I know the issues with spray sunscreens, but some people like me have to use them due to injury or disability. Since I broke my arm and am going through PT, I do not have my full range of motion. I can apply regular sunscreen everywhere except my back which is where the spray comes in. For this purpose, I would love to know what sunscreen spray you would recommend. It might not be ideal, but 1/3 the protection is better than none, and I swim daily! I cannot go without it unless I want both immediate and long term health consequences. I love your content so much, and I’ve been binge watching for the last week. If there are any Australian or Asian beauty sprays, I would love to know about those too! Thank you for all of this! @labmuffinbeautyscience
I think she's mentioned that shes a big fan of Ultra Violette. And I think she's got Clean Screen showing at the start (the dark blue tube). I have these too and confirm they feel really nice. Pricey though.
@@rubysresource Thx, I'll check it out again and peek at her blog. I'm never into reading blogs, so I always forget her channel actually started as a blog!
Australia - the country where the sun is closest to a beam of pure misery, would naturally have a vested interest in sunscreens. I use the Bondi Sands one because it's cheap and good, but they've started doing a lot of clean beauty marketing which bothers me, so I'm thinking of swapping :s
@@LabMuffinBeautyScience yeah over here they've started pushing the idea that they contain no reef-damaging UV filters. Their shift to fragrance free annoys me a little since I love the coconut smell they used to do, but at least no fragrance isn't a clean beauty thing.
@@skortyspice places like Hawaii ban the reef-damaging filters. I don't like clean beauty marketing, but that is less of a clean beauty thing and more of a move to something that is legitimately safer.
@@a.h.4837 Lab Muffin has a good video on this topic about whether scientific evidence suggests such filters are harmful to the environment, and unfortunately, the study that people get this information from looks like it was created to market a beauty product more than anything else.
Is there anything wrong with their marketing tactics? I mean, as long as the product is still the same it should be fine. Also fragrance free is better for skin since there's no unnecessary chemicals that may irritate the skin
It would be great if you can make a video or article where you compare USA, European, Australian and Korean sunscreens. I love the cosmetic elegance of the Korean sunscreens but I don't trust them with the SPF & PA ratings, so I have a Korean sunscreen that I use on a daily basis but I would never wear it on the beach for example.
You "don't trust" the Korean sunscreen. You don't know much about Koreans do you?? Excellence or don't bother is basically part of the Korean mindset - am not kidding. I'd trust them more than I'd trust the Japanese sunscreen!
the new Cancer Council for face SPF50 in the pump pack is sensational - feels light a moisturiser, can layer over normal moisturiser and reapply - their tinted ones are OK as are the water resistant one, but this face one is the best because it feels like the good KBeauty ones - AND proceeds go to cancer research so it is an extra bonus
I’m gobsmacked. I’ve actually learned something from these shorts. Usually they are funny, ghastly, dire or ridiculous. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Informative, interested and highly valuable!!!!
Thanks so much for this discussion! I am Black American, and for several years, my fave sunscreen has been BLUE LIZARD (Australian!)! Never yet been to Australia, btw. European/ EU screens are my 2nd favourite, and USA comes 3rd. I AM concerned about the U.S.’s low and misleading bar for what’s considered BROAD SPECTRUM. This is extremely important, especially for all of us who need high UV-A protection. This definitely requires follow up and correction. 👈🏽👈🏿👈🏾 Cheers
Blue Lizard is not an Australian sunscreen. Or, apparently it was originally, but no one here knows what that brand is, and it's not available here in Australia. That one is just a pure mineral sunscreen (inorganic), so it's less of an issue compared to chemical sunscreens (organic). Just not very cosmetically elegant, especially for darker skin. Korean (Kolmar manufactured brands) is the best in that regard. Also gotta be careful with foreign brands that are sold in the U.S. because then to comply with regulations, the formula has to be changed for U.S. customers, making the sunscreens much worse (like with Bondi Sands in the U.S.). She actually talks about it at 10:25 of the video titled; "Chemist reviews sunscreens: Haruharu, Supergoop, Trader Joe's, Blue Lizard" Then there's also a sunscreen called "Australian Gold", which has nothing to do with Australia and isn't available here, and originated in Florida apparently.
@@Siberius- they really should make it illegal for these sunscreens to market themselves as Australian. They know what they’re doing, they’re trying to appeal to consumers who’ve heard Australian sunscreen is better and it’s not cool.
@@kai0tfooolI love Korean sunscreen for the face because the old chemical filters burn my eyes and Korean sunscreen doesn’t! But use Australian sunscreen for the body because Korean sunscreen is expensive 😅
@@caitroseco6752 -Yea there should probably be a consumer protection law to prevent that. Might be a colossal task to interpret for every situation and enforce though, with every product out there. I dunno. Oh we are literally twins! I use Kolmar manufactured sunscreens for my face and currently Bondi Sands (Australian formula version) for uncovered body areas, because I ain't spending that kind of money. Bondi Sands stays quite greasy though, so I should find a different one. Maybe a Cancer Council matte one for the body that isn't expensive. The tricky part is that body sunscreens are generally all water-resistant, meaning they're more greasy. At least greasiness on the body isn't as bothersome as the face. WAIT, there's "Cancer Council SPF 50+ Face & Body Moisturiser Matte Finish 150ml", for 19 bux at Chemist Warehouse, and it's not the water-resistant version. I'll be buying that shortly lol. Glad you commented. Also ya don't want that shit on your palms. Awful. I bought spray-on sunscreen for the back of my hands, but then I realised that I am actually very dexterous with applying regular sunscreen just using the backs of my hands and avoiding the palms. I thought it would be all awkward and like rubbing 2 planks of wood together, but no not at all.
Oooohhh. Is that why some USA spf 30 sunscreens have label stuck over them with spf 15 on it for Aus? Thinking Paula's Choice face unscreen I bought online that came with sticker. Also CeraVe facial moisturiser.....15 here; 30 in USA. Glad we're rigorous with testing sunscreen as day 6 of 40 degree plus in Perth ends......
