One factor is the blueprints. The 26s must be obtained with faction credits. Sure they’re fairly cheap in this regard, but I build 5 26s last slb (I’m ops 47) & it starts to add up. The BP for 28s-34s can be obtained organically via grinding. Just one more thing to factor into your personal calculus.
Yes. Rev has mention a number of times that one of the down sides to the current Borg grind is that it impacts faction credit sourcing. Now, I think this comes from his desire to use faction credits to keep buying ship bps for the 26's. But here's the rub. You still need to source the 3* mats to build them, and when you hit Ops 40, the event sourcing for those dry up quite a bit. So I can't see how Rev's sustains the pace to "always" be scrapping (at least not free-to-play). Is there something I'm missing?
@@seattlefoodcritic ok, I'm Ops 42, and still got the last tier of my Augur to go. T9'd my Ent only this month. I've maxed my efficiencies but I don't feel like I've got spare 3* for scrapping quite yet. Would that be the difference?
@@AndrewEddie I still haven’t maxed my g3 epics. I mean why? At ops 42 I had a valdore & a K’T’inga. I put the 3* materials into ships to scrap. Mayflowers, legionaries…
@@seattlefoodcritic I dual factoring Rom and Fed, so bps for the K'Tinga aren't an easy option for me. Sourcing 4* for the Kelvin is a known problem so I haven't gone down that road yet. I'm levelling up the Valdore, but the Ent and Aug both serve a very useful role with Solo Armadas and the higher tiers are incredibly useful with more Lower Deck officers coming on board. Yeah, so if you've decided not to max your 3* epics, that will free up mats. As to why, that depends on the player. Thanks for the clarification.
could be that, I also think it might be something like they are worried that a person like me will refine latinum and probes and away team credits on the 26 faction ship BPs to where they get around a ship a week, build and tier and level up the next week and then scrap using speedups that would likely be a part of the XP grind. as it is latinum can replace the faction credit and ship XP grind if you have that king of stock 300k latinum will get you a Mayflower, Legionare, or D3.
one point you are missing is the sourcing of bp for the ships... 28/32 ship bps can be gathered by farming reds.... 26th need to be bought in the frak store... they are most efficient but they cost frac credts... thats another point to take into calculation
9:37 Ok I love what you are saying. But what about the other main missing part-- where are the best places to farm for said ships? Because drop efficiency is a time factor in the game as well
I’m lvl 47, almost 48. I stopped counting the number of 26’s that I have scrapped because it’s an absolutely ridiculous number. I have scrapped 28’s and now I’m about to scrap my old 32’s because they are almost maxed anyway and they are just sitting there. Scrapping has literally saved me 1000’s of dollars in this game. My reasoning for scrapping has changed from upgrading ships to ops pushing. However I also need to save all of the faction credits that I can for the 50’s. So if I earn a set of bps I max and scrap it no matter what, because credits are more important to me right now.
Thank you! Probably one of your best and most relevant videos, especially considering where most are today level-wise. For me, at 46, I just finished scrapping my first Brel to feed my Korinar and was about to build/max/scrap another one this weekend for the Hugh SLB. Now, I'm not sure if it'll be a Centurion or a Mayflower instead. People have mentioned faction credits in comments, but time spent leveling up is also a consideration there cause ship XP eventually runs out and latinum is better spent elsewhere.
Quick comment from a 56,soon to be 57. Most.of us get into a ton of armadas. And thus have tons of free epic g3 ships that we can upgrade without using faction creds to acquire a mayflower. Also most whales will also use those free ships. To. Tier 2 and 4 in fsction hunt to do the majority of the faction hunt without grinding as much. So you end up with a bunch of augurs, d4s and enterprises that are t4 eventually and it just occasionally. Makes sense during say a leaderboard as you said, to spend left over required rss and max the epics and then scrap them too. Key here is you don't have to grind free 26 parts or use faction rss. Great video and love the spreadsheet.
I'm a level 51 now, and I've been scrapping g3 epics for the last several months. It's exactly as you've said. Saving the faction credits for other stuff(like the 53 uc ships)
@@JustinStrife How do you source the 3* needed to upgrade? I'm currently 41 and struggling with reliably sourcing 3* - especially for more expensive stuff like upgrading G3 epics past T6 ....
