was thinking this exact thing watching it. Most reviewers would leave the pinned comment and move on. But Russ will bring out another thorough video explaining his thoughts and demonstrating them. Love this channel.
If he could make another video, why wouldn't he? He's a content creator. Making videos generates him money. If he can make another video with no consequences, then he will lol. Him leaving a pinned comment wouldn't make him money.
Sure, there is some truth to that, @@umamifan , but it also is footage he had to shoot, edit, etc, so it's still something he put effort into, especially for a video that's not likely going to do big numbers or anything like that, he has no shortage of devices, etc, for him to make videos about so he doesn't really need to milk stuff.
I hope you watched the video talking about hot hands. I'm not trying to be a jerk, just pointing out a situation where you may be able to use the device as a hand warmer this winter. 🦨💨
One thing nobody ever seems talk about is the screen angle thing. In order to have a good viewing angle on my GPD Win 3 (which does not have a hinge) without destroying my wrists, I have to either hold my hands up in front of my face, which gets tiring on my arms after a while, or lean forward and look straight down. If I'm on a train ride, I want to rest my hands on my lap as I hold it and lean back, and that requires the screen to be angled differently than the controls. A hinge allows for that. That comfort goes a long way. As for pocketability, I live in a cold enough climate to need some kind of jacket for most of the year, and a large enough inner jacket pocket is perfect for devices that are uncomfortable to carry in a trouser pocket (maybe even with the grips in some cases). When there's not a suitable jacket pocket, a small shoulder bag is basically an additional pocket and better than a backpack for easy access if you're only carrying that one thing. And one nifty use for a thumb keyboard and trackpad is typing in notes in a music tracker. I could definitely see myself making beats in Jeskola Buzz on a Win Mini if inspiration strikes when I'm out and about, to whatever extent the soundcard can handle it. So in that sense, I could definitely see it as a potential productivity device, but that's a pretty niche form of productivity. With the 1080p screen, it might also be okay for some basic video editing, with the keyboard used for hotkeys. And I'm fairly used to thumb typing, so I could see myself writing down lyric ideas on it as well. And maybe not a whole novel or screenplay, but if you're already in the middle of one and happen to think of something that needs to be written down, it'll probably do in a pinch as a secondary device. Some people might also use it for coding.
@@LdotSdot210 I used to run Milkytracker on a Pandora (which I sadly lost; it fell out of my pocket at a movie theater and wasn't found). Milkytracker will run on just about anything, and this is a PC, with far more power and compatibilities. I can guarantee Milkytracker will run perfectly fine. OpenMPT should run fine without VST's, as well. It doesn't require much. Once you bring VST's into it, there are more variables, so I'd definitely wanna test it using different audio drivers and buffer/latency settings. How well does it run on a generic laptop without an external audio interface? I've never used renoise, but I'd imagine it too needs testing. It seems a bit more advanced than Milkytracker.
i live in a more mild part of scotland so you’re either wearing a jacket or have a thin raincoat on you and i can easily see myself chucking it in a jacket/hoodie pocket. i think the biggest hit to its portability for me at least is the actual price. if anything happens to it while i’m out that’s a lot of money gone 😅
@@tioraidh-tux Yeah, that was the tragedy of my Pandora. Had it in my pocket (not inner pocket) in a movie theater and it must've fallen out in there or on the way home, and that wasn't quite expensive as the Win Mini, but definitely wasn't cheap, so that was a lot of money lost. Definitely being a lot more careful about checking my pockets when I'm carrying this thing around. And being careful not to bump into anything.
Thank you for taking the time for a follow-up video in clearing up on the device's pocket ability experiece comparing it to other devices as well other lingering questions from the initial review. Lastly, thank you for showcasing if there any space for caps when closed it was one of the lingering question I have after the review.
Really appreciate this update video, clarifications and the in depth info from this and the first one. That demo of thumb typing was quite useful as well - i find the GPD MicroPC quite comfy for thumb typing, but that extra inch of size seems to make it more of a stretch. In the end most of these devices are a compromise in some way, and as you said it’s great we even get that choice. For me, the hope is it’s a device that is more portable and powerful than the Switch, while also being a full PC for all the flexibility - productivity and gaming.
Thanks for doing this follow up! I went ahead and ordered one for myself - I was a huge fan of the Win 2, and also like my current Win Max 2, but wanted something a bit smaller. (Obviously we have somewhat different preferences, but I appreciate your perspective.) The Win Mini isn't exactly what was hoping for - I wanted something a touch smaller than the Win 2, and I think I'm going to miss the USB-A port. But on the whole, this is a lot closer to what I want than anything else out there, and I hope GPD sees enough interest in this one to do another update in a year or three.
i would love to see more comparisons between the win 4 and mini. would love to see them running side by side to see the differences in performance due to cooling, and also the differences in comfortability due to screen size
Great follow-up. While this device isn’t for me, I always learn a little something and expand my perspective around these (and other) devices by watching. Thank you, as always!
Hey Russ awesome follow-up! So glad you actually just happened to have those thumb caps on hand 👍. Wow! Most reviews just show a video and then never come back for a round 2 follow up. So glad you did. Except the Phawx I probably have seen a part 2 ever. Even Taki Udon hasn't show a round 2. The only question I have to ask again which was left out of both videos was how loud is the fan noise? I give up on the battery life estimate summarys as I get it's all subjective. Thanks again for a stellar follow-up video. It's was totally worth getting feedback from your viewers.
Thank you for making a follow up video! Indeed the first review felt lacking and this follow up really does shed more light on the device. Something to remember is that with a more unique handheld like this it's best to spend more time in the review covering it as it's a different approach to the handheld market compared to the familiar designs we typically see and expect. So highlighting what makes it different from the sea of devices and the ideal use cases is what people that are interested are looking for.
Their mistake was to make a TKL keyboard. A 60% layout would be fully usable and the keys would be much larger and easier to type with. I use one as my daily board for PC (gaming & work) and although it does take a while to get used to once you are there there's no going back. (atleast that's my opinion)
Keyboard (Key) Size is pretty much the only thing keeping me from going with the Mini. I would still like the option to use a mouse and keyboard for gaming (even if it does have a built in gamepad), but the keys being this small seems prohibitive to that end. And I haven't seen anybody even attempting to use the keyboard for touch typing or keyboard gaming on reviews or anything.
@armyofninjas9055 that didn't make sense. A 60% keyboard still gives you all functionality while increasing the key sizing in this case. You just got ro get used to one. It's fairly "complicated" at first for someone who never used one before but you get used to it fast.
Thank you thank you thank you for covering the short analog sticks topic! This and the fan noise are the only two reasons I didn’t use my GPD Win 2 clamshell as much as I wanted to over the years. I thought the Win Mini would be the *one*, but since you showed this detail, I realize they just can’t fix this in such a small space. I know now I’m the type of person who needs full analog stick controls to enjoy mobile gaming. I’ll be canceling my Win Mini order now.
