I met a lady recently who told me her grandmother (after giving birth) was told to give her child to an asylum's because the baby was born with Down’s syndrome. The poor woman had to argue with the staff in order to keep them from taking the baby. She was told the child would never function like a human being. She not only kept her child she proved those doubters completely wrong. I feel so inspired by this lady but it’s equally chilling imagining all the people who trusted the staff and gave up their children.
Huge respect for the mother for fighting to keep her baby during such times. It's really unsettling to think about all the innocent kids who were thrown in mental asylums just for having Down's syndrome. This is actually why I felt sad for 'Dean Metheny' in the video. He was an innocent guy with a similar condition who found himself in an environment that doesn't tolerate people like him and surrounded by individuals who see him as prey.
Psychiatry was SO FUCKING BAD compared with today not so long ago, it's disgusting (it's still not good and it won't be as long as we live under capitalism). A lot of it was/is very blatant misogyny, too.
@kauht Not in the old-fashioned sense, no. And I'd be remiss in saying things haven't improved considerably since the second half of the 20th century. But psychiatric hospitals, or rather their patients still suffer from a horribly arrogant staff that is blinded by its arrogance, with those they're supposed to help paying the price. Especially the poor, mentally ill and women (who suffer from not being taken seriously by physicians in their own special way with sometimes deadly consequences, for which naturally the patriarchy is to blame) are on the receiving end of the "I know what's best for you and if you question my decisions, I'll let you know I consider you to be beneath me" stick these supposed helpers like to wield. I really hate doctors sometimes.
As some have noted, hospitals are places of illness, death, tragedy, and pain, but also that, especially in mental hospitals, horrifying "treatments" often occured
There was no malice in the treatments at Waverly Hills, only desperation. Removing ribs was a last-ditch attempt to cure the disease, the fear of which can be compared to cancer or AIDS today. As a side note, the food at Waverly was excellent, as good, wholesome food was considered as important as fresh air and sunshine.
Exactly, they did all they could for the patience, for a disease they didn't know the origin of and how to cure. They knew it dealt with the lungs, but unlike something like pneumonia where you can drain the lungs of the fluid, and take a few pills, TB was a lot more tenacious. It takes around 6 months, sometimes up to 9 months, of regular medication just to "cure" TB, and that is ignoring if it spread to other places like heart, spine, or brain, where you need steroids to treat it also. It was "torture" for the patients, but only because they literally had no idea what to do other than try to make them comfortable, give them good, clean air, good well balanced food, and plenty of rest and sunlight. That was the only way to survive TB, as it wasn't until 1950s to 1960s actual cures was found, so that is 40 to 50 years of people suffering from a disease that first showed up in the 1700s. It might as well have been hospice care, but the suffering there was intense, because in a way, these people that would have died, were kept alive and being treated, living longer than they normally would. People seem to forget intense emotions, both negative and positive, can attribute to "hauntings" and in a place where people are suffering a lot, but also not wanting to die, struggling to keep living, it can make a place haunted.
I agree with your point, and I do believe most of the doctors had good intent. However, I also think the experimental side was involved at some point. The doctors probably knew that many of the patients wouldn't survive anyway, and they saw that it's a good chance to try as many procedures as possible to learn more about tuberculosis. The high rate of people losing their lives there indicates this aspect, especially since doctors repeated some intense treatments over and over even though it was obvious that many patients couldn't survive it. Historically, sometimes the first victims get sacrificed for the sake of developing knowledge about certain issues in the body in order to save future patients and create a better cure for the long term.
You can basically find these abandoned haunted hospitals in every US state and they all have the same history. Here in Florida there's Sunland Hospital and it's technically Waverley Hills 2.0. They applied the same stuff of breathing fresh air and getting exposed to sunlight. They had the same results of course.
Funny enough, they had good reason to think that. We know now that Vitamin D levels play a huge role in immune function. During the pandemic, we quickly realised that patients with severe complications all shared a trait: low serum Vitamin D levels. Direct exposure to sunlight stimulates the production of that vitamin
@@HappyBeezerStudios Impressive/depressing. Studied Pharmacy at Uni. In the drug-design module, mRNA treatments were called "a failed investment that were shelved to avoid lawsuits" At times I wondered if i had lost my mind, watching as hard-won lessons kept getting forgotten for the sake of money/politics.
You don't even need to send this to Nurses and Doctors that work in hospitals, any of them that work the night shift and/or work the quiet part of the hospital, namely the Emergency Room, can tell stories about things they have seen, heard, felt, or just sensed in some way. The older the hospital, the more it has been through, the more prone to "hauntings" a place is.
I've worked nights for 7 years now, mainly in the ER or by myself in the radiology department which used to be where surgery was. In a 100 year old hospital. And I still haven't seen anything spooky =(
@@RaditionRadish i take it as hallucination, depending on how susceptible to the phenomenon you are, the more likely your brain will trick you to see or experience whats not actually there, especially if youve been fed these stories beforehand i do want to see how experiences differ between people aware of horror hospitals and those who arent
Really funny that you mention it, my mother has been an emergency lab technician for around 30 years. They’re always busy in day or night shift, so I don’t know if they have time to focus on hauntings. Emergency is the LEAST quiet part of the hospital.
@@arcturus4762 Exactly, it's only in areas where it's quiet, but have seen a lot of use. So ER's are NEVER quiet, and if it is, I think most nurses/doctors see that as a bad omen that something big is building up rather than a good thing.
@@aliceDarts that is true but i know for a fact if someone walk into an abandon hospital they would be pissing their pants, but why do they willingly go into those type of places ?
@@StrikerK5 They go to explore and make videos, but they only do it in groups. I would be more impressed if someone went alone and spent a night there. That would definitely be peak bravery.
@@JoshCollins45I try to do that sometimes but with little budget I have to invite others to pay for the trip and most of the time they want to go to the haunted places with me. XD
Actually, I am a physician IRL. The scariest thing for me is when the hospital becomes very crowded and I get to see tons of patients continuously without rest 😅. I wana help em all but sometimes we need a short break to breathe and relax , but , sadly most patients don’t understand this and want you to work fast and see them immediately and continuously .
Very true. I've been present in crowded hospitals to visit relatives, and I seriously can't imagine being in the doctor's shoes in such situations. It's definitely tough to deal with all of that and handle people with all kinds of attitudes. Big respect for you.
agreed. i am a dental student right now and i have been threatened by a patient that they were going to sue the hospital if the dentist treating them wasn't called this instant when they were clearly priorly told that day would not be possible because the practioner treating them was supposed to attend a seminar during the patient's preferred time. and it wasnt anything serious, it was simply scaling and polishing.
Yeah, overworked doctors make mistakes. And it's a trade where long shifts and lack of rest is common. They need breaks, they need proper shift lengths. And it's a situation with too few professionals for too many patients. A mistake there can literally cost lives, so we all should have a thought about how much of an emergency we really are. Not saying that emergencies shouldn't be treated urgently. But maybe waiting a couple minutes is worth it. Never been life-threateningly ill myself, but even when it was bad, I had the understanding to know that there might be people who need help more urgently than me.
my heart goes out to nurses and doctors during the worst of times like the pandemic and when things are hectic, it has to be maddening to want to help everyone but having no energy, emotionally or physically, to be able to.
Sanatoriums are a whole different ballgame. They and asylums were most often dumping grounds for those who didn't want to deal with certain members of their families anymore. Husbands could sign their wives in and just be rid of them.
most patients if not all (from the hospital i researched for school) were women. (la salpetrière used to be for orphans, homeless men then women) you could get put in because your father wanted to because you're a disgrace to your family. i vaguely looked into its history and during the revolution women were taken, killed and assaulted. they tested women completly naked in front of rows of men to study their epilepsy, or trauma responses from potential sa. the doctor charcot was the primary doctor looking for the causes and triggers of "hysteria" by practicing hypnosis, its said that he wasn't really trying to find a cure to it. his student sigmund freud is the one who did try to find the cure to, trauma.
@@MurderHorse I hear weird noises sometimes but it's hard to tell tbh. Usually it's small stuff that could just be the house since it's so old but there was a time that I swore I was hearing super raspy breathing (which would make sense, by house in particular was part of the TB ward). My mom had also told me she's heard voices in one of the rooms in our house. Never seen anything though so I can't be sure fr
I used to have a crippling fear of hospitals, specifically psych wards. It was bad to the point that i wasnt able to drive by a hospital without having a full on panic attack. But then i was actually admitted to a psychiatric hospital during a very bad suicidal episode. I wouldn't call the experience "good" but it certainly wasnt nearly as scary as i thought it would be. Almost every single person i met, both the staff and other patients, were incredibly kind and supportive. It wasnt your stereotypical "insane asylum".
I wish I had that experience. I voluntarily went to a psych ward. They took me 3 hours away from home, told none of my family members where I was even when I asked them to. The actual stay I was neglected and none of the nurses spoke to me. I told them I had food allergies and instead of being given a meal I was given an apple and water for 2 weeks. The doctor/psychologist only came to the ward once a week, so even if you were supposed to leave that day if he didn't come to sign you out you couldn't leave. I was there for severe sewer slide ideation. It sadly made it worse not better. T.T
@@caseyp3447that's honestly crazy. how old were you at the time? and you seriously couldn't leave? like shit I would've went crazy if the only thing that I had to eat was an apple and water for two weeks lol. and what did u do in there? like u were a voluntary right, what was ur job? I'm just curious bro
@Moli05 I was 20 and worked at Subway. I went in voluntarily because the sewer slide ideation was getting really bad. I went to my local hospital and told them I wanted to go. They put me in a van and sent me to Phoenix az. It was during covid, and they didn't even give us daily activities. We just walked up and down the halls or watched the one t.v with all the other patients. No outside time, nothing.
