Love love love the Old World. I wish that I wasn’t so busy today, I’d watch the whole thing in one sitting. One thing that I noticed; when the gyrocopter fled the charge, the troll chargers will still do a charge roll, and they have to move their full charge distance at the gyrocopter. Unless they chose to and can redirect.
I love this channel!! My main go to for Old world content. You play the game with such fun and enthusiasm and all your hosts seems such genuine, great people. Keep it up
Awesome, at last the Square Based representation we've been waiting for! I have the impression the dwarves resolute rule was missed a few times: -1 to all flee and pursuit moves. Those boys don't move so fast.
You know life is getting weird when the mrs turns around sees I'm watching warhammer and just yells look its your people XD to which all I can say is that's a grudge XD
What a battle! The dice gods certainly were fickle! I’m guessing the dwarf list being a little more optimised to fight trolls was to account for Val’s storied history with warhammer fantasy. Would be interesting to see some more “scenario” based battles for fantasy. Ambushes, last stands, hold the bridge… etc. Great stuff team
I think it was more to account for Trolls potentially rolling right through the poor dwarfs unopposed. We tweaked a few things and I think we kinda nailed the balance for the purposes of a battlereport anyway. Also doesn't help that I'm not exactly gods gift to warhammer, despite my enthusiasm haha
@@valheffelfinger6521 ahh thanks for the context. I didn’t realise that was a legit concern with TrollvDwarf. Trolls have a lot of advantages… but seemed pretty balanced with negatives. But thats just on paper. Need to play more! I’m currently getting a troll hoard together. When i was a kid i’d have my grubby nose pressed up against the glass of the local hobby store… OBSESSED with those old river troll models. So finally i’ll have an army of them. Anyway. Cracking content team! Thanks
@jimirowe7006 yeaaaahhhhh. For example had we not had flaming on the cannons I'd have saved over half of all the Cannon ball shots (5+ rerolling). Had there been great weapons on the Trolls they'd have wounded on 2s vs everything... and had I screened the giants with trolls (which I would have in a competitive situation) the giants would gave essentially been untargetable (can't see the spot to land beyond the Trolls, and can't bounce a cannonball through monsters.) It was actually a pretty amazing collaborative effort off camera. And probably the most genuinely "narrative" driven game I've ever played (in the sense that we played together to make an entertaining game first and foremost). Definitely a great vibe on set!
Bard "Some of these models may be older than I am" Me sees blacklining painting style "Yup" then I realise I'm old enough that I bought them first time round.....
Val is an awesome Guy ^^ Having him paired with Bard was the setup one needs for great laughts, funtimes and all manners of silly things... also... MOTHER!!! ^^
I don’t play old world, or aos but after visiting Warhammer world and seeing games like these, ( and also the incredible painting is part of this but) damn the sculpts are nice!
Great batrep guys !!! Thank you :) I noticed that often in your channels, you tend to take very few characters, usualy 2 or 3. Is that what the meta looks like, or is it a choice. Personnally I love my heroes, and I wonder if you are shooting yourself in the foot going for fun heroes instead of more meat.
Fun report! My biggest critique though would be it seemed like the dwarf army was heavily tailored to fight trolls which (just my opinion) is less exciting than a rounded army
@19:17 When the Charge target Flees you can only follow through with the Charge or redirect, you cant restrain. If you do continue the Charge it is still a full charge move so Charging units move their Movement plus Charge roll (high die) EVEN IF THEY DON'T CATCH the fleeing unit. Fleeing when your unit is 1" away is almost never a good idea as the 2d6 or even 3d6 you move is rarely more than the Charging unit's Move + charge roll.
A great battle report, the guys are really fun and the models look superb, it just bugs me that they made such a glaring rules oversight with the trolls and the hag charging the gyro that fled, that would change the whole flow of the battle
When you redress ranks (or have the Drilled rules), can the Command Group be repositioned in the centre of the fighting rank like in any other manoeuvre or you must redress around it?
super entertaining! If I had any guarantee that old world battle reps would be readily available in the paid-for version (not a big 40k fan) I would sign up immediately. Keep up the good work... P.S. The more Val the better :)
Thanks! If you mean our paid for On Demand members service, we have loads of Old World reports. They’re released either weekly or bi weekly exclusively for our members. Download our app and you can check out the library for yourself before deciding :)
By far, the most entertaining bat rep I have seen for TOW. Two thematic armies and two very entertaining generals. Bravo!
