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Fled? No they didn’t flee, they were welcomed to stay in the United States and integrate back into American society. They chose not too. Change the video name.
The cadence of his speech is so uniquely southern in a very old timey way. Listen to early interviews of southerners who lived through the civil war. Eerie but very cool.
You guys are acting like people don't still talk like this. Not sure you guys even live in the area. He has a classic South Carolina accent. Go listen to the football player Xavier Legette he also sounds like this. I'm not saying it's not a cool accent, I live in the area as well I don't sound this country but you guys are acting like it's gone or something making it more rare than it actually is lol.
@@SmokyOle not necessarily rare but 160 years in isolation this accent survived? That's nuts. This speech cadence/accent doesn't exist where I live but I know South Carolina has some crazy accents. But this dude's ancestry isn't South Carolina, it's Alabama.
Hey, first-generation Brazilian-American here. The 'Confederados' culture kind of died off back in the 70s-80s, as the 2nd and 3rd generations, who were the last to still grow up isolated, started passing away. After that, only a very small group remained in the area. It is quite a dead culture nowadays. Apart from some old people, almost all descendants are now fully integrated into Brazilian society and no longer practice their Southern traditions. Most of them do not speak English. My grandpa was appointed as the U.S. general consul in São Paulo back in the 60s, and even though he was a Yankee, I remember him talking kindly about the Confederados and mentioning that they were already struggling to maintain their heritage. He helped them with some funding for the maintenance of their graveyard.
Did they go to Brazil 15:57 to continue profiting off of slaves and cotton? Also, if you’re first generation Brazilian-American and your grandfather a yankee, I assume you were raised in Brazil? Do you have a yankee accent?
@@Lex_Lugar As I mentioned, my grandfather was appointed consul in São Paulo and came to Brazil in the 60s with the whole family (including my mom). They stayed here for about 10 years until my grandfather took on other roles at the U.S. State Department and moved back to Washington. My mom was born and spent her childhood in NY, lived a few years in Brazil, and returned to the U.S. with my grandfather to study (Columbia University). That’s where she met my dad (also from NY). When my grandfather decided to retire in Brazil, they took the chance and moved here together in the 80s. I was born and raised in Brazil, spent a few years in NY and LA, and yes, my accent leans more towards NY. Regarding the Confederados and slavery, as far as I know, yes, they came to Brazil with the promise of profiting from the same plantation system they had in the Southern states. However, it backfired. They were tricked by local slave owners and ended up having to work the land themselves.
Oh yeah, if you go to rural towns in NC & SC, they'd make this dude seem like he was talking "correct" English!! I'm from a small town in SC where there still only lives 100 ppl--it's called Lowndesville. I graduated with the same 40 ppl I began kindergarten with (I'm 46)! I moved away at 20 & live in Denver, NC. All my family still live there though. Being 3 hrs away makes me feel like I've moved to NYC, visiting makes me feel like I'm going to Mayberry....for real! I had to get away from there--being a trans/non-binary individual surrounded by folks dressed head to toe in camo who drive big trucks adorned with confederate flag crap doesn't make one feel very safe!!! Take care!
Daniel, who is interviewed here, is one of my many cousins in Brazil. My great-great-grandparents and great-grandparents moved to Brasil from the American South and lived in the state of São Paulo. My grandmother and father were born in Americana, SP. My father was allowed to speak only English at home. I was born in the city of São Paulo but have lived in the U.S. most of my life. Tenho muitas saudades da minha família no Brasil!
One of the most famous singers in Brazil is called Rita Lee Jones. She is a Confederate descendent. "Lee" is a homage to General Lee. Was shocked when I found out.
General Lee was a good man. Read about him. Just because he was the general of the Confederate army does not make him a racist monster. Washington DC asked him to be their general first before they asked the other guy. But Lee declined because he was from VA and he would essentially be against his own state who has sided with the Confederates. Back then your state meant way more than the federal government. Different times. But Lee was for the end of slavery thinking it had to happen. So as someone who loves history, with an open mind from the Millennial generation, I'd have to say Lee was a good name to give your children. It honored a man who was an honorable soldier and a gentleman.
It’s fascinating. Cajun from Louisiana here. And I actually thought there are verrrry slight things he does in his speech which sounds cajun as well. But not completely. Just some (not all) vowels .
I am a Cajun from south Louisiana. It’s indescribable but there are some consonants and vowels he makes that sound so very Cajun. But still obviously a ”Latin” accent. I’ve never heard someone sound so Cajun without sounding Cajun before.
That's exactly what I was thinking. He sounds like a Cajun from Louisiana. Makes sense, from the mix of influences (French, Spanish, Anglo-Irish, etc).
@@theparadigm8149 point being he doesn't sound like a "country bumpkin" he sounds like a guy from Louisiana... country bumpkin would be like Georgia, TN, KY, WV. also, just FYI... Louisiana isn't part of the south, just like Texas isn't. it's on its own
I read a book by Agatha Christie these days. Why didn't they ask Evans. Released I 1934, I think. She must have used the word queer 40 times or more. I chuckled a few times. The same with gay in old movies. Men saying "I'm feeling so gay".
I remember that word still had it's normal meaning as late as the 1990s (at least in Texas). It was a pejorative way to call somebody "weird". Then by the 2000s the word had been taken over by the rainbow flag community.
I remember it being used by my grandparents with its original meaning in the 70s. The euphemistic usage is older than you might think, but it didn't become the main usage in the US until the 80s, depending on the region.
i live in western north carolina and his accent is _trippin'_ me out... it's not consistent, but certain words and inflections are *very* recognizable southern drawl. so, to hear it so infrequently as he's speaking is... strange.
That's like what's happened to the accent in massachusetts younger people like myself may have some words and circumstances where you cna hear it but for the most part its gone
In the mountains of western North Carolina, we still say "quar" for "queer" meaning strange. Best part of the video, because at that point I knew it was authentic.
I'm 75. I'm Canadian. If I heard someone say, "He's a queer fellow.", I wouldn't jump to the conclusion the speaker meant someone was gay. Not at all. I would think the person meant the man he was speaking about was peculiar, eccentric, different from other people.
@@dinkster1729I’m a young man and English isn’t my first language (ok, make it quasi-first in terms of proficiency) so I was honestly quite shocked about this. If you looked at the comments, the rest of them, there’s an Englishman whose parents born in the mid 40s use it like you do. So it’s an Anglosphere thing, partially also generational. It had survived in England and has survived in parts of the US (it’s somewhere in the top couple comments at time of writing) as a dialectal word
That's a very Irish thing as well, mostly among rural/farming backgrounds, the word queer pronounced more like "quar", also meaning curious/strange/unusual.
Loved thiis interview! I live on the US for a long time but I am originally from São Paulo, same state of the city of Americana. I knew a lady that was descendant of the confederates that went to Brazil. She was an English teacher that had never been to the US or England and her English was perfect!!
You’re such a gracious interviewer- allowing your guests to be comfortable and be themselves. Thank you for highlighting so many unique communities in our world ♥️
what a fascinating accent. i can hear several different southern accents mixed into one and also a hint of portuguese. sucks that sooner or later, we will lose this...
It'll eventually come back later though. You'll get even weirder mixes you never thought possible. All people do is move around and migrate. In Lousiana for example there is a heavily assimilated Vietnamese community. They are very recent but developing their own food, music, dialect, everything. Its very interesting. The food in particular meshes very well as they are both French based gastronomy. And both some of the earliest forms of fusion food, now fused into a completely new thing. Its pretty amazing actually.
I know what u mean though. My ethnic community is dying out and were losing our language. Were the last people in America that speak colonial Spanish. And its just dying out because so many of the older people insisted we speak English 24/7. They didn't want us to be bilingual like them. But many of us ended up learning Spanish in school which is more Mexican Spanish. Its a very strange thing. Were losing our music too. Yet the food is more popular than ever and continuing to evolve. One of my more favorite recent creations is green chilli cheese burgers. As people continue to exist though, we'll see new communities pop up and evolve. And yes some of them will die out. It's the way of life and history. Sometimes it's war and conquest. Sometimes it's just the younger generations not wanting to embrace who they are.
It’s the phrase “you know” to punctuate a statement that really gets me. I’m from NW GA. That phrase is all over, “yew know” very slowly, and hopefully will never die.
