Does Your Device Need HDMI 2.1? Dolby Atmos Denied | You Asked Ep. 9
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- Опубликовано: 26 июн 2024
- In this episode of You Asked: Why your 4K Blu-ray player doesn't need HDMI 2.1, Dolby Atmos soundbars under $500, why you aren't getting Dolby Atmos from some streaming services, and what's a good Sony Z9D upgrade?
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The fact that the flagship Sony QD-Oled doesn’t have 4 full HDMI 2.1 ports is the main reason i went with an LG G3. Just like me, many people buying high end TVs need them for a PS5+SeriesX+PC+eArc soundbars. Massive deal breaker.
Can u get a hdmi splitter for more hdmi 2.1 ports
Then why don't you get HDMI 2.1 soundbar (or even better - receiver)? With Sony A7000 you could connect Xbox Series X to tv (to have 4k120DV on A95L) and PS5 AND PC to A7000 for full 4k120VRR
@@migez1 so if he already does, then their is totally no problem
@@mateuszptaszynski5377 because i have exactly what i need/ want without the run around and extra investment?
@@migez1Which simply put, not everybody does.
Fun skit! I always enjoy the questions and answers in this series. Great job. 🥰
great content especially the discussion of Dolby 2.1 and the fact that blu-ray players do not need 2.1. I have a Sony A95K TV and had similar concerns about my 2.1 ports already being in use and thus not being available for my new Panasonic DP-UB9000P1K 4k blu-ray player
These Q&A are great! Keep ‘em coming
Useful as always. Keep those question as is. From various areas of 'everything TV', from simple to not so simple questions
Really good questions this week. I especially love the question about the HDMI ports and how the 4k Blu-ray player doesn't even require it and how the picture should be able to pass through a sound bar without being affected. That's good to know.
HDMI ports are the least of my worries😊
I know a lot of this stuff. But it’s good to educate then uninitiated. Thank you.
Hey Caleb, the explanation was great! . It doubles up as an explanation and a creepy video for Halloween.
Now the videos show that you indeed have extra time , because you're no longer been disrupted by ambulance 🚨. Jokes aside, love your work and your sense of humor.
When are we getting the dolby vision vs HDR 10 video?
Soon
Thanks Caleb. I learned something..
Can't speak to soundbars specifically but there are numerous receivers that have multiple HDMI 2.1 inputs. They have various price tags, compatibilities/features, and port quantities for each of course. And probably generally higher cost than a sound bar when you factor in speakers to go with it it. Though a decent setup can be had for cheaper than you might think. Especially if you're willing to get the speakers second hand. Just space is the only concern that doesn't have an easy answer for many who would consider a soundbar in the first place.
That skit 😂😂
Hey big fan of your work. Stumble upon your channel at the start of the pandemic after replacing my old 2010 apex tv with the 2020/2021 (lol) Vizio MQ8 and was looking at reviewers to see if the tv was a good budget investment. Have learnt so much from you since then and I’m always looking forward to your video content. Especially the ones on tv and soundbars.
Anyways, I got the Hisense U6H now and was looking for a soundbar to complement it and seen that Hisense recently just came out with a new line of “Atmos” soundbar. You’ve sold me on VIZIO’s soundbars so originally I was just gonna get a 5.1.2 setup but now I’m think do you think I would be best to pair Hisense with Hisense? Would love to see you do a video on one of their new soundbars. Thanks for hearing me out. ✌🏽
Excellent. Thanks for the response!
Caleb had way too much fun with that edid shtick. thanks for the vid. I do enjoy this new series. great idea!
I consistently, truly enjoy the content that Caleb and Digital Trends release on a regular basis. However, I must say the skit with the TV and the individual sources had me in stitches...and my finger mysteriously hit "like" before I realized it 👍👍🤭🤭
Your reviews are very helpful with necessary information. Thanks a lot.But if Dolby Atmos is available with 2.0 Hdmi what are the other benefits of 2.1?
Great video! I would like to know more about HDR10+ Gaming, is it something that is necessary or important when choosing a new TV for gamers (PC, PS5, XBOX)?