No. The reason these products are labelled as 'moisturiser with SPF 15' is to avoid classification as a therapeutic agent. That way brands don't have to pay listing fees, don't have to manufacture in TGA-approved facilities, and can use any ingredient allowed in cosmetics rather than only the ingredients approved for use in therapeutic goods. You can tell if a product is a therapeutic good by looking for a listing number (AUST L) or registration number (AUST R) on the product packaging. The CeraVe SPF sold here is one of the European versions, which is very different to the version sold in the US. In Europe it is sold as broad spectrum SPF 25. While European broad spectrum requirements are the same, they have more options for how SPF can be tested.
@@rubysresource Thanks so much for clarifying that. Will now ensure I look for TGA identification. I did know CeraVe was European, owned by the L'Oreal mega company I think, so assumed they hadn't done the Aus testing here from Michelle's vid. Good to know!
@@kooltom4 to clarify, I don't think a product without a listing number is necessarily bad… and a listing number isn't a guarantee that the testing was done properly!
Ceraves facial moisturizer with SPF is supposed to be a morning/day lotion... Not a sunscreen. So using it you still have to layer on a sunscreen. And it is not marketed as a sunscreen but a lotion. I love CeraVe as a brand but I hate that AM moisturizer.
@@Alisha21210 I don't think that's correct. As long as you use the proper amount, "moisturizer with spf" is just as good as a dedicated sunscreen for daily use, all other things being equal. If you are going to be sweating a lot, getting wet, or doing something like a beach/waterpark day, you probably want a water-resistant proper sunscreen. But for everyday use, such as doing errands or going to work or school, a moisturizer with spf is just as good. Personally the generic version of the cerave AM is one of my favorites. It's a combo sunscreen so I get the best of both worlds, it doesn't pill or leave a white cast on me even though it's got zinc, and spf 30 is just fine for me for most of the year. The best sunscreen is the one you will want to wear every day, and I actually like putting that one on.
I love the cancer council sunscreen especially the face ones they're light feeling , the moisturising ones make my skin feel fantastic and they cost pretty alright.
If any of you live in Europe I would definitely recommend French sunscreens, but oddly enough, my favorite sunscreen so far is from Cetaphil, which is an American brand lol
@@whitepouch0904 it proves the point that sunscreens is a small part of skin cancer prevention. There are so many people who are diligent in its usage, yet still get skin cancer. There are far many who don't wear it and never had cancer. It comes down to a person's genes
Thank you _so_ much Michelle for introducing me to Australian sunscreens!!! I finally found the best sunscreen for me (Cancer Research Council). And it's way cheaper than LRP, doesn't irritate my skin, and works so much better. 🥳
This is a relief because I used to get so worried that my sunscreen wasn’t enough whenever we went to swimming carnivals every year for like 7 hours straight in high school. Bought that spf 50 4 hours in water ofc
I wish Australian sunscreens used the Boots Star UVA rating system though so you can get a more precise idea on how much UVA protection you’re getting, as opposed to 1/3 of the the UVB protection or more. And that they sold them in the USA.
The boots star rating system can be pretty confusing. Sometimes the product with the lower boots star rating actually has better UVA and UVB protection. Like if you had one SPF 50+ broad spectrum sunscreen with test results SPF 100 UVAPF 35, it would have a lower boots star rating than an SPF 50+ broad spectrum sunscreen with test results SPF 60 UVAPF 30.
@@rubysresource right, it does require a little bit more math, what would be ideal would be to have the UVAPF rating as a standalone, but it’s the most transparent rating we have at the moment. The PA++++ is only UVAPF 16 or higher, which really doesn’t give a very good idea at all. The EU requiring it to be 1/3 of the UVB protection or above is better than the PA rating, but still not as precise boots star rating.
In Australia, the law is that a sunscreen listed as 'broad-spectrum' must have a minimum UVA protection of at least 1/3 of its SPF claim, e.g. a sunscreen labelled SPF50+ is estimated to filter 94% UVA radiation.
@@dachshundsdogs4407 The boots star rating gives the ratio of uva to uvb absorbance, that is not equal to the UVAPF/SPF ratio, boots is also measured at a different quantity 1.3mg/cm2 and only via an in-vitro method, in contrast to the regular in-vivo SPF test at 2mg/cm2. The boots ratio says very little in regards to the exact UVAPF value. Actually 3 boots stars is about equal to the 1/3 ratio in EU and AUS, the 1 and 2 boots stars were abolished since they didn't meet the EU 1/3 requirement.
@@peterkloostermann thank you, this is helpful. I try to use 5 star sunscreens when possible, but none of it is as clear as it ought to be. I think UVA-PF should just be shared as standard.
What are some of these brands? I can’t see from the video. I’m trying to be better about skincare so I’m definitely interested in picking some of these up
@@berrykit Cancer council are good (in my opinion). I like that they have a range of different sunblocks to choose from, which is good because I hate the feeling and smell of most. They are also bringing out more tinted ones and lip balm ones, so I can get some makeup coverage from my 50spf sunblock
@@kirstynmcleary4963can u recommend me any cancer council or tga approved sunscreen having the following properties 1)chemical one 2) water resistance 3) tinted 4) matte one
Another thing to mention. I think Spf below 15 is almost illegal in the EU. Due to climate change and the sun being stronger than ever, I remember hearing that sunscreens of 15spf and lower won't be sold or made anymore.
@@junedaisy707 I think it also stems from the fact in Europe there's a high culture of sunbathing. It's easy to see beaches in Italy filled with people sunbathing. And of course I can't remind all people to wear sunscreen. I don't get sunburnt that often because I always wear high protection since I'm as white and pale as a ghost can ever be. I might even be a vampire at this point. I once got sunburnt by staying under a gazebo all day whilst forgetting to put sunscreen.
I was hospitalized a lot as a kid and my skin reacts to literally everything that touches it except for mothereffing blue lizard. Thank god I dont have to import it anymore. It was like 50 dollars for a little bottle of it before they started selling it locally
I've always struggled with sunscreens on my skin, but have found better luck with the cetaphil daily use!! Obv if I was going out to the beach, it's a cancer Council approved brand, but for everyday use cetaphil has been quite comfortable!
I'd also like brands to be able to make claims about UVA protection above the minimum here like they can in Europe - that'd create an incentive for sunscreens primarily for the Australian market to go above and beyond.