@SomeRandomEcho I get that, but the nurses and doctors should be kind to you. You should not be left with nothing to do the entire time you are awake. As that can make ot worse. Vitamin D, aka outside, has been known to help with certain conditions. You are miserable going in, but they should not be making you more miserable. You went in to get help not to be harmed more.
Even though hospitals is supposed to be a places of healing, every hospital is enevitably also a place of pain, suffering and death. If you're end up in a hospital, it's never for something good. Sights you can see there is also not most pleasants. When I was in intensive care, I witnessed two deaths plus additional one when I was transferred to general ward. You can imagine how "optimistic" I was, considering my own condition, which is also nearly resulted in death. Oh, and a few years earlier my mother died in the same hospital, from the same illness I have.
People today have a very wrong understanding when they think that getting sentenced to be confined in a psychiatric hospital is a better deal than the prison in the justice system. It's literally worse. I have friends who work in both prisons and psychiatric wards, and they told me that being in a prison today is much better than a psychiatric ward. Even though the standards of asylums in general today are way more modern and different than in the past, there's still the idea that being a patient there means that you're not a normal human being that can be dealt with within the limits of regular measures. In prison, when you get into trouble, you can at least be taken seriously when you testify or explain yourself. In asylums, if you behave outside the norm too much, the staff will think that you can't control yourself and they need to "calm" you down.
It can also be worse from a social perspective. Your history of being admitted to a psychiatric ward can sometimes give you a worse reputation among people compared to spending some prison time for a casual issue. Some people wouldn't forget it, and they'll always look at you differently because the general stereotypical mentality of society still sees asylum patients in a very bad light.
And then the fact that it's much harder to be released when you got better. When you're in prison, and you behave right, and do all the tasks and trainings and show improvement, you can be released even before your sentence is done. But in a mental institution trying to convince that you're really "cured" is extremely hard.
So I used to work in a nursing home- and let me tell you! I think honestly any medical facility is haunted! Like I didn’t have extremely scary experiences but a few to be a bit weird/spooky 😂 might be kinda cool if a horror game was made about a nursing home
The history of nursing homes is pretty close to hospitals. A video about them would be similar to this one in many aspects. It doesn't apply to every one of course, but even today you can find ones where neglect and lack of empathy are existent, which leads to many sad stories. So yes, a nursing home would be a good setting for a horror game.
There was a time when my grandma had to stay at my family's house so we can take care of her and oh boy sometimes she'd be up in the middle of the night complaining about someone being on her bed or asking who the people outside are (keeping in mind, it tends to be only me and her at night as my parents work night shifts and we live in a relatively quiet neighborhood). Both my mom and one of my friends has experience in working with elderly patients and I'm sure you'd agree this isn't uncommon. So I can bet it's quite an experience to watch elderly residents and patients to bend down and smile at an empty spot and talk as if to a small child or a pet, or to enter a room and see a resident yelling and screaming at the empty corner of their room.
@@Rockhoppr3 oh yeah! I heard of a couple of times about my aunt and the one that just makes me sad not so much scared- is that she used to see/talk to my cousin Jeremy. Now mind you my cousin Tim (her middle child) has a son named that. She had a stillbirth. Her last son was named Jeremy (who Tim’s son was named after). She would talk to her dead son. Would say he was with her…
Logically yeah, people go there to get better, but my gut always makes me feel a sense of uneasy and fear when you see people sick or hanging by a thread, specially if they are a relative. To me it feels more like a place of death than even cemetery because of the sense of unknown. At the morgue it's over, you know they are gone. But in a hospital? It just makes you fear the future and that possibility that maybe one that that's gonna be you in one of those beds. Maybe that's a fear that is not so much explored, as most stories rely too much on ghosts, maniacs or straight up monsters.
Sometimes they had a funny story in patient, someone told me in his experience working in mental hospital, he met a neat patient, can speak clearly, looking like a healthy person. he confused " why this patient who still sane in this hospital? ". Being a curios person, he decided to bravely ask the patient the reason why he is in Hospital. With a proud and convincing tone, he explains " IN MY BODY RESIDE A DRAGON"
I played Call of Cthulhu and that asylum was terrifying. The moment I knew I was in it, I knew something bad was going to happen. Anytime, I'm playing a game where the protagonist is in a mental hospital, I immediately become tense and scared.
@@midnightdimensions13 The frogware version, is anything as near as the old Call of Chthulu game for both pc and Xbox AKA Call of Cthulhu: Dark corners of the earth. If you did not play it yet make sure to do it eventually. As the asylum stage there, is the real deal. Also, "the town of light", it depicts exactly the abuses on which the mental diseases patients, the patients and the staffs as well have been through... It is not fiction, also it has been set in my country though. WARNING Strong disturbing contents, you have been awared.
When I was 18 in 2012. I was staying in a hospital when I was being seen when I couldn’t see in my left eye and then they found out later I had Multiple Sclerosis nearby my birthday while I was at the hospital. I would be scared at night because I was alone in a hospital room. And I didn’t like being in the dark by myself when it was night time. I would leave the tv left on while I tried to sleep. I’m still scared of the dark though. And a nice old lady later stayed in the same room who was nice. She was a Jewish lady who survived in the holocaust. I didn’t know she was when my friend came to visit me at the hospital and was talking to her too. I don’t like staying the hospital by myself. I don’t like the dark. The dark scares me sometimes.
@@Lolalovesu Do not underestimate it, the dark scares every time, but remember it only takes a candle to fend off the darkness themselves. Be that candle, shine and burn like a flame, and fear no evil life is anything but an illusion, as happiness is but a tear.🖤
@@Lolalovesu No worries, happy of being of any help there be safe. 🙏🏻 P.S. life is more than we actually believe it is, what fate lies beyond of her veil? Is only for each and any of us to be found.🌌 Nobody is truly alone, so no matter the struggle, never back down.🖤🗡👋🏻
Well said, besides if they even lied about the alien existence for years, and the chemicaltrays that have been irrevokably broken our weather and shape it at their leisure, causing natural disaster like downbursts and heavy storms, or the pandemic itself on terms of deaths number, they cannot be trusted anymore. As the worse is yet to come either regrettably. Stay free, be safe!
Yes, BUT The alternative is getting services from private sources, which inherently pits life, liberty, and rights against profit motive, and for-profit companies will prioritize money anywhere possible because that's their legally-obligated purpose. The solution isn't to give up on government, but to work to make it better.
@@pbrown7501 ha! Ha! Ha! Impressive how people tries to advocate for government. To begin with, governments are the ones making people insane. Private services seek profit and that's the question: you can't profit if people notice you're not doing a good job. Governments don't seek profit, they seek votes and taxes. They have no reason to do a good service, cuz they don't have competition. What you gonna do? Choose another government? You can't! But you can choose between different private entrerprises. Governments aren't useful, aren't essencials. They're incompetent, but they want to convince you otherwise cuz they want your money. Private companies want your money too, but they are honest about it. They know you'll choose the ones that offers the best services. Unlike governments, private enterprises have too much to lose.
Hospitals are, in general, places of tragedy: illness and death, along with the emotional turmoil that goes with these. They are places of horror in the sense that many unethical, cruel and shocking experiments were performed on patients against their will, especially mental patients and prisoners of war. Some of these experiments could have been associated with the occult, but IMO that's rather an exaggeration.
When my father got covid only tho months since the lockdown started, he almost died due to a bad praxis from the nurses, they made holes in the oxygen masks so his condition gets worse, in order to put him in the ICUs and make us pay thousands of dollars. Thank god my father noticed this and they stopped, i think not only the nurses, but even the doctors were involved. Yes, hostpitals do this, dont trust anyone regarding your health. I can now understand why people can fear hospitals the same way as cemeteries.
Can't believe you went the whole video without mentioning Shalebridge Cradle from Thief: Deadly Shadows. For one mission it was surprisingly deep in lore, and a lot of the experiments and practices you mentioned are present. Even creepier considering that it was an orphanage first, with a transitional period where both orphaned children and mental patients were housed.
Another good example of a horror game with an asylum could be Fran Bow in which the first section of the game is you (as i believe 13 year old) in a children's asylum trying to escape. It's quite scary to walk through the rooms and see all the children and their different conditions.
@@kalinaribic6383 The op was sayind the places were filled with the four; suffering, pain, grief and revenge, I guess shortening it made it ambiguious, and imho means 'In my humple opinion'.
@@SamuraiKensei276 More like english isn't my first language, but I was simply explaining to the other person, I understood what you meant, even if the grammar was a tad confusing.
You did a great job with this topic, The CIA experiments past, present and future are terrifying! I started wondering about other ways they get subjects and scared myself. I have never liked hospitals, if you've ever had the chance to wander around a hospital until the staff directs you back out to a waiting room, then you know how creepy the long liminal hallways are and there are creepy sounds. I got lost at about midnight and got on a Staff Only elevator, I thought for sure I was going to end up in the morgue, it was scary. An orderly -caught- rescued me and directed me to my family member's floor. Then I wandered some more... This was Scripps Mercy Hospital in San Diego, California. It's a beautiful hospital and huge- this is why I got lost there.