@@derosam69I’ve used nubby analog sticks before in the GPD Win 2 previous console and the fan also was always loud. It made games less fun to play. I got the Legion Go and it’s everything I wanted in a portable gaming PC. The fact it plays like a switch is golden. Thx for asking.
I'm not in the market for a handheld or any other products you review, I just like your style of deep dive from an actual human perspective. All other tech RUclipsrs are slaves to their sponsor, and they'll swear that you will love your crappy new raycon earbuds with terrible sound and you'll also love Raid:Shadow Legends for it's wondeful micro transactions. F.A.K.E as a hippogriff.
I’m getting sooo mixed up. I really want one, but I have no idea if it’s an upgrade over the 6800u device I had previously. Would you know how it compares in terms of FPS or benchmarking at the max 18W TDP, vs the 6800u’s 28W?
Is there a GPD handheld PC like this but entirely for productivity? I've no interest in this product for gaming but I wonder if you could make the keyboard bigger and fit in a touch pad. That's something I'd like to own.
This unlike the ally or steam deck replaces a tablet. It can do anything multimedia related like a tablet and have a large enough screen to make it an enjoyable experience. You get a full trackpad and keyboard to navigate windows. Unlike the Win 4 the keyboard is useable. The win 4 you need to move your hands into an awkward position. This device is even lighter then the ally and much lighter then the deck. It gives you the same 7" screen you get on those. You can type an email or a message to a friend or in an MMO just fine on these keyboards. These keyboards where used to type everything via text or email 15-20 years ago on cell phones. The issue that needs addressing on the mini is the heat and we will know if that got fixed in a few weeks. Supposedly it did up to 25w, but we need actual verification before believing gpd. As for portability, this fits into any sling bag, small pocket in a backpack, or purse. If you take your deck with you anywhere in that insane case it is less portable then a laptop because of its awkward shape. My deck takes up a lot of valuable space in my backpack every week when I have to pack for 2-3 days. The same will be true of the legion. Also the gpd can be stored in any hoodie or jacket pocket.
100% people like me dock these to monitors and have keyboards and controllers for them .... im just a fan of small powerful devices. They still can be on the go and docked for anywhere u have to go instead of just playing a switch or a ds.
would the GPD Win 2 meet your pocketability threshold? that was the threshold for me and I would love to get something like that soon again...fyi the Win 2 is a different device than the Win Max 2... you seem to confuse them in the review
I’m really happy with my Win 4 (6800U), I’ll pass on the Win Mini, especially since I adopted a newer Win Max 2 2023 (7840U) as a desktop replacement using the GPD G1 while docked. I’ll wait (probably) for a couple of years until the next refresh with the 9000 series (the AMD 8000 series does not look like much of an upgrade). Looking forward to similar or better performance with much better battery performance in 2025!
Honestly I just wished someone would review the 7640u model, just to see how well does it go up against the 7840u, and to see how well it is in regards to its price. Mainly because I can probably afford the 7640u than the 7840u, and I would love to have something that small to bring with me not just for gaming but also for work (I mainly work from home but I do go out even alot even during my work hours, like at a mall or something) since I Mainly do graphic design and video editing, I won't do a lot of typing but obviously some keyboard shortcuts involving 2 or more keys will be waaaaay harder, but single key shortcuts will be fine
I might be wrong, but it feels to me the 7640U is a step further to Steam Deck levels of gaming performance, with both having 8 CUs on the GPU (tho it's RDNA2 on the Deck vs RDNA3) and 6c/12t on the CPU on a more efficient and powerful node vs 4/8 Zen 2 cores. But CPU usually isn't a big problem for gaming (hell, to this day people play games nicely on 4/8 PCs). GPU is. The 6800U is great because it has 12 CUs, but with limited power, the CPU (8/16) and GPU sides keep fighting for power, thus making it not too good for low wattage. The 7840U deals much better with power constraints (and some people park 2 or even 4 cores on the BIOS to distribute more power to the GPU) but has the advantage of a higher performance ceiling if you give it more power, which is what quite some people want, that hour of powerful, hi-res gaming, even if it drains all the battery. It's not my case, I probably wouldn't go past 18w, maybe even 15w, depending on the game. So, in my limited view, if you prefer less power consumption for a decent enough performance, I see no issue with the 7640U. If you're not afraid of lower res or using some FSR, and locked 30fps (maybe 40), for heavier AAA titles. If you want a Deck+ of sorts. As I said, I might be wrong... but I might be right. Look for some 7640U gaming reviews on YT and Reddit.
You should do a video that is a gauntlet of handheld PCs analog sticks. I feel like that is the most important feature for these handhelds to get right for some people. Great video also, love the meticulous attention to detail with your videos.
I lost everything in a house fire.. some people got so many system's, some probably just collect dust. I cant even afford an old DS, or food to last 2 weeks. I absolutely love retro gaming, and gaming in general. But Even the cheapest system is too expensive after the fire .itd take me literally decades to get one of these. Im in my 20's and i lost eveything from the house fire., I wish i could game again, my luck is too bad to win any giveaways. But Thank you, your videos cheer me up, and keep me strong, one day soon i too will be able to play some games that i love! Its been almost a year. Im lucky to at least be able to watch these videos, as they're keeping me motivated to get back to where i was...thank you for helping me through these tough times. Im not able to eat some days, but you help me take my mind off those issues. Keep up the good work! :)
I had a brick phone growing up, and honestly i miss having a physical keyboard to type with, they should make a smart phone with a physical keyboard, i think that'd be pretty cool
For nearly years I used to run smartphones with keyboards! Look up the Sony Ericsson P1i for my favourite one :) QW are on a U shaped key, tap the left side for Q, right side for W!
The fact that they put ROG ally’s performance and 120hz screen in a clamshell making it smaller to carry while also making it SIGNIFICANTLY LIGHTER compared to those other competitors like deck and legion is like just wonderful ! this is what i have been looking for ! I was thinking of getting ayaneo air1 but I don’t like putting them on pocket or anywhere without a case or cover since i really take a good care of those fragile little joysticks on my devices and CLAMSHELL IS THE ONLY RIGHT ANSWER to this problem therefore I don’t mind recessed joysticks I’ll just get used to it because it’s not the end of the world if we compare other good things about this device. I hope it would not be worse than using nentendo switch joysticks I really hate nentendo switch ones personally But again we can just use bluetooth controller so its like a compact mini gaming laptop which is just brilliant !
Is there a cap cover that i can buy to "hide" dpad and the console buttons? Can't show that at work. Also can I use those for windows experience? Like analog stick for mouse movement and A and B for left and right mouse click?
I’m not sure you care anymore but there is now, it’s magnetic and purchasable on Amazon. You do need to adhere the magnets to make it removable but it’s not that bad.
