Great review! We took delivery of our EV6 instead of the MachE mostly because of availability (still no build date). We don’t feel like we compromised at all.
It's quite strange when you see the rolling footage, it looks like a small hatchback. Then when you see Tom sitting in it, it's actually a pretty big vehicle.
My brain couldn't make sense of Tom sitting in the open door. It was like the visual tricks used in Lord of the Rings to make Gandalf look so much bigger than the hobbits.
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EV6 is so sharp looking! Bummer it doesn't have a full glass roof because it's super dark in the cabin with those small windows. 4.5 seconds to 60mph in the AWD is crazy quick and will even beat a Tesla Model Y off the line.
Not in Seattle but it’s suburbs, mostly the Eastside. Bellevue, Redmond, Sammamish and Kirkland. Most people don’t want to go into the downtown anymore
7 seconds IS fairly quick for the average car. Though I think EVs have another advantage in that you get power right off the line, so it's gonna feel quicker than a gas car with the same 0-60.
That is very true. I own a Tesla Model S but rented a Toyota Prius Prime recently on a trip. The Prius in EV mode feels plenty fast and even squealed the tires. It got me thinking that 0-60 is really not useful for around town driving. I would like to see more 0-30 comparisons with ICE vehicles of the same class.
This is because most reasonable people need to accelerate fast up to low speeds whole in traffic and not all the way to 60. Maximum torque at zero speed is what most EVs can give.
Just picked up a matte grey EV6 GT-Line AWD First Edition. How nice is it? I traded my Mercedes AMG in and I feel like I upgraded. It's an amazing car and quick. Instant torque will make you smile. Done paying crazy gas prices and will soon trade my nice Mazda CX9 in for a 2nd EV as well!
Yup. Went to test drive an EV6 with a friend. They had a few in stock, and each one had $5k worth of dealer add-ons, pushing most models well over $60k.
That’s most dealers from any brand at this point but the good thing is, you as a consumer do have choice not to buy from them and there are dealers who don’t markup and will ship the car to you or you could pick it up yourself. The only brand not doing this is Tesla but even then I don’t think the general public who applaud them for it realize that they’ve raised prices a few times (more than model year changes) since the chip shortage started so it’s a choose your battle situation in this market.
@@DrivenCarReviews Yes, patience and some text/email leg work is needed to get one of these at MSRP. First car I've ever purchased at MSRP a sign of the times I'm afraid.
Nice review. It doesn't weight 5300 lbs though. That is the GVWR (gross vehicle weight rating). Actual weight is closer to 4400 lbs depending on trims.
I just got a WInd RWD, and it is sublime. I get giddy every time I walk up to it. The interior (in my opinion ofc) is nicer than many more expensive cars that feel a bit gaudy or outdated.
GT-Line GT are sold out in CA and literally disappear within hours of inventory allotment so I had to "make do" with the Wind AWD but it's still a wonderful car lacking only a sunroof and 20" wheels. Perfect daily driver with 274 mile range for suburban commute but its 4.5 0-60 does not feel as fast as my C40 (also rate at 4.5) and feels closer to 5 - still very good. I am getting getting real world ranges consistent with the 274 EPA range but keeping it charged between 15% and 85% means real world 200 miles of usable range but I always drive in "sport mode" so I'm getting closer to 180 miles. What it beats Tesla and Porsche, with a real "fast charger" I've personally seen it give me over 100 miles of range (from 20%) in under 10 minutes - this is a game changer. And getting ventilated seats for under $55K is pretty great. The Meridian audio system is AMAZING and impressive, well balanced, and obviously needs a real subwoofer. One pedal driving is more aggressive (what I prefer) in "Sport Mode" and is most similar to the C40 which I believe is class leading.
@@markmcintosh7095 I was at a Kia dealer in the bay area. The salesperson wouldn't start the car; only allowed to sit in it. Also wouldn't provide a price unless I was willing to sitdown with the sale manager. Love the car but its probably a few years off before you can get one.
@@dchow007 Bay Area here too. A buddy told me a dealer wants $5K ADM. He doesn’t need a car that badly so he walked, will keep his ICE car for another couples of years.
@@jml9550 $5K buys a lot of gas. My 1999 Sienna still runs well. Gas guzzler and definitely showing wear and tear. I will be waiting too and keeping an eye for other EVs coming out.
This is an awesome car. I had a chance to check out the EV6 when I brought my Soul in for routine maintenance. The biggest problem I have with the EV6 is the price. At $56k, the EV6 is $20k more than my 2021 Soul EX. Just came back from a trip up north in Wisconsin and averaged 35 mpg. Living in an apartment and having to park on the street also poses a problem with having an electric vehicle. A hybrid would be more practical. Other than that, KIA did a wonderful job on the EV6.
Switching between AC and Audio controls without all the clutter... and keeping the knob control for both... I love this idea. I'm sad most of the journalists (not all) are crapping on it.
Fr, I love that idea. It frees up the clutter. My car has dual zone auto climate control and I love it because I don’t have to think about it. I just get in it and go unless there was a drastic change in temperature, then I’ll change it, but that’s only 10 seconds of my time in the car doing that. If you know how to use it, then the radio controls are what it’ll be set on most of the time and even then most of the stuff is done on the steering wheel.
@@jraheemjefcoat429 Not an ageism issue. It's basic ergonomics. Never make something a two-step operation when it can be one step, especially controls that are used often. Talk to an engineer and they'll tell you that the volume knob is one of the top used controls, right after the transmission selector, HVAC controls and turn signals (for some drivers anyways).
You can set either of the menus as default and then it toggles back after a few seconds if you change to the other screen. I prefer the infotainment (volume) setting as standard. Then volume control is always there and it is just one tap to change climate settings. Just tap and hold for 3 sec to set default screen
@@DrivenCarReviews We can agree to disagree..I observe opinions from younger Journalists and mature ones..The Younger ones dig this technology...I think it's innovative and makes the infotainment flush and minimalistic than having all of those buttons. Welcome to 2022...The future is here!
My goodness. An EV that looks half-way decent. Not like it was cobbled together by some spaced-out whack-job like those from other makers trying to look 'space-age' and over-the-top futeristic. Good job KIA. I have researched and understand your technology is also advanced over other brands. Keep it up.
