I'd like to see older gen high end speakers from each decade compete in a blind audio test. Each playing same thing. See if people can tell the Era by expected sound quality.
and also its kinda not possible to have an objective result from that as audio is VERY Subjective. clear upgrades would probably come from Surround tech noth in optimization of software and ease of installation, but if you talk about stereo for music/movie watching , no freaking luck.
There are so many factors to consider, though. Driver size, driver material, 2-way, 3-way, bookshelf, floor standing, open baffle, dynamic vs electrostatic vs planar magnetic, pairing with a subwoofer or not, crossover topology, amplification being used and how it might color the sound of each speaker, and the list goes on. It just seems like a crap shoot to me, lol.
With my brother's audio setup, when he increases the volume above normal levels, you really can't tell until you try to speak over it. Pretty mind blowing experience that I never thought of. Good quality audio doesn't make you wince when it's loud
Most of those full sound systems don't even get above negative volume levels just because of how blooming loud they can go. Usually keep mine at minus 20 to minus 15 and even that is fairly loud
For sure, turn up the car speakers in your old beater and you'll remark about how loud it is. Turn your high quality set up the same way, and it feels quieter, there just is less distortion that I typically associate with loud volume.
1:00 see this is what companies need to do, they always remove something and then keep the price of the product the same price and make you buy an additional product at a higher price, instead they just separated them and then made them so when bought together they are the same price as last gen.
@@KuharaRin he was saying he is glad Sony did it the right way. Think about phone companies taking the brick out and charging the same as the last gen phone for example is ho most business do it
@@dougle03 I mean yeah but imagine I'm a customer that is in the market for a new phone, i don't own a power adapter with the specifications that will take full support to the charging ability of the phone and I'm obligated to buy a charger for more money, i don't believe that is fair, I think all tech companies should give you the option to accept a charger in this case free of charge when buying a new phone.
We had a 1st gen Echo in our master bathroom for listening to music in the morning ruclips.net/user/postUgkxABghAEkaIDGZfHRBH3D3rBrlraNmnC71 and while in the shower. I didn't realize how tinny and awful the sound output on the original Echo was until we replaced it with the Studio. It was a sonic upgrade far beyond what I was expecting. Just wow. I love it because it's like having speakers IN the shower. My friend likes it because the music is so loud that she can no longer hear me singing. So that's a win-win.
@@WARnTEA I think they're trying to be creative like Nintendo is and Sega was... But they've obsessed over random numbers and the letters S and X way too much
Please never cease to use an advanced vocabulary (or at least that's how i percieve them) in your videos. English isn't my first language and your channels have been my main source of learning both tech and proper english in the past several years. I wish you nothing but the best for the forthcoming times, mr linus
still using my bose 5.1 sorround sound setup from 2014 which cost me 4500$ back then but i can tell u guys it still sounds better than 95% of everthing what is getting released nowadays, ordered tons of stuff online just to compared it haha
I bought it and maybe it depends on room or something but actually virtual ceiling or whatever its called effect is almost negligible. OFC maybe you have to be quite close to your tv to hear. Mine is about 6 meters away. Soundwise its really good. base is powerful enough to shake floor and windows and neighbours love it too.
Me: I am in the market for a sound bar. Clicks on sponsor link and sees $1,200 Me: I am in the market for the same blown-out speakers I've been using for years.
You can usually find used studio monitors for pretty cheap. The JBL LSR305 is pretty common and they should be under $200, since they're only ~$300 brand new.
samsung has the most reasonable sound bars, cheap bar with good quality is the a450, and their best deal IMO is the q65t, good surround for not a bad price
I have the 5000 with the bigger unfired back speakers and smaller sub. Couldn't be happier with the setup. Went with the smaller 5000 an sub cause of our room size. Great quality sound bar.
and support for actual rear speakers is a huge deal for many users, with many users asking about such support. Although they could have built up-firing speaker to them and make the setup 7.1.4
Not sure that the price is more compelling. Where I lived I paid at launch 1500€ for the Sony HT-ST5000 in 2017 so for the soundbar and the subwoofer. This year the HT-A7000 costs 1299€ and I have to pay either 399€ for the SA-SW3 or 799€ for SA-SW5. So it means 1700€ at best or 2100€ for the best subwoofer which looks like to be in the same league that the HT-ST5000 one.