Hey dude. Love your reviews. Quick question or two. I'm considering getting the TCL 85" QM8 TV and very concerned about the flimsy appearance of the stand so would you recommend either wall mounting or buying a heavy duty after market "universal" 85" capable replacement stand? And this is a two part question, 1) I've seen ( admittedly ) fairly small number of bad purchaser reviews on amazon for poor quality control for things including screen "ghosts/discolorations", so should I reconsider? and 2) Do you think prices will come down more below $2,200.0 ( hopefully under $2,000.00 ) by February 2024? Or are their any coupons or deals you would reccommend? My Sony Bravia 70" 1080p active 3D TV recently went screwy with the picture display then stopped outputting any image after it seemed to fix itself for a week or two after being unplugged for a day or so. Also what is the least expensive native 4K ultra hi def bluray player new on the market that performs well?
Hey Caleb thanks for awsome channel. Need some tips. Should i calibrate Lg G3 and what is the bennefit could you show some difference. And could you make a Lg G3, S95c against 8k Thanks.
Hi Caleb hello from Australia! I really enjoy your videos and get a lot out of these sessions. I have a question. I have a LG G2 65 connected to a Samsung Q70T soundbar with a rear speaker surround kit. So all the gear is fully Atmos supported. I get the Atmos icon come up on the TV and soundbar when I watch my movies and watch streaming services so there is no issues there in getting Atmos. My question is what is the better sound settings on the TV and my Xbox series X to process the sound signal? is better to have everything on pass-through and let the Soundbar process it all or have it set on Auto and let the TV and Soundbar sort it out? Or does it not really matter as long as I am getting the Atmos signal on all devices? Thanks
The Disney+ Dolby Atmos problem needs an update if it happens in the past few months: Disney+ has joined other streaming services to strip Dolby Atmos (and Dolby Vision) from ad-supported tier. (Tim did not say which tier he was in.)
Skit was fantastic!!
Moarrr Skits!!! I was actually laughing prettty hard. Great side of you to come out in the vid - a new appreciation for your style and humour Caleb. These were a good round of Q&A too
Best Dolby Atomos soundbar system to go with my 4k tv. Bose Smart Ultra soundbar with Bass module 700 or the Devialet Dione with 8 subwoofer built in the soundbar.
Hey Caleb, i have an LG C7 which only has HDMI 2.0, have it paired with a Samsung q990b and i get Atmos if i use the streaming apps on my tv and not an external device. Can you advise if this is true Atmos? Always love your content!
Really love this content! I’d love hear your thoughts on expanding surround sound in a room. Me and my wife recently moved into our new home. After months of research and your glowing reviews. I purchased a 65inch lg g2, I paired it with lg’s gallery gx sound bar. We love the flat against the wall look of the sound bar but I feel it lacks a little bit on surround feeling.
What would put with this sound bar to upgrade the surround sound? Floor standing speakers? Wall mounted? Our room is roughly 12 x 12 foot.
Thanks
Pretty small room in which to implement a full surround system with conventional separates, and a square room has a ton of acoustic issues when you try to dig into the “sub” basement area. Aren’t there optional surround modules designed for for the GX bar?
You really worked quite a bit on that EDID hey Caleb 😃
Same question as the last but I would be fine with rear speakers and the budget would be $600. Main uses would be gaming and movies. The sound bar has to be mountable..
About the Atmos, if you're using a soundbar Atmos might not show up on your TV because the TV's speakers are off. IE when I'm watching something with DV and Atmos only DV pops up on my screen but there's a green light on my soundbar that stays on for a second or two to show Atmos is on. I have a C1 not sure how other TVs handle this.
I do agree it is a mess. My "old" Samsung Q90R TV did not support eARC until a little over a year ago, and, to this day, does not support Dolby Atmos on Disney+. The only way to get Atmos on Disney+ through this TV is to use an external streaming device. I recently got an Apple TV 4K (2022), and it literally fixed... everything. Picture is better, sound is better, streaming is so much more responsive.
Long story short, get a very high quality external streaming device (cough Apple TV 4K cough). It fixes everything. Also, I recently got a Samsung HW-Q990C surround sound system, and... OH MY GOD! It's incredible.
