Ruahines is a leading expert on the Royal Enfield, Sir. And from my correspondence with him, he’s a wealth of amazing information and expertise on these bikes and gives excellent advice.
@@SOLOMOTOUK Take your time running it in & after grease & relays & a re flash won't hurt either you'll be thundering down the road & have smiles for miles.The first 100 miles is the most important not to do more than 15miles max & let it cool down for at least 20mins to take heat out of engine then put another 12-15miles on it & same again till 100miles.After that don't ride more than 35mins till 300miles then no more than a hour till 1200miles. It says in owners manual don't exceed 4000rpm till 300miles but I would do 600miles & 4000rpm is about 100kmh(60mph)in top gear so more than enough.After 600miles don't exceed 5000rpm in top gear 120kmh & bike will loosen up & get faster over time.Running in can take a while but is rewarding at the end. Also I would wait till 400miles before adding k&n air filter & slip on's.Oil cooled engines need a slow & easy run in compared to water cooled.
This is the first time i seen your Chanel but i like to say i glad you are healthy again . I had cancer 5 yr. Ago and so far so good . Brother i hope you get your bikes strighting out . good luck from the U.S. TENNESSEE .
Thanks for kind words .my favorite bikes are Triumphs , i have never had a chance to ride a second generation Triumphs but i have a 57, 63, 69, and a 70 . Thanks for the kind words , by the way i am 59 and live in Tennessee . good by my Friend .
Hiya. So, just to confirm, I took delivery of the GT650, and the bike was cutting out, especially when rolling to a stop at a junction. The relays were bathed in white grease. I didn't replace, I just cleaned them all up, got rid of 90% of the grease and it hasn't cut out once since. Have about 3200km with no problems on it now. Wouldn't say they were cheap/nasty relays, just the amount of grease is mental. Same goes for a connector in a rubber boot in there, cleaned all that up as well. The GT650 comes with the touring seat, and I have to say, its comfortable. Have done 300km in a day with no real issues or pain, a little inner thigh discomfort after 4 hours, nothing a tea stop and a 5 minute walkabout doesn't fix. Lastly, I was getting a rear brake light issue as well, (not as regular as you, but a couple of times) and I changed the levers (Diablo K-speed jobs) and again, no further issues at all. Keep with it, she'll be a stonking little bike once the teething issues are ironed out!
Hi Andrew yes mine cut after cleaning them all even on the way to the dealership to look at it they gave it an ecu flash working perfectly since then I’ve got Hitchcocks relays to after the 1st service on Monday coming and new seat exhaust for it thank you 👍👍🙏
Wonderful video Derek. The lever there and the seat could be better, but these minor negative things nowadays almost all brands have. You offered such an amount of info in this video. Keep up man. My like was no. 304.
My Euro5 Interceptor was cutting out. After 2 reflashes, the dealership replaced the ECU under Warrantee and it's sorted (thank god). It was beginning to ruin the whole experience of the bike. Falling back in love again.
Hi David sounds like you had more trouble than me then hope mine doesn’t breakdown again fingers crossed our bikes are sorted now thank you for watching and commenting 👍👍🙏🙏
I had the same cutting out problem with my interceptor on my ride home when first purchased the bike. Next day cleaned all the relays, bike now runs with no problems.
Hi Stuart definitely a common problem I had to go to Hinckley today take the car in for service while they was doing that I walked into the town centre and went to the dealership one of my relays was rusty I pulled showed the video and relay they give me a replacement and contacting RE Uk not using the bike there collecting it Thursday to sort it out I told what relays you I’m changing them I’ve bought the Hitchcocks ones today and there going in thank you for your comment 🙏🙏👍👍👍
If you're having cut-out issues - after removing the white grease; take a careful look at the relay spade female connector. Have heard of the female connectors being unseated in the mounting block, making intermittent contact with the relay. I suspect that's more common than any failing relay.
Hi the bike to dealership tomorrow I’ve cleaned all the relays thoroughly loads and loads of Grease in them over greased I think the tick over seems better but I showed them the video of the bike cutting out when I was riding 20/25 mph they said there give it ecu flash hopefully with the clean relay’s and the flash it will be running as it should thank you for your comment 👍👍🙏🙏
@@SOLOMOTOUK Good on you, persist with it. My EU4 has 24,000km on it, still with original relays (and white grease) and has never cut-out. I bought some spare relays but the cut-out problem has never occurred so I left them alone.
I had considered both of theses bike at some point but after listening to your vlog I'm really pleased I didn't bother . You made a good job of this vlog mate thanks for sharing hopefully you get this sorted ASAP but honestly this isn't a good review for Royal Enfield is it kind regards 😀 👍
Hi Graham I put it down to a bad dealership there mechanics or technicians nothing should be happening like they know these bikes cut out all it needs is an ecu flash and give the relays a good clean to remove that white grease if they done this right in the first place I wouldn’t of this up but people have to know about these E5 regulation Bikes. Thank you for your comment 👍👍🙏🙏🙏🙏
@@grayman999 hi Graham me to but I’ve bought the Hitchcocks relays so next week the iNTERCEPTOR goes in for its first service on Monday so will be changing them over for Hitchcocks one’s 100% more reliable it’s a shame none of the E4 one’s suffer like this only the E5 regulation ones gone to far with the emissions on it but sorted now thank you Graham. Derek. 🙏🙏👍
Well My 2018 has (hand on heart ) never had any issues,it did have the caliper recall and the dealer did the job no problem..it starts on the button stops ok ,,just a great bike..
Hi apparently all this cutting out and stalling is due to the new E5 2022 reg bikes they need a ecu flash and better relays some dealerships do some don’t which is wrong since I’ve had mine flashed it runs perfectly no problems thank you for your comment 👍👍🙏
Been to the dealership showed them the video of the bike cutting out I took a relay off and broke it open full of rust so I’m expecting the others to be like it dealership was shocked to see the rust in it I’ve ordered Hitchcocks relays be here tomorrow not having cheapo relays of them cheers for you comment 👍👍🙏🙏
Got the same interceptor as you here in Thailand and confirm your suggestion of getting a GT premium touring seat. Got mine from Raju Lax in India. Great service and price. Highly recommended
@@davidphilpott6968 I was on Hitchcocks web site last looking for a better seat they have a lovely red cowling thought I wouldn’t mind with the seat but unfortunately out of stock shame it’s the longer cowling not the short one all colour coded to the bike I’ll have the premium touring seat 👍👍👍🙏
I see a lot of videos with Enfield owners trying to tell you the build quality is great and the worries people have about an Indian built bike are unfounded, really interesting to see a video from someone actually having issues with the Interceptor.
The bike is great value for money & with abit if cash spent on it can be a great bike & still be cheaper than anything else.Derek is right about Euro 5 being leaned out more for emissions.It is hit & miss with Euro 5 models some just need new relays with twice the amps which increases the idle a little bit & improving fueling & starting so bike doesn't cut out under deacelleration.Some Euro 5 models need a re-flash either way clean grease off relays it is saturated in it & use a lithium base dielectric grease spray which is thin.Over time the R.E grease brakes down & looses it capability to carry current.I had one friend who's E 5 cut out & had it re-flashed 3 times then finally cleaned grease off & bike ran mint. Another mate's bike Euro 5 cut out repeatedly & he just kep't riding it & after 600km bike got better as it run in & stopped cutting out.Others have had no problems on E5.Best thing to do is clean grease off relays and use a lithium dielectric grease spray on day 1 or 2.Also order Hitchcocks Relays or Bosch with twice the amps to improve starting,idle will increase 100-150rpm on cold start & be 50-75rpm higher once warm. Fueling be improved & fuel pump run better all from Hitchcocks Relays. Iridium spark plugs will improve spark & bike run cooler which is better & R.E spark plugs are super thin.R.E probably makes their own Relays & have R.E logo on them & made out of cheap componentry & probably worth £1. Spark plugs are probably only £3-4 each one.R.E probably makes the grease to & own their own oil refinery in India. Classic 350 is a later model & doesn't seem to have same issues as R.E650 or Himmy,Scram. I would recommend on any new R.E650 or Himmy,Scram cleaning grease off on day 1-2,order Hitchcocks Relays, Iridium spark plugs definitely on Himmy. Hitchcocks Relays twice the amps £35 for 5pack. Remove grease free, Dielectric grease £10 NGK Iridium spark plugs £20 each. £65 all up & 30mins of your time is not much for peace of mind & an improvement on starting,fueling,idle Better spark & cooler plug & thicker tip & none of these mods will affect warranty.If cutting out still persists bike is under warranty & a re-flash is needed.Bike will run better & truly are great bikes once £65 spent on basic mods. Bike will have false neutrals while running in & get less & less & might not find first but gently moving gear shifter or turn bike off & on will remedy this but after 5-600miles gear box be broken in sufficiently.
