it costs 42.000€ base spec with 40kWh battery. That's very expensive for everyday driving around town, when you can get other cars almost 10k cheaper with bigger battery.
@@ndc5544p Interesting. This is what they say in Canada "The expected Launch date of Renault Megane E-Tech in Canada is 2023, The price of Renault Megane E-Tech Electric will be $35,138 cnd expectedly, All the information on this page is unofficial."
You pretty much know when the car applies the hand brake. Most cars refuse to move after shut off. Edit: Also very dangerous, did you hear of the woman that got run over 3 times in Switzerland? She tried to stop her car from rolling away.
You are just Crazy :-) But you are testing the worst case and the maximum out of electric cars. Thanks. I think it was a good decision to order megane.
It would be great if you can do a Polestar 2 AWD "drive until battery dead" video. I think a large segment of your audience have a Polestar and we are very interested in see what happens.
Hi Bjorn, thank you for this. As all vidéo you did, you take risks for us, with humour and good explanation. Could you remain us witch external battery you use for ? Good continuation, bye bye 👋
Keeping shops closed on Sunday and closing early on Saturday is life quality and ressembles wealth. People should not have to work on sunday if they don't need to. And shopping is definitely something that is not needed 7 Days a week. If you need to go shopping on a sunday, you have bad managment.
@@alexandersaksvoll5373 Your freedom to shop on Sunday is weighed against the need of other people to serve you. Next time, are you going to complain that you are not allowed to shop at 3am in the middle of the night?
The 22kw on board charger doesn’t come as standard it comes in specific versions that cost 8000nok extra and the top spec version with 22kw is sold out in Norway it says.
it actually does come with 22kW as standard now. When they released it, they offered it with 7,4kW AC and no DC for 35.000€. Then they modified the line-up and now the base spec costs 42.000€ and has 22kW AC and 85kW DC charging capabilities. I don't know if the did other spec upgrades to it at the same time, but that's the current situation (in germany).
@@ndc5544p I was referring to how Megane E-techs are sold in Norway. Here 22kw is not standard. renault.no/admin/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Nye-Megane-E-Tech-electric-prisliste-10-2022v3.pdf
What is the app and the OBD that you use? The only thing it lacks on the megane is to show the charging speed and i like to see all that data in a phone!
Bjorn did you ever have any issues with the car not going into Drive or Reverse gear? I've had one now for 3 weeks, the Iconic+ and twice the P just flashes constantly when trying to put into gear.
Maby a noob question, but are you sure the cable can handle 22 kW? Not like you get a chance to test that every day. It just looked kind of thin to me.
Hi Björn.. just been diding into your spreadsheet. You test all ev’s milage as one person without load. Would you have an estimate on percentage range loss, if fully loaded 4 persons with full load of luggage?😮
Weight doesn’t change efficiency much unless your trip is strictly uphill or downhill. On level ground or rolling hills (where the overall elevation change is pretty small) the change in efficiency is minimal with just added weight.
Efficiency trade-offs in electric vehicles differ from those in conventional cars-the latter showing a strong dependency of fuel consumption on rated engine power. Mass-related efficiency trade-offs in electric vehicles are large and could be tapped by stimulating mode shift from passenger cars to light electric road vehicles. Electric passenger cars still offer potentials for further efficiency improvements. These could be exploited through a dedicated energy label with battery capacity as utility parameter.
To be honest, that's what I miss from our previous ICE car. a 5l can with Diesel which was good for 80+km in the trunk...... However, in all other aspects BEVs are better. We looked at the Megane and it was decent but then the trunk and even more the inner mirror via camera killed it and we went for something else. Now we have lousy software but more space and a better trunk design.
you can turn off the screen in the rear view mirror and it will be a standard mirror. I hated it too and turned it off promptly during the test drive. Though it's useful sometimes, to have a higher point of view while reversing. The rest of the time it's annoying af because the eyes have to constantly refocus on the screen and cannot maintain the same focus like on a mirror.
@bjorn why do you think left side is the right side? Always be off the Road. When parking in angle to Front : passenger side front panel is best option. Rear PS second best. And when you put 150wh in the battery only gets around 130 Something due to double losses of charger brick and internal car charger losses...
