Love love love the Old World. I wish that I wasn’t so busy today, I’d watch the whole thing in one sitting. One thing that I noticed; when the gyrocopter fled the charge, the troll chargers will still do a charge roll, and they have to move their full charge distance at the gyrocopter. Unless they chose to and can redirect.
Awesome, at last the Square Based representation we've been waiting for! I have the impression the dwarves resolute rule was missed a few times: -1 to all flee and pursuit moves. Those boys don't move so fast.
I love this channel!! My main go to for Old world content. You play the game with such fun and enthusiasm and all your hosts seems such genuine, great people. Keep it up
Bard "Some of these models may be older than I am" Me sees blacklining painting style "Yup" then I realise I'm old enough that I bought them first time round.....
Great batrep guys !!! Thank you :) I noticed that often in your channels, you tend to take very few characters, usualy 2 or 3. Is that what the meta looks like, or is it a choice. Personnally I love my heroes, and I wonder if you are shooting yourself in the foot going for fun heroes instead of more meat.
You know life is getting weird when the mrs turns around sees I'm watching warhammer and just yells look its your people XD to which all I can say is that's a grudge XD
I don’t play old world, or aos but after visiting Warhammer world and seeing games like these, ( and also the incredible painting is part of this but) damn the sculpts are nice!
Fun report! My biggest critique though would be it seemed like the dwarf army was heavily tailored to fight trolls which (just my opinion) is less exciting than a rounded army
Val is an awesome Guy ^^ Having him paired with Bard was the setup one needs for great laughts, funtimes and all manners of silly things... also... MOTHER!!! ^^
What a battle! The dice gods certainly were fickle! I’m guessing the dwarf list being a little more optimised to fight trolls was to account for Val’s storied history with warhammer fantasy. Would be interesting to see some more “scenario” based battles for fantasy. Ambushes, last stands, hold the bridge… etc. Great stuff team
I think it was more to account for Trolls potentially rolling right through the poor dwarfs unopposed. We tweaked a few things and I think we kinda nailed the balance for the purposes of a battlereport anyway. Also doesn't help that I'm not exactly gods gift to warhammer, despite my enthusiasm haha
@@valheffelfinger6521 ahh thanks for the context. I didn’t realise that was a legit concern with TrollvDwarf. Trolls have a lot of advantages… but seemed pretty balanced with negatives. But thats just on paper. Need to play more! I’m currently getting a troll hoard together. When i was a kid i’d have my grubby nose pressed up against the glass of the local hobby store… OBSESSED with those old river troll models. So finally i’ll have an army of them. Anyway. Cracking content team! Thanks
@jimirowe7006 yeaaaahhhhh. For example had we not had flaming on the cannons I'd have saved over half of all the Cannon ball shots (5+ rerolling). Had there been great weapons on the Trolls they'd have wounded on 2s vs everything... and had I screened the giants with trolls (which I would have in a competitive situation) the giants would gave essentially been untargetable (can't see the spot to land beyond the Trolls, and can't bounce a cannonball through monsters.) It was actually a pretty amazing collaborative effort off camera. And probably the most genuinely "narrative" driven game I've ever played (in the sense that we played together to make an entertaining game first and foremost). Definitely a great vibe on set!
When you redress ranks (or have the Drilled rules), can the Command Group be repositioned in the centre of the fighting rank like in any other manoeuvre or you must redress around it?
@19:17 When the Charge target Flees you can only follow through with the Charge or redirect, you cant restrain. If you do continue the Charge it is still a full charge move so Charging units move their Movement plus Charge roll (high die) EVEN IF THEY DON'T CATCH the fleeing unit. Fleeing when your unit is 1" away is almost never a good idea as the 2d6 or even 3d6 you move is rarely more than the Charging unit's Move + charge roll.
By far, the most entertaining bat rep I have seen for TOW. Two thematic armies and two very entertaining generals. Bravo!
Thanks man!
I said to Lawrence that if this report gets to 100k views I'll ship him Smalls
MAKE IT HAPPEN!
I am a simple man, I see Val, I spend the next 2h glued to my screen.
1.4 hours achhhktually 😢
Amen brother
Careful with glue
“I don’t really know what’s happening, but I’m excited” - Bard.
Sums up my life really
Nothing beats the classic Dwarfs Vs horde of Greenskins match up.
Val: Hi, I'm Val Hefelfinger!
Me: Oooo, visitor's curse! Get used to rolling lots of 1s!
Val: I'm playing The Bard!
Me: Oh. Could go either way, then.
Just went all in on Old World Dwarves. Love these models. Love this Bat Rep.
The idea that the trolls are just hungry students makes a lot of sense
Fluorescent adolescents.
Really enjoyed this one guys, it's been sitting on my watch list for ages - wish I'd watched it sooner! Love the Old World
Best one yet, love the energy and ethos of trying for a fun game over pure competitiveness. Keep it coming please!
I went back to Canada but hopefully these fellas can carry on without me.
Love love love the Old World. I wish that I wasn’t so busy today, I’d watch the whole thing in one sitting. One thing that I noticed; when the gyrocopter fled the charge, the troll chargers will still do a charge roll, and they have to move their full charge distance at the gyrocopter. Unless they chose to and can redirect.