LOVED this video! I've had my current Honda SUV for 17 years and wanting to trade for my first electric car. The biggest thing for me is the cost. It's been a while, but car prices are beyond high. Looking at the Kia EV6 and right on the edge of taking the leap.
Speed is of no importance to me, since I want to keep my driving privileges anyway. All I want to get in an EV is economy, comfort, and range. Until someone comes up with price of under 50k and range of 300+ with re-charging in under 10 minutes, I will keep my old Lexus ICE car, that has all that, with extra comfort to boot.
Bought my First Edition on June 27th. Absolutely love it! Each day I drive it, I continue to smile. I have bumped heated seat/wheel controls a few times when using touchscreen. Also, the piano black trim is pretty, but very prone to fingerprints. I’m just taking a trip to the Wisconsin Dells from Kalamazoo & the charging is very easy. Only needed 2 full charges at about 1 hour, allowed me to arrive in the Dells with approximately 190 miles left. Gets plenty of looks, especially since it’s Urban Yellow. Great review, & looking forward to many years of happy motoring.
Now Kia just needs to up their dealer experience. The couple I have visited in the PNW region are still stuck in the bad old days of slimy dealer experiences.
l am also in the PNW and had a similar experience, went a bit further afield in my search all by email or text and found a good dealer in Gresham , OR. Westion Kia, the salesman I worked with was Steve Olsen. Good experience overall and I'd recommend them. MSRP and a fair trade-in that was equal to the Carvana offer. Avoid all the Puget Sound dealers if you want a fair purchase.
I've seen this complaint before, the dual purpose screen for the climate control/radio controls. My question is, are people really using the climate control that often? For me it is always set it and forget it. I mean literally I set the auto climate once in summer, and again in winter and forget it for most of the rest of the season. I would need the radio controls far more often. The exception being in mid winter when you need to change where the air blows til your windows are clear, then back to normal. I just don't understand why people are playing with the climate controls so much....
Thanks Tom. So, how fast do ppl really need to get to 60mph? 5-7 seconds is plenty fast and used to super/sports car territory. Personally, there's no need for sub-5 zero-60 unless you want bragging rights at cars&☕. What is the average speed zero to 60 in today's (regular) car market?
Same issues as all of them. Still to expensive and doesn't have enough distance and then there's always that awesome recharge time. Just not efficient enough.
I thought I would like the Hyundai variant more but this is starting to catch my eye more. Thanks again to those who helped make this video as good as it is. Also, thanks for the fun facts.
Heated wheel business is pretty silly and designing in that huge blind spot....wow. I think it's a bit expensive but if I was buying now, I'm not really sure I would still get the Tesla 3 Dual Motor. I've had my Tesla for 14 months and I'm so spoiled by the Supercharger Network. Just perfect! I just wouldn't want to depend on EA for charging as I'm an apartment dweller so I made the right choice but I do like the bigger car with more comfort details and the HUD. Yeah, I got a little envy!
Great review and stunning video! I recently did a test drive in an EV6. The narrow windows and huge rear pillars make the cabin feel very claustrophobic. The exterior looks great, but I agree about the interior materials being hit or miss. The car rode very smoothly and was super quiet. The dealer $5k markup (including $3k for paint protection) was a big turnoff. I think this, and the Hyundai Ioniq 5, are going to be big sellers in the EV space.
The dealer markups are atrocious. First dealer I went to wanted $12K over and didn't seem to be interested in selling the car. A bit of patience and I found a dealer a bit further away that sold the car for MSRP with a trade-in for my existing car that matched the best Carvana offer I got.
All new cars are heavy not just EVs. The new Mustang Shelby GT500 is 4100 lbs and that is supposed to be a sports car. That's very heavy for a sports car.
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Tom, thanks for another great review. Have been looking forward to this one, as usual , you are 100 percent correct, this will be the one to bring the fringe in to EV. I can live without the 0-60 at 2 seconds….Give me a car that gets 300 miles, and a 0-60 at 6-7 seconds, I’m good. I’m hopeful in two years, it’ll be all about charging times and mileage. Not the parlor trick of break neck speed. Thank you for mature reviews.
Thank you for the review. Too bad you can't find them in Las Vegas. I decided I already own my last gas vehicle and looking hard for a non Tesla EV. Kia is looking pretty good to me.
The car is outstanding, Kia did incredibly well and this genuinely moves EV's forward. That said, these have been available for a few months in UK now (already doing a small update apparently) but the waiting list is 1 year which makes it a car that isn't really available in my mind. EV's are now the only vehicles anybody is really interested in here, when a car maker brings something out that is popular the demand seems crazy. Maybe you guys will have better luck with supply, especially since you drive on the wrong side of road which will make the pool of potential cars ready larger
yes, people that don't like it I think are mainly 1 day reviewers that haven't got used to it yet. It's a perfect balance of physical buttons and screens in the EV6 for me (particularly since most people will use the steering wheel for a lot of functions). Who lets the passenger control the volume anyway?!
Can't get these or any thing else that is sligthy interesting. All the new youtube vehicle hype and all the dealership letdowns or 7-15K markup. Watching youtube vehicle channels is really just for entertainment value while we go back to working from home because most can't afford to pay $5 gas and go buy a new 60K EV or 45-50K hybrid. Just wait until the power is turned off and ride your bike.
Nice review again Tom. I've been watching your videos for many years and really enjoy your professional looking shot videos, personal opinions on the real world usage of functions and little fun tidbits you throw in from time to time. Hope you will continue to grace RUclips with your channel for years to come!
Great video and production as always we need to send your evil twin to charm school for a week , All The Best to you and your wife as always EvanLKatz.
As always, great review! Great car. On my list for next year. Hopefully, the car production issues will be lessened by then. As for the gripes, e.g., no wireless CarPlay, in every car where I’ve had wireless CarPlay, two issues: 1. Drains your battery FAST, so the wireless Qi charger had better be strong, and 2. The tech isn’t quite there yet, lots of drops, no connection issues, etc…I’d prefer to just plug it in and cure two problems with one plug (charge faster and connection security). As for door handles, from watching many reviews by actual car designers from the industry, car door handles are a huge source of noise (along with side view mirrors and tires). So, making them flat to the side takes away that noise. Until the US changes the laws, we’re stuck with the large side view mirrors (unlike Europe where they can use the camera cameras), and tires…until that tech changes, they will always be noisy…Lastly, agree with you on a heated steering wheel. Should be standard. And, YES, you’d think KIA learned from Honda’s no volume knob debacle! PUT IN A DEDICATED KNOB!!!
