I love this scene especially how creepy it makes thawne looks when talking about Tess and it also explains that body changing device we needed this Scene
The first time being when Barry lost his powers, the second time here, third time being chased by Black Flash, and the fourth one when he was about to be killed by the Nagetive Still Force.
Don't think he was scared, moreso like a " we gonna see if you about it" sort of look but responded appropriately because he knows Joe would go that far for his loved ones
A benefit to leaving this in would be giving a good explanation for the different mannerisms of Wells-Thawne and OG-Thawne. If the memories of Harrison Wells can affect his mood to the point where he grieves someone he only met on the night he murdered her, then he'd obviously behave a little differently to the Thawne we see in Legends and Matt Letscher's other appearances in the Flash, giving both actors a good lore reason to make the character their own. It's always felt odd how different they seem. It's not a huge criticism of the show, but still, this scene would have helped.
A truly awesome scene that raises one serious question from the episode: What was wrong with letting Thawne return *home* and be out of their hair? Why is breaking your word and turning Thawne into the most dedicated enemy you will ever know played to triumphant orchestra music? He'd thought of nothing but going home for 15 years. Explaining he had a family to get home to makes Barry's victory actually kinda suck. I also love this un-screws with the beautiful scene where Wells told Joe about Tess with emotion in his voice.
@@nimeproductions7268 Also Thawne was tricking him knowing that Barry is gonna regret changing the timeline and he will have to revert the timeline back to how it was.
'Cause he's a serial killer. It would be a risk to let him go back to the future and just hope the authorities and possible super heroes of his time manage to capture him and do it before he kills anyone, whereas simply keeping him prisoner here where he is already being held captive would make sure he never takes a life again. These are all good, insuffererably moral people who are unable to just send him back to the future and be like "alright, not our problem anymore". And he already is their biggest enemy. He's been their enemy even before they knew him, especially Barry's.
It had to be I feel like because even tho this isn’t a clear confession .. he’s talking to a cop and agreeing to killing wells and Tess and I think they wanted to wait until the next season for Barry to watch the video for a confession
I see joe went to the liam neeson school of i will hunt you down and kill you, this scene is exactly what i was looking for, i typed in “flash thawne deleted scene” coz i was hoping for something interesting about thawne that i had not seen b4 and this video delivered! He gets tear’y eyed over tess
One detail I think is overlooked in this scene is the extra layer to Thawne's motives, his family. I know now that there are a lot of sources and material that everyone knows about this show, via the comics or the show itself, but here's my head-canon, if you will, about how all the domino pieces fell into place up to this point; or how I chose to make sense of Season 1's narrative before Season 2 happened: Thawne's reasoning for antagonizing the Flash is rooted in his selfish and pathetic reaction to how he saved the people he didn't get to. As time went on (in his perspective), he started becoming embarrassed of that fact; that's why when Flash asks his Time Remnant in Season 2 why he hates him, Thawne hesitates and pauses for a moment before coming up with a "sophisticated" reason as to why he chose to be the Flash's enemy. After becoming Harrison Wells and watching over Team Flash for so long, he started to not only realize what started his vile journey as the Reverse Flash was meaningless and deplorable, but he started to miss something that we never see him talk about in the show outside of this deleted scene... ...his family. I feel the notion of him becoming motivated by seeing his family again is more interesting than trying to kill Barry constantly because it reveals a side of him that's been in the making for 15 years. Out of the shell of Matt Letscher's Reverse Flash, whose evil motivations were as cartoonish as they were horrifying, comes a wiser and more nuanced man such as Tom Cavanagh's Reverse Flash. While it is a general consensus that the side effects of the body swap are the main reason for Thawne's change in persona, I like to think it was also the experience he gained in the 15 years of watching everyone growing up, seeing some of them as a family (i.e., Barry and Cisco). I like to think all that reflects his need to reach his own family again, which is why I love this deleted scene. 1:06 I think this scene is so important in examining the Reverse Flash's current motivations and character. Joe exposes something that no one else discusses or thinks about in the show. I want to believe Thawne felt a genuine surprise when Joe said this and that his answer was true. I know this is a deleted scene, and I wouldn't be surprised if what I said so far is the reason they deleted it in the first place. As I said, these are all my thoughts on the matter. After seeing what they reduced Harrison Wells' Reverse Flash to after this season (including Season 2), I wish I was right because the show always bringing him back to have Tom act his ass off and share scenes with Barry grew old for me, no matter how good his acting would be nearing the last scene.
