@@gmicg yes they could have, but it's easier to blame Britains royals. People never read up or do any research and at the moment, Britain is being blamed for everything bad in the world.
@@theresapierce3934 I don't blame the UK. It was its ful right to refuse to receive the Romanovs. My point is they could have been sent elsewhere: Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, Holland, Spain, Japan...
George V put his crown, and his head, above everyone else. The British government was prepared to welcome them but he changed his mind. Alfonso XIII tried, in vain too, to rescue them but the soviets lied to him, still answering about the chances of sending them to Spain when they were dead already.
Having been in Ekaterinburg when the Romanov family remains were discovered and my association with the city and st.petersbrgh, I was deeply moved . Glad yeltsin, himself a native of Ekaterinburg, organisms the State ceremonies of burIal. N.R.Srinivasan 16 sep 2028
It was a combination of bad luck and bad judgement. Nicholas wasn't with the family when the kids came down with measles. The tsarina delayed and delayed waiting for him to get back. There was a slim chance the kids could have been evacuated covertly but they fell ill and couldn't be moved. After that window of opportunity expired it was always going to be difficult. I never could understand why the kids weren't sent away the year before the situation deteriorated so badly. Even as a precaution.
The kids weren't sent away - as they should have been - due, once again, to Alexandra's Major Selfishness, which was Always at work. She couldn't bear to be without them, and she couldn't stand not being in control at all times. Well, at the end of the day, Alex and Nicky made sooo many bad decisions that they are incalculable.
Alexandra is almost impossible to get, really. Let's start with the change she experienced the second she set foot on Russia, it was as she changed into this ortodox fanatic, plus, she was there like... 2' ago and started making remarks about how things were managed on the very verge of her father-in-law's death. And that didn't stop there. So when I say this woman, days away from being shot was telling Nicholas not to sign anything, as in trying to make him guilty of the Brest-Litovsk's treaty!!! She was out of her bloody mind. I sincerely hope she got enough seconds once the soviets showed their guns to understand what she has done, and her part in what her family was about to experience. I'm 38, almost 39, and I started reading about them back in 1990, almost 3 decades and I have tried and failed to find any particular trait, even a mild one, that might redeem this woman. Sure, she loved her children but even the children, by the end of it, understood, especially Olga, that it was better to keep her out of things rather than informed for it always backfired. I know they were, to both Nicholas and herself, each other's love of their life but in dynastic terms she was the worst possible option as her in-law quickly understood after spending a bit of time with her, and right they were.
@@seadog2396 It's always been noted that the children were somewhat emotionally stunted (even socially at times) because of how coddled and secluded they were. Obviously this was unavoidable because of their status, but to that extend? How would these girls have interacted with possible suitors and cope with financial and state affairs on their own behalf after marriage? It seems that these girls were constantly at the mercy of their mother's emotional state and forced into a codependent bond. Letters and diary entries don't tell us the full story, but it was obvious that they did everything in their power to put their mother's emotional needs before their own. It's not surprising that Olga wasn't well suited to be a practicing surgical nurse. Being exposed to such horrors and stress without the proper foundations to deal would make most of us crumble under pressure. Tatiana was an outlier, because Alexandra also wasn't able to cope with the stress after a while. It's often noted that Olga was more aware of the situation due to her ''melancholic'', practical, and forthright nature, but those are mere adjectives. The reason why she was more ''aware'' and suffering under the situation was age related. One becomes wiser with age and she knew the situation her parents created was dire. Though i'm pretty sure the other girl were aware too, it's not as if they didn't talk among themselves. They just didn't express it as clearly in their writings.
the most popular theory was that george v was focused on his very own kingdom's survival over the fate of his first cousin and family. blood was not thicker than water as far as he was concerned.
@@thevillaaston7811 - Well said Without being disrespect the Romanovs future was doomed once the Russian Revolution began. The Bolsheviks, Anarchists, Royalists and the Communist hated Tsar Nicholas and his family. In other words they would be better off deaf as no country wanted them
Not a theory anymore, I've seen documents that support this theory, letters HM King George V exchanged with his secretary, he changed his mind out of fear, and the government then withdrew the offer.
