Love love love the Old World. I wish that I wasn’t so busy today, I’d watch the whole thing in one sitting. One thing that I noticed; when the gyrocopter fled the charge, the troll chargers will still do a charge roll, and they have to move their full charge distance at the gyrocopter. Unless they chose to and can redirect.
Awesome, at last the Square Based representation we've been waiting for! I have the impression the dwarves resolute rule was missed a few times: -1 to all flee and pursuit moves. Those boys don't move so fast.
I love this channel!! My main go to for Old world content. You play the game with such fun and enthusiasm and all your hosts seems such genuine, great people. Keep it up
I don’t play old world, or aos but after visiting Warhammer world and seeing games like these, ( and also the incredible painting is part of this but) damn the sculpts are nice!
What a battle! The dice gods certainly were fickle! I’m guessing the dwarf list being a little more optimised to fight trolls was to account for Val’s storied history with warhammer fantasy. Would be interesting to see some more “scenario” based battles for fantasy. Ambushes, last stands, hold the bridge… etc. Great stuff team
I think it was more to account for Trolls potentially rolling right through the poor dwarfs unopposed. We tweaked a few things and I think we kinda nailed the balance for the purposes of a battlereport anyway. Also doesn't help that I'm not exactly gods gift to warhammer, despite my enthusiasm haha
@@valheffelfinger6521 ahh thanks for the context. I didn’t realise that was a legit concern with TrollvDwarf. Trolls have a lot of advantages… but seemed pretty balanced with negatives. But thats just on paper. Need to play more! I’m currently getting a troll hoard together. When i was a kid i’d have my grubby nose pressed up against the glass of the local hobby store… OBSESSED with those old river troll models. So finally i’ll have an army of them. Anyway. Cracking content team! Thanks
@jimirowe7006 yeaaaahhhhh. For example had we not had flaming on the cannons I'd have saved over half of all the Cannon ball shots (5+ rerolling). Had there been great weapons on the Trolls they'd have wounded on 2s vs everything... and had I screened the giants with trolls (which I would have in a competitive situation) the giants would gave essentially been untargetable (can't see the spot to land beyond the Trolls, and can't bounce a cannonball through monsters.) It was actually a pretty amazing collaborative effort off camera. And probably the most genuinely "narrative" driven game I've ever played (in the sense that we played together to make an entertaining game first and foremost). Definitely a great vibe on set!
Fun report! My biggest critique though would be it seemed like the dwarf army was heavily tailored to fight trolls which (just my opinion) is less exciting than a rounded army
Great batrep guys !!! Thank you :) I noticed that often in your channels, you tend to take very few characters, usualy 2 or 3. Is that what the meta looks like, or is it a choice. Personnally I love my heroes, and I wonder if you are shooting yourself in the foot going for fun heroes instead of more meat.
You know life is getting weird when the mrs turns around sees I'm watching warhammer and just yells look its your people XD to which all I can say is that's a grudge XD
Val is an awesome Guy ^^ Having him paired with Bard was the setup one needs for great laughts, funtimes and all manners of silly things... also... MOTHER!!! ^^
Bard "Some of these models may be older than I am" Me sees blacklining painting style "Yup" then I realise I'm old enough that I bought them first time round.....
fast brains square off, the speed of the tete-a-tete and rules processing is truly awe inspiring, they're operating on a higher plane and caught on camera. Im going to show this to my wife to show that men can communicate like this too
@19:17 When the Charge target Flees you can only follow through with the Charge or redirect, you cant restrain. If you do continue the Charge it is still a full charge move so Charging units move their Movement plus Charge roll (high die) EVEN IF THEY DON'T CATCH the fleeing unit. Fleeing when your unit is 1" away is almost never a good idea as the 2d6 or even 3d6 you move is rarely more than the Charging unit's Move + charge roll.
A great battle report, the guys are really fun and the models look superb, it just bugs me that they made such a glaring rules oversight with the trolls and the hag charging the gyro that fled, that would change the whole flow of the battle
The ravenous recourse spell - I didn't think it could be used for charging as its a conveyance spell and is cast in remaining moves after charges are done? Around the 1 hour mark.