I'd like that too, but at the same time there isn't an agreed upon measurement for UVA so it might lead to unfair comparisons (which is the justification for not allowing it I think).
That cancer council matte sunscreen is the literal BEST! Affordable and provides great protection whilst staying matte abd not all greasy under makeup, works well with all of the foundations I have used it with.
I found myself getting a weird skin reaction to all of the cancer council sunscreens when I was in Sydney. Couldn’t really figure out why but didn’t have it with my (eu) Avene one. Obviously doesn’t apply to everyone/all products, just figured there was something in there disagreeing with me
Chemist Warehouse is the only place I know of. Currently they only offer express shipping, which starts at about 21USD and goes up according to total weight of your order. You can also get some of the same La Roche-Posay sunscreens from Europe or Mexico.
Hi Michelle:) I know this video is a year old, but could you please address how Korean and Japanese sunscreens compare to Australian sunscreens in this aspect? I’d love to know if they’re fairly comparable:) Thank you!!🙏❤
Sunscreen here has to be this good because you only have to be in the sun for less three minutes to get burnt! I went outside to take some photos one, came back inside and was red all over my face and shoulders. So painful 😭
My fave sunscreen to date is a generic drugstore brand from Australia, that I stocked up on when I visited there end of 2019 🇦🇺. I should start seeing how much it would be to import these to the U.S., as I’ve finished up my stockpile.
@@symphonyj2429 I know there was a Q in the brand, and it’s a very generic no fragrance, mineral sunscreen. They make a lot of basic, no fragrance drugstore items, such as soap, too. I’m trying to see if my mom or another relative still has a bottle of this elusive fave of mine, cuz I can’t remember off the top of my head anymore.
@@symphonyj2429 Coles have a brand one for face and one for body that Lab Muffin had as an honourable mention. Face one is about $6.00 ...it can make your face quite shiny though however if you use makeup I usually press abit of powder overtop before applying foundation.
I know Australian sunscreen are the best because I'm a redhead who needs sunscreen in the 80s. In South America . Australian sunscreen were the only one that actually worked not even Vichy worked for me.
I really don't like Australian sunscreen but I use it anyway. It sticks to my skin like a suction cup... I have to scrub it off with a loofah 😂. I kid you not! I'm not sure if they are as good, but I started using the "aerosol" ones, because even the sprays were driving me nuts
-For the cheaper brands, Chemist Warehouse is the only place I know of. Currently they only offer express shipping, which starts at about 26CAD and goes up according to total weight of your order.- You can also get some of the same La Roche-Posay sunscreens from Europe or Mexico.
Your videos are brilliant! Thank you so much! I was wondering, have you seen Odile Monode's videos on K-beauty? There's another brilliant "skin-care nerd" with a different perspective. I hope you watch her. I believe a collaboration between the two of you would be great!
I'm speaking to you as someone who lives in Asia. Most Asian countries don't even have any rules regarding SPF testing. Most products that are considered safe are sold over-the-counter, and labels have a freedom to label their products with any SPF numbers that they want to advertise, even if the products don't contain any UV filters at all. Japan is currently the only country that has strict rules regarding SPF testing. South Korea is following behind after the SPF scandal that happened in 2020. In my country, trusted brands test their sunscreens in Australia and France/Germany. International brands usually sell the same sunscreens that they sell in other countries because they don't want to hurt their own reputation by selling sunscreens with fake SPF numbers.
Hi Michelle 💕 Can you recommend a good alcohol and fragrance free sunscreen for dry skin? I love Ultra Violette supreme screen but since I’ve started using tretinoin, the alcohol has been stinging my skin. I’ve since switched to Canmake mermaid skin but worried the SPF isn’t as well formulated for Australian summers. Thanks so much! 😘
I was sensitive to Supreme Screen, and decided to try my luck with Queen Screen. I have oily skin and am generally sensitive to chemical sunscreens. But I’ve had no problems with Queen Screen, and it’s my new fave.
@@leather_bath Thanks lovely! I’m so glad it’s working for you. I can’t deal with the fragrance in Queen Screen - it makes my face itch 😂 I think tret has really limited the sunscreens I can use.
My favourite is cancer council, it’s good sunblock and the proceeds go towards cancer research. They also have a whole range of different sunblock to suit different needs, so I regularly use a combination of about 4 of my favourites to coat myself. I believe chemist warehouse will ship it internationally.
I've been to cities that never close down from New York to Rio and old London town ;) jokes apart they are not just good but also on the cheap compared to EU products. How would you place Korean sunscreens compared to EU and AUS spfs?
And here I was, planning to bring my big bottle of opened sunscreen for my Australian holiday... lol I guess I need to buy from there and bring it home instead~
I always thought it was weird how Americans would always say it’s both UVA/UVB protective because I didn’t realise that just wasn’t automatic as it is in Australia
I've been wanting to try Australian sunscreens, but I'm not sure of the best sites from which to order them. Right now, I primarily use European sunscreen but do like the prospect of even stronger water-resistance.
Personally, I think Japanese sunscreens are the best. They’re have a more watery jell like consistency and their chemical filters are much more stable and don’t burn or sting my eyes.
Such a good idea not to reinvent the wheel. "Regulations from every other Country and smosh them together." I need a sunscreen for dark skin. Maybe a tinted SPF 50 to take the place of makeup. Any suggestions?
I would check out "black girl sunscreen", it's formulated with darker skin tones in mind. I'm white, but I borrowed this sunscreen once and it was really nice. I'm not sure if they carry tinted SPF tho, the one I tried was clear on both my friend and I.
Now I’m wondering what are the regulations of my country’s sunscreens 🤔 I know we have some pretty great lightweight formulas, but it never crossed my mind these types of regulation details.
I learned to love sunscreens late, but now I love them. I wonder if I can buy Australian sunscreen in Germany. 🤔 I want the max protect. I wonder why companies all over the world just do the bare minimum, if there are expirienced companies with better solutions. Do you have to reapply it in Australia? THE European ones need to be reapplied every 4ish hours when in sun. It's a little frustrating.