Thanks man!
I said to Lawrence that if this report gets to 100k views I'll ship him Smalls
MAKE IT HAPPEN!
I am a simple man, I see Val, I spend the next 2h glued to my screen.
1.4 hours achhhktually 😢
Amen brother
Careful with glue
Really enjoyed this one guys, it's been sitting on my watch list for ages - wish I'd watched it sooner! Love the Old World
Nothing beats the classic Dwarfs Vs horde of Greenskins match up.
“I don’t really know what’s happening, but I’m excited” - Bard.
Sums up my life really
Val: Hi, I'm Val Hefelfinger!
Me: Oooo, visitor's curse! Get used to rolling lots of 1s!
Val: I'm playing The Bard!
Me: Oh. Could go either way, then.
Just went all in on Old World Dwarves. Love these models. Love this Bat Rep.
Best one yet, love the energy and ethos of trying for a fun game over pure competitiveness. Keep it coming please!
I went back to Canada but hopefully these fellas can carry on without me.
Love love love the Old World. I wish that I wasn’t so busy today, I’d watch the whole thing in one sitting. One thing that I noticed; when the gyrocopter fled the charge, the troll chargers will still do a charge roll, and they have to move their full charge distance at the gyrocopter. Unless they chose to and can redirect.
And most likely they would have caught the gyro and killed it
Crazy to see Val on the channel! I'm not a big old world fan but great to see him get some appreciation.
A rare Grim After Dark fan?
@SquareBasedOldWorld just a fan of the honestwargamer/square based show 🙂
The idea that the trolls are just hungry students makes a lot of sense
Fluorescent adolescents.
man old world content just equals views and engagement ^^ keep it coming we need more of this.
How do you figure? The views have had a steep drop every video so far.
That troll general was the best most entertaining man you have had in your channel, ever!
And he took is shitty hit rolls like an absolut champ :)
😂 RIP to Bonecrusher. Great episode, very well done battle report.
Val, you made this a special night for me. Squarebased FTW, glory to TT!
So good to see Val and the old world! Don't forget the resolute on the stunties. - 1 to pursuit etc.
you two have a great dynamic. Super fun game too!
Square based shout out, great to finally watch this long awaited battle report. You're a natural Val.
Bard spinning around miming the great weapons.. 3 camera shots later still swinging. That got me.
I love your battreps you picture how that game should be played! Give us more hungry students and splashed folks!
Bard feeling a great responsibility to keeping the older than he is dwarves safe and in fighting shape is very thematic. Ancestors are watching 👀 😳 😅
I really enjoy these twos chemistry!
1:07:55 Remember Runes of Protection on Ironbreakers. 6+ ward save on any non-magical attacks.
first time watcher... loved it and love the slayers!!!!
That’s going in the book.... of great videos. Keep up the great work.
I love this channel!! My main go to for Old world content. You play the game with such fun and enthusiasm and all your hosts seems such genuine, great people. Keep it up
In my case, they just did a really great job of editing
@@valheffelfinger6521 100% perfect editing to get a great flow but the hosts that make me laugh for sure as well
@@Monkboy666 lol I'm Val from this episode : ) ... I was joking though. I am indeed devastatingly charming and genuine.
@@valheffelfinger6521 😂😂 bravo 👏
Finally. Some decent entertainment!
Glad to see you found a cool mega Val...
This was really fun! You can actually imagine the battle happening and many hilarious (but very bloody) things ensuing as well! Well done!
Awesome, at last the Square Based representation we've been waiting for! I have the impression the dwarves resolute rule was missed a few times: -1 to all flee and pursuit moves. Those boys don't move so fast.
Old World is fun to watch but i was never super interested in playing myself. This Troll army is actually getting me exited to possible give it a shot
THATS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT
dodging vomit is definitely a good skill in university
OMG I've been waiting for this one for *weeks*
Poor Smalls. He tried his best.
