What is the Salvation Army?
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
- The Salvation Army is a unique Christian Denomination well known for its social work and campaigning. This video discusses what they believe and how they operate.
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
00:39 Original Purpose and History
02:08 Wesleyan/Methodist Influence
03:00 Essential Christian Doctrines
03:15 Ordinances/Sacraments
08:32 Scripture/Authorities
12:48 Creation/Evolution
13:56 Original Sin
14:24 Born Again/Salvation Experience
16:01 Mercy Seat/Penitent Form
17:07 Plan of Salvation
17:39 Social vs Spiritual Focus
20:36 Arminian/Eternal Security
21:34 Entire Sanctification
22:50 Charismatic/Spiritual Gifts/Tongues
24:29 Eschatology/End Times
25:26 LGBT Positions
32:33 Divorce and Remarriage
33:36 Abortion
34:38 Euthanasia and Assisted Suicide
35:03 Sunday Sabbath Observance
35:26 Military Style
36:33 Conscientious Objectors
37:46 Brass Bands & Worship Style
38:05 Alcohol and Drugs
38:57 Gambling
39:13 Tithing
41:11 Death Penalty
41:47 Climate Change
42:23 Nuclear Weapons
42:50 Polity/Structure
44:45 Clergy/Officers
47:36 Women in Ministry
48:47 Ecumenical Associations
49:23 Statistics
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In the mid 80's, 84-85, I was in a long term facility for children in Honolulu. It was run by the salvation army. A treatment facility to teach children how to behave. They taught me so much and I credit my success as an adult because I was interred there for those years. The place is now an alcohol/drug rehab for adults.
I would love if a counselor from the facility that I was in was to see this message and know that the success of my life is transmitted to my children and that a cycle of abuse in my family stopped with me. All because of God and the Salvation Army.
I'm honored that you took my suggestion. I appreciate your thorough approach.
I spent 25 years in the National Guard and responded to many natural catastrophes....the Salvation Army was always there giving a helping hand. When I was a kid they ran the Boys Club I attended after school, big help to my family. William Booth is a saint as far as I'm concerned.
My great grandmother, who was a devout Catholic, saw no contradiction at all between her Catholicism and her work with the Salvation Army. Good stuff :)
Whaaaaaaa? I didn't know they were a denomination! Very cool, thank you for sharing!
Excellent, in fact I am a Salvationist and your explanation has helped me show my church in a very clear and simple way. In practically 1 hour you have shared what it takes us months to learn when we begin our process to be soldiers. Blessings
As a Salvationist, I am pleased to have viewed this presentation and appreciated the accuracy of its content. Fred Veysey, The Salvation Army, Moncton Citadel, Moncton, NB
For a while I attended a SA church in Edmonton. I found out that some of the women officers did not follow Ephesians 5:22.
I don't quite understand why charity needs to be tied to religion.
@@RobespierreThePoof Christians are called to acts of charity.
@@RobespierreThePoof well it was kind of like Christians who started doing acts of charity not charity turned into Christians
@@roberteaston6413 So you believe that women are second class citizens, shame on you
Hi, I'm a Salvation Army officer. Just wanted to say wow, what a great job you did on this video! You were very thorough! I really like how in depth you went about theology and practices. Thank you so much! Really fun video to watch!
i am Salvation Army Soldiers hi brother.
Hello the sumer day camps are cool
Are you guys captains yet? I've heard the most dangerous place to be is between a SA Captain and a television camera.
I hate to do this on here, but why is the Salvation Army allowing women to preach and have authority over men? That is clearly against scripture.
@@jesuswantsrelationship333 where does the Bible specifically state this?
I have been curious about the SA. When I was a girl, my mom would allow me to attend church with various friends, seemingly no matter the denomination (we were Lutheran). But when a friend asked if I wanted to go to the SA service with her family, my mom gave an uncharacteristically vehement “NO!” I couldn’t figure out what was so wrong with the SA and this doesn’t really give me a clear answer. I had been to JW services several times as well as Presbyterian, Four Square, Catholic (parents were married in Catholic Church), and more. I think she must have had some wrong information informing her decision.