@@ruahinesrider it almost seems like you're getting the true experience of purchasing a classic British bike where you have to do some fiddling to get it sorted! I have it in my head that whenever I want a break from big adventure/sports touring bikes I'll probably pick up either a Bonneville 900 or a Royal Enfield bike, in particular the 350cc engine seems very sweet but the ergonomics of the Scram 411 are also perfect for me. I really like the look of the Hunter 350 that's supposedly coming out though!
@@ruahinesrider hi RR yes I’ve bought the relays from Hitchcocks I’ve cleaned the relays off and pins spotlessly clean I put the electrical light grease on it plus the dealership gave it the ecu the flash. At the moment I’m on holiday the bike goes in on Monday coming for it’s 1st service the dealership said put the new relays in after the service the bike is running fantastic also got the dna filter for new slip on’s I’ll do a video when I get home also your right about the false neutrals I’ve had a few but do it softly don’t get any. Thank you for the brilliant advice 👍👍🙏🙏🙏
@@Geshmaal £50-£80 is nothing to improve bike & you can spend £1700 on a R.E650 & still be £1800 cheaper than a T100,W800 & not every one wants to or can afford to spend £10,000 on a one bike or you could by 2 a classic 350 or Scram,Himmy or even BSA if they any good.They are great bikes & new 350 seem to be trouble free being newer.I would recommend these bikes to anyone but tell them they need £50-80 spent on stock 650 or 411.Out of all the modern classics truly look the best & at a reasonable price.Idealy owning a R.E & maybe a Triumph Street Twin,T100 or Motoguzzi V7 be the ultimate line up in your shed.If you do alot of long distance touring a more expensive T120 but the modern Triumphs are water-cooled & if that ain't your thing the Motoguzzi V7 has a 21liter tank & is a capable tourer or a air cooled Harley Davidson & second hand 1200 Sportster I wouldn't bother with a 883.You can your on anything but if you live in USA or countries with higher motorway speed limits a bigger bike will do it easier but no fun in riding on motorways all day & they have a slow lane but back roads is where the most fun is.
Hi Derek, Shame Vicky has had teething problems, if it’s all down to them relays when they should be replaced at PDI and Royal Enfield need to take note. Looking forward to August and the TET run 👍🏼 All the best Paul
Hi Paul it will definitely get sorted next week I’ve wrote to RE UK just waiting for a reply from them looking forward to the tet run thank you for watching 👍👍🙏
I think you have been mighty unlucky with your Royal Enfield's Deg. Hopefully it all gets sorted and you'll be as happy as I am with mine. All the best!
Hi it’s going I on Thursday I showed them the footage of it cutting out while riding lucky I was only doing 20/25 mph the rear wheel locked up quick thinking pulled the clutch in saved me going down death trap it is just think if someone behind rear ended me I wonder who would take the blame i royal Enfield wouldn’t they know these bikes need the relays replacing why don’t they do it before they let the go the all year motorcyclist said his dealership Haywoods do it might take there under warranty at least it will get sorted
Took the words out my mouth I’ll definitely going to by Hitchcocks relays for both bikes it will give me peace of mind travelling cheers for the reply 👍👍🙏🙏
I put Hitchcocks relays in the witch. Turned out the spark plug was duff, but I feel better knowing I’ve done the relays. Seems to be a common fault 👍🏼
@@Saddlebags73 here’s one Ainsworth rider just got a brand 22 reg yesterday from the dealership traded his Honda nc 750X for it don’t know what the deal was on his way home from rochdale to Ainsworth by bury Manchester it kept cutting out I told take the plug replace it with either a NGK or iridium plug don’t know which one he bought but he rang and said how did you know that told the RoyyEnfield guru this parts funny he said I’ve looked on RUclips and google saying who his he I said your speaking to him F you F,in g Bas--d I couldn’t stop laughing I he tell him it worked runs okay but isn’t bad brand new bike like mine cutting out 👍👍👍🙏
Sorry to hear about your issues with your Intercepter and scram, to be honest I think it's way passed time royal enfield sorted it out, especially the interceptor relay issues which have been known for the last year or so, they must surely be aware of the problem, it certainly needs addressing from their side, customers shouldn't have to deal with this, and buy relays on a brand new motorbike 🙄
Hi Kevin it should be sorted the dealership told me it the E5 regulations ones what happens the E4 when they changing down the fuel still comes in so the bike don’t stall like the E5 ones do the fuel on them stop hence the stalling it’s got to have a flash done doesn’t matter relays they put on or clean I bought a full set from Hitchcocks for peace of mind a lot of people have had trouble with the relay’s with this model 22reg shame anyway be sorted soon thanks for the comment 👍👍🙏
@@SOLOMOTOUK yeah my dealer said on the subject two things, first is that the five prong relays seem to be a bit iffy, so changing to the four prong helps, and he had a customer with an issue, but after a ecm flash the guy rang the dealership to say it was like a different bike much smoother and better all round, but still it needs to be addressed by RE as this kinda thing can damage the manufacturer reputation 👍🏻
@@kevindarkstar hi Kevin your right about the relays I’ve bought Hitchcocks ones plus the dealership gave the ecu a flash my bike is running has it now but the dealership’s should get on to royal Enfield and tell them the problem’s people are having with the E5 models. Thanks for your comment 👍👍🙏🙏
Thanks for the update Derick once it’s sorted it will be fine keep up the great work buddy regards Jim. P.s I’m 65 and I’ll still be buying the 650 but thanks to your help I’ll make sure them bloody relays are fit for the rd before delivery. Cheers
Hi thank you I’ll put a video of what they have done to the bike but I’m definitely buying the Hitchcocks one roughly £30 each need 4 so £120 for absolutely reliability is well worth the money Even through the dealership should do it 🙏🙏👍 thank you
@@SOLOMOTOUK Hi the Relays from Hitchcocks are £8 each & a 5pack is £35 if you already ordered 4 packs of 5 for £120 the Himmy (Scram) has 3-4relays as well so replace them too.My bike is Euro 4 & has 4 relays & 1 of them is a auxiliary or spare.The Euro 5 might only have three I think but not 100% sure.Always sell the extras to R.E650 & 411 owners at club someone will want them & pay £5 for them but keep 1 each spare for each bike. Also if you're interested a guy called It's all R.C & R.E sells oil caps with the logo painted red or black & is in Yorkshire & has done some painting of logo on fly screen & a brake reservoir & HIS bike is a Mk2 as well & looks fantastic.HE has a indepth video about grease in Relays & is top bloke & I'm a subscriber of HIS too. Check HIM out & his grease in relay video & tell I told you about HIM. Not sure how far Yorkshire is from you.
@@ruahinesrider hi not had any starting or stalling or cutting out on the scram411 but will get enough relays to.replace them on that one I’ve seen that channel he is good like his side panels he done 👍👍🙏
I’m sure all will end well just teething problems fingers crossed both bikes look immaculate you’ll get there. In the end it just puts a dampener on with them been new bikes
Hi Derek, bare in mind some of the nobbly's are very noisy, I put Hedineau k70's on my classic 500, between 30 to 40mph all you can here is an irritating wine, I'm going to change them...
I have the same motorcycle and had issues of cutting out on deceleration around 1200 to 1300 rpm. Tried checking fuel pump, vacuum hose, relays, grease etc etc etc...... Solution to the problem: Re map ecu by upgraded software from RE done by the dealer and the bike rides like a dream and the problems never to be seen again. Most euro 5 models need this re map done at pdi as per re.
Hi Dev had a lot of good advice like your there doing the flash on Thursday this week coming with the flash and the grease issue should be well sorted thank you for your comment 👍👍👍🙏🙏🙏
@@SOLOMOTOUK Good luck for tomorrow. Generally re map/new map/flash happens from Chennai India Re factory. Dealer will try first and then will realise that he has to connect to India. Just a heads up to make sure you have "FULLY SYNTHETIC OIL" in your engine. This can be confirmed by asking a simple question to the dealer. These days everything is so modern that the motorcycle should have the right oil for the sensors to do their job.