Considering that Mercy Hospital is more than 130 years old, I'm pretty sure plenty of unsettling stuff happened there in the past that can make it a good candidate for paranormal incidents.
As an autistic person, I’ve always found mental asylums to be absolutely terrifying, thinking of how if I was born just a few years earlier,my life might be a living hell just because I think differently.
Hospitals have huge backrooms energy. Their sterile, artificial, yet paradoxically populated nature lend perfectly towards a liminal space the moment they’re empty, which automatically causes discomfort for a lot of people. This is all before the vulnerability aspect is taken into account.
The thing that makes me personally troubled of these haunted hospitals in videogames is the fact that some hospitals in real life (and especially very many mental asylums) had a real and proven history of at times incredibly cruel treatment for their patients. So, like, when I see those hospitals and mental asylums in game, I often thing, like, "damn, a similar thing might have happened to an actual real person in the past." like, you know, usually not quite as gruesome or shocking than what is displayed in most video games, but still extremely horrible.
Talk to any person who worked in a hospital for long enough time, especially night shift, and they almost always have some story to tell about a strange experience they had there. Either directly or to a colleague
Hospitals are also places of a bureaucracy patients don't get to understand because nobody bothers explaining it to them. I dunno about in the US, but here in Europe doctors can be so incredibly arrogant and fail to understand the importance of communication with and respecting the patient. I'd be surprised if that enormous failure isn't part of hospitals being places of fictional horror. Of course, in the US you also have the dreadful aspect of going bankrupt over breaking your leg or whatevs.
Make sure they give you visitation to her. Make sure they are giving hee proper nutrition and that they don't leave her alone for long periods of time. I went willingly after I had issues. They did not tell my family where I was, refused to deal with my food allergies and left me alone for hours at a time. Please check up on her as much as you can.
@@caseyp3447 thanks! Actually, they tried a different aproach: she is in some relative's house, away from her home(maybe the problem was in her home, which belongs to her stepdad). Her mom is with her and she is concentrating her time on her studies.
@@TawJev I'm glad that she didn't go, hopefully she is doing much better now. Feeling safe and comfortable in a home and surrounded by loved ones and support is much better than hospitals.
@@caseyp3447 I'm glad too. But the sad thing is that I thought I have saved her. You know, I was in deep sh1t. I dealt with injustices by seeking dark stuff. I won't tell you what they were, but it was routune for me. When she appeared, everything changed. She's so great, so kind, so innocent that only looking at her face it was enough to touch my conscience. I got ashamed of my bad stuff. I repent. I gave up that sh1t and confessed about it to her. She never judged me, and she was glad that I took that decision. Because of her I liked to live for the first time. One day, she confessed to me that, before she had met me, she was thinking on taking her own life. She promissed me she wouldn't try to hurt herself again. For the first time I didn't feel like a piece of trash. I felt like a was useful to this world. Imagine saving soneone's life. Imagine saving your lover's life. I felt so great. But then, one day she said me she was about to go to internation because she was thinking in doing that again. It was so sad that she was like that again. And I got sad because she doesn't seem to love me as I love her. She gave me reason to live and an objective for my life. But even I am not a reason enough for her to continue to live. I think I didn't save her after all.
I had a good experience when I was in hospital (public too, not private!) after giving birth to my son. I was so overwhelmed and exhausted and I doubted my ability to care for my son as a new mother. Suddenly, after feeling truly hopeless and in despair, this amazing energy washed over me, full of love, reassurance and many other positive feelings. It was as though either an angel, spirit guide or a former nurse had visited me in spirit. I was much better after that and was buoyed by hope.
The most disturbing thing about this video is that I think I've seen it with a half-dozen different thumbnails now in my recommended, lol. Why is it always changing, and with new captions?!
Hospitals , especially Mental asylums are horrifying. In video games, the level of horror become infinite. I have played Manhunt II and there the mental asylum sequence was terrifying.
i think it would be great to have a game where where we're locked in an abondened hospital where we gather resources for our own defence against the others who are also locked in the hospital and there should be asymmitrical online players too but at first we shouldn't be able to differenciate them from the others
5:23 KENTUCKY MENTIONED!!!!! that place is like a 30 minute drive for me. It’s such a dark disturbing history and I have a morbid sense of thankfulness to be near it and know of it. The illusion of safety in a hospital was shattered pretty early for me because of the stories I heard of Waverly Hills. I suppose it had that effect on most of Louisville too. It’s pretty cool that we are able to learn and grow from something so haunting.
what a fascinating video! i actually work night shifts in the emergency room and would like to add a contribution from a new perspective! hospitals... fuckin creepy when they are empty. and some wings are haunted, and have energies that are not happy when you are up there with them. we have a wing that used to be uh, bascially, the comfort care (where we kept peope comfortable until they passed) and it's only used in the daytime now. you still have to check the area at night. i've always gotten bad feelings at night, and my coworkers who regularly go trhough the areas always talk about bad feelings and weird experiences. the examples you use are very valid! these are places that leave a horrible energy behind, of unresolved conflicts. these are places proven to be haunted, and in some cases, dangerously haunted. i realize these seem to specifically psychiatric facilities, but even straight up medical facilities can be just as unnerving in the right setting. i think the only unit i've ever felt comfortable in has been labor and delivery.
electroshock therapy is still used today to treat refractory depression (depression that does not respond to drugs/counseling) Patients swear by it. I have a patient that comes in every 3 months on the clock to get his ECST.
I used to work in a major trauma center where I live so this hospital saw a higher amount of deaths/severe injuries then typical. I'm a lab tech and the storage rooms for our particular lab were in the basement. You had to walk past the morgue to get to the storage rooms and my favorite co-worker used to go down there with me when we had to bring up more supplies than usual. She'd act like she could see ghosts and would talk to them, trying to freak me out 😅😅😅 Sometimes I miss that job. Not the hospital itself or the admin but the people I worked with were pretty awesome.
I thought of few things after watching this video. Medic from Team Fortress 2. I always thought they just made a funny and looney German doctor character who has no medical license and does crazy experiments. Now I kinda think at one point in history there probably was a doctor like him. Also Arkham Asylum isn't really a horror game but now I understand why while playing it made me feel so tense and scared, despite playing as one of the badass superheroes, Batman.
I mean, the most famous experimental German doctor is Dr Mengele, who was a figure of nightmare during the Holocaust. Probably the only 'medical' thing worse than him is Unit 731, in part due to the tens of thousands of people they subjected to lethal experimentation without anesthesic. In part due to the fact the U.S government covered it up, allowing people with higher kill counts than Ted Bundy to continue being respected figures in the medical world.
one of the mental hospitals i went to had doors on the ceiling and when i asked what they were for, they said that they used to put kids up there when for "personal seclusion" porpouses
Nah the silent hill 2 one wasn't as convincing as it should've been. In terms of malpractice and doctors own intents silent hill 1 is much better for that. With silent hill 2 it's a case of, they're keeping her alive. That's it. She thinks it's because they make money off her being alive. Which is true, the US health care system does work like that. However it can also be argued that they're literally doing their job, just keeping her alive. She wants to be euthanized but that's not legal so they keep her alive. Not so evil unless from her POV. Silent Hill 1 though, they keep a young girl with sever burns under the hospital in a small cell, forcing her to stay alive for an evil cult and don't care the ramifications that has on her nurse. Much more nefarious and way less immoraly questionable.
One other thing i think is that hospitals are known for safety or fixing but when it is in horror games are assumptions are flipped to think they are there for pain and death. Especially when you think spirits stay at the hospitals when they died
i have gone to 2 "asylums" in my state and most have been good, but one time there was this tech who was always creepy towards me, and detained me by herself right after i got out of the shower and i was yelling because all i was detained for was having a tic and accidentally slapping my chest and she pulled my hair and punched me, it was not fun
I would wager it's because hospitals are so sterile and sanitized, bland and white... They have almost none of the hallmarks of a person's home. They're not really designed to be comfortable. They're purely for function. It's hard to feel comfortable in a place like that.
Natural isn't ever really used correctly in the human language, fucked up stuff is very normal in the "Animal/Natural world. Any horrible behaviour you can imagine is" natural" and normal among non-civilized animals. The terrible thing is that humans are civilized and some still choose to do those things.
it sucks that NOONE is making real horror survival multiplayer game. All we see is just a fng story based single player games. And yeah...what i heard most devs cant make multiplayer games
that may be one of the most difficult things to pull off. creating a horror game requires a sense of vulnerability and tension, which can be lost when being with friends. having company makes things less scary and the tension that comes from silence or far away sounds less impactful. so while I agree that it would be an interesting game to play, I doubt we'll see one any time soon
@@TawJev that's not story based. It is a replayability based game with asymmetrical gameplay up front. And don't get me wrong, it's a fun and enjoyable game, but it is primarily a mechanics driven game. While it can be filled with tension at times (and the same can be said for the Friday the 13th, Dead by daylight and even the mess that was Resident Evil resistance), it is mostly a game of cat and mouse with extra elements. It is not a story driven experience. Even games like phasmophobia get closer to being scarier, but still, not driven by a story
@@joshgd86 but how to make a story based multiplayer game? Have any ideas? A story must be linear to be well written. The multiplayer element doesn't allow linearity. I think it's really difficult - if even possible - to make horror multiplayer game with non-linear story that works. Maybe that's the reason we just see "mechanics driven" games like these you mentioned.