I appreciate what they do along with homeless centers! I myself was once poor and starving and was glad such places were available to provide people with food. One of the reasons why I don't get people begging for money when they have these places available.
I have a lot of time for The Salvos, as we call them in Australia. I grew up as a Seventh-day Adventist and was in their scouts equivalent, called Pathfinders. There were times when the local SDA Conference would book Salvo citadels for Pathfinder events, and we would also go door knocking for the Salvo Appeal every year.
If anyone is interested, there's an audio recording of Booth's voice available on RUclips. It was a very early audio recording when that technology was just being developed. It's very interesting to listen to it, as there's very little difference between his accent and the archaic US Northeast Cultivated accent of the early 20th century (heard in old movies).
Thats awesome
How do we search for it?
Very early in my Christian walk when I was searching for a church home the SA was one of my top choices. Thanks for the video.
This is a very helpful channel. I really appreciate all the hard work you have done to accumulate so very much information on so many groups thank you.
Am a Catholic but I have a lot of time for the salvation army they are all gems I always donate to them at Christmas.
Looks at the runtime
"Why is this video so long?"
Watches
"Well that explains it. They have a nuanced position on practically everything!"
Nuanced to the point of not actually having to think about anything 😂
I appreciate this summary of the Army. I am a 27 year officer in the United States. The Army is a wonderful organization that is facing the same pressures all churches are facing to bow to our current culture. I pray we will stay true to Scripture in our stances but at the same time show the compassion Christ showed to sinners of all kinds. Each year we get attacked from one side for being too traditional and from the other of being too progressive... I say let's be like Jesus and all will be good. I will avoid the Sacraments debate but the disagreement just in this comment section kind of illustrates William Booth's point... Christians have killed each other over these matters. Blessings.
This is absolutely THE BEST concise and accurate presentation I have ever heard about the Salvation Army. In fact, it convinced me to become a monthly donor, having read THE WAR CRY magazine for years and donating yearly. This comment comes from my
background having taught a COMPARATIVE CHRISTIAN CHURCHES IN AMERICA course for 20 years. Thanks to RH for a great job!
Johnny G. M. Rel. Ed.
Thank you for this video. It was fantastic and exactly what I was looking for.
They saved my life and many others with me
I am so impressed with what William Booth about the sacraments, and his suggestion to join another congregation for the sacraments as one believes is fit to satisfies God's desires for us. Brought a tear to my eye, hearing a humble servant 1800+ years after Christ, to essentially say "Look, we dont know about all this sacramental stuff, and if you feel led, we urge you to be a member of a church that does all that stuff for you. We are not a church or denomination, but an auxiliary force for God's love. Go in peace"
How many "Christian leaders" has the guts to say that these days?
"Tongues" mean languages... it's not some mystical gibberish.
Sounds like the UK arm of the church lost the plot.
Wow, OK... also NZ and AU.
Well, christian leaders are usually running a church or denomination so they need to have a stance on salvation
@@mercster ??????
My great-great grandparents (as well as my great grandmother) through my mothers side were part of the Salvation Army church, and I always remember my Pop speaking kind of negatively about his Salvation Army upbringing by his strict mother (though my great grandfather, her husband kind of tolerated it, from what I learnt about my great-grandfather he seemed a chill and opposite person, as he once told my great-grandmother that my Pop 'had enough punishment' after he was hit all the way back home by his mum after sneaking off to go to a carnival, and I don't know if marriage to outsiders was accepted outside the church) all I know today is their charity shops, so I am interested in this history :)
I love this content! Keep it up bro!
I was aware of the fact that the Salvation Army was a church denomination because my family had neighbors who belonged to the Salvation Army when I was a kid. They were very nice, though I didn't know them all that well and never had a theological discussion with them.
