Man, i just started with a wheel and i almost regret it because it's so fucking hard playing with it. Sometimes i just want to pick up my ds4 again lol. My times where decent and now they're terrible, but i'll keep on practicing.
I think he hit all the high points, but boy what a shotgun blast of information. This vid might be good to give a person an idea of the topics they need to focus on, but not to great at giving out the information itself. It shouldn't be assumed that a new driver taking their "lesson 01" already knows and understands what the apex of a curve is, for instance. Such a thing requires a visual aid. Great initial effort though! This content is long overdue for the game series.
I've tried Project Cars, Assetto Corsa, Race Room and Forza... but i always come back to Dirt because the overall feel of the car and the ffb effects are absolutly outstanding. Great work
Wow just what I needed. Finally dialled in Logitech wheel on Xbox and now I'm loving this so much better. Wheel is now easier than controller with more feedback. I'm still a newbie but enjoying it and justified dollars.
I really love Phil! The pace notes are more detailed than in DR1. I prefer the corner severity called out before the turning direction, I think I process how to set up the car depending on severity and then follow the visual line. It is also great to hear the complexity of the track being reflected in Phils voice, like he sounds stressed or concerned when the going gets hard. This just bypasses my need for judging and planning a set of corners because I already know it is going to be hard by his inflection and then I really absorb his notes. Great job on the pace notes and voicing in DR2!
Also some of them pace note need adjustment. Sometimes u heard the note too late. After i had crashed i have a feeling like Francois delecour when he crash in rally GB 2002 because Daniel grataloup called the note too late. 😆😆😆
Grim yeah, it’s difficult but in about a week I went from useless to quite good just from learning and applying these sort of techniques so it would be helpful to people if the game gave a rally school even if they just copy and pasted Dirt 4’s
Silent Hills I’m glad it’s difficult, it gives it far more replay value and for me it isn’t daunting because I like the challenge but they’re honestly just driving potential players away by not having some sort of tutorial.
@@silenthills282 It's not about being good instantly or what kind of gaming experience someone is looking for. Some of us are very new to this genre and have never had any exposure to the techniques relied on in the game. Wanting interactive training to get a basic understanding and feeling of specific techniques, which can then be practiced and refined through application is not unreasonable - especially for a sim
You need to add more tarmac tracks (like rally san remo italy or some japan touge tracks) and fix the tarmac physics. Handling on tarmac is terrible, car slides like on ice, even with 4wd traction, like it has completely worn out tyres and not fresh racing tyres.
Um, I was looking for a couple tips for beginners and Boom!!!! I see a full on race setup!!! Lol. I'm outta my league here, just puttering around with my ps4 controller. Lol
Play this game with Dual shock 4 and feel the pain. On top of that, despite the game being hard as fuck, they decided not to include a driving school in the game itself. Instead, made a series of videos in which a pro player just records the gameplay of him playing the game with a full $2000 setup including Gears, pedals, steering wheel and what not. Gran Turismo is cheaper than this game and still has a incredible driving school which will make you a pro driver within days.
@@mattjohnston2 I am 13 years old. I think you are right maybe it is made for more patient audience who can spend months to learn to drive... I cleared GT Sport Mission Challanges in 3-4 months. But it seems that this game will take years to adapt to....
judging from how loose his handrake and gear shifter are in this video, it looks more like a $199 Walmart bargain bin package, and btw, it is not a tutorial, but a preview of a tutorial. He spends no time on the various turn severities and basic planning and execution for each. A tutorial would show some theory and explanations beyond gameplay video, but this is simply a gameplay video.
Also, I don't know who this consultant is, but an educator he is not, no matter how pro he may be at driving. The fact that he agreed to make a tutorial leads me to believe he is not a pro driver either, but likes to play one on youtube.