Keep in mind the faction credit costs: 10K for level 26, 20K for level 28 (uncommon), 60K for level 32 (rare) and 180K for level 36 (epic). If you're focusing on one faction and just doing make-work on the others, it's probably a good idea to use your non-focused faction as a source since ships will get more and more expensive (i.e. if you're working Romulans, maybe use the Klingons or Federation credits to build ships for scrapping). You can sometimes supplement this by PVE/armada chests or away team rewards but that's at the mercy of the RNG gods. I usually have a couple of ships queued up for scrapping (or to help with Faction Hunt events - you get points for leveling up ships). I'm level 54 but I like upgrading, and G4 rares are especially worth investing in. If you get to G5, remember that the G5 uncommons (Corvus/Northcutt/Vor'cha) are bargains at 450K credits (and you get a few bps from missions), but the G5 rares are 1.05 million each, and the G5 epics almost 2 million. Yikes.
I'm almost OPS 46, recycled like 3 lvl 26. As a f2p i never really had the mats to support scrapping, infact i still have some g3 researches to do i delay in favor of getting my first g3 epic to t9. Funny enough, i'm just waiting for Shipyard 46 to build the Pilum. I would have liked to recycle ships, but it just ships a problem to somewhere else. The Bajoran Material Token/Credit Claim Boxes are the real Stars.
Very useful. Thank you. So far I'm just scrapping when I get a superior ship or when I get the blue prints passively. At some point I might grind for Bortas parts as the scrapped Bortas is really really helping my K' Tinga. I just wish they would let us scrap hijacked ships.
Rev, how often are you scrapping a 26 ship? Could you dive a little more into how you are sourcing the 3* materials (and bps) to build them. What are your trade offs? (didn't max the 3* epics, etc)
so scrapping the 26's is smart. whats the most efficient way to level them up. do you have a spreed sheet explaining the xp cost or how much Lat it takes to max level??
I stick to the Legionary to feed parts for my Newton. Scrapped one Bortas, but it seemed to be much more expensive for an additional 2k Uncommon Battleship Parts.
Right off the bat my point is simple. There's not enough resources that are vain or given through rewards to keep on going scrapping situation to help build and continue.
lvl 44 and I just started to scrap my first Saladin. Trying to get another tier on my Kelvin before freezing my material spending to stock up on resources for pushing to 46+
I just got a Pilum. I have my Sally in scrapping already and another one building with blueprints on hand to build 2 more. I'll scrap the D3 I have at some point too, but I need ship parts more than mats right now so the Sally was first and I'm not wanting to spend credits on D3 print...
When does it start becoming cost effective to start scrapping the 26s? I know that you can start scrapping at 34, but when does it become cost efficient? When do you start collecting 3* mats at higher amounts?
One thing I've been wondering, does having a ship leveled up to max make a difference or just having it max tiered will do? I built a Bortas and was able to max tiered it fast but that left me with a level 1 max tier Bortas.
lets say i scrap the mayflower. did i put G4 into it at all? is there a net gain? also do i get the blueprints back t ore-build it or do i have to buy it again?
Are you dumping ship xp/lat to tier these up or you auto grinding these or hitting hostiles with exo to get them level 45 quickly? Even as a player at ops 43 even with researches mayflowers aren't going to many things that give a decent number of ship xp per kill.
That's not true, honestly. Most people (70%) of who watch my video are followers/current players. :) Besides, you'd be looking for the "2* Ship Scrapping" video, which really just consists of building/scrapping envoys.
@RevDeuce I am a new player and have not made it to 20 yet. I know nothing about scraping. This did not help me much. I just needed the very basic stuff.
One factor is the blueprints. The 26s must be obtained with faction credits. Sure they’re fairly cheap in this regard, but I build 5 26s last slb (I’m ops 47) & it starts to add up. The BP for 28s-34s can be obtained organically via grinding. Just one more thing to factor into your personal calculus.
Yes. Rev has mention a number of times that one of the down sides to the current Borg grind is that it impacts faction credit sourcing. Now, I think this comes from his desire to use faction credits to keep buying ship bps for the 26's.