Brazilian speaking here! In the south of Brazil we do have communities that speaks dialets spoke in the past in germany or italy! In other words: the descendents dont even speak Italian or german, but old dialets! Its like frozen in time as they stood in closed rural communities and didnt live the whole movements of wars and post war
There's a film about a woman who left Fogo Island as a teenager and moved with her mother to Argentina because her mother married a sheep farmer there who was also a Newfoundlander. She left during the first World War and still continued to write back to Fogo to a friend and still spoke English her whole life. Her grandchildren didn't continue speaking English, I guess.
I had no idea this existed, incredibly interesting. His english is so good, it definitely helps that he follows american media/culture. His english is better than the spanish of some 1st and 2nd generation spanish speakers in the states. His cadance and sense of humor is intigueingly southern especially "which, what, where, yeaaa, off." it would be amazing to get an interview with his cousin
My mother came from Mexico, her grandfather fought for Virginia at Gettysburg to Appamatox refused to apoligize and got a job surveying for a rail road in Mexico. Met his wife down there and the rest is history.
What an interesting accent and history! My mom lived in Brazil for a while as a teenager, then moved back to her homeland (the Netherlands), it left a deep impression on her. Through my mom I got exposed to some Brazilian culture as well, I feel a connection to the country even though I have never visited there myself.
You'll find all kinds of unique cultural isolates throughout Latin America and especially Brazil. There's a reason so many former Nazis fled to South America and that's because for the longest time, those countries accepted immigrants from just about everywhere regardless of circumstances. They specifically wanted White immigrants because, you know, racism, but you'll find pockets of Japanese, Chinese, Indian/ South Asian, Middle Eastern, just about any other ethnic group with a diaspora. Hell, the Amish have quite a few communities scattered throughout Latin America. One of the most interesting ones to me are the Russian Old Believers. There are a few sizable communities of them in Brazil that still speak Russian the way it was spoken during Tsarist times
Also Jews. Can you imagine, Jews who fled in 1880's to 1930's having in common the same language and culture perhaps with the Nazi's who fled there too and then perhaps meeting? Perhaps even helping them out or employing them?
@@asfd74This situation probably played out a lot in Argentina since it has something like the third largest Jewish diaspora in the world, many of whom were German refugees fleeing the Nazis, and of course, later on the Nazis came right behind them also seeking refuge...
Ari, it's cool watching the evolution of your channel into more of these kinds of videos about language and historical diasporas. Keep up the good work!
He sounds like he has a bayou accent! People from around me sound like that almost. South louisiana. Like wayyy south bottom of the boot. Dulac, point aux chen...
I’m from the Saint Martin/Lafayette parish area and I don’t see where you guys are even getting that from tbh. His accent reminds me of rural Georgians and Alabamans
I love how this kind of feels like French/Quwbecois. The older generstion would say Char like Chariott for Car as they too evolved the language indepedenrly of their language's Countey of origin. So it was ammusing to see how carriage became car in this similar situation.
@ChineseKiwi The whole East Coast + Quebec has a stories history and various linguistic enigmas came about as a result. It's a mélange of different communities evolving in various levels of isolation at different periods of time along with migrations. Acadian French is different from 'Chiac' along with the various influences between Rural and Urban Quebec. Heck, just think about the time period and you can see how French is influenced greatly between regions along waterways (major transport lanes) which would see outsiders and other France French travellers passing through and updating the language vs regions that would have maintained the French that existed when it was settled maybe 100-200 years earlier. Quebecois was also unique with the evolution of Catholic symbols becoming curse words. Then you have Cajuns that are a hybrid of France and Quebec and how that relocation has spawned its own unique flavour. Hell, many of the US accents (southern drawl and twang as examples) were greatly influenced by the mother tongue of the original settlers impacting the speech cadence and rhythm of their English speaking descendants.
If anyone is interested in reading more about this subject, I would recommend “Confederate Exodus: Social and Environmental Forces in the Migration of U.S Southerners to Brazil” by Alan P. Marcus, University of Nebraska Press, c2021.
it would be fascinating to view DNA tests from people across the South whose heritage within the region stretches back at least 200 years to determine how many Southerners are related to one another. Even many blacks, whites, and Indian tribes are blood relations to one another, but they don't know it.
I’m from Alabama and we’d accuse him of being Cajun (from Loo-zee-AN-nuh, Louisiana) or maybe coastal Georgia/South Carolina. Elements of his accent exist in South Alabama, too. It’s not a dead accent. I’ve also heard “queer” to mean simply that someone is odd. Grits, a porridge made of hominy corn, is GOOOOD! Don’t get the sugary, watered down stuff! Get some thick grits flavored with salt, butter, and maybe cheese. If your grits don’t pile up on the spoon, they’re too thin. Add buttermilk biscuits and ham/porkchop/bacon or sausage if you want a yummy meal.
I agree. I grew up in southeast, coastal Georgia and my parents later moved to Louisiana where they lived for 25 yrs. At times his speech reminds me of growing up in Georgia. Especially the way my grandparents and folks of their generation talked. And then he also says things that sound a lot like the Cajun accent I'd hear when visiting my mom & dad in Louisiana. It's definitely an interesting mix.
I love listening to all of the languages Xiaoma speaks and introduces. He made me realize that people are technically all the same regardless of language and there are so many connections that can be made :) Thank you Xiaoma for inspiring me to learn Japanese and Chinese and really enjoy other languages.
Well yeah, we're all the same species... even the anatomically modern humans 250,000 years ago experienced the same emotions and probably had a lot of the same thoughts and experiences that we do...
I'm in Alabama watching this, lol. I know many Nazis were brought to Huntsville post WW2....I myself have descent from German colony in Guatemala, they never learned Spanish either....
Kimberly Conrad Hefner (Hefner's second wife) was from Northern AL and she is the granddaughter of Nazis brought to Northern Alabama born in the 60s. She was named after Kimberly, AL. Their sons describe themselves as Southern even if they were raised in CA and Hefner was from the Midwest. She even fired a butler for observing a Jewish Holiday before she left mansion and moved next door with the kids... Im the grandson of the Nazi generation too and should have also been Gen X also but was born in the early 90s (Millennial), born 2 weeks before Hefner's youngest son...
I live in the Alabama state line lol I live very close to Huntsville actually. This is real history. The people there are fully aware and it means absolutely nothing to them
What a FANTASTIC interview! I consider myself a better than average student of history, yet I had no idea about this migration event. In the U.S., we so typically focus our thinking on how migrant communities come here and hold onto language and culture through generations. Here is an example of "Americans" being the migrants...again, fascinating. Thanks for all the great content!
There's a new film out called "Oh, Canada" about a draft resister who fled to Canada to avoid conscription during the Vietnam War. There were 60,000 people who fled to Canada to avoid American conscription during that dreadful time. I knew some of them. Their descendants live here today. There are also descendants of United Empire Loyalists here in Canada as well. Then, of course, there are American men who married Canadian women and they have children and grandchildren so they'll likely never return to the U.S. to live.
@dinkster1729 Certainly knew about the loyalist refugees after the American Revolution, but hadn't thought about the many who avoided the draft and ended up staying...thanks for that and the film recommendation!
Both of my Dad's Grandfathers fought at Chickamauga. One on one side and one on the other. Amazing they both survived although the Confederate granddad became a POW while the Union granddad marched to Atlanta. I am old and Dad was a late life baby.
10:02 That is so relatable and true! It's impossible to go back to dubbed TV shows and movies after watching the real English versions. This guy is great with a lot of the points he brought up. Very honest and true, while still being kind and acknowledging both sides. As a Brazilian living in the US, it's awesome to see interviews like these.
Sometimes, though, very isolated communities can experience much slower change, retaining a more conservative vibe. But they still have their own natural internal evolution, and are always influenced by surrounding languages
@@TheConcertmaster Yeah! Newfoundland English in the outports in the 1970s and earlier was at first incomprehensible to this Mainlander who was employed as their teacher. LOLOL! I'm sure by the time I finished teaching them my pupils understood standard North American English much better. It's necessary to be bilinugal to have a successful career. There is even an on-line dictionary of Newfoundland English by Dr George Storey. Great book.
Maybe you should know that not far from there, there is another city called Londrina. Which in turn means "little London", and it was founded by British people.
I'm a member of the Sons of Confederate veterans (my great great somethin' ancestors fought the Union), it's super cool to see out culture in such unexpected places. I moved up to the North in 2005, and I was amazed to see so many Southerners and Copperheads up here. Southerners and out traditions really get around!