I love Helen Rappaport! She is my favorite author and I think she has the best voice, especially in Russia's Lost Princesses. She said she did NOT exonerate George V. I do think he lost his nerve, though. I also think, had the situation been reversed and King George V's family needed asylum in Russia, Nicholas would have jumped to their rescue.
Exile to Napoleon's place of exile St. Helena would have been an ideal solution for all parties involved. Longwood house protected by the British would have been a place of safety.
@@thevillaaston7811 ever, read history. Called the fox or the prostitute by Russian historians through the ages. The quote “England doesn’t hve friends or allies, it has interests” by Lord Palmerston, is most apt. Ever forming alliances for expediency & then changing them as needed, compared to the ancient blood & ties & allegiances of other countries.
@MCS 26 which survivors were they? Marya Feodorovna? Denmark her homeland saved her. Don’t flatter yourselves, every one of us who’s a White Russian Émigré understands England’s role in 1917. Why else should the First currencies in Bolshevik banks after the Revolution hve been English pound sterling. Ever the mercenary fox, see comment above.
They still hve them, the Queen wears them without her conscience losing any sleep over it. But then, they were good friends of the Nazis, the Turks sometimes, hated the world over by the colonies where they counted genocide. Always the English grubby treacherous & duplicitous deeds in secret in history, yet they end up with such seemingly clean little hands. ((
I read her book about the daughters and I’m so glad she wrote it for the very reasons she states. They are often referred to as “the girls” and it’s annoying. They were individuals too.
I love that she “fell in love with the girls”. I’ve also thought they were marginalized in the story of the Romanovs as well and I devoured her book on them. I have a particular soft spot for Tatiana but I’m glad she focused on all four. Great book! Great author. To me her Romanov books are the definitive ones.
they are family george v and nicholas ii visited each other so much times each year, since george v brothers didnt meet him often or treat him well and only were intrested to become king, they were both kings
England had troops in Russia long before WWI, Lenin and his supporters met in London for years... how could the British king not know what kind of danger these people were?
The Romanov family including Czar Nicholas II, Alexandra, and all the children have all now been confirmed Martyred Saints in the Russian Orthodox Church. The Church of the Blood has now been built on the spot where the family was murdered in the basement of what was called the "House of Special Purpose".
There are a lot of people on here saying blood is thicker than water. Its as though you believe he was doing it solely to save his throne. Give the man some credit. What people don't seem to appreciate is that 958,000 of George V's subjects died fighting in the Great War. He was in an excrutiatingly difficult position. Why would ANY King want to risk any more lives after such bloodshed? It's different for you and me. We don't have to worry about our families and our countries as though they were the same thing. George did.
I read very recently that Nicholas II went to the Duma secretly to see if the law could be overturned (shortly before the Revolution) to see if the Law of Succession could be overturned to make Olga (eldest daughter) Tsarevna of all the Russias. Is this true?
Geography,communication,1918. Too late to rescue them. Why didn't they get the girls and Alexi out a year or two prior. The country was coming to a boiling point. The czar should have opened his eyes wider!!!!
Me. Rappaport I truly enjoy and respect the work of researching any and all regarding the Romanovs! There is another that doesn’t get to the truth or do actual research as yourself. I would like to know if there is any truth to something I read in someone’s book about Mary of Teck Queen Consort(?). It was basically said that she and the king were having a meal and a note was brought in. Whether it was for her or the king I don’t remember. But whoever brought this note was told “No”. It was thought that the note was a one last plea for help. Is there any truth in that?
bunk. King George agreed, then chickened out. the czar was his cousin. He could have gotten them out before the soviets even knew. HE could have saved them, and chose not to. He had plenty of blood on his hands.
bunk. 'King George' had no say in government policy. The provisional government could not even get them through Petrograd to meet a ship in the Baltic. Further, the Romanovs were foreign nationals, Britain had no obligation to offer them a place to live.
In my opinion, the person that bore the most guilt was Tsar Nicholas for not getting his family out while he still could. That should have been his focus, but I guess he refused to see the danger.