For me the main purpose is cross platform game development and my development tools. It’s huge to have blender, maya, unreal, unity, substance designer and all the other tools with you at all times. Bringing the entire laptops means having to sit down etc versus wiping this thing out of your pocket which also make the entire experience feel more like I am a kid with my Gameboy again wiping it out the pocket to play Pokémon. It’s a very different experience to use a handheld as your main device.
I'm very used to thumb typing. I had a Palm Treo, a Blackberry, and a couple other phones with physical keyboards. The problem with the GPD devices (I have a Win4) is that they're too big for thumb typing. Unless you have MASSIVE hands, it's nearly impossible to reach the middle letters like T, Y, G, H, etc. But, they're also too small for normal typing. They really sit in this weird spot where your best bet is to set it down on a table and peck at it with index fingers.
Lol in the world of smart phones ....most people should be used to thumb typing ...a switch doesnt even have a keyboard. Even using your phone in landsxape mode requires thumb typing
The only handheld I carry around is my "New" 3DS XL, and it's perfect in my cargo pockets (or hoodie). The main reason I'm even looking at this one is that I'm hoping to be able to do the same. I might need to find a 3D print, or block of wood, so I can try it out before dropping $1K. If it fits, I don't mind the bulk- for some reason I actually like feeling knowing that my 3DS is where I put it, while at the same time I'm constantly nervously checking my phone in my other pocket isn't slipping out, for the millionth time, and I have a big phone in a big case.
thank you very much for your video! Is it possible for you to make a comparison video with the Legion go vs GPD mini and Win Max 2 please? I find the 3 consoles very interesting...
I just had my win 4 stolen. Ive been wondering what to do about it. I love my steam deck, but it really doesnt work as a desktop replacement for me. It's fine for daily browsing and such, but I need windows for work and Im not bothering with dual booting on my deck. The win 4 was perfect as an all in one device. But after being stolen I really dont know what to pick next. Another win 4 but the 7840u this time? Or this win mini. It doesnt have the same style as my win 4, and It looks less pocketable. I frequently carried my win 4 in my back pocket. But the screen is larger, it has more ram, more screen refresh rate options, and a newer processor and arguably a better thumb keyboard. I use em daily to play games, but also as a docked multi-screen desktop. I used 3 monitors with my win 4 daily for instance.
@@Chesemiser its not the same being these are physical buttons on a much bigger device, so he might have not connected that is the proper way to type on these keyboards. Tough to not figure it out i think, but at the same time how much time is actually spent on each device doing various things when he has so many and editing takes so long? Im sure he concentrated on the gaming aspect the most with his time.
I’m interested to know if you could use the keys in pc games like Baldurs Gate where the player experience is designed more for keyboard than controller.
I'm rocking a Win2 with a 2Tb ssd + 1tb SD card and it is the literal max I consider pocket friendly. I have literally every game I love from the 90s to 360/Ps3 era including indie games. But the real magic is taking it out of my pocket when waiting or whenever I find myself with unexpected downtime. If I wanted something clamshell I put in my backpack (assuming I have it) I'd take my laptop lol.
merci beaucoup pour votre vidéo ! il est possible pour vous de faire une vidéo comparatif avec la Legion go vs GPD mini et Win Max 2 svp ? je trouve les 3 consoles très intéressent...
@@josephcuncarr9246 right though I am wondering which come closest I had aya neo and win 3 and win was pocketable in my book but too thick so with less thickness we got it.
even 3ds xl not so good pocketable,original 3ds is real pocket system. On windows,nahh there is none,still mini gonna take not much space in a shoulder bag or backpack.For example,deck with its case...taking huuuge amount of space.
When you review the Ayaneo Kun please talk about the feel of the analog sticks. I also play Destiny 2 and I didn't like how they felt on the Rog ally, felt hard to do precise movement vs what a Xbox controllers analog sticks felt like.
As someone who as been almost exclusively using me Asus ROG ALLY for Final fantasy XIV, aka an mmo, using the touch screen on the ally lowkey blows when I need to type in party chat XD. They pspgo win model looks dope, and I totally do not need another handheld pc....
Some quality of life ideas for this clamshell form factor: 1. Keyboard keys can be made much larger by just having the number and functions via shift/fn keys. Don't need to replicate a full keyboard physical layout, just the basic letters and numbers for gaming. 2. Wider and deeper alcove for the sticks - This would allow for "taller" sticks and a wider range of movement while still allowing the device to close flush and protect the screen. 3. Is the trackpad actually essential and often used? Could space be saved by eliminating the track pad and making the right thumbstick better callibrated to act like the mouse? Navigation out of games could be helped with just the use of a good calibrated right thumbstick mouse mode, touch screen and a front end. Windows is still terrible as a touchscreen OS.
Microsoft made a bad OS which was on the right direction for touchscreen - Windows 8. They had Windows Phone/Mobile to learn some more. Now on Win 11 it feels they just threw it all out the window.
@@RomanBellicTaxi Microsoft doesn't know what it's doing. They had so many ventures and side things that have failed, that I think it's the leadership at the highest end and the whims of its shareholders that are the cause of it. The only two consumer entertainment products that I can think of that has been successful for Microsoft is the Xbox and Surface. and both are beginning to die. Xbox is dying because MS are focused on trying to sell game pass subscription services and Surface Duo is very much dead in the water because they can't make a touchscreen OS. Windows phones and Windows 8 had potential, but it had image problems and Microsoft didn't know where to go with it. Surface Neo wasn't going anywhere because Windows was never going to be ready for tablets/phones, let alone a more sophisticated device like the Surface Neo. Microsoft shows very little commitment and follow through. And many of the leaders of those ventures have or are departing.
No please no joystick mouse. There are so many times you need a mouse AND the game pad persistently connected. Whether it’s due to software funkiness where the controller won’t be re-detected, or that it turns into player 2, or exits full screen, or you don’t have time to wait for the software to switch modes. Joysticks also suck for accuracy, no way would this be acceptable. And no, the touchscreen isn’t a good alternative. It doesn’t even function as a proper mouse at all times in windows. If you want a device that does this, go get literally any other brand than GPD and leave us alone.
I think for the size the GPD Win Max 2 is the better choice. I have the original GPD Win Max which I think is still a good device, but the keyboard layout is abnoying, which was why they made it bigger. I'll be interested in the Max 3 if they make it.
Looks nice, but at the same time seems uncomfortable to hold and type. I agree i probably would not use this for anything but just gaming. I do like the fact that you have the option to use it for other things.
@@BahhBahhBrownSheep 😂 “you have no clue”, I never claimed to owning it, but that’s why we watch these videos to get a better idea whether this suits me or not, and you can have discussions about it here. If you love this device, hey enjoy it, good it meets your needs. “You have no clue” 😂 it’s going to be ok 😂
The best feeling handheld for pc gaming it hands down the steamdeck. It felt the best out of all of them, way better feeling than the gpd win 4. But i use it with my xreal AR glasses and the steamdeck wasnt fully compatible with the glasses.