232 mile range for $52,000 in 2022 is pitiful. Why have EV ranges been flatlining for the last several years? "10 seconds to plug-in" has to be the stupidest review comment I'll hear all year. Also, the last 20% of charging is what takes a long time and full charging is critical to prolonging battery life and realizing full range. If you charge to 80% and recharge at 10%, the range is no more than 150 miles. 150 mile range for $52K?
Hi Tom, first of all thanks for your great review. I’m allmost an “expert” 😉 regarding watching EV6 reviews. I ordered the GT-line AWD and I’m waiting and waiting for it to be delivered. I noticed something very weird regarding the frunk of the RWD you reviewed. Normally (allways) RWD versions of the EV6 have a much larger frunk. I suspect KIA has build in the wrong (small) frunk in your test car. That could explain the space you noticed below the frunk. Cheers!
The biggest reason the US will be slow is lack or availability. It's almost April. I ordered an ID4 LAST April. Everything from covid, lack of chips (even though they have chips for the gas models), the boat sank, the war in Ukraine. Have we left any out? How about the sun is in their eyes and the wind is going the wrong way. I aorderd a CyborTruck to see if space boy could do better. NADDA! BTW good video. Too bad I can't get one.
Kia does the same heated steering wheel thing with the Stinger. It's only available on AWD models. That was not important enough to keep me from buying my GT2 in RWD. :)
I just wish the KIA dealers weren't marking them up so much. I am finding $10-$15k markups and when i google it i see $12-25k markups are common on the EV6 in the US. While i like its looks, its not a car worth $70-80K.
😱🤣 “Sportage” as in pronounced the French way? Haven’t heard that over here in Europe but yes, VERY classy Canada! We shall take a leaf out of that book over here. Loved the review, still undecided if I should order an ioniq 5, or this or not at all - the wind-noise at 100mph is rather unrefined. And as I aim to drive 600+ mls every weekend, that wind noise is an important factor.
Frankly, I don't see the real (!!!) added value if a car speeds up from 0 to 60 miles an hour in less than 4 or "only" in 6 or 8 or even 13 seconds. Who cares ? That's really a non argument. Normal road aren't race tracks, there's absolutely no need to be in such a hurry. It's also a non argument, because you'll often have slower vehicles in front of you anyway. Range in "not normal" conditions matters, especially if you plan to make a long trip, and with not yet well distributed recharching facilities. Price too matters. Visibility, room for luggage and passengers, that kind of things really matter. But that obsession with how fast cars reach 60 miles an hour.... pffffff
Lots of hype ... NO product available. Dealers want some money just to "pre-order" with no guarantee (or idea for that matter) of a delivery date. Pass on this quasi-scam.
Nice job as usual Tom. Since you've driven both, I'm curious to your thoughts on the ride compared to the Mach-E? We love our Mach-E (ER RWD), but definitely notice the infamous "bouncy" ride once in a while. It's not a problem so far, but we haven't taken any long trips in it yet. This EV6 is the first car to come along where I've thought "maybe I got the wrong EV"...
The Kia does have a more settled ride on undulating pavement and there are the differences in design inside and out. The wrong EV? Don't beat yourself up. Mach-E is a great car with many fine attributes. As more EVs come out and tech advances, there's going to be a lot of FOMO. Love the one you're with.
What a lot of people don't understand is that if you push and hold the arrow up for 4 seconds it will give you a choice of which one you want to default to. So when you push the change button (arrow or fan) it will go to that and then return by itself after a few seconds to the one that you programmed default to. Makes it much more manageable. I've never seen any reviewer mention that.
Hope you are ready to mortgage your home, you'll need it to purchase one of these. I work for a local KIA Dealership and we have only sold 3, due to the price. My advice, go Hybrid, battery/fuel. Electric is for local driving only!
Getting closer but the batteries need to be better and have longer ranges and allow for large vehicles for towing and deliveries. Also not sure charging stations are the way to go need to have the ability to have an exchange program when you are traveling so you do not need to wait for charging.
@@DrivenCarReviews We still do have the issue that using electricity for all our energy is putting all are power in one basket. Also, the current electric grid is still using fossil fuels. I do really think we need to get the tech world working on more efficient cleaner energy that works not so sure that is solar and wind since they take so much to make and the land they use.
I'm totally down for EV, but their price per range isn't quite there yet for it to be worth it for me if I was buying right now, even with tax credit. Doesn't help that I live in a cold climate with long winters and want AWD. I'll see where it's at in 2-3 years when I'll be in the market for a new car.
Now if you could just get Kia to make more than a few thousand...Kia and Hyundai are nothing more than compliance EV manufacturers. They only make as many EVs as necessary to appease the states that they need to, no more. I'll never own one of their cars because I am not willing to pay a $5k upcharge or spend months to hunt down one of the few thousand they could be bothered to make between gas guzzling Palisades
Another great video, Tom. As heartened as I am that someone other than Tesla is finally making EVs people want to drive, I'm DISheartened to read how the local dealers are all gouging the price $10K+ on these and the Ioniq 5s. Real bummer.
Seems like $10k is the default KIA/Hyundai markup. So, as the buyer, stay in control. Let's the sales/finance guy/gal know you'll pay MSRP (or whatever your price is); leave your contact info and when they are ready to be reasonably, to contact you. Then get up, walk out and possibly go look at other offerings. No reason to be a victim of price gouging.
@@K03sport You're not wrong. I have a feeling, with gas prices so high right now, that these will be flying off dealer lots... rewarding this ridiculousness. Luckily, my 06 Altima is still hanging in there, so I can hopefully wait it out (famous last words).
An Electric vehicle will be in Demand if the Network is available so this can't be should in Cold States! When CCS Electric car can drive across route 80 or 90 across America and Canadian Highway! CCS seem to hate rural areas also in Cold States!
As an ICE Motörhead I will say it is impressive…great review..Does your dad live in Minnesota..of,course you know where I am going with that question..guessing not🤔
@@DrivenCarReviews Probably would,not have purchased,an EV if they were still in the frozen tundra. To paraphrase a famous person…Minnesotans make informed decisions…😎
Looks nice but not as good as the Ioniq 5 design imho. As an ex Stratos owner, I don’t see the Stratos influence? I’d more likely say that the Ioniq 5 has an Integrale influence.