After a lifelong love affair with the story of the Romanovs and after reading many books on the subject I just had to buy this book. I haven't read it yet but am looking forward very much to doing so. I just know this will be a very good book, having previously read some of Helen's previous work.
I agree with you on the conspiracy problems. If you found out something different about the imperial family what would it's effect the technology of today be?
I was not interested either out of all countries Russia until I watched a Netflix series called "The Last Cazars" I wanted to further research. Thank you, you must be the first person from several RUclips videos/Documentaries that I've seen about the Romanovs so far whom I think so genuine about the terrorist attacks upon the last of the Romanovs Family. To the bastards terrorist who shot point blak close range and murdered all of them especially the 5 Princesses and Prince. They had much right to live just like any other human, so where was the humanity in that. I am so disgusted in Russia today and George fat pig 5th for allowing this to happen. What would Queen Victoria say if she was still alive the fact that Princess Alexandar was her favourite granddaughter. Russians bring nothing more but great shame and disgust into the 21st Century.
George V wasn’t fat, his father Edward VII was. You’re considered a pupil on this subject and not a scholar, so do more research first before you hand out your final conclusions. While on the Netflix subject, watch The Windsors, one of the best documentaries out there
King George allowed his wife to make the decision after parliament said go get them. How to get them on a boat to England who knows but I’m sure England had more might than the ones holding the family but also the enemy could have killed them anyway. Anastasia is not alive and never was. Disney made a movie on her being alive which probably doesn’t help.
To all the thickoes who keep posting nonsense on here: King George V was constitutional monach, a figurehead, who had no influence on decision making by the government of the day. The fact that the Romanovs were related to George V gave them no more right to live in Britain than any other Russian relatives of British nationals. Further, how would it have served British interests to make an exeption for the Romanovs in regard to immigration into Britain? The Provisional Government had pledged to carry on with the war, seeing the Romanovs living in Britain might even have destabliized British-Russian relations at a critical time in the war. Here is a list of the those who were responsible for the murder of the Romanovs: Lenin The Ural Soviet ...End of list. No time wasting replies please.
Никто не хотел спасения Царской Семьи, потому что опасались возрождения монархии в России.. именно монархическая Россия всегда была страшна и неугодна для всех: для Запада в целом, для Англии конкретно, для большевиков, для либералов, для Ватикана.. для антихристианских сил в общем.. поэтому ни о каком спасении английской королевской семьей или другими речи быть не могло.
Добрый вечер!!! ккаким образом можно выяснить, какую аристократическую (дворянскую ) В период революции вырезали , как считают все,. На сколько я знаю пра-прабабушка была вроде католичкой. И их глушили и те и другие. В то время у служанки родился сын. Так вот она рескуя ценой своеи жизни, сохранила род. Взяв прадеда на Урал и выдаа его за своего сына. С тех самых пор он носил фамилию Александров . На самом деле мне даже жутко. Ведь с какой-то целью было небходимо искоренить род. При том всех!!! что нн было потомков.
Was the wealth of Tsar deposited with king George V. If so it makes sense as to why sly George first offering & latter refusing asylum to Tsar & his Family. Justice to Tsar was given by making him a Saint by the Russian Orthodox even as those that planned against him & Russia have started seeing their doomsday from the time Russia denotated. the 50 Megaton (Tsar) thermonuclear device, a sign , & it cannot be stopped.
If George was the King of England who controlled the Bank of England , this fellow backstabbed & stole his cousins wealth Did ya know that Lenin/Bolsheviks smuggled unto Russia from a so called neutral Swizerland were agents of the west specifically Germany (that later backfired), in short Regime Changers (sound Familiar?) And that being the case don't say King George had no hand in it Biblically there was an Enmity put by God between the seed of the serpent & the woman, its fruitation is but come into play except to discern between the two , when there can be the two in the same family of cousins.
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It's ridiculous to excuse the English king. I bought former books from Rappaport, I'll never buy this one, I'm disappointed with this historian, I never thought she was a Brexit Nationalist-Jingoist.
