I think that Longbow and Wand is also a quite popular and effective pairing that wasn’t mentioned.Both weapons have healing capabilities, it is very viable for a group focused healer build
For anybody starting the game tommorow keep in mind that it may seem like you can just swap your weapon combo at any time but you really can’t so make sure you choose something you like
I spent an extensive amount of time researching before launch of what I might like, and then trying on the training dummy's pretty much every combination I would be even remotely interested in And i ended on being a degenerate off meta dagger/wand healer because damnit I want to DoT curse poison in between heals
@@BDO_Creations Thank you, I'm glad you liked it! I just want people to really enjoy playing their class without worrying about efficiency and the only one who can make that happen is you!
finally one video , that explain the gameplay without "forcing" player to follow build , tiers list , or that crappy , you need to pick this for pvp , pve , .. thanks its become rare to see contents creators when it come to guilde , to explain the most important : play and pick as you want , n'joy the game . build ,meta can easaly breaks because : - guild will make new strategy game plan ( pve , pvp ) - dev make fix / balance update , new contents
You are never forced to do anything. But then don't be surprised that people don't want you in your party. You are free to do whatever you want, but everything has consequences.
@@grabeck666 yes , when you won't toxicity , you'll just find people that want to n'joy the same as you , even they're casu , hardcore game , focus pve , pvp :) . playing mmo since Star wars galaxy era , like always on mmo , if player let him "force " guided , force play on a way , this is allways be bad on guild , groups , community .. as i myself , i can a be a push over when in come pvp stuff , i keep refrain myself , learn to be "moderate" and not be a griefer for other people playing the game :) .. and yes it can fustrated when you get wipe 2/3 time on dungeon , or pvp but if nobody take time to learn to play on other way , and just not follow some meta strategy , meta build , may be there'll be less issues to "find" a group . strategy =/= effenciency or scoring boards
@@zzzdartfrogzzz It has nothing to do with toxicity. Its all about choice. Your choice is to play whatever you want. People's choice is to not spend their valuable time on things they feel won't work. WHat people think will work is a different matter, but definitely not a matter of toxicity.
@@Darksoul3224 nope there's plenty of people in every game that aren't sweaty dorks following guides and also like to have fun with builds and seeing how well they can do
Dude you're hilarious, have my sub. For the record I'm on the fence with the game but I've been watching a lot of videos today in anticipation of probably trying it out this weekend when I get some free time. You're approach is solid and earned my sub.
pretty good video , very detailed and what i also liked was the backround music very relaxing but still the focus is on ur voice , hope u will get more views later on with the launch of global release. Ready to grind !
I'm tempted to do Dagger/Wand. I either enjoy being a helpful support who helps my allies have a good time (my main preference is support in all games like this), or a thieving rogue that uses stealth and high damage (I really enjoy stealth based games, and have played similar playstyles in multiplayer games) Not sure how much that would clash yet. My game's still downloading, but I'm excited to try this out
Never played this game, been watching a lot of videos about it for some time. Bought and download mine yesterday in the best version. Im very exicted about it. Thinking about long bow/gs. Been watching a lot of builds video. Im going to combine them all and come up with some good build.
Very useful video. T&L is one of those games where you can't just change your weapon later in the game and expect to not be weak. Early weapons choice is crucial in this game if you don't want to fuck up your build. I'm thinking Xbow + Wand will be interesting playstyle.
thats would not be a tank by any means, just a bruiser with mediocre dps (since it doesnt have support of a second dps weapon ) and some heals ( for some wierd reason ). you can do it if thats your thing, but in terms of actual performance, that would be griefing / trolling
@@Tehasce I'm guessing your talking about by about pvp. I'm most concerned about pve & from what I've heard most everything is viable in pve. For the record, I went sns/wand.
I was on the right track of this. I didn't know about the fireball barrage so I focused on the lightning. I can easily go back and get those skills up to blue at least. I'm fixing to hit level 50 and need to get better gear for sure. I am loving the build I have so far thou. it has worked well for me but I do like how you can be away from your opponent and deal lots of damage. I have a good rotation right now with my setup. Thanks for this guide though, I saved this video so I can get more in depth with it.
This did help a lot. I wills tart Greatsword Dagger and then add SnS and then Wand and then bow to have popular and useful play styles as I level up. I like to play various styles so I know just one set wont be good enough over the long haul
What does he mean "no penalty" from using any weapons ? If u use Shield as secondary you don't get any bonus. Same goes to Dagger and Crossbow. If you use them as primary weapons u don't get the Off Hand Bonus.
Always choose weapons and skills that sources your playstyle not what is meta or if thawed are classes choose the one that is most fun to play of you choose to play what game is telling you to play you will regret it very quickly
Nice video, but I don't see any clash between GS and staff, for instance. In other MMOs, I usually combine melee weapons with ranged because it sucks not to be able to have range or close combat option
Sword n shield with a staff i think would be interesting followed by SS n Greatsword. The fact SS doesn't have enough health regen is the big bummer for me.
