This was an article in Motor Trend or Hot Rod in the early '90's! I have the magazine stashed somewhere. There was a then new IH in yellow after it rollong on aircraft rubber.
Those were good times. I worked for Carl towards the end alongside Kenny and Dan. Carl was a master of many things but reading a pattern on differential gears would blow your mind. Luckily, I learned all I could in the couple years working at Carl’s 4x4, the sticker is still on my tool box. Thanks for throwing this video up. 👍🏻
Personally, I've always Disliked the sound of either the Series 71 or the 92 V8's... with the center outlet exhaust manifolds... very "tinny" sounding, compared to most all of our other exhaust manifold designs.
@@4sl648..... Thank you for your reply. True, due to two (6, counting 4 for Marine apps.) different compression ratios... but the shape / design, and exhaust port outlet location, makes the biggest difference. Rear mounted turbocharged engines (DD) sound nearly as deep (Series 92) as a NA engine with side ports at the rear. Series 92 engines using the Volute design manifolds on the Turbocharged version, can be flipped upside down and reversed from to opposite sides on either series of NA engines, and sound deep and throaty as well.... depending on rotation and firing order. Back in the 1970's, International Trucks ordered Center outlet manifolds for all our NA V8 engines, for use in their COE 4070A Transtars.... Why?, I don't know... they were the Only manufacturer of Class 8 trucks to do so... and I never like the sound of them, either... very "tinny", especially with the series 71 at the time. It's also interesting though, that IH did Not order Center Outlets for the COE 7090 Series, which had our V12 in them as an option, and all NA and at reduced power levels, either 390hp or 434hp with green tag N55 and N60 injectors. What they did, do wrong though... was installed a Single 6" diameter intake system, from the inlet at the top of the cab... all the way to both scavenging blowers, and to top that design flaw, off.... they installed a 4" exhaust system with very restrictive mufflers (they did, at least.. use a dual setup) that would have been much more suited to a an old "J" Series Cummins or a 180hp NHC Cummins. Owner operators (and small fleet owners) were bad mouthing the V12 for burnt valves in as little as 35K miles.... it wasn't the engine, it was IH and their very poorly designed Intake and Exhaust systems for the 12.
Always had a blast with you guys out there. Sure miss Karl and Jim. That was the best part of Bonneville and when you all would stop in Klamath on the way. Thanks for posting man. Brings back some great times.
In 1976 Slagle brought his 53 Series to the tractor pull in Redding Ca. I was repairing a truck at the Cottonwood scales and Slagel went through the scales with his "bat wing" KW custom Cummins and twin sticks. He made his speed up and exit sound like a well oiled sewing machine. A perfect marriage of man and machine, so smooth.
Yeah, he needs to make that street legal and REALLY have some fun rolling coal. Picture him doing that passing a group of bicyclists taking up half the road.
The Phoenix, Bob,Carl great people great machine,great team! Lets not forget those Bronco 4x4's built by Carl. I remember Carl after breaking an axle in the dark,on the Oregon coast dunes limping back to camp and the next morning he walked around the campground looking for a suitable donor vehicle and talking the owner of that Bronco into loaning him an axle so he could run the dunes one more day! You just could not say no to Carl. RIP
Those exhaust stacks create a lot of drag. The gasses coming out act like a solid extension of the pipe. Aviation racers learned that, exhaust the gasses parallel to the local airflow. Beautiful truck!!
Saw it run in 2002. LUVVED it. All the way from Oz for the NSRA Nats, Louisville, making our way to Bonneville. Well worth the exhorbitant cost of return ticket from Lax to SL City. ( At the time the conversion was US 50.5 cents to the Oz dollar. Once in a lifetime experience.
Thanks for sharing Cody as I had a blast when I did get there to see Carl run in 2001 with my dad Walt McCormick. A lot of great memories in GP at the shop being a kid and watching and listening.
Optimal air/fuel ratio for a diesel 16:1 air to fuel. It starts to produce smoke at 18:1 ratio. To get max power there is going to be smoke. Diesels aren't really tuned by air to fuel ratio. Nitrous will clean the smoke up but no smoke means you can probably add more fuel.