He wasn’t scared more shocked. He’s only ever fought Barry who’s a goodie two shows hero. But now said heroes dad straight up threatened to murder him. He’s spent 15 years next to such naive and innocent people that it probably stunned him to see Joe like this.
I don't know. In the comics, he didn't care about his family, he killed his parents and even erased his younger brother from existence because he was jealous of him, he didn't have any known loved ones as he only cared about himself. He did once have a crush on a reporter and killed all her boyfriends so she would be single, but when she wouldn't date him, he went back in time and tormented her as as child, which made her catatonic as an adult. However, we don't know if the same holds true for this version of Thawne.
Forget it man...... The writers have gone crazy. They are never gonna answer that and they are never gonna bring back the old setting. Forget CW'S Flash. Wait for Ezra Miller's Flash.
@@aakashsrivastava133 currently both flash’s are not what I want but I agree, Snyder’s cut had much superior writing and cgi compared to CW’s recent seasons
Does thawne really have people in the future that he holds dear??? Or was joe making it all up?. From what i heard or seen. Thawne was always alone from the beginning. In future as well he even killed his own parents and brother.
I love this scene especially how creepy it makes thawne looks when talking about Tess and it also explains that body changing device we needed this Scene
fr bro..
One of the few times that you see Eobard seem genuinely scared, I wish this was included in the show
The first time being when Barry lost his powers, the second time here, third time being chased by Black Flash, and the fourth one when he was about to be killed by the Nagetive Still Force.
i dont think he was scared in this scene...
why the fuck would you delete such scne
Don't think he was scared, moreso like a " we gonna see if you about it" sort of look but responded appropriately because he knows Joe would go that far for his loved ones
Joe isn't a meta but he doesn't hesitate when it comes to family thawn knows that
After all these years, Joe is the only one whose character hasn't been spoiled and is still a lovable character.
agreed
Thawne hasn’t been ruined
lol only?
@@VideoGProductions yes he has he sucks as a villain now
@@Robotman89 not really
Joe west may not be a genius or have super powers but when the chips are down he'll do anything for his family
Did someone say family?
@@HustleRandomVideos Dom Toreto!!!!
I agree
He a genius in his cop tactics
Such a badass moment just to be pushed in front of a train 7 years later
It's was Thawne
If joe open that cell, he is going to be dead. So he can't do anything to Thawne.
@@ВардотКапрелло thawne wouldnt kill joe if he opened the cell as he knows barry wouldnt let him back to the future if he did
off camera too😂but luckily he ended up bein alive doe
A benefit to leaving this in would be giving a good explanation for the different mannerisms of Wells-Thawne and OG-Thawne. If the memories of Harrison Wells can affect his mood to the point where he grieves someone he only met on the night he murdered her, then he'd obviously behave a little differently to the Thawne we see in Legends and Matt Letscher's other appearances in the Flash, giving both actors a good lore reason to make the character their own. It's always felt odd how different they seem.
It's not a huge criticism of the show, but still, this scene would have helped.
A truly awesome scene that raises one serious question from the episode: What was wrong with letting Thawne return *home* and be out of their hair? Why is breaking your word and turning Thawne into the most dedicated enemy you will ever know played to triumphant orchestra music? He'd thought of nothing but going home for 15 years. Explaining he had a family to get home to makes Barry's victory actually kinda suck. I also love this un-screws with the beautiful scene where Wells told Joe about Tess with emotion in his voice.
