For video I would choose mark 2 any day. For photos I will choose neither of them. I've seen here A7III for ~$800 few times already (new), so this would be my photo choice in this price range.
If I were in the market, (and I may be), I would opt for the A6700. The 1st Gen ZV-10 would be my second choice based on its attractive price, size, and overall feature set but the 4k video crop combined with the poor stabilization, and bad grip really makes it a tough camera to buy into. I could get around this though using a gimbal for video. The latest ZVE-10 has better features than the original but I would still go with the A6700 over it every single time. The A6700 has a comfortable grip, excellent handheld video stabilization, has the large battery, mechanical shutter (mentioned) and everything the two ZV-10 cameras are missing, albeit at a greater price.
Thanks for the insight, Charlie. The A7iii might be the last sony camera for me. Seeing all the techs that could've trickle down to the lower end cameras with friendly pricing and frequent FW updates really make me sad for us sony customers. Looking forward to healthier competitions between brands for our benefit.
It's a really good video camera ... but it's not made for vlogging with lack of IBIS and 33% crop with e-stabilisation :D. I might get one actually as my b-cam for A7IV, although so far the price here in Poland is ~$1280 due to VAT, so quite steep.
@@JoATTech yeah, it might be an amazing B cam, and i feel like it’s the end of Sony’s inexpensive lineup. 10 bit camera on sticks, might be good enough for much of what i do.
@@JoATTech Your comment does highlight the conundrum with the camera. They bill it for vlogging but the stabilization isn't necessarily top of the line in that you have to use a gimbal or live with some pretty sizable, micro 4/3 camera type crops when shooting 4K using digital stabilization. This makes some of those m4/3 Panasonic(LX100 mii, Gx9) and Olympus cameras,(Pen F, Pen E-P7, OMD), however older worth considering in my book.
@@Cthames123 Exactly what I meant. Pocket 3 is much better than this one for vlogging. And it's cheaper and has a wireless lav mic in creator combo (still cheaper than ZV-E10 mkII). But for YT studio shots ZV-E10 MKII is 10x better than Pocket 3 (with its 20mm fixed F5.5 FF equiv aputure). So ZV-E10 MK2 is great camera, but definitely not for vlogging. I have no idea what Sony thinks advertising this as vlogging camera. I've seems some reviews, and reviewers seems to use ninja walk to prove it's vlogging camera ... LOL.
@@JoATTech Yup! That's largely how I view it as well. The ZVE-10 line is a good entry into the Sony interchangeable lens system,(beginner or seasoned pro), who want a tiny yet capable solution for everyday photo and video. For video, yes, you're not going to get Pocket 3 stabilization straight out of camera, but you can stabilize shakey walking handheld footage in post with the free catalyst browse. If you shoot on a tripod or sit the camera on a flat surface, (i.e. car dashboard), you don't need stabilization and what we are describing as lacking video stabilization is irrelevant to you. If you are a photo first shooter who does occasional video the thought of catalyst browse is not a terrible idea, and the photography aspect of the camera blows away anything the pocket 3 can do. I understand there are enhancements to the original, ZV-E10 but those enhancements in my mind don't justify the extra cost. For me, the ZV-E10 mii now makes the original more attractive considering the inevitable price reduction that will be seen on brand new and used models.
@@Cthames123 For me it would probably make great b-cam for my A7IV (same codes and color profiles). But this could be easily really good A-cam for YT studio work (or as you said shots from tripods or any other static shots). In my country A6700 is 30% more expensive, and since I have A7IV as my main photo camera I do not really need photo capabilities of it. But if someone needs real hybrid, A6700 is much better choice.
How do you think about m2 as a start camera for a beginner photographer which photo is the main scenario and video the second? Or maybe you can advise some other cameras that fit better?
I self identify as a photo first hybrid shooter who could care less about 10 bit, (haven't grown into it yet). The price vs feature set of the original ZV-10 at $600-$700 new makes sense. The A6700 at $1400 is starting to feel a little expensive vs the A7C full frame but, ok maybe...But the ZV-10 mii at $1000 doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I can get a gently used full frame A7C for roughly the same price in July 2024, and it's not $300 better than the original, (to me).
850 to 900 seems more right for the zve10ii, sony needs entry level cameras to match entry level pricing... but I see what they're doing, deviating from entry level at all
Based on the reviews I've seen ZV-E10 MK2 is legit YT studio camera if you want to record 4k24p or 4k25p. If I'm on a budget I will buy 2 of them to have 2 angles.
Is there any competition from other brands to this camera in terms of video quality in that price range? Kinda doubt it, although I'm not a Fuji expert.
For video I would choose mark 2 any day. For photos I will choose neither of them. I've seen here A7III for ~$800 few times already (new), so this would be my photo choice in this price range.