But here's the rub. You still need to source the 3* mats to build them, and when you hit Ops 40, the event sourcing for those dry up quite a bit. So I can't see how Rev's sustains the pace to "always" be scrapping (at least not free-to-play). Is there something I'm missing?
@@AndrewEddie I’m a 47 & not having any trouble keeping my scrapper going 24/7. I’ve got nearly 2 months worth of ships waiting to scrap
@@seattlefoodcritic ok, I'm Ops 42, and still got the last tier of my Augur to go. T9'd my Ent only this month. I've maxed my efficiencies but I don't feel like I've got spare 3* for scrapping quite yet. Would that be the difference?
@@AndrewEddie I still haven’t maxed my g3 epics. I mean why? At ops 42 I had a valdore & a K’T’inga. I put the 3* materials into ships to scrap. Mayflowers, legionaries…
@@seattlefoodcritic I dual factoring Rom and Fed, so bps for the K'Tinga aren't an easy option for me. Sourcing 4* for the Kelvin is a known problem so I haven't gone down that road yet. I'm levelling up the Valdore, but the Ent and Aug both serve a very useful role with Solo Armadas and the higher tiers are incredibly useful with more Lower Deck officers coming on board.
Yeah, so if you've decided not to max your 3* epics, that will free up mats. As to why, that depends on the player. Thanks for the clarification.
That is one of my favorite parts of the game. Watching the ships take off after they are built.
I like to see them in dock.
I assume Scopely doesn't want to allow speed ups on scrapping because they want people to be impatient and buy packs for the uncommon materials.
could be that, I also think it might be something like they are worried that a person like me will refine latinum and probes and away team credits on the 26 faction ship BPs to where they get around a ship a week, build and tier and level up the next week and then scrap using speedups that would likely be a part of the XP grind. as it is latinum can replace the faction credit and ship XP grind if you have that king of stock 300k latinum will get you a Mayflower, Legionare, or D3.
Hmm, on a semi-related note, I wondered why "upgrading a ship" doesn't allow speedups.
@@shazbots ship upgrades allow speed ups I hardly ever wait the full time for a build or a tiering up.
one point you are missing is the sourcing of bp for the ships... 28/32 ship bps can be gathered by farming reds.... 26th need to be bought in the frak store... they are most efficient but they cost frac credts... thats another point to take into calculation
9:37 Ok I love what you are saying. But what about the other main missing part-- where are the best places to farm for said ships? Because drop efficiency is a time factor in the game as well
use lat for credits for the BP's
I’m lvl 47, almost 48. I stopped counting the number of 26’s that I have scrapped because it’s an absolutely ridiculous number. I have scrapped 28’s and now I’m about to scrap my old 32’s because they are almost maxed anyway and they are just sitting there. Scrapping has literally saved me 1000’s of dollars in this game.
My reasoning for scrapping has changed from upgrading ships to ops pushing. However I also need to save all of the faction credits that I can for the 50’s. So if I earn a set of bps I max and scrap it no matter what, because credits are more important to me right now.
@@nbarbeer I’m surprised that they haven’t already
I have followed for years. I still hear your voice in my head to "always be scrapping."
Thank you! Probably one of your best and most relevant videos, especially considering where most are today level-wise. For me, at 46, I just finished scrapping my first Brel to feed my Korinar and was about to build/max/scrap another one this weekend for the Hugh SLB.
Now, I'm not sure if it'll be a Centurion or a Mayflower instead. People have mentioned faction credits in comments, but time spent leveling up is also a consideration there cause ship XP eventually runs out and latinum is better spent elsewhere.
Quick comment from a 56,soon to be 57.
Most.of us get into a ton of armadas. And thus have tons of free epic g3 ships that we can upgrade without using faction creds to acquire a mayflower. Also most whales will also use those free ships. To. Tier 2 and 4 in fsction hunt to do the majority of the faction hunt without grinding as much.
So you end up with a bunch of augurs, d4s and enterprises that are t4 eventually and it just occasionally. Makes sense during say a leaderboard as you said, to spend left over required rss and max the epics and then scrap them too. Key here is you don't have to grind free 26 parts or use faction rss.
Great video and love the spreadsheet.
