How do you cope with the different chucks? I really want a TD173 but i wonder how it would be as all my fittings, aswell as the ones on site, are obviously UK parts
You can't go wrong with either of this tools. Have the previous models -Makita 172 and the Hikoki previous tripple hammer - excellent machines, coped with the smaller 2/3Ah batteries. The different speed settings make them really versatile tools - from precise cabinet assembly - to hard-core building stuff.
@@UltimateToolReviews Appreciate you brotha. Also - just FYI - don't know what HPT is doing with their product domain or verticals marketing , but apparently Lowes "might" be pulling away from HPT. no more information at this time. Usually manufacturer's or supplier's failure to support their own product lines (not always, but I've seen it many times before). still love HPT, but yeah they have to take care of their stuff ie their BUSINESS.
@@AllenZee It's been confirmed on the official Metabo HPT facebook and instagram accounts that some Lowe's are pulling Metabo HPT's cordless tool displays in store, but you will still be able to purchase online through Lowe's. Users had asked about it as their stores no longer have HPT cordless tools. Personally, I was passing through St. Paul, MN and stopped at a store, and they only had HPT nailers displayed and in stock. No other tools. It sucks and seems like a lot more missed opportunities for MHPT to sell their tools. Hopefully, MHPT can find a new retailer and are able to push their brand better in the future. I've also noticed that my local Menard's appears to be getting rid of the Metabo HPT display and clearancing a bunch of their tools. Hopefully, it's just a reset though.
maybe those open slots are for straps to be able to strap the box down? I've been looking to review that Makita as well. I like how compact and feature packed it is.
The slit openings (at 1:07 in the video) allow you to use your index finger and second finger together to slide out the case out of your van / shelving; when the top handle isn’t accessible. I hope that makes sense. Cheers
You have a point if you have to buy 1 tool, then the Metabo would be a good choise. But in my opinion, if you need more tools you have to decide a platform you want to use for the coming years. In my case, I decided a few years ago to go for the LXT platform of Makita, so I wil always looking for the best deals in the 18v platform of Makita. Thanks for the review 👍
Wow that's a smooth trigger. I owned the XDT19 / TD172 for a brief time and I thought that was the smoothest trigger ever on an impact driver. But it looks like the TD173 is on another level in that regard. Cool
I was at my local Lowes today and they had yellow stickered discounts on lots of power tools. The triple hammer was $79 with bag and batteries. You take away price difference, I don't see much difference in performance except in battery life. Makita has really good batteries. Between these 2 I consider them as equals.
on small fasteners there was no difference but on the lag bolt the Metabo HPT with a 2Ah smoked the Makita with a 5Ah battery. That's a sizable performance difference that would only get bigger if you put one of the newer 4Ah batteries with 21700 cells or a MultiVolt battery. Yes, they're equal about being top of the line for their respective brands in the 18V category but they're not equal in performance
I can agree to a point. With my experience with the two when it comes to lag bolts, the HPT starts out strong, very strong, after 20 lags I feel a decline in performance even after changing batteries. I have the 36 volt batteries also and isn't the battery. The Makita seems more consistent in performance on demanding jobs. I wish Metabo was more available and Makita was a little cheaper, at least in my area.@@engineer_alv
Was that the gen 1 triple hammer, or the gen 2 triple hammer bolt? Some Lowe’s are pulling their MHPT cordless displays so you might be seeing more tools on clearance soon.
You're about the clearance, my second one was clearanced at $39 with charger and batteries damaged box. You can't even get one of the batteries for that price.
Great job Indy, this was a good comparison. How is the build quality between the two? It makes sense to me to get the Makita since I'm already on the LXT and XGT platforms, but the Metabo looks like a great value.
Ive actually downgraded back to the XDT14. I can find them next to new on local buy & sells for like $40, so i dont have to cry on the inside when i use it as a hammer multiple times a day and thats worth its weight in gold for me over it being 0.05sec faster on a screw.
I don't blame you, the 16s and 19s are also getting pretty cheap. Only thing that really stands out on the 173 is the rear control panel. I wanted to wait until this model hit the USA, but I can see it being at least another year or longer. Classic Makita being Makita.