@@TusharGupta-nb7dd hey man don't give up. I was absolutely terrible at the game, but now after a couple of hours I can get first place occasionally. It's really fun. I suggest watching 2kliksphilip's video on dirt rally ( ruclips.net/video/pt_WyiLUoGA/видео.html ). He beat the game using a keyboard. The video legitimately gives good advice for the game & life.
wow what a helpful video, speaking in terms that no one watching a "basics" video would understand. I came here hoping to learn about how to understand the damn turn callouts and this is what i get?
what gearbox do you have because i have paddles so i picked manual sequential but my clutch doesn't do anything and it just acts like semi auto (i think ill check if mabye my clutch isnt set up as an input next time i play)
Love the game my only gripe is how in rx they can take you out with a simple tap , and nobody bats an eye 👁, yet if I touch them nothing happens and I lose my mind ! 😂
Hello! Thank you broo, that is what I was searching for, the autopilot info's meanings. For example when he said 180 left4 I didn t knew what it means. Now I know that 6 is least severe and 1 most severe+the numbers like 30 50 100 meaning the distance between corners. Now I can be much better. In any case, my best results are for not 63th worldwide. I have like 10 top 100 rankings. I am currently dowing all nations and tracks and as we speak, I am in USA at the New England location just finished Hancock Creek Burst. My best result in NE is 150th. I am using automatic and just keyboard, I would be super happy to finish top 50 in some tracks, we will see. P.S. I do only 1 race x track so some results at least for my oppinion, are really amazing if I finish top 100 and also good top 300.
The co-driver is ages too late sometimes, it's often an agony to drive master times without knowing the track by heart, because of the co-driver being either too late or the pacenote being plain wrong, sometimes a left 3 is a left 2 tightens even with optimal racing line, and sometimes a right 4 tightens is a right 6.
then change the co driver callouts to early, start fiddleing with the settings instead of complaining. Pacenotes can never be 100 percent accurate, you just gotta accomodate, thats the fun thing about the game sometimes
I noticed a couple things, the co driver callouts are not explained anywhere. What DC or close or open means, or the number called out with every number. What's the scale of severability? 1-6 is what it appears to be for me but it doesn't seem consistent from track to track. Also, I noticed the clutch is barely used in this video but you said to turn it on? Sorry for my bombardment, I just picked up the game and am so lost
Pro tip Dirt Rally Devs.... Just add the controller settings from DIRT 4, and Dirt Rally 2.0 is FUNNY to play with Controller. I dont know why you guys remove this in the new game
The tarmac physics suck. So I wouldn't suggest any more tarmac rallies, until they are fixed. Besides, Scotland has said to be last rally location for DR 2.0
I know this is an old video but by the looks of your rig i use similar equipment. Do you have or could you do a small video suggesting what in came wheel setting you use? Thanks a billion -PTG Fern
What will you do for Dirt Rally 3 unless you plan on continuing 2.0 after Scotland? Are you still going to split the game between rallycross & rally or make separate games for each, good with variety but it makes each mode more lacking than it could have been. Personally I feel 2 stages per country is a bit low and would like to see more per location in the next game. If you plan on using the same engine for Dirt Rally 3 i'm also ok if you add all 1 & 2.0 stages into 3, FOR FREE.
Hi, how can I play double at PS4, one with the steering wheel and the other the joystick at the same stage with different cars? Is there a way to unlock all cars and tracks?
The only thing you need to do to get good is adjust the games settings one by one in the first few races, the default pad settings are way off particularly the handbrake!
Code Master you did an amazing JOB ON THIS GAME! Give us a serious CARREER MODE IN THE NEXT DR3 or GIVE US THÉ WRC LICENCE ! PLEASEEEE GUYSSS !!!! You are thé masters !!
I really wanted to like this game but I just can't get the steering tight enough to suit. I cannot get within 20 seconds of a win on the first rally cross race.
reposting my favorite comment: Play this game with Dual shock 4 and feel the pain. On top of that, despite the game being hard as fuck, they decided not to include a driving school in the game itself. Instead, made a series of videos in which a pro player just records the gameplay of him playing the game with a full $2000 setup including Gears, pedals, steering wheel and what not. Gran Turismo is cheaper than this game and still has a incredible driving school which will make you a pro driver within days.
![Noob To Max With DRAGON REWORK In Blox Fruits [FULL MOVIE]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/LnBMOinoOvA/mqdefault.jpg)
glad to see this guy with codemasters, i can never forget how he lost a wrc tournament by accidentally glitching through the map
Jackson do you have a link?
Link?
ruclips.net/video/ga-ybVthEs4/видео.html skip to 2:15
Lmao
Lol I thought he lost in an E-Rally race in the game and the gamemakers are making amends by working with him 😅
Come on, DiRT Rally School ....in game, please!