@@TawJev agreed, it is difficult. But I'm not sure that multiplayer can't be linear. You could have stories intertwined by segments. Similar to what is seen in "a way out" or you could have a co-op game similar to resident evil 5 & 6. You could also have a game where you can be the "killer" or villain with a story worked on through a story opposite to the other player (or players), like the other side of the coin; maybe making it seem that it was not a villainous character, just a different perspective. Narratively speaking there are many possibilities, but mechanically it would be very difficult, especially if the players are meant to interact with each other frequently or all the time. Another option would be a game that plays as an escape room. Where players have only a radio to communicate with each other to solve procedurally generated puzzles before something happens to one of them, forcing cooperation while saving each other. The puzzles could be related to the player's background, which could be given by predetermined characters or by psychometric tests taken on the character creation menu before the game starts. I honestly wish I had the talent to develop games, cause it is an unexplored terrain. And maybe my ideas aren't good enough or hard to pull off, but If I came up with that, maybe someone more talented can come up with something better. With the right team, it would be an interesting experience
Alice: Madness Returns mentioned! This game really does explore the worst ways we used to treat those who had mental and emotional struggles related to trauma.
Today in general states instead of directly inprisoning dissidents and troublemakers they send them to mental institutions. This has also been done in the past.
Love how he calls the whole "the doctors dont care about the patients and just want the most money from them as possible" is actually the case with real hospitals.
"Hospitals... where Life is saved and Death is confronted." Not in my experience. For me: Hospitals... where Life was ruined and Death introduced. Everything stolen... I want it back.
That's a good and entertaining analysis. At its heart, I think, it's not that compicated. Hospitals are places where you are not in control of your own self, more or less. Even for a simple check-up, you eat what they give you, you go to sleep at an appointed time, you have an IV on that restricts movement. It doesn't even have to be ill-intentioned; it's our natural reflex to feel uncomfortable in any position where other people have the final word on you, especially if they are authority that you're rarely qualified to dispute and can be basically all-powerful within the institution's walls. That such positions, which include power sometimes over life and death, certainly health and comfort, over a human being, attract sinister people is unfortunately a given. And all that happened in the past and still happens, coupled with the private tragedies, the fear of disease or death and the eternal anxiety of discovering illness in yourself create just the cocktail, so the only people who feel mostly at ease are those whose conditions are so debilitating irl that being treated can only be relieving or life-saving, and sometimes not even they do.
i also went to the seclusion room in one of the mental hospitals and it was just a room made of rubber, it stank like piss and had barf and blood stains all over it. i soon found out why when they wouldn't feed me, let me use the bathroom, didnt give me water for 12 hours. they locked me in there and left the blaring lights on with silence for 12 hours. it was horrible.
Absolutely! Damn, even more when such hospitals have like the patient zero of some lethal virus or Fungus (TLOU), a mental asylum... damn Thinking about all the infected or Spirits
When I went to Waverly it was a very interesting experience. This may sound like hooey to some people, but I'm relaying precisely how it went down for me, be it all in my imagination, or something more real. I went at night with some of my friends and we were in a small grouping of perhaps around 15 people. I've been to other haunted places. There's always a certain energy about them, sometimes its more positive, sometimes it's more sinister. I'm not sure if I can explain it properly but, I get really anxious in large groupings of people. I only had my friends by me, the other people in our group were sticking to their own friends/family. Yet, immediately upon walking into the place I felt cramped. It was like walking through a busy street during the middle of the day, it set me on edge. This happens in a lot of the haunted places I go to, with some I don't even know they are haunted til after the fact. I always have a little moment of "*Oh*, well that explains it!" Whenever that happens. Anyway, to date, Waverly is one of the places that have truly overwhelmed me with the massive amount of energy it gave off. My whole entire body was buzzing like all my limbs had gone to sleep the entire time I was there. The weird thing is, normally when that happens I have to fight to stave off a panic attack, or remove myself from the premises entirely, but at Waverly I was on edge, but also strangely elated. There was a friendly, calm atmosphere that, despite the dark, creepy hospital ruins, kept me stable throughout the whole experience. It was like going to a party that is full of your favorite people. Yeah, its cramped and full of bodies, but they're bodies you don't mind being around and don't mind if they accidentally bump into you or not because you trust them and they trust you. The whole two hours I was there I felt wired yet also calm. I'm normally pretty afraid of the dark but I ended up volunteering to be one of the people to walk down to the middle of a really dark hallway alone. I just felt welcomed anywhere I went throughout most of the building. There were a spare few places that I didn’t feel that same warmth though, the morgue was one of those places. I felt bad because our guide was talking about it and sharing cool stories but I barely listened because I was trying so hard not to just run out of that room. It wasn't the same as the normal "This room is full of people I can't see" anxiety though. In fact, other than our group the room felt nearly empty. It felt instead like I was being stalked and hunted by something malicious and angry. Needless to say, I was more than happy to gtfo of that room all together. Also, immediately upon leaving the Sanitarium I went from full batteries wired, to almost passing out. I crashed on my friend's couch upon arriving at their place, instead of driving the 7 minutes it took to get back to mine and I don't think I've slept that hard probably ever. There were quite a few more really strange things that happened to me there, but I just wanted to share the basic feel of the place. For the most part, I really wanna go back at some point. The history of the place is fascinating and its one of the few haunted places where I've felt truly welcomed.
These treatments might be harsh but, we cant deny because of those inhuman things in the past ,the medical department is able to treat people in human way today
We had a big old TB hospital built way back in the woods that was huge and then turned into a metal asylum. Just like Waverly , body tunnel and all. Ours didnt shut down till they built the Mohegan Sun casino in CT. The hosp. is right across the river from it. Norwich Mental Hospital.
Even without the horror. I still have to force myself to go to the hospital. And like you said , that's where you should go to get better. But I still feel uneasy to go . Even though I know it's not rational.
My older sister experience this scary one she used to be a nurse at that one hospital But there is only small amount of worker working there the reason is many have said that sometimes they saw some figures or heard some scream in there and that one person saw these crazy creature and ran away and never came back to the hospital because the person is so scared and 😢that was my older sister experience too she hearing weird crying one room some times in the hallway so she is terrified that she resign
Especially mental hospital. l fear mentally ill people more than supernatural entities. Just imagining how much insane and ruthless they can be after their death scares me even more.
I met a lady recently who told me her grandmother (after giving birth) was told to give her child to an asylum's because the baby was born with Down’s syndrome. The poor woman had to argue with the staff in order to keep them from taking the baby. She was told the child would never function like a human being. She not only kept her child she proved those doubters completely wrong. I feel so inspired by this lady but it’s equally chilling imagining all the people who trusted the staff and gave up their children.
Huge respect for the mother for fighting to keep her baby during such times. It's really unsettling to think about all the innocent kids who were thrown in mental asylums just for having Down's syndrome. This is actually why I felt sad for 'Dean Metheny' in the video. He was an innocent guy with a similar condition who found himself in an environment that doesn't tolerate people like him and surrounded by individuals who see him as prey.
Psychiatry was SO FUCKING BAD compared with today not so long ago, it's disgusting (it's still not good and it won't be as long as we live under capitalism). A lot of it was/is very blatant misogyny, too.
Had to be Ireland's mother and Baby homes, the Catholic Church has a horrid past in my country.
Asylums don't really exist tho lol
@kauht Not in the old-fashioned sense, no. And I'd be remiss in saying things haven't improved considerably since the second half of the 20th century.
But psychiatric hospitals, or rather their patients still suffer from a horribly arrogant staff that is blinded by its arrogance, with those they're supposed to help paying the price. Especially the poor, mentally ill and women (who suffer from not being taken seriously by physicians in their own special way with sometimes deadly consequences, for which naturally the patriarchy is to blame) are on the receiving end of the "I know what's best for you and if you question my decisions, I'll let you know I consider you to be beneath me" stick these supposed helpers like to wield. I really hate doctors sometimes.
As some have noted, hospitals are places of illness, death, tragedy, and pain, but also that, especially in mental hospitals, horrifying "treatments" often occured
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There was no malice in the treatments at Waverly Hills, only desperation. Removing ribs was a last-ditch attempt to cure the disease, the fear of which can be compared to cancer or AIDS today. As a side note, the food at Waverly was excellent, as good, wholesome food was considered as important as fresh air and sunshine.
Exactly, they did all they could for the patience, for a disease they didn't know the origin of and how to cure. They knew it dealt with the lungs, but unlike something like pneumonia where you can drain the lungs of the fluid, and take a few pills, TB was a lot more tenacious. It takes around 6 months, sometimes up to 9 months, of regular medication just to "cure" TB, and that is ignoring if it spread to other places like heart, spine, or brain, where you need steroids to treat it also.
It was "torture" for the patients, but only because they literally had no idea what to do other than try to make them comfortable, give them good, clean air, good well balanced food, and plenty of rest and sunlight. That was the only way to survive TB, as it wasn't until 1950s to 1960s actual cures was found, so that is 40 to 50 years of people suffering from a disease that first showed up in the 1700s.
It might as well have been hospice care, but the suffering there was intense, because in a way, these people that would have died, were kept alive and being treated, living longer than they normally would. People seem to forget intense emotions, both negative and positive, can attribute to "hauntings" and in a place where people are suffering a lot, but also not wanting to die, struggling to keep living, it can make a place haunted.