Fried corn meal mush is incredible! We had it for breakfast - with butter and syrup, but it can be savor as well. Its basically polenta - depending upon the size of the ground grain.
It is interesting that Xiaoma only knows queer as homosexual. That is bexause he is young and language changes. Older Americans. British, and readers of great literature all know the older meaning of queer as strange.
That's fascinating, I only knew the word gay meant happy despite this word still persist in the 1960s. In the last 2 years of me reading as a new hobby, but I haven't reached into such literature yet. Definitely have to catch up on some older books
I’m a young man, and knew of the older meanings first. Probably partially due to older films (Disney and such) and children’s books, but my parents never really used those words at all. I don’t think it was until middle school when I learned their current meanings from long Wikipedia browsing (my main form of self-directed supplementary education back then). Catholic upbringing is probably what took it so long.
@@DiamondKingStudios Older Disney works? Oh, that's like half my childhood too! My memory's a bit hazy from back then, though. I might need to binge watch the classics again. I missed all the "big words," but somehow, I still managed to pick up the basics subconsciously from watching so many movies. Kinda strange, right? (And yeah, I worded it like that because I was hinting this is my second language that I never intended to learn) I got an unexpected book with plenty of big words and some might say dated expressions, it was a George Soros Book! Damn! I did not expect that guy to write it like some early 1900s books I've got access to (digitally)
@@MaseraSteve He was born in 1930; it wouldn’t be surprising at all if he has been writing for seventy years, especially in a university context (you basically have to write something to get your foot in the door in academia).
_Queer_ in the sense of "strange, odd" isn't listed as "dated" in the dictionary. It's rare now, for sure, but my grandma (born in the 1940s) occasionally uses it and I grew up in the 1990s knowing it had that meaning.
Few people know the history of these Confederate migrants. They came to Brazil after the Civil War because the U.S. had abolished slavery, and Brazil was the last country in the Western Hemisphere that still practiced it. They believed they could continue their plantations peacefully here, but just a few years later, we abolished slavery too 😆
Actually, no, slavery played no part in that. The Confederates came because D. Pedro II, the Brazilian Emperor, was offering cheap/free land, free trade, and a good degree of decentralization. Basically, the Empire was looking outward to increase the local population and benefit from foreign cheap labor. As a result, U.S. Confederates came, founded the city of Americana, and enjoyed relative isolation and government support. Only a handful of very rich Confederates actually bought slaves, but they deemed it a lost "cause." They had no power or influence in this new land, and abolitionism was a heated topic at the time. In fact, just five years after the first Confederate stepped foot in the country, the "Law of Free Birth" was enacted, declaring that every child born to a slave would be a free person. Another thing to note is that 99% of the Confederates in Brazil were just families trying to survive, as most had lost their farms in the war. In Brazil, they couldn't even bury their dead in local cemeteries because they were not Catholic. Their knowledge of cotton farming, however, earned them favors and money that they couldn't have back in the U.S. This was much more enticing than trying to buy slaves, which would have put them in the spot and risked being raided by abolitonists and be watched by local law enforcement.
@nathan_408 You are ignorant of history because, like most government-schooled, mind-controlled students/adults in the USA, have purposely been taught just the opposite of true history. Most Southerners did not like nor want slavery; they wanted the negroes returned to their origin of birth. Only land masters, few in number, wanted slavery but the normal, average, hard-working USA citizen wanted only to have the freedoms and liberties afforded by the Law of the Land, and most of all, they wanted land ownership which was promulgated by the Constitution and Declaration. The enemies have taken over the USA while the people were being mind-controlled by Marxist propaganda.
I had an American boyfriend who because of employment had to live in Europe on 2 separate occasions. He preferred his time in Finland because the American movies there were subtitled to his time in Germany where the American movies were dubbed. He couldn't understand those movies in Germany at all.
Very fascinating to me. I’m an American who lived in Brazil during the 80s. I had knowledge that American Confederates came to Brazil after the war but had no idea that there were any descendants still speaking English and cooking southern foods. I would have loved to have met them. His English is very good and I can tell you that it’s not the typical Brazilian accent that I’m familiar with having listened to many Brazilians who had learned English. BTW, as an historical aside, the Confederates must have been quite disappointed when in 1888 (I believe that’s the year) the king of Brazil emancipated the slaves without one shot being fired.
The southern resistance was about property rights and state sovereignty, not slavery- it would have died a naturally political death as it did in Great Britain. So the cause of civil war is a misnomer, just one of conquest by one against another.
@@HelenRundell Slaves were property. Slavery wasn't dying, in fact the Southern party in Congress (the Kansas-Nebraska Act of 1854, overturning the Missouri Compromise of 1820) had just won a major political victory by getting slavery extended to the new central states.
Fascinating! I'm glad you found this gentleman so we can hear his story. By "hear," I mean both the history of his ancestors, his life, and his accent.
Him hating Portuguese dub is so based lol. I am Spanish and I despise watching things dubbed into Spanish. I can maybe handle watching animation dubbed, but anything live action is an absolute no.
I'm a Brazilian, and here in my house, we never watch anything dubbed. That's how I learn English. Even when I watched Peppa Pig with my daughter, we watched it in English to teach her, and today she can even watch American RUclipsrs without any problem.
and then there's older material that's still using the vintage dubs from the 70's and 80's (you think I wouldn't watch something like Coco in Spanish?), and they just didn't pick dubbers that went with the characters. they all sounded like parodies by comedians. combine that with the meh quality of old dubs... i know just enough spanish and french to be able to spot the word changes, and do the same as a lot of other's do: put it on to learn a bit of the language.
As a Brazilian, it’s so cool to learn about this. Although I know we’re a crazy mix of cultures and ethnicities I never knew about the confederates who fled to Brazil in the 1800s. Truly fascinating, thanks for sharing!
My guy says "I don't speak much English" and I haven't been to the states in 20 years. Dude speaks English 1000% better than most immigrants who have lived in the states for 20+ years...
He grew up speaking it or at least learned young and had a lot of people to speak English with when he was younger. I do agree with your statement though.
There is a very famous brazilian singer called Rita Lee. Her parents (or grandparents - I'm not sure right now) were confederates who migrated to Brazil and her father decided to pick Lee as family name for all his children born in Brazil as a tribute to General Lee
That exasperated sigh when asked what he thought of Americans ahahahahaha I could feel the deflation and resignation expressed by his very soul through the screen and speakers XD
5:08 "but I understood everything the hell they said". wow, very old-school southern sounding to me. "everything the hell they said" and the inflection at the end of that phrase. this is fascinating
I’m a Brazilian that immigrated to the US when I was 13 years old. This is one of the most interesting and endearing interviews I’ve watched in a while. I had no idea that some southerners immigrated to Brazil back then. Wow. This was really cool. Thanks for sharing!
The diversity of the Brasilian population would astound most anyone who never spent time there. I worked there for 10 years and by the end of the 2nd year I had a whole new understanding of the uniqueness of Brasil. Its an amazingly place.
I'm a Brazilian/American. What you said goes both ways. Leaving here in the US over 30 years. I see the things problably the same way you see about Brasil.
The problem is that that diversity cannot be maintained. This video is a perfect example of that. The Confederate immigrants and their communities are vanishing and almost gone. The same is true of the German-Brazilian communities, and other groups. They would have to be contained for them to survive. Look at the United States. There was thriving German, Irish, Italian, and Dutch communities. Now all those communities are gone. There are very few native-born American German speakers, or Irish speakers etc. The Germans make up the largest single ethnic group in the United States, but even they were not able to hold on to their German-ness. In Germany itself the level of diversity is pretty incredible. You could drive an hour and be in a different dialect region, and the words for common items would be different. You could drive an hour and not even understand what people are saying, because of their distinct dialect. A Bavarian gentleman tried to talk to me and I could not understand a word. Every region has its own cuisine differences, and traditional clothing differences, their own beer. In East-Frisia there is a strong tea culture. In Hessia there is a strong cider culture, in Rhineland there is a strong wine culture, and in Bavaria there is a very strong beer culture. I think globalization puts even these multiple hundreds of years of cultural development, and distinctions under threat. Keep in mind Germany is today only the size of Montana, yet there is so much there culturally, and linguistically between the different regions of the Germanic people. I would be interested in seeing the German settlement in Brazil, but from what I have seen most people do not even speak German there anymore, and have intermarried, and there is not a lot left of substance, other than people talking in Portuguese about their German ancestors.