Our labelling laws make all sunscreens say to reapply frequently, which is probably sensible - unless it has special technology in it that's been tested like Evy, I would reapply every couple of hours if I'm exposed to the sun.
The cancer council still recommends reapplying every 2 - 4 hours. But they also have a wonderful free app that will remind me when to apply, let’s me know the UV levels (as there are times it’s better to just avoid the sun) and even gives you a rough estimate of how much you need to apply on each person. We like to avoid skin cancer and so put a lot into research and education about sun protection. Even our early childhood services and schools have strict rules around sun protection and many supply sunblock and hats to ensure everyone is adequately protected. It would be nice to see the rest of the world have similar cares about sun damage.
Yes you can! I like the idea of Vaseline as it has just one ingredient. You could also use any moisturizer to dilute the tretinoin cream, but i would recommend to use a moisturizer with minimal ingredients! I'm not as decorated as the Australian goddess, but I have a BS in chemical engineering from the USA 😀
Do they use filters that sting your eyes? I live in the US but buy Japanese or Korean sunscreens because the chemical filters in the US ALWAYS burn and sting my eyes.
Aussie sunscreen rocks. I was in Australia on holiday and went swimming with sharks, was out for 6 hours. Applied it twice in the day and got NO sunburns
They absolutely should be tested against drug regulations they literally prevent skin cancer and the kind of ageing that costs thousands to correct through cosmetic surgery it’s stupid that any old thing can be called and used as an spf when it just isn’t
Interesting, thanks. Just one question - do the Australian testing rules only apply to Australian brands, or to any sunscreen that is sold on Australian shelves?
the problem with aus/nz is that they only need to provide he active ingredients in the ingredient list. I found only found this by looking at the fda aproval for it.
Australia also has strict regulations in agriculture. I feel safe consuming Australian anything edible. But the sunscreen is just too heavy for the humid and warm climate in my country.
My top sunscreen recommendations: ruclips.net/video/HzDvzcKumCo/видео.html
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@@Chickenface12345I took a screenshot and then clicked the link from the screenshot. Not as handy as having it clickable, but it works!
@@Chickenface12345 take a screenshot and then go to your photos, and the link will be available
I know the issues with spray sunscreens, but some people like me have to use them due to injury or disability. Since I broke my arm and am going through PT, I do not have my full range of motion. I can apply regular sunscreen everywhere except my back which is where the spray comes in. For this purpose, I would love to know what sunscreen spray you would recommend. It might not be ideal, but 1/3 the protection is better than none, and I swim daily! I cannot go without it unless I want both immediate and long term health consequences. I love your content so much, and I’ve been binge watching for the last week. If there are any Australian or Asian beauty sprays, I would love to know about those too! Thank you for all of this! @labmuffinbeautyscience
because everything is deadly in Australia, including the sun light XD
Mostly the sun 😆 It's is actually the first thing they tell you at conferences: the deadliest thing is the sun
ESPECIALLY the sunlight
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Michelle, can you do a video highlighting your favorite Australian sunscreens?
Yes please
I think she's mentioned that shes a big fan of Ultra Violette. And I think she's got Clean Screen showing at the start (the dark blue tube). I have these too and confirm they feel really nice. Pricey though.
@@Arwenpii it's the Supreme Screen
@@rubysresource Thx, I'll check it out again and peek at her blog. I'm never into reading blogs, so I always forget her channel actually started as a blog!
Great idea, and where possible, can you buy them in North America?
Australia - the country where the sun is closest to a beam of pure misery, would naturally have a vested interest in sunscreens. I use the Bondi Sands one because it's cheap and good, but they've started doing a lot of clean beauty marketing which bothers me, so I'm thinking of swapping :s
Hmmm I haven't seen them do much clean marketing! Maybe a regional difference in their marketing tactics...
@@LabMuffinBeautyScience yeah over here they've started pushing the idea that they contain no reef-damaging UV filters. Their shift to fragrance free annoys me a little since I love the coconut smell they used to do, but at least no fragrance isn't a clean beauty thing.
@@skortyspice places like Hawaii ban the reef-damaging filters. I don't like clean beauty marketing, but that is less of a clean beauty thing and more of a move to something that is legitimately safer.
@@a.h.4837 Lab Muffin has a good video on this topic about whether scientific evidence suggests such filters are harmful to the environment, and unfortunately, the study that people get this information from looks like it was created to market a beauty product more than anything else.
Is there anything wrong with their marketing tactics? I mean, as long as the product is still the same it should be fine. Also fragrance free is better for skin since there's no unnecessary chemicals that may irritate the skin
It would be great if you can make a video or article where you compare USA, European, Australian and Korean sunscreens. I love the cosmetic elegance of the Korean sunscreens but I don't trust them with the SPF & PA ratings, so I have a Korean sunscreen that I use on a daily basis but I would never wear it on the beach for example.
If you care about cosmetic elegance, Japanese sunscreens are the best IMO.
@@Arterismos yesss, Allie or Anessa, but expensive af. Kose is my favourite coz it's cheap and it's the 3rd best after those two.
Yes!!
I'd love a video on sunscreen regulation in Korea and Japan since they're the home of a lot of popular skincare brands!!
You "don't trust" the Korean sunscreen. You don't know much about Koreans do you?? Excellence or don't bother is basically part of the Korean mindset - am not kidding. I'd trust them more than I'd trust the Japanese sunscreen!
the new Cancer Council for face SPF50 in the pump pack is sensational - feels light a moisturiser, can layer over normal moisturiser and reapply - their tinted ones are OK as are the water resistant one, but this face one is the best because it feels like the good KBeauty ones - AND proceeds go to cancer research so it is an extra bonus
Thank you for this! I love my Korean sunscreens but they're not economical when I'm working outdoors 8hrs every day in the Australian summer 😬
I absolutely love them! They’ve also started bringing out a few 50spf lip balms.
I’m gobsmacked. I’ve actually learned something from these shorts. Usually they are funny, ghastly, dire or ridiculous. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Informative, interested and highly valuable!!!!