Aries Jhan we had it ford dirt 4 but no it has to be taken away
@@joshstringer8181 thats why i need to buy dirt 4. as total nobb i need that to get what is what. now is not so bad :)
There's literal tutorials in the game
This should've been in the game. How do you release a game this complex and not include *anything* in it to teach people how to play it?
Agreed. A License process like in Gran Turismo with a similar video guide would be great.
@@Luis-st4gq Yes please for Dirty Rally 3.0 I hope they put in classes.
@@Versifyd exactly my thoughts
Because you need to learn it beforehand. This is not for the casual.
Thats why they released dirt 4
Great, I'm playing this with Controller just to torture myself
me too, xbox controller feels my tension lol
Man, i just started with a wheel and i almost regret it because it's so fucking hard playing with it. Sometimes i just want to pick up my ds4 again lol. My times where decent and now they're terrible, but i'll keep on practicing.
Controller is a good way to practice throttle management.
I used my ds4 to practice//shakedown my throttle management and then change into g29 for another shakedown
with the wheel is waaaay harder
He looks like a rendered animation
lul
All animations are rendered...
@Hallison Michel rendering it could also mean draw it, that is what 'rendered' means
Funny because there's literally a driver's skin designed after him in the game.
that's what i thought. daym
1. Release the game
2. Teach people how to play it in like a year 😂😁😁
Glad this video series is online anyway
3. fix tarmac never :)
4. allow mods never :p
Richard Burns Rally did a better job here with the rally school... 16 years ago (2004)
Lots of new players with Game Pass 😎
@@dubtube6691 Rally School in RBR makes us do this same tricks, not seen them on video to learn...
@@EASPORTSWRC its not in game pass
I think he hit all the high points, but boy what a shotgun blast of information. This vid might be good to give a person an idea of the topics they need to focus on, but not to great at giving out the information itself. It shouldn't be assumed that a new driver taking their "lesson 01" already knows and understands what the apex of a curve is, for instance. Such a thing requires a visual aid. Great initial effort though! This content is long overdue for the game series.
yea I felt the same way
Now imagine not receiving it 🤣
Yeah, this video needed to be 30 minutes, at least. lol
the first dirt rally videos did it good
I've tried Project Cars, Assetto Corsa, Race Room and Forza... but i always come back to Dirt because the overall feel of the car and the ffb effects are absolutly outstanding. Great work
"... brake in a straight line." .... This helped so much.
So basically you need to be a rally driver to properly play the game. Anyways, I still play with keyboard, lol..
If I were you I’d play the dirt series not the dirt rally series, that’s more arcadish and more enjoyable for keyboard
Holy fuck people actually play this game with a keyboard and mouse? Wtf
@@KotoJuza Yes we exist
Wow just what I needed. Finally dialled in Logitech wheel on Xbox and now I'm loving this so much better. Wheel is now easier than controller with more feedback. I'm still a newbie but enjoying it and justified dollars.
Did you use the stock settings for your wheel or change it?
2.0 Dirt Rally is amazing. Thank you for new content! 👍
I really love Phil! The pace notes are more detailed than in DR1. I prefer the corner severity called out before the turning direction, I think I process how to set up the car depending on severity and then follow the visual line. It is also great to hear the complexity of the track being reflected in Phils voice, like he sounds stressed or concerned when the going gets hard. This just bypasses my need for judging and planning a set of corners because I already know it is going to be hard by his inflection and then I really absorb his notes. Great job on the pace notes and voicing in DR2!
Yes the pace note voicing and how it is voiced is great!
Fix tarmac physics!
Yea lmao cars slide like their tyres are buttered on tarmac. It's just a more grippy gravel physics.
Also some of them pace note need adjustment. Sometimes u heard the note too late. After i had crashed i have a feeling like Francois delecour when he crash in rally GB 2002 because Daniel grataloup called the note too late. 😆😆😆
@@shiroamada1650 You can change the pace note to earlier or later in the menus
@@YoeriKurvers Even with the earliest calls some of them are too late
@@YoeriKurvers You can, but the calls are kind of inconsistent sometimes, so some calls come super early which is a problem for me at least
I've literally never listened to the co-drivers before i played dirt rally 2. My God it actually is so important
Me too
Could’ve just put an in depth tutorial in the game
Grim yeah, it’s difficult but in about a week I went from useless to quite good just from learning and applying these sort of techniques so it would be helpful to people if the game gave a rally school even if they just copy and pasted Dirt 4’s
Silent Hills I’m glad it’s difficult, it gives it far more replay value and for me it isn’t daunting because I like the challenge but they’re honestly just driving potential players away by not having some sort of tutorial.
