Vlog 9 How to upset your supervisor
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- Опубликовано: 24 май 2016
- The relationship between supervisor/s and student is the key to the intellectual, emotional and career success of a PhD. But a lot can go wrong in and with this relationship. Tara explores with PhD students what can happen to upset, disturb and disappoint supervisors. She also shows how to continue to build a relationship built on trust, kindness, intellectual generosity and respect.
This woman could read the phone book and I'd still watch her videos. Her voice is mesmerizing.
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As a PhD student, I loved this video. Again: I loved this video. I'm just baffled by the fact that someone with a freaking RESTRAINING ORDER was allowed to continue their PhD, and even through continuing harassment to their new supervisor! Why would any university let someone like that even graduate?
the information you received 4 years ago was a subtle early indication of what 2022 would be like
if their remedy were to go uncorrected
Agreed, even with a restraining order, you can't guarantee that both the student and instructor won't be in the same events, parties, and workshops presented by the doctoral program. It is just not safe enough for the instructor.
I heard that motivation from the student is key to success. However, what happens when the supervisor crushes the student's motivation?
I am at another Uni, but have decided to adopt and stalk these videos, your vibrancy is amazing.
Wonderful. Oddly, I'm a middle aged man who is almost certainly finished with my formal education, but your wisdom, enthusiasm and humor make me want to head back to school to work on earning a Ph.D.
You are obviously a gift to us Tara.
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Response required and comment thankfully received! This is a very special place and job Kerz Kinetic. I feel lucky every day to have a chance to work with you all. Txxx
Thank you. As a PhD student who has had a good relationship so far, this was the video I needed to make my relationship even greater.
Tara, I started crying when you said (she wrote 13000 words in two years and a half) I'm now at the beginning of the third year and I have only written around 9000 words. My supervisor stopped the regular meeting in her office and asked me to send her an e-mail about the progress every other weeks. I'm really struggling because I'm international student and the two supervisors have nothing to do with my field. I really miss the guidance. Thank you very much for this RUclips. The story of the student was really inspirational and emotional, it gave me a hope that I could do it. I came across your channel from your precious article (10 truths a PhD supervisor will never tell you). Thank you Tara for sharing your experience, advice, tips . Thank you from the depth of my heart for your honest support and supervision for that broken, hopeless student. It is really a miracle. God bless you.
Wonderful Platonicpeace - you hang in there. You can do this. You've got my support. You can do it. My advice is just try - a day at a time - an hour at a time - to get words on the page. Just try that. Let me know how you get on - and we'll get that thesis done for you. Please feel free to find me on twitter and facebook if I can be of support. You can do this. I know you can. Every best wish to you. Txxx
Thank you Tara. This is really encouraging. Yes, I'd love to follow you on Twitter. I just wonder, which account I should follow is it @tarabrabazon or @Flinders.
Babe Flinders is a wonderful Follow - great university :) But also feel free to follow me. I talk a fair amount about research and ideas for PhD students. Love to see you! Txxx
This is the first comment I’ve ever written in RUclips. You’re really great Tara and your motivation really drives me! Your videos are very helpful
You are amazing Tara as that student sounded extremely troubled and having been in welfare in my past life, it does concern me how ill-prepared and suited some students are for uni. It really is an injustice to those who are around them. Take care x
Thanks for taking the time out and make this contribution. You're making the lives of so many PhD students better.🙏
This is an incredible resource for PhD students. Thanks a million Tara. You are an amazing presenter. Your students are blessed to have you as their supervisor.
Tara, I came across your channel from your precious article (10 truths a PhD supervisor will never tell you). Thank you Tara for sharing your experience, advice and tips . Thank you from the depth of my heart for your honest support and supervision for that broken, hopeless student. It is really a miracle that you both could work it out. God bless you. I really started crying when you said (she wrote 13000 words in two years and a half) I'm now at the beginning of the third year and I have only written around 9000 words. My supervisor stopped the regular meeting in her office and asked me to send her only e-mails about the progress every other weeks. But I did not miss any thing, because usually the meeting lasts no more than 13 min. I'm really struggling because I'm international student and the two supervisors have nothing to do with my field. I really miss the guidance. Thank you very much for this RUclips. The story of the student was really inspirational and emotional, it gave me a hope that I could do it.