@leviturner3265 well when I went to those areas about 7 years ago there were German speakers and street signs everywhere. Eventually all of thise things will change. If we went back far enough in history the same would be said for how these places that we see as traditional were unrecognizable to people from even 100 years ago. Some of these areas were nothing like they are before WW2. The Middle East borders and populations were very different prior to WW2 and different even before WW1. American settlements changed dramatically after the Civil War and again after the industrial revolution. English as it was written and spoken 200 years ago is hard for many of today's people to comprehend. There are words and traditions we see now that we didn't have when I was a kid. It's a constant evolution.
@@leviturner3265 This is the natural law, integration while maintaining the love for the culture of the ancestors. The same happened with the Germans (now French) of the French Rhine region, with the European Jews now in Israel, with the English who populated the USA and the Iberians who populated South America, etc.
SUPER INTERESTING! We live in Tn and are studying civil war right now, reading Co. Aytch, a civil war soldier's account. HIghly recommend. We are about 45-60 min from Alabama.
This is very fascinating. This reminds me of that 1 guy and his wife out in New Mexico or Arizona or something. Him and his wife can trace their ancestry in the US back to before the US spanned from coast to coast. Their families are descendants of the Mexicans that inhabited the US SW region when it was still Mexican territory. He and his wife still speak Spanish to each other. They sound very Mexican, but the accent is ever so slightly off.
Southern Ohioian here. My mom born in the 1920’s (her parents were Victorians born in the 1880’s) used queer for strange, gay for happy and hickey for pimple.
Yes! Don we now our gay apparel, fa la la, la la la, la la la. A little Deck the Halls, anyone. Had the word queer in spelling and English (1976). And my Mom used to use the word hickey. I’m 58 and from Northeast Ohio.
Interesting conversation! I would be very curious about his and his family’s religion. Many gloss over this part of history, but Protestant in general, especially in the South were not fans of Catholics (to put it mildly). His family was most likely Protestant and they moved to a very Catholic country. There were probably not too many Protestants living in Brazil in the 1880s. How did that work out? He brings up the Irish (Catholic) and Halloween. He is obviously not a fan of Halloween. (The holiday Halloween means All Hallows Eve 10/31, All Saints Day 11/1, All Souls Day 11/2 - Catholic Holy Days.) Maybe if you talk to him again you could ask about his family’s religion and Brazil.
Well to be fair, we don't celebrate Halloween as Americans do at all in Brazil. Catholics observe All Hallow's Eve as per the liturgical calendar of the Church but we don't dress up and do trick or treating or anything of the sort. I believe this may be what he was referring to.
@@willl676It wasn't celebrated by Newfoundland Protestant children the way we do here either. In 1970, I taught school in a small outport. We did have a Hallowe'en party in the school, but there were no jack o'lanterns carved by the families and no trick or treating. The "youngsters" did wear costumes at school that day. Guy Fawkes Day was celebrated though. it's in November? It's called Bonfire Night and no mention is made of Guy Fawkes or the Gunpowder Plot.
Wow, his accent isn't that different from mine lol. It's incredible how accents can travel like in this man's story. Thanks for sharing--I had no clue this was a thing.
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Fled? No they didn’t flee, they were welcomed to stay in the United States and integrate back into American society. They chose not too. Change the video name.
better than TEMU
The cadence of his speech is so uniquely southern in a very old timey way. Listen to early interviews of southerners who lived through the civil war. Eerie but very cool.
reminds me of watching Darby o'gill and the little people.
His accent sounds like all my older relatives ❤️
You guys are acting like people don't still talk like this. Not sure you guys even live in the area. He has a classic South Carolina accent. Go listen to the football player Xavier Legette he also sounds like this. I'm not saying it's not a cool accent, I live in the area as well I don't sound this country but you guys are acting like it's gone or something making it more rare than it actually is lol.
@@SmokyOleit’s southern mixed with Brazilian
@@SmokyOle not necessarily rare but 160 years in isolation this accent survived? That's nuts. This speech cadence/accent doesn't exist where I live but I know South Carolina has some crazy accents. But this dude's ancestry isn't South Carolina, it's Alabama.
Hey, first-generation Brazilian-American here. The 'Confederados' culture kind of died off back in the 70s-80s, as the 2nd and 3rd generations, who were the last to still grow up isolated, started passing away. After that, only a very small group remained in the area. It is quite a dead culture nowadays. Apart from some old people, almost all descendants are now fully integrated into Brazilian society and no longer practice their Southern traditions. Most of them do not speak English. My grandpa was appointed as the U.S. general consul in São Paulo back in the 60s, and even though he was a Yankee, I remember him talking kindly about the Confederados and mentioning that they were already struggling to maintain their heritage. He helped them with some funding for the maintenance of their graveyard.
Did they go to Brazil 15:57 to continue profiting off of slaves and cotton? Also, if you’re first generation Brazilian-American and your grandfather a yankee, I assume you were raised in Brazil? Do you have a yankee accent?
@@Lex_Lugar As I mentioned, my grandfather was appointed consul in São Paulo and came to Brazil in the 60s with the whole family (including my mom). They stayed here for about 10 years until my grandfather took on other roles at the U.S. State Department and moved back to Washington. My mom was born and spent her childhood in NY, lived a few years in Brazil, and returned to the U.S. with my grandfather to study (Columbia University). That’s where she met my dad (also from NY). When my grandfather decided to retire in Brazil, they took the chance and moved here together in the 80s. I was born and raised in Brazil, spent a few years in NY and LA, and yes, my accent leans more towards NY. Regarding the Confederados and slavery, as far as I know, yes, they came to Brazil with the promise of profiting from the same plantation system they had in the Southern states. However, it backfired. They were tricked by local slave owners and ended up having to work the land themselves.
Did they ever invite you to a hoe-down?
@@murua1234how were they tricked exactly?
My ancestor came from the South to Americana/Santa Bárbara. Henry agarrar Steagal, the Demarets too, all combat veterans.
Imagine taking a vacation to Brazil and hearing somebody in earshot say "AH DOOO DECLAYUH"
😂😂😂😂😂😂
You got me 🤣🤣🤣
😂
I would be shocked and I'm not going to lie, rather disappointed to see him and not Foghorn Leghorn!
Bro how in God’s name do you remember how to type in your username
This guy needs to spend more time in the rural South. He won’t feel like the only one that speaks like that anymore.
He sounds just like everyone I grew up around in Wilkes county NC!😂
Oh yeah, if you go to rural towns in NC & SC, they'd make this dude seem like he was talking "correct" English!! I'm from a small town in SC where there still only lives 100 ppl--it's called Lowndesville. I graduated with the same 40 ppl I began kindergarten with (I'm 46)! I moved away at 20 & live in Denver, NC. All my family still live there though. Being 3 hrs away makes me feel like I've moved to NYC, visiting makes me feel like I'm going to Mayberry....for real! I had to get away from there--being a trans/non-binary individual surrounded by folks dressed head to toe in camo who drive big trucks adorned with confederate flag crap doesn't make one feel very safe!!! Take care!
@@skully6223did you become trans there or when you moved away?
@@skully6223 this was going all well until the end
@@ADJackD gonna cry ?
The mix of his Brazilian Portuguese and his Southern US English comes out like a Southern Louisiana accent to my ears.
Yes!
I from very south Louisiana and I can definitely hear the resemblance
Accurateb
I am from southern Louisiana, and I agree with you.
Completely. My husband is from Baton Rouge and he sounds just like an old guy from over there…
Daniel, who is interviewed here, is one of my many cousins in Brazil. My great-great-grandparents and great-grandparents moved to Brasil from the American South and lived in the state of São Paulo. My grandmother and father were born in Americana, SP. My father was allowed to speak only English at home. I was born in the city of São Paulo but have lived in the U.S. most of my life. Tenho muitas saudades da minha família no Brasil!
Your ancestors were right.
Venha fazer uma visita!
@@cristinavillar5196 Meu coração sempre fica no Brasil!
Are you guys by any chance related to Rita Lee?
@@bmaiamusic Yes. Her father and my father were first cousins.
One of the most famous singers in Brazil is called Rita Lee Jones. She is a Confederate descendent. "Lee" is a homage to General Lee. Was shocked when I found out.