I'm looking at longbow-staff or longbow-great sword. I'm leaning to LB-GS because often things keep flying in on you and you can't maintain distance so I would like a melee weapon to deal with the situation when that happens.
Also this is a new game. Buffs, nerfs and changes to weapon abilities can completely change the meta overnight. And from what I hear, changing isn't easy. So don't get caught in the min-maxing and find yourself with your pants down from a later update.
This was an interesting and helpful video for sure! For me, I think it's just the shock of the game having a "fluid class" system (especially coming from FF14) where I can theoretically switch between any two weapon combinations at will, but the only thing I keep hearing is how that choice is super critical in the beginning since leveling up the weapons and skills is extremely costly, both in mats and in time. Since the game apparently gives you one of each grey weapons at the start, would it theoretically make sense to test out potential combos to see what gels, and just not level those weapons up?
@@itsmorphinetime Yup! I recommend coming up with 1-3 combinations that look the most fun to you and trying them ott before you settle on one. There's 21 combinations total, and expecting you or any player to try them all out is dumb because people will just get bored of trying classes and quit - I know I would! So just pick 3 that look the most **fun** and as long as you settle on the one that is the MOST fun, you'll have a great time.
I tried longbow staff but it felt boring. Perhaps I decided to early, but I swapped out the staff to greatsword. The game instantly felt much more fun. Is it the best for dps in a dungeon? Probably not. But I prefer fun before meta 😊
Excellent Video! One Q: Is the armor type tied to the weapon? For example, Tanks traditionally wear plate, but if your pairing with dagger, will it sacrifice your mobility? There are many other examples of this, but in short, what (if any) part does armor play into this?
Sort of! Difference pieces of armor will give you different stats. For example, one set of legs might give you dexterity while another gives you intelligence. Beyond that, you're free to wear whatever you'd like!
I really wanna enjoy the combat but i feel so overwhelmed by it, too many buttons from 1 to 0 and - = while in tab targeting you usually use the mouse to use spells, like i did in most classic mmos, this games combat is much more fast paced and i stumble over what button to press for my next ability. I ended up trying action combat and edited my keys to q,e,r,t,g,1,2,3,4,5,x,c. But still find it so fast paced for me to keep track of 12 abilities. Not sure if i got old or what but it just feels weird combating in this game. Have also turned on move to target and stuff to make it easier, still experimenting with toggle charged etc
I literally only want to do PVE and Solo or maybe hook up with a couple of friends. I don't want to mess with the guild or anything like that I've been there and done that.
Me aswell, il try the free version and if it pushes heavy into grouped activities il see myself out. Played too many games like that which forget that portion of the player base that would appreciate a solo dungeon or 2 at end game. By all means have the big grouped dungeons but would a few solo dungeons really be that difficult to create?
@@sirbobernik it’s both. Pve and pvp. They should learn from other ppls mistakes and cater to both otherwise mass exodus when ppl figure out the game is 1 dimensional. If it’s group play or bust il be gone. Not asking for any sympathy etc but just a heads up to the devs if there is not small group or solo activities il be out.
I really want to play SnS + Wand, but, after looking the meta and everything, SnS + GS would should give me a nicer time finding a guild and groups, is fine, those 3 weapons are really appealing to me, but SnS + Wand just looks amazing
@@GpkmBJ You shouldn't have too much toruble finding guilds with SnS+Wand since it's the best tank build there is. SnS+GS is fun too though and it'll definitely be better if you're solo grinding. You can always build all three of SnS, Wand and GS and swap between them when you need to too!
@@ketsandhisgames wouldn't the stats of the SnS + GS and SnS + Wand clash to each other?, like, for what I seen, you have to build your gear and stats following your weapon combination, and some people just find a second set of gear to use another weapon, the game looks nice and complex, i just want to tank man
@@GpkmBJ To have the maximum efficiency, yeah, you'll have to have a few different pieces of armor. Buuut, that's only if you really care about maximum efficiency. I'd much rather just make a set that works well enough and play what I find fun! Don't let that discourage you though, nothing wrong with wanting to have the best stats, though yeah, you'll have to make two sets for the two combinations then.