Thanks for uploading this video hope to see more in the future I Am a local to gp I remember this truck back in the early days when I was a teenager with rb and carl
30 years ago they told me it was the worlds fastest manure spreader, but one of the crew laughed and said it had been a logtruck. One if the last civilian trucks made before the shift to war production. Two turbos each side, feeding two superchargers down the center (just like his puller trucks), had trouble doing much over 200 without the tires shredding themselves, looks like they have better ones now!
@@CodyHeap480there were some runs with lesser vehicles on f-16 tires, too, but great to hear about the new skins. Meanwhile, what about the chained 2:1 overdrive on the axle? That the art dix gearbox you mentioned?
This was back in 2003 and sadly it was the last run my grandpa would ever make as he passed away from cancer shortly after. Maybe one day with enough money and time my dad and I can bring it back to the salt once again!
It's not reving that high, it only sounds like it is because its a 2-stroke Detroit. Twice as many combustion events as a 4 stroke so it sounds like its spinning twice as fast as it actually is.
I had the pleasure of watching this truck run for most its years. I broke or blew up,more times than I can count. The push vehicle was the most awesome one the sat has ever seen…
How much fuel did it burn and I'd love to see a graph of its overall gains as the weight of the fuel drops, that looked like a ton of coal was burnt for the run.
Gale Banks actually got my grandpa bigger turbos for the truck, but they were so big they didn’t really light up till like halfway down the track so my grandpa went back to the smaller turbos (still massive lol)
@ haha I know that’s right, when the interview started I was like great “I can’t hear nothing🤣” but it got better. I’m assuming you are related to someone in the video Mr Heap?
@@johnthegiant320.... they did not work out well though... due to other "mis-matching" in the engine.... plus being a 2 cycle, which Gale does not have a lot of hands on experience with.... and certainly no R&D time with them.
I think you should include some more and louder background noise so we can even less. Watched for as long as it took to tap this txt. Then clicked out.
Too much smoke .. Some Water/Methanal Injection would help. I can assume Nitrous Oxide would help. They should convert the engine to burning Methanol, The Tractor pullers do it all of the time.
CODY HEAP480.... If i remember correctly, when Bob first ran this truck at Bonneville, didn't have a V12 (series 71) in it?? The 16 you have in it now... is a series 92 ??
@@CodyHeap480.... Thank you for your fast reply, I do appreciate it, and stand corrected on whoever owned and ran the K-7 International on the Salt, back in the 60's and 70's. Then, who was it that had the K7 International with the V12 mounted "mid-ship", back in the 1960's/70's?? Any idea, at all? I thought it was Bob Slagle, and that it "evolved" from there to what it is now, over the years. No? Is the 16, a series71 or 92 ??
@@andyharman3022.... that is a nice Dream, but in real time practicality... a 20 cylinder 149 would Crush the "Pheonix" in both, outer physical size and the sheer weight of it. Also, Stewart & Stevenson only built a very limited number of them for us. The radiator alone, that is required for sufficient cooling, is far larger than Carl's truck is.
@@CodyHeap480.... My mistake, I re-watched the video... I had somehow missed where the total displacement (1472ci) was mentioned. Of course it's not really a V12 (only the Series 71 - V12 was actually "clean sheeted") of course, just a modular V6 x 2 with their redundant systems for the most part, including their separate V6 firing orders, unlike the Series71 engine. None the less, they all (DD's) are Amazing engines that are capable of producing the power and torque that they do, on such an extremely short "power stroke". Other than being emissions compliant (so far.. til 2027), about the Only thing the 4 cycles have going for them, is much higher piston speed for equivalent rpms (at 1800 to 2100 crank speed in "automotive" applications).... which does result in better holding (lugging) power of the torque produced, compared to the 2 cycles, even though the hp and torque numbers can be nearly identical... though the 2 cycles generally produce a much flatter (broader) torque curve, than their 4 cycle comparatives, do.
@@wifeswapperbg7 the rear gear ratio is 1.77 to 1 with a semi automatic type air shift 4 speed transmission. 3rd is 1 to 1 and 4th gear is the overdrive, but my grandpa never got up to a speed where 4th was necessary. Maybe around 300 would be 4th gear. There was still a lot of improvements that could have been made to the truck, but my grandpa passed away so that stuff never got accomplished.
They added the small front wing to balance the aero changes they made in the rear. Since they're only going for top speed, they have to eliminate drag as much as possible, and wings add drag.