Thanks so much for this discussion! I am Black American, and for several years, my fave sunscreen has been BLUE LIZARD (Australian!)! Never yet been to Australia, btw. European/ EU screens are my 2nd favourite, and USA comes 3rd. I AM concerned about the U.S.’s low and misleading bar for what’s considered BROAD SPECTRUM. This is extremely important, especially for all of us who need high UV-A protection. This definitely requires follow up and correction. 👈🏽👈🏿👈🏾 Cheers
Blue Lizard is not an Australian sunscreen. Or, apparently it was originally, but no one here knows what that brand is, and it's not available here in Australia.
That one is just a pure mineral sunscreen (inorganic), so it's less of an issue compared to chemical sunscreens (organic).
Just not very cosmetically elegant, especially for darker skin. Korean (Kolmar manufactured brands) is the best in that regard.
Also gotta be careful with foreign brands that are sold in the U.S. because then to comply with regulations, the formula has to be changed for U.S. customers, making the sunscreens much worse (like with Bondi Sands in the U.S.).
She actually talks about it at 10:25 of the video titled; "Chemist reviews sunscreens: Haruharu, Supergoop, Trader Joe's, Blue Lizard"
Then there's also a sunscreen called "Australian Gold", which has nothing to do with Australia and isn't available here, and originated in Florida apparently.
You should really try Korean too
@@Siberius- they really should make it illegal for these sunscreens to market themselves as Australian. They know what they’re doing, they’re trying to appeal to consumers who’ve heard Australian sunscreen is better and it’s not cool.
@@kai0tfooolI love Korean sunscreen for the face because the old chemical filters burn my eyes and Korean sunscreen doesn’t! But use Australian sunscreen for the body because Korean sunscreen is expensive 😅
@@caitroseco6752 -Yea there should probably be a consumer protection law to prevent that. Might be a colossal task to interpret for every situation and enforce though, with every product out there. I dunno.
Oh we are literally twins! I use Kolmar manufactured sunscreens for my face and currently Bondi Sands (Australian formula version) for uncovered body areas, because I ain't spending that kind of money.
Bondi Sands stays quite greasy though, so I should find a different one. Maybe a Cancer Council matte one for the body that isn't expensive.
The tricky part is that body sunscreens are generally all water-resistant, meaning they're more greasy. At least greasiness on the body isn't as bothersome as the face.
WAIT, there's "Cancer Council SPF 50+ Face & Body Moisturiser Matte Finish 150ml", for 19 bux at Chemist Warehouse, and it's not the water-resistant version.
I'll be buying that shortly lol. Glad you commented.
Also ya don't want that shit on your palms. Awful. I bought spray-on sunscreen for the back of my hands, but then I realised that I am actually very dexterous with applying regular sunscreen just using the backs of my hands and avoiding the palms. I thought it would be all awkward and like rubbing 2 planks of wood together, but no not at all.
Oooohhh. Is that why some USA spf 30 sunscreens have label stuck over them with spf 15 on it for Aus? Thinking Paula's Choice face unscreen I bought online that came with sticker. Also CeraVe facial moisturiser.....15 here; 30 in USA. Glad we're rigorous with testing sunscreen as day 6 of 40 degree plus in Perth ends......
No. The reason these products are labelled as 'moisturiser with SPF 15' is to avoid classification as a therapeutic agent.
That way brands don't have to pay listing fees, don't have to manufacture in TGA-approved facilities, and can use any ingredient allowed in cosmetics rather than only the ingredients approved for use in therapeutic goods.
You can tell if a product is a therapeutic good by looking for a listing number (AUST L) or registration number (AUST R) on the product packaging.
The CeraVe SPF sold here is one of the European versions, which is very different to the version sold in the US. In Europe it is sold as broad spectrum SPF 25. While European broad spectrum requirements are the same, they have more options for how SPF can be tested.
@@rubysresource Thanks so much for clarifying that. Will now ensure I look for TGA identification. I did know CeraVe was European, owned by the L'Oreal mega company I think, so assumed they hadn't done the Aus testing here from Michelle's vid. Good to know!
@@kooltom4 to clarify, I don't think a product without a listing number is necessarily bad… and a listing number isn't a guarantee that the testing was done properly!
Ceraves facial moisturizer with SPF is supposed to be a morning/day lotion... Not a sunscreen. So using it you still have to layer on a sunscreen. And it is not marketed as a sunscreen but a lotion. I love CeraVe as a brand but I hate that AM moisturizer.
@@Alisha21210 I don't think that's correct. As long as you use the proper amount, "moisturizer with spf" is just as good as a dedicated sunscreen for daily use, all other things being equal. If you are going to be sweating a lot, getting wet, or doing something like a beach/waterpark day, you probably want a water-resistant proper sunscreen. But for everyday use, such as doing errands or going to work or school, a moisturizer with spf is just as good. Personally the generic version of the cerave AM is one of my favorites. It's a combo sunscreen so I get the best of both worlds, it doesn't pill or leave a white cast on me even though it's got zinc, and spf 30 is just fine for me for most of the year. The best sunscreen is the one you will want to wear every day, and I actually like putting that one on.
I’ve actually never heard that Australian sunscreen is the best in the world, but I also live in the EU lol.
I think that sunscreens in Europe are also treated as drugs
@@jasnamitrovic1650 No they aren't
Probably because skin cancer occurs the most in Australia and New Zealand.
Because it’s under a hole in the oz layer
Literally - kids in school in Aus aren't allowed to play outside unless they have a hat on
@@Bethan1545no idea who started that rumor but it’s not. The hole in the Ozone is over Antarctica.
With a (horrid and very efficient) flap @@raisaislam7482😊
Best Australian tinted mineral sunscreen- Naked Sunday’s SPF50+ collagen glow 100% mineral sunscreen 👌🏼
Another good Aussie brand is Ultraviolette
BEST AUSTRALIAN SPF50 VIDEO NEEDED ASAP ~ READY TO ORDER (reef safe and cosmetic elegance would be a shout too)
I love the cancer council sunscreen especially the face ones they're light feeling , the moisturising ones make my skin feel fantastic and they cost pretty alright.
If any of you live in Europe I would definitely recommend French sunscreens, but oddly enough, my favorite sunscreen so far is from Cetaphil, which is an American brand lol
The funny part is that if sunscreens are so great in Europe, how come there is much more skin cancer compared to the U.S. where we have sunnier days?