And most likely they would have caught the gyro and killed it
😂 RIP to Bonecrusher. Great episode, very well done battle report.
Crazy to see Val on the channel! I'm not a big old world fan but great to see him get some appreciation.
A rare Grim After Dark fan?
@SquareBasedOldWorld just a fan of the honestwargamer/square based show 🙂
you two have a great dynamic. Super fun game too!
man old world content just equals views and engagement ^^ keep it coming we need more of this.
How do you figure? The views have had a steep drop every video so far.
That troll general was the best most entertaining man you have had in your channel, ever!
And he took is shitty hit rolls like an absolut champ :)
So good to see Val and the old world! Don't forget the resolute on the stunties. - 1 to pursuit etc.
Val, you made this a special night for me. Squarebased FTW, glory to TT!
Bard spinning around miming the great weapons.. 3 camera shots later still swinging. That got me.
Bard feeling a great responsibility to keeping the older than he is dwarves safe and in fighting shape is very thematic. Ancestors are watching 👀 😳 😅
I love your battreps you picture how that game should be played! Give us more hungry students and splashed folks!
I really enjoy these twos chemistry!
Square based shout out, great to finally watch this long awaited battle report. You're a natural Val.
1:07:55 Remember Runes of Protection on Ironbreakers. 6+ ward save on any non-magical attacks.
first time watcher... loved it and love the slayers!!!!
That’s going in the book.... of great videos. Keep up the great work.
OMG I've been waiting for this one for *weeks*
dodging vomit is definitely a good skill in university
This was really fun! You can actually imagine the battle happening and many hilarious (but very bloody) things ensuing as well! Well done!
Finally. Some decent entertainment!
Glad to see you found a cool mega Val...
Awesome, at last the Square Based representation we've been waiting for! I have the impression the dwarves resolute rule was missed a few times: -1 to all flee and pursuit moves. Those boys don't move so fast.
Old World is fun to watch but i was never super interested in playing myself. This Troll army is actually getting me exited to possible give it a shot
THATS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT
The blue giant looks amazing
I was honoured to paint it for Val!!
Poor Smalls. He tried his best.
Who? Lol
It just wasn't very good.
I love the old world battle reports!
I love this channel!! My main go to for Old world content. You play the game with such fun and enthusiasm and all your hosts seems such genuine, great people. Keep it up
In my case, they just did a really great job of editing
@@valheffelfinger6521 100% perfect editing to get a great flow but the hosts that make me laugh for sure as well
@@Monkboy666 lol I'm Val from this episode : ) ... I was joking though. I am indeed devastatingly charming and genuine.
@@valheffelfinger6521 😂😂 bravo 👏
We finally found somebody who can match the Bard for absurdly bad luck.
Thanks for the middle of the night upload so I have something to watch before I try to sleep again.
Hagatha Christie, what a name, what a Gal!
What a great report! Wonderful guest and great to see the Troll Horde.
The crossover I didn't know I needed
I spy a Gotrek in that blob of slayers, absolutely fantastic battle report!
When your opponent chooses flee you dont make a pursuit move, you make a charge move. You would have squished a copter there
Dang it!
Also you cannot restraint a charge, you can either redirect it or run down the foe
I dont know why but those dwarf warrior models has so god damn much charm to them =D
Bard "Some of these models may be older than I am"
Me sees blacklining painting style "Yup" then I realise I'm old enough that I bought them first time round.....
I love the old dwarf modles! DIGGY DIGGY HOLE!!!!
Great batrep guys !!! Thank you :)
I noticed that often in your channels, you tend to take very few characters, usualy 2 or 3.
Is that what the meta looks like, or is it a choice.
Personnally I love my heroes, and I wonder if you are shooting yourself in the foot going for fun heroes instead of more meat.
You know life is getting weird when the mrs turns around sees I'm watching warhammer and just yells look its your people XD to which all I can say is that's a grudge XD
I assume she was referring to the Trolls?
Fantastic battle report. Great work!
Awesome Battle Report! Seeing the Trolls and all the Trollslayers was epic! Awesome video!
Dwalin must have aimed that first cannonball. "Aim fer his jambags!"
Excellent thanks team!
Val was a great opponent! Such a fun game!
Really enjoyed this. Both players were really fun and sporting.
I don’t play old world, or aos but after visiting Warhammer world and seeing games like these, ( and also the incredible painting is part of this but) damn the sculpts are nice!
@15:45 you can see the bonegrinder as its a large target, everybody can see it over other bases
the cannon aims at a spot in the ground rather than a model, so the dwarven unit does block line of sight here.
Is that troll slayer with the ear-nose chain where the description of Gotrek came from?
No, it’s the original Gotrek model!
Was a shame he wasn’t used as the Giant slayer, last one standing.
Please more OLD WORLD, great fun
Fantastic looking armies, can't beat some Dwarf on Orc action.
Hagatha Christie! 🤣🤣
Here for Val the man!
Super fun game. I was already thinking about troll hordes. This is actually selling me on them.