"dagger" , "very mobile" , "dashing around enemies" first of all, dagger doesn't have a "dash" (the sword dance is repeated blinks) actives : 1. "shadow strike/shadow escape" > 10ish sec cooldown yes it's a 12m range teleport directly to your target which grants you great sticking power and a small window of escape with the return perk but mobile to me means freedom of movement, which this hardly qualifies for in my case~ 2. ??? (dont you dare include the petty 3m range "sword dance") the stealth active doesn't really give mobility in itself either~ passives : 5% movement speed increase from weapon mastery "assassin's step" on kill = 37% movement speed increase at level 15 passive (i'll grant you that the on kill passive does merit a good deal of speed) though you could just morph if you wanted passive movement speed ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ from most to least mobile : greatsword - crossbow - staff - dagger - sword - longbow(over sword if you can parry all day) - wand
hmmm....i like to play hybrid magic+melee or if not possible pure magic classes in rpg games. GS looks interesting not sure what would be best combination for this. I guess i will try staff + wand first
@@ketsandhisgames For example: Shaman/Paladin from WOW, Magus from Pathfinder and so on. Shield + Wand is closer to the Paladin from the looks of it but i am not sure if i want to be tank/healer in this game
@@lorgren4002 SnS/Wand is definitely closest to the Paladin. For Shaman, I'd say the Wand/Staff is closest to it. The Magus is a bit tougher. The closest seems like GS/Staff, which can definitely be fun but it can also be a bit challenging to use.
Any information on Staff + Sword/shield or Staff + Xbow? I never go magic user so I want to try either a more durable caster than can survive being caught or a quick agile caster
Staff + SnS isn't that great imo, just because it clashes in purpose a lot. SnS focuses on being in the middle of fights and taking hits, while Staff is the literal opposite. Staff + XBow is actually a great combo for very mobile DPS! There aren't a lot of clashes here which makes it work. :)
@@ketsandhisgames nice, I was watching some greatsword/staff gameplay too and that looks pretty fun and hard hitting as well. May still do xbow/staff though
so is the passive skills you choose always active or do you have to switch weapons to keep dem active? I apologize if you explained that already i am writing this as i listen to video
The passives for each weapon are always active as long as you have the weapon equipped, so you get the passives you select from both at all times! And never apologize for asking, even if I've explained it in the video - that's what comments are for and I'm happy to help. :))
The passive _SKILLS_ are always active; the mastery effects that you select once you get to 50 and start getting weapon mastery levels, are only active while using that particular weapon, including when you auto-switch weapons for attacks with your backup weapon, it will switch to the backup weapon's mastery for the length of that attack.
I have always played tank and i love it but i was thinking great sword for dps and wand but i want to be invited to groups please help im uber confused lol
@@plumppickle4u108 If you love being a tank then SnS/Wand will be right up your alley! There's always demand for good tanks too so don't worry about that
Haha true! That's the magic of the method - there's way more combinations than the 9 popular ones I suggested at the end, it's all about mixing two style you find fun!
Thinking of jumping into this game, and this video was just what I was looking for, tired of all the "YOU MUST PICK THIS CLASS/WEAPON COMBO" guide videos... ofc understandable when it comes to mmorpg. and especially here when respecing isn't that easy to do or so I heard. it seems to take some time of hoarding some skill transfer books or such or well spend real life money which is a big no for me. Wonder how bad it really is, seems at least if you have enough of those books they give to players now and then, you can respec to another weapon and just transfer the lvl lets say from bow to greatsword and you good.
I'm glad the video helped! Tbh, the skill books aren't really an issue, it's just that different combinations need different traits on gear, and it's quite difficult and takes a long time to get the right traits you need/want. Swapping to a new combination means having to do that grind again so it tends to be a big step backwards.
@@SynnJynn You can but it's not that great because there's a good amount of chanelling involved. Kiting with Staff works more like stand still and attack -> move -> stand still and attack -> move rather than moving and attacking at the same time.
I think it should work as the same as on PC. You can go to your character screen where you add stats like Dex and there, you can switch out weapons for other weapons. You'll need to have a new weapon to switch to in your inventory though!
@@MsSamanthaIreland Sort of. Most of the time, you'll be crafting them yourself. That's why I recommend using this method to find 1-3 combinations you'll enjoy the most, instead of trying out all 21 possible combinations cus that would make anyone quit!
There's really no such thing as a primary or secondary weapon. Any of the combinations that uses Dagger as a "secondary" pretty much works just as well with Dagger as a "primary"! Staff/Dagger = Dagger/Staff, etc.
@@mugiwara2697 It clashes a bit in purpose because the mobility of the crossbow is at odds with wanting to stand still and take hits as the tank, but don't let that discourage you! If those playstyles seem fun, give it a go - you might discover something noone else has thought of.
@@mugiwara2697 Yep, you could be a tanky DPS but to me, I think about it like this: you either tank hits or you dodge them. trying to do both usually clashes. That **said**, it sounds fun as hell I won't lie!
Heyy, which combination are you using as background footage for this? It looks like LB + Staff but I'm not too sure, but whatever is going on in the background is what I'd love to do haha, looks very fluid with a few casts inbetween and from range
The wand works quite well with most weapons, actually, as does the Dagger. At the end of the day, gaining the ability to self-buff and heal (Wand) or mobility (Dagger) isn't bad! The only thing is that it can clash a bit but really, you can definitely make it work super well if you enjoy it and find it fun!