Salvation Army has also worked with Orthodox churches and Orthodox have supported their cause. There are theological differences certainly, primarily they are there to help everywhere they can
Thorough and very helpful - thank you.
great narration and research
Fantastic video! I have always wanted to learn more about the faith, practices, and beliefs of the SA worldwide which was established by my GGG Grandfather General Booth. Blessings to you!
Great research. Thnx
Excellent summary, Thank you.
I went to a little old Baptist Church and we used that "ABC's of Salvation" mnemonic too. Nice.
Very informative, thanks!
Your videos are great! I would love to see a video on Quakers/Friends and the Evangelical Friends Church. We have the same doctrinal position on the sacraments than the Salvation Army.
He has some Quaker videos.
Very helpful🙏🏼
'The Gospel with it's sleeves rolled up!'
Happy Birthday Salvation Army-July 2, 1865, London, United Kingdom amen
I loved how you were able to see their old website statements and document the changes the SA made in their moral positions. Seeing how those positions more often than not changed to mirror the modern zeitgeist said volumes about who they really answer to.
And the Catholic Church has not changed based on societal changes? Tell me if the infallible popes have changed their mind on how the universe works, how the infallible popes changed their minds on Galileo, how it's now OK to eat meat on Friday, etc.
Not to come off so anti-Catholic here but if you live in a glass house maybe you ought not throw stones.
@@markmidwest7092 I'm sorry Mark, but Papal infallibility is a dogma of the Catholic Church which states that, in virtue of the promise of Jesus to Peter, the pope when he speaks ex cathedra is preserved from the possibility of error on doctrine "initially given to the apostolic Church and handed down in Scripture and tradition". It does not mean that the pope cannot sin or otherwise err in most situations.
You may deny your pope's infallibility any way you like but your church is the church-of-what's-happening now every bit as much as the church you accuse. Your church's dogma is not eternal and unchanging. I gave you a couple examples of how it is not.
@@markmidwest7092 You simply don’t understand what papal infallibility is, and even if it’s spoon-fed to you, you’re unable to comprehend it (Matthew 7:6)
@@obbeachbum69 You can ignore my points all you want but my original argument is yours is the church of what's happening now every bit as the one you attacked. Your spirit and traditions have changed. So put that spoon somewhere the Son can't see it.
In western countries the Salvation Army is known as a social organization that works in a systematic voluntary manner such as a lobby or temporary shelter to help poor and needy people, but unlike in Asian countries, the Salvation Army is found to focus more on helping spiritual and religious life. Many Salvatioon Army churches with a number of congregations that form thriving communities and live in harmony with other religious sects. In Asia and Pacific, they have several very active social institutions such as several hospitals, educational institutions and other public social facilities in collaboration with local governments. It is true that the Salvation Army is a denominational organization that grows and develops in accordance with the conditions and ethical culture following the needs of the people in that country.
When is the quaker video?
In the body of Christ there different parts. In Protestant church salvation army is like the arms and hands of the church who help in social issues.
In terms of Roman Catholicism Salvation Army is like a religious order of Protestantism
@@matiastolmo8936 many protestants do not consider them an orthodox body.
No joke, I was pouring myself a second glass of wine right when the video hit 38:05
Haha, my second big laugh of the morning. Cheers!
Jesus turned water into wine.
Please do a video on the YMCA, please!
I am an ex-Salvationist of the Salvation Army. I’ve been through HOURS of classes leaning about the church… I wish I could have just watched this video instead
Salvation Army is truly an evangelical church.
There is a Salvation Army hall about 1/2 mile from my house
Nice
I Love The Salvation Army.
Would love to see members from the Salvation Army become more active online.
What is the World Mission Society Church Of God? Seems funky with bodyguards (Abq NM)
Not a denomination, more of a guilt because they are different in a few core issues. Mike Winger went into depth on them on his channel.
Not a Christian denomination. It is a "high demand" religion. That revolves some korean couple
Yes!!
And it’s long form!!
I still haven’t found anything on the RCC. Just wandering why not.
From this channel or in general? Cuz there is quite a lot?
@@OrthobroAustin I have now. A month ago I couldn’t find it.