Don't loose faith pal, it's a general failure of re inty/conti.mine was similar to yours but after I changed to iridium spark plugs,cleared all the chip fat off the connections and replaced the relays with Bosch the fault has gone it's a shame we have to sort these little faults ourselves £50 well spent though .did ruahines rider tell you about the connector for the battery lead (up the back of the air box) could also be chip fatted up.hope all goes well for you👍
Hi mark I’d already got the ones from Hitchcocks it’s no more then 18 miles my house didn’t even know I was that close to them also got the DNA filter from and some other parts I’ll be putting a video Monday latest Tuesday the bike goes in for it’s 1st service on Monday thank you 🙏🙏👍👍
I've read about a lot of people having problems with the relays on later model Interceptors. I got mine back in 2019 and, on a couple of occasions it wouldn't start first time. I was having a look to see if I could figure it out, couldn't believe how much white grease they'd put on the relays. I cleaned off as much as I could and the starting problem hasn't reoccurred. At a later date I'm definitely going to buy a set from Hitchcock's, mine are fine, apparently it's the latter bikes that may have dodgy relays.
Hi Paul now I’m wiser from reading on here it seems that’s the only thing wrong with these bikes is the relay’s I’ve ordered Hitchcocks ones but the bikes going to the dealership to see why it’s cutting out they said it’s got some to do with the E5 regulations I’ll put a video once it is done thank you 👍👍🙏
That's exactly what the problem is in some cases, the E5 bikes run very lean to get through the emission test. Let them update the ECU but it's more likely to be the relays.
@@paulstoker7650 they said the E4 bikes don’t do it cause they still let petrol in where as E5 shuts it completely of he said hence the stalling & cutting out doing it Thursday should be happy days 👍👍🙏🙏
Bloody ridiculous that emissions are so tight that the bloody engine has trouble running, considering that a motorcycle has way less output than a car or van this is green madness!
Derek thanks for your honest vlog...so different from the Press Releases that are passed off by 'journalists' as reviews! I live in India and I have been plagued with reliability issues from Day 1. Most have to do with the design and low quality of components. India is a price driven market and hence RE are trying to get the right balance between what is acceptable (in terms of quality, reliability and safety) and how it impacts the price. Here are some of the issues I have faced. My fuel injection suddenly failed at 90 kmph and before I knew it was almost hit by a delivery truck. The chain guard is made of the cheapest plastic and can be quite brittle. This somehow snapped and got pulled in by the chain getting lodged in the engine sprocket. The rear wheel locked and I fell; fortunately no bones broken. Is this just a freak accident? Twice I've had the rear brake calipers cease and the bike cant be moved till the brakes cool down. Mind you I never ever ride with my foot on the brake pedal and only touch the brakes when required. The electricals are poor, the lights are powered by candle light and the suspension is very, very basic. The seat is terribly uncomfortable and just good enough for a 30 minute ride. I do not buy RE's argument that it can be replaced with a touring seat. This is just another way of making money by sale of 'spaces'. Why cant they just sell the bike with the right seat? The rear seat is even worse and just not meant for a pillion rider. The rear foot-pegs are placed very high due to the monstrosity of exhaust system which add weight to what is already a heavy bike. Even the mirrors are pretty much ineffective offering little visibility. And RE are rust buckets!! Bikes half the price come with better suspension, LED lights better quality components and certainly more reliable. RE should buy Hitchcocks. That would sort out many of their problems. And I like your Yorkshire terrier. Don't see them anymore in India.
Hi Raj I think being honest like you think people would say this to royal Enfield so they can sort this out over here in the Uk 🇬🇧 it’s classed as a budget bike pay for what you get they all come with 3 years warranty here. Some of the parts are very very cheaply made eg indicators cheap chrome plastics they will not last a couple of seasons. If Royal Enfield upped there game and put better quality parts on and charged a bit more it would be a brilliant bike but there’s that many aftermarket parts for sale you can make it a much better bike. Has for the reliability I had second thoughts but my bike is an E5 emissions it strangles the bike I was told the E4 version is better but since I took it back and complained and said I was going to contact Royal Enfield and Complain they gave mine and ECU flash it’s sorted my bike out plus I’ve bought a few parts from Hitchcocks relays DNA filter different exhaust that are lower to the ground instead of sticking up like rocket launchers hate them to big to heavy like you say they get in the way. I’m off for a week but the bike goes in for its first service a week on Monday so let’s see if there’s any changes. Thank you for your honesty about these bikes 🙏🙏🙏🙏👍
@@SOLOMOTOUK Sadly we don't have a Hitchcocks in India. Those that have the money and access to a good mechanic in India switch to PowerTronic ECU. However RE say that the warranty seizes once OE is replaced with aftermarket parts. So does the Insurance.
@@RajA-wi2ut hi saying what you said over here they you put better relays in and air filters and it doesn’t void the warranty I asked my dealership about he said the above BUT don’t change them until the bike has been run in and had it’s first service all good to go then the other thing the exhaust changing the slip on’s they if the effect the co2 sensor that will not be covered the General advice is to fit them take the bike for at least a minimum of a 30 mile ride so the ecu knows and some how sets the mixture right through the sensors. You were lucky not to have serious injuries when you came off your bike. I have 2 Yorkshire terriers boy and girl never breed them thank you for your reply stay blessed and safe 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏👍👍
I prebought the premium seat on ebay for 80$aus,u can tell the diff as it has custom red stiching,im not shure its continental or inter,i think its just called the premium seat for RE650s,on the relays i saw a video a brit guy got palsonic or something for 3pds each and he said his runs fine now too..
Hi the premium seat does have the red stitching on it your right I’ve bought a couple now different ones just waiting for them to be delivered which ones I don’t like I’ll drop them on eBay it will be trial and error to find the right one. All seats fit both bikes the GT & Interceptor the bike as had a ecu flash working perfectly as it should thank you 👍👍🙏🙏
Hopefully Nev it will be Thursday next week but I’m still going to buy the Hitchcocks relays there world know and absolutely 100% reliable for royal Enfield bikes thank you 👍👍🙏
Hi I’ve cleaned all the relays of that thick white grease but mine still cut taking it to the dealership for ecu flash told them it cut out said once it’s had it’s 1st service Monday coming I’ll fit the Hitchcocks relays that I bought they said it’s okay with the warranty as well the bike hasn’t cut out since the flash so all good so far. Be a video going up on Monday 8th as I’m on holiday at the moment thanks for watching and commenting 🙏🙏👍
I’ve never had a problem with my euro 4 model but I do agree that the seat is uncomfortable and I have fitted the GT comfort thingy seat. Now it’s near perfect and loving it😁
Hi definitely a problem with the E5 regulations went back in today had the ecu flash oh man perfect as can be lovely no more cutting tick over perfect happy with the bike now thanks for watching and commenting 🙏🙏👍👍👍
@@RajA-wi2ut bet that strangles your bike even more how do they expect bikes to run with all these different ignition filters built-in definitely not good 👍👍🙏🙏
@@SOLOMOTOUK Yes. Performance is compromised. Every 6 months we have to get a PUC (pollution Under Control) test and certificate. Failure to do results in a fine /penalty. Every biker dreams of a trip to Ladakh.But the new bikes suffer as they struggle due to the low oxygen. That is why the RE Classic 500 is best as we replace the fuel injection with carburetor. We can adjust the air screw accordingly for the high altitude but bikes with ECU are a problem. These mountain passes are over 17000- 19100 feet.! Khardungla at (18400 feet) and Umling la (19,100) passes are spectacular rides.
@@RajA-wi2ut hi definitely see what your saying about the emissions and E6 were on E5 for bikes and E6 for cars and other vehicles personally I think it’s to late to change now the damage is done take years and years to get it right. I’ve heard there’s some beautiful places in your country to see and visit thank you 🙏🙏🙏👍
Being the closest dealer is 4 hours from me, I’d go broke dealing with warranty issues, should I encounter any. But I do like watching the various R.E. videos RUclips.