I neither would call that malice nor desperation, I believe it was all due of of those doctors incompetence though imho.🤦🏻♂️
@@SamuraiKensei276 They were doing the best they could with the knowledge and tools available to them at the time. I wouldn't call it incompetence.
@@SamuraiKensei276 Is it really incompetence? People back in the day didn't have the knowledge or methods we do now.
I agree with your point, and I do believe most of the doctors had good intent. However, I also think the experimental side was involved at some point. The doctors probably knew that many of the patients wouldn't survive anyway, and they saw that it's a good chance to try as many procedures as possible to learn more about tuberculosis. The high rate of people losing their lives there indicates this aspect, especially since doctors repeated some intense treatments over and over even though it was obvious that many patients couldn't survive it. Historically, sometimes the first victims get sacrificed for the sake of developing knowledge about certain issues in the body in order to save future patients and create a better cure for the long term.
You can basically find these abandoned haunted hospitals in every US state and they all have the same history. Here in Florida there's Sunland Hospital and it's technically Waverley Hills 2.0. They applied the same stuff of breathing fresh air and getting exposed to sunlight. They had the same results of course.
@@OliverAnderson266
That's awful.
Funny enough, they had good reason to think that. We know now that Vitamin D levels play a huge role in immune function. During the pandemic, we quickly realised that patients with severe complications all shared a trait: low serum Vitamin D levels. Direct exposure to sunlight stimulates the production of that vitamin
@@josedorsaith5261 impressive that it took that long in some places.
@@HappyBeezerStudios
Impressive/depressing.
Studied Pharmacy at Uni. In the drug-design module, mRNA treatments were called "a failed investment that were shelved to avoid lawsuits"
At times I wondered if i had lost my mind, watching as hard-won lessons kept getting forgotten for the sake of money/politics.
@@josedorsaith5261Millions are paying the price for being tricked and pressured into using the “Suddenly juice.”
You don't even need to send this to Nurses and Doctors that work in hospitals, any of them that work the night shift and/or work the quiet part of the hospital, namely the Emergency Room, can tell stories about things they have seen, heard, felt, or just sensed in some way. The older the hospital, the more it has been through, the more prone to "hauntings" a place is.
I've worked nights for 7 years now, mainly in the ER or by myself in the radiology department which used to be where surgery was. In a 100 year old hospital. And I still haven't seen anything spooky =(
Are these night shift workers in the room with us right now?
@@RaditionRadish i take it as hallucination, depending on how susceptible to the phenomenon you are, the more likely your brain will trick you to see or experience whats not actually there, especially if youve been fed these stories beforehand
i do want to see how experiences differ between people aware of horror hospitals and those who arent
Really funny that you mention it, my mother has been an emergency lab technician for around 30 years. They’re always busy in day or night shift, so I don’t know if they have time to focus on hauntings. Emergency is the LEAST quiet part of the hospital.
@@arcturus4762 Exactly, it's only in areas where it's quiet, but have seen a lot of use. So ER's are NEVER quiet, and if it is, I think most nurses/doctors see that as a bad omen that something big is building up rather than a good thing.
"It was never fiction"
So you telling me some poor mf had to go through all that!?
Sadl yes. More or less many patients had to go through the horrors of these hospitals...
@@aliceDarts that is true but i know for a fact if someone walk into an abandon hospital they would be pissing their pants, but why do they willingly go into those type of places ?
@@StrikerK5 They go to explore and make videos, but they only do it in groups. I would be more impressed if someone went alone and spent a night there. That would definitely be peak bravery.
And worse 😔
@@JoshCollins45I try to do that sometimes but with little budget I have to invite others to pay for the trip and most of the time they want to go to the haunted places with me. XD
Actually, I am a physician IRL. The scariest thing for me is when the hospital becomes very crowded and I get to see tons of patients continuously without rest 😅. I wana help em all but sometimes we need a short break to breathe and relax , but , sadly most patients don’t understand this and want you to work fast and see them immediately and continuously .
Very true. I've been present in crowded hospitals to visit relatives, and I seriously can't imagine being in the doctor's shoes in such situations. It's definitely tough to deal with all of that and handle people with all kinds of attitudes. Big respect for you.
agreed. i am a dental student right now and i have been threatened by a patient that they were going to sue the hospital if the dentist treating them wasn't called this instant when they were clearly priorly told that day would not be possible because the practioner treating them was supposed to attend a seminar during the patient's preferred time. and it wasnt anything serious, it was simply scaling and polishing.
Yeah, overworked doctors make mistakes. And it's a trade where long shifts and lack of rest is common. They need breaks, they need proper shift lengths. And it's a situation with too few professionals for too many patients.
A mistake there can literally cost lives, so we all should have a thought about how much of an emergency we really are.
Not saying that emergencies shouldn't be treated urgently. But maybe waiting a couple minutes is worth it.
Never been life-threateningly ill myself, but even when it was bad, I had the understanding to know that there might be people who need help more urgently than me.
I’ve been there. It’s tough and it feels like no one wants to hear it. Hang in there.
my heart goes out to nurses and doctors during the worst of times like the pandemic and when things are hectic, it has to be maddening to want to help everyone but having no energy, emotionally or physically, to be able to.
Sanatoriums are a whole different ballgame. They and asylums were most often dumping grounds for those who didn't want to deal with certain members of their families anymore. Husbands could sign their wives in and just be rid of them.
Good to know. So if I ever want my wife gone, I just send her to an asylum? That simple?
most patients if not all (from the hospital i researched for school) were women. (la salpetrière used to be for orphans, homeless men then women) you could get put in because your father wanted to because you're a disgrace to your family. i vaguely looked into its history and during the revolution women were taken, killed and assaulted.
they tested women completly naked in front of rows of men to study their epilepsy, or trauma responses from potential sa.
the doctor charcot was the primary doctor looking for the causes and triggers of "hysteria" by practicing hypnosis, its said that he wasn't really trying to find a cure to it. his student sigmund freud is the one who did try to find the cure to, trauma.
Funny enough the house I live in used to be part of a sanitarium
@@falcongamingproductions9938 oh damn any ghosts?
@@MurderHorse I hear weird noises sometimes but it's hard to tell tbh. Usually it's small stuff that could just be the house since it's so old but there was a time that I swore I was hearing super raspy breathing (which would make sense, by house in particular was part of the TB ward). My mom had also told me she's heard voices in one of the rooms in our house. Never seen anything though so I can't be sure fr
I used to have a crippling fear of hospitals, specifically psych wards. It was bad to the point that i wasnt able to drive by a hospital without having a full on panic attack. But then i was actually admitted to a psychiatric hospital during a very bad suicidal episode. I wouldn't call the experience "good" but it certainly wasnt nearly as scary as i thought it would be. Almost every single person i met, both the staff and other patients, were incredibly kind and supportive. It wasnt your stereotypical "insane asylum".
I wish I had that experience.
I voluntarily went to a psych ward.
They took me 3 hours away from home, told none of my family members where I was even when I asked them to.
The actual stay I was neglected and none of the nurses spoke to me.
I told them I had food allergies and instead of being given a meal I was given an apple and water for 2 weeks.
The doctor/psychologist only came to the ward once a week, so even if you were supposed to leave that day if he didn't come to sign you out you couldn't leave.
I was there for severe sewer slide ideation.
It sadly made it worse not better. T.T
@@caseyp3447that's honestly crazy. how old were you at the time? and you seriously couldn't leave? like shit I would've went crazy if the only thing that I had to eat was an apple and water for two weeks lol.
and what did u do in there? like u were a voluntary right, what was ur job? I'm just curious bro
@Moli05 I was 20 and worked at Subway.
I went in voluntarily because the sewer slide ideation was getting really bad.
I went to my local hospital and told them I wanted to go. They put me in a van and sent me to Phoenix az.
It was during covid, and they didn't even give us daily activities. We just walked up and down the halls or watched the one t.v with all the other patients. No outside time, nothing.
I feel like a psyc ward experience can never be “good” because you’re in there for a reason and if you’re there you already aren’t doing well.
@SomeRandomEcho I get that, but the nurses and doctors should be kind to you.
You should not be left with nothing to do the entire time you are awake. As that can make ot worse.
Vitamin D, aka outside, has been known to help with certain conditions.
You are miserable going in, but they should not be making you more miserable. You went in to get help not to be harmed more.
Being a doctor is supposed to be a noble job profession, but somehow, humans even managed to corrupt that too.
Yup
@kalinaribic6383 it ain't that hard to fuck up the profession of a doctor
Even though hospitals is supposed to be a places of healing, every hospital is enevitably also a place of pain, suffering and death. If you're end up in a hospital, it's never for something good. Sights you can see there is also not most pleasants. When I was in intensive care, I witnessed two deaths plus additional one when I was transferred to general ward. You can imagine how "optimistic" I was, considering my own condition, which is also nearly resulted in death. Oh, and a few years earlier my mother died in the same hospital, from the same illness I have.
People today have a very wrong understanding when they think that getting sentenced to be confined in a psychiatric hospital is a better deal than the prison in the justice system. It's literally worse. I have friends who work in both prisons and psychiatric wards, and they told me that being in a prison today is much better than a psychiatric ward. Even though the standards of asylums in general today are way more modern and different than in the past, there's still the idea that being a patient there means that you're not a normal human being that can be dealt with within the limits of regular measures. In prison, when you get into trouble, you can at least be taken seriously when you testify or explain yourself. In asylums, if you behave outside the norm too much, the staff will think that you can't control yourself and they need to "calm" you down.