Actually I never see people carrying anything other devices besides their phones in their pockets and people actually playing games on the go is also very rare. Maybe children showing some mobile games to their friends but even then they aren't playing the seriously. I guess most people just put them in their bags anyway and play them once they have reached their destination like inside their hotel rooms before going to sleep. So in the end, pocketability might be more of the theoretical thing than and actual practical one. Too bad GPD devices can't be tried out in store like you can with the Ally or maybe even the SD. Would love to try out the Win Mini and Max, to see if they might be even better than the Win 4 for my use cases, because they are also offering physical keyboards (for DOS or Amiga emulation, especially RPGs). PS: I wouldn't want to play a shooters with analogue sticks at all. Nothing beats mouse and keyboard for first and and even certain third person games. Playing Skyrim with a controller felt horrible.
Removable joysticks would be awesome. I also thought they could do some sort of mechanism where you could push and raise the joysticks up when it’s open and put them back down when closing it. I would have kept my win max 2 if it had better joysticks. They ended up being a deal breaker for me.
There are pros and cons to each but both are a bit uncertain about the final form. They are rushing for a Nov shipping date. The Go has a Z1E with a 8.8" 144hz native landscape display which is nearly 9" big at 1600p vs the 7" portrait 120Hz Mini at 1080p. The Go has a bigger Li-Po battery 49Whr battery vs the 44Whr on the Mini. The Z1E will be more power efficient than the 7840u on the mini. Also the Go runs faster ram at 750oMT because of the LPDDR5X vs LPDDR5 6400MT found on the Mini but the Mini can have 16, 32GB or 64GB options where as the Go is stuck at 16GB. This seems limited with newer games coming out down the road the higher resolution of the Go's screen uses more vram but if you plan to play at only 800p you can make it work. You get a free carrying case with the Go but this thing is big. The joycons are super thick. The base unit has a tiltable kickstand. There are more features with the Go like FPS mode with using a joycon as a mouse which is neat but could be gimmicky. One cool thing is that these joycons can be paired with ios / android/ or another pc. I have a feeling the Go will be better ventilated to get more performance out of it on a single fan. Probably quieter too at higher TDP than Mini. You can also quick charge it back to 70% in under 30min. Just know this thing is big and chunky and the weight might be a limiting factor. It's a great value at the $750 price point coming with a 1TB fast ssd. The Mini has 2 type-c usb ports with a dedicated Oculink port! You can plug an EGPU in it. The Go has 2 USB type-c 4.o ports that may not support an egpu officially but usually you can do it over USB 4.o. The bandwidth of usb 4 is substantial slower than Oculink so the external GPU option will be worse off performance wise but functional. The Go weighs close 1.85lbs with joycons and the Mini is a hair above a 1lb. That's it in a nutshell.
@@tomoprime217 wow that was very comprehensive thank you very much! I think I'll just purchase the go based on what you said. Seems to be a better fit for me
I feel like I am the only one that use these wrong and just for thier size alone . My win max stays on my bed with a wired controller . And my win 3 stays docked to a 32 in gaming monitor with a Bluetooth controller .even if i had to stay at a hotel or a friends house they have hdmi cords ... still better than trying to carry around a full blown tower
If this were released before the Ally I would have considered it. Too late, poor customer support and ho-hum controls makes it a no go. Rather disappointing, as this is what I was waiting for after the Win 2.
I'm not completely sold, maybe it's the 2242 SSD or that the heat issue has not yet been addressed, yes, plans to solve it are underway. I'll just wait for the final copy of it before I consider buying as I've read about the horrible customer service experience people have had from GPD.
If only it had Steam OS and Steam support... I really like the design, but I don't like to deal with windows in a small screen nor do I like the terrible sleep function of windows.
You didn't have to make this video, but the fact that you did shows what a top-notch reviewer you are.
was thinking this exact thing watching it.
Most reviewers would leave the pinned comment and move on. But Russ will bring out another thorough video explaining his thoughts and demonstrating them.
Love this channel.
If he could make another video, why wouldn't he? He's a content creator. Making videos generates him money. If he can make another video with no consequences, then he will lol. Him leaving a pinned comment wouldn't make him money.
Sure, there is some truth to that, @@umamifan , but it also is footage he had to shoot, edit, etc, so it's still something he put effort into, especially for a video that's not likely going to do big numbers or anything like that, he has no shortage of devices, etc, for him to make videos about so he doesn't really need to milk stuff.
This is the device I've been waiting years for. Owned the Wins 1-4 and this combines the best of all of them, can't wait for mine to show up.
Me too, ive only owned the win 3 and winmax 2 but am selling the wm2 once my mini arrives.. cant wait
I hope you watched the video talking about hot hands.
I'm not trying to be a jerk, just pointing out a situation where you may be able to use the device as a hand warmer this winter. 🦨💨
@extracurricularkitty3605 meh.. winter is coming.. aannd they are fixing it with different shell materials so I wouldn't worry too much
But, damn, why can't they be easier to purchase?! Just give me an Amazon store front.
@ITX-EcoClass It's not out yet, I think they ship late November, the good news is that the Indiegogo is still up and you can get early bird prices.
One thing nobody ever seems talk about is the screen angle thing.
In order to have a good viewing angle on my GPD Win 3 (which does not have a hinge) without destroying my wrists, I have to either hold my hands up in front of my face, which gets tiring on my arms after a while, or lean forward and look straight down. If I'm on a train ride, I want to rest my hands on my lap as I hold it and lean back, and that requires the screen to be angled differently than the controls. A hinge allows for that. That comfort goes a long way.
As for pocketability, I live in a cold enough climate to need some kind of jacket for most of the year, and a large enough inner jacket pocket is perfect for devices that are uncomfortable to carry in a trouser pocket (maybe even with the grips in some cases). When there's not a suitable jacket pocket, a small shoulder bag is basically an additional pocket and better than a backpack for easy access if you're only carrying that one thing.
And one nifty use for a thumb keyboard and trackpad is typing in notes in a music tracker. I could definitely see myself making beats in Jeskola Buzz on a Win Mini if inspiration strikes when I'm out and about, to whatever extent the soundcard can handle it. So in that sense, I could definitely see it as a potential productivity device, but that's a pretty niche form of productivity. With the 1080p screen, it might also be okay for some basic video editing, with the keyboard used for hotkeys. And I'm fairly used to thumb typing, so I could see myself writing down lyric ideas on it as well. And maybe not a whole novel or screenplay, but if you're already in the middle of one and happen to think of something that needs to be written down, it'll probably do in a pinch as a secondary device. Some people might also use it for coding.
it would be awesome if it could run milkytracker, openmpt, or renoise.
@@LdotSdot210 I used to run Milkytracker on a Pandora (which I sadly lost; it fell out of my pocket at a movie theater and wasn't found). Milkytracker will run on just about anything, and this is a PC, with far more power and compatibilities. I can guarantee Milkytracker will run perfectly fine.