King George even don't try to save them,isn't it? Probably were impossible or very hard but he should try but why they done marriage alliance between them to can help one of others at moments of needs ...but history shows they never care one of other so those arranged marriage was done for nothing!
+TheVilla Aston ...something...anything ...at diplomatic level pay for them to not be executed or be given at exchange ..just be insistent maybe Bolshevik would be more afraid the Europeans powers care of theirs relatives and will be diplomatic consequence for theirs crimes
@@lauralaura2293 George V was a constitutional monarch. Any monies paid to the Bolshevik government would have had to have been his own. In 1917 the overthrow of the Tsar led to a Russian government that was pledged to continue the war. In 1917 Britain was losing nearly 500 people per day, the French, twice that number. The French army was in revolt, Geurge V had felt unsure of his position to the extent that he changed his surname. The Romanovs were foreign nationals. In March 1917 the overthrow of the Tsar led to a Russian government that was pledged to continue the war. The revolution was was greeted as a step forward by newspapers such as the Daily Mail. By the time of the November revolution the Romanovs were in Tobolsk, which was further away from Petrograd than London. The German Kaiser, who was also a relative of the Romanovs would seem to have been in in a far better position to negotiate with the Bolsheviks than George V.
+TheVilla Aston Totally agree...King George should help them from his own money ... for that's was made alliances marriages isn't it?...And of course there are others Royal relatives more guilty or at least in same indifference fault...Royalty have power ,influence and money to try to help at one of them blood isn't it? Maybe they couldn't help but it should try ...but nobody tried...
+TheVilla Aston the fate of Romanovs could be a better one if others Europeans Royalties were more brave to show more interest about what happens with them...Bolsheviks would be afraid to kill them ...keep them only prisons had a chance maybe one day to give them freedom in exchange of what interest had Russia from European Powers at that time...they would afraid to not be all Europe against them....but if nobody care they killed them easy...sometimes small details without importance change destinies...
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George V could have sent the Romanovs to Canada, or Australia, South Africa etc The British Empire was huge.
What about the neutral Denmark, Sweden and Norway? Couldn't they help too?
@@gmicg yes they could have, but it's easier to blame Britains royals. People never read up or do any research and at the moment, Britain is being blamed for everything bad in the world.
@@theresapierce3934 I don't blame the UK. It was its ful right to refuse to receive the Romanovs. My point is they could have been sent elsewhere: Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, Holland, Spain, Japan...
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So how were the Romanovs going to get to a place where George V could send them anywhere?
George V put his crown, and his head, above everyone else. The British government was prepared to welcome them but he changed his mind. Alfonso XIII tried, in vain too, to rescue them but the soviets lied to him, still answering about the chances of sending them to Spain when they were dead already.
Her passion for the truth has cleared up so many questions for me I have pondered over the past 50 years after reading Massie. Thank you!
Having been in Ekaterinburg when the Romanov family remains were discovered and my association with the city and st.petersbrgh, I was deeply moved . Glad yeltsin, himself a native of Ekaterinburg, organisms the State ceremonies of burIal.
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It was a combination of bad luck and bad judgement. Nicholas wasn't with the family when the kids came down with measles. The tsarina delayed and delayed waiting for him to get back. There was a slim chance the kids could have been evacuated covertly but they fell ill and couldn't be moved. After that window of opportunity expired it was always going to be difficult. I never could understand why the kids weren't sent away the year before the situation deteriorated so badly. Even as a precaution.
The kids weren't sent away - as they should have been - due, once again, to Alexandra's Major Selfishness, which was Always at work.
She couldn't bear to be without them, and she couldn't stand not being in control at all times.
Well, at the end of the day, Alex and Nicky made sooo many bad decisions that they are incalculable.
Alexandra is almost impossible to get, really. Let's start with the change she experienced the second she set foot on Russia, it was as she changed into this ortodox fanatic, plus, she was there like... 2' ago and started making remarks about how things were managed on the very verge of her father-in-law's death. And that didn't stop there. So when I say this woman, days away from being shot was telling Nicholas not to sign anything, as in trying to make him guilty of the Brest-Litovsk's treaty!!! She was out of her bloody mind. I sincerely hope she got enough seconds once the soviets showed their guns to understand what she has done, and her part in what her family was about to experience.