Hi Derek, I am a new subscriber to your channel and have enjoyed watching your vlogs on the RE SCRAM411. You seem to be riding around my neck of the woods in these vlogs, so it's nice to see areas in which I know. Not sure where you are based but if you want a ride out, go to Completely Motorcyles at Hinckley and feast your eyes in the array of bikes there. In the 15 months I have been back riding again, I had three nice bikes from them. Anyway, looking forward to watching further videos on your bikes and ride outs. All the best John
Hope it all gets sorted out quickly, all these issues are making me a little concerned about my 350... So far no problems but it's always something in the back of my mind... 👍
Hi Nick thank you don’t worry about the 350 it’s these 650’s twins that have the problems the Continental GT is the same if they don’t sort it there’s other dealerships out there who would under warranty I like the sound of the all year round dealership sound top notch I’ll go there if the bike makes it 🤣🤣🙏🙏🙏anyway thanks for watching and commenting. 👍
What I don't understand is that given this issue is well reported why don't dealers remove the grease pre delivery to the customer, it's not rocket science! This sort of thing damages the brand reputation
@@kevindarkstar there’s only a handful that do clean all the grease of they all year Motorcyclist he said Haywoods where he lives clean it all off and take the bike out for a min of 10/15 mile test ride to make it’s fit for the use my dealership Drayton Croft in Hinckley rubbish only got young mechanics or technicians don’t know nothing Straight Outta college thank you 🙏
Relays are probably ok being new bike it's the grease that's the issue. On my bike I had starting issues occasionally from pick up & developed a faulty relay after 4000km causing my fueling issue on deacelleration so got Hitchcocks Relays & they twice the amps & best thing I did & one relay was faulty.That's why shop saying it not relays but it's grease & shop won't clean grease off.R.E relays are shite & will fail eventually & is a cheap upgrade to get better relays for a better starting & idling & running bike. I had my bike loose power passing a car luckily it was on a passing lane & know one behind me that's when I researched it & found it grease causing starting issue & faulty relay on fuel pump.Himmy has to much grease as well & clean that too.
I cleaned a load of grease of them be honest not ride the bike but the tick over seems a lot better the Rev needle doesn’t seem to Fluctuate stays still 🙏🙏👍
Not really sure what you are on about? Your issue is very rare indeed lol 😂 these Royal Enfields are as reliable as an Anvil, if outs going wrong with them it's crap Mechanic's or Maintenance, nothing to do with the Bikes I'm afraid. Cheers Paul 👏
Cheap rusted inside relays broke one open today after digging and picking white grease away from it there all covered in it bad dealership I put down to they know these 650 twins suffer cutting out and stalling they should sort this before they letting take them out on the road 👍👍🙏🤣
@@WyreForestBiker same goes for the premium bmw cause I had nowt but a load of the biggest shit with that than any other brand £21,000 for a lump of scrap metal that till I contacted bmw Uk then the dealership jumped its who you know in the trade otherwise every bike can have it’s teething problems like this one it only happens to the 2022 reg ones mainly E5 regulations nothing a ecu flash put right thanks for comment 👍
I would clean grease in Scram too they have to much grease as well & get Hitchcocks relays for that too.I done a couple of budget videos on grease in relays but there a better & more indepth videos about grease in Relays.If you see that guy with the Gt seat again sit on it & for feel.Some people find the Gt seat abit hard & slippery & get the Touring Gt seat with the gel pad or the Interceptor touring seat.Each person's arse is different so it a trial & era with seats & like you said always sell it. I use a Trip Machine Suede seat which I love & is grippy no sliding around & is narrower & lower than stock or touring seat.Unfortunetly the Trip Machine seat has increased in value by $120(£70)since Uncle Stu Fillingham done a video on it.I got mine months before Stu Fillingham video & it cost me $380 delivered but I see they $500 not delivered now,perks of being on Uncle Stu video I guess. Your bars should of been tighten at dealership as bike might be shipped with bars removed same with brake lever these ain't a R.E problem but a dealership not checking properly. Bikes have bars removed & can tip on shipping etc.Alot of garages a remapping & not cleaning grease I would clean all the grease off & not use any or use a dialectic electrical grease spray which is thin.Also clean grease off battery cable connectors above relays as well.Grip puppies will increase the diameter of grips & help with vibrations.Mirrors always loosen on new bikes so pays to check them.The Enfield Precision mufflers you want have a clamp that covers the join where they connect,on Hitchcocks website on the slip on page at bottom it says related parts & has a link to clamp. Hitchcocks is amazing business & should be the go to shop for R.E. It is truly a great bike once these small issues sorted & value for money is great.
Hi thank you for your comment. I didn’t know Hitchcocks is only about 19 miles away from where I live going to pop over tomorrow Monday and get the stuff I need 🙏🙏🙏👍👍
@@SOLOMOTOUK This link is really great & HE has had exactly same problems as you & explains it very well & shows it step by step. I have had about 8 moles cold burnt off & about 8 removed but luckily they were ok.
@@ruahinesrider hi Ruahines rider still got a big one behind my left ear they have removed twice and goes back this hopefully this time it stays away for good thank you 🙏 👍👍I cannot see the link 👍
Hi I own a Royal Enfield dealership here in India since the last 30 years. We can help you with parts, accesories as well as maintainance consulting to name a few.
Thank you Derek for some brilliant videos on the RE Interceptor 650. I look forward to seeing many more! My intention is to order the Canyon Red version for March next year. This is obviously a common problem with the relays fitted to the bike as you will see on this link- ruclips.net/video/oEQR1h1d2Mo/видео.html I couldn't believe the cheek of the supplying dealership wanting to charge you £78 for an inspection. I'm confident that this will be resolved to your satisfaction. Best of luck, Mark
Hi mark thank you once they sort it on Thursday I’m still buying the Hitchcocks relays a good few people on here have told me to buy them much much better then the ones royal Enfield fit I’ll have a look a the link thank you wish you well when you get your bike 👍👍👍🙏
Ruahines is a leading expert on the Royal Enfield, Sir. And from my correspondence with him, he’s a wealth of amazing information and expertise on these bikes and gives excellent advice.
Hi John yes gave me some excellent info i really appreciate it 🙏🙏👍
Thank you for the praise & kind words John.Did you get out this weekend?
It was really cold 🥶 in the Ruahine Rangers this weekend so didn't get out.
@@SOLOMOTOUK Thanks 👍 for the shout out Derek.👌
@@ruahinesrider your so welcome you have helped me loads 👍👍🙏🙏
@@SOLOMOTOUK Take your time running it in & after grease & relays & a re flash won't hurt either you'll be thundering down the road & have smiles for miles.The first 100 miles is the most important not to do more than 15miles max & let it cool down for at least 20mins to take heat out of engine then put another 12-15miles on it & same again till 100miles.After that don't ride more than 35mins till 300miles then no more than a hour till 1200miles.
It says in owners manual don't exceed 4000rpm till 300miles but I would do 600miles & 4000rpm is about 100kmh(60mph)in top gear so more than enough.After 600miles don't exceed 5000rpm in top gear 120kmh & bike will loosen up & get faster over time.Running in can take a while but is rewarding at the end.
Also I would wait till 400miles before adding k&n air filter & slip on's.Oil cooled engines need a slow & easy run in compared to water cooled.
This is the first time i seen your Chanel but i like to say i glad you are healthy again . I had cancer 5 yr. Ago and so far so good . Brother i hope you get your bikes strighting out . good luck from the U.S. TENNESSEE .
Hi Duane thank you glad to hear your clear the bikes are running as they should be 🙏🙏👍
Thanks for kind words .my favorite bikes are Triumphs , i have never had a chance to ride a second generation Triumphs but i have a 57, 63, 69, and a 70 . Thanks for the kind words , by the way i am 59 and live in Tennessee . good by my Friend .
Hiya. So, just to confirm, I took delivery of the GT650, and the bike was cutting out, especially when rolling to a stop at a junction.
The relays were bathed in white grease. I didn't replace, I just cleaned them all up, got rid of 90% of the grease and it hasn't cut out once since. Have about 3200km with no problems on it now. Wouldn't say they were cheap/nasty relays, just the amount of grease is mental. Same goes for a connector in a rubber boot in there, cleaned all that up as well.
The GT650 comes with the touring seat, and I have to say, its comfortable. Have done 300km in a day with no real issues or pain, a little inner thigh discomfort after 4 hours, nothing a tea stop and a 5 minute walkabout doesn't fix.
Lastly, I was getting a rear brake light issue as well, (not as regular as you, but a couple of times) and I changed the levers (Diablo K-speed jobs) and again, no further issues at all.
Keep with it, she'll be a stonking little bike once the teething issues are ironed out!
Hi Andrew yes mine cut after cleaning them all even on the way to the dealership to look at it they gave it an ecu flash working perfectly since then I’ve got Hitchcocks relays to after the 1st service on Monday coming and new seat exhaust for it thank you 👍👍🙏
I own Royal Enfield 650 interceptor , Now its my favourite go to bike
Wonderful video Derek. The lever there and the seat could be better, but these minor negative things nowadays almost all brands have. You offered such an amount of info in this video. Keep up man. My like was no. 304.