They would have done more aero if my grandpa was able to continue developing the truck but he passed away shortly after this last run. Maybe someday my dad and I will take it back out on the salt once again.
FF to 8:00 for just the run. For those of you who are complaining about the quality of the video I’m not the original creator I found this DVD.
And 5:48 to see the rig.
This was an article in Motor Trend or Hot Rod in the early '90's! I have the magazine stashed somewhere. There was a then new IH in yellow after it rollong on aircraft rubber.
what was return run and the average of the 2 runs ?
Not enough.
Those were good times. I worked for Carl towards the end alongside Kenny and Dan. Carl was a master of many things but reading a pattern on differential gears would blow your mind. Luckily, I learned all I could in the couple years working at Carl’s 4x4, the sticker is still on my tool box. Thanks for throwing this video up. 👍🏻
The sound of the push truck is the best part for me!
@@cmsracing I’m glad you liked that 8v92 sound !
Personally, I've always Disliked the sound of either the Series 71 or the 92 V8's... with the center outlet exhaust manifolds... very "tinny" sounding, compared to most all of our other exhaust manifold designs.
@@Romans--bo7br turbo or not made a big difference too.
@@4sl648..... Thank you for your reply. True, due to two (6, counting 4 for Marine apps.) different compression ratios... but the shape / design, and exhaust port outlet location, makes the biggest difference. Rear mounted turbocharged engines (DD) sound nearly as deep (Series 92) as a NA engine with side ports at the rear.
Series 92 engines using the Volute design manifolds on the Turbocharged version, can be flipped upside down and reversed from to opposite sides on either series of NA engines, and sound deep and throaty as well.... depending on rotation and firing order.
Back in the 1970's, International Trucks ordered Center outlet manifolds for all our NA V8 engines, for use in their COE 4070A Transtars.... Why?, I don't know... they were the Only manufacturer of Class 8 trucks to do so... and I never like the sound of them, either... very "tinny", especially with the series 71 at the time.
It's also interesting though, that IH did Not order Center Outlets for the COE 7090 Series, which had our V12 in them as an option, and all NA and at reduced power levels, either 390hp or 434hp with green tag N55 and N60 injectors.
What they did, do wrong though... was installed a Single 6" diameter intake system, from the inlet at the top of the cab... all the way to both scavenging blowers, and to top that design flaw, off.... they installed a 4" exhaust system with very restrictive mufflers (they did, at least.. use a dual setup) that would have been much more suited to a an old "J" Series Cummins or a 180hp NHC Cummins.
Owner operators (and small fleet owners) were bad mouthing the V12 for burnt valves in as little as 35K miles.... it wasn't the engine, it was IH and their very poorly designed Intake and Exhaust systems for the 12.
I don’t know why, but the interviewees, push trucks and video itself really feels like it’s the 90s. I love it!
Always had a blast with you guys out there. Sure miss Karl and Jim. That was the best part of Bonneville and when you all would stop in Klamath on the way. Thanks for posting man. Brings back some great times.
In 1976 Slagle brought his 53 Series to the tractor pull in Redding Ca. I was repairing a truck at the Cottonwood scales and Slagel went through the scales with his "bat wing" KW custom Cummins and twin sticks. He made his speed up and exit sound like a well oiled sewing machine. A perfect marriage of man and machine, so smooth.
Thanks for putting this footage up, glad you found it.
I would love to see that in person! 🎉
Being well to do and having a lot of spare time must be awesome! Good health to y'all
I think I’m more interested in the screamin Detroit powered pusher truck. That thing is awesome.
for sure :), big 2 stroke fan myself :)
The Pride of Grants Pass❤
Thanks Cody for putting up this footage. Brings back great memories of those times at Bonneville. The 480 crew was the best of the best.
Glad you enjoyed it
@@CodyHeap480 I've got a bunch of old photos from 1989 when the truck was just a cab and engine up through 2003.
Best rolling coal video ever
Detroit Diesel is the best 🎉
Yeah, he needs to make that street legal and REALLY have some fun rolling coal. Picture him doing that passing a group of bicyclists taking up half the road.
What a cool , smooth ,bad ass truck!