I'm 38, almost 39, and I started reading about them back in 1990, almost 3 decades and I have tried and failed to find any particular trait, even a mild one, that might redeem this woman. Sure, she loved her children but even the children, by the end of it, understood, especially Olga, that it was better to keep her out of things rather than informed for it always backfired. I know they were, to both Nicholas and herself, each other's love of their life but in dynastic terms she was the worst possible option as her in-law quickly understood after spending a bit of time with her, and right they were.
@@seadog2396 It's always been noted that the children were somewhat emotionally stunted (even socially at times) because of how coddled and secluded they were. Obviously this was unavoidable because of their status, but to that extend? How would these girls have interacted with possible suitors and cope with financial and state affairs on their own behalf after marriage?
It seems that these girls were constantly at the mercy of their mother's emotional state and forced into a codependent bond. Letters and diary entries don't tell us the full story, but it was obvious that they did everything in their power to put their mother's emotional needs before their own.
It's not surprising that Olga wasn't well suited to be a practicing surgical nurse. Being exposed to such horrors and stress without the proper foundations to deal would make most of us crumble under pressure. Tatiana was an outlier, because Alexandra also wasn't able to cope with the stress after a while.
It's often noted that Olga was more aware of the situation due to her ''melancholic'', practical, and forthright nature, but those are mere adjectives. The reason why she was more ''aware'' and suffering under the situation was age related. One becomes wiser with age and she knew the situation her parents created was dire. Though i'm pretty sure the other girl were aware too, it's not as if they didn't talk among themselves. They just didn't express it as clearly in their writings.
the most popular theory was that george v was focused on his very own kingdom's survival over the fate of his first cousin and family. blood was not thicker than water as far as he was concerned.
So true
He sent troops to save the other romanovs but sadly wasnt able to save the tsars family.
Vilma Thomas
George V's first duty was to his country. Blood and water had nothing to do with it
@@thevillaaston7811 - Well said
Without being disrespect the Romanovs future was doomed once the Russian Revolution began. The Bolsheviks, Anarchists, Royalists and the Communist hated Tsar Nicholas and his family. In other words they would be better off deaf as no country wanted them
Not a theory anymore, I've seen documents that support this theory, letters HM King George V exchanged with his secretary, he changed his mind out of fear, and the government then withdrew the offer.
I love Helen Rappaport! She is my favorite author and I think she has the best voice, especially in Russia's Lost Princesses. She said she did NOT exonerate George V. I do think he lost his nerve, though. I also think, had the situation been reversed and King George V's family needed asylum in Russia, Nicholas would have jumped to their rescue.
For sure i hope that bothered good ol Georgie the rest of his life
@@myassizitchy I heard it did, but can't remember where I read that. Good. He should have helped them, IMO. Nicholas was family for God's sake.
@@ElizabethF2222
What was King George V supposed to be able to do?
@@thevillaaston7811 Uh, he's the king?
@@ElizabethF2222
Uh, he was a constitutional monarch.
Exile to Napoleon's place of exile St. Helena would have been an ideal solution for all parties involved. Longwood house protected by the British would have been a place of safety.
The british monarch doesn't honor kinship. They find Romanovs jewels more valuable and made all efforts to have those jewels come their way.
'The british monarch doesn't honor kinship'
When?
@@thevillaaston7811 ever, read history. Called the fox or the prostitute by Russian historians through the ages.
The quote “England doesn’t hve friends or allies, it has interests” by Lord Palmerston, is most apt. Ever forming alliances for expediency & then changing them as needed, compared to the ancient blood & ties & allegiances of other countries.
@MCS 26 which survivors were they? Marya Feodorovna? Denmark her homeland saved her.
Don’t flatter yourselves, every one of us who’s a White Russian Émigré understands England’s role in 1917. Why else should the First currencies in Bolshevik banks after the Revolution hve been English pound sterling.
Ever the mercenary fox, see comment above.