Nah
@@silenthills282 It's not about being good instantly or what kind of gaming experience someone is looking for. Some of us are very new to this genre and have never had any exposure to the techniques relied on in the game.
Wanting interactive training to get a basic understanding and feeling of specific techniques, which can then be practiced and refined through application is not unreasonable - especially for a sim
Where's his ps4 controller?
I would highly recommend Richard Burns Rally - Rally School for those who really want to learn rally techniques
Well not many new gamer have heard of it though.
Is this game available at steam or another digital games store ?
@@kapaludara7859 no, but really RBR rally school is very good.
@@dmitry_tarannikov What do you mean with "no" ? Dirt Rally 2.0 is on Steam...
@@CursedRat4u he meant RBR
You need to add more tarmac tracks (like rally san remo italy or some japan touge tracks) and fix the tarmac physics.
Handling on tarmac is terrible, car slides like on ice, even with 4wd traction, like it has completely worn out tyres and not fresh racing tyres.
was pleasantly surprised with learning that clutching at the start line makes you torpedo out of it
Just bought this game on steam. WHAT A GAME! really really hard. Never played anything like it
Um, I was looking for a couple tips for beginners and Boom!!!! I see a full on race setup!!! Lol. I'm outta my league here, just puttering around with my ps4 controller. Lol
Brought this game yesterday for £13, came with all the dlc. The time i have played I LOVE IT! But I absolutely suck at it hahaha.
Play this game with Dual shock 4 and feel the pain.
On top of that, despite the game being hard as fuck, they decided not to include a driving school in the game itself. Instead, made a series of videos in which a pro player just records the gameplay of him playing the game with a full $2000 setup including Gears, pedals, steering wheel and what not.
Gran Turismo is cheaper than this game and still has a incredible driving school which will make you a pro driver within days.
Or maybe the game was made for a different audience? I dunno, I enjoy it just fine with my DualShock controller.
@@mattjohnston2 I am 13 years old. I think you are right maybe it is made for more patient audience who can spend months to learn to drive... I cleared GT Sport Mission Challanges in 3-4 months. But it seems that this game will take years to adapt to....
judging from how loose his handrake and gear shifter are in this video, it looks more like a $199 Walmart bargain bin package, and btw, it is not a tutorial, but a preview of a tutorial. He spends no time on the various turn severities and basic planning and execution for each. A tutorial would show some theory and explanations beyond gameplay video, but this is simply a gameplay video.
Also, I don't know who this consultant is, but an educator he is not, no matter how pro he may be at driving. The fact that he agreed to make a tutorial leads me to believe he is not a pro driver either, but likes to play one on youtube.
@@TusharGupta-nb7dd hey man don't give up. I was absolutely terrible at the game, but now after a couple of hours I can get first place occasionally. It's really fun. I suggest watching 2kliksphilip's video on dirt rally ( ruclips.net/video/pt_WyiLUoGA/видео.html ). He beat the game using a keyboard. The video legitimately gives good advice for the game & life.
You gonna add the ability to choose between left and right hand drive in future games?
Looking forward to more videos like this!
What's the purpose of holding the handbrake at the launch?
You take off quicker .
Today marks the day I force myself to begin learning how to master racing with a wheel, and to play a rally game. Here goes nothing
I envy you
Proper lessons could have proper DLC material. Experts could skip them, while for novices or first time players they would be essentisl.
wow what a helpful video, speaking in terms that no one watching a "basics" video would understand. I came here hoping to learn about how to understand the damn turn callouts and this is what i get?
what gearbox do you have because i have paddles so i picked manual sequential but my clutch doesn't do anything and it just acts like semi auto (i think ill check if mabye my clutch isnt set up as an input next time i play)
Love the game my only gripe is how in rx they can take you out with a simple tap , and nobody bats an eye 👁, yet if I touch them nothing happens and I lose my mind ! 😂
On front wheel drive, sometimes better to lock handbrake first, then turn the wheels.