Interesting vid sir. Thank you.
Hi thank you for dropping by 👍👍🙏🙏
My Euro5 Interceptor was cutting out. After 2 reflashes, the dealership replaced the ECU under Warrantee and it's sorted (thank god). It was beginning to ruin the whole experience of the bike. Falling back in love again.
Hi David sounds like you had more trouble than me then hope mine doesn’t breakdown again fingers crossed our bikes are sorted now thank you for watching and commenting 👍👍🙏🙏
I had the same cutting out problem with my interceptor on my ride home when first purchased the bike. Next day cleaned all the relays, bike now runs with no problems.
Hi Stuart definitely a common problem I had to go to Hinckley today take the car in for service while they was doing that I walked into the town centre and went to the dealership one of my relays was rusty I pulled showed the video and relay they give me a replacement and contacting RE Uk not using the bike there collecting it Thursday to sort it out I told what relays you I’m changing them I’ve bought the Hitchcocks ones today and there going in thank you for your comment 🙏🙏👍👍👍
great views sir,
Thank you 👍👍🙏🙏🙏
Nice to meet you Derek
Hi Paul thank you 👍👍🙏
I agree there are really average mechanic' and technicians out there. I have had all sorts of issues. Take care Mate.
Hi it’s not good problems from day one hopefully when this is sorted that will be it 👍👍🙏
If you're having cut-out issues - after removing the white grease; take a careful look at the relay spade female connector. Have heard of the female connectors being unseated in the mounting block, making intermittent contact with the relay. I suspect that's more common than any failing relay.
Hi the bike to dealership tomorrow I’ve cleaned all the relays thoroughly loads and loads of Grease in them over greased I think the tick over seems better but I showed them the video of the bike cutting out when I was riding 20/25 mph they said there give it ecu flash hopefully with the clean relay’s and the flash it will be running as it should thank you for your comment 👍👍🙏🙏
@@SOLOMOTOUK Good on you, persist with it. My EU4 has 24,000km on it, still with original relays (and white grease) and has never cut-out. I bought some spare relays but the cut-out problem has never occurred so I left them alone.
@@HaggisPower hi thanks for your comment just about to leaves to take the bike in thank you 👍👍🙏
I had considered both of theses bike at some point but after listening to your vlog I'm really pleased I didn't bother . You made a good job of this vlog mate thanks for sharing hopefully you get this sorted ASAP but honestly this isn't a good review for Royal Enfield is it kind regards 😀 👍
Hi Graham I put it down to a bad dealership there mechanics or technicians nothing should be happening like they know these bikes cut out all it needs is an ecu flash and give the relays a good clean to remove that white grease if they done this right in the first place I wouldn’t of this up but people have to know about these E5 regulation Bikes. Thank you for your comment 👍👍🙏🙏🙏🙏
Hi Graham forgot to mention both bikes have been repaired and both running has they should 👍👍👍🙏🙏🙏
@@SOLOMOTOUK I’m pleased it is sorted
@@grayman999 hi Graham me to but I’ve bought the Hitchcocks relays so next week the iNTERCEPTOR goes in for its first service on Monday so will be changing them over for Hitchcocks one’s 100% more reliable it’s a shame none of the E4 one’s suffer like this only the E5 regulation ones gone to far with the emissions on it but sorted now thank you Graham.
Derek. 🙏🙏👍
Well My 2018 has (hand on heart ) never had any issues,it did have the caliper recall and the dealer did the job no problem..it starts on the button stops ok ,,just a great bike..
Hi apparently all this cutting out and stalling is due to the new E5 2022 reg bikes they need a ecu flash and better relays some dealerships do some don’t which is wrong since I’ve had mine flashed it runs perfectly no problems thank you for your comment 👍👍🙏
Hi Derek i hope it all gets sorted for you mate, ride safe
Thank you Steve hopefully it will be done next week ride safe till then I’ll update on it when I get it back 👍👍👍🙏
The bar end mirrors were fitted on my Interceptor when I bought it.Absolutely brilliant rear views.Cleaning the relays cured my start up problem.
Been to the dealership showed them the video of the bike cutting out I took a relay off and broke it open full of rust so I’m expecting the others to be like it dealership was shocked to see the rust in it I’ve ordered Hitchcocks relays be here tomorrow not having cheapo relays of them cheers for you comment 👍👍🙏🙏
Aye, I was planning to buy the Hitchcocks relays just for peace of mind.
@@jimmymac9388 whole set £35 then vat on top I bought some other parts as well 👍👍👍
Got the same interceptor as you here in Thailand and confirm your suggestion of getting a GT premium touring seat. Got mine from Raju Lax in India. Great service and price. Highly recommended
Hi thanks for that I’ll have a look 👍👍🙏
PREMIUM touring seat is the newer type and also got better material than older style PLUS red stitching that nicely matches our tanks too!!!
@@davidphilpott6968 I was on Hitchcocks web site last looking for a better seat they have a lovely red cowling thought I wouldn’t mind with the seat but unfortunately out of stock shame it’s the longer cowling not the short one all colour coded to the bike I’ll have the premium touring seat 👍👍👍🙏
LOVE the location of the clocks!
Thank you 🙏 🙏🙏
Subscribed .
Great work very informative .
When I get my Interceptor ill do the relays !👍
Hi thanks for watching I’ll be doing a follow up video on Thursday or Friday when I get the bike back thanks for subscribing🙏👍
I see a lot of videos with Enfield owners trying to tell you the build quality is great and the worries people have about an Indian built bike are unfounded, really interesting to see a video from someone actually having issues with the Interceptor.
Hi yes definitely had problems with mine but it’s all been sorted now they gave the euc a flash works perfectly good thank you 👍👍🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
The bike is great value for money & with abit if cash spent on it can be a great bike & still be cheaper than anything else.Derek is right about Euro 5 being leaned out more for emissions.It is hit & miss with Euro 5 models some just need new relays with twice the amps which increases the idle a little bit & improving fueling & starting so bike doesn't cut out under deacelleration.Some Euro 5 models need a re-flash either way clean grease off relays it is saturated in it & use a lithium base dielectric grease spray which is thin.Over time the R.E grease brakes down & looses it capability to carry current.I had one friend who's E 5 cut out & had it re-flashed 3 times then finally cleaned grease off & bike ran mint.
Another mate's bike Euro 5 cut out repeatedly & he just kep't riding it & after 600km bike got better as it run in & stopped cutting out.Others have had no problems on E5.Best thing to do is clean grease off relays and use a lithium dielectric grease spray on day 1 or 2.Also order Hitchcocks Relays or Bosch with twice the amps to improve starting,idle will increase 100-150rpm on cold start & be 50-75rpm higher once warm.
Fueling be improved & fuel pump run better all from Hitchcocks Relays.
Iridium spark plugs will improve spark & bike run cooler which is better & R.E spark plugs are super thin.R.E probably makes their own Relays & have R.E logo on them & made out of cheap componentry & probably worth £1.
Spark plugs are probably only £3-4 each one.R.E probably makes the grease to & own their own oil refinery in India.
Classic 350 is a later model & doesn't seem to have same issues as R.E650 or Himmy,Scram.
I would recommend on any new R.E650 or Himmy,Scram cleaning grease off on day 1-2,order Hitchcocks Relays, Iridium spark plugs definitely on Himmy.
Hitchcocks Relays twice the amps £35 for 5pack.
Remove grease free, Dielectric grease £10
NGK Iridium spark plugs £20 each.
£65 all up & 30mins of your time is not much for peace of mind & an improvement on starting,fueling,idle
Better spark & cooler plug & thicker tip & none of these mods will affect warranty.If cutting out still persists bike is under warranty & a re-flash is needed.Bike will run better & truly are great bikes once £65 spent on basic mods.
Bike will have false neutrals while running in & get less & less & might not find first but gently moving gear shifter or turn bike off & on will remedy this but after 5-600miles gear box be broken in sufficiently.
@@ruahinesrider it almost seems like you're getting the true experience of purchasing a classic British bike where you have to do some fiddling to get it sorted! I have it in my head that whenever I want a break from big adventure/sports touring bikes I'll probably pick up either a Bonneville 900 or a Royal Enfield bike, in particular the 350cc engine seems very sweet but the ergonomics of the Scram 411 are also perfect for me. I really like the look of the Hunter 350 that's supposedly coming out though!