That’s a sweet impact. Both are for that matter. I feel Makita needs to update the look of their batteries. Kind of plain old Jane going on with them. Just looks off with that new impact, can at least incorporate different colors or design pattern to match the drivers a little better
I get why there always is a powertest in each review but to me it´s kind of useless, as long as there is "enough" power for ordinary work that is fine by me. Build quality, trigger feel, durabuillity, and overall feel is what I go for. Value for money: the Hikoki was a really great deal, I don´t think I can get that in my country . This is the top tier Makita impact and what you pay for is also a lot of electronics and functions, if you are not using them perhaps a lower tier Makita is the way. Like the DTD153 or 154 (outside US, proberbly XDT12, 13, or something in US).
I've always liked hitachi/hikoki / metabo HPT but in my experience they don't handle falls well and the batteries seem to be prone to failure. In this case you take away the easy insert colic and I'm going with Makita. I prefer a little more power from Makita since they're getting their ass handed to them by everybody it seems but the tools ease of operation and smoothness overshadow that especially when you consider you're not going to be using a 1/4" impact for large lag bolts that often.
@@christopherduke8283 well nah, the normal bits work fine, just using stuff like a 1/2 socket adaptor or a 32mm step bit occasionally gets jammed in the collett
@@samv6767 ive found the only way to get it out is to pull the bit straight out with some something, its like it goes to deep, you can get a bb from makita japan that goes in the hole as an adapter?
The Milwaukee is more powerful but not as smooth. I own Dewalt, Makita, and Milwaukee tools. Out of the 3 impact drivers, my go-to is the Dewalt, only because of their lighter powerstack battery. The Makita is the smoothest with the best precise trigger. Hopefully, Makita comes out with their own stacked lithium batteries.
@@ZeroFallout1I've seen the Metabo HPT Bolt perform about as good as the M18 Fuel 4th gen. And this test showed a sizable difference on bigger lag bolts (favoring Metabo HPT despite only using a 2ah battery) while the Makita excels on smooth tasks like small fasteners.
@@majus1334 that is a poor solution, you are better off making your own spacer from old hex bit. But this tool is already being produced as an international version so it should come to other regions soon.
@@onikwa Our government has programmed you to believe that everything comes from China. Either that, or they want you to buy Dewalt. After all, Dewalt is assembled in America using Chinese parts.
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Just got my TD173 imported to the UK yesterday and even though it was expensive, really happy and better than anything I've ever used before.
How do you cope with the different chucks? I really want a TD173 but i wonder how it would be as all my fittings, aswell as the ones on site, are obviously UK parts
@@harry9262you mean collet? It's fine
You can't go wrong with either of this tools. Have the previous models -Makita 172 and the Hikoki previous tripple hammer - excellent machines, coped with the smaller 2/3Ah batteries. The different speed settings make them really versatile tools - from precise cabinet assembly - to hard-core building stuff.
I'm glad you reviewed this against the HPT -
nobody does any data / reviews for HPT
Big loss there
But solid info brotha
Thanks for watching! At this price, it needs to be perfect and HPT is doing it good for way less.
@@UltimateToolReviews Appreciate you brotha. Also - just FYI - don't know what HPT is doing with their product domain or verticals marketing , but apparently Lowes "might" be pulling away from HPT. no more information at this time. Usually manufacturer's or supplier's failure to support their own product lines (not always, but I've seen it many times before). still love HPT, but yeah they have to take care of their stuff ie their BUSINESS.
@@AllenZee It's been confirmed on the official Metabo HPT facebook and instagram accounts that some Lowe's are pulling Metabo HPT's cordless tool displays in store, but you will still be able to purchase online through Lowe's. Users had asked about it as their stores no longer have HPT cordless tools. Personally, I was passing through St. Paul, MN and stopped at a store, and they only had HPT nailers displayed and in stock. No other tools. It sucks and seems like a lot more missed opportunities for MHPT to sell their tools. Hopefully, MHPT can find a new retailer and are able to push their brand better in the future.