By far, the most entertaining bat rep I have seen for TOW. Two thematic armies and two very entertaining generals. Bravo!
Thanks man!
I am a simple man, I see Val, I spend the next 2h glued to my screen.
1.4 hours achhhktually 😢
Amen brother
Careful with glue
I said to Lawrence that if this report gets to 100k views I'll ship him Smalls
MAKE IT HAPPEN!
Really enjoyed this one guys, it's been sitting on my watch list for ages - wish I'd watched it sooner! Love the Old World
“I don’t really know what’s happening, but I’m excited” - Bard.
Sums up my life really
Just went all in on Old World Dwarves. Love these models. Love this Bat Rep.
Nothing beats the classic Dwarfs Vs horde of Greenskins match up.
😂 RIP to Bonecrusher. Great episode, very well done battle report.
Best one yet, love the energy and ethos of trying for a fun game over pure competitiveness. Keep it coming please!
I went back to Canada but hopefully these fellas can carry on without me.
Crazy to see Val on the channel! I'm not a big old world fan but great to see him get some appreciation.
A rare Grim After Dark fan?
@SquareBasedOldWorld just a fan of the honestwargamer/square based show 🙂
Love love love the Old World. I wish that I wasn’t so busy today, I’d watch the whole thing in one sitting. One thing that I noticed; when the gyrocopter fled the charge, the troll chargers will still do a charge roll, and they have to move their full charge distance at the gyrocopter. Unless they chose to and can redirect.
And most likely they would have caught the gyro and killed it
Val: Hi, I'm Val Hefelfinger!
Me: Oooo, visitor's curse! Get used to rolling lots of 1s!
Val: I'm playing The Bard!
Me: Oh. Could go either way, then.
man old world content just equals views and engagement ^^ keep it coming we need more of this.
How do you figure? The views have had a steep drop every video so far.
The idea that the trolls are just hungry students makes a lot of sense
Fluorescent adolescents.
That troll general was the best most entertaining man you have had in your channel, ever!
And he took is shitty hit rolls like an absolut champ :)
Val, you made this a special night for me. Squarebased FTW, glory to TT!
you two have a great dynamic. Super fun game too!
So good to see Val and the old world! Don't forget the resolute on the stunties. - 1 to pursuit etc.
I love your battreps you picture how that game should be played! Give us more hungry students and splashed folks!
Square based shout out, great to finally watch this long awaited battle report. You're a natural Val.
Bard feeling a great responsibility to keeping the older than he is dwarves safe and in fighting shape is very thematic. Ancestors are watching 👀 😳 😅
Bard spinning around miming the great weapons.. 3 camera shots later still swinging. That got me.
I really enjoy these twos chemistry!
Awesome, at last the Square Based representation we've been waiting for! I have the impression the dwarves resolute rule was missed a few times: -1 to all flee and pursuit moves. Those boys don't move so fast.
That’s going in the book.... of great videos. Keep up the great work.
I love this channel!! My main go to for Old world content. You play the game with such fun and enthusiasm and all your hosts seems such genuine, great people. Keep it up
In my case, they just did a really great job of editing
@@valheffelfinger6521 100% perfect editing to get a great flow but the hosts that make me laugh for sure as well
@@Monkboy666 lol I'm Val from this episode : ) ... I was joking though. I am indeed devastatingly charming and genuine.
@@valheffelfinger6521 😂😂 bravo 👏
Old World is fun to watch but i was never super interested in playing myself. This Troll army is actually getting me exited to possible give it a shot
THATS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT
1:07:55 Remember Runes of Protection on Ironbreakers. 6+ ward save on any non-magical attacks.
Finally. Some decent entertainment!
Glad to see you found a cool mega Val...
This was really fun! You can actually imagine the battle happening and many hilarious (but very bloody) things ensuing as well! Well done!
first time watcher... loved it and love the slayers!!!!