Being a 4th generation Salvationist, I appreciated how the denomination is explained in this video. Being a member offers me the opportunity to introduce people to a loving God who accepts them as they are. Salvation is free for those who want it. I know the Army is a good place for me. Regarding homosexuality, I am not convinced that it is wrong. The medical profession seems to think it is a genetic or chromosome thing. When it is proved one way or another, then I know the Army will make the right decision on allowing them to become members.
No. The devil is a great lover. Love is not love. Some love is questionable.
@@jankragt7789
Salvation Army is raised by God for saving poor people.
People find joy in worship and in fellowship. I am fourth generation in serving the Lord
God bless our Srmy
Hillo salvation army church god bless all nation amen
I don't know what churches you've visited, but would you please try a Southern church called Primitive Baptist? I think you'll enjoy it.
Why not start an online pastoral ministry?
I didn't know they were a church I thought they were a Christian charity of some sort. I never gave it any thought.
Please see the magnificent poem by Vachel Lindsay : General William Booth Enters into Heaven. It’ll make you cry.
Thank you for yet another informative video. I'm a little bit surprised over all the wise stands the Salvation Army takes. Like them even more now.
Great video! Less dogma more love.
Hardest place to find i drop box. so i just give it to Goodwill
I never give to Goodwill because they pay the CEO and others too much.
You never cover Landmark Baptist, who are they?
knew that
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The early Methodists went to the Church of England for these two sacraments.
Right. I believe Booth was just following John Wesley's example in regards to where people partook of the Ordinances.
@@thestandardbarber1708 Weslyan's believe in both baptism and communion. Methodists may vary.
This sounds like the RIGHT type of church body
i am Salvation Army
All Stores Please Lower the price of all Military and Local for all Brands of Salvation Army Products and Accessories and Production Cost Now That's too much $$ The Whole World Now 🙏🙏🙏
I was a chaplain with the SA. Interestingly, the one thing I found somewhat shocking about the organization is that they hire a lot of homosexuals and people of diverse faith backgrounds . . .
Why the military ranks in church when they don't pick up arms.. ?
Where is a salvation army in the USA
14:36 Steve Bussey 😫
I am glad that you addressed this particular denomination as not many are willing to do so. The Salvation Army is famous for its humanitarian efforts and so to critique the ARMY is considered wrong. As someone who was raised a Soldier and almost went to Officer's training but for the grace of God, it worries me that not many know the full reality of this group. Their positions against (they call it non-adherence so not technically anti) the Sacraments of the Christian Church Universal are completely unfounded biblically and historically. As seen in General Booth's speech in 1883, the sacraments were put aside because they were not meant to be a church at all. It was not long after that they began calling themselves one and pushing Sunday services. As someone whose whole family is Salvationist, it pains me that there is a whole swath of individuals who are being convinced that there is no need for Baptism and no need for the Lord's Supper. Signing a contract is no Baptism. Praying over any ol' meal is no Lord's Supper.
Thank you for sharing this - as a former officer/salvationist myself, I agree!
Then what of the reference to John the Baptist saying how the spiritual baptism would be more important?
Quakers also do not practice the sacraments
Not a quaker, but that's great that you're God and get to decide who burns in hell or not. Really speaks to the grace you claim to have!
@@bigultrafunny9751 What you said makes some sense, but... Who are you talking to? The Connelly woman didn't claim to be a Quaker only said what Quakers do. I'm surprised someone didn't beat her to it, a lot of people know perfectly well that the Quakers are "aritualistic" whether or not it is popular with anyone else isn't relevant. Or are you replying to the Sweet man? That would make more sense, him sitting there saying who is or is not saved. As far as what you said at least that makes sense...
Hillo guys god bless po army salvation church pagmaliit yung mansanas anak yun pagmalake yung mansanas banal na ama yun makenig kayo sa tetser nyo paghende kayo nakekeneg sa tetser nyo papaloin kayo ng ruler sa kamay nyo pag hende kayo nakikinig sa tetser nyo amen
lots of information in there
The salvation army is basically the methodist church in work clothes.