They still hve them, the Queen wears them without her conscience losing any sleep over it. But then, they were good friends of the Nazis, the Turks sometimes, hated the world over by the colonies where they counted genocide.
Always the English grubby treacherous &
duplicitous deeds in secret in history, yet they end up with such seemingly clean little hands. ((
@@mgkos
'Marya Feodorovna? Denmark her homeland saved her.'
When did that happen?
I read her book about the daughters and I’m so glad she wrote it for the very reasons she states. They are often referred to as “the girls” and it’s annoying. They were individuals too.
Read it about 7 years ago and found in myself a deep, sort of emotional, connection to Olga. It has never left. She haunts me, in a good way.
Fascinating, this overly simplified period in history is finally being fully appraised
I love that she “fell in love with the girls”. I’ve also thought they were marginalized in the story of the Romanovs as well and I devoured her book on them. I have a particular soft spot for Tatiana but I’m glad she focused on all four. Great book! Great author. To me her Romanov books are the definitive ones.
I agree!
There is no loyalty among thieves or kings.
they are family george v and nicholas ii visited each other so much times each year, since george v brothers didnt meet him often or treat him well and only were intrested to become king, they were both kings
Your books and lectures are always so enjoyable !
She is a great writer and I loved the book.
I wonder if King George V knew the family would've been assisinated before he made his decision? Did he have any guilt after learning this?
What could George V decide? He was a constitutional monarch.
England had troops in Russia long before WWI, Lenin and his supporters met in London for years... how could the British king not know what kind of danger these people were?
Awesome
The Romanov family including Czar Nicholas II, Alexandra, and all the children have all now been confirmed Martyred Saints in the Russian Orthodox Church. The Church of the Blood has now been built on the spot where the family was murdered in the basement of what was called the "House of Special Purpose".
There are a lot of people on here saying blood is thicker than water. Its as though you believe he was doing it solely to save his throne. Give the man some credit. What people don't seem to appreciate is that 958,000 of George V's subjects died fighting in the Great War. He was in an excrutiatingly difficult position. Why would ANY King want to risk any more lives after such bloodshed? It's different for you and me. We don't have to worry about our families and our countries as though they were the same thing. George did.
This would be great in an audiobook narrated by you?
I read very recently that Nicholas II went to the Duma secretly to see if the law could be overturned (shortly before the Revolution) to see if the Law of Succession could be overturned to make Olga (eldest daughter) Tsarevna of all the Russias. Is this true?
Geography,communication,1918. Too late to rescue them. Why didn't they get the girls and Alexi out a year or two prior. The country was coming to a boiling point. The czar should have opened his eyes wider!!!!
In all reality, they wanted to be together!
@@melanieobremski8570Would you let your children be with you during a shooting or would you hide them? .....
British quick to execute Rasputin, geography didn’t get in the way there
ROTFL.
Me. Rappaport I truly enjoy and respect the work of researching any and all regarding the Romanovs! There is another that doesn’t get to the truth or do actual research as yourself.
I would like to know if there is any truth to something I read in someone’s book about Mary of Teck Queen Consort(?). It was basically said that she and the king were having a meal and a note was brought in. Whether it was for her or the king I don’t remember. But whoever brought this note was told “No”. It was thought that the note was a one last plea for help. Is there any truth in that?
EXCELLENT book well written!
bunk. King George agreed, then chickened out. the czar was his cousin. He could have gotten them out before the soviets even knew. HE could have saved them, and chose not to. He had plenty of blood on his hands.
She's making excuses.
bunk. 'King George' had no say in government policy. The provisional government could not even get them through Petrograd to meet a ship in the Baltic.
Further, the Romanovs were foreign nationals, Britain had no obligation to offer them a place to live.
In my opinion, the person that bore the most guilt was Tsar Nicholas for not getting his family out while he still could. That should have been his focus, but I guess he refused to see the danger.
It makes me very angry, too. Both he and Alexandra were in some kind of manic state of denial, that's all I can think.
can't wait to read this
great person Alphonso of Spain...he rescues them not but he tried, he cared and what he done have our admiration
I got this book and i love it
KingGeorge didn't even help them so sad 😔
Who is the necklace by?