It really isn't; You can get a full 7.1 setup with second hand speakers (which don't degrade much with age), a mid range reciever, and a home made subwoofer capable of sub 30hz for the price. If you don't have space for 7.1, you could get a much more capable stereo setup for a couple of hundred. Don't buy 1k+ sound bars, especially from the likes of Sony and LG.
@@coldcraze dude, realy? second hand and DIY subwoofer... and for this soundbar you dont pay only for the soundbar, you gat also the conectivity wich sony offers and the entire ecosystem is realy great how the talk to each other...and i bet with you, that with an old 7.1 setup, a midrange receyver and a "handmade" subwoofer, you dont get the same surround experience when waching a movie or playing games. for music you just get a teufel for this money
@@georgwarhead2801 it's called DIY dude there's a massive community based on it, it's not "hand made". You don't make the whole thing, you make a box for the driver you choose. My subwoofer can do 110 decibels overall and 100 decibels at 20hz, nearly as capable as something worth double the build price; But you don't know what that means. As for the rest of your post, utter crap. You clearly have zero idea what you are talking about. Speakers don't get "old" as they really only use magnets and thus don't really deteriorate with age as easily as most electronics, the value doesn't stagnate. Are you trolling or do you actually believe what you wrote?
PSA: You should usually plug the PS5 into HDMI port 4 on most Sony BRAVIA’s because on those TVs only HDMI ports 3 and 4 are HDMI 2.1 compatible, and since HDMI port 3 is the only EARC port, that only leaves HDMI port 4 for other HDMI 2.1 devices I.e. the PS5.
I found something on eBay that will by pass the earc 120 HDMI problem it is a spiller too say it has 3 8K/60 and 4K/120 2.1 FPS VRR ALLM HDMI ports compatible with Dolby ATMOS Dolby vision DTX What I did was plug this in one of the 120 2.1 ports have both the Xbox and PS5 connected too it then have the soundbar connected too the earc port I really want too get this sound bar when you compare it too the LG S95QR 9.1.5 it’s the only sound bar on the market that will cover you with all the sound and video formats like 120 VRR ALLM Dolby atmos DTSX But the only thing stopping me is I can pay the same price or a little less and get a subwoofer and rear surround sound speakers included The LG S95QR 9.1.5 is $1,499 ( in Australia) I get a subwoofer and two , rear surroundsound speakers for $200 less The Sony HT-A7000 7.1.2 is $1,699 and I have too pay and extra $1,600 if I want too get the rear surroundsound, speakers and subwoofer www.ebay.com.au/itm/166443200405?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=705-154756-20017-0&ssspo=4w870d3-trk&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=V03XXdMaSEa&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Could you guys someday visit the engineering department of a tier 1 company like Sony, where the engineers are coming up with these kinds of products? I think it would be fascinating to se how these products are actually developed!
Unfortunately, the truth is the design of mainstream consumer products like soundbars are largely driven by product designers and marketing teams before any real audio engineer gets a chance to lay their hands on it. Soundbars in general are just about optimizing sound delay between all the various drivers to create an artificial sound field. They're more about tricking the brain than anything.
@@Mech0z Exactly! I have got the HT-ST5000 and it's cheaper as a bundle. The Woofer on the 5000 also appears to be bigger than this new textured surface version
Just wish they'd let use our own subwoofers. I want to get into Dolby Atmos but I hate the idea of spending on another subwoofer when I've already got really good one
@joser9237 you can. If you have surround system with a receiver all you need is a new receiver with more channels and atmos support and you can add ceiling speakers.
I bought a Sony 65KD A8 Oled 18 months ago. The speakers are mounted behind the screen and they're decent but not great. So I bought a JBL 9.1 Atmos soundbar to go with it. Has wireless subwoofer and rear speakers and I love it.
These companies are too greedy, instead of selling Five, and make more profit they would rather sell two not thinking that if you sell cheaper you'll beat your competitors anytime.
You can get Dolby Atmos support with three other lower-priced Sony soundbars as well: The HT-A5000, the HT-A3000 and the G700. Only the A5000 and A7000 offer the dedicated up-firing drivers on the top of the bar though and they do not include an external sub in the box. The G700 comes bundled with a 100w wireless sub in the box so from a bang-for-the-buck perspective at $599 (often on sale as low as $399) nothing else even comes close to it.