OpenMPT should run fine without VST's, as well. It doesn't require much. Once you bring VST's into it, there are more variables, so I'd definitely wanna test it using different audio drivers and buffer/latency settings. How well does it run on a generic laptop without an external audio interface?
I've never used renoise, but I'd imagine it too needs testing. It seems a bit more advanced than Milkytracker.
i live in a more mild part of scotland so you’re either wearing a jacket or have a thin raincoat on you and i can easily see myself chucking it in a jacket/hoodie pocket. i think the biggest hit to its portability for me at least is the actual price. if anything happens to it while i’m out that’s a lot of money gone 😅
@@tioraidh-tux Yeah, that was the tragedy of my Pandora. Had it in my pocket (not inner pocket) in a movie theater and it must've fallen out in there or on the way home, and that wasn't quite expensive as the Win Mini, but definitely wasn't cheap, so that was a lot of money lost. Definitely being a lot more careful about checking my pockets when I'm carrying this thing around. And being careful not to bump into anything.
@@Swenglish aw bless. hope it never happens again mate
Thank you for taking the time for a follow-up video in clearing up on the device's pocket ability experiece comparing it to other devices as well other lingering questions from the initial review.
Lastly, thank you for showcasing if there any space for caps when closed it was one of the lingering question I have after the review.
Really appreciate this update video, clarifications and the in depth info from this and the first one. That demo of thumb typing was quite useful as well - i find the GPD MicroPC quite comfy for thumb typing, but that extra inch of size seems to make it more of a stretch.
In the end most of these devices are a compromise in some way, and as you said it’s great we even get that choice. For me, the hope is it’s a device that is more portable and powerful than the Switch, while also being a full PC for all the flexibility - productivity and gaming.
I love my GPD Win 4. Lately I've been playing around with Jelos on it, and its been a interesting experience.
Thanks for doing this follow up!
I went ahead and ordered one for myself - I was a huge fan of the Win 2, and also like my current Win Max 2, but wanted something a bit smaller. (Obviously we have somewhat different preferences, but I appreciate your perspective.)
The Win Mini isn't exactly what was hoping for - I wanted something a touch smaller than the Win 2, and I think I'm going to miss the USB-A port. But on the whole, this is a lot closer to what I want than anything else out there, and I hope GPD sees enough interest in this one to do another update in a year or three.
i would love to see more comparisons between the win 4 and mini. would love to see them running side by side to see the differences in performance due to cooling, and also the differences in comfortability due to screen size
Leaving those caps on with the screen closed is just asking to crack the LCD long term.
Not really, but it will smudge it. When pressed.
As someone who’s used the win max extensively, I’d know.
A good review a week later is worth way more than a quick review done first day.
Man you answered all the questions i had in my head. Great job with this video review!
And im normally not easily impressed.
Looking forward to the review on Kun! Thanks for going back and adding the info on the GPD though.
Great follow-up. While this device isn’t for me, I always learn a little something and expand my perspective around these (and other) devices by watching. Thank you, as always!
Hey Russ awesome follow-up! So glad you actually just happened to have those thumb caps on hand 👍. Wow! Most reviews just show a video and then never come back for a round 2 follow up. So glad you did. Except the Phawx I probably have seen a part 2 ever. Even Taki Udon hasn't show a round 2. The only question I have to ask again which was left out of both videos was how loud is the fan noise? I give up on the battery life estimate summarys as I get it's all subjective. Thanks again for a stellar follow-up video. It's was totally worth getting feedback from your viewers.
Thank you so much!! The typing part is an exactly what I needed!! I am looking at these devices for gaming/ light work.
Thank you for making a follow up video! Indeed the first review felt lacking and this follow up really does shed more light on the device. Something to remember is that with a more unique handheld like this it's best to spend more time in the review covering it as it's a different approach to the handheld market compared to the familiar designs we typically see and expect. So highlighting what makes it different from the sea of devices and the ideal use cases is what people that are interested are looking for.
Their mistake was to make a TKL keyboard. A 60% layout would be fully usable and the keys would be much larger and easier to type with. I use one as my daily board for PC (gaming & work) and although it does take a while to get used to once you are there there's no going back. (atleast that's my opinion)
I really wish we got that too.
Keyboard (Key) Size is pretty much the only thing keeping me from going with the Mini. I would still like the option to use a mouse and keyboard for gaming (even if it does have a built in gamepad), but the keys being this small seems prohibitive to that end. And I haven't seen anybody even attempting to use the keyboard for touch typing or keyboard gaming on reviews or anything.
@@DoctorShroom yeah lol I was looking keyboard gaming on it rn
Just get a normal laptop, dude
@armyofninjas9055 that didn't make sense. A 60% keyboard still gives you all functionality while increasing the key sizing in this case. You just got ro get used to one. It's fairly "complicated" at first for someone who never used one before but you get used to it fast.
Thank you thank you thank you for covering the short analog sticks topic! This and the fan noise are the only two reasons I didn’t use my GPD Win 2 clamshell as much as I wanted to over the years. I thought the Win Mini would be the *one*, but since you showed this detail, I realize they just can’t fix this in such a small space. I know now I’m the type of person who needs full analog stick controls to enjoy mobile gaming. I’ll be canceling my Win Mini order now.
How do you know you needed the full analog sticks and do you regret canceling it?
@@derosam69I’ve used nubby analog sticks before in the GPD Win 2 previous console and the fan also was always loud. It made games less fun to play. I got the Legion Go and it’s everything I wanted in a portable gaming PC. The fact it plays like a switch is golden. Thx for asking.
I'm not in the market for a handheld or any other products you review, I just like your style of deep dive from an actual human perspective.
All other tech RUclipsrs are slaves to their sponsor, and they'll swear that you will love your crappy new raycon earbuds with terrible sound and you'll also love Raid:Shadow Legends for it's wondeful micro transactions. F.A.K.E as a hippogriff.
I’m getting sooo mixed up. I really want one, but I have no idea if it’s an upgrade over the 6800u device I had previously. Would you know how it compares in terms of FPS or benchmarking at the max 18W TDP, vs the 6800u’s 28W?
Watch the phawxs video on it. He says it not much of an upgrade if you have the 6800 and doesn’t think it’s worth doing.
It's nice to see this review revisitation
Wonder how many hours of my life I've spent watching Russ put things into his pockets.
Oh, I know what he's saying, he's saying, "When is Russ going to put me in his pocket... 😏"
Is there a GPD handheld PC like this but entirely for productivity? I've no interest in this product for gaming but I wonder if you could make the keyboard bigger and fit in a touch pad. That's something I'd like to own.
You could check out the GPD Pocket 3.
There is, it’s called GPD Pocket 3
Laptop
There is a new GPD device coming called the Duo. It is going to be productivity oriented and reportedly has an interesting trick up its sleeve.