@@ruahinesrider hi RR yes I’ve bought the relays from Hitchcocks I’ve cleaned the relays off and pins spotlessly clean I put the electrical light grease on it plus the dealership gave it the ecu the flash. At the moment I’m on holiday the bike goes in on Monday coming for it’s 1st service the dealership said put the new relays in after the service the bike is running fantastic also got the dna filter for new slip on’s I’ll do a video when I get home also your right about the false neutrals I’ve had a few but do it softly don’t get any. Thank you for the brilliant advice 👍👍🙏🙏🙏
@@Geshmaal £50-£80 is nothing to improve bike & you can spend £1700 on a R.E650 & still be £1800 cheaper than a T100,W800 & not every one wants to or can afford to spend £10,000 on a one bike or you could by 2 a classic 350 or Scram,Himmy or even BSA if they any good.They are great bikes & new 350 seem to be trouble free being newer.I would recommend these bikes to anyone but tell them they need £50-80 spent on stock 650 or 411.Out of all the modern classics truly look the best & at a reasonable price.Idealy owning a R.E & maybe a Triumph Street Twin,T100 or Motoguzzi V7 be the ultimate line up in your shed.If you do alot of long distance touring a more expensive
T120 but the modern Triumphs are water-cooled & if that ain't your thing the Motoguzzi V7 has a 21liter tank & is a capable tourer or a air cooled Harley Davidson & second hand 1200 Sportster I wouldn't bother with a 883.You can your on anything but if you live in USA or countries with higher motorway speed limits a bigger bike will do it easier but no fun in riding on motorways all day & they have a slow lane but back roads is where the most fun is.
Hi Derek,
Shame Vicky has had teething problems, if it’s all down to them relays when they should be replaced at PDI and Royal Enfield need to take note.
Looking forward to August and the TET run 👍🏼
All the best
Paul
Hi Paul it will definitely get sorted next week I’ve wrote to RE UK just waiting for a reply from them looking forward to the tet run thank you for watching 👍👍🙏
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I think you have been mighty unlucky with your Royal Enfield's Deg. Hopefully it all gets sorted and you'll be as happy as I am with mine. All the best!
Hi it’s going I on Thursday I showed them the footage of it cutting out while riding lucky I was only doing 20/25 mph the rear wheel locked up quick thinking pulled the clutch in saved me going down death trap it is just think if someone behind rear ended me I wonder who would take the blame i royal Enfield wouldn’t they know these bikes need the relays replacing why don’t they do it before they let the go the all year motorcyclist said his dealership Haywoods do it might take there under warranty at least it will get sorted
Finding a good dealership seems hard these days 🤷🏻♂️
Took the words out my mouth I’ll definitely going to by Hitchcocks relays for both bikes it will give me peace of mind travelling cheers for the reply 👍👍🙏🙏
I put Hitchcocks relays in the witch. Turned out the spark plug was duff, but I feel better knowing I’ve done the relays. Seems to be a common fault 👍🏼
@@Saddlebags73 here’s one Ainsworth rider just got a brand 22 reg yesterday from the dealership traded his Honda nc 750X for it don’t know what the deal was on his way home from rochdale to Ainsworth by bury Manchester it kept cutting out I told take the plug replace it with either a NGK or iridium plug don’t know which one he bought but he rang and said how did you know that told the RoyyEnfield guru this parts funny he said I’ve looked on RUclips and google saying who his he I said your speaking to him F you F,in g Bas--d I couldn’t stop laughing I he tell him it worked runs okay but isn’t bad brand new bike like mine cutting out 👍👍👍🙏
Sorry to hear about your issues with your Intercepter and scram, to be honest I think it's way passed time royal enfield sorted it out, especially the interceptor relay issues which have been known for the last year or so, they must surely be aware of the problem, it certainly needs addressing from their side, customers shouldn't have to deal with this, and buy relays on a brand new motorbike 🙄
Hi Kevin it should be sorted the dealership told me it the E5 regulations ones what happens the E4 when they changing down the fuel still comes in so the bike don’t stall like the E5 ones do the fuel on them stop hence the stalling it’s got to have a flash done doesn’t matter relays they put on or clean I bought a full set from Hitchcocks for peace of mind a lot of people have had trouble with the relay’s with this model 22reg shame anyway be sorted soon thanks for the comment 👍👍🙏
the dealer is to blame !
@@SOLOMOTOUK yeah my dealer said on the subject two things, first is that the five prong relays seem to be a bit iffy, so changing to the four prong helps, and he had a customer with an issue, but after a ecm flash the guy rang the dealership to say it was like a different bike much smoother and better all round, but still it needs to be addressed by RE as this kinda thing can damage the manufacturer reputation 👍🏻
@@kevindarkstar hi Kevin your right about the relays I’ve bought Hitchcocks ones plus the dealership gave the ecu a flash my bike is running has it now but the dealership’s should get on to royal Enfield and tell them the problem’s people are having with the E5 models.
Thanks for your comment 👍👍🙏🙏
wishing you all the best - biking is an adventure! Vicky will get sorted. And you don't look a day over 60 Derek 😉🤣😋
Hi thank you next week will tell but definitely buying the relays from Hitchcocks thank you for watching 👍👍👍🙏
Thanks for the update Derick once it’s sorted it will be fine keep up the great work buddy regards Jim. P.s I’m 65 and I’ll still be buying the 650 but thanks to your help I’ll make sure them bloody relays are fit for the rd before delivery. Cheers
Hi thank you I’ll put a video of what they have done to the bike but I’m definitely buying the Hitchcocks one roughly £30 each need 4 so £120 for absolutely reliability is well worth the money
Even through the dealership should do it 🙏🙏👍 thank you
@@SOLOMOTOUK Hi the Relays from Hitchcocks are £8 each & a 5pack is £35 if you already ordered 4 packs of 5 for £120 the Himmy (Scram) has 3-4relays as well so replace them too.My bike is Euro 4 & has 4 relays & 1 of them is a auxiliary or spare.The Euro 5 might only have three I think but not 100% sure.Always sell the extras to R.E650 & 411 owners at club someone will want them & pay £5 for them but keep 1 each spare for each bike.
Also if you're interested a guy called
It's all R.C & R.E sells oil caps with the logo painted red or black & is in Yorkshire & has done some painting of logo on fly screen & a brake reservoir & HIS bike is a Mk2 as well & looks fantastic.HE has a indepth video about grease in Relays & is top bloke & I'm a subscriber of HIS too.
Check HIM out & his grease in relay video & tell I told you about HIM.
Not sure how far Yorkshire is from you.
This is the site & relay video from It's all R.C & R.E
ruclips.net/video/Utkq-uDcYPc/видео.html
@@ruahinesrider hi not had any starting or stalling or cutting out on the scram411 but will get enough relays to.replace them on that one I’ve seen that channel he is good like his side panels he done 👍👍🙏
@@ruahinesrider mine were very similar with that white grease terrible it is thank you 👍👍
I’m sure all will end well just teething problems fingers crossed both bikes look immaculate you’ll get there. In the end it just puts a dampener on with them been new bikes
Hi Bob yes once sorted they should be okay definitely buying the Hitchcocks relays thank you for your support 👍👍🙏🙏
Hi Derek, bare in mind some of the nobbly's are very noisy, I put Hedineau k70's on my classic 500, between 30 to 40mph all you can here is an irritating wine, I'm going to change them...
Hi Paul I don’t think I’ll do it nobody got the size’s I want the ones on it should be okay it small to med rocks at salter fell thank you 👍👍🤣
Hi Derek, just wondering how much did dealer charge you for the first service on the scram?
£195 but 10% loyal card off 👍👍
@@SOLOMOTOUK thanks mines going in tomorrow 👍
@@ivormorris1917 I think that’s the going rate some may differ £5/10 depending what area your in 👍👍🙏
Ride safe my friend
Thank you will do 🙏🙏🙏👍
two beauties
Thank you for watching 🙏🙏👍
I have the same motorcycle and had issues of cutting out on deceleration around 1200 to 1300 rpm. Tried checking fuel pump, vacuum hose, relays, grease etc etc etc......
Solution to the problem: Re map ecu by upgraded software from RE done by the dealer and the bike rides like a dream and the problems never to be seen again. Most euro 5 models need this re map done at pdi as per re.