Another superb review, Tom. I'm torn between the EV6 and the GV60 and will need to make a decision when the supply chain and chip shortages end (in 2023?). I suspect there are others who are also torn. Would you consider a comparison video, preferably focusing on the relative values for money?
I don't have the resources to do comparisons the right way. My suggestion would be to watch each of my videos to get an idea of what the cars are like. I'll touch on the differences between the EV6 and Ioniq5 when the Hyundai video drops in a couple weeks, and I'll like mention those two when I do the GV60. But I like to treat them like separate vehicles (because they feel very different from each other).
@@DrivenCarReviews Thanks Tom. I'll keep monitoring your channel for these new videos and, as you suggest, do a side-by-side comparison. And go easy on the Evil Twin - after all, he doesn't get out (of the back seat) much. :-)
Great they go 0 to 60 in 3 or 4 seconds but around town it’s ok but take it on a 500 mile or 700 mile trip and use a fast charger if available you pay a lot to use and if it’s broken or being used your road trip will take you about 2 to 3 hours longer then a gas vehicle and the cost for a small suv type your cost will be over $50,000.out the door and if you want to connect a fast charger in your garage add $2500 to $3500 maybe some day it will be worth it but not now
I don't want an EV, pulls too much electricity from the grid, the manufacturing is not green, nor is their recyclability, its one huge scam, very expensive too, shove them where the sun don't shine
I agree, EV6 RWD in other markets has a bigger frunk / froot compared to AWD models which is the same as what Tom's review is showing. Strange why US models has the small one for RWD models?
They're great neighbors. And I compensate. Installing Level 2 is a summer project for me that involves 40 feet of trenching and drilling through concrete.
Great video Tom, and I'm very glad that you tell it as it is when it comes to EV adoption in all your EV videos. I truly want to own an EV one day, but I'm in the prairies of Canada and the charging network is nearly non existent. At the rate we're going, it's going to take decades. So, I don't feel so guilty driving my AMG and C8 around. But I think I might one day ...
I have seen one of these and it's not a Tesla. I main reason why I purchase a Tesla because of the super chargers. Which the other ev makers do not have.
for me i find it annoying that my passenger can dial my audio. if they want me to turn it down or anything just ask or say so. i dont like people fiddeling with things in my car they might hit or do something they dont know what is so on :P
@@tav0303 If I didn't have a Tesla and I was in the market for an EV I'd buy an EV6 no question about it...or an Ionic 5...whichever I could find first, in the spec I wanted, that was being sold at MSRP.
Hi Tom thanks for the great review, would love to get your opinion of the Hyundai Ioniq5 vs the EV6. Styling is subjective and I prefer the exterior of the Ioniq5... however Kia seems to have been thoughtful in its execution for the interior, actual buttons(although haptic) for seat heat/cooling, and I like the easy fold rear seats from the boot, the negative... all the gloss black plastic 👎
I've had my Ioniq 5 Limited AWD for about a month now. Great car! I was thinking about the EV6, but my ageing bod said that the I5 would be more practical. On the impractical side, the I5 AWD acceleration is scary.
Great review! We took delivery of our EV6 instead of the MachE mostly because of availability (still no build date). We don’t feel like we compromised at all.
"The chassis structure is as rigid as an Elon fanboy"
That clever turn of phrase made my day.
It's quite strange when you see the rolling footage, it looks like a small hatchback. Then when you see Tom sitting in it, it's actually a pretty big vehicle.
My brain couldn't make sense of Tom sitting in the open door. It was like the visual tricks used in Lord of the Rings to make Gandalf look so much bigger than the hobbits.
It's not a small vehicle. Wheelbase is the same as Telluride.
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I have an Ioniq 5, looks the size of an A3 in photos, but its gigantic
I own a 2024 EV6 GT Line extended range RWD and its a awesome vehicle would recommend for anyone 😏👍
Yet another well done review. Hyundai-Kia continues to impress. This is the best looking ev I’ve seen yet at any price. Ironman face.
EV6 is so sharp looking! Bummer it doesn't have a full glass roof because it's super dark in the cabin with those small windows. 4.5 seconds to 60mph in the AWD is crazy quick and will even beat a Tesla Model Y off the line.
Another delightful review, really love the EV6. Seems like a no compromise EV. And Seattle is beautiful as always!
Not in Seattle but it’s suburbs, mostly the Eastside. Bellevue, Redmond, Sammamish and Kirkland. Most people don’t want to go into the downtown anymore
I had a Bolt EUV and that was stated at 0-60 in 7 seconds and it felt quicker than any car I'd ever driven. EVs just feel fast. They're fantastic.
Right, regular folk don't need anything quicker.
7 seconds IS fairly quick for the average car. Though I think EVs have another advantage in that you get power right off the line, so it's gonna feel quicker than a gas car with the same 0-60.
That is very true. I own a Tesla Model S but rented a Toyota Prius Prime recently on a trip. The Prius in EV mode feels plenty fast and even squealed the tires. It got me thinking that 0-60 is really not useful for around town driving. I would like to see more 0-30 comparisons with ICE vehicles of the same class.
This is because most reasonable people need to accelerate fast up to low speeds whole in traffic and not all the way to 60. Maximum torque at zero speed is what most EVs can give.
Just picked up a matte grey EV6 GT-Line AWD First Edition. How nice is it? I traded my Mercedes AMG in and I feel like I upgraded. It's an amazing car and quick. Instant torque will make you smile. Done paying crazy gas prices and will soon trade my nice Mazda CX9 in for a 2nd EV as well!
Congrats on your purchase
I'm afraid that Kia dealers will ruin the buying experience with additional dealer markup and other mandatory add-ons.
Was looking at a Ioniq 5 Limited ..One dealer had it at 65K..Although most had them around 55K
Yup. Went to test drive an EV6 with a friend. They had a few in stock, and each one had $5k worth of dealer add-ons, pushing most models well over $60k.
That’s most dealers from any brand at this point but the good thing is, you as a consumer do have choice not to buy from them and there are dealers who don’t markup and will ship the car to you or you could pick it up yourself.
The only brand not doing this is Tesla but even then I don’t think the general public who applaud them for it realize that they’ve raised prices a few times (more than model year changes) since the chip shortage started so it’s a choose your battle situation in this market.