Thank you so much, superstar! You take care - you are already and always enough. Promise :) Hang in there :) Txxx
The biggest revelation ever! Thank you for opening my eyes!
I am an incoming Ph.D. student and I am really glad I came across this video. I have a good feeling your tips will really help me develop a meaningful and productive relationship with my supervisor.
Thank you, Tara for this inspiring talk. That student from your example is very lucky to be rescued from the crisis. I love your vlog and am grateful for your advice and great support.
Hi Tawnie - so lovely to hear from you! I always feel so privileged when we have a chance to work with great scholars. They deserve our support. Please keep in touch - and let me know if there is any area you would like me to address! Every best wish Txxx
You have such an amazing personality, Tara. Thank you for sharing your experiences and knowledge. Your videos make me reflect deeply. Thank you
I’m new in this channel and so in love with Prof Tara. Thank you for your insight
OMW! You are so amazing, I am so lucky to have stumbled upon your videos. Thank you for all the eye opening information
Professor, thank you for all the wisdom and advices
Where have you been all my life? Spot on with the list. I am a professor in the biomedical research field & the best way to upset me is to be frequently absent & away from the lab, insert too many unfounded opinions at lab meetings rather than actual work, act like you know everything about my research when it is obvious you don’t, generate sloppy data & writing, expect me to approve this kind of output & then get upset when I don’t. All students & advisors should watch this.
This video is so great I wish I could hug you. It helped me A LOT. I'm about to start, so those tips were gold. Thank you. Thank you Thank you.
Best advice ever. Much Love and thank you so much
What a lady !!!
@Tara you are the reason I am now going take the PhD on .. huge motivation
Xoxo!!!
Brilliantly presents golden tips to help us, the students to attain insight into the Supervisor's mind... Greetings from South Africa...
Thank you so much for this vlog! It will make all the difference in helping me to form a good relationship with my supervisor and make the most out of my research project.
Absolutely wonderful ...love you too Tara
I love you Tara, I wish I could do some research under your supervision, even if it's a short term one.
You are fabulous. The problem with my advisor that I have encountered is that I can't seem to get any feedback on my work. Inevitably there are corrections that need to be made, but I don't get them unless I go to the uttermost to elicit the response from him. Then it is delivered in a way that conveys a kind of "you should have known what I wanted" attitude. It's hard to know what someone wants when they hardly ever communicate with you. Also, it is difficult getting research feedback from him but in the rare case I do get feedback, it's about formatting, not the meat and potatoes. This video helped, thank you.
Carlos - I would be honest. I would aim for CLARITY. Explain to the supervisor that you need clear feedback - and specify the areas. I know that takes courage and confidence. But explain WHAT YOU NEED. Every supervision is different... Please keep in touch - let me know if I can help xxx
I am in the same situation. They still have not told me if my proposal has been approved after re-working it several times according to their requirements. It´s like I have to hound them. I´m in America, by the way. A phd I think takes longer here. I study political philosophy. My professors make me wait indefinitely. They have no consideration for the time of students. In their minds I will get my PhD when I get it. I really want to finish!! its been 8 years!! Im so done. I wish my university would do what you´re doing.
I really love your videos. I remember you giving me some advise as a first year PhD student and now I am in my "ABD" stage of my program. I thank God for my supervisor because at first communication was like at zero. I wanted to hurry up and get it done BUT what I did not know is there is a process that must take place i.e. paperwork, committee meetings, etc.