I mean tbh Thawne killed his parent and got the other one jail time so, I wouldn’t do anything for Thawne either outta anger and rage
@@nimeproductions7268 Also Thawne was tricking him knowing that Barry is gonna regret changing the timeline and he will have to revert the timeline back to how it was.
Thawne would've come back to Barry's time eventually. He still wanted to kill him. Letting him go was just delaying another confrontation.
@@wafflingmean4477Yep.
'Cause he's a serial killer. It would be a risk to let him go back to the future and just hope the authorities and possible super heroes of his time manage to capture him and do it before he kills anyone, whereas simply keeping him prisoner here where he is already being held captive would make sure he never takes a life again. These are all good, insuffererably moral people who are unable to just send him back to the future and be like "alright, not our problem anymore". And he already is their biggest enemy. He's been their enemy even before they knew him, especially Barry's.
Now that we know Eobard's only relationship he had was Meena Dhawan...I believe he may has some loved ones in his century.
But that person no longer exists
@@juliansummers5983 Most likely...but since Eobard Thawne survived his initial death thanks to his Negative Speed Force, we don't know.
I wish this was put in the show
Also Joe seven years later, we have to save Thawne
Eric Wallace in a nutshell
This shouldn’t have been deleted.
It had to be I feel like because even tho this isn’t a clear confession .. he’s talking to a cop and agreeing to killing wells and Tess and I think they wanted to wait until the next season for Barry to watch the video for a confession
@@D2Hot0106 but Barry watched the confession vid in season 1 after Thawne died
@@nimeproductions7268No, he saw it in season 2
@@D2Hot0106it really didn’t have to.
Everyone already knew Thawne did it. It was more the fact he seemingly did a nice thing that was the shock in S2.
I see joe went to the liam neeson school of i will hunt you down and kill you, this scene is exactly what i was looking for, i typed in “flash thawne deleted scene” coz i was hoping for something interesting about thawne that i had not seen b4 and this video delivered! He gets tear’y eyed over tess
i wish they kept this in
One detail I think is overlooked in this scene is the extra layer to Thawne's motives, his family.
I know now that there are a lot of sources and material that everyone knows about this show, via the comics or the show itself, but here's my head-canon, if you will, about how all the domino pieces fell into place up to this point; or how I chose to make sense of Season 1's narrative before Season 2 happened:
Thawne's reasoning for antagonizing the Flash is rooted in his selfish and pathetic reaction to how he saved the people he didn't get to. As time went on (in his perspective), he started becoming embarrassed of that fact; that's why when Flash asks his Time Remnant in Season 2 why he hates him, Thawne hesitates and pauses for a moment before coming up with a "sophisticated" reason as to why he chose to be the Flash's enemy. After becoming Harrison Wells and watching over Team Flash for so long, he started to not only realize what started his vile journey as the Reverse Flash was meaningless and deplorable, but he started to miss something that we never see him talk about in the show outside of this deleted scene...
...his family.
I feel the notion of him becoming motivated by seeing his family again is more interesting than trying to kill Barry constantly because it reveals a side of him that's been in the making for 15 years. Out of the shell of Matt Letscher's Reverse Flash, whose evil motivations were as cartoonish as they were horrifying, comes a wiser and more nuanced man such as Tom Cavanagh's Reverse Flash. While it is a general consensus that the side effects of the body swap are the main reason for Thawne's change in persona, I like to think it was also the experience he gained in the 15 years of watching everyone growing up, seeing some of them as a family (i.e., Barry and Cisco). I like to think all that reflects his need to reach his own family again, which is why I love this deleted scene.
1:06 I think this scene is so important in examining the Reverse Flash's current motivations and character. Joe exposes something that no one else discusses or thinks about in the show. I want to believe Thawne felt a genuine surprise when Joe said this and that his answer was true.