I've also noticed that my local Menard's appears to be getting rid of the Metabo HPT display and clearancing a bunch of their tools. Hopefully, it's just a reset though.
maybe those open slots are for straps to be able to strap the box down? I've been looking to review that Makita as well. I like how compact and feature packed it is.
The slit openings (at 1:07 in the video) allow you to use your index finger and second finger together to slide out the case out of your van / shelving; when the top handle isn’t accessible. I hope that makes sense. Cheers
The little slot at the side is to allow you to pull out the case if you are storing all your cases vertically.
I was about to buy the makita as my first power tool.... I think I'll go with the metabo now. The deWalt DCF850 was a close second
You have a point if you have to buy 1 tool, then the Metabo would be a good choise.
But in my opinion, if you need more tools you have to decide a platform you want to use for the coming years.
In my case, I decided a few years ago to go for the LXT platform of Makita, so I wil always looking for the best deals in the 18v platform of Makita.
Thanks for the review 👍
Wow that's a smooth trigger. I owned the XDT19 / TD172 for a brief time and I thought that was the smoothest trigger ever on an impact driver. But it looks like the TD173 is on another level in that regard. Cool
Very smooth, the XDT19 and the TD173 are the smoothest impacts I've ever tested. However they do noticeably lack power.
@@UltimateToolReviewswhich Makita has more power than the xdt19 ?
I was at my local Lowes today and they had yellow stickered discounts on lots of power tools. The triple hammer was $79 with bag and batteries. You take away price difference, I don't see much difference in performance except in battery life. Makita has really good batteries. Between these 2 I consider them as equals.
on small fasteners there was no difference but on the lag bolt the Metabo HPT with a 2Ah smoked the Makita with a 5Ah battery. That's a sizable performance difference that would only get bigger if you put one of the newer 4Ah batteries with 21700 cells or a MultiVolt battery.
Yes, they're equal about being top of the line for their respective brands in the 18V category but they're not equal in performance
I can agree to a point. With my experience with the two when it comes to lag bolts, the HPT starts out strong, very strong, after 20 lags I feel a decline in performance even after changing batteries. I have the 36 volt batteries also and isn't the battery. The Makita seems more consistent in performance on demanding jobs. I wish Metabo was more available and Makita was a little cheaper, at least in my area.@@engineer_alv
Was that the gen 1 triple hammer, or the gen 2 triple hammer bolt?
Some Lowe’s are pulling their MHPT cordless displays so you might be seeing more tools on clearance soon.
I think both of mine are Gen 1@@e.z.e.932
You're about the clearance, my second one was clearanced at $39 with charger and batteries damaged box. You can't even get one of the batteries for that price.
That’s the way every case should be, a place to store all your bites just make sense
The Blue Hikoki impact driver is cool, maybe get that next.
Hopefully Makita upgrades all their collets on other drills models, the 12 volt is still a not an easy one hand operation
Great job Indy, this was a good comparison. How is the build quality between the two? It makes sense to me to get the Makita since I'm already on the LXT and XGT platforms, but the Metabo looks like a great value.
Makita feels way more solid and smooth, definitely way better built.
When will this come to the UK?
Pretty sure thise holes are for moisture to have a way out so wont rust the things inside, i love my td173 feels suoer nice in hand
Ive actually downgraded back to the XDT14.
I can find them next to new on local buy & sells for like $40, so i dont have to cry on the inside when i use it as a hammer multiple times a day and thats worth its weight in gold for me over it being 0.05sec faster on a screw.
I don't blame you, the 16s and 19s are also getting pretty cheap. Only thing that really stands out on the 173 is the rear control panel. I wanted to wait until this model hit the USA, but I can see it being at least another year or longer. Classic Makita being Makita.
That’s a sweet impact. Both are for that matter. I feel Makita needs to update the look of their batteries. Kind of plain old Jane going on with them. Just looks off with that new impact, can at least incorporate different colors or design pattern to match the drivers a little better
I’ve seen a dtd173, is that the American version of this ? I don’t know much about makita but I’ve been wanting to try one out
The American version has been leaked (xdt20) but this is the Japanese version.