Who? Lol
It just wasn't very good.
You know life is getting weird when the mrs turns around sees I'm watching warhammer and just yells look its your people XD to which all I can say is that's a grudge XD
I assume she was referring to the Trolls?
We finally found somebody who can match the Bard for absurdly bad luck.
When your opponent chooses flee you dont make a pursuit move, you make a charge move. You would have squished a copter there
Dang it!
Also you cannot restraint a charge, you can either redirect it or run down the foe
What a great report! Wonderful guest and great to see the Troll Horde.
I love the old world battle reports!
Thanks for the middle of the night upload so I have something to watch before I try to sleep again.
The blue giant looks amazing
I was honoured to paint it for Val!!
Awesome Battle Report! Seeing the Trolls and all the Trollslayers was epic! Awesome video!
Hagatha Christie, what a name, what a Gal!
I spy a Gotrek in that blob of slayers, absolutely fantastic battle report!
The crossover I didn't know I needed
Really enjoyed this. Both players were really fun and sporting.
What a battle! The dice gods certainly were fickle! I’m guessing the dwarf list being a little more optimised to fight trolls was to account for Val’s storied history with warhammer fantasy.
Would be interesting to see some more “scenario” based battles for fantasy. Ambushes, last stands, hold the bridge… etc.
Great stuff team
I think it was more to account for Trolls potentially rolling right through the poor dwarfs unopposed. We tweaked a few things and I think we kinda nailed the balance for the purposes of a battlereport anyway.
Also doesn't help that I'm not exactly gods gift to warhammer, despite my enthusiasm haha
@@valheffelfinger6521 ahh thanks for the context. I didn’t realise that was a legit concern with TrollvDwarf. Trolls have a lot of advantages… but seemed pretty balanced with negatives. But thats just on paper. Need to play more!
I’m currently getting a troll hoard together. When i was a kid i’d have my grubby nose pressed up against the glass of the local hobby store… OBSESSED with those old river troll models. So finally i’ll have an army of them.
Anyway. Cracking content team! Thanks
@jimirowe7006 yeaaaahhhhh. For example had we not had flaming on the cannons I'd have saved over half of all the Cannon ball shots (5+ rerolling). Had there been great weapons on the Trolls they'd have wounded on 2s vs everything... and had I screened the giants with trolls (which I would have in a competitive situation) the giants would gave essentially been untargetable (can't see the spot to land beyond the Trolls, and can't bounce a cannonball through monsters.)
It was actually a pretty amazing collaborative effort off camera. And probably the most genuinely "narrative" driven game I've ever played (in the sense that we played together to make an entertaining game first and foremost). Definitely a great vibe on set!
Bard "Some of these models may be older than I am"
Me sees blacklining painting style "Yup" then I realise I'm old enough that I bought them first time round.....
I love the old dwarf modles! DIGGY DIGGY HOLE!!!!
Val is an awesome Guy ^^ Having him paired with Bard was the setup one needs for great laughts, funtimes and all manners of silly things... also... MOTHER!!! ^^
I dont know why but those dwarf warrior models has so god damn much charm to them =D
I don’t play old world, or aos but after visiting Warhammer world and seeing games like these, ( and also the incredible painting is part of this but) damn the sculpts are nice!
Is that troll slayer with the ear-nose chain where the description of Gotrek came from?
No, it’s the original Gotrek model!
Was a shame he wasn’t used as the Giant slayer, last one standing.
Val was a great opponent! Such a fun game!
Here for Val the man!
Excellent thanks team!
Hagatha Christie! 🤣🤣
Great batrep guys !!! Thank you :)
I noticed that often in your channels, you tend to take very few characters, usualy 2 or 3.
Is that what the meta looks like, or is it a choice.
Personnally I love my heroes, and I wonder if you are shooting yourself in the foot going for fun heroes instead of more meat.
Dwalin must have aimed that first cannonball. "Aim fer his jambags!"
Super fun game. I was already thinking about troll hordes. This is actually selling me on them.
Yaaaaay fantasy! Yaaaay Val! Yaaaaay SquareBased!