I know this is a deleted scene, and I wouldn't be surprised if what I said so far is the reason they deleted it in the first place. As I said, these are all my thoughts on the matter. After seeing what they reduced Harrison Wells' Reverse Flash to after this season (including Season 2), I wish I was right because the show always bringing him back to have Tom act his ass off and share scenes with Barry grew old for me, no matter how good his acting would be nearing the last scene.
This is an excellent analysis on Eobard Thawne and him being Wells changed him in a sense, adding those 15 years stuck in the 21st century.
Joe's a badass
yeah bro he is underrated
Joe figured out Thawne?? He looked scared shitless 👀
Thawne was definitely not scared. More or less he was probably like, sure man
This scene is awesome and it makes me ponder the question "who are these people in Thawne's future?" Was he talking about his friends/parents?
Probably people like inertia
In s8 he really easily died😂😂
The last remnants of the original thawne storyline
can't believe I found out about this now
You Always have a choice !
Hi
Good thing they didn’t include this scene that’s just an empty threat and would be really out of character for Thawne to be scared
thawne wasnt scared
he wasnt scared he just could tell joe wasnt playing
He wasn’t scared more shocked.
He’s only ever fought Barry who’s a goodie two shows hero. But now said heroes dad straight up threatened to murder him.
He’s spent 15 years next to such naive and innocent people that it probably stunned him to see Joe like this.
I don’t know if this scene until now and holy shit I wish I did.
Reverse flash: your son , he completely me
Should have left this in. Fantasy without novel exploration of the human condition is just kids playing with action figures.
Joe meant that shit
this is why I respect em, well, this version of him anyway.
@@Cosmicmorales I didnt respect him for chewing out Iris and Barry for the thought of letting Thawne die. Joe was full of shit for that.
@@creepincarl that's why I said THIS version he played a more meaningful role in the early seasons.
No reason to take this out.
Should've kept this in
Nice seeing it.
Who does Thawne have waiting for him though?
I don't know. In the comics, he didn't care about his family, he killed his parents and even erased his younger brother from existence because he was jealous of him, he didn't have any known loved ones as he only cared about himself. He did once have a crush on a reporter and killed all her boyfriends so she would be single, but when she wouldn't date him, he went back in time and tormented her as as child, which made her catatonic as an adult. However, we don't know if the same holds true for this version of Thawne.
@@megadrive1996 probably is.
@@megadrive1996 bro is a narcissistic sociopath.. wtf
It’s not really made clear, but it has to be someone. Even though this scene is deleted, it does explain why he wants to go home so badly
Who does eobard care about ?
Forget it man......
The writers have gone crazy. They are never gonna answer that and they are never gonna bring back the old setting. Forget CW'S Flash. Wait for Ezra Miller's Flash.
@@aakashsrivastava133 m I’d like to think he has a daughter and a grandson (named Bart)
@@Omnitrickster0207 Daughter sounds perfect for him. Maybe his wife divorced him after he became a jerk, but he still loves her.
maybe a future version on the current bart or nora
@@aakashsrivastava133 currently both flash’s are not what I want but I agree, Snyder’s cut had much superior writing and cgi compared to CW’s recent seasons
Not a deleted scene.
Hi barrywhite its me
Hi I have a ps4 now yay
oh okay cool what games are you gonna play?
@@barrywhite149 It's been 3 years and Jelly didn't answer your question lmao
how do u guys get those deleted scenes ?
sometimes you gotta know where to look
@@barrywhite149 the dvds
Not a story the Jedi would tell you.
Does thawne really have people in the future that he holds dear??? Or was joe making it all up?. From what i heard or seen. Thawne was always alone from the beginning. In future as well he even killed his own parents and brother.
This scene doesn’t make sense since Thawne could just kill him in an instant.
Weeeeeey no entiendo :(