My dad bought his at retail FYI. And someone in our neighborhood talked the dealer down off the $3K markup on a car she just bought. So there's that.
@@DrivenCarReviews Yes, patience and some text/email leg work is needed to get one of these at MSRP. First car I've ever purchased at MSRP a sign of the times I'm afraid.
Yea, rather have the Ariya, front wheel drive…rear wheel drive no good in rain, snow, ice…dual wheel to much $, less range, less efficient
Nice review. It doesn't weight 5300 lbs though. That is the GVWR (gross vehicle weight rating). Actual weight is closer to 4400 lbs depending on trims.
Kia did an awesome job with that car.
I just got a WInd RWD, and it is sublime. I get giddy every time I walk up to it. The interior (in my opinion ofc) is nicer than many more expensive cars that feel a bit gaudy or outdated.
GT-Line GT are sold out in CA and literally disappear within hours of inventory allotment so I had to "make do" with the Wind AWD but it's still a wonderful car lacking only a sunroof and 20" wheels. Perfect daily driver with 274 mile range for suburban commute but its 4.5 0-60 does not feel as fast as my C40 (also rate at 4.5) and feels closer to 5 - still very good. I am getting getting real world ranges consistent with the 274 EPA range but keeping it charged between 15% and 85% means real world 200 miles of usable range but I always drive in "sport mode" so I'm getting closer to 180 miles. What it beats Tesla and Porsche, with a real "fast charger" I've personally seen it give me over 100 miles of range (from 20%) in under 10 minutes - this is a game changer. And getting ventilated seats for under $55K is pretty great. The Meridian audio system is AMAZING and impressive, well balanced, and obviously needs a real subwoofer. One pedal driving is more aggressive (what I prefer) in "Sport Mode" and is most similar to the C40 which I believe is class leading.
You bought a great car. I live in California also and your correct. It's tough finding a gt model especially at list price.
Are you talking Volvo C40 Recharge? I just drove it and yes, it feels faster, but mostly when passing at highway speeds.
@@markmcintosh7095 I was at a Kia dealer in the bay area. The salesperson wouldn't start the car; only allowed to sit in it. Also wouldn't provide a price unless I was willing to sitdown with the sale manager. Love the car but its probably a few years off before you can get one.
@@dchow007 Bay Area here too. A buddy told me a dealer wants $5K ADM. He doesn’t need a car that badly so he walked, will keep his ICE car for another couples of years.
@@jml9550 $5K buys a lot of gas. My 1999 Sienna still runs well. Gas guzzler and definitely showing wear and tear. I will be waiting too and keeping an eye for other EVs coming out.
This is an awesome car. I had a chance to check out the EV6 when I brought my Soul in for routine maintenance. The biggest problem I have with the EV6 is the price. At $56k, the EV6 is $20k more than my 2021 Soul EX. Just came back from a trip up north in Wisconsin and averaged 35 mpg. Living in an apartment and having to park on the street also poses a problem with having an electric vehicle. A hybrid would be more practical. Other than that, KIA did a wonderful job on the EV6.
Switching between AC and Audio controls without all the clutter... and keeping the knob control for both... I love this idea. I'm sad most of the journalists (not all) are crapping on it.
It's the older Journalists that's complaining. Younger ones gets it.
Fr, I love that idea. It frees up the clutter. My car has dual zone auto climate control and I love it because I don’t have to think about it. I just get in it and go unless there was a drastic change in temperature, then I’ll change it, but that’s only 10 seconds of my time in the car doing that. If you know how to use it, then the radio controls are what it’ll be set on most of the time and even then most of the stuff is done on the steering wheel.
@@jraheemjefcoat429 Not an ageism issue. It's basic ergonomics. Never make something a two-step operation when it can be one step, especially controls that are used often. Talk to an engineer and they'll tell you that the volume knob is one of the top used controls, right after the transmission selector, HVAC controls and turn signals (for some drivers anyways).
You can set either of the menus as default and then it toggles back after a few seconds if you change to the other screen. I prefer the infotainment (volume) setting as standard. Then volume control is always there and it is just one tap to change climate settings. Just tap and hold for 3 sec to set default screen
@@DrivenCarReviews We can agree to disagree..I observe opinions from younger Journalists and mature ones..The Younger ones dig this technology...I think it's innovative and makes the infotainment flush and minimalistic than having all of those buttons. Welcome to 2022...The future is here!
Unless EVs come with a free house, I don't see a lot of renters getting them anytime soon.
LMAO, I like that one.
My goodness. An EV that looks half-way decent. Not like it was cobbled together by some spaced-out whack-job like those from other makers trying to look 'space-age' and over-the-top futeristic.
Good job KIA. I have researched and understand your technology is also advanced over other brands. Keep it up.
I'd hate to be buying a new ICE car at this moment, I think resale value on them will take a steep dive in the next couple years.
LOVED this video! I've had my current Honda SUV for 17 years and wanting to trade for my first electric car. The biggest thing for me is the cost. It's been a while, but car prices are beyond high. Looking at the Kia EV6 and right on the edge of taking the leap.
Speed is of no importance to me, since I want to keep my driving privileges anyway. All I want to get in an EV is economy, comfort, and range. Until someone comes up with price of under 50k and range of 300+ with re-charging in under 10 minutes, I will keep my old Lexus ICE car, that has all that, with extra comfort to boot.
Bought my First Edition on June 27th. Absolutely love it! Each day I drive it, I continue to smile.
I have bumped heated seat/wheel controls a few times when using touchscreen. Also, the piano black trim is pretty, but very prone to fingerprints.
I’m just taking a trip to the Wisconsin Dells from Kalamazoo & the charging is very easy. Only needed 2 full charges at about 1 hour, allowed me to arrive in the Dells with approximately 190 miles left. Gets plenty of looks, especially since it’s Urban Yellow.
Great review, & looking forward to many years of happy motoring.
So this car weights 5300lbs with no passengers. Add four 150lb adults plus some gear you can easily hit 6000lbs. Brah, that's one heavy ass boy.
The car itself weighs about 4400lbs give or take. 5300 is the GWR.