They are not a full denomination though, as they don't offer communion. Members of the Salvation Army regularly attend our Anglican Church to take communion. They may be able to marry people though as marriage here is a civil action performed by those licensed by the government to do so. As far as I know, there's nothing to prevent any member of the SA being licensed
This was all explained in the video
@@loreleihillard5078 No, it wasn't. Sallies are dependent upon other churches to provide communion.
@@doubledee9675 3:15 - 3:45
@@doubledee9675 You don't have to have communion to be a denomination
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The army position on abortion seems a little incoherent, they correctly say that God's defence of the weak and the marginalised extends to the weakest and most marginalised, the unborn, but are still willing to permit it in cases where being pregnant only threatens the mother's health, not life? How do they square that?
Because a baby needs the mother
The Bible talks of water baptism , of adults to be baptized by immersion
Symbolism. The only question on the table is faith. Further, there are many denominations hallu with sprinkling water or drawing a cross on the recipient's forehead. Jesus never said "if you're not dunked in a river, don't bother me."
Sounds like a Catholic religious order parallel and at the service of the Church. A combination of the Franciscans and the Jesuits
I admire your efforts to discuss & explain all the differences that divide Christianity. Although difficult, people loose their interest and will stop listening after 40/60 minutes. Try to keep each Video to under 60 minutes or do Parts. Great Information to your Herculean Task. Thank you so very much & God Bless. Amen.
He kept it under 60 minutes my guy
@@lachiepentecost1875 Usually has great content. Thanks for your reply.
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Well, that settles it for me, no more giving to the Salvation Army. Thanks for the video!
Why?
@@caltheodore4201 their views on many issues do not align with what I believe. Furthermore, they're a sort of church, yet not a church and their way of raising funds is rather odd. If my church gathered money from stores for the pretext of helping the poor, yet the money was in part for the support of the church then I would think that was rather unethical. If my church gets funds from the community at large for disaster relief then I would expect zero percent of that goes to non-disaster relief items. All of this said, it is fun to put the change in their little buckets.
@@jamescook5617 okay, your entitled to your opinion
So
Yes, because your prejudiced beliefs and dogma is more important than social action to help the destitute. Jesus would have loved the SA for their direct action to help the brotherhood of humanity. Jesus was not dogmatic. Were he alive today, out of all Christian denominations, I'm certain he's be a Salvationist.
17:15 17:19
Who are Lankmark Baptists? Never hear about them!
Who do you love The Salvation Army?
Booth's words echo in the Calvary Chapel irresponsible ecumenism. Being ambiguous about whether they are a church, am ecclesiastical order. Or a loosely affiliated movement or Para church allegiance. Not institutional, but vaguely missional.
The Salvation Army walks a tight rope. You cannot please everyone.
These guy's are the real deal, not a bunch of robe wearing gid botherers.
What is the salvation Army‘s stance on the LGBTQ community?
Don't the G, B and Q mean the exact same thing?
They straddle the fence of neutrality. They'd rather be Switzerland than Biblical! They are afraid of losing $$$$$$!
*say you need to factor in the historic consensus of the Christian community to interpret the Bible
*don't practice baptism
More like they don't administer baptism
The Lords super is practiced once a year. Many officers in the salvation army have different theological backgrounds who, like many other non memebers are alingned to the salvation army mission worldwide. Because of this, many officers are more than willing to baptise anybody if they want to, just not as part of the SA.
I never knew that the Salvation Army is a church, besides being a social service organization. I am fairly new to my area, but I know there is a thrift store run by them, and it's great. Question: when you join the church, do you get a uniform to wear to church or is it optional? if I joined, I wouldn't mind wearing one..I actually think it's kind of cool! God Bless!
@@VMH2222 Yes you have the option of becoming a soldier or and adherent. If you become a soldier you get a Uniform which you only pay 25% of cost, the other part the core and the army pay. You can then purchase additional accessories, and replacement garments.
@@wbazan36201 What is an adherent?
