Game-Control 3 года назад +1

    That over heat saved you

  • @receptive_xx7823
    @receptive_xx7823 3 года назад

    you use light missles on your ship?

  • @hiroki_rinn
    @hiroki_rinn 3 года назад +1

    Boi! What’joo doing anything in Jita that isn’t dock, undock, bailout and leave?! And thanks for letting me add more reds to my contacts. My contact list is over 600 red and 10 neutrals. 🤣

  • @youngkimzy1329
    @youngkimzy1329 3 года назад +2

    What level are u at Gila mastery? Love the video tooo

    • @Aceyface
      @Aceyface  3 года назад +2

      I have pretty max skills in the relevant stuff but my mastery is only level 3 or 4 because I don't have so good targeting skills and some shield compensation skills (they don't really matter). Thanks ;)

  • @szpoti
    @szpoti 2 года назад +2

    Am I right when I say that you must be completely out of your mind to do filaments in Jita?

  • @sardi8902
    @sardi8902 3 года назад

    What about spawning concord in the spot you farming at?

    • @Aceyface
      @Aceyface  3 года назад

      A good improvement ;)

    • @martintill4323
      @martintill4323 3 года назад

      @@Aceyface Not sure if it still applies but pre spawning concord use to be against the rules.

    • @A31415
      @A31415 2 года назад

      @@martintill4323 why was it against the rules? What was the justification?

  • @kronoscamron7412
    @kronoscamron7412 3 года назад +2

    I love the gila looks so cool and beastly DPS

    • @kronoscamron7412
      @kronoscamron7412 3 года назад

      I dont have enough money for it though, I am saving for it and training the skills needed, then on my list the rattle snek.

    • @Aceyface
      @Aceyface  3 года назад

      Yeah rattle and gila look really nice and perform very nice

  • @WyMustIGo
    @WyMustIGo 3 года назад +1

    What does "Cost" mean on the kill rights? Does that mean you'd get 30 mil if you kill them within 29 days?

    • @insanelyme938
      @insanelyme938 3 года назад +4

      Kill rights are something you can activate "on demand" in order to get a suspect timer on the target of the kill right.
      Mr. Aceface as the owner of the rights gets no isk if he uses them himself, but he does if others pay to use them. So the cost you see there is how much you would need to pay Ace if you wanna pew the gankers yourself.

    • @WyMustIGo
      @WyMustIGo 3 года назад +2

      @@insanelyme938 Got it. SO it's an incentive for people to gank the gankers :D

    • @WyMustIGo
      @WyMustIGo 3 года назад +2

      @@insanelyme938 I've been playing on and off since 2007, but I am terrible at pvp.

    • @insanelyme938
      @insanelyme938 3 года назад

      @@WyMustIGo Indeed, and don't worry we are all terrible at this game, no matter how long we've been playing XD
      There's always a better way to do whatever you're doing and someone who'll find out how to kill you as you do it.

    • @WyMustIGo
      @WyMustIGo 3 года назад +1

      @@insanelyme938 Yeah that is what I like about it, the threat of dying increases as you get deeper. Always need to be on your toes, this is not an easy mode MMO :)

  • @xyrus85
    @xyrus85 Год назад +1

    nicely done

  • @segheg
    @segheg 3 года назад +1

    Awesome!

  • @Amathylar
    @Amathylar 2 года назад

    Awesome! Love the deaths of gakers. 4 x Catalysts would have had a different outcome.

  • @MSA_madi
    @MSA_madi 3 года назад

    what were u watching bro?

  • @Bazukax
    @Bazukax 3 года назад

    Oh wow, well done!

  • @giacomorestivo5210
    @giacomorestivo5210 3 года назад

    I've dealt with those dudes. Not getting ganked but actually scouting their scout so I can hit a blingy loot scooper

  • @samuelslade7249
    @samuelslade7249 3 года назад +1

    you're in brave?

  • @alice20001
    @alice20001 2 года назад

    "GET REKED!"
    Slap slap slap

  • @JanHogstrom
    @JanHogstrom 3 года назад +3

    That was beautiful! gf Ace! :)

  • @robertcras8151
    @robertcras8151 Год назад

    Can you send me your fit?

  • @evyanjodie
    @evyanjodie 2 года назад +1

    Novus Ordo ally with Safety killed 25 orcas in 3 days, 1 2 and 3 April, so, i added the complete corporation and ally to the terrible standing, so i can see in local when they are in that system and prevent the gank. Be careful, they are near ice mining sites in Gallente, like tolle, ayateaux,etc they are 50-60 gankers online, nobody can survive 40 catalyst i think. for the moment im playing with a stratios.

  • @cubic416
    @cubic416 3 года назад +1

    Oof gj on the kills

  • @gingerbong
    @gingerbong 3 года назад +2

    Nice One bro

  • @Shootysmurf
    @Shootysmurf 3 года назад +2

    ADIIIIIIIIK * shakes fist *

  • @babbl4141
    @babbl4141 3 года назад

    Why do I dont see the Gila on ur Killboard?
    Edit: oh oops loool great Job xDD

  • @flyingdutchhman
    @flyingdutchhman 2 года назад +1

    Is he Streaming on Twitch?