The charging port on left side is more convenient when parking in a small garage - you can park slightly to the right, leaving more space on left for getting out of/into the car. For on street charging the right side is better.
I have such a terrible experience with twingo ze that I would never even consider another Renault for the rest of my life.... In less than a year of ownership 4 months in service centar !
What is this you have in tel to left, i am intresting to now You are good testdriver i like you vidio have the best... sorry my englisch m i from Sweden like buy this car, its a good car?
@bjornnyland i know you don't care, and to be honest that is pretty much your brand 😊 but I really don't enjoy the click bait "this ev left me stranded" you have in the title cards of the 0 tests. it sends such a bad signal to non ev drivers, I don't watch these for that reason. But I have a megane, and I am very interested in knowing as much as possible about it
@@bjornnyland not true amico mio... In Italy every Sunday millions of husband are obliged to carry their wives at Ikea, waisting hours there that we can be passed watching the TV...
@@Sabanet I am fully with you! The 17 years we lived in the US we went shopping on Sundays and holidays. After returning to Germany these days can now be used for much better and more interesting things.
Exactly virtually everything has marketing lies. I already thought exactly what you said; it’s 11kw per side. “Gigabit” Ethernet is 500mbps in each direction. So only if you are simultaneously uploading and downloading can you get gigabit.
sorry but dafakk are you talking about? There is just one port on this car and in Björn's range test video you can see that it is taking 20,7kW. Everything ok with you?
the zoe and twingo also do this. You park it with a state of charge and in the morning you're in for a surprise. One time, I parked my zoe with 30% battery. Left it over night and in the morning: 20%. It's always like this. Sometimes even after a short time, like 2 hours, the battery will drop a few percentage points. The consumption is so low because the car calculates it based on how the SoC changes. The zoe takes forever to go from 100% to 99% SoC, in this case you will literally have 0.0kWh/100km consumption for about 10km. After a certain point it starts calculating correctly. I believe it's the same thing with 0%. You drive with 0% and technically, for the car, no energy has been spent since there is no change in SoC, you can't go below zero. What the BMS does is different from the gauge cluster so you'll end up with weird consumption from 100%-99% and from 0% to stop.
@@basedw it sometimes happens that you end up with more SoC. In my case it's 1-3% of the initial SoC. In summer it's sometimes zero, sometimes 1%, so it's more of a cold season issue.
Stranded on IKEA parking lot 10 meters from the charging station, but still charging from his own batteries carried in the trunk. All of this with 0.0% battery left but still parked perfectly in the parking slot. With warning triangle in the pointless position and hood open because reasons. This is the only channel in the world where such things can happen.
having maintained a fleet of Renault trucks the only bitd that don't go wrong are the VOLVO parts (engine gbox etc) What does go wrong are THE ELECTRICS!!! Why anyone would buy a french electric cars to me is MADNESS they are shit at it
Just like the ID.3 and Cupra Born, it is not a bad car, but way too expensive for its performance and range. It seems that the MG4 does the same for a significantly lower price.
@@Astrophysikus I see your point which I do agree: you are right, however as a second time ev-owner.. I went for the better infotainment in this one? Why? Because the last car never even gave me state of charge and caused me a mild case of range anxiety. Here: I can just say navigate to Berlin.. And it will lay out the route with where to stop to charge along the way. I have only had it for two weeks, but holy hell.. The infotainment part makes the EV experience so much better :)
@@Astrophysikusone of the reasons I chose this car was having android automotive. The other was the compact dimensions. I will miss the one pedal driving
I think your click bate pictures on these video's where you drive the car until the battery is dead, gives people, in general, less confidence in electrical cars, which is the total opposite of the long term goal.