Hello, I like the idea of selecting the weapons for what they do and what I like. However, western players are often very picky when it comes to recruitment in guilds or pug groups. Since the game puts high pressure on players, it seems very important to join a big enough guild so that you can progress as much as possible, especially in free 2 play. And that's where the struggle begins. I play with a friend who plays almost healer only if I want to play tank as sns+wand it seems like we shouldn't pve together. Same type of issue, if i chose sns+dagger, guilds will only see it as a tank who doesn't have the GS buff to give to his mates. Support and tank roles are very restricted, I don't want to play sns+GS.
@@TheScudik Unfortunately that's the nature of MMOs these days. I actually kind of hate it. Instead of guilds being a place for like-minded people to have fun together, it's become almost esports-like with the priority being min-maxing. That's why I didn't want to include a tier list in this video, because I wanna be at least a (very) small part of bringing joy back to MMOs instead of pure numbers and efficiency. Thankfully though, there are always a few guilds here and there that are chill in every MMO, so I hope that you'll be able to join on of them!
I think that Longbow and Wand is also a quite popular and effective pairing that wasn’t mentioned.Both weapons have healing capabilities, it is very viable for a group focused healer build
Longbow/Wand is S tier support best in game
@@_ghosted You're right! I for sure did miss that one so I'll pin your comment for everyone to see. :)
What about wand/great sword? You can always heal
i was going to ask if it's viable option thnx.
So was wondering is the longsword + wand any good?
@@lonniehursey4048 that`s just trolling / griefing
For anybody starting the game tommorow keep in mind that it may seem like you can just swap your weapon combo at any time but you really can’t so make sure you choose something you like
I spent an extensive amount of time researching before launch of what I might like, and then trying on the training dummy's pretty much every combination I would be even remotely interested in
And i ended on being a degenerate off meta dagger/wand healer because damnit I want to DoT curse poison in between heals
Was struggling a week or so to find a main weapon set to play. Found your video, *BAM*, 10 mins in ready for GS+SnS. Thank you so much!
@@aresonantsoul6668 I'm glad Zi could help! That's a super fun combination, enjoy the game!!
Gandalf: Staff and Sword
Legolas: Dagger and Longbow
Aragorn: Sword and Longbow
Uh, no. Not all of us ride the LOTR dick, thanks.
Yeah except I can’t find anyone who has a video of greatsword longbow being viable. Kinda sucks because I want to play that but everyone says it’s bad
@@SFRR22D Any combination is viable, it won't be meta but it will still be viable. Did you watch the video?
Telling me that I can figure it out myself, earned you a sub.
@@BDO_Creations Thank you, I'm glad you liked it! I just want people to really enjoy playing their class without worrying about efficiency and the only one who can make that happen is you!
Great approach to the problem, i've watched a few and this is very unique and thoughtful. You've earned a sub!
finally one video , that explain the gameplay without "forcing" player to follow build , tiers list , or that crappy , you need to pick this for pvp , pve , .. thanks
its become rare to see contents creators when it come to guilde , to explain the most important : play and pick as you want , n'joy the game .
build ,meta can easaly breaks because :
- guild will make new strategy game plan ( pve , pvp )
- dev make fix / balance update , new contents
You are never forced to do anything. But then don't be surprised that people don't want you in your party. You are free to do whatever you want, but everything has consequences.
@@grabeck666 yes , when you won't toxicity , you'll just find people that want to n'joy the same as you , even they're casu , hardcore game , focus pve , pvp :) . playing mmo since Star wars galaxy era , like always on mmo , if player let him "force " guided , force play on a way , this is allways be bad on guild , groups , community ..
as i myself , i can a be a push over when in come pvp stuff , i keep refrain myself , learn to be "moderate" and not be a griefer for other people playing the game :) .. and yes it can fustrated when you get wipe 2/3 time on dungeon , or pvp but if nobody take time to learn to play on other way , and just not follow some meta strategy , meta build , may be there'll be less issues to "find" a group .
strategy =/= effenciency or scoring boards
@@zzzdartfrogzzz It has nothing to do with toxicity.
Its all about choice. Your choice is to play whatever you want.
People's choice is to not spend their valuable time on things they feel won't work.
WHat people think will work is a different matter, but definitely not a matter of toxicity.
this is my biggest complaint with this style of system, it seems like its so customizable but it really isn't....
2-3 meta combinations and that is it
It's very customizable for people who aren't robots that refuse to play anything that isn't considered the meta
@@MunKDaDDyy ye and not playing meta has its own problems, like no one wanting to group up with you.
Its not if you are not a whale
@@Darksoul3224 nope there's plenty of people in every game that aren't sweaty dorks following guides and also like to have fun with builds and seeing how well they can do
Dude you're hilarious, have my sub.
For the record I'm on the fence with the game but I've been watching a lot of videos today in anticipation of probably trying it out this weekend when I get some free time. You're approach is solid and earned my sub.
pretty good video , very detailed and what i also liked was the backround music very relaxing but still the focus is on ur voice , hope u will get more views later on with the launch of global release. Ready to grind !