The Phoenix, Bob,Carl great people great machine,great team! Lets not forget those Bronco 4x4's built by Carl. I remember Carl after breaking an axle in the dark,on the Oregon coast dunes limping back to camp and the next morning he walked around the campground looking for a suitable donor vehicle and talking the owner of that Bronco into loaning him an axle so he could run the dunes one more day! You just could not say no to Carl. RIP
As the trucks were approaching the camera that almost sounded like a large aircraft getting ready to take off
Those exhaust stacks create a lot of drag. The gasses coming out act like a solid extension of the pipe. Aviation racers learned that, exhaust the gasses parallel to the local airflow. Beautiful truck!!
Saw it run in 2002. LUVVED it. All the way from Oz for the NSRA Nats, Louisville, making our way to Bonneville. Well worth the exhorbitant cost of return ticket from Lax to SL City. ( At the time the conversion was US 50.5 cents to the Oz dollar. Once in a lifetime experience.
Thanks for seeing Carl again.
Thanks for sharing Cody as I had a blast when I did get there to see Carl run in 2001 with my dad Walt McCormick. A lot of great memories in GP at the shop being a kid and watching and listening.
That’s awesome!
What a trick and fun build.
I remember shooting the breeze with Carl, Bert Beck and Ray Wassom in Gold Hill years ago..now they're all gone😢
That is a ton of fuel not burning!
and lots of potential power going out the exhaust unused.
Optimal air/fuel ratio for a diesel 16:1 air to fuel. It starts to produce smoke at 18:1 ratio. To get max power there is going to be smoke. Diesels aren't really tuned by air to fuel ratio. Nitrous will clean the smoke up but no smoke means you can probably add more fuel.
We all cant wait to see the rig you build and tune to set the record..........
@@skooootZexactly
I was flashing back to "Buckaroo Banzai" waiting for them to engage the Oscillation Overthruster.
Thanks for uploading this video hope to see more in the future I Am a local to gp I remember this truck back in the early days when I was a teenager with rb and carl
That’s awesome I love hearing local stories like this ! 😊
I had flash backs of water injection of a B52
Thanks for using the k model international my dad had a fleet of the k5 k6 and k8 with the 456 red diamond gas engine classic truck shape I love it❤
U need gale banks to tune that beast
Congrats! I would like to see that stats on that pusher truck as well. Holy Cow!
Same
That's wicked fast. Holy shit
Greta would love this, that's a whole bunch of how dare you's.
peg fan spotted
She wasn't old enough to even know what was happening, her parents should of took her here to get some diesel pumping thru her! Lol
LMFAO 😅😅😅
30 years ago they told me it was the worlds fastest manure spreader, but one of the crew laughed and said it had been a logtruck. One if the last civilian trucks made before the shift to war production. Two turbos each side, feeding two superchargers down the center (just like his puller trucks), had trouble doing much over 200 without the tires shredding themselves, looks like they have better ones now!
Yeah this was the last run back in 2003 but a lot changed from when they started that’s for sure!
They looked like aircraft landing gear tires.
@@andyharman3022 they are, 747 tires on the back and 707 tires on the front with some of the tread shaved down so they don’t expand at speed
@@CodyHeap480there were some runs with lesser vehicles on f-16 tires, too, but great to hear about the new skins. Meanwhile, what about the chained 2:1 overdrive on the axle? That the art dix gearbox you mentioned?
Wow you can almost watch the environment cry except it's blocked by that big ass cloud of box smoke. I love fast cars but damn man.
good on you to mention sponsors/they pay the bills
Yeah, that air tool noise in the background is annoying, but given the history being made in the video, it's OK with me.
That was a funny looking snow plow on the front of that truck.😁😁😁
Longest push in Bonneville history!
Brilliant .... First run ., And the Pusher Truck ;) WOW .
Can you get the camera any closer to their faces? I can't quite count his cavities.
Looks like a WW2 navy smoke screen . Beautiful . Congrats .
That white Detroit diesel ❤❤🔊🎵🎶
I’m glad they invented LI-ON batteries and brushless motors. Lord those air tools are annoying when you were trying to hear somebody talk.
Roger that! I no longer have air power tools.
Unfortunately battery is weak and unreliable, if you had some common sense lol
@@GoldVP...Wrong
@@MindofMatter lol and you're aware the damage to earth, making your useless lithium ion battery, creates? Or are you one of those blind libs????
How fast was the Phoenix going when the pusher truck cut off from him?