@@junedaisy707 cuz in Europe it's more homogeneous (White)
@@whitepouch0904 it proves the point that sunscreens is a small part of skin cancer prevention. There are so many people who are diligent in its usage, yet still get skin cancer. There are far many who don't wear it and never had cancer. It comes down to a person's genes
@@junedaisy707 you're comparing a continent to a country lmaoo
@@iversonlopez8538 the us is nearly the size of Europe so 🤷🏻♀️
Hi from Texas. I'm heading to the Cancer Council site because this all sounds very good to me. 😊
Thank you _so_ much Michelle for introducing me to Australian sunscreens!!! I finally found the best sunscreen for me (Cancer Research Council). And it's way cheaper than LRP, doesn't irritate my skin, and works so much better. 🥳
This is a relief because I used to get so worried that my sunscreen wasn’t enough whenever we went to swimming carnivals every year for like 7 hours straight in high school. Bought that spf 50 4 hours in water ofc
And good thing they are, since UV index in Australia is super high all year round!! 🥵
Even when it’s not hot, which can be a little deceptive.
When hubby goes home to OZ in a few months he has a long list of stuff to bring back. Aussie sunscreen is on the list!
I wish Australian sunscreens used the Boots Star UVA rating system though so you can get a more precise idea on how much UVA protection you’re getting, as opposed to 1/3 of the the UVB protection or more. And that they sold them in the USA.
The boots star rating system can be pretty confusing. Sometimes the product with the lower boots star rating actually has better UVA and UVB protection.
Like if you had one SPF 50+ broad spectrum sunscreen with test results SPF 100 UVAPF 35, it would have a lower boots star rating than an SPF 50+ broad spectrum sunscreen with test results SPF 60 UVAPF 30.
@@rubysresource right, it does require a little bit more math, what would be ideal would be to have the UVAPF rating as a standalone, but it’s the most transparent rating we have at the moment. The PA++++ is only UVAPF 16 or higher, which really doesn’t give a very good idea at all. The EU requiring it to be 1/3 of the UVB protection or above is better than the PA rating, but still not as precise boots star rating.
In Australia, the law is that a sunscreen listed as 'broad-spectrum' must have a minimum UVA protection of at least 1/3 of its SPF claim, e.g. a sunscreen labelled SPF50+ is estimated to filter 94% UVA radiation.
@@dachshundsdogs4407 The boots star rating gives the ratio of uva to uvb absorbance, that is not equal to the UVAPF/SPF ratio, boots is also measured at a different quantity 1.3mg/cm2 and only via an in-vitro method, in contrast to the regular in-vivo SPF test at 2mg/cm2. The boots ratio says very little in regards to the exact UVAPF value. Actually 3 boots stars is about equal to the 1/3 ratio in EU and AUS, the 1 and 2 boots stars were abolished since they didn't meet the EU 1/3 requirement.
@@peterkloostermann thank you, this is helpful. I try to use 5 star sunscreens when possible, but none of it is as clear as it ought to be. I think UVA-PF should just be shared as standard.
What are some of these brands? I can’t see from the video. I’m trying to be better about skincare so I’m definitely interested in picking some of these up
Bondi sands, ultra violet, cancer council
@@julianperez3587 thank you!!
@@berrykit Cancer council are good (in my opinion). I like that they have a range of different sunblocks to choose from, which is good because I hate the feeling and smell of most. They are also bringing out more tinted ones and lip balm ones, so I can get some makeup coverage from my 50spf sunblock
Cancer council is great, can recommend
@@kirstynmcleary4963can u recommend me any cancer council or tga approved sunscreen having the following properties
1)chemical one
2) water resistance
3) tinted
4) matte one
Another thing to mention. I think Spf below 15 is almost illegal in the EU. Due to climate change and the sun being stronger than ever, I remember hearing that sunscreens of 15spf and lower won't be sold or made anymore.
You still have the greatest amount of skin cancer, so I guess E.U. sunscreens aren't that good.
@@junedaisy707 I think it also stems from the fact in Europe there's a high culture of sunbathing. It's easy to see beaches in Italy filled with people sunbathing. And of course I can't remind all people to wear sunscreen. I don't get sunburnt that often because I always wear high protection since I'm as white and pale as a ghost can ever be. I might even be a vampire at this point. I once got sunburnt by staying under a gazebo all day whilst forgetting to put sunscreen.
I was hospitalized a lot as a kid and my skin reacts to literally everything that touches it except for mothereffing blue lizard. Thank god I dont have to import it anymore. It was like 50 dollars for a little bottle of it before they started selling it locally
I love the bondi sands sunscreen!
I've always struggled with sunscreens on my skin, but have found better luck with the cetaphil daily use!! Obv if I was going out to the beach, it's a cancer Council approved brand, but for everyday use cetaphil has been quite comfortable!
I'd also like brands to be able to make claims about UVA protection above the minimum here like they can in Europe - that'd create an incentive for sunscreens primarily for the Australian market to go above and beyond.
I'd like that too, but at the same time there isn't an agreed upon measurement for UVA so it might lead to unfair comparisons (which is the justification for not allowing it I think).
I started the Bondi sand after watching your videos..... thank you
That cancer council matte sunscreen is the literal BEST! Affordable and provides great protection whilst staying matte abd not all greasy under makeup, works well with all of the foundations I have used it with.
Please if you ever have time please make a full video on this with the best Australian sunscreens that you recommend!! ♥️♥️
I found myself getting a weird skin reaction to all of the cancer council sunscreens when I was in Sydney. Couldn’t really figure out why but didn’t have it with my (eu) Avene one. Obviously doesn’t apply to everyone/all products, just figured there was something in there disagreeing with me
@@michelc1200 she never denied that at all, so idk why you're criticizing her
@@camibabyy late, but read it again just in case. She never was criticizing her, she was sharing her experience w the sunscreen. That's all.
I just got the Bondi sands sunscreen and I’m really liking it
God I love these videos , so sharp and to the point. Thank you
Thank you so much!
i have this exact ultra violette sunscreen and i like it a lot
Is there a site where US consumers can purchase Australian sunscreens?