I get why there always is a powertest in each review but to me it´s kind of useless, as long as there is "enough" power for ordinary work that is fine by me. Build quality, trigger feel, durabuillity, and overall feel is what I go for. Value for money: the Hikoki was a really great deal, I don´t think I can get that in my country . This is the top tier Makita impact and what you pay for is also a lot of electronics and functions, if you are not using them perhaps a lower tier Makita is the way. Like the DTD153 or 154 (outside US, proberbly XDT12, 13, or something in US).
Exactly. Build quality, trigger feel, durability, and overall feel are the most important things to look for.
It’s for the makita stacking boxes. Same as festool sustainer system. Like identical
Makita boxes are made by the same manufacturer as festool ones.
I've always liked hitachi/hikoki / metabo HPT but in my experience they don't handle falls well and the batteries seem to be prone to failure. In this case you take away the easy insert colic and I'm going with Makita. I prefer a little more power from Makita since they're getting their ass handed to them by everybody it seems but the tools ease of operation and smoothness overshadow that especially when you consider you're not going to be using a 1/4" impact for large lag bolts that often.
Is it true that U.S style bits do not fit snug on the TD173?
Can confirm, makita rips 6 months every day gets hammered. The Collette will grab your step bits and not let go so dont use step bits
The Japanese impact driver requires Japanese bits ….. vessel provide a great selection
@@christopherduke8283 well nah, the normal bits work fine, just using stuff like a 1/2 socket adaptor or a 32mm step bit occasionally gets jammed in the collett
@@christopherduke8283 vessel don't make a 5/16 nut driver do they? I haven't been able to find one online
@@BestuffM put the impact in reverse and impact it just a bit, it'll come loose 90% of the time
@@samv6767 ive found the only way to get it out is to pull the bit straight out with some something, its like it goes to deep, you can get a bb from makita japan that goes in the hole as an adapter?
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Am wondering how these two stack up against the Milwaukee M18 Gen4 Fuel.
The Milwaukee is more powerful but not as smooth. I own Dewalt, Makita, and Milwaukee tools. Out of the 3 impact drivers, my go-to is the Dewalt, only because of their lighter powerstack battery. The Makita is the smoothest with the best precise trigger. Hopefully, Makita comes out with their own stacked lithium batteries.
That will come in XGT@@ZeroFallout1
@@ZeroFallout1I've seen the Metabo HPT Bolt perform about as good as the M18 Fuel 4th gen. And this test showed a sizable difference on bigger lag bolts (favoring Metabo HPT despite only using a 2ah battery) while the Makita excels on smooth tasks like small fasteners.
When they release a tool in japan how long before the USA get it?
Best case, 8-12 months. But most of the time it's 2 years+ or never.
have you heard about makita bringing out pouch cell batteries . this is a small driver ,needs a small battery
No info. There is some slight hope for XGT with the new 4040F batteries.
ive got that makita did not know the hex chuck is not for usa/euro bits there two short and have too much slop
It makes zero difference unless you try to use a Japanese bit in and western chuck
Not an issue, it can be very easily mitigated.
You need a spacer, Makita has OEM part for it. Makita Bit Piece A-44672 Bit Adjustment For Impact Screwdriver 322279-6
@@majus1334 that is a poor solution, you are better off making your own spacer from old hex bit. But this tool is already being produced as an international version so it should come to other regions soon.
How do you get the metabo rebate?
rapid-rebates.com/metabo-hpt
Ive got same one, purple, amazing tool.
Some people would say that not supporting China is worth every dollar.
Good job, you've been successfully programmed by your government 😂
Ok buddy
@@onikwa Our government has programmed you to believe that everything comes from China.
Either that, or they want you to buy Dewalt. After all, Dewalt is assembled in America using Chinese parts.
Good luck finding a Milwaukee or Dewalt tool that is not made in China. Some Dewalts are mexican made.But 80% or more is PRC.
Bruh, literally everything is made in china, well a lot of stuff.
The ridgid 1 is better
Every penny
Yea, but it's not purple
why dont they make this in 40v. im so sick of makita not helping the 40v gang
Why you need 40v? Use up battery fast? 18v its more than planty
because 40v people have to much money 😂