Hello! Thank you broo, that is what I was searching for, the autopilot info's meanings. For example when he said 180 left4 I didn t knew what it means. Now I know that 6 is least severe and 1 most severe+the numbers like 30 50 100 meaning the distance between corners. Now I can be much better. In any case, my best results are for not 63th worldwide. I have like 10 top 100 rankings. I am currently dowing all nations and tracks and as we speak, I am in USA at the New England location just finished Hancock Creek Burst. My best result in NE is 150th. I am using automatic and just keyboard, I would be super happy to finish top 50 in some tracks, we will see. P.S. I do only 1 race x track so some results at least for my oppinion, are really amazing if I finish top 100 and also good top 300.
Damn you can drive smoothly while explainig ?..
Awesome !!!
Hi, I'm John and when i see Walter Röhrl or Ari Vatanen statistics I piss my pants. By the way, I'm rally consultant on dirt rally 2.0
The co-driver is ages too late sometimes, it's often an agony to drive master times without knowing the track by heart, because of the co-driver being either too late or the pacenote being plain wrong, sometimes a left 3 is a left 2 tightens even with optimal racing line, and sometimes a right 4 tightens is a right 6.
then change the co driver callouts to early, start fiddleing with the settings instead of complaining. Pacenotes can never be 100 percent accurate, you just gotta accomodate, thats the fun thing about the game sometimes
Change the call times then In options 😂
Fantastic and helpful video, more plz!
Lol i bought it Yesterday and now This!Its Amazing
I love DiRT Rally
Dirt rally 1 has great video tutorials I miss them
How are you using clutch with manual sequential like what mode do you use because i can’t with mine
This man just sitting here flying through these tracks at a minimum of 90 mph trying to nicely tell everyone, "just do this"
Thank you, that was a Great video!!
We whant Hyundai i20 in your fabulous game pleaseeeeeeeeeee ♡
They dont have the wrc license unfortunately
R5!
@@samwhale9674 Why? Dirt 4 Have the i20...
380 HP Hyundai i20 is power :)
"We" don't want any modern rally crap, man. Only pure drive experience, no electronics shit
Interesting setup, any info on make & model of the steering wheels, shifter & pedals?
they are thrustmaster/sparco products
0:14
he looks like a sim person rendered into dirt rally 2 lmao
Well you can play as him in the game and he and Oliver solberg helped with the game
Thanks. I have put on the same socks you have and now i play better.
Thanks for this AMAZING game .
What is the steering wheel and parking brake controllers used in the video?
no clutching when changing gear?
Who's idea was not to have AI difficulty setting on career mode?
What do you guys smoke?
There is a difficulty setting no? At the end of the championship it tells you if you've been promoted or not
It's to make it more of a challenge, but if you're really struggling the A.I. does naturally relax after a while in order to make it easier
uow !! that's what I was looking for, e few tips and tricks
great job
What do the greater than >/less than < arrows or (+), (-) or -> mean in between the turn calls?
> Means the road is getting more narrow, < means its widening
Very good. More please!
Omg Jon Armstrong is in DiRT RALLY 2.0 and Formula One since 2016
I noticed a couple things, the co driver callouts are not explained anywhere. What DC or close or open means, or the number called out with every number. What's the scale of severability? 1-6 is what it appears to be for me but it doesn't seem consistent from track to track. Also, I noticed the clutch is barely used in this video but you said to turn it on? Sorry for my bombardment, I just picked up the game and am so lost
Great stuff. Cheers Jon
That P. One guy is pretty good!!!
Pro tip Dirt Rally Devs....
Just add the controller settings from DIRT 4, and Dirt Rally 2.0 is FUNNY to play with Controller.
I dont know why you guys remove this in the new game
intense googling on how to make makeshift wheel for gaming intensifies*
How great was lessons in *first* dirt rally...
Nice stuff, but make sure to add more rallies!
Bring a tarmac rally like Donegal or the Rally of the Lakes
Then ill probably crash spectacularly like Kevin lynch or Eugene donelly. 😝
The tarmac physics suck. So I wouldn't suggest any more tarmac rallies, until they are fixed. Besides, Scotland has said to be last rally location for DR 2.0
I know this is an old video but by the looks of your rig i use similar equipment. Do you have or could you do a small video suggesting what in came wheel setting you use?