But do they, y'know, do the thing that rhymes with cakes to you against your will in asylums?
@@feameldodepends on the staff
It can also be worse from a social perspective. Your history of being admitted to a psychiatric ward can sometimes give you a worse reputation among people compared to spending some prison time for a casual issue. Some people wouldn't forget it, and they'll always look at you differently because the general stereotypical mentality of society still sees asylum patients in a very bad light.
And then the fact that it's much harder to be released when you got better.
When you're in prison, and you behave right, and do all the tasks and trainings and show improvement, you can be released even before your sentence is done.
But in a mental institution trying to convince that you're really "cured" is extremely hard.
When you said that it gets even worse a Temu ad poped up 💀
So I used to work in a nursing home- and let me tell you! I think honestly any medical facility is haunted! Like I didn’t have extremely scary experiences but a few to be a bit weird/spooky 😂 might be kinda cool if a horror game was made about a nursing home
The history of nursing homes is pretty close to hospitals. A video about them would be similar to this one in many aspects. It doesn't apply to every one of course, but even today you can find ones where neglect and lack of empathy are existent, which leads to many sad stories. So yes, a nursing home would be a good setting for a horror game.
There was a time when my grandma had to stay at my family's house so we can take care of her and oh boy sometimes she'd be up in the middle of the night complaining about someone being on her bed or asking who the people outside are (keeping in mind, it tends to be only me and her at night as my parents work night shifts and we live in a relatively quiet neighborhood). Both my mom and one of my friends has experience in working with elderly patients and I'm sure you'd agree this isn't uncommon. So I can bet it's quite an experience to watch elderly residents and patients to bend down and smile at an empty spot and talk as if to a small child or a pet, or to enter a room and see a resident yelling and screaming at the empty corner of their room.
@@Rockhoppr3 oh yeah! I heard of a couple of times about my aunt and the one that just makes me sad not so much scared- is that she used to see/talk to my cousin Jeremy. Now mind you my cousin Tim (her middle child) has a son named that. She had a stillbirth. Her last son was named Jeremy (who Tim’s son was named after). She would talk to her dead son. Would say he was with her…
Logically yeah, people go there to get better, but my gut always makes me feel a sense of uneasy and fear when you see people sick or hanging by a thread, specially if they are a relative. To me it feels more like a place of death than even cemetery because of the sense of unknown. At the morgue it's over, you know they are gone. But in a hospital? It just makes you fear the future and that possibility that maybe one that that's gonna be you in one of those beds.
Maybe that's a fear that is not so much explored, as most stories rely too much on ghosts, maniacs or straight up monsters.
Sometimes they had a funny story in patient, someone told me in his experience working in mental hospital, he met a neat patient, can speak clearly, looking like a healthy person.
he confused " why this patient who still sane in this hospital? ".
Being a curios person, he decided to bravely ask the patient the reason why he is in Hospital. With a proud and convincing tone, he explains
" IN MY BODY RESIDE A DRAGON"
"FUS RO DAH! "
For the Clawed Omnisiah
That's more sane than a lot of people I see in public.
I played Call of Cthulhu and that asylum was terrifying. The moment I knew I was in it, I knew something bad was going to happen. Anytime, I'm playing a game where the protagonist is in a mental hospital, I immediately become tense and scared.
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The frogware version, is anything as near as the old Call of Chthulu game for both pc and Xbox AKA Call of Cthulhu: Dark corners of the earth. If you did not play it yet make sure to do it eventually. As the asylum stage there, is the real deal.
Also, "the town of light", it depicts exactly the abuses on which the mental diseases patients, the patients and the staffs as well have been through...
It is not fiction, also it has been set in my country though. WARNING Strong disturbing contents, you have been awared.
When I was 18 in 2012. I was staying in a hospital when I was being seen when I couldn’t see in my left eye and then they found out later I had Multiple Sclerosis nearby my birthday while I was at the hospital. I would be scared at night because I was alone in a hospital room. And I didn’t like being in the dark by myself when it was night time. I would leave the tv left on while I tried to sleep. I’m still scared of the dark though. And a nice old lady later stayed in the same room who was nice. She was a Jewish lady who survived in the holocaust. I didn’t know she was when my friend came to visit me at the hospital and was talking to her too. I don’t like staying the hospital by myself. I don’t like the dark. The dark scares me sometimes.
@@Lolalovesu
Do not underestimate it, the dark scares every time, but remember it only takes a candle to fend off the darkness themselves. Be that candle, shine and burn like a flame, and fear no evil life is anything but an illusion, as happiness is but a tear.🖤
Hi thank you very much ❤️.
@@Lolalovesu
No worries, happy of being of any help there be safe. 🙏🏻
P.S. life is more than we actually believe it is, what fate lies beyond of her veil? Is only for each and any of us to be found.🌌 Nobody is truly alone, so no matter the struggle, never back down.🖤🗡👋🏻
In other words, you should always be careful of the horror that is the government.
Exactly.
Well said, besides if they even lied about the alien existence for years, and the chemicaltrays that have been irrevokably broken our weather and shape it at their leisure, causing natural disaster like downbursts and heavy storms, or the pandemic itself on terms of deaths number, they cannot be trusted anymore. As the worse is yet to come either regrettably.
Stay free, be safe!
Yes, BUT
The alternative is getting services from private sources, which inherently pits life, liberty, and rights against profit motive, and for-profit companies will prioritize money anywhere possible because that's their legally-obligated purpose.
The solution isn't to give up on government, but to work to make it better.
@@pbrown7501 ha! Ha! Ha! Impressive how people tries to advocate for government. To begin with, governments are the ones making people insane.
Private services seek profit and that's the question: you can't profit if people notice you're not doing a good job. Governments don't seek profit, they seek votes and taxes. They have no reason to do a good service, cuz they don't have competition. What you gonna do? Choose another government? You can't! But you can choose between different private entrerprises.
Governments aren't useful, aren't essencials. They're incompetent, but they want to convince you otherwise cuz they want your money. Private companies want your money too, but they are honest about it. They know you'll choose the ones that offers the best services. Unlike governments, private enterprises have too much to lose.
Almost all of these were private institutions? lmao
"Hospitals were not always used by doctors" gave me chills.
Places that are usually packed and busy during the day are unsettling when they're empty at night
The power of liminal spaces.
Hospitals are, in general, places of tragedy: illness and death, along with the emotional turmoil that goes with these.
They are places of horror in the sense that many unethical, cruel and shocking experiments were performed on patients against their will, especially mental patients and prisoners of war. Some of these experiments could have been associated with the occult, but IMO that's rather an exaggeration.
The best thing a doctor could say to you is "I hope I never see you again"
I wasn't afraid of hospitals originally, but then a bad event gave me PTSD.
what was the event?
When my father got covid only tho months since the lockdown started, he almost died due to a bad praxis from the nurses, they made holes in the oxygen masks so his condition gets worse, in order to put him in the ICUs and make us pay thousands of dollars. Thank god my father noticed this and they stopped, i think not only the nurses, but even the doctors were involved. Yes, hostpitals do this, dont trust anyone regarding your health. I can now understand why people can fear hospitals the same way as cemeteries.
Can't believe you went the whole video without mentioning Shalebridge Cradle from Thief: Deadly Shadows. For one mission it was surprisingly deep in lore, and a lot of the experiments and practices you mentioned are present. Even creepier considering that it was an orphanage first, with a transitional period where both orphaned children and mental patients were housed.
Another good example of a horror game with an asylum could be Fran Bow in which the first section of the game is you (as i believe 13 year old) in a children's asylum trying to escape. It's quite scary to walk through the rooms and see all the children and their different conditions.
Even dismissed asylums, places filled by unspeakable: pain, suffering, grief and most of the times even revenge imho.
What is revenge imho?
@@kalinaribic6383 The op was sayind the places were filled with the four; suffering, pain, grief and revenge, I guess shortening it made it ambiguious, and imho means 'In my humple opinion'.
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Seems you got to the point, even if in such an oddly way. Never heard a foregneir speaking I take it?
@@kalinaribic6383
Internet slang, this unknown.
@@SamuraiKensei276 More like english isn't my first language, but I was simply explaining to the other person, I understood what you meant, even if the grammar was a tad confusing.
You did a great job with this topic, The CIA experiments past, present and future are terrifying! I started wondering about other ways they get subjects and scared myself.
I have never liked hospitals, if you've ever had the chance to wander around a hospital until the staff directs you back out to a waiting room, then you know how creepy the long liminal hallways are and there are creepy sounds. I got lost at about midnight and got on a Staff Only elevator, I thought for sure I was going to end up in the morgue, it was scary. An orderly -caught- rescued me and directed me to my family member's floor. Then I wandered some more... This was Scripps Mercy Hospital in San Diego, California. It's a beautiful hospital and huge- this is why I got lost there.
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Especially from the past imho.
Considering that Mercy Hospital is more than 130 years old, I'm pretty sure plenty of unsettling stuff happened there in the past that can make it a good candidate for paranormal incidents.
The more I hear and read about the stuff they did over the times, the more am I convinced that they're an organization of evil.
As an autistic person, I’ve always found mental asylums to be absolutely terrifying, thinking of how if I was born just a few years earlier,my life might be a living hell just because I think differently.