Where can I get in contact with her?
Her publisher may pass on a letter.
No body whose killed
Alexei past away in Russia in 1991 .
You have absolutely no scientific proof of that !
@Phil Ad even the Russian church was skeptical of the results.With good reason.
Likely.
After a lifelong love affair with the story of the Romanovs and after reading many books on the subject I just had to buy this book. I haven't read it yet but am looking forward very much to doing so. I just know this will be a very good book, having previously read some of Helen's previous work.
I agree with you on the conspiracy problems. If you found out something different about the imperial family what would it's effect the technology of today be?
I was not interested either out of all countries Russia until I watched a Netflix series called "The Last Cazars" I wanted to further research. Thank you, you must be the first person from several RUclips videos/Documentaries that I've seen about the Romanovs so far whom I think so genuine about the terrorist attacks upon the last of the Romanovs Family. To the bastards terrorist who shot point blak close range and murdered all of them especially the 5 Princesses and Prince. They had much right to live just like any other human, so where was the humanity in that. I am so disgusted in Russia today and George fat pig 5th for allowing this to happen. What would Queen Victoria say if she was still alive the fact that Princess Alexandar was her favourite granddaughter. Russians bring nothing more but great shame and disgust into the 21st Century.
George V wasn’t fat, his father Edward VII was. You’re considered a pupil on this subject and not a scholar, so do more research first before you hand out your final conclusions. While on the Netflix subject, watch The Windsors, one of the best documentaries out there
She needs to meet the last Romanov son ❤
I feel that history has not yet quite reported the truth regarding this set of events - maybe it never will.
Also they should have taken a holiday things were bad in Russia for a long time if they'd acted before things got worse they would have been saved
I love Helen.....i see complex.....their innocent children should escape as soon as possible
King George allowed his wife to make the decision after parliament said go get them. How to get them on a boat to England who knows but I’m sure England had more might than the ones holding the family but also the enemy could have killed them anyway. Anastasia is not alive and never was. Disney made a movie on her being alive which probably doesn’t help.
Balfour apparently decided to play it down
Look at London were teacher has some docyments,photos boxes...
To all the thickoes who keep posting nonsense on here:
King George V was constitutional monach, a figurehead, who had no influence on decision making by the government of the day. The fact that the Romanovs were related to George V gave them no more right to live in Britain than any other Russian relatives of British nationals.
Further, how would it have served British interests to make an exeption for the Romanovs in regard to immigration into Britain? The Provisional Government had pledged to carry on with the war, seeing the Romanovs living in Britain might even have destabliized British-Russian relations at a critical time in the war.
Here is a list of the those who were responsible for the murder of the Romanovs:
Lenin
The Ural Soviet
...End of list.
No time wasting replies please.
No other country would have them either
Никто не хотел спасения Царской Семьи, потому что опасались возрождения монархии в России.. именно монархическая Россия всегда была страшна и неугодна для всех: для Запада в целом, для Англии конкретно, для большевиков, для либералов, для Ватикана.. для антихристианских сил в общем.. поэтому ни о каком спасении английской королевской семьей или другими речи быть не могло.
Добрый вечер!!! ккаким образом можно выяснить, какую аристократическую (дворянскую ) В период революции вырезали , как считают все,. На сколько я знаю пра-прабабушка была вроде католичкой. И их глушили и те и другие. В то время у служанки родился сын. Так вот она рескуя ценой своеи жизни, сохранила род. Взяв прадеда на Урал и выдаа его за своего сына. С тех самых пор он носил фамилию Александров . На самом деле мне даже жутко. Ведь с какой-то целью было небходимо искоренить род. При том всех!!! что нн было потомков.
Yeah well they didn't....... and we feel the effects now don't get it twisted.
Look to count Harry Kessler.
Lois Walsh who was he?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Graf_Kessler. @@anastasiafuad1773
I just want Russia to restore the monarchy!
dna lives in the world to day!
Look to Harry kessler. Count of Germany.