Chemist Warehouse is the only place I know of. Currently they only offer express shipping, which starts at about 21USD and goes up according to total weight of your order.
You can also get some of the same La Roche-Posay sunscreens from Europe or Mexico.
Amazon?
Ebay
Cancer Council is my favorite sunscreen brand 😘😘😘
Hi Michelle:) I know this video is a year old, but could you please address how Korean and Japanese sunscreens compare to Australian sunscreens in this aspect? I’d love to know if they’re fairly comparable:) Thank you!!🙏❤
Sunscreen here has to be this good because you only have to be in the sun for less three minutes to get burnt!
I went outside to take some photos one, came back inside and was red all over my face and shoulders. So painful 😭
My fave sunscreen to date is a generic drugstore brand from Australia, that I stocked up on when I visited there end of 2019 🇦🇺. I should start seeing how much it would be to import these to the U.S., as I’ve finished up my stockpile.
I understand that chemist warehouse ships internationally. I don’t know rates as I don’t need international shipping
May I know the name of this sunscreen?
@@symphonyj2429 I know there was a Q in the brand, and it’s a very generic no fragrance, mineral sunscreen. They make a lot of basic, no fragrance drugstore items, such as soap, too. I’m trying to see if my mom or another relative still has a bottle of this elusive fave of mine, cuz I can’t remember off the top of my head anymore.
@@20newleigh thank you for replying. Pls do update if you find the name.
@@symphonyj2429 Coles have a brand one for face and one for body that Lab Muffin had as an honourable mention. Face one is about $6.00 ...it can make your face quite shiny though however if you use makeup I usually press abit of powder overtop before applying foundation.
Becoz they have a ozone holeee in the skyyyyy they need to have best sunscreen
I know Australian sunscreen are the best because I'm a redhead who needs sunscreen in the 80s. In South America . Australian sunscreen were the only one that actually worked not even Vichy worked for me.
I really don't like Australian sunscreen but I use it anyway. It sticks to my skin like a suction cup... I have to scrub it off with a loofah 😂. I kid you not!
I'm not sure if they are as good, but I started using the "aerosol" ones, because even the sprays were driving me nuts
Aussie here…Ego sunsmart is pretty good - use it on body also
I use French brand Avene for face
So interesting! Question: where is the best place to buy Australian sunscreens in Canada?
If you're going to splurge, ultraviolette ships to Canada directly.
-For the cheaper brands, Chemist Warehouse is the only place I know of. Currently they only offer express shipping, which starts at about 26CAD and goes up according to total weight of your order.-
You can also get some of the same La Roche-Posay sunscreens from Europe or Mexico.
@@rubysresource Did you buy sunscreen from them in Canada? I want to buy some, but I do not see an option to get it shipped to Canada.
@@Sebastian-xy3xk oh you're right… their shipping info page still mentions Canada but the option is gone from checkout 🤔
LOVE THIS
My favorite at the moment is South Korean...but I also use Australian
This was so good watching ty ☺️
😍😍😍 I didnt know!!! Headed shopping now
Can you suggest some lightweight oil free Australian sunscreen with a SPF of at least 35 that is on the cheaper side.
Thank you for this information
Your videos are brilliant! Thank you so much! I was wondering, have you seen Odile Monode's videos on K-beauty? There's another brilliant "skin-care nerd" with a different perspective. I hope you watch her. I believe a collaboration between the two of you would be great!
Love her content!
Can you showcase your favorite one for oily skin and how the white cast is?❤️
Have you ever tried Japanese sunscreen vs Australian? I love to see how it goes 🎉
What about korean and japanese sunscreens?
I'm speaking to you as someone who lives in Asia. Most Asian countries don't even have any rules regarding SPF testing. Most products that are considered safe are sold over-the-counter, and labels have a freedom to label their products with any SPF numbers that they want to advertise, even if the products don't contain any UV filters at all. Japan is currently the only country that has strict rules regarding SPF testing. South Korea is following behind after the SPF scandal that happened in 2020. In my country, trusted brands test their sunscreens in Australia and France/Germany. International brands usually sell the same sunscreens that they sell in other countries because they don't want to hurt their own reputation by selling sunscreens with fake SPF numbers.
Yey! Hi from Australia! The sunburnt country 🧑🌾
Hi Michelle 💕 Can you recommend a good alcohol and fragrance free sunscreen for dry skin? I love Ultra Violette supreme screen but since I’ve started using tretinoin, the alcohol has been stinging my skin. I’ve since switched to Canmake mermaid skin but worried the SPF isn’t as well formulated for Australian summers. Thanks so much! 😘
I was sensitive to Supreme Screen, and decided to try my luck with Queen Screen. I have oily skin and am generally sensitive to chemical sunscreens. But I’ve had no problems with Queen Screen, and it’s my new fave.
@@leather_bath Thanks lovely! I’m so glad it’s working for you. I can’t deal with the fragrance in Queen Screen - it makes my face itch 😂 I think tret has really limited the sunscreens I can use.
Quick! Someone tell me all the names and tell me where I can get them in the US!
This!
@@skincarewithaustin ah, she probably has a video on the subject someplace...I'd order several as I live in California
You can buy Ultra Violette ( the blue tube one in her hand) on Cult beauty, which is based in UK and ship internationally.
@@mmmmia934 thanks for the tip! I’ve been using Dr Jart chemical sunscreen and it’s the best one I tried so far and I tried many
My favourite is cancer council, it’s good sunblock and the proceeds go towards cancer research. They also have a whole range of different sunblock to suit different needs, so I regularly use a combination of about 4 of my favourites to coat myself.
I believe chemist warehouse will ship it internationally.
Michelle, would love information about best sunscreens for babies please! 🙏🏻
I visited America when i was 12, i was so amazed by the 85+ spf sunscreen... and then i got sunburnt anyway
Probably because you didn’t apply enough, you need to apply every two hours and a solid amount.
Please do more Australian sunscreen of physical and chemical sunscreen
I've been to cities that never close down from New York to Rio and old London town ;) jokes apart they are not just good but also on the cheap compared to EU products. How would you place Korean sunscreens compared to EU and AUS spfs?
i love the daylong extreme it's the bomb
I always wondered about this
Thanks for sharing!