A friendly advice before U gonna sign UR mass new purchase orders for this make. We'been working on Renaults un the past 3.5 decades. Electricity has ALLWAYS been a major issue with them. Notably, the eternal IT bugs in the latest models since 2016... Bjørn has just experienced some of them on this tip-top 100% EV "press version". Let me share an obvious secret: they never gonna fix it, and not because of the "frenchy" logic of all French automakers (as the Brits call it). Oh boy, no. No-no-no! Because of unit profitability vs. serious quality issues that might eventually trigger mass recalls. These IT(majorly hardware quality) issues aren't detrimental; thus, literally nobody gives a sh*t. Same issues with FIAT, FORD, VW, "cheap" luxury Grrmans etc... That's why Koreans&some Japanese, Spainyards, Czechs are more popular in those domestic markets. Even in Germany! Renault is extremely well prepared for comfort&outlook, longevity of woven/plastic materials etc...,but man: GOOD LUCK WITH IT AND with its MICRO ELECTRICITY! Particularly, after a small ("reparable") crash with such a hard and almost pure plastic make! It's not the fault of the repairshops; often they are really good and nice, but the product philosophy behind all. I would rather go for a Kia or Toyota if money and reliability are the principal drivers @ my acquisition. But, this is my hansolo opinion, after some years I spent with Renaults... nothing else. Enjoy very much this channel with Bjørn! Really fascinating, BIG THX4it;○}!
Seems like a contender for everyday driving around town. Good video! 🇨🇦
it costs 42.000€ base spec with 40kWh battery. That's very expensive for everyday driving around town, when you can get other cars almost 10k cheaper with bigger battery.
@@ndc5544p Interesting. This is what they say in Canada "The expected Launch date of Renault Megane E-Tech in Canada is 2023, The price of Renault Megane E-Tech Electric will be $35,138 cnd expectedly, All the information on this page is unofficial."
In my country its over 50 000 €...
I seriously think of getting horseriding lessons.
You should add one more quick test - whether the car will allow to be pushed to the charger in stuck state.
You pretty much know when the car applies the hand brake. Most cars refuse to move after shut off.
Edit: Also very dangerous, did you hear of the woman that got run over 3 times in Switzerland? She tried to stop her car from rolling away.
Awsome, Björn, thanks for your video...hug frome Sweden
Amazing how some legacy car makers are learning much faster than others.
Having the hood up is the universal signal for "I need help"
Or it means "I'm taking out my luggage".
Definitely safer and a pretty good parking job! Keep it up Tesla Bjørn.
Very good demonstration Bjorn on how the energy is depleted.
Loved this one too. Thanks for the video
The change port is in the right place - ideally for Tesla supercharger 😊
I personally like the front most.
how loud is the bicycle at 13:40 when you can hear it so far away 😂🚲
You are just Crazy :-)
But you are testing the worst case and the maximum out of electric cars. Thanks.
I think it was a good decision to order megane.
It would be great if you can do a Polestar 2 AWD "drive until battery dead" video. I think a large segment of your audience have a Polestar and we are very interested in see what happens.
Hi Bjorn, thank you for this. As all vidéo you did, you take risks for us, with humour and good explanation.
Could you remain us witch external battery you use for ?
Good continuation, bye bye 👋
No heat-Just only fans!😆👍
Funny, because the Megane TV ad featured horses 🤣
Hi Bjorn!
Sunday, and IKEA is closed? What a strange country... ;-) (in UK it's probably their busiest day)
Welcome to Europe.
@@bjornnyland it's perfectly open in Portugal 7 days a week, from 10am till 10pm
IKEA Sweden is open 10:00 - 19:00 Saturday and Sunday...
Keeping shops closed on Sunday and closing early on Saturday is life quality and ressembles wealth. People should not have to work on sunday if they don't need to.
And shopping is definitely something that is not needed 7 Days a week. If you need to go shopping on a sunday, you have bad managment.
@@alexandersaksvoll5373 Your freedom to shop on Sunday is weighed against the need of other people to serve you.
Next time, are you going to complain that you are not allowed to shop at 3am in the middle of the night?
You are the best!!!!
The 22kw on board charger doesn’t come as standard it comes in specific versions that cost 8000nok extra and the top spec version with 22kw is sold out in Norway it says.
it actually does come with 22kW as standard now. When they released it, they offered it with 7,4kW AC and no DC for 35.000€.
Then they modified the line-up and now the base spec costs 42.000€ and has 22kW AC and 85kW DC charging capabilities. I don't know if the did other spec upgrades to it at the same time, but that's the current situation (in germany).