Still rocking my lg 42LK520
Glad I found this..
Will the U7K review be coming soon? I'm keeping my eye on this for Black Friday deals. The Rtings review looks promising, but I always like to cross reference with other reviews.
😅 i liked the little side show. Subscribed bro. Good content
@32discodave We are all bro's bro
I got a question if you are using hdmi audio to a sound bar how does audio get to the sound bar if your using webos or smart cast from the tv?
A quick fire bonus round of questions at the end would be great in these videos eg "Digital Trends pick of TV under £500 or under £1000", no explanation, just fast answers. Also very curious to what TV you have Caleb?
Could u possibly review the 77in s90c? Thanks
I do have Atmos with Disney+ and every other app that supports it except for Max that is supposed to. For some reason Max Dolby Vision works but not Atmos and I do have Max that includes both. I see that it's common on Max because I saw lots of posts online about it. My tv is a U7G and the Vizio 5.1.4 Elevate.
Should I check "allow passthrough" in XB settings or leave unchecked...? I seem to get Atmos to show up more frequently if I leave it unchecked.
This is the way
Is it better to have a 65" tv delivered front Amazon or Wal-mart? Thanks
The only room in my house the makes sense to put my tv at the moment is in a room with a vaulted ceiling. I understand that this is not ideal for great audio. I currently am using an Lg 2.1 channel sound bar that does pretty well in making rich sound but not surround sound. Does my vaulted ceiling prevent me from having better audio?
Well that’s interesting. My soundbar doesn’t support Dolby Atmos, but apps like Disney+ will show the Dolby Atmos symbol. My Apple TV will also allow Atmos in the settings.
On my LG C1 and Samsung QN95a Disney plus wont show dolby atmos option but when i add a firestick to both TV's i can see the dolby atmos option. my AVR is compatible too ( Denon-X4700H )
I use dts x it auto adapts to the audio❤
Hey Caleb I have enjoyed your program immensely I have a 70 inch Panasonic 3D tv from 2009 it is a good tv still, has a good pic but I want to upgrade but I don’t want a tv that like this one will outdated in a year or two. I do like to stream and have an Apple TV box that I love. You can say that I am in the apple universe but not a gamer. I just don’t know if I should go Oleg or LCD. My living room is bright no direct sunlight but I watch mostly mid afternoon to night. I would love to say money is no object I want money well spent
Just got the Polk Sigma S4 a couple weeks ago for my girl's place and it's sounds great!
it'd Signa not Sigma
Is it possible that a person isn’t using the latest streaming app on whatever streaming device. Some people don’t allow apps to be automatically updated.
Good content. I know for sure my flagship Samsung UHD TV doesn’t support Dolby Atmos. I run my Sonos (7.1.4) and stream through an AppleTV. Disney shows Dolby Atmos but Netflix (I have the premium subscription for 4k) doesn’t allow me to have audio passed 5.1. Why is that?
Quick question. My sound bar supports Dolby atmos and is connected to the tv through eArc. All my hdmi ports are hdmi 2.1 on the tv but my Apple TV 4K is connected to the tv with an hdmi 2.0. Do I need it to be connected with an hdmi 2.1 cable in order to get Dolby atmos to work?
No mention of Sonos. Has Caleb reviewed it?
Samsung Q990C can be had for $700 if you are a Triple A member. It's a no brainer. One of the best soundbars out there, and 50% off the retail price via Triple A.
Hi Caleb! Just upgraded form a 65 inch Hisense H9G to a 77 inch LG C3 and it’s incredible! HOWEVER, after adjusting the picture settings to my liking (Apple TV 4K 3rd Gen, picture settings at Dolby Vision Cool and Balanced, OLED Pixel brightness 85) when watching scenes that have bright images on black backgrounds im seeing what looks like blooming but it must be glare from how bright it is? How can i enjoy the brightness AND the inky blacks with out what looks like blooming on this oled? Any picture recommendations to combat this?