Fun report! My biggest critique though would be it seemed like the dwarf army was heavily tailored to fight trolls which (just my opinion) is less exciting than a rounded army
@15:45 you can see the bonegrinder as its a large target, everybody can see it over other bases
the cannon aims at a spot in the ground rather than a model, so the dwarven unit does block line of sight here.
Fantastic looking armies, can't beat some Dwarf on Orc action.
Fantastic battle report. Great work!
Please more OLD WORLD, great fun
Beautiful armies, great players! Amazing guys, love the Old World content keep it coming! Where do you keep finding these great armies of old minis!?
I am happy to see The Old World on this channel. 😀
SATISFY THE GRUDGE
Been anticipating more Old world content, so gla its trolls
Val H is my spirit animal in mamajama pajamas!
Fantastic batrep. Thoroughly enjoyed it.
Val is a breath of fresh air, talks clear and knows what he is doing (and no high pitched squeaky voice :p)
6:44 Going in the book for that one
Be good to see these generals battle again! Very entertaining.
By Grungi, it's finally happening
Yes... YES! TOW sweet goodness! I need more TOW BPs!
Man its all gifts of santa for dawi. Total war warhammer also getting dwarf dlc. So cool to see them on tabletop!
@19:17 When the Charge target Flees you can only follow through with the Charge or redirect, you cant restrain. If you do continue the Charge it is still a full charge move so Charging units move their Movement plus Charge roll (high die) EVEN IF THEY DON'T CATCH the fleeing unit. Fleeing when your unit is 1" away is almost never a good idea as the 2d6 or even 3d6 you move is rarely more than the Charging unit's Move + charge roll.
Bard might be the tabletop tactic presenter I would be most concerned about welding an axe, like for his own safety
Keep that TOW content coming! 🤩
Wait, Val has a nice head of hair??? I've never seen him hatless!!! Thanks for the battle rep!
Honestly it's because I'm tremendously lazy and just throw a hat on rather than combing it
@@SquareBasedOldWorldJust admit it. The hair has been CGIed!😂
No wonder the trolls are so hungry if they’re barrffin’ all the time 😅
THIS SEEMS LIKE A ELGI SCHEME!
SHORT!?
THAT'S GOING IN THE BOOK!
What a fun game. Great entertainment!
Vals look to the camera “thanks rules 😎👉🏻” should be a T-shirt 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Woot! Ben waiting for this! 🍿🍿🍿
Great match, team. Very ….entertaining. 😉😂
Huh, Val looks exactly how he sounds
Not sure what that means but I'll take it!
@valheffelfinger6521 wonderful, is the answer to looking how you sound bud lol
I truly hope we get more Old World episodes on this channel.
Nothing firm is coming yet as we focus on our RPG content 🙂
@@tabletoptacticsboooooo
Man, I love Dwarf armies. And this was a good matchup against tha Trolls! But that Slayers diss triggered me, i felt the pain of that one lol
A great battle report, the guys are really fun and the models look superb, it just bugs me that they made such a glaring rules oversight with the trolls and the hag charging the gyro that fled, that would change the whole flow of the battle
NOT TO MENTION HE DIDN'T TAKE GREAT WEAPONS!!! 😩 that is nerfing yourself so so hard
Would be great to get Vals social links in the description 😊❤
Great one.
Ahhh the Bard James is my Boi😂
When you redress ranks (or have the Drilled rules), can the Command Group be repositioned in the centre of the fighting rank like in any other manoeuvre or you must redress around it?
Thank you.
Awesome to see the Dawi on the tabletop again picking up grudges. Are you guys still looking for old Old World models?
Can we get a Skaven Vs. Empire and Dark Vs. High Elfs
super entertaining! If I had any guarantee that old world battle reps would be readily available in the paid-for version (not a big 40k fan) I would sign up immediately. Keep up the good work...
P.S. The more Val the better :)
Thanks! If you mean our paid for On Demand members service, we have loads of Old World reports. They’re released either weekly or bi weekly exclusively for our members. Download our app and you can check out the library for yourself before deciding :)
There's even one more Val report.
@@tabletoptactics oh hell yeah, I'm in!
@@valheffelfinger6521 Sounds like great Value!