  • @EmvyBeats
    @EmvyBeats Год назад

    I like how he was tellin them to get slapped up all the way back to the station lol I think ive been killed by that Adik guy as well, and i don't even play much..

  • @kronoscamron7412
    @kronoscamron7412 3 года назад

    As a noobie capsuleer I dont have the ISK to risk a gila , I mean if I managed to buy one gila, i will be very very careful not to lose it, and will not likely get involved in any pvp with it, I will just keep doing T1 T2 abyssal till I get enough ISK to buy another one and get enough skill points , If I happen to have 3 gilas I might use it for pvp and be abit more reckless.
    I have been saving for a gila for at least a month now, and not even close. T0 abyssals don't pay enough .

  • @Sabotronics
    @Sabotronics Год назад +1

    8:40 Wait, is that real? 😲 I didn't know about the kill marks 😅

  • @mdonig
    @mdonig 3 года назад +2

    Considering the ship you had, they were pretty stupid to try and gank you. Especially since you were in a 0.9 sec system.

  • @bellidrael7457
    @bellidrael7457 Год назад

    Lost my ship and the 400m I saved up from mining in my very first run with this fit, and even was doing a T3, not a T4. So, thanks I guess.

  • @dieterlarrssen4745
    @dieterlarrssen4745 2 года назад +1

    i have an hybrid-ishtar with a 1600mm armor plate and a single a-type repper. Only 1 drone damage-mod, but very good damage application because 2xtracking link with tracking script.60k+ehp and 200kehp with assault damage control. If you get used to this ship gankers will go nuts. i havent tried t6 so far, but t5 exotic and firestorm are very relaxed, allthough i build this ship expecially for firestorm.

    • @daver9571
      @daver9571 Год назад

      Would love to see the full fit if you still have it to hand, I can't seem to get close to 60k ehp in my 1600 plate experiments!

    • @dieterlarrssen4745
      @dieterlarrssen4745 Год назад +1

      @@daver9571 welll just buy an abyssal 1600 plate and an a-type repper. Only 1 rep. 2x trimark II, 1 explosive hardener, 2x multispectrum plating. These are the most expensive one, must deceide if you can afford a or b tape. I dont have in mind how much ehp, but 60 seems right. Use Assault DMG control only if youre worried about ganks.

    • @dieterlarrssen4745
      @dieterlarrssen4745 Год назад +1

      @@daver9571 i habend done any t6 abyss since the update. Seems to risky right now. My ship+clone are about 6 bil. Have to see how this new update works out first.

    • @dieterlarrssen4745
      @dieterlarrssen4745 Год назад +1

      @@daver9571 ah and another thign the Gila for me is much safer than the Ishter...just got bored after a while using always the same ship.

    • @daver9571
      @daver9571 Год назад

      @@dieterlarrssen4745 Thank you, that's perfect! I hadn't considered an abyssal plate, that's what I was missing. Or, I hadn't thought of abyssal modules at all! I'm just returning after like 8 years away so this is all new to me. Wow you can get some crazy HP from a well-rolled 1600mm!

  • @wedge5436
    @wedge5436 2 года назад +1

    These guys tried to kill me couple days ago. 9 of them. Actually there is one person with many windows. They coudn't kill me - passive gila worked well. He's Russian as I'm. He said he gunks all T4 and higher ships. He and his alts were in Perimeter recent days. I've chanaged my location because of him.

  • @knightzix_01
    @knightzix_01 Год назад

    getting ganked is normal depending On stuff

  • @knightzix_01
    @knightzix_01 Год назад

    SLAPPED

  • @insanelyme938
    @insanelyme938 3 года назад +1

    Love or hate the gankers, praise Bob for the content! GF

  • @nessrup
    @nessrup 3 года назад +2

    that astero is most likely the one who scaned you down and to collect the loot after the gank, seen them do this with a gnosis to scan down then the gankers warped to him

  • @dudeguy1924
    @dudeguy1924 3 года назад +1

    Savage.

  • @grimairbrush
    @grimairbrush 3 года назад

    Gilas are always the bain of any pvper

  • @Cretten
    @Cretten 3 года назад

    18.5 K plex.... Nice

  • @TheNicestPig
    @TheNicestPig 2 года назад

    You gotta either have really big balls or really cheap fits to attempt to gank a high-tiered Abyss Gila in Coercers i'd imagine.

  • @johngraboski
    @johngraboski 2 года назад

    About 4 Tornados ganked my 2.3bn gila back in 2020.