Now Kia just needs to up their dealer experience. The couple I have visited in the PNW region are still stuck in the bad old days of slimy dealer experiences.
l am also in the PNW and had a similar experience, went a bit further afield in my search all by email or text and found a good dealer in Gresham , OR. Westion Kia, the salesman I worked with was Steve Olsen. Good experience overall and I'd recommend them. MSRP and a fair trade-in that was equal to the Carvana offer. Avoid all the Puget Sound dealers if you want a fair purchase.
I've seen this complaint before, the dual purpose screen for the climate control/radio controls. My question is, are people really using the climate control that often? For me it is always set it and forget it. I mean literally I set the auto climate once in summer, and again in winter and forget it for most of the rest of the season. I would need the radio controls far more often. The exception being in mid winter when you need to change where the air blows til your windows are clear, then back to normal. I just don't understand why people are playing with the climate controls so much....
Uncanny how close this resembles a Jaguar I-Pace. I don’t think anyone can claim this is an original design. It’s an original copy!
Thanks Tom. So, how fast do ppl really need to get to 60mph? 5-7 seconds is plenty fast and used to super/sports car territory. Personally, there's no need for sub-5 zero-60 unless you want bragging rights at cars&☕. What is the average speed zero to 60 in today's (regular) car market?
Tom, your narration and wit is half the pleasure of the reviews! Keep up the good stuff!
Another great video and a intriguing EV option. Go Kia!
The average person cannot afford this. It’s a Kia so I can’t see myself spending BMW price for this.
Potential buyers! If U like Apple Car Play and make lots of short trips, wait until they offer it wireless
Same issues as all of them. Still to expensive and doesn't have enough distance and then there's always that awesome recharge time. Just not efficient enough.
As always, a great review. I like this car. If I consider a new car this will be on the shortlist.
It might be reasonable price in US, however the prices are out of rich for rest of the world at least 98% of peaple. Shame
So many issues with EV's/ Cold. etc etc ..... No thanks
I thought I would like the Hyundai variant more but this is starting to catch my eye more. Thanks again to those who helped make this video as good as it is. Also, thanks for the fun facts.
Kia ev 6 ⚡️good.
Well done with Dad! Mine’s 79 and has been driving an i3 for over a year. EV’s are perfect at EVery age😜
Heated wheel business is pretty silly and designing in that huge blind spot....wow.
I think it's a bit expensive but if I was buying now, I'm not really sure I would still get the Tesla 3 Dual Motor.
I've had my Tesla for 14 months and I'm so spoiled by the Supercharger Network. Just perfect! I just wouldn't want to depend on EA for charging as I'm an apartment dweller so I made the right choice but I do like the bigger car with more comfort details and the HUD. Yeah, I got a little envy!
Great review and stunning video! I recently did a test drive in an EV6. The narrow windows and huge rear pillars make the cabin feel very claustrophobic. The exterior looks great, but I agree about the interior materials being hit or miss. The car rode very smoothly and was super quiet. The dealer $5k markup (including $3k for paint protection) was a big turnoff. I think this, and the Hyundai Ioniq 5, are going to be big sellers in the EV space.
LOL. $3k for "paint protection" what was the other $2k for?
The dealer markups are atrocious. First dealer I went to wanted $12K over and didn't seem to be interested in selling the car. A bit of patience and I found a dealer a bit further away that sold the car for MSRP with a trade-in for my existing car that matched the best Carvana offer I got.
@@LuvADuc it was a long list. I remember seeing $500 for floor mats. I forgot the rest. All meaningless stuff.
I've been watching your content ever since you started posting your review videos on itunes. Hope all is well, and keep at it!
5300 lbs ?
My dad had a 73 Chrysler Imperial and it only weighed 5000 lbs.
All new cars are heavy not just EVs. The new Mustang Shelby GT500 is 4100 lbs and that is supposed to be a sports car. That's very heavy for a sports car.
You get my "PRAISE" for the best reviews out of 50-75 I've watched. No overhype, straight information and data, and admirable opinions. The sound, the feelings you experienced were far more useful than everyone elses! Congratulations on a SUPERLATIVE JOB of Review details!
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Tom, thanks for another great review. Have been looking forward to this one, as usual , you are 100 percent correct, this will be the one to bring the fringe in to EV. I can live without the 0-60 at 2 seconds….Give me a car that gets 300 miles, and a 0-60 at 6-7 seconds, I’m good. I’m hopeful in two years, it’ll be all about charging times and mileage. Not the parlor trick of break neck speed. Thank you for mature reviews.
Don't get me wrong, the faster AWD set up is preferable to me. But the average Joe and Jane should be okay with the RWD speed.
Thank you for the review. Too bad you can't find them in Las Vegas. I decided I already own my last gas vehicle and looking hard for a non Tesla EV. Kia is looking pretty good to me.
The car is outstanding, Kia did incredibly well and this genuinely moves EV's forward. That said, these have been available for a few months in UK now (already doing a small update apparently) but the waiting list is 1 year which makes it a car that isn't really available in my mind. EV's are now the only vehicles anybody is really interested in here, when a car maker brings something out that is popular the demand seems crazy. Maybe you guys will have better luck with supply, especially since you drive on the wrong side of road which will make the pool of potential cars ready larger
I like the dual radio/hvac idea. I think its quite smart. Beat doing everything from a big tablet
yes, people that don't like it I think are mainly 1 day reviewers that haven't got used to it yet. It's a perfect balance of physical buttons and screens in the EV6 for me (particularly since most people will use the steering wheel for a lot of functions). Who lets the passenger control the volume anyway?!
Can't get these or any thing else that is sligthy interesting. All the new youtube vehicle hype and all the dealership letdowns or 7-15K markup. Watching youtube vehicle channels is really just for entertainment value while we go back to working from home because most can't afford to pay $5 gas and go buy a new 60K EV or 45-50K hybrid. Just wait until the power is turned off and ride your bike.
Nice review again Tom. I've been watching your videos for many years and really enjoy your professional looking shot videos, personal opinions on the real world usage of functions and little fun tidbits you throw in from time to time. Hope you will continue to grace RUclips with your channel for years to come!
Great video and production as always we need to send your evil twin to charm school for a week , All The Best to you and your wife as always EvanLKatz.
2022 Kia EV6/MSRP From $40,900.... go buy a CyberTruck with that money next year.... KIA is joking
Rolling blackouts here during cold snap (during summer too) and inadequate charging infrastructure...but EVs have been mandated???
