if the Janissaries are not a ranged unit they should also have normal H.C. I don't understand why the janissaries aren't just made as a bonus unit like the other races. camel riders, landsknechts, mangudai, mounted archers, genadiers, etc. everyone agrees that the janissaries are not handcannoiers, so the ottomans lack this unit.
the only thing bugged about the blacksmith is that the influence bonus starts once construction begins, not when it completes -- the mangonel was reduced from 40s to 30s. you can see that the springald took 30s before and is reduced to 22s. you can also see the "influence" icon (the plus symbol) on the siege workshop once construction begins on the blacksmith.
+40% trade is like 12 villagers worth of population if you have 30 traders (probably should have 20 instead for 8 free population in earning power). Why go for 10% mining for like 2-3 pop and 0 in endgame? Ottomans can have so much pop-free earning power it is insane.
I’m new to aoe and I want to play ottomans because I’m Turkish lol but dude… this game is A LOT. Does it get easier? I’m so overwhelmed I didn’t know half this stuff even existed in the game lol. Good video ill prolly rewatch 100 times
The first few weeks it gets harder the more you learn, then you start chilling down (except u wanna go diamond or let alone conquerer) just play untill u win against hardest ai then play some ranked matches
Beasty said the Great Bombard is "good, but dies easily"? A unit that costs 1500 res, 1000 gold and dies easily is good? I guess that's why no one ever makes it, zero Great Bombards the entire Redbull Wololo
I can't find any explanation on the masteries of the ottomans. The task description for some of them are not clear to me. for example the third one doesn't even have a description? does anybody know where to find it. That's actually what I was searching for and came here. But this was an nice overview thanks ! .
I am a beginner and just bought age of empire IV anniversary edition but when i try to play skimmish there is no ottoman empire that i can choose do i have to unlock ottoman empire first if so how
Can you combo the fortitude ability with the mehter drums melee defense drums to mitigate the melee damage they would take while fortitude is active? 🤔
Great vid. I love these in detail explaining all the details along with a basic build. It helps the juices flow on why things and done the reasons why.
So even with this, what u call, OP Mehter buff, you ranked the Ottomans as a "C" level Civ. The worst civ in your ranking. So why try to get this nerfed, to make them an even worse civ? This Civ needs more OP buffs to help it, not nerfs.
So i double-checked if the sieg workshop has reduced built time before the blacksmith is finished, and indeed it is reduced. This might happen because u connected the blacksmith aura to an already existing one, so maybe the aura was active from the other blacksmith already that was finished and just got expanded
You say Ottomans are strong, but Otto win rate is only 40%, and you yourself always lose playing Ottomans. You actually said Great Bombard is GOOD? That's why no pros use it ever?
You gotta remember that most people using it on the live servers don't have actual expirience using Ottomans before meaning the winrates are a little but skewed, RBW tournament is way better than ladder to gauge the strength of a civ
If you saw Redbull Wololo Legacy you would see how strong they are. Great bombards are good but they are hard countered by culverins. They likely need a little bonus damage armour.
@@williamschubert4819 I think they are just shit. They do bonus dmg vs infantry but against HRE in a random 2v2 game the HRE opponent just ran past my units with their mass and destroyed my whole siege :D (and yes I had crossbows and knights)
Which is funny, because last time i was using them, when my army collided with the enemy army, my Mehters ran past my army and headlong into the enemy army, like some suicidal mosh pit enthusiast. I think they should add a 0 damage, invisible ranged attack to them, that forces them to attempt to maintain range from the enemy or at least stop them from trying to run past their own army.
To clarify mangonels don't deal bonus damage to Janissaries because they aren't ranged units, however Janissaries take more damage because the mangonel is a ranged attack. Or is the mangonel attack not classified as ranged?
The constant and free production of units seems to me like it makes Ottomans a really good civ for beginning the game when you often struggle with macro
One bug/feature. Floating military schools don't count to the number of janissaries you get. You can't even activate it in water maps if you have 0 land based schools. I love ottoman castle in water maps as you can harass shores with those grand galleys dropping on units non stop
As a new player your videos are great. Really nice them being long and super detailed.
if the Janissaries are not a ranged unit they should also have normal H.C. I don't understand why the janissaries aren't just made as a bonus unit like the other races. camel riders, landsknechts, mangudai, mounted archers, genadiers, etc. everyone agrees that the janissaries are not handcannoiers, so the ottomans lack this unit.
Janissary are another unit and that is good, they should not make them like handcannoner but add normal handcannoner to ottoman
@Commander Shepard if they change the tag to be the same as handcannons they will take bonus damage from mangos and horsemen
Thank you very much for this good work. I could learn alot.
my favorite civ "bonus" can't gather boar lmao
the only thing bugged about the blacksmith is that the influence bonus starts once construction begins, not when it completes -- the mangonel was reduced from 40s to 30s. you can see that the springald took 30s before and is reduced to 22s. you can also see the "influence" icon (the plus symbol) on the siege workshop once construction begins on the blacksmith.
Great job as always!
The vizier point system is VERY similar to the AoE3 card/deck system i noticed.
Not to mention, the civ is basically AoE3 Ottomans that got ported to AoE4
+40% trade is like 12 villagers worth of population if you have 30 traders (probably should have 20 instead for 8 free population in earning power). Why go for 10% mining for like 2-3 pop and 0 in endgame? Ottomans can have so much pop-free earning power it is insane.
this was a very good guide
I’m new to aoe and I want to play ottomans because I’m Turkish lol but dude… this game is A LOT. Does it get easier? I’m so overwhelmed I didn’t know half this stuff even existed in the game lol. Good video ill prolly rewatch 100 times
The first few weeks it gets harder the more you learn, then you start chilling down (except u wanna go diamond or let alone conquerer) just play untill u win against hardest ai then play some ranked matches
It's overwhelming but at the same time so rewarding. You do feel like your brain is getting bigger and the game becomes something else!