@@migez1 I’m not looking for brighter I’m happy with the brightness as I stated it’s not even 100%. I haven’t changed anything other than using the built in presets. I’m looking to see if i need to do something to not have the blacks crushed and the brights highlights look like it’s causing blooming. I’m wondering if I need to turn the brightness down maybe? Hopefully Caleb has some professional insights.
As someone who owns the B&W formation lineup, the formation duos the bar, a pair of flexes , and two bass would it be worth selling and getting Nakamichi DRAGON
true dolby atmos is 7.1.4 surround sounds, majority of people use 2.1 stereo channel. dolby atmos is a niche feature and for movie buffer.
Is there an app (free or cheap) that runs on Google TV (in my case a QM8) without hooking up a laptop that will give stats (overlayed on screen) about the content being received and what the TV is doing? Similar to RUclips stats for nerds. For instance, frame rate, bit rate, tv refresh rate, metadata ( Dolby, HDR etc)
As an audio engineer, I can say this..don’t waste your money. Atmos is NOT truly heard through a sound bar. It costs 5-10k a speaker to mix audio for atmos which can even require a minimum of 6-10 speakers to properly aligned and wired (depending on the film/music) . Trying to squeeze that much of spatial audio into a mono sound bar is a gimmick. Think of it like this , it’s like going to the movie theater expecting the action scenes to give you an experience of thrill. Only to realize there’s a small boombox system to listen to it . 🤷🏾♂️ In my opinion
Me having same issue with my Apple TV 4K and new Sony A80L. Apple TV 4K directly connect to tv hdmi2 and tv hdmi 3 earc is connected to soundbar earc. With tv pass through enabled or disabled both also no luck in getting Atmos signal on my soundbar when playing Netflix on Apple TV 4K. However, playing via built in Netflix app on tv works perfectly with Dolby Atmos signal on soundbar. This is so frustrating as my previous lg gx oled tv had been working perfectly with Dolby Atmos sound being played on sound bar. Please help thank you 😢
Can i play 4k 120fps game in ps5 while using s95b with q990c alongside dolby atmos sound effect???
If you dont have rear speakers, you don't have atmos. Up firing speakers on the bar does not equal atmos. Atmos is an extens to 5.1 and 7.1. Atmos isn't just height channels. Soundbar and sub with upfiring speakers is 3.1.2.
Why Bose removes (or doesn't offer) one additional HDMI in port from it's soundbars?
I’m pretty sure Dolby Atmos doesn’t work with the Disney + app on my Samsung Q70R. But it does with my Chromecast with Google TV directly into my receiver. So I just use that.
I hope you get to review the Sony A75L.
I guess he will never touch upon anything below X90 range. Their eyes always on top of the line TVs which are no brainer to recommend.
I just bought a VIZIO 75" Class MQX Series 4K QLED and VIZIO M-Series Elevate why is it so difficult to get atmos sound?
Hi, I have a Sony 5.1 Dolby Digital Plus Home Theatre with me and recently bought Samsung Neo QLED 4K TV 55" wherein Output of Dolby Atmos isn't been the same through Home Theatre as it doesn't support.
Kindly suggest me the Resolution
Thank You,
Islur😊
Disney +, --"Well, 'Hi' there, how're we doing today!!!"--HAHAHAHAHA!
I wish Disney+ would just get their crap together and fix the app audio, it often breaks, then they fix it, then it breaks again. They broke it earlier this year and still haven't fixed it, meanwhile Netflix, Prime and Stan can output surround and Atmos just fine.
The only Flagship TV that has 4 HDMI 2.1 ports that I'm aware of is the LG G3. Trying to have PC Xbox PlayStation Blu-ray and shield all connected, so happy to know that the Blu-ray doesn't need it but how about the shield?
C2 65 has 4 x 2.1 ports
Lg s75qr has 2.1 and earc outputs
OK, while I appreciate all the information, I laughed too much & had to start watching again. All your videos are fantastic.
from that skit, I'm now 100% convinced we're descendants of apes!
I think the answers to both questions are not quite correct!