Thanks a billion
-PTG Fern
Reach out to Jon on his RUclips or Twitter and he can help 🙂
@@EASPORTSWRC thanks, I'm a big fan of CodeMasters. What is John's personal channel?
@@ptgfern4588 Search Jon Armstrong Rally and you'll find it 🙂
Awesome... Thanks for your video.
3:27 still don't understand how to use PS4 controller to do this
Quick question what real rotation should i use i. Rally 2.0 and what wheel rotation do professional rally drivers use in real life?
Would it be better to learn how to drive with changing gear and shifting manually right in the start or would be automatic be good at first?
If you can manage it, try Manual first but f it's too much info to take in, Auto is easier.
Lovely socks
This game in VR would be amazeballs!
In 10 years when resolutions are getting way better
What will you do for Dirt Rally 3 unless you plan on continuing 2.0 after Scotland?
Are you still going to split the game between rallycross & rally or make separate games for each, good with variety but it makes each mode more lacking than it could have been. Personally I feel 2 stages per country is a bit low and would like to see more per location in the next game. If you plan on using the same engine for Dirt Rally 3 i'm also ok if you add all 1 & 2.0 stages into 3, FOR FREE.
I have made the move from ps4 to pc. Do i have to buy all the dlc packs again or is there a way to transfer it.
I would say it's a separate purchases as it's a different copy of the game. Good question though, ask it on the Codemasters forums
Lol
Is Dirt rally works with a Thrustmaster Ferrari Challange wheel?
Hey buddy, I am a circuit simracer and trying to get into DR2. Any tips? And do you always use bonnet cam?
Can I get the information for that gear setup please?
Dude looking like a tech demo animation😂
Rally Safari would be pretty cool to be implemented in the game. As well as china or japan
can you tell me wich gaming seat and monitor stand are you using pls?
PlaySeat Sensation Pro
Some of us even have them at home, they're good rigs 😎
what setup is being used? thrustmaster?
My white socks have holes on them, can't take cornes as well as you do Jon!
NExt game should have something similar to the rally school in Richard Burns Rally.
I will never in my life be able to drive that fast on tarmac. or anything else.
Hi,
how can I play double at PS4, one with the steering wheel and the other
the joystick at the same stage with different cars? Is there a way to
unlock all cars and tracks?
The only thing you need to do to get good is adjust the games settings one by one in the first few races, the default pad settings are way off particularly the handbrake!
now i want to play although im shit at it
What's the point of blipping the throttle AFTER you've already shifted into the lower gear?
Code Master you did an amazing JOB ON THIS GAME! Give us a serious CARREER MODE IN THE NEXT DR3 or GIVE US THÉ WRC LICENCE ! PLEASEEEE GUYSSS !!!! You are thé masters !!
I really wanted to like this game but I just can't get the steering tight enough to suit. I cannot get within 20 seconds of a win on the first rally cross race.
As a Malaysian, I hope we can see the Proton Iriz R5 into the game.
it's in WRC 8 if you want to drive it virtually
dirt rally 2025
How do you repair the car after an race ? My subaru is totally wrecked still the game force me ro race another track ....
There’s 2 stints then you can repair
@@framekixrr stint?
@@possible1337 yes or whatever you wanna call it
reposting my favorite comment:
Play this game with Dual shock 4 and feel the pain.
On top of that, despite the game being hard as fuck, they decided not to include a driving school in the game itself. Instead, made a series of videos in which a pro player just records the gameplay of him playing the game with a full $2000 setup including Gears, pedals, steering wheel and what not.
Gran Turismo is cheaper than this game and still has a incredible driving school which will make you a pro driver within days.
What is the setup in this video?
The cockpit is a Playseat Sensation Pro, and the rest is provided by Thrustmaster.
@@EASPORTSWRC I am mostly curios about the wheel, shifter and handbrake. Do you know what they are called?
@@knutzano Jon Armstrong was the driver, he'll have the details if you ask him on Twitter 🙂
@@EASPORTSWRC Thank you
Is it just me or does that dude look animated??
In racing games, you're not a PRO if you don't play in you socks... :D
Cant wait for the day i get the game!
IT is out for over a year now, it was also on sale a few times
@@semmelboesel i know mate
Add VR to the mix!!! :)
My man is PLAYING WITH HIS SOCKS!
Super like 😀👍
I must use socks to win? I only know this worse the pedal's pot