@@ndc5544p I was referring to how Megane E-techs are sold in Norway. Here 22kw is not standard. renault.no/admin/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Nye-Megane-E-Tech-electric-prisliste-10-2022v3.pdf
What is the app and the OBD that you use? The only thing it lacks on the megane is to show the charging speed and i like to see all that data in a phone!
Great video Ninja!😂
you should do this test with a Peugeot 208e. It seems like it has a 10% below zero buffer (shown in the app but not in the car)
Hahaha, "the triangle is ina meaningless position..." :'D
When will you test the mg4?
4:35 you can drive with Megane about 700km near IKEA, more than i4. think about it)
I4 would go over 1000 km when hypermiling.
The more I see the car the more I start to like it. This might be a realy great Daily Driver.
You drove it so we don't have to. Thanks for your sacrifice ;)
I just love how you are honest about making a clickbate thumbnail, hehe.
It looks like Bjørn paid the horse to have them as parody of Renault's ad for Megane E-Tech. Clever move, son! 😀
Very well done. Any chance you can do that with a Mustang Mach e LR or GT? Just got mine and wondering how it behaves at 0%
Bjorn did you ever have any issues with the car not going into Drive or Reverse gear? I've had one now for 3 weeks, the Iconic+ and twice the P just flashes constantly when trying to put into gear.
9:25 what a consumption of water? 2 horse power dual motor
Not strange there are Leafs at IKEA because of all the trees 🤣😂🤣
This Megane e-tech is Nice i like that shit 😁 good car.
Maby a noob question, but are you sure the cable can handle 22 kW? Not like you get a chance to test that every day. It just looked kind of thin to me.
Yes. Watch the range test video.
Where did your father get the double floor from for his car?
I like this car!
Isnt there any harm to electronics wenn the battery is out of charge and then gets charged again?
Do you have a link to where to buy this charging cable?
Hi Björn.. just been diding into your spreadsheet. You test all ev’s milage as one person without load. Would you have an estimate on percentage range loss, if fully loaded 4 persons with full load of luggage?😮
Without load, not really he got 40kg of batteries in the boot.
Weight doesn’t change efficiency much unless your trip is strictly uphill or downhill. On level ground or rolling hills (where the overall elevation change is pretty small) the change in efficiency is minimal with just added weight.
Efficiency trade-offs in electric vehicles differ from those in conventional cars-the latter showing a strong dependency of fuel consumption on rated engine power. Mass-related efficiency trade-offs in electric vehicles are large and could be tapped by stimulating mode shift from passenger cars to light electric road vehicles. Electric passenger cars still offer potentials for further efficiency improvements. These could be exploited through a dedicated energy label with battery capacity as utility parameter.
To be honest, that's what I miss from our previous ICE car. a 5l can with Diesel which was good for 80+km in the trunk...... However, in all other aspects BEVs are better.
We looked at the Megane and it was decent but then the trunk and even more the inner mirror via camera killed it and we went for something else. Now we have lousy software but more space and a better trunk design.
you can turn off the screen in the rear view mirror and it will be a standard mirror. I hated it too and turned it off promptly during the test drive. Though it's useful sometimes, to have a higher point of view while reversing. The rest of the time it's annoying af because the eyes have to constantly refocus on the screen and cannot maintain the same focus like on a mirror.
@@ndc5544p with the minor slot in the rear (window?) it is useless to look into the mirror. Then I prefer the lousy software we have now....
When are you going to test drive the ET7?
I’m waiting for you to Brick the battery doing this test.
Anyway what is the battery SOH after you tried to kill it?
Any plans to do this test on Kia EV6 or I5?
i’m very surprised…. IKEA closed on a Sunday in Norway? 😂
Welcome to Europe.
@@bjornnyland Well in DK this is not the case where I live.
@bjorn why do you think left side is the right side? Always be off the Road. When parking in angle to Front : passenger side front panel is best option. Rear PS second best.
And when you put 150wh in the battery only gets around 130 Something due to double losses of charger brick and internal car charger losses...
Driver's door is on rhe the left side.