1. I've S95C which supports Dolby Atmos, yet, with Tizen's Disney+ Hotstar app, I get Dolby Digital plus as sound codec. I tried streaming from Apple 4K 3rd gen device and Amazon 4k stick, same DD+ output. I think it has to do with the subscription type and geo region where the streaming service is availed.
2. I've tried plugging hdmi cable directly from bluray player to the TV's HDMI port vs plugging into Soundbar's HDMI port. There is indeed some degradation in picture with the latter. The PQ feels like upscaled with denoising in effect and with some artifacts than true 4k PQ!
@@migez1 I already mentioned the Dolby Atmos service also may be geo region dependent. I do have premium subscription already.
I loved that skit!!!
HDMI is a racket. I stick to 2.1 all Toslink. We got 3 bids on upgrading to a home theater system. They all said they would use our existing main speakers so there would different brands. Interest rates are high so we got a Certificate of Deposit instead. The cable vendor we like has paragraphs on his HDMI page talking about how fragile the signals are.
Are you really suggesting optical is better than HDMI? Its not even close dude. Get with the times.
Sure the person who asked the question should not have any problems with the lack of HDMI ports. But if we were to add a gaming console to the equation which do support and benefit from 4K120hz and we have a soundbar with, unfortunately too common, fake HDMI 2.1 passthrough then we have a problem. This is the bane of my existence with my Panasonic 55" JZ980 oled TV. I have a HTPC that I also game with, PS5 and an LG 5.1.2 atmos soundbar with the said faux HDMI 2.1 port that cannot pass through 120hz signal. And the TV has eARC hogging one of the two full bandwidth HDMI ports. If I want to make full use of my rig then I have to manually switch cables depending on if I want to use my HTPC or PS5. 🙈
I recently bought 50" TCL C805 to be strictly used as a computer monitor and to my surprise TCL did the smart thing and delegated one of the HDMI 2.0 ports for eARC, leaving both HDMI 2.1 ports free! God damnit, why was this so hard I have to ask you other TV manufacturers! 🤬 TCL, a bloody B-grade TV manufacturer, got it right when you big names with bug budgets did not! I am tempted to sell my Panasonic and get a bigger TCL C805 for TV use, but as impressive as micro leds are the OLED is still king and I do not want to give that up. 😭
TL,DR,: why high end TVs still do not support sending loseless HD Audio to soundbars via eArc?
my biggest "beef" with my C9 OLED (I havnt heard about a change in this) is that It will not send Atmos HD Loseless audio down to my sound bar. my setup is very simple: a NAS holding some UHD BD REMUXES (with loseless HD ATMOS). my C9 is connected automatically to my NAS via the local network and I have an ATMOS b&o stage soundbar (no upward firing speakers but it has built in ATMOS Loseless support).
in order to enjoy HD audio I need to use an external streamer like shield and hook directly to the soundbar. i dont want another component. my TV is my player and the center of my media
this seems to me like a very basic thing - why is it not supported?
please address this question. I have had many sleepless nights over this. is this still the case? are there newer models that do support this? maybe its time Digital Trends put some pressure on TV manufacturers for this - its a big missing piece of the puzzle
I have an LG C1. When watching Disney Plus, Prime tv, Max and switch to Dolby. The sounds is very low. When I don't choose dolby voice audio is super low. Does anyone how to fix this or is having the same issue. I end up raising the volume but when I do that, the sound of an explosion sounds even louder than the voice audio.
I'll still never understand the point of a Dobly Atmos sound bar. They should simply rename it to something else instead, as it's not actually atmos and it's a bit of a false advertising imho.
They are selling a ton just because of it... Its tv /soundbar companies' greatest selling gimmick now.. Dolby is happy too
Might be a daft question but most TVs have 2*hdmi 2.1 and 2*hdmi 2.0 allegedly so why do you have to switch to enhanced hdmi to even watch 4k60 without HDR, dosent that mean the hdmi 2 are natively 1.4
"This is the wayyyy" 😂
Spatial Audio
Dolby Atmos
Apple Music
LG TV
Nothing to play these on, despite 5.1 connection to Marantz 1509
Not sure if anyone else has this issue, I try using Dolby Digital from my Xbox series X, I don't have HDMI 2.1. There's a horrible audio delay unless I use the stereo uncompressed audio with PCM on the TV.