@@wbazan36201 not in the UK they don't you have to pay for your own uniform
@@VMH2222 Someone who recognises the SA as their church but doesn't doesn't fully sign up the Salvation Army regulations
Its not that I think that the remembrance of Jesus Christ in the bread and wine is for salvation, but I question the motives of someone that doesn’t want to do something that Jesus actually told us to do in remembrance of Him. Baptism isn’t a roadblock to salvation, but an attitude of reverence toward our savior. The bible clearly says to do these things and to go against the word of God makes a person wonder if the founder even understood basic theology. Infant baptism is fruitless, as the baby cant decide to have faith in Christ.
So circumcision was too then?
@@slamdancer1720 Yes, of the heart.
But Booth also said they are free to do it, he wanted to focus on the human soul than the physical sacraments. The sacraments happen in response to your salvation same with Baptism.
Same theology as the Methodists
I would be really interested in serving the SA, purely from the charitable aspect. But to be tied up in all this muddy pseudo-theology? I don't know.
I'm an x salvationist, sorry but when my so called grandparents who were supposed to be salvationists were beating me, telling me I was useless, I was left to fend for myself, even when my front teeth were knocked out by my grandfather. They were never suspended or investigated, why because they were pub boomers and raked in nearly 500 pounds a week. Thank you salvation army for your care.....not
What has then changed the Salvation Army??? I have never met one individual promoting the Salvation Army who honestly spread the Gospel message. In fact, when the Salvation Army promotes their Christmas drive in my area, I have called them out for telling the crowd that “Christmas is all about Santa Claus for it is his day to celebrate!” Furthermore they refused to play or sing any Christian hymn or Christmas Carol but kept it strictly secular. Their Christmas drives are definitely to collect donations, and unfortunately, having no mind to tell the crowd about Jesus Christ whom they are supposed to represent and profess.
Well Christmas is not celebrated by all the protestant churches, in Chile, my country, almost all churches don't celebrate the Christmas because of Santa Claus and the pagan things in it, they question especially the date, December 25th is not accepted as the correct date so here there a minority who celebrate it
@@matiastolmo8936 First of all, dear friend, there’s nothing wrong in the annual remembrance and festive celebration of Christ’s holy birth. It is in our scripture after all, that the very Angels announced the Good News for all people of the once-and-for-allness of out Saviour’s birth! We celebrate this holiday as biblical because it was then that Christ was first proclaimed, recognized, and righteously worshipped as the Lord of all. The Word made flesh!
However, I digress....my point here is, the Salvation Army has indeed historically celebrated Christmas - but now there is a turning away from their biblical roots to fit a secular agenda and only use Christmas in order to get more donations...as it would clearly seem. Let us not forget that they still describe themselves as a (Wesleyan) Christian denomination. Yet today, it appears that any mention of Christ is denied during their annual public events, as well as a true professed Christian proclamation. Unfortunately it is fast becoming more in keeping with a secular agenda, and not at all fitting with their once historic and throughly Christian identity.
@@cherokeegypsy2617 I understand my brother, I really did know about it.
@@cherokeegypsy2617 I don’t know what area you encountered the SA and maybe different regions have different practices. However, I have done volunteer work with the SA and their community shelters and programs are very much religious oriented. Shelter participants attend regular chapel services and are held to Christian standards. What you have encountered is mainly the charity outreach and marketing side which I will admit is very neutral and secular in its approach. Overall the SA does good work and is at the top of the list of charities that I will donate to. I would not use them as a primary Christian church home however. The goal is to lift people out of bad places in life and give them a path to a successful future, in that sense most people are just transitioning through.
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NO. IF the Bible is the inspired Word of God, why do you insert man's understanding? If the Bible is a part of man's consensus, why is God's Word needed at all? Your premises are based on man's understanding. Thus, you deviate from The Bible.
At least in my area they spend quite a bit of time preaching against other churches in a rather nasty way, rather than preaching in favor of their faith. For that they get a nice, big, rumbling fart.
Hahaha, thanks for that; my first big laugh for the day! Now for a rumbling fart.....