Thank you, let's get it!
I'm tempted to do Dagger/Wand.
I either enjoy being a helpful support who helps my allies have a good time (my main preference is support in all games like this), or a thieving rogue that uses stealth and high damage (I really enjoy stealth based games, and have played similar playstyles in multiplayer games)
Not sure how much that would clash yet. My game's still downloading, but I'm excited to try this out
Never played this game, been watching a lot of videos about it for some time. Bought and download mine yesterday in the best version. Im very exicted about it. Thinking about long bow/gs. Been watching a lot of builds video. Im going to combine them all and come up with some good build.
"Becuz I have a secert crush on you." That got my attention!
Great video, subbed and liked. Probably going full wizard thanks to you.
Very useful video. T&L is one of those games where you can't just change your weapon later in the game and expect to not be weak. Early weapons choice is crucial in this game if you don't want to fuck up your build. I'm thinking Xbow + Wand will be interesting playstyle.
Love your approach here
Thank you for the good guide. I was already thinking about using a shield and wand.
Cute video. It actually changed my mind a bit.
Thinking of going
GS/wand. A little more offensive tank with heals.
Im using SnS/Wand for a Paladin (Tank/Heal) build lol
I was thinking the same thing! I'm a little afraid it'd end up being really bad tho
thats would not be a tank by any means, just a bruiser with mediocre dps (since it doesnt have support of a second dps weapon ) and some heals ( for some wierd reason ). you can do it if thats your thing, but in terms of actual performance, that would be griefing / trolling
@@Tehasce I'm guessing your talking about by about pvp. I'm most concerned about pve & from what I've heard most everything is viable in pve. For the record, I went sns/wand.
Paladin all the way!!! Ive been a pally since Cecil of FF4 :D
I was on the right track of this. I didn't know about the fireball barrage so I focused on the lightning. I can easily go back and get those skills up to blue at least. I'm fixing to hit level 50 and need to get better gear for sure. I am loving the build I have so far thou. it has worked well for me but I do like how you can be away from your opponent and deal lots of damage. I have a good rotation right now with my setup. Thanks for this guide though, I saved this video so I can get more in depth with it.
This did help a lot. I wills tart Greatsword Dagger and then add SnS and then Wand and then bow to have popular and useful play styles as I level up. I like to play various styles so I know just one set wont be good enough over the long haul
I was sold on trying staff and wand but staff and dagger kind of sounds appealing as well…
Legend just the video I needed
I'm glad it helped!
Goto Guide Great job and editing
I will get Greatsword and Crossbow because i like Guts(Berserk) fighting style
Same bro. It's fking sick I love it lol
Nice video, eventually settled on GS/dagger but might also lvl a sns too to pair with GS at some point.
Shiled and Wand sounds awesome but I worry about low DPS
Except for one aoe nuke used in PvP, consistent DPS is almost nonexistant. Its unkillable tho.
this was very helpful.
I subscribed
What does he mean "no penalty" from using any weapons ? If u use Shield as secondary you don't get any bonus. Same goes to Dagger and Crossbow. If you use them as primary weapons u don't get the Off Hand Bonus.
Always choose weapons and skills that sources your playstyle not what is meta or if thawed are classes choose the one that is most fun to play of you choose to play what game is telling you to play you will regret it very quickly
That was a great video, thanks!
I'm starting tomorrow, great vid, like+ sub brother.
after 10min i know what i play,,ty for video
Nice video, but I don't see any clash between GS and staff, for instance. In other MMOs, I usually combine melee weapons with ranged because it sucks not to be able to have range or close combat option
Thats very helpful
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The only melee I’m interested in is dagger but I don’t usually like DOTs so I’m thinking about Crossbow/Staff or Crossbow/Wand
Thank you.
Sword n shield with a staff i think would be interesting followed by SS n Greatsword.
The fact SS doesn't have enough health regen is the big bummer for me.
I'm looking at longbow-staff or longbow-great sword. I'm leaning to LB-GS because often things keep flying in on you and you can't maintain distance so I would like a melee weapon to deal with the situation when that happens.
Bro playing as the pharmacist woman
sns with greatsword is so cool
What about great sword and wand? Wand has some aoe debuff and great sword has aoe damage. On top of that, wand heals while great sword has sustain.
Also this is a new game. Buffs, nerfs and changes to weapon abilities can completely change the meta overnight. And from what I hear, changing isn't easy. So don't get caught in the min-maxing and find yourself with your pants down from a later update.
This was an interesting and helpful video for sure! For me, I think it's just the shock of the game having a "fluid class" system (especially coming from FF14) where I can theoretically switch between any two weapon combinations at will, but the only thing I keep hearing is how that choice is super critical in the beginning since leveling up the weapons and skills is extremely costly, both in mats and in time. Since the game apparently gives you one of each grey weapons at the start, would it theoretically make sense to test out potential combos to see what gels, and just not level those weapons up?