This soundbar is wider than my TV, never mind the TV stand. Also it costs more than my TV which was a grand! I have a couple of midfield monitors on stands fed through an optical to analogue converter and honestly a good 2.0 with the TV's downmixing has been adequate. I've not even plugged in the sub yet. 😅
Optical Audio is heavily used in the audio industry, and I personally use it with my older 5.1 receiver because I can connect my computer and my TV to that receiver and have it work. It can still do lossless, however, it doesn't do Atmos, but not many things even have that currently, as 7.1 standards (which is the most optical can carry) are still high cost to produce
Optical has the potential to support any number of channels that may be needed at home now or in the future. They just need to upgrade the standard to increase the bandwidth. I wish they would!
Also a word of advice. If you buy a Sony TV, always get or use a Sony Soundbar or System to go with it. I learned that the hard way just yesterday. I have a Sony 55 Inch X900H and a TV update apparently borked any and all ability for my JBL Bar 5.1 with Wireless Subwoofer to be functional with my Sony TV via any input (eArc/ARC nor TOSlink - neither works at any setting on the TV). I'm getting by with the subpar internal speakers for now until I can get to Best Buy and Pick up the HT-A7000 Soundbar with the SW-5 Subwoofer. It is expensive, but if it means I don't have any more audio issues, I'd gladly bite that bullet.
My dad just picked up the A90J and this sound bar. Overall setup went alright. And then at one point there were updates for the sound bar and subwoofer. After that it went down hill. We lost audio to the TV totally and sound bar. We had to reconfigure the sound bar to the TV and everything came back. But if you used the sound bar remote to adjust the sound, the sound would disappear.
I'm still using a Sony HT-Z9F from 2017 and that setup screen looks exactly the same. this would definitely be on my list for my next sound system. This soundbar alone looks like a win.
Had my HT-A7000 for about a year now. I didn’t add sub or surrounds. My room is open plan kitchen, lounge and dining with tall ceilings and timber floors. Not great acoustically! This sound bar has been amazing, once tuned in, it’s only flaw has been voice on some formats. I’ve tried it using the Bravia TV as the centre speaker and without. Only thing that makes a difference is using the voice mode on the Bravia menu. But that sacrifices a lot of mid range from the source. I am spoilt though, my previous setup was Onkyo 9.2 and Klipsch speakers in a dedicated HT. But as Linus said, there are people in my house that are less than tolerant of multiple source control, and when things go out of sync (HDMI control forgets what’s on or off), it causes too many headaches and F this Sh!t arguments. Waiting for a sale on the Sub & maybe surrounds though it might be a bit long in its lifecycle now to spend more money on it.
This soundbar is very forward thinking from Sony. They put in an integrated sub for the smaller spaces where separate subwoofers might not make logical sense, and then added the capability to use an external one when the buyer has the soundbar in a larger space. Granted, Sony isn’t the first one to do this. Yahama has done this plenty of times with their more low-budget options and even with a couple of their higher end options like the YSP-1600 (an all-in-one 5.1 soundbar), and I think LG and Samsung have tried it a few times as well. Then there’s the Sennheiser Ambeo soundbar which is crazy expensive but from every review of it I’ve read, it’s a damn good sounding piece of audio kit. I might be looking into this a couple months down the road.
I'm glad that decent sound bars exist as they're leagues better than any TV built-in speakers, but they really can't replace quality separates. Good to have options though.
@@walterd7331 this channel is still a relatively Good place for reviews, but mainly first impressions. In depth reviews are on the LTT channel. I still think short circuit is pretty reliable because when they are sponsored they state it pretty clearly. Most of the videos here are unboxings and first impression though. But then again, everyone has different opinions about reviews so it's okay if you don't like them anymore.
Optical doesn't support anything above so called dolby hd because it's been abandoned, not because it can't. If its not Atmos I use optical. The cables are basically indestructible and cheap. I even ran a chain over 100ft no issues. The kicker, in theory even video is doable with theoretically no data loss. With optical networking being a big thing you never know.
@@H31MU7 it's incredible. I have in my living room and the sound stage is the craziest I've heard from a wireless system. Definitely add the sub though!