Extremely thank you!!! If I could do PhD with peace, it will be because of you. It is necessary for a student to understand their mistakes. I understood mine. I hope others will also do. Just one thing, I would want to add here is, there are some supervisors who doesn't talk much or doesn't expresses what they want from a student. Being a student, I can only understand when the supervisor will tell me what is her expectations... Still, I respect my supervisors and got a great respect for you that you highlighted very important issues from the supervisor's point of view. It will help me to help my supervisor to help me getting my PhD.
That Yoko Ono reference made my day. I love these vlogs, can't wait to start a PhD!
did you?
You are an amazing Academic and a good supervisor and mentor to your students. We need more academics like you in faculties.
Great video / lessons for post grads. Some seem so obvious that its surprising that candidates are still guilty of these behaviours.
you are an absolute saint! Amazing work! Thank you for your dedication.
Thanks so much Indrinita xxx
that was so great.... thank you, so much love from Kenya
I love this Supervisor advice.
I really love your videos!! Thank you!
you are a complete gift from God
I'm still early into my uni career but I hope to go further into academia and probably a PhD, and these videos have been very informative (even if I am perhaps jumping the gun a little watching them now lol). Thank you!
Amazing video ! You are great !
Best video ever! Help me and my supervisor already!
not planning to take PhD but really enjoy your vlog!
She is absolutely Marvelous ❤️
Thank you, Tara, your valuable time and information are really appreciated. a social study master student.
Thanks so much for your lovely words - keep in touch :) Txxx
Great insight! I wish a 3-year Ph.D. was possible in Biochem! :-)
love your videos..
Great advice for new students. It's really important that we should talk more about works and ideas instead of talking more about other stuff.
thanks alot Tara, yo dearly loved,
This is so good and so funny
Dear Prof Tara, thank you for your videos. But I have a question, does your advice apply to PhD students in computer science and engineering field? Because it seems that those fields would not be as concerned in writing of the thesis. Would that be correct?
Hi JoeCJK :) So great to hear from you. Some of the best writers I have met have been engineers - and I've met some fine writers in computer science! But the positioning of that writing is different. So the literature review - systematic review - may be at the start. But these fields - alongside lab-based sciences - frequently have an intense 'writing up' period. In the theoretical social sciences and the humanities, the writing is more constant. But for other disciplines, it is skewed at the end. All disciplines have technical elements and specialist vocabulary. But - wow - I've met some amazingly talented engineers who write with clarity and brilliance :) Hope that helps a bit! Txxx
On 2 minutes , what an engaging video ,
I feel like I'm motivated and my supervisor wants to hold me hostage to fulfill her agenda. She never wants me to graduate this is a pattern with most of her students they stay in the program way way wayyy longer than other students.
Thank you for your VDO Tara. :)
My pleasure superstar :) Stay happy, brilliant and fabulous! Txxx
The Catherine Tate impression @ 14:51 had me in stitches.
Very funny. This is someone who loves what she is doing.
Thanks for letting everyone know
Brilliant thank you
Hi, Tara. Thanks for all of your beautiful videos. I have some problems. Can u please help me.
1. I am already 1 year and a half in my Phd but I haven't produced a word and yet not even decided my research topic.
2. I think that I am that silence type of student. In the start my supervisor and a senior student try to setup the weekly meeting sessions but i escaped that because I was very fearful , hence, after sometime they left me at my own. So, when ever i feel like i will go and contact them. slowly it turned into one time a month and right now I am procrastinating and seldom sees them.
3. It is important to note that when i came to this university 3.5 years ago for my masters program. I was very active and motivated (although I was an average student by every standard) and hence my supervisor suggested me to do a Phd and I started it. Slowly I lost all my zeal and inspiration and right now I am lost. I read and watch all sort of philosophical things on internet and it feels to me that they are more important meanwhile I also learnt a foreign language with quite an accuracy.