Growing up in Virginia in the 60s it seems like about half the people (women and men both) had Lee as a middle name.
He must've been a big fan of the Dukes of Hazzard.
*foi (was)
tá morta D.E.P 🪦 😔
General Lee was a good man. Read about him. Just because he was the general of the Confederate army does not make him a racist monster. Washington DC asked him to be their general first before they asked the other guy. But Lee declined because he was from VA and he would essentially be against his own state who has sided with the Confederates. Back then your state meant way more than the federal government. Different times. But Lee was for the end of slavery thinking it had to happen. So as someone who loves history, with an open mind from the Millennial generation, I'd have to say Lee was a good name to give your children. It honored a man who was an honorable soldier and a gentleman.
@@hannahlamppin7477 - and Lee asked the Confederate Congress to grant freedom to slaves who were fighting in the Confederate armies.
Almost Cajun like accent. Very interesting
thought the exact same thing. 🍻
I thought the exact same! Being from Louisiana, I would swear he was also from there.
That's what I kept thinking listening to him. Sounded like my uncle. North Louisiana.
"Woooooim boutta make a name for my self ere"
It’s fascinating. Cajun from Louisiana here. And I actually thought there are verrrry slight things he does in his speech which sounds cajun as well. But not completely. Just some (not all) vowels .
I am a Cajun from south Louisiana. It’s indescribable but there are some consonants and vowels he makes that sound so very Cajun. But still obviously a ”Latin” accent. I’ve never heard someone sound so Cajun without sounding Cajun before.
That's exactly what I was thinking. He sounds like a Cajun from Louisiana. Makes sense, from the mix of influences (French, Spanish, Anglo-Irish, etc).
Yeah I was thinking the same.
Same. It was immediate.
That's exactly what I was thinking
I’m originally from Central Louisiana, and his accent is so familiar
0:40
“My English is a little rusty”
**Precedes to speak flawless country-bumpkin English**
Proceeds*
Irony
He doesn't sound like anyone I've ever heard from the south, he sounds like someone from Louisiana sorta.
@@joegartland
Dang, you’re correct! I did use the wrong word there…
@@timr86868 that french sound associated with portuguese may make it sound like that! so interesting
@@theparadigm8149 point being he doesn't sound like a "country bumpkin" he sounds like a guy from Louisiana... country bumpkin would be like Georgia, TN, KY, WV.
also, just FYI... Louisiana isn't part of the south, just like Texas isn't. it's on its own
Queer is still a nomal word widely used to mean strange in England. Especially in the north.
how queer!
Used to be common parlance in American English until it was co-opted.
I read a book by Agatha Christie these days. Why didn't they ask Evans. Released I 1934, I think. She must have used the word queer 40 times or more. I chuckled a few times. The same with gay in old movies. Men saying "I'm feeling so gay".
I remember that word still had it's normal meaning as late as the 1990s (at least in Texas). It was a pejorative way to call somebody "weird". Then by the 2000s the word had been taken over by the rainbow flag community.
I remember it being used by my grandparents with its original meaning in the 70s. The euphemistic usage is older than you might think, but it didn't become the main usage in the US until the 80s, depending on the region.
i live in western north carolina and his accent is _trippin'_ me out... it's not consistent, but certain words and inflections are *very* recognizable southern drawl. so, to hear it so infrequently as he's speaking is... strange.
I grew up in southern VA and it reminded me a lot as well, trippy
That's like what's happened to the accent in massachusetts younger people like myself may have some words and circumstances where you cna hear it but for the most part its gone
He said “Cracker Barrel” better than Xiaomanyc lol.
“Cuhhsin” 😂
I live where you do and I thought the same thing. An exotic mixture.
In the mountains of western North Carolina, we still say "quar" for "queer" meaning strange. Best part of the video, because at that point I knew it was authentic.
I'm 75. I'm Canadian. If I heard someone say, "He's a queer fellow.", I wouldn't jump to the conclusion the speaker meant someone was gay. Not at all. I would think the person meant the man he was speaking about was peculiar, eccentric, different from other people.
@@dinkster1729I’m a young man and English isn’t my first language (ok, make it quasi-first in terms of proficiency) so I was honestly quite shocked about this. If you looked at the comments, the rest of them, there’s an Englishman whose parents born in the mid 40s use it like you do. So it’s an Anglosphere thing, partially also generational. It had survived in England and has survived in parts of the US (it’s somewhere in the top couple comments at time of writing) as a dialectal word
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That's a very Irish thing as well, mostly among rural/farming backgrounds, the word queer pronounced more like "quar", also meaning curious/strange/unusual.
Older folks used to say "qware".
Loved thiis interview! I live on the US for a long time but I am originally from São Paulo, same state of the city of Americana. I knew a lady that was descendant of the confederates that went to Brazil. She was an English teacher that had never been to the US or England and her English was perfect!!
You’re such a gracious interviewer- allowing your guests to be comfortable and be themselves. Thank you for highlighting so many unique communities in our world ♥️
what a fascinating accent. i can hear several different southern accents mixed into one and also a hint of portuguese. sucks that sooner or later, we will lose this...
It'll eventually come back later though. You'll get even weirder mixes you never thought possible. All people do is move around and migrate.
In Lousiana for example there is a heavily assimilated Vietnamese community. They are very recent but developing their own food, music, dialect, everything. Its very interesting. The food in particular meshes very well as they are both French based gastronomy. And both some of the earliest forms of fusion food, now fused into a completely new thing. Its pretty amazing actually.
I know what u mean though. My ethnic community is dying out and were losing our language. Were the last people in America that speak colonial Spanish. And its just dying out because so many of the older people insisted we speak English 24/7. They didn't want us to be bilingual like them. But many of us ended up learning Spanish in school which is more Mexican Spanish.
Its a very strange thing. Were losing our music too. Yet the food is more popular than ever and continuing to evolve.
One of my more favorite recent creations is green chilli cheese burgers.
As people continue to exist though, we'll see new communities pop up and evolve. And yes some of them will die out. It's the way of life and history.
Sometimes it's war and conquest. Sometimes it's just the younger generations not wanting to embrace who they are.
But luckily this youtuber managed to register the accent of this man on his video, thank goodness!
Almost a Cajun tinge to his voice.
Nah bruh
Cajun is closer to Portugal Portuguese than it is to French, imo.
It’s the phrase “you know” to punctuate a statement that really gets me. I’m from NW GA. That phrase is all over, “yew know” very slowly, and hopefully will never die.
That phrase is all over the US. It’s not regional at all.
@ Ok and?
Brazilian speaking here! In the south of Brazil we do have communities that speaks dialets spoke in the past in germany or italy! In other words: the descendents dont even speak Italian or german, but old dialets! Its like frozen in time as they stood in closed rural communities and didnt live the whole movements of wars and post war
Brasil never stops surprising me,
Wait until you learn what happened in Argentina.
yes they have a big Japanese community for instance
The largest Italian and Lebanese diasporas are in Brazil as well.
@@rsuman I can confirm that
@@geigertec5921yes ..I heard
English here. My grandparents’ generation (born 1920s) would still use “queer” to mean odd as would my parents (born mid ‘40s).
Me, too!
Mine did too (born 1920's)
Growing up in the 1970s, "queer" could mean odd or gay, depending on context. In the 60s "gay" still meant happy.
I still use it to mean "odd"... and I'm a zoomer. honestly the comments on this video acting like it's out of fashion are a surprise to me
Queer still means strange. I’ve used it. Let’s not give in to this co-opting.
this was such a pleasure to watch... wasn't expecting to be so captivated by this casual conversation.. this guy is cool :D
Me too! I randomly happened upon this video and just couldn’t turn it off.
As someone who was born in Brazil, from a family from southern Spain, and raised in Las Vegas - NV, I find this absolutely fascinating!
My family is from a part of Argentina where they speak English with a distinct British accent.
There's a film about a woman who left Fogo Island as a teenager and moved with her mother to Argentina because her mother married a sheep farmer there who was also a Newfoundlander. She left during the first World War and still continued to write back to Fogo to a friend and still spoke English her whole life. Her grandchildren didn't continue speaking English, I guess.
I was born in Georgia and live in South Carolina, he sounds normal to me...😮
Exactly,he sounds like he has a rural Georgian accent
this is interesting. And it makes historical sense.
He sounds like he is saying Jahrja for Georgia.