Pocket 3, I owned one. It was great but didn't have enough power for my needs. They'll probably do an update on it soon
No one talks about jacket pocket potential. That's the best use case for the gpd win mini not pants pocket.
yeah probably its gonna fit in inner jacket pocket...
This and a sling bag.
Hey man, sorry to hear chicken passed away. Been watching since your early days and I thought those cat breaks were a nice touch
This unlike the ally or steam deck replaces a tablet. It can do anything multimedia related like a tablet and have a large enough screen to make it an enjoyable experience. You get a full trackpad and keyboard to navigate windows. Unlike the Win 4 the keyboard is useable. The win 4 you need to move your hands into an awkward position. This device is even lighter then the ally and much lighter then the deck. It gives you the same 7" screen you get on those. You can type an email or a message to a friend or in an MMO just fine on these keyboards. These keyboards where used to type everything via text or email 15-20 years ago on cell phones. The issue that needs addressing on the mini is the heat and we will know if that got fixed in a few weeks. Supposedly it did up to 25w, but we need actual verification before believing gpd.
As for portability, this fits into any sling bag, small pocket in a backpack, or purse. If you take your deck with you anywhere in that insane case it is less portable then a laptop because of its awkward shape. My deck takes up a lot of valuable space in my backpack every week when I have to pack for 2-3 days. The same will be true of the legion. Also the gpd can be stored in any hoodie or jacket pocket.
100% people like me dock these to monitors and have keyboards and controllers for them .... im just a fan of small powerful devices. They still can be on the go and docked for anywhere u have to go instead of just playing a switch or a ds.
would the GPD Win 2 meet your pocketability threshold? that was the threshold for me and I would love to get something like that soon again...fyi the Win 2 is a different device than the Win Max 2... you seem to confuse them in the review
I’m really happy with my Win 4 (6800U), I’ll pass on the Win Mini, especially since I adopted a newer Win Max 2 2023 (7840U) as a desktop replacement using the GPD G1 while docked. I’ll wait (probably) for a couple of years until the next refresh with the 9000 series (the AMD 8000 series does not look like much of an upgrade). Looking forward to similar or better performance with much better battery performance in 2025!
8000 series is like a refresh of rdna 3, some people are calling it rdna 3 and a half, smh.
Is it a mechanical keyboard? Do you have to click a key to type, or is it smoother than that?
Honestly I just wished someone would review the 7640u model, just to see how well does it go up against the 7840u, and to see how well it is in regards to its price. Mainly because I can probably afford the 7640u than the 7840u, and I would love to have something that small to bring with me not just for gaming but also for work (I mainly work from home but I do go out even alot even during my work hours, like at a mall or something) since I Mainly do graphic design and video editing, I won't do a lot of typing but obviously some keyboard shortcuts involving 2 or more keys will be waaaaay harder, but single key shortcuts will be fine
There's usually a 5-10% performance increade
From my understanding the 6800u Outperforms the 7640u but the 7640u is more enery efficient
@@kevj.3575it’s way more than that if the regular z1 is anything to go by . Check out Russ review of the regular rog ally z1 . It’s like 20% to 30%
I might be wrong, but it feels to me the 7640U is a step further to Steam Deck levels of gaming performance, with both having 8 CUs on the GPU (tho it's RDNA2 on the Deck vs RDNA3) and 6c/12t on the CPU on a more efficient and powerful node vs 4/8 Zen 2 cores. But CPU usually isn't a big problem for gaming (hell, to this day people play games nicely on 4/8 PCs). GPU is. The 6800U is great because it has 12 CUs, but with limited power, the CPU (8/16) and GPU sides keep fighting for power, thus making it not too good for low wattage. The 7840U deals much better with power constraints (and some people park 2 or even 4 cores on the BIOS to distribute more power to the GPU) but has the advantage of a higher performance ceiling if you give it more power, which is what quite some people want, that hour of powerful, hi-res gaming, even if it drains all the battery. It's not my case, I probably wouldn't go past 18w, maybe even 15w, depending on the game. So, in my limited view, if you prefer less power consumption for a decent enough performance, I see no issue with the 7640U. If you're not afraid of lower res or using some FSR, and locked 30fps (maybe 40), for heavier AAA titles. If you want a Deck+ of sorts.
As I said, I might be wrong... but I might be right. Look for some 7640U gaming reviews on YT and Reddit.
You should do a video that is a gauntlet of handheld PCs analog sticks. I feel like that is the most important feature for these handhelds to get right for some people. Great video also, love the meticulous attention to detail with your videos.
I lost everything in a house fire.. some people got so many system's, some probably just collect dust. I cant even afford an old DS, or food to last 2 weeks. I absolutely love retro gaming, and gaming in general. But Even the cheapest system is too expensive after the fire .itd take me literally decades to get one of these. Im in my 20's and i lost eveything from the house fire., I wish i could game again, my luck is too bad to win any giveaways. But Thank you, your videos cheer me up, and keep me strong, one day soon i too will be able to play some games that i love! Its been almost a year. Im lucky to at least be able to watch these videos, as they're keeping me motivated to get back to where i was...thank you for helping me through these tough times. Im not able to eat some days, but you help me take my mind off those issues. Keep up the good work! :)
I had a brick phone growing up, and honestly i miss having a physical keyboard to type with, they should make a smart phone with a physical keyboard, i think that'd be pretty cool
For nearly years I used to run smartphones with keyboards! Look up the Sony Ericsson P1i for my favourite one :) QW are on a U shaped key, tap the left side for Q, right side for W!
The fact that they put ROG ally’s performance and 120hz screen in a clamshell making it smaller to carry while also making it SIGNIFICANTLY LIGHTER compared to those other competitors like deck and legion is like just wonderful ! this is what i have been looking for ! I was thinking of getting ayaneo air1 but I don’t like putting them on pocket or anywhere without a case or cover since i really take a good care of those fragile little joysticks on my devices and CLAMSHELL IS THE ONLY RIGHT ANSWER to this problem therefore I don’t mind recessed joysticks I’ll just get used to it because it’s not the end of the world if we compare other good things about this device. I hope it would not be worse than using nentendo switch joysticks I really hate nentendo switch ones personally But again we can just use bluetooth controller so its like a compact mini gaming laptop which is just brilliant !
Oh my god, for some reason Sonic looks absolutely stunning on that screen!
Personally, I think a Win Max with the same control layout as their Win Mini, would be most ideal for me. It’s too bad this doesn’t exist, yet.
I am thinking of getting one based off both reviews well done by The King
Is there a cap cover that i can buy to "hide" dpad and the console buttons? Can't show that at work. Also can I use those for windows experience? Like analog stick for mouse movement and A and B for left and right mouse click?
I’m not sure you care anymore but there is now, it’s magnetic and purchasable on Amazon. You do need to adhere the magnets to make it removable but it’s not that bad.
Russ: I mentioned that it's a thick experience...
My brain: That's what she said!☠
love your channel, youre so chill
Hi, RGC - would you suggest taking this thing into Trials of Osiris?