Fun report! My biggest critique though would be it seemed like the dwarf army was heavily tailored to fight trolls which (just my opinion) is less exciting than a rounded army
SATISFY THE GRUDGE
Beautiful armies, great players! Amazing guys, love the Old World content keep it coming! Where do you keep finding these great armies of old minis!?
Val is an awesome Guy ^^ Having him paired with Bard was the setup one needs for great laughts, funtimes and all manners of silly things... also... MOTHER!!! ^^
I am happy to see The Old World on this channel. 😀
What a battle! The dice gods certainly were fickle! I’m guessing the dwarf list being a little more optimised to fight trolls was to account for Val’s storied history with warhammer fantasy.
Would be interesting to see some more “scenario” based battles for fantasy. Ambushes, last stands, hold the bridge… etc.
Great stuff team
I think it was more to account for Trolls potentially rolling right through the poor dwarfs unopposed. We tweaked a few things and I think we kinda nailed the balance for the purposes of a battlereport anyway.
Also doesn't help that I'm not exactly gods gift to warhammer, despite my enthusiasm haha
@@valheffelfinger6521 ahh thanks for the context. I didn’t realise that was a legit concern with TrollvDwarf. Trolls have a lot of advantages… but seemed pretty balanced with negatives. But thats just on paper. Need to play more!
I’m currently getting a troll hoard together. When i was a kid i’d have my grubby nose pressed up against the glass of the local hobby store… OBSESSED with those old river troll models. So finally i’ll have an army of them.
Anyway. Cracking content team! Thanks
@jimirowe7006 yeaaaahhhhh. For example had we not had flaming on the cannons I'd have saved over half of all the Cannon ball shots (5+ rerolling). Had there been great weapons on the Trolls they'd have wounded on 2s vs everything... and had I screened the giants with trolls (which I would have in a competitive situation) the giants would gave essentially been untargetable (can't see the spot to land beyond the Trolls, and can't bounce a cannonball through monsters.)
It was actually a pretty amazing collaborative effort off camera. And probably the most genuinely "narrative" driven game I've ever played (in the sense that we played together to make an entertaining game first and foremost). Definitely a great vibe on set!
By Grungi, it's finally happening
Yaaaaay fantasy! Yaaaay Val! Yaaaaay SquareBased!
THIS SEEMS LIKE A ELGI SCHEME!
SHORT!?
THAT'S GOING IN THE BOOK!
Val H is my spirit animal in mamajama pajamas!
Bard might be the tabletop tactic presenter I would be most concerned about welding an axe, like for his own safety
Been anticipating more Old world content, so gla its trolls
Yes... YES! TOW sweet goodness! I need more TOW BPs!
Val is a breath of fresh air, talks clear and knows what he is doing (and no high pitched squeaky voice :p)
Be good to see these generals battle again! Very entertaining.
Man its all gifts of santa for dawi. Total war warhammer also getting dwarf dlc. So cool to see them on tabletop!
6:44 Going in the book for that one
Keep that TOW content coming! 🤩
Fantastic batrep. Thoroughly enjoyed it.
What a fun game. Great entertainment!
Great match, team. Very ….entertaining. 😉😂
Woot! Ben waiting for this! 🍿🍿🍿
Vals look to the camera “thanks rules 😎👉🏻” should be a T-shirt 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
No wonder the trolls are so hungry if they’re barrffin’ all the time 😅
Wait, Val has a nice head of hair??? I've never seen him hatless!!! Thanks for the battle rep!
Honestly it's because I'm tremendously lazy and just throw a hat on rather than combing it
@@SquareBasedOldWorldJust admit it. The hair has been CGIed!😂
Huh, Val looks exactly how he sounds
Not sure what that means but I'll take it!
@valheffelfinger6521 wonderful, is the answer to looking how you sound bud lol
Ahhh the Bard James is my Boi😂
Would be great to get Vals social links in the description 😊❤
Awesome to see the Dawi on the tabletop again picking up grudges. Are you guys still looking for old Old World models?
I truly hope we get more Old World episodes on this channel.
Nothing firm is coming yet as we focus on our RPG content 🙂
@@tabletoptacticsboooooo
Great one.
When you redress ranks (or have the Drilled rules), can the Command Group be repositioned in the centre of the fighting rank like in any other manoeuvre or you must redress around it?
@19:17 When the Charge target Flees you can only follow through with the Charge or redirect, you cant restrain. If you do continue the Charge it is still a full charge move so Charging units move their Movement plus Charge roll (high die) EVEN IF THEY DON'T CATCH the fleeing unit. Fleeing when your unit is 1" away is almost never a good idea as the 2d6 or even 3d6 you move is rarely more than the Charging unit's Move + charge roll.
Can we get a Skaven Vs. Empire and Dark Vs. High Elfs
Man, I love Dwarf armies. And this was a good matchup against tha Trolls! But that Slayers diss triggered me, i felt the pain of that one lol
Awesome batrep! One question though, does the "Slayer" special rule don't apply to the "deathblow" rule?
Great game as usual. Quick question. What battle mat are you using? Thank you.
It's probably Pwork wargames The Valley. But I might be wrong.
Just started
But what lovely painted models on both sides.