Hi Dev had a lot of good advice like your there doing the flash on Thursday this week coming with the flash and the grease issue should be well sorted thank you for your comment 👍👍👍🙏🙏🙏
@@SOLOMOTOUK you will get there mate. It's a great bike to ride and own!! Once they flash the ecu you will be good to go. Good luck.
@@dev8546 thank you 🙏 🙏👍
@@SOLOMOTOUK Good luck for tomorrow. Generally re map/new map/flash happens from Chennai India Re factory. Dealer will try first and then will realise that he has to connect to India. Just a heads up to make sure you have "FULLY SYNTHETIC OIL" in your engine. This can be confirmed by asking a simple question to the dealer. These days everything is so modern that the motorcycle should have the right oil for the sensors to do their job.
@@dev8546 thank you for that information I’ll ask them 🙏🙏👍👍
Don't loose faith pal, it's a general failure of re inty/conti.mine was similar to yours but after I changed to iridium spark plugs,cleared all the chip fat off the connections and replaced the relays with Bosch the fault has gone it's a shame we have to sort these little faults ourselves £50 well spent though .did ruahines rider tell you about the connector for the battery lead (up the back of the air box) could also be chip fatted up.hope all goes well for you👍
aew pipes on ebay , £160 from india plus import duty about the £200 make , thats whats going on mine
Hi mark I’d already got the ones from Hitchcocks it’s no more then 18 miles my house didn’t even know I was that close to them also got the DNA filter from and some other parts I’ll be putting a video Monday latest Tuesday the bike goes in for it’s 1st service on Monday thank you 🙏🙏👍👍
I've read about a lot of people having problems with the relays on later model Interceptors.
I got mine back in 2019 and, on a couple of occasions it wouldn't start first time.
I was having a look to see if I could figure it out, couldn't believe how much white grease they'd put on the relays.
I cleaned off as much as I could and the starting problem hasn't reoccurred.
At a later date I'm definitely going to buy a set from Hitchcock's, mine are fine, apparently it's the latter bikes that may have dodgy relays.
Hi Paul now I’m wiser from reading on here it seems that’s the only thing wrong with these bikes is the relay’s I’ve ordered Hitchcocks ones but the bikes going to the dealership to see why it’s cutting out they said it’s got some to do with the E5 regulations I’ll put a video once it is done thank you 👍👍🙏
That's exactly what the problem is in some cases, the E5 bikes run very lean to get through the emission test. Let them update the ECU but it's more likely to be the relays.
@@paulstoker7650 they said the E4 bikes don’t do it cause they still let petrol in where as E5 shuts it completely of he said hence the stalling & cutting out doing it Thursday should be happy days 👍👍🙏🙏
Bloody ridiculous that emissions are so tight that the bloody engine has trouble running, considering that a motorcycle has way less output than a car or van this is green madness!
@@kevindarkstar hi Kevin just left a comment for you 👍
Derek thanks for your honest vlog...so different from the Press Releases that are passed off by 'journalists' as reviews!
I live in India and I have been plagued with reliability issues from Day 1. Most have to do with the design and low quality of components.
India is a price driven market and hence RE are trying to get the right balance between what is acceptable (in terms of quality, reliability and safety) and how it impacts the price. Here are some of the issues I have faced. My fuel injection suddenly failed at 90 kmph and before I knew it was almost hit by a delivery truck.
The chain guard is made of the cheapest plastic and can be quite brittle. This somehow snapped and got pulled in by the chain getting lodged in the engine sprocket. The rear wheel locked and I fell; fortunately no bones broken. Is this just a freak accident?
Twice I've had the rear brake calipers cease and the bike cant be moved till the brakes cool down. Mind you I never ever ride with my foot on the brake pedal and only touch the brakes when required. The electricals are poor, the lights are powered by candle light and the suspension is very, very basic. The seat is terribly uncomfortable and just good enough for a 30 minute ride. I do not buy RE's argument that it can be replaced with a touring seat. This is just another way of making money by sale of 'spaces'. Why cant they just sell the bike with the right seat? The rear seat is even worse and just not meant for a pillion rider. The rear foot-pegs are placed very high due to the monstrosity of exhaust system which add weight to what is already a heavy bike. Even the mirrors are pretty much ineffective offering little visibility. And RE are rust buckets!! Bikes half the price come with better suspension, LED lights better quality components and certainly more reliable. RE should buy Hitchcocks. That would sort out many of their problems.
And I like your Yorkshire terrier. Don't see them anymore in India.
Hi Raj I think being honest like you think people would say this to royal Enfield so they can sort this out over here in the Uk 🇬🇧 it’s classed as a budget bike pay for what you get they all come with 3 years warranty here.
Some of the parts are very very cheaply made eg indicators cheap chrome plastics they will not last a couple of seasons.
If Royal Enfield upped there game and put better quality parts on and charged a bit more it would be a brilliant bike but there’s that many aftermarket parts for sale you can make it a much better bike.
Has for the reliability I had second thoughts but my bike is an E5 emissions it strangles the bike I was told the E4 version is better but since I took it back and complained and said I was going to contact Royal Enfield and Complain they gave mine and ECU flash it’s sorted my bike out plus I’ve bought a few parts from Hitchcocks relays DNA filter different exhaust that are lower to the ground instead of sticking up like rocket launchers hate them to big to heavy like you say they get in the way. I’m off for a week but the bike goes in for its first service a week on Monday so let’s see if there’s any changes.
Thank you for your honesty about these bikes 🙏🙏🙏🙏👍
@@SOLOMOTOUK Sadly we don't have a Hitchcocks in India. Those that have the money and access to a good mechanic in India switch to PowerTronic ECU. However RE say that the warranty seizes once OE is replaced with aftermarket parts. So does the Insurance.
@@RajA-wi2ut hi saying what you said over here they you put better relays in and air filters and it doesn’t void the warranty I asked my dealership about he said the above BUT don’t change them until the bike has been run in and had it’s first service all good to go then the other thing the exhaust changing the slip on’s they if the effect the co2 sensor that will not be covered the General advice is to fit them take the bike for at least a minimum of a 30 mile ride so the ecu knows and some how sets the mixture right through the sensors.
You were lucky not to have serious injuries when you came off your bike. I have 2 Yorkshire terriers boy and girl never breed them thank you for your reply stay blessed and safe 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏👍👍
I prebought the premium seat on ebay for 80$aus,u can tell the diff as it has custom red stiching,im not shure its continental or inter,i think its just called the premium seat for RE650s,on the relays i saw a video a brit guy got palsonic or something for 3pds each and he said his runs fine now too..
Hi the premium seat does have the red stitching on it your right I’ve bought a couple now different ones just waiting for them to be delivered which ones I don’t like I’ll drop them on eBay it will be trial and error to find the right one.
All seats fit both bikes the GT & Interceptor the bike as had a ecu flash working perfectly as it should thank you 👍👍🙏🙏
Fingers crossed everything gets fixed Derek.
Hopefully Nev it will be Thursday next week but I’m still going to buy the Hitchcocks relays there world know and absolutely 100% reliable for royal Enfield bikes thank you 👍👍🙏
i had the cutting out 3 times on my 2022 gt, cleaned all that white crap off, now fitted bosch relays, hasnt happened since i cleaned it
Hi I’ve cleaned all the relays of that thick white grease but mine still cut taking it to the dealership for ecu flash told them it cut out said once it’s had it’s 1st service Monday coming I’ll fit the Hitchcocks relays that I bought they said it’s okay with the warranty as well the bike hasn’t cut out since the flash so all good so far. Be a video going up on Monday 8th as I’m on holiday at the moment thanks for watching and commenting 🙏🙏👍
I’ve never had a problem with my euro 4 model but I do agree that the seat is uncomfortable and I have fitted the GT comfort thingy seat. Now it’s near perfect and loving it😁
Hi definitely a problem with the E5 regulations went back in today had the ecu flash oh man perfect as can be lovely no more cutting tick over perfect happy with the bike now thanks for watching and commenting 🙏🙏👍👍👍
@@SOLOMOTOUK In India we have Euro 6 also known in India as BS6.
@@RajA-wi2ut bet that strangles your bike even more how do they expect bikes to run with all these different ignition filters built-in definitely not good 👍👍🙏🙏
@@SOLOMOTOUK Yes. Performance is compromised. Every 6 months we have to get a PUC (pollution Under Control) test and certificate. Failure to do results in a fine /penalty.