Thing sounds like a crop duster going down through there looks like one two
Why did they stop running? They had 300 in the crosshairs!
This was back in 2003 and sadly it was the last run my grandpa would ever make as he passed away from cancer shortly after. Maybe one day with enough money and time my dad and I can bring it back to the salt once again!
Go greta go
How dare you! 😷
Cody, thanks for sharing the video.
Thanks for watching!
Great job
Not sure what you mean, it takes a lot of time to get 18,000+ lbs up to almost 300 miles per hour
@CodyHeap480 oh sorry I will remove my post thanks for update
Because it's there, thats why.
Greta needs to see this ha ha ha ha
Awesome truck !!
Super Kool
I’m glad to see everyone was concerned about pollution. 😳 go green!
Doing your part for air quality!
Do you think you could have interviewed the dude without the alr tool in the background?
Thats awesome you guys keep going
Man that push truck was impressive in it's own right. All the rpms
It's not reving that high, it only sounds like it is because its a 2-stroke Detroit. Twice as many combustion events as a 4 stroke so it sounds like its spinning twice as fast as it actually is.
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How many Priuses did that just cancel out? LOL
All of them... 👍🏼🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂
Yup. All of em. With killer style at that!!
Not enough, imho.
None, they cancel themselves out.
I had the pleasure of watching this truck run for most its years. I broke or blew up,more times than I can count. The push vehicle was the most awesome one the sat has ever seen…
WOW.......that's really.......🤣🤣😂😂😆😆🤭🤭🤔🤔🤔🤔😖😖😖😖😈😈😈😈😈💀💀☠☠☠
How much fuel did it burn and I'd love to see a graph of its overall gains as the weight of the fuel drops, that looked like a ton of coal was burnt for the run.
gale banks made a video about excess smoke but I guess this is an entirely different deal. still, I wouldn't bet against Banks being right.
Turn's out you make more power by combusting your fuel in the engine, who would've known....
@@turdferguson9190but theres always unused air in diesel engine, you get some of that used when you are wasting some fuel into smoke.
@@V8Lennyhow do you avoid unused air, when the exhaust valves only cycle while the intake port is exposed?
@@andrewmcbain4119 no different from 4 stroke, diesels always waste air.
Gale Banks actually got my grandpa bigger turbos for the truck, but they were so big they didn’t really light up till like halfway down the track so my grandpa went back to the smaller turbos (still massive lol)
That is amazing, what a piece of work!!!
Didn't know Art Dick made gear boxes, they're just down the road here.👍
I think I saw the land speed record attempt for a bicycle somewhere in the rolling coal.
WAY COOL!!!
Thanks very much..
Would have been heeps better with more than one camera.
Thanks again..
Wow what a great sounding DYE GRINDER!!!!
@@earlytaylor i’m glad that battery powered electric tools have been invented since then haha
@ haha I know that’s right, when the interview started I was like great “I can’t hear nothing🤣” but it got better. I’m assuming you are related to someone in the video Mr Heap?
@ yep I’m Carl Heaps Grandson, I recently found this video in a stack of DVDs that my dad had and decided to post it online so everyone can see it.
I can picture "The Phoenix" screaming across the flats w/Mad Max and his dog in hot pursuit in the "Interceptor" !!
Gretta is going to have a field day with the how dare you.
Which brand of die grinder is their sponsor?
lol, I wish the videographer would have got them out of the pit area to do the interview, but I’m glad this video of my grandpa exists at all.
That was some serious rolling coal, enough to offend at least 50% of the world!!
Nice to see old "69" pushing!!
Late for work. It would be nice to drive every day. More like flying.
Que maravilla de máquina americana....
cool ass looking truck. Waiting for Gale banks to do a review. LOL
Gale worked with my grandpa on it actually. He got some even bigger turbos for it.
@CodyHeap480 that's awesome!
@@johnthegiant320.... they did not work out well though... due to other "mis-matching" in the engine.... plus being a 2 cycle, which Gale does not have a lot of hands on experience with.... and certainly no R&D time with them.
I think the jerk with the air sander/grinder is just messing around. Doesn't sound like it ever had a load on it
That just sounds angry at idle. I love it!
Thats actually to prevent a runaway condition that Detroit’s are known for, it runs up and down always changing the rpm.