OMG I've been waiting for this one for *weeks*
I don’t play old world, or aos but after visiting Warhammer world and seeing games like these, ( and also the incredible painting is part of this but) damn the sculpts are nice!
The crossover I didn't know I needed
We finally found somebody who can match the Bard for absurdly bad luck.
I love the old world battle reports!
The blue giant looks amazing
I was honoured to paint it for Val!!
What a battle! The dice gods certainly were fickle! I’m guessing the dwarf list being a little more optimised to fight trolls was to account for Val’s storied history with warhammer fantasy.
Would be interesting to see some more “scenario” based battles for fantasy. Ambushes, last stands, hold the bridge… etc.
Great stuff team
I think it was more to account for Trolls potentially rolling right through the poor dwarfs unopposed. We tweaked a few things and I think we kinda nailed the balance for the purposes of a battlereport anyway.
Also doesn't help that I'm not exactly gods gift to warhammer, despite my enthusiasm haha
@@valheffelfinger6521 ahh thanks for the context. I didn’t realise that was a legit concern with TrollvDwarf. Trolls have a lot of advantages… but seemed pretty balanced with negatives. But thats just on paper. Need to play more!
I’m currently getting a troll hoard together. When i was a kid i’d have my grubby nose pressed up against the glass of the local hobby store… OBSESSED with those old river troll models. So finally i’ll have an army of them.
Anyway. Cracking content team! Thanks
@jimirowe7006 yeaaaahhhhh. For example had we not had flaming on the cannons I'd have saved over half of all the Cannon ball shots (5+ rerolling). Had there been great weapons on the Trolls they'd have wounded on 2s vs everything... and had I screened the giants with trolls (which I would have in a competitive situation) the giants would gave essentially been untargetable (can't see the spot to land beyond the Trolls, and can't bounce a cannonball through monsters.)
It was actually a pretty amazing collaborative effort off camera. And probably the most genuinely "narrative" driven game I've ever played (in the sense that we played together to make an entertaining game first and foremost). Definitely a great vibe on set!
Thanks for the middle of the night upload so I have something to watch before I try to sleep again.
I dont know why but those dwarf warrior models has so god damn much charm to them =D
What a great report! Wonderful guest and great to see the Troll Horde.
Fun report! My biggest critique though would be it seemed like the dwarf army was heavily tailored to fight trolls which (just my opinion) is less exciting than a rounded army
I spy a Gotrek in that blob of slayers, absolutely fantastic battle report!
Great batrep guys !!! Thank you :)
I noticed that often in your channels, you tend to take very few characters, usualy 2 or 3.
Is that what the meta looks like, or is it a choice.
Personnally I love my heroes, and I wonder if you are shooting yourself in the foot going for fun heroes instead of more meat.
Poor Smalls. He tried his best.
Who? Lol
It just wasn't very good.
Really enjoyed this. Both players were really fun and sporting.
You know life is getting weird when the mrs turns around sees I'm watching warhammer and just yells look its your people XD to which all I can say is that's a grudge XD
I assume she was referring to the Trolls?
Val is an awesome Guy ^^ Having him paired with Bard was the setup one needs for great laughts, funtimes and all manners of silly things... also... MOTHER!!! ^^
Excellent thanks team!
Awesome Battle Report! Seeing the Trolls and all the Trollslayers was epic! Awesome video!
When your opponent chooses flee you dont make a pursuit move, you make a charge move. You would have squished a copter there
Dang it!
Also you cannot restraint a charge, you can either redirect it or run down the foe
Super fun game. I was already thinking about troll hordes. This is actually selling me on them.
dodging vomit is definitely a good skill in university
Val was a great opponent! Such a fun game!
I am happy to see The Old World on this channel. 😀
Here for Val the man!
Hagatha Christie, what a name, what a Gal!
Bard "Some of these models may be older than I am"
Me sees blacklining painting style "Yup" then I realise I'm old enough that I bought them first time round.....
Fantastic looking armies, can't beat some Dwarf on Orc action.