Lol never heard that🤷🏾♀️ And I’m Norwegian and only use Japanese sunscreens with and SPF of 50 minimum.
Hello, love you work labmuffin. Quick question can you get the newer filters e.g. Tinosorb, Uvinal, Mexoryl etc. in Australia?
MORE PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW ABOUT THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes indeed because Australian sun is DEADLY!!
Love my Australia 🇦🇺
All right. And how about Australian sunscreen vs Korean ones ?
And here I was, planning to bring my big bottle of opened sunscreen for my Australian holiday... lol I guess I need to buy from there and bring it home instead~
Informative pl share the link for best Australian sunscreens.
Thanks girl usefull to know
MORE PEOPLE SHOULD SEE THIS
What is the best Australian sunscreen I can get in the USA
I always thought it was weird how Americans would always say it’s both UVA/UVB protective because I didn’t realise that just wasn’t automatic as it is in Australia
Do you have any recommendations for darker skin tones? It's hard to find any.
Cancer Council is pretty good if you're Aussie. I'm IV on the Fitzpatrick scale and there's no white cast apart from the initial application.
My interest is piqued! Please make a longer video all about Australian sunscreens and some product recommendations.
I've been wanting to try Australian sunscreens, but I'm not sure of the best sites from which to order them. Right now, I primarily use European sunscreen but do like the prospect of even stronger water-resistance.
Chemist Warehouse ships to many overseas locations and stocks a range of Aussie sunscreens :)
@@monn1908 Thank you ! I will most definitely be giving them a look 😊
Damn I wish i could have access to this and hopefully it helps on clinging on skin when I sweat a lot
Because people only talk about the anti aging aspects of vitamin c derivatives i don't know which derivatives work for skin brightening 😭
Personally, I think Japanese sunscreens are the best. They’re have a more watery jell like consistency and their chemical filters are much more stable and don’t burn or sting my eyes.
Some affordable recommendations please 🙏
It doesn't help that aussie and nz have a harsher sun due to the ozone over here being weaker
Oops! Please check recent resurch that showed your sunscreen can be reason for baldness.
Okay now find me an an Australian sunscreen that doesn't burn my eyes or make my skin itch please
Try cancer council uv matte fluid, the only one that doesn’t burn my eyes
I have the same problem with lots of sunscreens. Ego Sunsense and Ego QV do some fantastic ones that I never have an allergic reaction to
Hey Michelle , i know this is off topic but can you make a video on Azaleic acid?
Such a good idea not to reinvent the wheel.
"Regulations from every other Country and smosh them together."
I need a sunscreen for dark skin. Maybe a tinted SPF 50 to take the place of makeup.
Any suggestions?
I would check out "black girl sunscreen", it's formulated with darker skin tones in mind. I'm white, but I borrowed this sunscreen once and it was really nice. I'm not sure if they carry tinted SPF tho, the one I tried was clear on both my friend and I.
@@lisamucci6950 I checked their Inkey List. Not good. I found CōTZ Tinted Complexion SPF 50. Perfect match.
Now I’m wondering what are the regulations of my country’s sunscreens 🤔 I know we have some pretty great lightweight formulas, but it never crossed my mind these types of regulation details.
I learned to love sunscreens late, but now I love them. I wonder if I can buy Australian sunscreen in Germany. 🤔 I want the max protect. I wonder why companies all over the world just do the bare minimum, if there are expirienced companies with better solutions. Do you have to reapply it in Australia? THE European ones need to be reapplied every 4ish hours when in sun. It's a little frustrating.
Our labelling laws make all sunscreens say to reapply frequently, which is probably sensible - unless it has special technology in it that's been tested like Evy, I would reapply every couple of hours if I'm exposed to the sun.
The cancer council still recommends reapplying every 2 - 4 hours. But they also have a wonderful free app that will remind me when to apply, let’s me know the UV levels (as there are times it’s better to just avoid the sun) and even gives you a rough estimate of how much you need to apply on each person.
We like to avoid skin cancer and so put a lot into research and education about sun protection. Even our early childhood services and schools have strict rules around sun protection and many supply sunblock and hats to ensure everyone is adequately protected.
It would be nice to see the rest of the world have similar cares about sun damage.
How do Australian sunscreens do against Korean and Japanese sunscreens?
Can I dilute the percentage of cream based tretinoin with Vaseline? If i measure both parts and mix it well enough it should be okay right?
Yes you can! I like the idea of Vaseline as it has just one ingredient. You could also use any moisturizer to dilute the tretinoin cream, but i would recommend to use a moisturizer with minimal ingredients! I'm not as decorated as the Australian goddess, but I have a BS in chemical engineering from the USA 😀
Do they use filters that sting your eyes? I live in the US but buy Japanese or Korean sunscreens because the chemical filters in the US ALWAYS burn and sting my eyes.
The sun in Tasmania is deadly. Its not even that hot there but burns you to a crsip💀
Aussie sunscreen rocks. I was in Australia on holiday and went swimming with sharks, was out for 6 hours. Applied it twice in the day and got NO sunburns
Which one you applied?
They absolutely should be tested against drug regulations they literally prevent skin cancer and the kind of ageing that costs thousands to correct through cosmetic surgery it’s stupid that any old thing can be called and used as an spf when it just isn’t
Interesting, thanks. Just one question - do the Australian testing rules only apply to Australian brands, or to any sunscreen that is sold on Australian shelves?
Every sunscreen sold in Australia. It’s why there are noticeable differences in labelling with sunscreens from multinational companies.
I blame superior sunscreen on mandatory voting. Boy I wish we had it here.
Mandatory voting and superior sunblock are pretty awesome, we are pretty lucky in Aus
fyi I think bondi sands uses the unregulated chemical filter you talked about in previous video in their physical sunscreen
the problem with aus/nz is that they only need to provide he active ingredients in the ingredient list. I found only found this by looking at the fda aproval for it.
Australia also has strict regulations in agriculture. I feel safe consuming Australian anything edible. But the sunscreen is just too heavy for the humid and warm climate in my country.