@@itsmorphinetime Yup! I recommend coming up with 1-3 combinations that look the most fun to you and trying them ott before you settle on one.
There's 21 combinations total, and expecting you or any player to try them all out is dumb because people will just get bored of trying classes and quit - I know I would! So just pick 3 that look the most **fun** and as long as you settle on the one that is the MOST fun, you'll have a great time.
What if I want warlock style with wand? Not for support.
Staff/Wand works as a self-sustaining DPS too!
@@ketsandhisgames I meant DPS with wand. So I'd go wand/dagger (for the inv too).
I tried longbow staff but it felt boring. Perhaps I decided to early, but I swapped out the staff to greatsword. The game instantly felt much more fun. Is it the best for dps in a dungeon? Probably not. But I prefer fun before meta 😊
I will go Bow/dagger because its a lot of fun and strong at same time, will decide Xbow or Staff as third wespon xD
I'm stuck between sword&shield/Greatsword or crossbow/dagger very different style of play. Hard choices
Personally I would play sword and shield/wand for extreme tanker
Been thinking of either full magic (staff/wand for that anime meme), dagger/longbow or somewhere in-between those 2 sets.
I'm also stuck between same builds XD what at did you choose I'll do the same ::)
@@boratepe5620 I decided staff/wand
@@boratepe5620 I decided on crossbow/dagger so if i want to change later I can go dagger/GS then long them gs into s&s if I want a playstyle change
Excellent Video! One Q: Is the armor type tied to the weapon? For example, Tanks traditionally wear plate, but if your pairing with dagger, will it sacrifice your mobility? There are many other examples of this, but in short, what (if any) part does armor play into this?
Sort of! Difference pieces of armor will give you different stats. For example, one set of legs might give you dexterity while another gives you intelligence. Beyond that, you're free to wear whatever you'd like!
@@ketsandhisgames can’t wait to play it! Ty!!
Very good video bro.
I really wanna enjoy the combat but i feel so overwhelmed by it, too many buttons from 1 to 0 and - = while in tab targeting you usually use the mouse to use spells, like i did in most classic mmos, this games combat is much more fast paced and i stumble over what button to press for my next ability. I ended up trying action combat and edited my keys to q,e,r,t,g,1,2,3,4,5,x,c. But still find it so fast paced for me to keep track of 12 abilities.
Not sure if i got old or what but it just feels weird combating in this game. Have also turned on move to target and stuff to make it easier, still experimenting with toggle charged etc
Im stuck between GS+SS or SS+wand for tanking - I do a fair of solo play
I'm surprised there was no Bow and Wand?
I literally only want to do PVE and Solo or maybe hook up with a couple of friends. I don't want to mess with the guild or anything like that I've been there and done that.
Go bow staff or staff dagger
this game not for you
Me aswell, il try the free version and if it pushes heavy into grouped activities il see myself out. Played too many games like that which forget that portion of the player base that would appreciate a solo dungeon or 2 at end game. By all means have the big grouped dungeons but would a few solo dungeons really be that difficult to create?
This isn't a pve game what is wrong with you ppl
@@sirbobernik it’s both. Pve and pvp. They should learn from other ppls mistakes and cater to both otherwise mass exodus when ppl figure out the game is 1 dimensional. If it’s group play or bust il be gone. Not asking for any sympathy etc but just a heads up to the devs if there is not small group or solo activities il be out.
As sns/wand can i heal if my guild needs a healer for dungeons and stuff, all i ever hear is how good it tanks
No dark magic cuz i like healing and dark magic combo
I’m curious how the skill specializations might affect some combos and/or open up new ones that hadn’t previously been as viable.
I really want to play SnS + Wand, but, after looking the meta and everything, SnS + GS would should give me a nicer time finding a guild and groups, is fine, those 3 weapons are really appealing to me, but SnS + Wand just looks amazing
@@GpkmBJ You shouldn't have too much toruble finding guilds with SnS+Wand since it's the best tank build there is. SnS+GS is fun too though and it'll definitely be better if you're solo grinding. You can always build all three of SnS, Wand and GS and swap between them when you need to too!
@@ketsandhisgames wouldn't the stats of the SnS + GS and SnS + Wand clash to each other?, like, for what I seen, you have to build your gear and stats following your weapon combination, and some people just find a second set of gear to use another weapon, the game looks nice and complex, i just want to tank man
@@GpkmBJ To have the maximum efficiency, yeah, you'll have to have a few different pieces of armor. Buuut, that's only if you really care about maximum efficiency. I'd much rather just make a set that works well enough and play what I find fun!
Don't let that discourage you though, nothing wrong with wanting to have the best stats, though yeah, you'll have to make two sets for the two combinations then.