As always, great review! Great car. On my list for next year. Hopefully, the car production issues will be lessened by then. As for the gripes, e.g., no wireless CarPlay, in every car where I’ve had wireless CarPlay, two issues: 1. Drains your battery FAST, so the wireless Qi charger had better be strong, and 2. The tech isn’t quite there yet, lots of drops, no connection issues, etc…I’d prefer to just plug it in and cure two problems with one plug (charge faster and connection security). As for door handles, from watching many reviews by actual car designers from the industry, car door handles are a huge source of noise (along with side view mirrors and tires). So, making them flat to the side takes away that noise. Until the US changes the laws, we’re stuck with the large side view mirrors (unlike Europe where they can use the camera cameras), and tires…until that tech changes, they will always be noisy…Lastly, agree with you on a heated steering wheel. Should be standard. And, YES, you’d think KIA learned from Honda’s no volume knob debacle! PUT IN A DEDICATED KNOB!!!
232 mile range for $52,000 in 2022 is pitiful. Why have EV ranges been flatlining for the last several years? "10 seconds to plug-in" has to be the stupidest review comment I'll hear all year. Also, the last 20% of charging is what takes a long time and full charging is critical to prolonging battery life and realizing full range. If you charge to 80% and recharge at 10%, the range is no more than 150 miles. 150 mile range for $52K?
Good review, I like your style, similar to Motor Trend. Subscribed.
Hi Tom, first of all thanks for your great review. I’m allmost an “expert” 😉 regarding watching EV6 reviews. I ordered the GT-line AWD and I’m waiting and waiting for it to be delivered. I noticed something very weird regarding the frunk of the RWD you reviewed. Normally (allways) RWD versions of the EV6 have a much larger frunk. I suspect KIA has build in the wrong (small) frunk in your test car. That could explain the space you noticed below the frunk. Cheers!
The biggest reason the US will be slow is lack or availability. It's almost April. I ordered an ID4 LAST April. Everything from covid, lack of chips (even though they have chips for the gas models), the boat sank, the war in Ukraine. Have we left any out? How about the sun is in their eyes and the wind is going the wrong way. I aorderd a CyborTruck to see if space boy could do better. NADDA! BTW good video. Too bad I can't get one.
Kia does the same heated steering wheel thing with the Stinger. It's only available on AWD models. That was not important enough to keep me from buying my GT2 in RWD. :)
I just wish the KIA dealers weren't marking them up so much. I am finding $10-$15k markups and when i google it i see $12-25k markups are common on the EV6 in the US. While i like its looks, its not a car worth $70-80K.
😱🤣 “Sportage” as in pronounced the French way? Haven’t heard that over here in Europe but yes, VERY classy Canada! We shall take a leaf out of that book over here.
Loved the review, still undecided if I should order an ioniq 5, or this or not at all - the wind-noise at 100mph is rather unrefined. And as I aim to drive 600+ mls every weekend, that wind noise is an important factor.
“Voilá” - say it with me my American friends, “voilá” - not “Walla”! Which is neither a word in English nor French.
Otherwise, great video!
Frankly, I don't see the real (!!!) added value if a car speeds up from 0 to 60 miles an hour in less than 4 or "only" in 6 or 8 or even 13 seconds. Who cares ? That's really a non argument. Normal road aren't race tracks, there's absolutely no need to be in such a hurry. It's also a non argument, because you'll often have slower vehicles in front of you anyway. Range in "not normal" conditions matters, especially if you plan to make a long trip, and with not yet well distributed recharching facilities. Price too matters. Visibility, room for luggage and passengers, that kind of things really matter. But that obsession with how fast cars reach 60 miles an hour.... pffffff
Lots of hype ... NO product available. Dealers want some money just to "pre-order" with no guarantee (or idea for that matter) of a delivery date. Pass on this quasi-scam.
Nice job as usual Tom. Since you've driven both, I'm curious to your thoughts on the ride compared to the Mach-E? We love our Mach-E (ER RWD), but definitely notice the infamous "bouncy" ride once in a while. It's not a problem so far, but we haven't taken any long trips in it yet. This EV6 is the first car to come along where I've thought "maybe I got the wrong EV"...
The Kia does have a more settled ride on undulating pavement and there are the differences in design inside and out. The wrong EV? Don't beat yourself up. Mach-E is a great car with many fine attributes. As more EVs come out and tech advances, there's going to be a lot of FOMO. Love the one you're with.
I kinda like the dual function knobs. At least it has a volume and tune knob. I just wish the button to change the function of the panel was larger.
What a lot of people don't understand is that if you push and hold the arrow up for 4 seconds it will give you a choice of which one you want to default to. So when you push the change button (arrow or fan) it will go to that and then return by itself after a few seconds to the one that you programmed default to. Makes it much more manageable. I've never seen any reviewer mention that.
Hope you are ready to mortgage your home, you'll need it to purchase one of these. I work for a local KIA Dealership and we have only sold 3, due to the price. My advice, go Hybrid, battery/fuel. Electric is for local driving only!
Getting closer but the batteries need to be better and have longer ranges and allow for large vehicles for towing and deliveries. Also not sure charging stations are the way to go need to have the ability to have an exchange program when you are traveling so you do not need to wait for charging.
You forgot to mention that you think it should fly too Mike.
@@DrivenCarReviews We still do have the issue that using electricity for all our energy is putting all are power in one basket. Also, the current electric grid is still using fossil fuels. I do really think we need to get the tech world working on more efficient cleaner energy that works not so sure that is solar and wind since they take so much to make and the land they use.
I'm totally down for EV, but their price per range isn't quite there yet for it to be worth it for me if I was buying right now, even with tax credit. Doesn't help that I live in a cold climate with long winters and want AWD. I'll see where it's at in 2-3 years when I'll be in the market for a new car.
Now if you could just get Kia to make more than a few thousand...Kia and Hyundai are nothing more than compliance EV manufacturers. They only make as many EVs as necessary to appease the states that they need to, no more. I'll never own one of their cars because I am not willing to pay a $5k upcharge or spend months to hunt down one of the few thousand they could be bothered to make between gas guzzling Palisades
Another great video, Tom. As heartened as I am that someone other than Tesla is finally making EVs people want to drive, I'm DISheartened to read how the local dealers are all gouging the price $10K+ on these and the Ioniq 5s. Real bummer.