Every biker dreams of a trip to Ladakh.But the new bikes suffer as they struggle due to the low oxygen. That is why the RE Classic 500 is best as we replace the fuel injection with carburetor. We can adjust the air screw accordingly for the high altitude but bikes with ECU are a problem. These mountain passes are over 17000- 19100 feet.! Khardungla at (18400 feet) and Umling la (19,100) passes are spectacular rides.
@@RajA-wi2ut hi definitely see what your saying about the emissions and E6 were on E5 for bikes and E6 for cars and other vehicles personally I think it’s to late to change now the damage is done take years and years to get it right.
I’ve heard there’s some beautiful places in your country to see and visit thank you 🙏🙏🙏👍
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Being the closest dealer is 4 hours from me, I’d go broke dealing with warranty issues, should I encounter any. But I do like watching the various R.E. videos RUclips.
Hi Alex thank for watching hopefully the bike will be all done on Thursday 👍🙏
@@SOLOMOTOUK - I’m sure they’ll sort it out 👍🏽
@@sboy1955 me too 👍🙏
Hi Derek, I am a new subscriber to your channel and have enjoyed watching your vlogs on the RE SCRAM411. You seem to be riding around my neck of the woods in these vlogs, so it's nice to see areas in which I know. Not sure where you are based but if you want a ride out, go to Completely Motorcyles at Hinckley and feast your eyes in the array of bikes there. In the 15 months I have been back riding again, I had three nice bikes from them. Anyway, looking forward to watching further videos on your bikes and ride outs. All the best John
I’ll have a look at that from Coventry thank you 🙏 cheers for subscribing 👍👍🙏🙏🙏
Hope it all gets sorted out quickly, all these issues are making me a little concerned about my 350... So far no problems but it's always something in the back of my mind... 👍
Hi Nick thank you don’t worry about the 350 it’s these 650’s twins that have the problems the Continental GT is the same if they don’t sort it there’s other dealerships out there who would under warranty I like the sound of the all year round dealership sound top notch I’ll go there if the bike makes it 🤣🤣🙏🙏🙏anyway thanks for watching and commenting. 👍
@@SOLOMOTOUK Theallyearmotorcyclist goes to a dealership called Haywards & sound top notch.
@@ruahinesrider if it wasn’t so far I’d take it there to get sorted that’s how all dealers should be thank you 🙏🙏👍
What I don't understand is that given this issue is well reported why don't dealers remove the grease pre delivery to the customer, it's not rocket science! This sort of thing damages the brand reputation
@@kevindarkstar there’s only a handful that do clean all the grease of they all year Motorcyclist he said Haywoods where he lives clean it all off and take the bike out for a min of 10/15 mile test ride to make it’s fit for the use my dealership Drayton Croft in Hinckley rubbish only got young mechanics or technicians don’t know nothing
Straight Outta college thank you 🙏
Relays are probably ok being new bike it's the grease that's the issue.
On my bike I had starting issues occasionally from pick up & developed a faulty relay after 4000km causing my fueling issue on deacelleration so got Hitchcocks Relays & they twice the amps & best thing I did & one relay was faulty.That's why shop saying it not relays but it's grease & shop won't clean grease off.R.E relays are shite & will fail eventually & is a cheap upgrade to get better relays for a better starting & idling & running bike.
I had my bike loose power passing a car luckily it was on a passing lane & know one behind me that's when I researched it & found it grease causing starting issue & faulty relay on fuel pump.Himmy has to much grease as well & clean that too.
I cleaned a load of grease of them be honest not ride the bike but the tick over seems a lot better the Rev needle doesn’t seem to Fluctuate stays still 🙏🙏👍
Not really sure what you are on about?
Your issue is very rare indeed lol 😂 these Royal Enfields are as reliable as an Anvil, if outs going wrong with them it's crap Mechanic's or Maintenance, nothing to do with the Bikes I'm afraid.
Cheers Paul 👏
Nowt wrong with these the bikes are okay it’s the electrics look at the comments 👍👍🤣🤣
Cheap rusted inside relays broke one open today after digging and picking white grease away from it there all covered in it bad dealership I put down to they know these 650 twins suffer cutting out and stalling they should sort this before they letting take them out on the road 👍👍🙏🤣
You joking ? ... the problem is VERY common and the general quality control poor . You
get what you pay for .
@@WyreForestBiker same goes for the premium bmw cause I had nowt but a load of the biggest shit with that than any other brand £21,000 for a lump of scrap metal that till I contacted bmw Uk then the dealership jumped its who you know in the trade otherwise every bike can have it’s teething problems like this one it only happens to the 2022 reg ones mainly E5 regulations nothing a ecu flash put right thanks for comment 👍
I would clean grease in Scram too they have to much grease as well & get Hitchcocks relays for that too.I done a couple of budget videos on grease in relays but there a better & more indepth videos about grease in Relays.If you see that guy with the Gt seat again sit on it & for feel.Some people find the Gt seat abit hard & slippery & get the Touring Gt seat with the gel pad or the Interceptor touring seat.Each person's arse is different so it a trial & era with seats & like you said always sell it.
I use a Trip Machine Suede seat which I love & is grippy no sliding around & is narrower & lower than stock or touring seat.Unfortunetly the Trip Machine seat has increased in value by $120(£70)since Uncle Stu Fillingham done a video on it.I got mine months before Stu Fillingham video & it cost me $380 delivered but I see they $500 not delivered now,perks of being on Uncle Stu video I guess.
Your bars should of been tighten at dealership as bike might be shipped with bars removed same with brake lever these ain't a R.E problem but a dealership not checking properly.
Bikes have bars removed & can tip on shipping etc.Alot of garages a remapping & not cleaning grease I would clean all the grease off & not use any or use a dialectic electrical grease spray which is thin.Also clean grease off battery cable connectors above relays as well.Grip puppies will increase the diameter of grips & help with vibrations.Mirrors always loosen on new bikes so pays to check them.The Enfield Precision mufflers you want have a clamp that covers the join where they connect,on Hitchcocks website on the slip on page at bottom it says related parts & has a link to clamp.
Hitchcocks is amazing business & should be the go to shop for R.E.
It is truly a great bike once these small issues sorted & value for money is great.
Hi thank you for your comment.
I didn’t know Hitchcocks is only about 19 miles away from where I live going to pop over tomorrow Monday and get the stuff I need 🙏🙏🙏👍👍
@@SOLOMOTOUK I'm from NZ 🇳🇿 & could spend all day at Hitchcocks looking around & know a R.E group from NZ went there on a holiday a year or so ago.
@@ruahinesrider I’m lucky they more or less by me 🙏🙏👍
@@SOLOMOTOUK This link is really great & HE has had exactly same problems as you & explains it very well & shows it step by step.
I have had about 8 moles cold burnt off & about 8 removed but luckily they were ok.
@@ruahinesrider hi Ruahines rider still got a big one behind my left ear they have removed twice and goes back this hopefully this time it stays away for good thank you 🙏 👍👍I cannot see the link 👍
Hi I own a Royal Enfield dealership here in India since the last 30 years.
We can help you with parts, accesories as well as maintainance consulting to name a few.
Hi thank I’ll keep for future reference thank you 🙏🙏🙏🙏all subscribed to you 👍👍
Where is your dealership? I'll visit next time I'm in India.
@@slimturnpike Drayton Croft Motorcyles head Stockwell Hinckley here in the Uk 👍
@@SOLOMOTOUK Sorry I meant to reply to Aditya Gupta above.
@@slimturnpike okay 👍
AEW. 201's from Raju Lax are low level cans. I have done 6k miles and no issues. A lot better price.
Hi thank you I’ll have a look at them 👍👍🙏
Thank you Derek for some brilliant videos on the RE Interceptor 650. I look forward to seeing many more!
My intention is to order the Canyon Red version for March next year.
This is obviously a common problem with the relays fitted to the bike as you will see on this link- ruclips.net/video/oEQR1h1d2Mo/видео.html
I couldn't believe the cheek of the supplying dealership wanting to charge you £78 for an inspection.
I'm confident that this will be resolved to your satisfaction.
Best of luck,
Mark
Hi mark thank you once they sort it on Thursday I’m still buying the Hitchcocks relays a good few people on here have told me to buy them much much better then the ones royal Enfield fit I’ll have a look a the link thank you wish you well when you get your bike 👍👍👍🙏
Hi yes I’ve seen his videos about fixed it himself done well there thank you again 👍👍🙏
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Naming a piece of metal omg no
Oh yes Vicky and Arthur 😂😂😂👍
My interceptor is Trigger