  • @swaggerolacar
    @swaggerolacar 2 года назад

    Gankers getting their ass handed over by their own target, love to see that, that gila has 3 killmarks now I guess

  • @fleablock268
    @fleablock268 3 года назад

    Running abyssals without a permit is illegal Ace. You owe Princess Aiko 300 000 000 isk. And you need to retroactively pay her for all the loot you have stolen from the trigs. The trigs are allies and clients to Her Grace

  • @craigmoran8078
    @craigmoran8078 3 года назад

    He’s had a taste of pvp he will need another fix sooon

  • @TheQuazar1961
    @TheQuazar1961 2 года назад

    join the club

  • @blackdragondragonis6140
    @blackdragondragonis6140 3 года назад

    Gankers

  • @thelazy0ne
    @thelazy0ne 2 года назад

    Excuses excuses! Why are you doing abysals in Jita!?... 🤦‍♂️

  • @themacker894
    @themacker894 3 года назад

    Also, when you exit from Abyssal space is your ships cloaked for 30 seconds like when you go through a gate? I got the feeling they were not able to target you until you started moving. Thanks!

    • @hyperion967
      @hyperion967 3 года назад +1

      No, you are not cloaked at all when exiting the abyssal site

    • @themacker894
      @themacker894 3 года назад

      @@hyperion967 Wow. Thanks. I'm trying to figure out why no one targeted him until he started moving. Maybe it was just a coincidence?

    • @StarLiteNL
      @StarLiteNL 3 года назад +1

      Not cloaked, but you are invulnerable for 60 seconds until you move.
      So if you are gankers on your trace grid, dont panic. You have a full minute to mentally prepare for the situation.

    • @dunovancarr4879
      @dunovancarr4879 2 года назад

      @@StarLiteNL they also have a minute to get all their friends to warp in and get you however.

    • @PL-zh7cv
      @PL-zh7cv 2 года назад

      @@StarLiteNL I assume you can't just log out during those 60 sec and leave gank with nothing, right?

  • @GregTheReaper
    @GregTheReaper 3 года назад

    Doing abyssals in Jita and got ganked? Surprizepikachuface.. I'm sorry but you really were asking to be ganked, now they know you operate there and will be even more determined. I would suggest heading a few jumps away to a quieter syste,/

  • @theohornsby51
    @theohornsby51 2 года назад

    Don’t complain ab the fit. PVE fit kills bots as you can see

  • @GriffythTV
    @GriffythTV 3 года назад

    excellent! thrashed that trash!

  • @420xanatos
    @420xanatos 3 года назад

    You would of have to of been afk for that to kill you.

  • @malango255
    @malango255 Год назад

    I reported that guy. He's clearly using illegal software to control multiple characters. He ganked me once and CCP gave my ship back after i explained.

  • @RyanPoehls
    @RyanPoehls 3 года назад

    500 mill ship ain't cheap, 😂

    • @Aceyface
      @Aceyface  3 года назад

      For a t4 Gila, especially firestorm, it is

  • @foqsi_
    @foqsi_ 3 года назад

    Do you always just sit inside the building and talk in your videos?

    • @anthonykent00
      @anthonykent00 3 года назад

      Easy to find out, really. Click on the recommended videos at the end.

  • @angelseeker
    @angelseeker 3 года назад +10

    I think the penalty for ganking is not enough... There should be way more consequences to ganking in HS. I understand HS is not a safe place but for a couple of destroyers to kill a freighter or even a marauder is just not scaled well.

    • @angelseeker
      @angelseeker 3 года назад +2

      @@Aremis1986 Guess i might have struck a nerve huh... Who knew...

  • @marsfreelander5969
    @marsfreelander5969 Год назад

    always happy to see gankers dieing

  • @zman_o7
    @zman_o7 3 года назад +4

    So glad I stopped playing this grief fest of a game last year 🤣🤣🤣

    • @oscarrivera9028
      @oscarrivera9028 3 года назад +1

      and you went to a worst game called star citizen!!! yikes lmao

  • @cliff_44
    @cliff_44 3 года назад

    i remember this) we found t4 electic and we think that only 4 coercers will be enough) usualy i use 7-9 coercers

  • @ZeroWalker26
    @ZeroWalker26 3 года назад +1

    ganking is the reason I never ever ever fly anything that they deem worthy of high sec gank. I mean why should I give the fun content to do when I get nothing out of it ?
    Also Anime is the only thing that keep me sane when mining. Then one can ask why do you mine then ? Well I love to build my own stuff I use it feels more special that way.

  • @habloverdi7047
    @habloverdi7047 9 месяцев назад

    A cheater. One player playing with three ships on one computer.

  • @Pok-qq9lt
    @Pok-qq9lt 2 года назад

    "maybe its not the smartest thing to run this sites in jita"
    ... yeah ... uhm ... u know Jita is the place whre the scum comes from. so dont be there in the first place.

  • @babbl4141
    @babbl4141 3 года назад

    Why does everybody hates Gankers? Sure u dont like getting ganked but its their Jobs so respect them and move on

    • @PL-zh7cv
      @PL-zh7cv 2 года назад +2

      prob risk/reward usually being heavily on their side

    • @sayuas4293
      @sayuas4293 11 месяцев назад

      Cry more.

  • @HunterVook
    @HunterVook 3 года назад +1

    Getting ganked isn't really drama though tbh.