Long live Detroit diesel. Beautiful
No on boards? Only one or two stationary cameras tracking the run? Oh well, at least it was some really fast black smoke moving down track. I guess …
@@johnmartlew5897 this was shot in 2003 and was kinda last minute from what I understand so no special camera work or shots were captured.
How dare you!!!
Gale Banks would flip shit over all that unnecessary smoke.
I'm not sure who would be crying more Gale Banks, baby Jesus or Greta Thunberg.
And rightly so, it's a sign of inefficient burn. I love seeing it though
Good old Detroit motor!!!
I think you should include some more and louder background noise so we can even less.
Watched for as long as it took to tap this txt. Then clicked out.
16V924T
Thanks, I was guessing a 12V92… holy schitt thats’a lotta engine!
Well more of a 16v92TTTT haha
Environmentally friendly.
Why are all the mechanics grinding something with air tools?
@4:35 Dude. Add an RC electric chassis, you could set the speed record for RC. They're serious about that, too.
2koolsville!!!!!! & Dig da pinstriping....
Pusher will hit 250! Ag diesel?
What would happen if he could get better combustion?
Complete disruption of the space-time continuum.
Seems to be running a tad rich.
What Ever, gives you THAT, idea??
WOW!!
Heck of a push rig.
thats niceeee
Too much smoke .. Some Water/Methanal Injection would help. I can assume Nitrous Oxide would help. They should convert the engine to burning Methanol, The Tractor pullers do it all of the time.
Too much fuel she aint burnin!
CODY HEAP480.... If i remember correctly, when Bob first ran this truck at Bonneville, didn't have a V12 (series 71) in it?? The 16 you have in it now... is a series 92 ??
Yes. He said 1472 cubic inches, so that would be a 16V-92
I'm waiting for someone to step up with a 20V-149.
The truck always had a 16v92 from the beginning
@@CodyHeap480.... Thank you for your fast reply, I do appreciate it, and stand corrected on whoever owned and ran the K-7 International on the Salt, back in the 60's and 70's. Then, who was it that had the K7 International with the V12 mounted "mid-ship", back in the 1960's/70's?? Any idea, at all? I thought it was Bob Slagle, and that it "evolved" from there to what it is now, over the years. No? Is the 16, a series71 or 92 ??
@@andyharman3022.... that is a nice Dream, but in real time practicality... a 20 cylinder 149 would Crush the "Pheonix" in both, outer physical size and the sheer weight of it. Also, Stewart & Stevenson only built a very limited number of them for us. The radiator alone, that is required for sufficient cooling, is far larger than Carl's truck is.
@@CodyHeap480.... My mistake, I re-watched the video... I had somehow missed where the total displacement (1472ci) was mentioned. Of course it's not really a V12 (only the Series 71 - V12 was actually "clean sheeted") of course, just a modular V6 x 2 with their redundant systems for the most part, including their separate V6 firing orders, unlike the Series71 engine.
None the less, they all (DD's) are Amazing engines that are capable of producing the power and torque that they do, on such an extremely short "power stroke".
Other than being emissions compliant (so far.. til 2027), about the Only thing the 4 cycles have going for them, is much higher piston speed for equivalent rpms (at 1800 to 2100 crank speed in "automotive" applications).... which does result in better holding (lugging) power of the torque produced, compared to the 2 cycles, even though the hp and torque numbers can be nearly identical... though the 2 cycles generally produce a much flatter (broader) torque curve, than their 4 cycle comparatives, do.
First gear must be direct and everything after that are OD ratios
@@wifeswapperbg7 the rear gear ratio is 1.77 to 1 with a semi automatic type air shift 4 speed transmission. 3rd is 1 to 1 and 4th gear is the overdrive, but my grandpa never got up to a speed where 4th was necessary. Maybe around 300 would be 4th gear. There was still a lot of improvements that could have been made to the truck, but my grandpa passed away so that stuff never got accomplished.
Ok… thats cool
Must be some class rules that they can't have more aero on the front??
That's Unlimited. Stock might not be quite as exciting.
They added the small front wing to balance the aero changes they made in the rear. Since they're only going for top speed, they have to eliminate drag as much as possible, and wings add drag.
They would have done more aero if my grandpa was able to continue developing the truck but he passed away shortly after this last run. Maybe someday my dad and I will take it back out on the salt once again.
How DAAAAARRRRRREE you !!!