I had no idea this existed, incredibly interesting. His english is so good, it definitely helps that he follows american media/culture. His english is better than the spanish of some 1st and 2nd generation spanish speakers in the states. His cadance and sense of humor is intigueingly southern especially "which, what, where, yeaaa, off." it would be amazing to get an interview with his cousin
My mother came from Mexico, her grandfather fought for Virginia at Gettysburg to Appamatox refused to apoligize and got a job surveying for a rail road in Mexico. Met his wife down there and the rest is history.
The guys, English is amazing 👏....massive respect 🙏....
What an interesting accent and history! My mom lived in Brazil for a while as a teenager, then moved back to her homeland (the Netherlands), it left a deep impression on her. Through my mom I got exposed to some Brazilian culture as well, I feel a connection to the country even though I have never visited there myself.
Come to brasil 🇧🇷🇧🇷
You'll find all kinds of unique cultural isolates throughout Latin America and especially Brazil. There's a reason so many former Nazis fled to South America and that's because for the longest time, those countries accepted immigrants from just about everywhere regardless of circumstances. They specifically wanted White immigrants because, you know, racism, but you'll find pockets of Japanese, Chinese, Indian/ South Asian, Middle Eastern, just about any other ethnic group with a diaspora. Hell, the Amish have quite a few communities scattered throughout Latin America. One of the most interesting ones to me are the Russian Old Believers. There are a few sizable communities of them in Brazil that still speak Russian the way it was spoken during Tsarist times
those very diaspora have not made progress other than the spainard/Portuguese
Also Jews. Can you imagine, Jews who fled in 1880's to 1930's having in common the same language and culture perhaps with the Nazi's who fled there too and then perhaps meeting? Perhaps even helping them out or employing them?
@@asfd74This situation probably played out a lot in Argentina since it has something like the third largest Jewish diaspora in the world, many of whom were German refugees fleeing the Nazis, and of course, later on the Nazis came right behind them also seeking refuge...
The first wave of German immigrants came to Brazil in the 1820's, almost120 years before the birth of some Nazi ideology in Germany.
Ari, it's cool watching the evolution of your channel into more of these kinds of videos about language and historical diasporas. Keep up the good work!
this unreal who knew, few minutes in such a good watch so far
He sounds like he has a bayou accent! People from around me sound like that almost.
South louisiana. Like wayyy south bottom of the boot. Dulac, point aux chen...
Yep. Crowley, Duson, Ville Platte. My fam is from around those areas and they got that heavy Cajun accent too.
I’m from the Saint Martin/Lafayette parish area and I don’t see where you guys are even getting that from tbh. His accent reminds me of rural Georgians and Alabamans
Makes sense because of the Spanish influence on southern English.
@Dragoncam13 you gotta come down here and go allll the way down the bayou and listen to the maw maw and paw paws then you'll hear it. Lol
I love how this kind of feels like French/Quwbecois. The older generstion would say Char like Chariott for Car as they too evolved the language indepedenrly of their language's Countey of origin. So it was ammusing to see how carriage became car in this similar situation.
Arcadian influence?
@ChineseKiwi The whole East Coast + Quebec has a stories history and various linguistic enigmas came about as a result. It's a mélange of different communities evolving in various levels of isolation at different periods of time along with migrations. Acadian French is different from 'Chiac' along with the various influences between Rural and Urban Quebec. Heck, just think about the time period and you can see how French is influenced greatly between regions along waterways (major transport lanes) which would see outsiders and other France French travellers passing through and updating the language vs regions that would have maintained the French that existed when it was settled maybe 100-200 years earlier.
Quebecois was also unique with the evolution of Catholic symbols becoming curse words.
Then you have Cajuns that are a hybrid of France and Quebec and how that relocation has spawned its own unique flavour. Hell, many of the US accents (southern drawl and twang as examples) were greatly influenced by the mother tongue of the original settlers impacting the speech cadence and rhythm of their English speaking descendants.
@@JRuni0r Oh that's interesting! You mean the holy items aren't used as profanity in France French - only in Quebec French?
this Xiaoma x Peter Falk interview is wild
I was thinking Tim Heidecker and George Lucas
If anyone is interested in reading more about this subject, I would recommend “Confederate Exodus: Social and Environmental Forces in the Migration of U.S Southerners to Brazil” by Alan P. Marcus, University of Nebraska Press, c2021.
Incredible. My family fled to Florida from Alabama after the war... could be distant cousins!
it would be fascinating to view DNA tests from people across the South whose heritage within the region stretches back at least 200 years to determine how many Southerners are related to one another. Even many blacks, whites, and Indian tribes are blood relations to one another, but they don't know it.
I’m from Alabama and we’d accuse him of being Cajun (from Loo-zee-AN-nuh, Louisiana) or maybe coastal Georgia/South Carolina. Elements of his accent exist in South Alabama, too. It’s not a dead accent. I’ve also heard “queer” to mean simply that someone is odd.
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I agree. I grew up in southeast, coastal Georgia and my parents later moved to Louisiana where they lived for 25 yrs. At times his speech reminds me of growing up in Georgia. Especially the way my grandparents and folks of their generation talked. And then he also says things that sound a lot like the Cajun accent I'd hear when visiting my mom & dad in Louisiana. It's definitely an interesting mix.
I love listening to all of the languages Xiaoma speaks and introduces. He made me realize that people are technically all the same regardless of language and there are so many connections that can be made :) Thank you Xiaoma for inspiring me to learn Japanese and Chinese and really enjoy other languages.
Well yeah, we're all the same species... even the anatomically modern humans 250,000 years ago experienced the same emotions and probably had a lot of the same thoughts and experiences that we do...
I'm in Alabama watching this, lol. I know many Nazis were brought to Huntsville post WW2....I myself have descent from German colony in Guatemala, they never learned Spanish either....
Source of natzis brought to Alabama???
@@Darkbluedevil Operation Paperclip
Kimberly Conrad Hefner (Hefner's second wife) was from Northern AL and she is the granddaughter of Nazis brought to Northern Alabama born in the 60s. She was named after Kimberly, AL. Their sons describe themselves as Southern even if they were raised in CA and Hefner was from the Midwest. She even fired a butler for observing a Jewish Holiday before she left mansion and moved next door with the kids...
Im the grandson of the Nazi generation too and should have also been Gen X also but was born in the early 90s (Millennial), born 2 weeks before Hefner's youngest son...
My uncle worked at nasa for 40 years and got super mad when I asked him about operation paperclip. Lol
I live in the Alabama state line lol I live very close to Huntsville actually. This is real history. The people there are fully aware and it means absolutely nothing to them
What a FANTASTIC interview! I consider myself a better than average student of history, yet I had no idea about this migration event. In the U.S., we so typically focus our thinking on how migrant communities come here and hold onto language and culture through generations. Here is an example of "Americans" being the migrants...again, fascinating. Thanks for all the great content!
There's a new film out called "Oh, Canada" about a draft resister who fled to Canada to avoid conscription during the Vietnam War. There were 60,000 people who fled to Canada to avoid American conscription during that dreadful time. I knew some of them. Their descendants live here today. There are also descendants of United Empire Loyalists here in Canada as well. Then, of course, there are American men who married Canadian women and they have children and grandchildren so they'll likely never return to the U.S. to live.
@dinkster1729 Certainly knew about the loyalist refugees after the American Revolution, but hadn't thought about the many who avoided the draft and ended up staying...thanks for that and the film recommendation!
I am from Americana, Brazil. Great interview.
I loved this, please get his cousin on too!
I bet most Americans have never even heard of the Battle of Chickamauga, even though it was 2nd deadliest battle of the civil war.
Corey Ryan Forrester told us about this 😂
Wow i didn't know rest of the world know that battle
Both of my Dad's Grandfathers fought at Chickamauga. One on one side and one on the other. Amazing they both survived although the Confederate granddad became a POW while the Union granddad marched to Atlanta. I am old and Dad was a late life baby.
I hope most people in Georgia, Alabama, and Tennessee would be aware of it, being from GA myself.
I had ... let's see ... several older brothers of one great-great-grandfather, if I've got it figured correctly - who died there.
This guy is great. He would do well in Bensonhurst Brooklyn.
What a cool conversation. And an interesting life. He cracked me up .