I'm a level 51 now, and I've been scrapping g3 epics for the last several months. It's exactly as you've said. Saving the faction credits for other stuff(like the 53 uc ships)
@@JustinStrife How do you source the 3* needed to upgrade? I'm currently 41 and struggling with reliably sourcing 3* - especially for more expensive stuff like upgrading G3 epics past T6 ....
Keep in mind the faction credit costs: 10K for level 26, 20K for level 28 (uncommon), 60K for level 32 (rare) and 180K for level 36 (epic). If you're focusing on one faction and just doing make-work on the others, it's probably a good idea to use your non-focused faction as a source since ships will get more and more expensive (i.e. if you're working Romulans, maybe use the Klingons or Federation credits to build ships for scrapping). You can sometimes supplement this by PVE/armada chests or away team rewards but that's at the mercy of the RNG gods.
I usually have a couple of ships queued up for scrapping (or to help with Faction Hunt events - you get points for leveling up ships). I'm level 54 but I like upgrading, and G4 rares are especially worth investing in.
If you get to G5, remember that the G5 uncommons (Corvus/Northcutt/Vor'cha) are bargains at 450K credits (and you get a few bps from missions), but the G5 rares are 1.05 million each, and the G5 epics almost 2 million. Yikes.
I'm almost OPS 46, recycled like 3 lvl 26.
As a f2p i never really had the mats to support scrapping, infact i still have some g3 researches to do i delay in favor of getting my first g3 epic to t9. Funny enough, i'm just waiting for Shipyard 46 to build the Pilum.
I would have liked to recycle ships, but it just ships a problem to somewhere else. The Bajoran Material Token/Credit Claim Boxes are the real Stars.
Im working on a mayflower now lol. Done 3 d3s and 3 legionaries. Envoys i do for events and whenever i remember lol.
I scrap Brel, Intrepid and Gladius for my 4* ships since I have a bunch to build after grinding triple 2nd faction locks.
Very useful. Thank you. So far I'm just scrapping when I get a superior ship or when I get the blue prints passively. At some point I might grind for Bortas parts as the scrapped Bortas is really really helping my K' Tinga. I just wish they would let us scrap hijacked ships.
Rev, how often are you scrapping a 26 ship? Could you dive a little more into how you are sourcing the 3* materials (and bps) to build them. What are your trade offs? (didn't max the 3* epics, etc)
Agree this would be awesome as well as knowing which primes to get after scrapping various types of ships
@@MrRed3360 Rev has a video about free primes from scrapping
I still enjoy even the 2* coming from the docks.
so scrapping the 26's is smart. whats the most efficient way to level them up. do you have a spreed sheet explaining the xp cost or how much Lat it takes to max level??
Thanks for updated scraping video
I stick to the Legionary to feed parts for my Newton. Scrapped one Bortas, but it seemed to be much more expensive for an additional 2k Uncommon Battleship Parts.
My issue is not wanting to spend faction or away team credits on mayflower, d3 etc. - so I tend to scrap whatever i have available bp from grinding.
Right off the bat my point is simple. There's not enough resources that are vain or given through rewards to keep on going scrapping situation to help build and continue.
I don't agree with that.
Hey Rev, can you ask the devs if we can have scrapping speedups.... And sine we can't, can they let us pay for a second scrapper? Need ship parts.
lvl 44 and I just started to scrap my first Saladin. Trying to get another tier on my Kelvin before freezing my material spending to stock up on resources for pushing to 46+
I just got a Pilum. I have my Sally in scrapping already and another one building with blueprints on hand to build 2 more. I'll scrap the D3 I have at some point too, but I need ship parts more than mats right now so the Sally was first and I'm not wanting to spend credits on D3 print...
Scrapping my 7th Mayflower tomorrow
I don't remember what number I'm on xD
When does it start becoming cost effective to start scrapping the 26s? I know that you can start scrapping at 34, but when does it become cost efficient? When do you start collecting 3* mats at higher amounts?
I struggled just getting some of these ships and I couldn't imagine scrapping them. Just saying....
I only scrap the 26s as they are the cheapest faction credits. I did scrap my Sally and Centurion but they were already maxed through normal gameplay.