Is there any way, I can make a come back. I don't know what to do anymore. Please, help. Thanks
TheAARSAA - hello. So lovely to hear from you. What I'd advise is firstly, have a look at vlog 47 (I think :)) - how to get unstuck. But what I'd say to you - is relax - breathe - and do not judge yourself. You cannot change the past. None of us can. But make a decision today. What do I want to do with my thesis. You can stop - and that is a legitimate decision. But you can make a decision - today - to start this thesis. Regroup - focus - what is your argument - what do you want to prove - what do you want to change? Start here - and keep posting here or sending me a message. I am here to help. You can do it... Txxx
Do a thesis on what excites you
Very helpful, thank you
Thank you so much
One reason for 4 happens when an older, much less ict savvy, student, emails in draft after draft and is not told, and is too snowed under and ignorant to modern assessment procedures, to realize, (despite struggling through difficult ict supplementary classes),that the feedback she wanted WAS being given, but in electronic form, added to the documents she'd emailed in (i.e. they were actually interactive documents). She'd come out of monthly meetings feeling more distraught because the oral comment amounted to nothing much except negative criticism of the student's application or some such. That seemed to hint that she must, yet again change the approach to the phenomenon . And neither of the experts ever asked WHY she seemed not to be responding to their feed back. Feedback???? So, since she'd read over 1500 texts in that year, seen the real problem she needed to address, worked out a how, the best theorists, the ethics involved.and also realised it was not going to lead anywhere in nursing that hadn't already been partially accounted for, as far as health care went. it all came unstuck, because the key idea building got lost somewhere, over time. I think a better approach might have been to open the first marked draft chapter on the screen and go through it with the student at least that first time, then told her where to find it on her computer! So 4 might also mean an older, less tech savvy student was lost through ICT! How about COMS adds an ICT component and the 2 are offered as an option as a summer school pre-commencement. Cathy J.
You are so wise, Cathy - the best supervision unpicks the assumptions. Assumptions hurt students and staff. We can assume nothing. But conversation creates the foundation for learning.... Txxx
As a Ph.D. candidate, I have been motived to move on, these videos are super educative. Thank you, Prof Tara, may God bless you always.
OMG that student from hell was a psychopath :-0 I would have called the police. You were a saint to ensure that the student completed her studies successfully. Sheesh.
Just curious. Why do supervisors care about students ? Will students' success or fail influence their reputation or income or anything?
Thank you for making theses videos. I like your videos very much. Try to coach up all of them.
Unfortunately yes. The number of PhD students graduated will form part of the supervisor’s CV and his reputation in his field. For early career professors, the number of PhD students graduated is important even for his own promotion.
Of course, some supervisor truly care about his students’ success as a human, which is good.
you sure got my attention already in the 1st 5 secs..
And it gets funnier and funnier hahaha...and the amazing thing is I learnt while I laughed!
My supervisor never cared for any of his PhD students....mere SADIST!!!!!!
I share the same too
Selection of a supervisor - a chain of your Ph.D is as strong as its weakest choice of supervisor - is the pivotal cog in making-believe that your journey is going to be effortless. Truth is not spoken, told or exposed but worn daily without any fail... hmmm
Can you make a vedio on the role of Research Advisory Committee. My Supervisor finalised the work but these people are creating a lot of hurdles.
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I had a conversation with my supervisor at the beginning that i didnt want to code, and he said he had a project that satifies that, then a month before the deadline he said it would be difficult without coding, why would he put me in this situation? It was masters dissertation.
Lol
4:29 three one-hour meetings a day? Gosh! :)
thank u
I'm wondering how someone that bad (30,000 words of drivel) even passes the comprehensive exams. I mean, we're talking about people who are at the dissertation drafting stage. How do they even get that far?
Supervisor is not a god , we dont have to make a supervisor happy it's the work that is important not the drama
ok i will come to your office ...
I don't understand how someone can shout at their supervisor... what?!?!?
hahaha. Yoko Ono Students..ROFL
Send them trillions of msn messages
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