"dagger" , "very mobile" , "dashing around enemies"
first of all, dagger doesn't have a "dash" (the sword dance is repeated blinks)
actives :
1. "shadow strike/shadow escape" > 10ish sec cooldown
yes it's a 12m range teleport directly to your target which grants you great sticking power and a small window of escape with the return perk
but mobile to me means freedom of movement, which this hardly qualifies for in my case~
2. ??? (dont you dare include the petty 3m range "sword dance")
the stealth active doesn't really give mobility in itself either~
passives :
5% movement speed increase from weapon mastery
"assassin's step" on kill = 37% movement speed increase at level 15 passive
(i'll grant you that the on kill passive does merit a good deal of speed)
though you could just morph if you wanted passive movement speed ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
from most to least mobile : greatsword - crossbow - staff - dagger - sword - longbow(over sword if you can parry all day) - wand
me: "ah.. this might help me decide if i want to use sword/gs or gs/dagger"
me after: "Ah. it didnt.."
hmmm....i like to play hybrid magic+melee or if not possible pure magic classes in rpg games. GS looks interesting not sure what would be best combination for this. I guess i will try staff + wand first
@@lorgren4002 Hmm, what magic-melee classes from other MMOs do you like playing?
@@ketsandhisgames For example: Shaman/Paladin from WOW, Magus from Pathfinder and so on. Shield + Wand is closer to the Paladin from the looks of it but i am not sure if i want to be tank/healer in this game
@@lorgren4002 SnS/Wand is definitely closest to the Paladin. For Shaman, I'd say the Wand/Staff is closest to it. The Magus is a bit tougher. The closest seems like GS/Staff, which can definitely be fun but it can also be a bit challenging to use.
Good Video +1 Sub. Keep it up.
Thank you, I'm glad you liked it!
I need a website with this videos layout lmao.
. . .zero mention in this video for how support players make their pairings... or of what is good? Not judging 😅 just... I kind of want my time back.❤
Hi, player!
Here’s freedom for you!
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i used bow/gs in beta it was pretty fun
Those popular pairings are missing a big one. Longbow+wand is the best healer/support in the game and you didnt even mention it...
Why tf would i want 2 playstyles??
Any information on Staff + Sword/shield or Staff + Xbow? I never go magic user so I want to try either a more durable caster than can survive being caught or a quick agile caster
Staff + SnS isn't that great imo, just because it clashes in purpose a lot. SnS focuses on being in the middle of fights and taking hits, while Staff is the literal opposite.
Staff + XBow is actually a great combo for very mobile DPS! There aren't a lot of clashes here which makes it work. :)
@@ketsandhisgames nice, I was watching some greatsword/staff gameplay too and that looks pretty fun and hard hitting as well. May still do xbow/staff though
so is the passive skills you choose always active or do you have to switch weapons to keep dem active? I apologize if you explained that already i am writing this as i listen to video
The passives for each weapon are always active as long as you have the weapon equipped, so you get the passives you select from both at all times!
And never apologize for asking, even if I've explained it in the video - that's what comments are for and I'm happy to help. :))
@@ketsandhisgames Thank you this is very helpful
The passive _SKILLS_ are always active; the mastery effects that you select once you get to 50 and start getting weapon mastery levels, are only active while using that particular weapon, including when you auto-switch weapons for attacks with your backup weapon, it will switch to the backup weapon's mastery for the length of that attack.
I have always played tank and i love it but i was thinking great sword for dps and wand but i want to be invited to groups please help im uber confused lol
@@plumppickle4u108 If you love being a tank then SnS/Wand will be right up your alley! There's always demand for good tanks too so don't worry about that
ill probabaly go with greatsword crossbow or bow crossbow
Ooh GS + Xbow is such an interesting choice!
@@riasgremory5943 i was thinking the same thing aswell !
A Berserk fan too?
Dagger Wand it is.
is crossbow + Wand a decent pairing? was curious on how it would pair.
It's pretty good as a support DPS but more so than that, it can be really nice for self-sustain, since you can heal yourself if you get hit.
How about sword and shield+ wand
That’s a paladin build
@@clayk4753More a Templar build. Paladin build is Greatsword + Wand.
I really want to play shield and bow 😢but don’t know how to build it
😂start with 3 or more arms.
Where Wand/Bow :))
Haha true! That's the magic of the method - there's way more combinations than the 9 popular ones I suggested at the end, it's all about mixing two style you find fun!
Is it possible to effectively do 2 sets a set of plate and set of leather
And a set of ss/wand
And a set of dagger/greatsword
Absolutely you can! Lots of people like to have a set for PvE and a set for PvP, for example.
@@ketsandhisgames thanks that puts my archeage worries to bed
Thinking of jumping into this game, and this video was just what I was looking for, tired of all the "YOU MUST PICK THIS CLASS/WEAPON COMBO" guide videos...
ofc understandable when it comes to mmorpg. and especially here when respecing isn't that easy to do or so I heard.
it seems to take some time of hoarding some skill transfer books or such or well spend real life money which is a big no for me.