@@bjornnyland so it is shorter to get bumped into by traffic or tripping over the cable, i see?😉
The charging port on left side is more convenient when parking in a small garage - you can park slightly to the right, leaving more space on left for getting out of/into the car.
For on street charging the right side is better.
@@muche6321 buy a bigger car garage then 😉 or use Autopark/autosummon/Autodrive...
Zoe20 did this, blanking the range remaining approaching Zero..ZE50 reaching a charger at Zero still showed range of 4..And Fat Zoe copies Zoe 20..
7.5 in not standard . only full megane have 22 kw type 2
That audi coming in and parking just next to you.. on an big empty parking space.. People are so weird.
😀"Zere's no 'eating in ze car" -- from an ancient movie about a stranded steam train in the Alps. In freezing temps. Probably an old Hitchcock.
I have such a terrible experience with twingo ze that I would never even consider another Renault for the rest of my life.... In less than a year of ownership 4 months in service centar !
Stuck at IKEA. Every grown man's worst nightmare.
What is this you have in tel to left, i am intresting to now
You are good testdriver i like you vidio
have the best...
sorry my englisch m i from Sweden like buy this car,
its a good car?
Warning came at 0%, you had time to prepare for it ;D
wait it didnt't let you put it in neutral????? You couldn't just push the car to the charger????
@bjornnyland i know you don't care, and to be honest that is pretty much your brand 😊 but I really don't enjoy the click bait "this ev left me stranded" you have in the title cards of the 0 tests. it sends such a bad signal to non ev drivers, I don't watch these for that reason. But I have a megane, and I am very interested in knowing as much as possible about it
One horse is actualy 15 HP.
Yeah so that wagon really produced 30 HP.
Almost the same of Dacia Spring 😅
@@Luis-xr9ye yes, Dacia is 45 HP.
Didn't know that. This horsepower thing doesn't make much sense then. 30 HP AWD.
IKEA closed on Sunday???? Is it heaven??
It's called "Europe".
@@bjornnyland not true amico mio... In Italy every Sunday millions of husband are obliged to carry their wives at Ikea, waisting hours there that we can be passed watching the TV...
@@Sabanet I am fully with you! The 17 years we lived in the US we went shopping on Sundays and holidays. After returning to Germany these days can now be used for much better and more interesting things.
ABC, Bjørn! ABC! :)
I've had this on a lot of chargers, they claim max22kw because it has 2x11kw ports. Marketing lies ftw
Exactly virtually everything has marketing lies. I already thought exactly what you said; it’s 11kw per side. “Gigabit” Ethernet is 500mbps in each direction. So only if you are simultaneously uploading and downloading can you get gigabit.
sorry but dafakk are you talking about? There is just one port on this car and in Björn's range test video you can see that it is taking 20,7kW. Everything ok with you?
One horse is around 15hp.
the zoe and twingo also do this. You park it with a state of charge and in the morning you're in for a surprise. One time, I parked my zoe with 30% battery. Left it over night and in the morning: 20%. It's always like this. Sometimes even after a short time, like 2 hours, the battery will drop a few percentage points.
The consumption is so low because the car calculates it based on how the SoC changes. The zoe takes forever to go from 100% to 99% SoC, in this case you will literally have 0.0kWh/100km consumption for about 10km. After a certain point it starts calculating correctly. I believe it's the same thing with 0%. You drive with 0% and technically, for the car, no energy has been spent since there is no change in SoC, you can't go below zero. What the BMS does is different from the gauge cluster so you'll end up with weird consumption from 100%-99% and from 0% to stop.
Weird, the Megane Ive had for the weekend did not have any vampire drain. It took some % to preheat, but that's fine
@@basedwit’s not like a vampire drain, it is there still, just the claimed SOC is really overly affected by battery temp, than other cars.
My twingo loses maybe 1% overnight somtimes not even that. And if left for multiple days it stays on same soc.
@@basedw it sometimes happens that you end up with more SoC. In my case it's 1-3% of the initial SoC. In summer it's sometimes zero, sometimes 1%, so it's more of a cold season issue.
@@sindoorbelic8036 it stays the same after it readjusted. It's just the way the car reads the SoC and sometimes it fluctuates a few % up or down.
R u Stuck at IKEA Bangna or Bangyai?!?