Beasty is the goat
Newbie here. Supee useful, thank you!
Beasty said the Great Bombard is "good, but dies easily"? A unit that costs 1500 res, 1000 gold and dies easily is good? I guess that's why no one ever makes it, zero Great Bombards the entire Redbull Wololo
There were almost no games that went to imp
You make them for free though. Every pro game that's used them just made them for free
🍪
I can't find any explanation on the masteries of the ottomans. The task description for some of them are not clear to me. for example the third one doesn't even have a description? does anybody know where to find it. That's actually what I was searching for and came here. But this was an nice overview thanks ! .
the third one you have to win a custom or skirmish match against Easy AI
I am a beginner and just bought age of empire IV anniversary edition but when i try to play skimmish there is no ottoman empire that i can choose do i have to unlock ottoman empire first if so how
Awesome as always. Ottomans is currently my favorite civ. Thanks Beasty.
did the mehter got nerfed?
I literally start playing today. lol
Can you combo the fortitude ability with the mehter drums melee defense drums to mitigate the melee damage they would take while fortitude is active? 🤔
Sipahis have longer range now nothing to worry of abiut taking extra dmg ))
Thanks Beasty, hope you’re recovering well from the health stuff ✌️
Isnt the monk vizier upgrade good for securing early relics?
Yeah just got better with the otto buff on the sultani trade network. Alot of passive gold without workers now
Can you stack 3 different auras with 3 mehters?
NO
5:04 Excuse me Sir, but wtf is a covren?
culverin
@@duskworker8469 Aah, it makes sense now, thanks!
Your the goat man! Ty like always!
He's the Lion
@@Yato5926 donkey
Great vid. I love these in detail explaining all the details along with a basic build. It helps the juices flow on why things and done the reasons why.
So even with this, what u call, OP Mehter buff, you ranked the Ottomans as a "C" level Civ. The worst civ in your ranking. So why try to get this nerfed, to make them an even worse civ? This Civ needs more OP buffs to help it, not nerfs.
Beasty a big eco player, otto ain't. know for that
So i double-checked if the sieg workshop has reduced built time before the blacksmith is finished, and indeed it is reduced. This might happen because u connected the blacksmith aura to an already existing one, so maybe the aura was active from the other blacksmith already that was finished and just got expanded
You say Ottomans are strong, but Otto win rate is only 40%, and you yourself always lose playing Ottomans. You actually said Great Bombard is GOOD? That's why no pros use it ever?
You gotta remember that most people using it on the live servers don't have actual expirience using Ottomans before meaning the winrates are a little but skewed, RBW tournament is way better than ladder to gauge the strength of a civ
If you saw Redbull Wololo Legacy you would see how strong they are. Great bombards are good but they are hard countered by culverins. They likely need a little bonus damage armour.
@@williamschubert4819 I think they are just shit. They do bonus dmg vs infantry but against HRE in a random 2v2 game the HRE opponent just ran past my units with their mass and destroyed my whole siege :D (and yes I had crossbows and knights)
Ottoman is very good, you could see that at red bull wololo
ottomans right now are a mid game civ. late game is not the best but their free units are bunching up and so they are really scary when played right
"Trade bags" sounds like a great deal imo, because it allows you to train less caravans which means less population and more army or vill whatever...
why you changed your name？
When are we gonna see you lion banner in the back ground?
"Mehters... you gotta keep them safe from your enemy, and you gotta keep them safe from the devs"
-beasty
Which is funny, because last time i was using them, when my army collided with the enemy army, my Mehters ran past my army and headlong into the enemy army, like some suicidal mosh pit enthusiast. I think they should add a 0 damage, invisible ranged attack to them, that forces them to attempt to maintain range from the enemy or at least stop them from trying to run past their own army.
@@mazhiwezakizo3513 sounds like a skill issue
yeah the vizier points notifications is still a tad bit louder than all the other in-game sounds
Just to the incendiary arrows: it’s only visual, they’re ranged units get that extra damage
gaymers!
Imams are buggued and dont heal units arround beside the 2 you get with the Vizir point
Thats the point of vizir point i guess
@@diehard4083 it's meant to upgrade all imams, it is a big.
@@williamschubert4819 ah you mean the other imams beside those two doesnt heal? Im sure they do heal in my games, but the area is small
@@diehard4083 no they don't. I tested it.
@@Goldsnip i always see multiple small small + on units units around them and which aint target of their usual healing, whats that then?
To clarify mangonels don't deal bonus damage to Janissaries because they aren't ranged units, however Janissaries take more damage because the mangonel is a ranged attack. Or is the mangonel attack not classified as ranged?
It's siege, not ranged. There is no armor reduction vs mango damage, so it's not ranged.
@@GamerDadAntpile thanks I thought so but beastyqt said differently. Otherwise mangonels would get a bonus which they don't seem to get.
What are some good compositions? Jani and sepahi?
Molim te odradi guide za Kineze opet Season 3 I hvala za kontent i Puno ljubavi iz Kragujevca
You got so many friend requests 😄
I want the Ottomans Build!!! :)
He will do that in a bit of time
Great work! Quick note, use cheats for instant build if you want to save time for your tutorials! (Inna jiffy).
The constant and free production of units seems to me like it makes Ottomans a really good civ for beginning the game when you often struggle with macro
One bug/feature. Floating military schools don't count to the number of janissaries you get. You can't even activate it in water maps if you have 0 land based schools.
I love ottoman castle in water maps as you can harass shores with those grand galleys dropping on units non stop
that clap 2/10
where is build order?