“Hospitals are a place known for healing and fighting death” not when one of your best medic is known as the “Lady with the scythe”
Hospitals have huge backrooms energy. Their sterile, artificial, yet paradoxically populated nature lend perfectly towards a liminal space the moment they’re empty, which automatically causes discomfort for a lot of people. This is all before the vulnerability aspect is taken into account.
The thing that makes me personally troubled of these haunted hospitals in videogames is the fact that some hospitals in real life (and especially very many mental asylums) had a real and proven history of at times incredibly cruel treatment for their patients. So, like, when I see those hospitals and mental asylums in game, I often thing, like, "damn, a similar thing might have happened to an actual real person in the past." like, you know, usually not quite as gruesome or shocking than what is displayed in most video games, but still extremely horrible.
Talk to any person who worked in a hospital for long enough time, especially night shift, and they almost always have some story to tell about a strange experience they had there. Either directly or to a colleague
Hospitals are also places of a bureaucracy patients don't get to understand because nobody bothers explaining it to them. I dunno about in the US, but here in Europe doctors can be so incredibly arrogant and fail to understand the importance of communication with and respecting the patient. I'd be surprised if that enormous failure isn't part of hospitals being places of fictional horror. Of course, in the US you also have the dreadful aspect of going bankrupt over breaking your leg or whatevs.
And right now, my beloved girl is about to go to a mental hospital too. Perfect timming. 😢
Make sure they give you visitation to her.
Make sure they are giving hee proper nutrition and that they don't leave her alone for long periods of time.
I went willingly after I had issues. They did not tell my family where I was, refused to deal with my food allergies and left me alone for hours at a time.
Please check up on her as much as you can.
@@caseyp3447 thanks! Actually, they tried a different aproach: she is in some relative's house, away from her home(maybe the problem was in her home, which belongs to her stepdad). Her mom is with her and she is concentrating her time on her studies.
@@TawJev I'm glad that she didn't go, hopefully she is doing much better now.
Feeling safe and comfortable in a home and surrounded by loved ones and support is much better than hospitals.
@@caseyp3447 I'm glad too. But the sad thing is that I thought I have saved her.
You know, I was in deep sh1t. I dealt with injustices by seeking dark stuff. I won't tell you what they were, but it was routune for me.
When she appeared, everything changed. She's so great, so kind, so innocent that only looking at her face it was enough to touch my conscience. I got ashamed of my bad stuff. I repent. I gave up that sh1t and confessed about it to her. She never judged me, and she was glad that I took that decision. Because of her I liked to live for the first time.
One day, she confessed to me that, before she had met me, she was thinking on taking her own life. She promissed me she wouldn't try to hurt herself again. For the first time I didn't feel like a piece of trash. I felt like a was useful to this world. Imagine saving soneone's life. Imagine saving your lover's life. I felt so great.
But then, one day she said me she was about to go to internation because she was thinking in doing that again. It was so sad that she was like that again. And I got sad because she doesn't seem to love me as I love her. She gave me reason to live and an objective for my life. But even I am not a reason enough for her to continue to live. I think I didn't save her after all.
I had a good experience when I was in hospital (public too, not private!) after giving birth to my son. I was so overwhelmed and exhausted and I doubted my ability to care for my son as a new mother. Suddenly, after feeling truly hopeless and in despair, this amazing energy washed over me, full of love, reassurance and many other positive feelings. It was as though either an angel, spirit guide or a former nurse had visited me in spirit. I was much better after that and was buoyed by hope.
anything is spooky when its dark enough
What do you mean I'm terrified of hospital in video games? I'm terrified of hospitals in real life too.
The most disturbing thing about this video is that I think I've seen it with a half-dozen different thumbnails now in my recommended, lol.
Why is it always changing, and with new captions?!
Hospitals , especially Mental asylums are horrifying. In video games, the level of horror become infinite. I have played Manhunt II and there the mental asylum sequence was terrifying.
I really enjoy these videos you're making. I love the real life and the gaming aspecta you talk about.
i think it would be great to have a game where where we're locked in an abondened hospital where we gather resources for our own defence against the others who are also locked in the hospital and there should be asymmitrical online players too but at first we shouldn't be able to differenciate them from the others
5:23 KENTUCKY MENTIONED!!!!! that place is like a 30 minute drive for me. It’s such a dark disturbing history and I have a morbid sense of thankfulness to be near it and know of it. The illusion of safety in a hospital was shattered pretty early for me because of the stories I heard of Waverly Hills. I suppose it had that effect on most of Louisville too. It’s pretty cool that we are able to learn and grow from something so haunting.
what a fascinating video! i actually work night shifts in the emergency room and would like to add a contribution from a new perspective! hospitals... fuckin creepy when they are empty. and some wings are haunted, and have energies that are not happy when you are up there with them. we have a wing that used to be uh, bascially, the comfort care (where we kept peope comfortable until they passed) and it's only used in the daytime now. you still have to check the area at night. i've always gotten bad feelings at night, and my coworkers who regularly go trhough the areas always talk about bad feelings and weird experiences.
the examples you use are very valid! these are places that leave a horrible energy behind, of unresolved conflicts. these are places proven to be haunted, and in some cases, dangerously haunted. i realize these seem to specifically psychiatric facilities, but even straight up medical facilities can be just as unnerving in the right setting. i think the only unit i've ever felt comfortable in has been labor and delivery.
bro said "fresh clean air" and "sunlight" like he was describing the lobotomy rates at the time
Thank you for pointing something so "normal" out. I never thought of thinking about real things with the game things.
electroshock therapy is still used today to treat refractory depression (depression that does not respond to drugs/counseling)
Patients swear by it. I have a patient that comes in every 3 months on the clock to get his ECST.
I used to work in a major trauma center where I live so this hospital saw a higher amount of deaths/severe injuries then typical. I'm a lab tech and the storage rooms for our particular lab were in the basement. You had to walk past the morgue to get to the storage rooms and my favorite co-worker used to go down there with me when we had to bring up more supplies than usual. She'd act like she could see ghosts and would talk to them, trying to freak me out 😅😅😅
Sometimes I miss that job. Not the hospital itself or the admin but the people I worked with were pretty awesome.
I thought of few things after watching this video.
Medic from Team Fortress 2. I always thought they just made a funny and looney German doctor character who has no medical license and does crazy experiments. Now I kinda think at one point in history there probably was a doctor like him.
Also Arkham Asylum isn't really a horror game but now I understand why while playing it made me feel so tense and scared, despite playing as one of the badass superheroes, Batman.
I mean, the most famous experimental German doctor is Dr Mengele, who was a figure of nightmare during the Holocaust.
Probably the only 'medical' thing worse than him is Unit 731, in part due to the tens of thousands of people they subjected to lethal experimentation without anesthesic. In part due to the fact the U.S government covered it up, allowing people with higher kill counts than Ted Bundy to continue being respected figures in the medical world.
Don't forget the movie "Return to Oz."
I love your content, keep it up Disturbing Historical facts are my favorite
one of the mental hospitals i went to had doors on the ceiling and when i asked what they were for, they said that they used to put kids up there when for "personal seclusion" porpouses
Nah the silent hill 2 one wasn't as convincing as it should've been. In terms of malpractice and doctors own intents silent hill 1 is much better for that. With silent hill 2 it's a case of, they're keeping her alive. That's it. She thinks it's because they make money off her being alive. Which is true, the US health care system does work like that. However it can also be argued that they're literally doing their job, just keeping her alive. She wants to be euthanized but that's not legal so they keep her alive. Not so evil unless from her POV. Silent Hill 1 though, they keep a young girl with sever burns under the hospital in a small cell, forcing her to stay alive for an evil cult and don't care the ramifications that has on her nurse. Much more nefarious and way less immoraly questionable.
3:29 you just described the whole USA medcare system. The quote goes from 3:29 to 3:55.
One other thing i think is that hospitals are known for safety or fixing but when it is in horror games are assumptions are flipped to think they are there for pain and death. Especially when you think spirits stay at the hospitals when they died
Hospitals are the best part of a horror game imo ❤
I've driven past old Chanji Hospital in the past
it's really eerie
I think it's already being rebuilt by something else but its just very unsettling.
im from Singapore . thanks for featuring one of our haunted locations ! Old Changi Hospital 29:13 theres a wiki entry in Changi Hospital also .
i have gone to 2 "asylums" in my state and most have been good, but one time there was this tech who was always creepy towards me, and detained me by herself right after i got out of the shower and i was yelling because all i was detained for was having a tic and accidentally slapping my chest and she pulled my hair and punched me, it was not fun
I would wager it's because hospitals are so sterile and sanitized, bland and white... They have almost none of the hallmarks of a person's home. They're not really designed to be comfortable. They're purely for function. It's hard to feel comfortable in a place like that.
I need to point out that present-day electroshock therapy is 1) painless, 2) very effective. Great material otherwise.
Kind ofdownplaying the potential memory issues there.
I'm surprised you didn't even mention graveyards/cemetaries in the first bit, like literally, you can't have a horror game without a few graves
7:45 Beyond natural? No. Beyond humane? Yes.
Natural isn't ever really used correctly in the human language, fucked up stuff is very normal in the "Animal/Natural world.
Any horrible behaviour you can imagine is" natural" and normal among non-civilized animals.
The terrible thing is that humans are civilized and some still choose to do those things.