10:02 That is so relatable and true! It's impossible to go back to dubbed TV shows and movies after watching the real English versions. This guy is great with a lot of the points he brought up. Very honest and true, while still being kind and acknowledging both sides. As a Brazilian living in the US, it's awesome to see interviews like these.
I definitely wouldnt say this is the same as 1865 english, it evolved for the same amount of time as ours has
Sometimes, though, very isolated communities can experience much slower change, retaining a more conservative vibe. But they still have their own natural internal evolution, and are always influenced by surrounding languages
@@HuckleberryHim Exactly this. The key ingredient here is isolation.
@@TheConcertmaster Yeah! Newfoundland English in the outports in the 1970s and earlier was at first incomprehensible to this Mainlander who was employed as their teacher. LOLOL! I'm sure by the time I finished teaching them my pupils understood standard North American English much better. It's necessary to be bilinugal to have a successful career. There is even an on-line dictionary of Newfoundland English by Dr George Storey. Great book.
Maybe you should know that not far from there, there is another city called Londrina. Which in turn means "little London", and it was founded by British people.
I'm a member of the Sons of Confederate veterans (my great great somethin' ancestors fought the Union), it's super cool to see out culture in such unexpected places. I moved up to the North in 2005, and I was amazed to see so many Southerners and Copperheads up here. Southerners and out traditions really get around!
That sounds like something to really be proud of 🙄
@@KMx108 Sure is. Be mad, Idgaf.
Yet they still remain.
@@joe5923 Totally. It's great.
@@ShellShock11C fyi an eye roll isn't anger
There are hints of Louisiana accent in there too. Very unique and interesting.
That's what I thought too. Some Cajun sound just like that!
Fried corn meal mush is incredible! We had it for breakfast - with butter and syrup, but it can be savor as well. Its basically polenta - depending upon the size of the ground grain.
It’s funny how the guys cat is photobombing him. It even looks like it’s listening and critiquing what he’s saying 😂
Cat is calculating how the Confederacy will rise again in Brazil.
It is interesting that Xiaoma only knows queer as homosexual. That is bexause he is young and language changes. Older Americans. British, and readers of great literature all know the older meaning of queer as strange.
My little horse must think it queer to stop without a farmhouse near
That's fascinating, I only knew the word gay meant happy despite this word still persist in the 1960s. In the last 2 years of me reading as a new hobby, but I haven't reached into such literature yet. Definitely have to catch up on some older books
I’m a young man, and knew of the older meanings first. Probably partially due to older films (Disney and such) and children’s books, but my parents never really used those words at all. I don’t think it was until middle school when I learned their current meanings from long Wikipedia browsing (my main form of self-directed supplementary education back then). Catholic upbringing is probably what took it so long.
@@DiamondKingStudios Older Disney works? Oh, that's like half my childhood too! My memory's a bit hazy from back then, though. I might need to binge watch the classics again. I missed all the "big words," but somehow, I still managed to pick up the basics subconsciously from watching so many movies. Kinda strange, right? (And yeah, I worded it like that because I was hinting this is my second language that I never intended to learn) I got an unexpected book with plenty of big words and some might say dated expressions, it was a George Soros Book! Damn! I did not expect that guy to write it like some early 1900s books I've got access to (digitally)
@@MaseraSteve He was born in 1930; it wouldn’t be surprising at all if he has been writing for seventy years, especially in a university context (you basically have to write something to get your foot in the door in academia).
_Queer_ in the sense of "strange, odd" isn't listed as "dated" in the dictionary. It's rare now, for sure, but my grandma (born in the 1940s) occasionally uses it and I grew up in the 1990s knowing it had that meaning.
Fascinating interview. Thank you so much!
Few people know the history of these Confederate migrants. They came to Brazil after the Civil War because the U.S. had abolished slavery, and Brazil was the last country in the Western Hemisphere that still practiced it. They believed they could continue their plantations peacefully here, but just a few years later, we abolished slavery too 😆
Haha, I was wondering if it was something like this.
Actually, no, slavery played no part in that. The Confederates came because D. Pedro II, the Brazilian Emperor, was offering cheap/free land, free trade, and a good degree of decentralization. Basically, the Empire was looking outward to increase the local population and benefit from foreign cheap labor. As a result, U.S. Confederates came, founded the city of Americana, and enjoyed relative isolation and government support. Only a handful of very rich Confederates actually bought slaves, but they deemed it a lost "cause." They had no power or influence in this new land, and abolitionism was a heated topic at the time. In fact, just five years after the first Confederate stepped foot in the country, the "Law of Free Birth" was enacted, declaring that every child born to a slave would be a free person. Another thing to note is that 99% of the Confederates in Brazil were just families trying to survive, as most had lost their farms in the war. In Brazil, they couldn't even bury their dead in local cemeteries because they were not Catholic. Their knowledge of cotton farming, however, earned them favors and money that they couldn't have back in the U.S. This was much more enticing than trying to buy slaves, which would have put them in the spot and risked being raided by abolitonists and be watched by local law enforcement.
@fernandoaleixo7477 these confederate traitors wanted to continue chattel slavery in Brazil
@@fernandoaleixo7477 You are 100% correct.
@nathan_408 You are ignorant of history because, like most government-schooled, mind-controlled students/adults in the USA, have purposely been taught just the opposite of true history. Most Southerners did not like nor want slavery; they wanted the negroes returned to their origin of birth. Only land masters, few in number, wanted slavery but the normal, average, hard-working USA citizen wanted only to have the freedoms and liberties afforded by the Law of the Land, and most of all, they wanted land ownership which was promulgated by the Constitution and Declaration. The enemies have taken over the USA while the people were being mind-controlled by Marxist propaganda.
He's a living language time capsule. Incredible.
It's interesting to catch the words that are most inflected, like "die hard," "Jefferson Davis," "Georgia," "I never," etc.
I never thought I'd relate so much to this guy, subs over dubs ALWAYS
I had an American boyfriend who because of employment had to live in Europe on 2 separate occasions. He preferred his time in Finland because the American movies there were subtitled to his time in Germany where the American movies were dubbed. He couldn't understand those movies in Germany at all.
Fascinating to learn this side of history i didn't even know!
Fascinating story! I'm Brazilian and I didn't know much about those descendants.
this is exactly the shit we want to see you are so good xiaoma
Very fascinating to me. I’m an American who lived in Brazil during the 80s. I had knowledge that American Confederates came to Brazil after the war but had no idea that there were any descendants still speaking English and cooking southern foods. I would have loved to have met them. His English is very good and I can tell you that it’s not the typical Brazilian accent that I’m familiar with having listened to many Brazilians who had learned English. BTW, as an historical aside, the Confederates must have been quite disappointed when in 1888 (I believe that’s the year) the king of Brazil emancipated the slaves without one shot being fired.
The southern resistance was about property rights and state sovereignty, not slavery- it would have died a naturally political death as it did in Great Britain. So the cause of civil war is a misnomer, just one of conquest by one against another.
Slavery only taking a different form
@@HelenRundell You need to catch up with the times. Historians now freely admit that the Civil War was about slavery.
@@kayemallory117 smh...' you can lead a horse to facts but can't make him think'
@@HelenRundell Slaves were property. Slavery wasn't dying, in fact the Southern party in Congress (the Kansas-Nebraska Act of 1854, overturning the Missouri Compromise of 1820) had just won a major political victory by getting slavery extended to the new central states.
Fascinating! I'm glad you found this gentleman so we can hear his story. By "hear," I mean both the history of his ancestors, his life, and his accent.
Thank You, Ari. Your presentations...your videos...are ALWAYS entertaining, fun, interesting and educational.
Great find this guy!!!! He is like a TIME CAPSULE of language!!!
This is fascinating
Him hating Portuguese dub is so based lol. I am Spanish and I despise watching things dubbed into Spanish. I can maybe handle watching animation dubbed, but anything live action is an absolute no.
Cuz Spanish dub sounds more like a parody lol I live on Mexico and the Mexican dub is just cringe it's like a musical
Same here, I was in Brazil visiting my family and they had some movie dubbed in Portuguese. It was so bad, uma porcaria
I'm a Brazilian, and here in my house, we never watch anything dubbed. That's how I learn English. Even when I watched Peppa Pig with my daughter, we watched it in English to teach her, and today she can even watch American RUclipsrs without any problem.
and then there's older material that's still using the vintage dubs from the 70's and 80's (you think I wouldn't watch something like Coco in Spanish?), and they just didn't pick dubbers that went with the characters. they all sounded like parodies by comedians. combine that with the meh quality of old dubs...
i know just enough spanish and french to be able to spot the word changes, and do the same as a lot of other's do: put it on to learn a bit of the language.