Seems like $10k is the default KIA/Hyundai markup. So, as the buyer, stay in control. Let's the sales/finance guy/gal know you'll pay MSRP (or whatever your price is); leave your contact info and when they are ready to be reasonably, to contact you. Then get up, walk out and possibly go look at other offerings. No reason to be a victim of price gouging.
@@K03sport You're not wrong. I have a feeling, with gas prices so high right now, that these will be flying off dealer lots... rewarding this ridiculousness. Luckily, my 06 Altima is still hanging in there, so I can hopefully wait it out (famous last words).
An Electric vehicle will be in Demand if the Network is available so this can't be should in Cold States! When CCS Electric car can drive across route 80 or 90 across America and Canadian Highway! CCS seem to hate rural areas also in Cold States!
As an ICE Motörhead I will say it is impressive…great review..Does your dad live in Minnesota..of,course you know where I am going with that question..guessing not🤔
Nope, they retired in the south.
@@DrivenCarReviews Probably would,not have purchased,an EV if they were still in the frozen tundra. To paraphrase a famous person…Minnesotans make informed decisions…😎
Looks nice but not as good as the Ioniq 5 design imho.
As an ex Stratos owner, I don’t see the Stratos influence?
I’d more likely say that the Ioniq 5 has an Integrale influence.
There is no better option than using your neighbor's EVSE to charge your car. 😃
Another superb review, Tom.
I'm torn between the EV6 and the GV60 and will need to make a decision when the supply chain and chip shortages end (in 2023?). I suspect there are others who are also torn.
Would you consider a comparison video, preferably focusing on the relative values for money?
I don't have the resources to do comparisons the right way. My suggestion would be to watch each of my videos to get an idea of what the cars are like. I'll touch on the differences between the EV6 and Ioniq5 when the Hyundai video drops in a couple weeks, and I'll like mention those two when I do the GV60. But I like to treat them like separate vehicles (because they feel very different from each other).
@@DrivenCarReviews Thanks Tom. I'll keep monitoring your channel for these new videos and, as you suggest, do a side-by-side comparison.
And go easy on the Evil Twin - after all, he doesn't get out (of the back seat) much. :-)
Great they go 0 to 60 in 3 or 4 seconds but around town it’s ok but take it on a 500 mile or 700 mile trip and use a fast charger if available you pay a lot to use and if it’s broken or being used your road trip will take you about 2 to 3 hours longer then a gas vehicle and the cost for a small suv type your cost will be over $50,000.out the door and if you want to connect a fast charger in your garage add $2500 to $3500 maybe some day it will be worth it but not now
I don't want an EV, pulls too much electricity from the grid, the manufacturing is not green, nor is their recyclability, its one huge scam, very expensive too, shove them where the sun don't shine
Gr8 vid Tom. But why is the sunroof excluded from the uk spec? Thats a deabreaker for me.
The FWD frunk cubby is larger in other markets.
I agree, EV6 RWD in other markets has a bigger frunk / froot compared to AWD models which is the same as what Tom's review is showing. Strange why US models has the small one for RWD models?
@@mfarrel Probably the lack of a child safety release like the Mach-E. Mach-E put in dividers.
@11:05 Turns out that you can swap the Volume/Tuning functions via Settings.
Great review as usual I only wish you would include the autos overall length in your reviews. Thanks.
"using my neighbor's level 2...". That's one way to reduce the "gas" bill. 🤣🤣🤣
Jk... It's nice to see folks getting along with their neighbors.
They're great neighbors. And I compensate. Installing Level 2 is a summer project for me that involves 40 feet of trenching and drilling through concrete.
The charging infrastructure should be a robot with battery simply patrols the parking lot
I live in Missouri. Long and Hot Hot summers, Cold Cold winters. The range for EVs in this area is not great.
7-8 hours for a charge? Who would ever buy one of these? Lots of money for a single purpose urban only car.
Your reviews continue to be my favorite. 👏🏼🙌🏼
Gee, Nissan has been selling a 'mainstream' EV for over 10 years now.
It looks good. But it looks like it was just punched in the face really hard.
Great video Tom, and I'm very glad that you tell it as it is when it comes to EV adoption in all your EV videos. I truly want to own an EV one day, but I'm in the prairies of Canada and the charging network is nearly non existent. At the rate we're going, it's going to take decades. So, I don't feel so guilty driving my AMG and C8 around. But I think I might one day ...
Outstanding review. Cool car! What are you doing with all that teepee?
Too many mark ups by many dealerships to purchase this car. Not worth it
I have seen one of these and it's not a Tesla. I main reason why I purchase a Tesla because of the super chargers. Which the other ev makers do not have.
Not a good car for Canada. It loses 30% battery efficiency in the winter.
..."GM Markets this...?"
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for me i find it annoying that my passenger can dial my audio. if they want me to turn it down or anything just ask or say so. i dont like people fiddeling with things in my car they might hit or do something they dont know what is so on :P
CarPlay and Android Auto are wireless - see Bolt EUV
This and the Ionic 5 and game changers and legit Tesla competition. Very much needed. I hope these help get to the EV tipping point.
Tesla vs Kia with a chance at better build quality and reliability. You can surmise which one I'd pick.
@@tav0303 If I didn't have a Tesla and I was in the market for an EV I'd buy an EV6 no question about it...or an Ionic 5...whichever I could find first, in the spec I wanted, that was being sold at MSRP.
@@joshmatlock1020 With some diligence and patience it is possible to find EV6 at MSRP.
7:27 Ugh that “big blind spot” is a deal breaker. I’ll look at the Subaru Solterra
Hi Tom thanks for the great review, would love to get your opinion of the Hyundai Ioniq5 vs the EV6. Styling is subjective and I prefer the exterior of the Ioniq5... however Kia seems to have been thoughtful in its execution for the interior, actual buttons(although haptic) for seat heat/cooling, and I like the easy fold rear seats from the boot, the negative... all the gloss black plastic 👎
I'll have an Ioniq5 review in a couple weeks. Just got out of it. They feel quite different, I can tell you that now.
@@DrivenCarReviews Thanks Tom! Can't wait for your insights in the review
I've had my Ioniq 5 Limited AWD for about a month now. Great car! I was thinking about the EV6, but my ageing bod said that the I5 would be more practical. On the impractical side, the I5 AWD acceleration is scary.