Worth buying a 7840U handheld, or will it be outdated soon?
I'd still love to try video editing with this. Sounds very interesting with a device like this
For me the main purpose is cross platform game development and my development tools. It’s huge to have blender, maya, unreal, unity, substance designer and all the other tools with you at all times.
Bringing the entire laptops means having to sit down etc versus wiping this thing out of your pocket which also make the entire experience feel more like I am a kid with my Gameboy again wiping it out the pocket to play Pokémon. It’s a very different experience to use a handheld as your main device.
Awesome follow up review!!!
I love throwing my win max into my pocket and quoting eminem " I gotta laptop in my back pocket"
Your the goat at this ty
You trying to tell us something with overusing the word "thick" along with the pelvis view?
How's the typing with the grip add ons?
Am I going by this no, but am I going watch every video you put out, YES❤
The gpd win 2 and 1 was a good pocket size . But that was the good ol days 😂
I'm very used to thumb typing. I had a Palm Treo, a Blackberry, and a couple other phones with physical keyboards. The problem with the GPD devices (I have a Win4) is that they're too big for thumb typing. Unless you have MASSIVE hands, it's nearly impossible to reach the middle letters like T, Y, G, H, etc. But, they're also too small for normal typing. They really sit in this weird spot where your best bet is to set it down on a table and peck at it with index fingers.
Lol in the world of smart phones ....most people should be used to thumb typing ...a switch doesnt even have a keyboard. Even using your phone in landsxape mode requires thumb typing
The only handheld I carry around is my "New" 3DS XL, and it's perfect in my cargo pockets (or hoodie). The main reason I'm even looking at this one is that I'm hoping to be able to do the same.
I might need to find a 3D print, or block of wood, so I can try it out before dropping $1K. If it fits, I don't mind the bulk- for some reason I actually like feeling knowing that my 3DS is where I put it, while at the same time I'm constantly nervously checking my phone in my other pocket isn't slipping out, for the millionth time, and I have a big phone in a big case.
Hello, how to need tthe @ at the Gpd Win Mini? I didnt find it
How hot does it feel in your hands when you play AAA games?
Great follow up man
thank you very much for your video! Is it possible for you to make a comparison video with the Legion go vs GPD mini and Win Max 2 please? I find the 3 consoles very interesting...
I just had my win 4 stolen. Ive been wondering what to do about it. I love my steam deck, but it really doesnt work as a desktop replacement for me. It's fine for daily browsing and such, but I need windows for work and Im not bothering with dual booting on my deck. The win 4 was perfect as an all in one device. But after being stolen I really dont know what to pick next. Another win 4 but the 7840u this time? Or this win mini. It doesnt have the same style as my win 4, and It looks less pocketable. I frequently carried my win 4 in my back pocket. But the screen is larger, it has more ram, more screen refresh rate options, and a newer processor and arguably a better thumb keyboard. I use em daily to play games, but also as a docked multi-screen desktop. I used 3 monitors with my win 4 daily for instance.
"hadn't heard of thumb typing"
What.
Yeah, I thought it was standard phone jargon but maybe not.
@@Chesemiser He might be too young to have owned a blackberry or a LG enV
@@creaturecore13 Well even smartphones have thumb typing.
@@Chesemiser its not the same being these are physical buttons on a much bigger device, so he might have not connected that is the proper way to type on these keyboards. Tough to not figure it out i think, but at the same time how much time is actually spent on each device doing various things when he has so many and editing takes so long? Im sure he concentrated on the gaming aspect the most with his time.
@@creaturecore13 But you'd still think he'd know the term.
Real keyboard > thumb typing > touch screen keyboard > windows 11 touch typing
I’m interested to know if you could use the keys in pc games like Baldurs Gate where the player experience is designed more for keyboard than controller.
I'm rocking a Win2 with a 2Tb ssd + 1tb SD card and it is the literal max I consider pocket friendly. I have literally every game I love from the 90s to 360/Ps3 era including indie games. But the real magic is taking it out of my pocket when waiting or whenever I find myself with unexpected downtime. If I wanted something clamshell I put in my backpack (assuming I have it) I'd take my laptop lol.
Love this channel
Yeahh... Phaux is nuts for saying this is pocketable
merci beaucoup pour votre vidéo ! il est possible pour vous de faire une vidéo comparatif avec la Legion go vs GPD mini et Win Max 2 svp ? je trouve les 3 consoles très intéressent...
If this isn't pocketable then which handheld windows consoles are?
Excluding ones that are too old to mention such win2 etc.
To be fair, he literally said he doesn't consider any windows handheld to be pocketable
@@josephcuncarr9246 right though I am wondering which come closest I had aya neo and win 3 and win was pocketable in my book but too thick so with less thickness we got it.
even 3ds xl not so good pocketable,original 3ds is real pocket system. On windows,nahh there is none,still mini gonna take not much space in a shoulder bag or backpack.For example,deck with its case...taking huuuge amount of space.
You didn’t know about thumb typing..? Do you type with your fingers on your phone
I understood it as a concept, but had never heard the specific phrase “thumb typing”. It’s a great expression!
When you review the Ayaneo Kun please talk about the feel of the analog sticks. I also play Destiny 2 and I didn't like how they felt on the Rog ally, felt hard to do precise movement vs what a Xbox controllers analog sticks felt like.
Hey Russ, when's the Kun review coming? =)
As someone who as been almost exclusively using me Asus ROG ALLY for Final fantasy XIV, aka an mmo, using the touch screen on the ally lowkey blows when I need to type in party chat XD. They pspgo win model looks dope, and I totally do not need another handheld pc....
"Analogs" in the title seemed to me almost like a diss, like "alternatives", not analog sticks 😅
Delete your browsing history now 😂
I feel like we'll never have pocket sized devices again, except for retro consoles, its such a shame
Some quality of life ideas for this clamshell form factor:
1. Keyboard keys can be made much larger by just having the number and functions via shift/fn keys.
Don't need to replicate a full keyboard physical layout, just the basic letters and numbers for gaming.
2. Wider and deeper alcove for the sticks - This would allow for "taller" sticks and a wider range of movement while still allowing the device to close flush and protect the screen.
3. Is the trackpad actually essential and often used? Could space be saved by eliminating the track pad and making the right thumbstick better callibrated to act like the mouse?
Navigation out of games could be helped with just the use of a good calibrated right thumbstick mouse mode, touch screen and a front end.
Windows is still terrible as a touchscreen OS.
Microsoft made a bad OS which was on the right direction for touchscreen - Windows 8. They had Windows Phone/Mobile to learn some more. Now on Win 11 it feels they just threw it all out the window.
@@RomanBellicTaxi
Microsoft doesn't know what it's doing.
They had so many ventures and side things that have failed, that I think it's the leadership at the highest end and the whims of its shareholders that are the cause of it.