I'm weird. I can't scrap them because they're the only ones I have :(
What level do you need to be to scap 28s
42
Hey Rev. Nice tutorial. I looked on your discord for the link, but didn't see it. -PhiloBeddoe
"You can use it at 20 and scrap stuff like turas etc etc"
Dam.. thats my main ship lvl 14 😂
The best ship to scrap is the one you don't need to spend credits on !!
Where can I get that spreadsheet? Thank you!
Oh man, I was hoping Ent would be better than Mayflower for this cause I never even built the Mayflower, now level 40. Oh well.
One thing I've been wondering, does having a ship leveled up to max make a difference or just having it max tiered will do? I built a Bortas and was able to max tiered it fast but that left me with a level 1 max tier Bortas.
Scrapping rewards depends on ship lvl not on ship tier. that's why you need to tier it up.
Someone send Deuce a cap: Lv46.
what about an extra scrapper so you can scrap more than one ship at a time? scopely can even sell it to us
They don't want to encourage scrapping as an economy mechanic
What about scrapping the 3* miners?
In which channel on his discord is this image? Cant find it.
Get rid of the Red Pips, give is an option to turn them off.
lets say i scrap the mayflower. did i put G4 into it at all? is there a net gain? also do i get the blueprints back t ore-build it or do i have to buy it again?
You have to buy it again. You do not put any G4 into a mayflower, it only takes g3 materials.
So does this mean don’t bother scraping the 32s?
Lol I haven't scraped any faction ships Idk how you keep up with all the mats needed
What do you think of scrapping the 3* Faction miners?
Where can I find this here spreadsheet?
Scrapping like my 10th maxed Enterprise with 4 more in the queue.
Are you dumping ship xp/lat to tier these up or you auto grinding these or hitting hostiles with exo to get them level 45 quickly? Even as a player at ops 43 even with researches mayflowers aren't going to many things that give a decent number of ship xp per kill.
You'd be surprised. Lots of players grinding out the XP (or using Lat) who are 7-10 Mayflowers in. It's work, but, its work many due to save money
I do a combination, I'll manually xp them in Mempa or so with a xp booster. Then when I get tired of it I'll dump ship xpnand lat into it😂
You can also auto-grind in Augment space if the bounty hunters keep spawning against you
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@@sgopher811 , I would like to, but they don't autospawn like how they used too since my server was merged a year ago. People kill the chasers.
Is there a recommendation for when to start scrapping Horizons?
Being the horizon is a common ship, you won't get out on what you put into one.
Where is this? ;)
The Mayflower is useless. The only reason I built one was when it surprised me that I had more than enough BP’s for it.
When you say build and scrap, you really mean build, level, tier to max….then scrap, right?
correct. Rewards are based on the LEVEL (not tier) of the ship. Always take a mayflower to level 45, for example.
To be honest i will be level 50 before i dont need 3* for research 😬😂
why do you always start in the middle. The people that look for these videos are the ones just starting. Not the ones at level 30.
That's not true, honestly. Most people (70%) of who watch my video are followers/current players. :)
Besides, you'd be looking for the "2* Ship Scrapping" video, which really just consists of building/scrapping envoys.
@RevDeuce I am a new player and have not made it to 20 yet. I know nothing about scraping. This did not help me much. I just needed the very basic stuff.
No chart in discord
It's pinned in the # ship-scrapping channel
Thank you for the helping..
Where can i find the spreadsheet?
My discord
@Rev Deuce oke but where on your discord
So why we do not get any speed up when we do this
What can u scrap to get epic material for prime borg rewards
In the 40's the 7 and 30 day chests start to give out epic. The bonus refinery also gives out epic, but I'm not sure what level that starts at.
@@187lennon ops 42
@@kevinwilliamson7158 no, bonus ref at 41
Don’t scrap your realta 😮
They've removed that so it shouldn't be possible anymore. (thankfully)
Rev only has one rule: Everyone fights, no one quits. If you don't do your job, he'll shoot you. You get me?
for someone who loves math u need to learn how to love spears sheets
What a pay to win game. Man it sucks.
Play for free, 8 weeks in and $3000.00 later i don't feel so well...
but @ 71 I can't find you on discord, help
whats discord addy?