Wonder how bad it really is, seems at least if you have enough of those books they give to players now and then, you can respec to another weapon and just transfer the lvl lets say from bow to greatsword and you good.
I'm glad the video helped!
Tbh, the skill books aren't really an issue, it's just that different combinations need different traits on gear, and it's quite difficult and takes a long time to get the right traits you need/want. Swapping to a new combination means having to do that grind again so it tends to be a big step backwards.
Well after watching this it looks like my choices dont work together at all...... yay
Do all weapons have aoe versions of skills? Or gear sets that change skills? Seems lame to want to use a weapon, but it's only a single target dps..
So you can't kite with staff?
@@SynnJynn You can but it's not that great because there's a good amount of chanelling involved. Kiting with Staff works more like stand still and attack -> move -> stand still and attack -> move rather than moving and attacking at the same time.
im thinking about xbow + wand ? what u think about that?
That could definitely work! The wand would help keep you alive and you can provide minor support to your team while you do DPS.
Can someone help me please im playing this game on ps5. And i didnt change my weapons is there anyway i can change my weapons?
I think it should work as the same as on PC. You can go to your character screen where you add stats like Dex and there, you can switch out weapons for other weapons. You'll need to have a new weapon to switch to in your inventory though!
@@ketsandhisgames ah okay thank you I just find weapons during the game?
@@MsSamanthaIreland Sort of. Most of the time, you'll be crafting them yourself. That's why I recommend using this method to find 1-3 combinations you'll enjoy the most, instead of trying out all 21 possible combinations cus that would make anyone quit!
@@ketsandhisgames okay thank you so much
@@MsSamanthaIreland Tá fáilte romhat!
Nice }}
Is there really no viable dagger build? Is it always secondary?
dagger/wand using mostly dagger skill with support from wand , very effective in small scale pvp, 1v1
There's really no such thing as a primary or secondary weapon. Any of the combinations that uses Dagger as a "secondary" pretty much works just as well with Dagger as a "primary"! Staff/Dagger = Dagger/Staff, etc.
I'll prove everyone wrong when I pull up with my Staff and greatsword doing more dps than anyone!! I swear it! Just you watch!
what about crossbow and sword and shield ?
@@mugiwara2697 It clashes a bit in purpose because the mobility of the crossbow is at odds with wanting to stand still and take hits as the tank, but don't let that discourage you! If those playstyles seem fun, give it a go - you might discover something noone else has thought of.
@@ketsandhisgames thought about the fact that sword and shielf give a very good defense combined with the big dps and mobility of the xbow
@@mugiwara2697 Yep, you could be a tanky DPS but to me, I think about it like this: you either tank hits or you dodge them. trying to do both usually clashes.
That **said**, it sounds fun as hell I won't lie!
Heyy, which combination are you using as background footage for this? It looks like LB + Staff but I'm not too sure, but whatever is going on in the background is what I'd love to do haha, looks very fluid with a few casts inbetween and from range
@@TH3WTFLEGUAN Haha yep, that's Longbow+Staff!
I think im going sword shield + dagger.
my dude, was thinking the same!
Ah, it's sad that wand has so few combinations.
The wand works quite well with most weapons, actually, as does the Dagger. At the end of the day, gaining the ability to self-buff and heal (Wand) or mobility (Dagger) isn't bad! The only thing is that it can clash a bit but really, you can definitely make it work super well if you enjoy it and find it fun!
not even a mention of bow+wand wow...
@@keanesn.1513 You're right, and someone else pointed this out as well and I pinned their comment about this!
Chill your balls bro
Pls im poor and I love ure vids
Hello, I like the idea of selecting the weapons for what they do and what I like. However, western players are often very picky when it comes to recruitment in guilds or pug groups. Since the game puts high pressure on players, it seems very important to join a big enough guild so that you can progress as much as possible, especially in free 2 play. And that's where the struggle begins. I play with a friend who plays almost healer only if I want to play tank as sns+wand it seems like we shouldn't pve together. Same type of issue, if i chose sns+dagger, guilds will only see it as a tank who doesn't have the GS buff to give to his mates. Support and tank roles are very restricted, I don't want to play sns+GS.
@@TheScudik Unfortunately that's the nature of MMOs these days. I actually kind of hate it. Instead of guilds being a place for like-minded people to have fun together, it's become almost esports-like with the priority being min-maxing.
That's why I didn't want to include a tier list in this video, because I wanna be at least a (very) small part of bringing joy back to MMOs instead of pure numbers and efficiency.
Thankfully though, there are always a few guilds here and there that are chill in every MMO, so I hope that you'll be able to join on of them!
HIS games! rofl
Was interested in this game but the class system seems awful, I dont get the hype at all
Lol this game is absolute slop garbage
You presume that you know better than any of us which is horribly egotistical