Stranded on IKEA parking lot 10 meters from the charging station, but still charging from his own batteries carried in the trunk. All of this with 0.0% battery left but still parked perfectly in the parking slot. With warning triangle in the pointless position and hood open because reasons. This is the only channel in the world where such things can happen.
2 horses, AWD?
No, it's 8LW (8 legs walking) 😂
8LT, 8 Legs trotting. But the output is gross.
having maintained a fleet of Renault trucks the only bitd that don't go wrong are the VOLVO parts (engine gbox etc) What does go wrong are THE ELECTRICS!!!
Why anyone would buy a french electric cars to me is MADNESS they are shit at it
Just like the ID.3 and Cupra Born, it is not a bad car, but way too expensive for its performance and range. It seems that the MG4 does the same for a significantly lower price.
The infotainment is next level to the MG4. Easily.
@@Brandofviti Fair enough, but many people do not care about that. They simply want a car that is affordable and has enough space and a good range.
@@Astrophysikus I see your point which I do agree: you are right, however as a second time ev-owner.. I went for the better infotainment in this one? Why? Because the last car never even gave me state of charge and caused me a mild case of range anxiety.
Here: I can just say navigate to Berlin.. And it will lay out the route with where to stop to charge along the way.
I have only had it for two weeks, but holy hell.. The infotainment part makes the EV experience so much better :)
@@Astrophysikusone of the reasons I chose this car was having android automotive.
The other was the compact dimensions.
I will miss the one pedal driving
Is it AWD?
That’s zero wheel drive.
Disappointed! You missed calling Renault assistance asking for help.
That would be useless and is not a part of the test to find out how the car is.
@@bjornnyland take it easy. I enjoyed a lot your "calls" to chinese/german assistance. Anyway great work on the test itself. Cheers.
run a 2 horse carage down to zero :P
I will never not laugh at the only fans joke
I think your click bate pictures on these video's where you drive the car until the battery is dead, gives people, in general, less confidence in electrical cars, which is the total opposite of the long term goal.
Does it? Or is it the transparency showing what to expect with each model when you drive it to 0%?
Car wow has also done tests like that.
Bjørn saying onlyfans 🤣
horses will be the future again with all these invented taxes and anti car governments we have 🤣
When i run out of gas i go on gas station. You rich people like to have fake problems in the name of 'eco' ideology 😂😂😂
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Be careful ev owners as a rapid charge fries the batteries!
A friendly advice before U gonna sign UR mass new purchase orders for this make.
We'been working on Renaults un the past 3.5 decades.
Electricity has ALLWAYS been a major issue with them. Notably, the eternal IT bugs in the latest models since 2016...
Bjørn has just experienced some of them on this tip-top 100% EV "press version".
Let me share an obvious secret: they never gonna fix it, and not because of the "frenchy" logic of all French automakers (as the Brits call it).
Oh boy, no. No-no-no!
Because of unit profitability vs. serious quality issues that might eventually trigger mass recalls.
These IT(majorly hardware quality) issues aren't detrimental; thus, literally nobody gives a sh*t.
Same issues with FIAT, FORD, VW, "cheap" luxury Grrmans etc...
That's why Koreans&some Japanese, Spainyards, Czechs are more popular in those domestic markets.
Even in Germany!
Renault is extremely well prepared for comfort&outlook, longevity of woven/plastic materials etc...,but man: GOOD LUCK WITH IT AND with its MICRO ELECTRICITY! Particularly, after a small ("reparable") crash with such a hard and almost pure plastic make!
It's not the fault of the repairshops; often they are really good and nice, but the product philosophy behind all.
I would rather go for a Kia or Toyota if money and reliability are the principal drivers @ my acquisition.
But, this is my hansolo opinion, after some years I spent with Renaults... nothing else.
Enjoy very much this channel with Bjørn! Really fascinating, BIG THX4it;○}!
Of course we will trust some random rant that's barely coherent.
@@opjoter the little meaningless with limited comprehenshion (&vocab); Yes u are ;-)!
Does the charge cable release button always work, or is it disabled whilst the car is locked? How can I stop someone stealing my cable @teslabjorn
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