Obsessed With Eating Healthy? BEWARE Of These Warning Signs
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- Опубликовано: 14 фев 2024
- Our ever-increasing interest in health and healthy eating habits has a dark side: Orthorexia, which is an unhealthy obsession with healthy eating. In today’s conversation, Jeff and fellow Commune Co-Founder, Jake Laub, discuss the predicament of knowing too much about how to be healthy - and how to walk a middle path versus going to an extreme.
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Brilliant! Shared again and again 😊
Something that wasn’t mentioned is that the food supply has really gone downhill in this country. We used to. E able to find much better quality locally run restaurants in town or when we’d travel and now it’s difficult to find anything other than corporate food (Cisco). We met some travelers from Australia who commented on how they were surprised at how difficult it was to find healthy food in our restaurants- and they weren’t looking for extreme health - just food that doesn’t make you feel cruddy.
Beautiful and funny podcast, and to the point! Thank you, gentlemen :)) enlightening and also, I should say, enriching in terms of vocabulary. The speakers are both cultivated in their expression :)
Great conversation! I wonder how much the consciously/ unconsciously/subconsciously pervasive Judeo-Christian belief that we are born flawed plays into the obscession of being more healthy.
I was thinking the same.
Wow this is so sad and i realize that this is all about the addictive cycle… as one learns in the recovery community which is just another paradigm, but one from which you borrowed and also from the DSM definition of addictive or as they say SUD symptoms and signs, you have both just switched addictive process behaviors and are now part of the problem per se with all of your pseudo scientific backing for what you say…. You’ve lost perspective and your addictive and obsessive thinking will definitely be passed along via your parenting…. I have binge watched so much of this and all of the different viewpoints regarding health and nutrition including much of the research. As a clinician and a person in recovery for 21 years i realize all we are creating is a way to justify our own particular switch of disordered eating and exercise etc Switching from one addictive disorder to another and justifying it as not as bad or due to the health benefits still ignores the very neuro cascade and anxiety producing compulsions (‘today I woke up and said hey I am human and so off to the gym’, to paraphrase one of the presenters), is still the same thing; i.e. I now need to exercise to quell my feelings of shame by compensating, via exercise to show I am really healthy, proving I am still in control…What am I missing? I also include myself in this category, by the way, and thank you for this podcast which is purportedly about how to balance but is just more of the same as the presenters cannot help but one upping one another from each one’s superior esoteric depth of knowledge… this is a perfect podcast in the sense that it demonstrates the problem of attempting to quell one’s egoism about one’s ‘correct’ perspective all the while purporting not to do so!
This finally brings into sharp focus for me that in my own life i can see that this is just a switch of compulsive or addictive behaviors underlying my fear based need to control. The emotional signals I can heed are, thinking I am right, and the shame that comes with not doing what I think i need to,to control my eating or exercising or etc …. It’s a vicious cycle of shame, temporary self congratulations and secretly needing to limit my social interactions and relationships in order to follow my compulsion.
Thank you… I hope I can follow up with true changes… i do think meditation and inviting less social media and ‘science podcasts’ so into my life could be part of a new pattern.
Heed your children’s behaviors and what they focus upon, because they reveal what you’re passing on instead of what you hope to…. They are absorbing the disconnect between what you say and what you do. This is for all of us who think in these ways, not just for you as individuals.
Awesome comment. Thank you for writing this. Very thoughtful and helpful.
A lot of wisdom in this comment
We cope with stress using various mechanisms, and some are objectively healthier than others. Reducing all such coping mechanisms down to "addictions" is losing a lot of nuance. There is a magnitude to everything. I dream of world peace one day, but does that mean I want no competition between humans? No sports? No fun? Of course not. There's a balance to be found in all things, and you don't have to ride that balance 100% of the time. That would be boring. Nor does everyone else (namely your children) need to follow your path on the same timeline as you. They will find their path in their own time by experimenting and learning from their past behavior.
Know that there's no shame in mistakes. There are no mistakes at all really, only lessons. No imbalance is perhaps akin to stagnation. If your addictions become obsessive and hinder other things in your life, you will probably notice and make changes consciously or subconsciously. Don't think about it so much. Go to the gym when you feel like it, go some of the time when you don't feel like it, and if you want to skip, consider going on a walk instead... Or sit down in front of a TV and binge Netflix instead.
My diet used to be obsessive. I weighed everything to the gram and tracked it all. Then I learned to eat just as healthy without all the tracking, partly because I can estimate my caloric intake. I still manage to endulge occasionally and enjoy my relationships. No matter what you believe the purpose of life is, one thing is certain: experience is built into the human condition. Without the bad experiences and anxiety the good experiences wouldn't feel so good. There can be no light without darkness. At the same time though, it's not yet clear to me whether we need pitch black darkness to experience bliss. Perhaps not. Perhaps bliss can exist alongside a relatively tame level of darkness, and that's the balance I seek.
Some poeople fall into this condition because threy are dealing with serious health concerns and using food as medicine. Like was mentioned at the start of the podcast once you become aware of food issues it is difficult to try to not let it steer your choices completely, especially if you experience positive results in the health issue from altering food choices.
This was my experience. I even took a nutrition program. We learned about this condition but it was a brief overview of it. A nutritionist brought it up to me when I was her client.
It can be a complicated topic.
So it's time for more pizza, sounds good
If a doctor diagnoses a disease with a Greek (or Latin ) label...who then holds the power to heal ?
Just horrible to listen to , useless info