The only two consumer entertainment products that I can think of that has been successful for Microsoft is the Xbox and Surface.
and both are beginning to die. Xbox is dying because MS are focused on trying to sell game pass subscription services and Surface Duo is very much dead in the water because they can't make a touchscreen OS.
Windows phones and Windows 8 had potential, but it had image problems and Microsoft didn't know where to go with it.
Surface Neo wasn't going anywhere because Windows was never going to be ready for tablets/phones, let alone a more sophisticated device like the Surface Neo.
Microsoft shows very little commitment and follow through.
And many of the leaders of those ventures have or are departing.
No please no joystick mouse. There are so many times you need a mouse AND the game pad persistently connected. Whether it’s due to software funkiness where the controller won’t be re-detected, or that it turns into player 2, or exits full screen, or you don’t have time to wait for the software to switch modes.
Joysticks also suck for accuracy, no way would this be acceptable. And no, the touchscreen isn’t a good alternative. It doesn’t even function as a proper mouse at all times in windows. If you want a device that does this, go get literally any other brand than GPD and leave us alone.
I think for the size the GPD Win Max 2 is the better choice. I have the original GPD Win Max which I think is still a good device, but the keyboard layout is abnoying, which was why they made it bigger. I'll be interested in the Max 3 if they make it.
Looks nice, but at the same time seems uncomfortable to hold and type. I agree i probably would not use this for anything but just gaming. I do like the fact that you have the option to use it for other things.
The amount of times I’ve heard this from people like you that have never held these devices is ridiculous. You have no clue
@@BahhBahhBrownSheep 😂 “you have no clue”, I never claimed to owning it, but that’s why we watch these videos to get a better idea whether this suits me or not, and you can have discussions about it here. If you love this device, hey enjoy it, good it meets your needs. “You have no clue” 😂 it’s going to be ok 😂
how long will it live?
The best feeling handheld for pc gaming it hands down the steamdeck. It felt the best out of all of them, way better feeling than the gpd win 4.
But i use it with my xreal AR glasses and the steamdeck wasnt fully compatible with the glasses.
would this e better vs the ally?
Thank you for thumb typing
Actually I never see people carrying anything other devices besides their phones in their pockets and people actually playing games on the go is also very rare. Maybe children showing some mobile games to their friends but even then they aren't playing the seriously. I guess most people just put them in their bags anyway and play them once they have reached their destination like inside their hotel rooms before going to sleep.
So in the end, pocketability might be more of the theoretical thing than and actual practical one.
Too bad GPD devices can't be tried out in store like you can with the Ally or maybe even the SD. Would love to try out the Win Mini and Max, to see if they might be even better than the Win 4 for my use cases, because they are also offering physical keyboards (for DOS or Amiga emulation, especially RPGs).
PS: I wouldn't want to play a shooters with analogue sticks at all. Nothing beats mouse and keyboard for first and and even certain third person games. Playing Skyrim with a controller felt horrible.
*_hi mr russ, can you play game called "hotline miami 1 & 2" in this handheld sir?_*
Love those games ❤️
Wini mini compared to ayaneo ds ??
Removable joysticks would be awesome. I also thought they could do some sort of mechanism where you could push and raise the joysticks up when it’s open and put them back down when closing it. I would have kept my win max 2 if it had better joysticks. They ended up being a deal breaker for me.
Can anyone tell me how the specs on this device compares to the lenovo legion go? Not sure which to buy between the 2
If you want a gaming experience go for the Legion Go, if you want a gaming experience with a laptop replacement get the Mini or WM2
There are pros and cons to each but both are a bit uncertain about the final form. They are rushing for a Nov shipping date. The Go has a Z1E with a 8.8" 144hz native landscape display which is nearly 9" big at 1600p vs the 7" portrait 120Hz Mini at 1080p. The Go has a bigger Li-Po battery 49Whr battery vs the 44Whr on the Mini. The Z1E will be more power efficient than the 7840u on the mini. Also the Go runs faster ram at 750oMT because of the LPDDR5X vs LPDDR5 6400MT found on the Mini but the Mini can have 16, 32GB or 64GB options where as the Go is stuck at 16GB. This seems limited with newer games coming out down the road the higher resolution of the Go's screen uses more vram but if you plan to play at only 800p you can make it work. You get a free carrying case with the Go but this thing is big. The joycons are super thick. The base unit has a tiltable kickstand. There are more features with the Go like FPS mode with using a joycon as a mouse which is neat but could be gimmicky. One cool thing is that these joycons can be paired with ios / android/ or another pc. I have a feeling the Go will be better ventilated to get more performance out of it on a single fan. Probably quieter too at higher TDP than Mini. You can also quick charge it back to 70% in under 30min. Just know this thing is big and chunky and the weight might be a limiting factor. It's a great value at the $750 price point coming with a 1TB fast ssd. The Mini has 2 type-c usb ports with a dedicated Oculink port! You can plug an EGPU in it. The Go has 2 USB type-c 4.o ports that may not support an egpu officially but usually you can do it over USB 4.o. The bandwidth of usb 4 is substantial slower than Oculink so the external GPU option will be worse off performance wise but functional. The Go weighs close 1.85lbs with joycons and the Mini is a hair above a 1lb. That's it in a nutshell.
@@tomoprime217 wow that was very comprehensive thank you very much! I think I'll just purchase the go based on what you said. Seems to be a better fit for me
you gotta start reviewing your devices with an added perspective of "what if this is the only thing im considering/will have in terms of the use case"
What is the emulation list
Nice film👍😀
Is that a GPD mini in your pocket or are you just pleased to see me?
the way clamshells are top heavy sucks real bad for long sessions. that screen weight gets heavier and heavier the longer u hold it.
They’re literally not
Price
Does this device have touch screen ?
Yes
Love the portability but the controls and keyboard are deal breaker for me. It doesn't do either well.
This looks like these fake consoles from 2004 that could run GameCube games, I love that it's actually real now.
I feel like I am the only one that use these wrong and just for thier size alone . My win max stays on my bed with a wired controller . And my win 3 stays docked to a 32 in gaming monitor with a Bluetooth controller .even if i had to stay at a hotel or a friends house they have hdmi cords ... still better than trying to carry around a full blown tower
If this were released before the Ally I would have considered it. Too late, poor customer support and ho-hum controls makes it a no go. Rather disappointing, as this is what I was waiting for after the Win 2.
Imo, the Mini should have sliders and not sticks. Way better for this formfactor.
JNCO Jeans! Ha. Now I know your age.
'Is that a GDP win in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?'
I'm not completely sold, maybe it's the 2242 SSD or that the heat issue has not yet been addressed, yes, plans to solve it are underway. I'll just wait for the final copy of it before I consider buying as I've read about the horrible customer service experience people have had from GPD.
Trading out metal for plastic stinks too.
2230 ssd
If only it had Steam OS and Steam support... I really like the design, but I don't like to deal with windows in a small screen nor do I like the terrible sleep function of windows.