If I were in the market, (and I may be), I would opt for the A6700. The 1st Gen ZV-10 would be my second choice based on its attractive price, size, and overall feature set but the 4k video crop combined with the poor stabilization, and bad grip really makes it a tough camera to buy into. I could get around this though using a gimbal for video. The latest ZVE-10 has better features than the original but I would still go with the A6700 over it every single time. The A6700 has a comfortable grip, excellent handheld video stabilization, has the large battery, mechanical shutter (mentioned) and everything the two ZV-10 cameras are missing, albeit at a greater price.
Thanks for the insight, Charlie. The A7iii might be the last sony camera for me. Seeing all the techs that could've trickle down to the lower end cameras with friendly pricing and frequent FW updates really make me sad for us sony customers. Looking forward to healthier competitions between brands for our benefit.
It's a really good video camera ... but it's not made for vlogging with lack of IBIS and 33% crop with e-stabilisation :D.
I might get one actually as my b-cam for A7IV, although so far the price here in Poland is ~$1280 due to VAT, so quite steep.
@@JoATTech yeah, it might be an amazing B cam, and i feel like it’s the end of Sony’s inexpensive lineup. 10 bit camera on sticks, might be good enough for much of what i do.
@@JoATTech Your comment does highlight the conundrum with the camera. They bill it for vlogging but the stabilization isn't necessarily top of the line in that you have to use a gimbal or live with some pretty sizable, micro 4/3 camera type crops when shooting 4K using digital stabilization. This makes some of those m4/3 Panasonic(LX100 mii, Gx9) and Olympus cameras,(Pen F, Pen E-P7, OMD), however older worth considering in my book.
@@Cthames123 Exactly what I meant. Pocket 3 is much better than this one for vlogging. And it's cheaper and has a wireless lav mic in creator combo (still cheaper than ZV-E10 mkII).
But for YT studio shots ZV-E10 MKII is 10x better than Pocket 3 (with its 20mm fixed F5.5 FF equiv aputure).
So ZV-E10 MK2 is great camera, but definitely not for vlogging. I have no idea what Sony thinks advertising this as vlogging camera.
I've seems some reviews, and reviewers seems to use ninja walk to prove it's vlogging camera ... LOL.
@@JoATTech Yup! That's largely how I view it as well. The ZVE-10 line is a good entry into the Sony interchangeable lens system,(beginner or seasoned pro), who want a tiny yet capable solution for everyday photo and video.
For video, yes, you're not going to get Pocket 3 stabilization straight out of camera, but you can stabilize shakey walking handheld footage in post with the free catalyst browse. If you shoot on a tripod or sit the camera on a flat surface, (i.e. car dashboard), you don't need stabilization and what we are describing as lacking video stabilization is irrelevant to you.
If you are a photo first shooter who does occasional video the thought of catalyst browse is not a terrible idea, and the photography aspect of the camera blows away anything the pocket 3 can do.
I understand there are enhancements to the original, ZV-E10 but those enhancements in my mind don't justify the extra cost.
For me, the ZV-E10 mii now makes the original more attractive considering the inevitable price reduction that will be seen on brand new and used models.
@@Cthames123 For me it would probably make great b-cam for my A7IV (same codes and color profiles). But this could be easily really good A-cam for YT studio work (or as you said shots from tripods or any other static shots).
In my country A6700 is 30% more expensive, and since I have A7IV as my main photo camera I do not really need photo capabilities of it.
But if someone needs real hybrid, A6700 is much better choice.
I agree with you
How do you think about m2 as a start camera for a beginner photographer which photo is the main scenario and video the second? Or maybe you can advise some other cameras that fit better?
I self identify as a photo first hybrid shooter who could care less about 10 bit, (haven't grown into it yet). The price vs feature set of the original ZV-10 at $600-$700 new makes sense. The A6700 at $1400 is starting to feel a little expensive vs the A7C full frame but, ok maybe...But the ZV-10 mii at $1000 doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I can get a gently used full frame A7C for roughly the same price in July 2024, and it's not $300 better than the original, (to me).
850 to 900 seems more right for the zve10ii, sony needs entry level cameras to match entry level pricing... but I see what they're doing, deviating from entry level at all
Based on the reviews I've seen ZV-E10 MK2 is legit YT studio camera if you want to record 4k24p or 4k25p.
If I'm on a budget I will buy 2 of them to have 2 angles.
Hey Guy, how about doing a Viltrox FZ100 test !?!
Same same but different.
Is there any competition from other brands to this camera in terms of video quality in that price range? Kinda doubt it, although I'm not a Fuji expert.
they are both bad, no ibis for vlogging cam