As I'm watching this now, my 66 year old grandmother is in the hospital...
it sucks that NOONE is making real horror survival multiplayer game. All we see is just a fng story based single player games. And yeah...what i heard most devs cant make multiplayer games
that may be one of the most difficult things to pull off. creating a horror game requires a sense of vulnerability and tension, which can be lost when being with friends.
having company makes things less scary and the tension that comes from silence or far away sounds less impactful.
so while I agree that it would be an interesting game to play, I doubt we'll see one any time soon
Texas Chainsaw Massacre? Anyone?
@@TawJev that's not story based. It is a replayability based game with asymmetrical gameplay up front.
And don't get me wrong, it's a fun and enjoyable game, but it is primarily a mechanics driven game.
While it can be filled with tension at times (and the same can be said for the Friday the 13th, Dead by daylight and even the mess that was Resident Evil resistance), it is mostly a game of cat and mouse with extra elements. It is not a story driven experience.
Even games like phasmophobia get closer to being scarier, but still, not driven by a story
@@joshgd86 but how to make a story based multiplayer game? Have any ideas? A story must be linear to be well written. The multiplayer element doesn't allow linearity. I think it's really difficult - if even possible - to make horror multiplayer game with non-linear story that works. Maybe that's the reason we just see "mechanics driven" games like these you mentioned.
@@TawJev agreed, it is difficult. But I'm not sure that multiplayer can't be linear.
You could have stories intertwined by segments. Similar to what is seen in "a way out" or you could have a co-op game similar to resident evil 5 & 6.
You could also have a game where you can be the "killer" or villain with a story worked on through a story opposite to the other player (or players), like the other side of the coin; maybe making it seem that it was not a villainous character, just a different perspective.
Narratively speaking there are many possibilities, but mechanically it would be very difficult, especially if the players are meant to interact with each other frequently or all the time.
Another option would be a game that plays as an escape room. Where players have only a radio to communicate with each other to solve procedurally generated puzzles before something happens to one of them, forcing cooperation while saving each other. The puzzles could be related to the player's background, which could be given by predetermined characters or by psychometric tests taken on the character creation menu before the game starts.
I honestly wish I had the talent to develop games, cause it is an unexplored terrain. And maybe my ideas aren't good enough or hard to pull off, but If I came up with that, maybe someone more talented can come up with something better. With the right team, it would be an interesting experience
Alice: Madness Returns mentioned! This game really does explore the worst ways we used to treat those who had mental and emotional struggles related to trauma.
The first The Evil Within game is my most favorite "hospital" horror game.
Electroshock actually works when used right. The patient is sedated first (called "modified electroshock therapy)
"hospitals are places where life is saved and death is confronted" when unfathomably hard
It is the gateway between worlds afterall and all kinds of people die in there for all kinds of reasons and manners. Its very crowded as well too.
if i lived in that time, my opinions wouldve gotten me hospitalized 10 years ago
Today in general states instead of directly inprisoning dissidents and troublemakers they send them to mental institutions. This has also been done in the past.
Hadn’t seen the old SciFi channel logo in a long time, that alone was worth the watch.
Love how he calls the whole "the doctors dont care about the patients and just want the most money from them as possible" is actually the case with real hospitals.
Only in places with a for profit medical industry.
I love Outlast’s setting of mount massive asylum. Easily my favorite building in horror.
"Hospitals... where Life is saved and Death is confronted." Not in my experience.
For me:
Hospitals... where Life was ruined and Death introduced. Everything stolen... I want it back.
Welcome to the American Healthcare System
Tfw Kazza mentiones a hospital nearby where you live, that you had no idea was like these: 💀
that ball is too modern to be one from the tuberculosis outbreak
Electroshock therapy actually works for depression and a few other things like that in small doses.
Left my mom extremely forgetful though. She is unable to go back to college because of it.
@@aquaticalateralis Sorry to hear :c
I had a treatment done on my head that used magnets. Now I have tinnitus and can never be in a quiet room ever again.
@@DrawinskyMoon Damn, dude, I cannot express how sorry I am for you. That sounds like a nightmare!
That's a good and entertaining analysis. At its heart, I think, it's not that compicated. Hospitals are places where you are not in control of your own self, more or less. Even for a simple check-up, you eat what they give you, you go to sleep at an appointed time, you have an IV on that restricts movement. It doesn't even have to be ill-intentioned; it's our natural reflex to feel uncomfortable in any position where other people have the final word on you, especially if they are authority that you're rarely qualified to dispute and can be basically all-powerful within the institution's walls. That such positions, which include power sometimes over life and death, certainly health and comfort, over a human being, attract sinister people is unfortunately a given. And all that happened in the past and still happens, coupled with the private tragedies, the fear of disease or death and the eternal anxiety of discovering illness in yourself create just the cocktail, so the only people who feel mostly at ease are those whose conditions are so debilitating irl that being treated can only be relieving or life-saving, and sometimes not even they do.
There is a reasion why I am afraid of doctors since I was a child. The idea to let them do whatever with my body is scary.
man, what the hell. This is all 100 times worse and scarier than just video game hospitals.
i also went to the seclusion room in one of the mental hospitals and it was just a room made of rubber, it stank like piss and had barf and blood stains all over it. i soon found out why when they wouldn't feed me, let me use the bathroom, didnt give me water for 12 hours. they locked me in there and left the blaring lights on with silence for 12 hours. it was horrible.
Reason for Admission: POLITICS
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- Well, even a broken clock can be right twice a day. 😉
Absolutely! Damn, even more when such hospitals have like the patient zero of some lethal virus or Fungus (TLOU), a mental asylum... damn Thinking about all the infected or Spirits
I think WatchMojo might want to do a top 10 or 30 list on mental health asylums/hospitals that help inspired horry games
tbf to your intro, anywhere death is confronted could easily be manipulated to be scary. death is scary.
When I went to Waverly it was a very interesting experience. This may sound like hooey to some people, but I'm relaying precisely how it went down for me, be it all in my imagination, or something more real. I went at night with some of my friends and we were in a small grouping of perhaps around 15 people. I've been to other haunted places. There's always a certain energy about them, sometimes its more positive, sometimes it's more sinister. I'm not sure if I can explain it properly but, I get really anxious in large groupings of people. I only had my friends by me, the other people in our group were sticking to their own friends/family. Yet, immediately upon walking into the place I felt cramped. It was like walking through a busy street during the middle of the day, it set me on edge. This happens in a lot of the haunted places I go to, with some I don't even know they are haunted til after the fact. I always have a little moment of "*Oh*, well that explains it!" Whenever that happens. Anyway, to date, Waverly is one of the places that have truly overwhelmed me with the massive amount of energy it gave off. My whole entire body was buzzing like all my limbs had gone to sleep the entire time I was there. The weird thing is, normally when that happens I have to fight to stave off a panic attack, or remove myself from the premises entirely, but at Waverly I was on edge, but also strangely elated. There was a friendly, calm atmosphere that, despite the dark, creepy hospital ruins, kept me stable throughout the whole experience. It was like going to a party that is full of your favorite people. Yeah, its cramped and full of bodies, but they're bodies you don't mind being around and don't mind if they accidentally bump into you or not because you trust them and they trust you. The whole two hours I was there I felt wired yet also calm. I'm normally pretty afraid of the dark but I ended up volunteering to be one of the people to walk down to the middle of a really dark hallway alone. I just felt welcomed anywhere I went throughout most of the building. There were a spare few places that I didn’t feel that same warmth though, the morgue was one of those places. I felt bad because our guide was talking about it and sharing cool stories but I barely listened because I was trying so hard not to just run out of that room. It wasn't the same as the normal "This room is full of people I can't see" anxiety though. In fact, other than our group the room felt nearly empty. It felt instead like I was being stalked and hunted by something malicious and angry. Needless to say, I was more than happy to gtfo of that room all together. Also, immediately upon leaving the Sanitarium I went from full batteries wired, to almost passing out. I crashed on my friend's couch upon arriving at their place, instead of driving the 7 minutes it took to get back to mine and I don't think I've slept that hard probably ever. There were quite a few more really strange things that happened to me there, but I just wanted to share the basic feel of the place. For the most part, I really wanna go back at some point. The history of the place is fascinating and its one of the few haunted places where I've felt truly welcomed.
These treatments might be harsh but, we cant deny because of those inhuman things in the past ,the medical department is able to treat people in human way today
We had a big old TB hospital built way back in the woods that was huge and then turned into a metal asylum. Just like Waverly , body tunnel and all. Ours didnt shut down till they built the Mohegan Sun casino in CT. The hosp. is right across the river from it. Norwich Mental Hospital.
21:14 WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS ENTIRE FUCKING LIST??!!! 😮😮😮
I'm more afraid of school maps in horror games than hospital maps 💀
Mental instituitions are horrible to this day. My cousin was starved to death in one of these.
Even without the horror. I still have to force myself to go to the hospital. And like you said , that's where you should go to get better. But I still feel uneasy to go . Even though I know it's not rational.
Plot twist: Everybody is just subconsciously really scared of needles
Nice video ❤
My older sister experience this scary one she used to be a nurse at that one hospital
But there is only small amount of worker working there the reason is many have said that sometimes they saw some figures or heard some scream in there and that one person saw these crazy creature and ran away and never came back to the hospital because the person is so scared and 😢that was my older sister experience too she hearing weird crying one room some times in the hallway so she is terrified that she resign
I love hospitals so much. ❤❤❤
Nice thumbnail right there. I miss DM pranks 😭
Especially mental hospital. l fear mentally ill people more than supernatural entities. Just imagining how much insane and ruthless they can be after their death scares me even more.