Was the wealth of Tsar deposited with king George V. If so it makes sense as to why sly George first offering & latter refusing asylum to Tsar & his Family.
Justice to Tsar was given by making him a Saint by the Russian Orthodox even as those that planned against him & Russia have started seeing their doomsday from the time Russia denotated. the 50 Megaton (Tsar) thermonuclear device, a sign , & it cannot be stopped.
Total Rubbish.
The 'wealth of Tsar' was deposited with the Bank of England. George V had no more access to it than anyone else.
If George was the King of England who controlled the Bank of England , this fellow backstabbed & stole his cousins wealth
Did ya know that Lenin/Bolsheviks smuggled unto Russia from a so called neutral Swizerland were agents of the west specifically Germany (that later backfired), in short Regime Changers (sound Familiar?) And that being the case don't say King George had no hand in it
Biblically there was an Enmity put by God between the seed of the serpent & the woman, its fruitation is but come into play except to discern between the two , when there can be the two in the same family of cousins.
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But, ewhat says that you KNOW the truth? Were you there? How do you jnow the facts?
English establishment please stop misslead -across Ipatiev was house were ENGLISH Embassy lockeyted.Open secret dokyments!!!
It was a consulate not an embassy.
Was there a British embassy next to the house where they were murdered?
King George 5 of England sent Canadian army and Australian army to Russia.
No. The British Government sent troops to Russia, as did France, Japan, the USA, and so on.
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Family die in name only
Eighteen minutes to say very little over and over again.
King George 5 did help.
The last tsarist family was transported to Czechoslovakia by agreement. It should all be declassified. The Russian nation was deceived. !!
It's ridiculous to excuse the English king. I bought former books from Rappaport, I'll never buy this one, I'm disappointed with this historian, I never thought she was a Brexit Nationalist-Jingoist.
Awww i am sure she will cry herself to sleep at night knowing you have got all offended....you poor boy
Nothing wrong with Brexit,you brainwashed EU puppet
This lady tells lies
Sorry lady you speak Bolshevik propaganda.
Alexei woes alayf.
He past away in 1991 in he's bed .
King George even don't try to save them,isn't it? Probably were impossible or very hard but he should try but why they done marriage alliance between them to can help one of others at moments of needs ...but history shows they never care one of other so those arranged marriage was done for nothing!
What could King George have done?
+TheVilla Aston ...something...anything ...at diplomatic level pay for them to not be executed or be given at exchange ..just be insistent maybe Bolshevik would be more afraid the Europeans powers care of theirs relatives and will be diplomatic consequence for theirs crimes
@@lauralaura2293
George V was a constitutional monarch. Any monies paid to the Bolshevik
government would have had to have been his own.
In 1917 the overthrow of the Tsar led to a Russian government that was pledged to
continue the war. In 1917 Britain was losing nearly 500 people per day, the French,
twice that number. The French army was in revolt, Geurge V had felt unsure of his
position to the extent that he changed his surname. The Romanovs were foreign
nationals. In March 1917 the overthrow of the Tsar led to a Russian government that was pledged to continue the war. The revolution was was greeted as a step
forward by newspapers such as the Daily Mail.
By the time of the November revolution the Romanovs were in Tobolsk, which was
further away from Petrograd than London. The German Kaiser, who was also a
relative of the Romanovs would seem to have been in in a far better position to
negotiate with the Bolsheviks than George V.
+TheVilla Aston Totally agree...King George should help them from his own money ... for that's was made alliances marriages isn't it?...And of course there are others Royal relatives more guilty or at least in same indifference fault...Royalty have power ,influence and money to try to help at one of them blood isn't it? Maybe they couldn't help but it should try ...but nobody tried...
+TheVilla Aston the fate of Romanovs could be a better one if others Europeans Royalties were more brave to show more interest about what happens with them...Bolsheviks would be afraid to kill them ...keep them only prisons had a chance maybe one day to give them freedom in exchange of what interest had Russia from European Powers at that time...they would afraid to not be all Europe against them....but if nobody care they killed them easy...sometimes small details without importance change destinies...