I had the same issue. I did some very quick research, and it seems it’s a super common issue when you select the Dolby option in the Xbox interface. Not sure why, just know that it happens
@@chalkoneup326 it's a bummer for sure. The audio is so much better with Dolby Digital. I can tolerate the delay playing Skyrim, but playing cod or racing games I can't handle the delay
That last question was super reassuring for me. I have a Samsung QN900A with an HWQ950A soundbar. So the tv has 4 hdmi 2.1 ports, but 3 of those ports are: ps5, series x, switch. Then obviously the 4th port is the soundbar. So when I decided I wanted a dedicated 4k player and picked up a Panasonic UB820, I had to route it through the soundbar. So really appreciated that confirmation that I'm not losing anything (other than qsymphony) by running it through the soundbar.
you need someone else's confirmation to be convinced you're not losing any video signal quality by getting your hdmi cable pass through your soundbar? why can't you see it for yourself?
@@Sas-wk9lj Never hurts to hear someone knowledgeable confirm it. (Shrug)
@@TennesseeMule you think 'someone knowledgeable' tested all soundbars (including your soundbar and TV model) to confirm that!? Does that someone know what kind/quality hdmi cable you're using? Or that your Panasonic bluray player's compatibility with your soundbar and TV? Try and trust your own eye to check for any difference in video quality between the direct and indirect configuration.
I want to buy an Oled TV in 2024. I'm not worried about burn in since I don't leave static images on screen for long. The TV will also be used as a PC monitor. It will probably be on for 6+ hours a day. Will the TV being left on that long kill the TV in 1-2 years. I have an LED TV that I have been using as a monitor for 5 years with no issues. Will an Oled last as long in the same use case?
Hide your task bar, use a dark desktop background, turn on the screen saver. I personally would get an LCD TV for a monitor unless your careful to mange these things, and really need the contrast ratio. Also wouldn't recommend QD OLED for a monitor due to the sub-pixel structure which makes text look weird.
@@mckirkus Thank you for the advice. although like I said I'm not concerned with burn in just worried that the TV will die after 2 years with that much usage. and as far as the sub pixel layout is concerned I don't think it will be an issue cause it will be mostly for viewing content or playing games. plus I heard Samsung said they found a way to improve text clarity.
Thank you for your time and posting. Great stuff as always. The animation was a bit creepy. :) I've never owned a TV (I'm 68). I have only used my computer monitors. And I just upgraded two years ago to 32" 1440p. :) But I still enjoy your content.
U7k review???
John Stamos is holy
Any TV that doesnt have at least 2 full bandwidth 2.1 HDMI ports is unnaceptable. And the eARC needs to be the last port and i couldnt care less what version it is. So Port 1 full power, port 2 full power, an optional whatever port 3 and eARC at the bottom. Any other design is simply incorrect.
Got 4 2.1 n my lg all 1204k ready and one is earc couldn’t agree more
Hey Caleb..Psst, Caleb...
*This is the way*
Hi Caleb,
I have a 83 inch Sony A90J and was wondering if upgrading to A95L worth it. Is there that much difference to justify the upgrade? Thanks
Nice skit that was funny.
That video was creepy, mate 😂
this is the wayyy... lol
Why does Sony continue not have 4 HDMi 2.1? They charge so much more than LG and yet are not competitive in terms of features.
In addition LG will be using their ALPHA 10 chip that is going to give Sony a lot of competition.
The whole arc earc dolby atmos thing is a mess.. Noone knows anything.. Especially when you own a samsung TV.. Even their customer care know nothing!
Haha that skit was funny
Atmos is great atmos bring great in 90% labelled atmos SADLY NOT but all surround formats have been that way it’s not the firmst it’s the quality of the sound and found mix they put in the medium. I played a GameCube game the other night from 2002 in pro logic 2 via of emulation thru the Dolby pc app it was better than 90% of the 2022 23 games iv played for surround sound because whoever worked on the sound DID THERE JOB … most atmos on Netflix is a waste of space
God that skit was terrible, I love it!