The only thing that sounds better in dubbed Spanish is SpongeBob and Shrek lol
Eu nunca tinha ouvido um brasileiro com sotaque sulista dos states kkkk
As a Brazilian, it’s so cool to learn about this. Although I know we’re a crazy mix of cultures and ethnicities I never knew about the confederates who fled to Brazil in the 1800s. Truly fascinating, thanks for sharing!
My guy says "I don't speak much English" and I haven't been to the states in 20 years. Dude speaks English 1000% better than most immigrants who have lived in the states for 20+ years...
He grew up speaking it or at least learned young and had a lot of people to speak English with when he was younger. I do agree with your statement though.
He speaks english better than many americans
@@leviturner3265
...hell, he speaks better English than some Americans...he do, he do...
Really enjoyed.
14:09. I love that his ring tone is The Cowsills’ “The Rain, The Park & Other Things”.😊
There is a very famous brazilian singer called Rita Lee. Her parents (or grandparents - I'm not sure right now) were confederates who migrated to Brazil and her father decided to pick Lee as family name for all his children born in Brazil as a tribute to General Lee
That exasperated sigh when asked what he thought of Americans ahahahahaha I could feel the deflation and resignation expressed by his very soul through the screen and speakers XD
5:08 "but I understood everything the hell they said". wow, very old-school southern sounding to me. "everything the hell they said" and the inflection at the end of that phrase. this is fascinating
I’m a Brazilian that immigrated to the US when I was 13 years old. This is one of the most interesting and endearing interviews I’ve watched in a while. I had no idea that some southerners immigrated to Brazil back then. Wow. This was really cool. Thanks for sharing!
He's such a nice guy, having the brazilian vibe like mixtured with a southern amaerican accent.
Amazing how history lives on in such unexpected ways sometimes. Snippets of times long gone, anachronistic and in the "wrong" place. Truly fascinating
Fascinating interview!! ❤
Wow, really interesting how the language was passed down after such a long time. Really interesting accent for sure, but he's very clear.
So glad you made this vid I've been very fascinated with the confederados of Brazil
There should be a second video with this man! He has some great stories.
The diversity of the Brasilian population would astound most anyone who never spent time there.
I worked there for 10 years and by the end of the 2nd year I had a whole new understanding of the uniqueness of Brasil.
Its an amazingly place.
I'm a Brazilian/American. What you said goes both ways. Leaving here in the US over 30 years. I see the things problably the same way you see about Brasil.
The problem is that that diversity cannot be maintained. This video is a perfect example of that. The Confederate immigrants and their communities are vanishing and almost gone. The same is true of the German-Brazilian communities, and other groups. They would have to be contained for them to survive.
Look at the United States. There was thriving German, Irish, Italian, and Dutch communities. Now all those communities are gone. There are very few native-born American German speakers, or Irish speakers etc. The Germans make up the largest single ethnic group in the United States, but even they were not able to hold on to their German-ness.
In Germany itself the level of diversity is pretty incredible. You could drive an hour and be in a different dialect region, and the words for common items would be different. You could drive an hour and not even understand what people are saying, because of their distinct dialect. A Bavarian gentleman tried to talk to me and I could not understand a word. Every region has its own cuisine differences, and traditional clothing differences, their own beer. In East-Frisia there is a strong tea culture. In Hessia there is a strong cider culture, in Rhineland there is a strong wine culture, and in Bavaria there is a very strong beer culture. I think globalization puts even these multiple hundreds of years of cultural development, and distinctions under threat. Keep in mind Germany is today only the size of Montana, yet there is so much there culturally, and linguistically between the different regions of the Germanic people.
I would be interested in seeing the German settlement in Brazil, but from what I have seen most people do not even speak German there anymore, and have intermarried, and there is not a lot left of substance, other than people talking in Portuguese about their German ancestors.
@leviturner3265 well when I went to those areas about 7 years ago there were German speakers and street signs everywhere.
Eventually all of thise things will change. If we went back far enough in history the same would be said for how these places that we see as traditional were unrecognizable to people from even 100 years ago.
Some of these areas were nothing like they are before WW2.
The Middle East borders and populations were very different prior to WW2 and different even before WW1.
American settlements changed dramatically after the Civil War and again after the industrial revolution.
English as it was written and spoken 200 years ago is hard for many of today's people to comprehend.
There are words and traditions we see now that we didn't have when I was a kid.
It's a constant evolution.
@@leviturner3265 This is the natural law, integration while maintaining the love for the culture of the ancestors. The same happened with the Germans (now French) of the French Rhine region, with the European Jews now in Israel, with the English who populated the USA and the Iberians who populated South America, etc.
It’s so fun when families and communities keep in touch with the places and culture they left and combine and blend! It’s like meeting a new cousin!
Fascinating, absolutely fascinating.
SUPER INTERESTING! We live in Tn and are studying civil war right now, reading Co. Aytch, a civil war soldier's account. HIghly recommend.
We are about 45-60 min from Alabama.
This is very fascinating. This reminds me of that 1 guy and his wife out in New Mexico or Arizona or something. Him and his wife can trace their ancestry in the US back to before the US spanned from coast to coast. Their families are descendants of the Mexicans that inhabited the US SW region when it was still Mexican territory. He and his wife still speak Spanish to each other. They sound very Mexican, but the accent is ever so slightly off.
Santa Fe, New Mexico. Descendants of the Spanish who settled those lands during the 16th century, not descendants of Mexicans.
I remember reading about this group of people in a newspaper article when I was a kid, back in the 1980s.
Totally agree he sounds like a Cajun from the Bayou! ❤
Southern Ohioian here. My mom born in the 1920’s (her parents were Victorians born in the 1880’s) used queer for strange, gay for happy and hickey for pimple.
Yes! Don we now our gay apparel, fa la la, la la la, la la la. A little Deck the Halls, anyone. Had the word queer in spelling and English (1976). And my Mom used to use the word hickey. I’m 58 and from Northeast Ohio.
Very cool and thoughtful video keep up the theme! Many more cases
I was born in Arkansas and raised in Oklahoma. Sounds like he could be a neighbor. His English is probably better than half of Arkansas'. lol
Interesting conversation!
I would be very curious about his and his family’s religion. Many gloss over this part of history, but Protestant in general, especially in the South were not fans of Catholics (to put it mildly). His family was most likely Protestant and they moved to a very Catholic country. There were probably not too many Protestants living in Brazil in the 1880s. How did that work out? He brings up the Irish (Catholic) and Halloween. He is obviously not a fan of Halloween. (The holiday Halloween means All Hallows Eve 10/31, All Saints Day 11/1, All Souls Day 11/2 - Catholic Holy Days.) Maybe if you talk to him again you could ask about his family’s religion and Brazil.
Se ele for brasileiro ele provavelmente não dá a mínima importância nesse quesito. Por aqui é cada um na sua. Faça o teu que eu faço o meu por aqui.
Well to be fair, we don't celebrate Halloween as Americans do at all in Brazil. Catholics observe All Hallow's Eve as per the liturgical calendar of the Church but we don't dress up and do trick or treating or anything of the sort. I believe this may be what he was referring to.
@@willl676It wasn't celebrated by Newfoundland Protestant children the way we do here either. In 1970, I taught school in a small outport. We did have a Hallowe'en party in the school, but there were no jack o'lanterns carved by the families and no trick or treating. The "youngsters" did wear costumes at school that day. Guy Fawkes Day was celebrated though. it's in November? It's called Bonfire Night and no mention is made of Guy Fawkes or the Gunpowder Plot.
Halloween is NOT a catholic festival. Catholics celebrate All Saints Day and the Remembrance of the Dead, Halloween is a pagan festival.
What an interesting interview! Truly! I really like this guy!!! Bring him on again.
Very interesting forgotten history. I live in Alabama and never knew this.
Aww, bless him with his translation business..lol, that website tho 😂
For professional documents and such, it's still much more reliable to use a service like his compared to just Google Translate.
What a queer name.... 😅
@@MoutinhoNuno😂
This is so cool!
Wow, his accent isn't that different from mine lol. It's incredible how accents can travel like in this man's story. Thanks for sharing--I had no clue this was a thing.