I love the old dwarf modles! DIGGY DIGGY HOLE!!!!
Is that troll slayer with the ear-nose chain where the description of Gotrek came from?
No, it’s the original Gotrek model!
Was a shame he wasn’t used as the Giant slayer, last one standing.
Beautiful armies, great players! Amazing guys, love the Old World content keep it coming! Where do you keep finding these great armies of old minis!?
Fantastic battle report. Great work!
Yaaaaay fantasy! Yaaaay Val! Yaaaaay SquareBased!
Hagatha Christie! 🤣🤣
Val is a breath of fresh air, talks clear and knows what he is doing (and no high pitched squeaky voice :p)
Please more OLD WORLD, great fun
Dwalin must have aimed that first cannonball. "Aim fer his jambags!"
SATISFY THE GRUDGE
Been anticipating more Old world content, so gla its trolls
@15:45 you can see the bonegrinder as its a large target, everybody can see it over other bases
the cannon aims at a spot in the ground rather than a model, so the dwarven unit does block line of sight here.
Fantastic batrep. Thoroughly enjoyed it.
Man its all gifts of santa for dawi. Total war warhammer also getting dwarf dlc. So cool to see them on tabletop!
Be good to see these generals battle again! Very entertaining.
Val H is my spirit animal in mamajama pajamas!
THIS SEEMS LIKE A ELGI SCHEME!
SHORT!?
THAT'S GOING IN THE BOOK!
Would be great to get Vals social links in the description 😊❤
fast brains square off, the speed of the tete-a-tete and rules processing is truly awe inspiring, they're operating on a higher plane and caught on camera. Im going to show this to my wife to show that men can communicate like this too
Woot! Ben waiting for this! 🍿🍿🍿
Keep that TOW content coming! 🤩
Bard might be the tabletop tactic presenter I would be most concerned about welding an axe, like for his own safety
What a fun game. Great entertainment!
Wait, Val has a nice head of hair??? I've never seen him hatless!!! Thanks for the battle rep!
Honestly it's because I'm tremendously lazy and just throw a hat on rather than combing it
@@SquareBasedOldWorldJust admit it. The hair has been CGIed!😂
By Grungi, it's finally happening
Awesome to see the Dawi on the tabletop again picking up grudges. Are you guys still looking for old Old World models?
Yes... YES! TOW sweet goodness! I need more TOW BPs!
@19:17 When the Charge target Flees you can only follow through with the Charge or redirect, you cant restrain. If you do continue the Charge it is still a full charge move so Charging units move their Movement plus Charge roll (high die) EVEN IF THEY DON'T CATCH the fleeing unit. Fleeing when your unit is 1" away is almost never a good idea as the 2d6 or even 3d6 you move is rarely more than the Charging unit's Move + charge roll.
Great match, team. Very ….entertaining. 😉😂
Great one.
Vals look to the camera “thanks rules 😎👉🏻” should be a T-shirt 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Man, I love Dwarf armies. And this was a good matchup against tha Trolls! But that Slayers diss triggered me, i felt the pain of that one lol
I truly hope we get more Old World episodes on this channel.
Nothing firm is coming yet as we focus on our RPG content 🙂
@@tabletoptacticsboooooo
Can we get a Skaven Vs. Empire and Dark Vs. High Elfs
Can’t get enough Val content
Me neither
Ahhh the Bard James is my Boi😂
A great battle report, the guys are really fun and the models look superb, it just bugs me that they made such a glaring rules oversight with the trolls and the hag charging the gyro that fled, that would change the whole flow of the battle
NOT TO MENTION HE DIDN'T TAKE GREAT WEAPONS!!! 😩 that is nerfing yourself so so hard
6:44 Going in the book for that one
No wonder the trolls are so hungry if they’re barrffin’ all the time 😅
Man I love the way the dwarfs look in fantasy
The ravenous recourse spell - I didn't think it could be used for charging as its a conveyance spell and is cast in remaining moves after charges are done? Around the 1 hour mark.