4:12 The feet on that Bravia TV can actually go the other way providing enough space to fit the soundbar under the TV. I thought it was a design oversight at first, until I realized that setting up my Bravia.
I'm still using the HT-ST5000. I got a discount from Best Buy by bundling it with a new Bravia (which was on sale) and then I called up and got Best Buy CS to price match an even better deal that Fry's had online and the refunded me the difference. Original price was $1500, I paid $900. I also saved $800 off the original TV price as well. I know everyone likes to talk about Samsung but I still love Sony products.
@@seeyouspacecowboy14 they removed the subwoofer and charge $700 less and for $700 you can get a better subwoofer than the one they would have built into the soundbar anyway
@@samw5924 yeah I know but What if you want it in one single unit and I know it's expensive but within a year it's going to drop drastically and probably also be on sale for Black Friday or be like 700 bucks next February Just like how the new Bravia was 1800 for a 65 and now it's going for fucking 1300
the reason the Atmos seemed to take effect with this product, to the extent that the guy was so "impressed" has alot to do with the very high ceiling in the room, an iphone speaker would manage some surround sound effects in a room like that, the contrary of what he said.
Wow, the fact that it was able to bounce sound down from above with that setup you have bodes well for me. Where my TV is set up, the ceiling is a low and with the popcorn ceiling texture. Tempted to get this device, TBH. Not right away mind, but as an option for the future.
I've had several soundbars and a surround sound package but it was only when I purchased an budget AVR and a pair of budget stereo speakers that I realised what I had been missing (stereo imaging, thumping base) besides going down this route one can always add to it overtime! subwoofer, surround speakers you could even get height speakers to get the full 'non-virtual' Dolby Atmos experience. Nowadays AVRs are so simple to setup, they even walk you through the process! "Remember movies are made up of 50% visuals and 50% audio and there are occasions when the audio out does the visuals"
@@wtfyooutube would you rather watch a movie with no volume or listen to a movie with no visuals? Hence 50/50 Our eyes follow our ears to where the story lives.
I was looking for soundbar till a friend recommended me to look at 5.2 home theater system first... No regret I got to 7.2 theater system... Sound much better and at least if amplifier fail I can get new one and hook up to old speakers unlike sound bar which either you buy new or repair and wait for it.
For this kind of price, especially if you want an actual surround sound system without dealing with a receiver and if space is availalbe you should get the Nakamichi 9.2.4 surround sound system. Comes with a powerful soundbar, two subwoofers, and four surround speakers with built in Dolby Atmos for around $1,400.00. I use it for my home theater and it shakes the walls.
I have the Vizio equivalent since my TV's are all Vizio already. It's the 18 speaker Elevate sound bar. It's probably not a good as the Sony system, but it works seamlessly with the basement TV and allows me to wirelessly place speakers anywhere I want.
I bought this sound bar about a year ago plus the subwoofer and surround speakers. The advantages are easy to install and sound effect is decent, but the sound quality is not for audiophile or people want to rock the room.
Yea, I paid 2k for full theater sound built into my walls. No thanks. I feel like there's bars out there far more cost effective that will do a great job in a setting like an apartment. Even ones with Atmos. If you're in an apartment, you can't really crank your sound anyways.
If you are after the purity, soundbar is not even an option. but if you want effects and cracking noises at high level, it's an option. 08:00 I can hear same effect with my stereo sony integrated amplifier and yamaha floor standing speakers. it's not a technology "only" about electronics but sound processing and phase shifting. You don't need 1k for that just 500$ enough and more clear sound, more wide sound stage.
I love it how we still get optical cuz this allows me to connect my old record player. Making it rather easy to play vinyl on newer hardware. And i could buy a new player but i just really like the one I have
It really doesn't "need" a sub (it gets down to 30hz without loosing 1 db... for 20hz u still need a big boy) and it really sounds better (I heard both in treated show-rooms).
I've tested this at work. (tech store) and it's really good. But IMO not better than a $400-500 soundbar that came with a subwoofer. Maybe higher, but definitely not more than $1000
I still have the ST-5000 which has an amazing sound quality. Problem with Sony speakers is, I switched from a Sony Brava to an LG tv cause LG simply delivered a better tv.. And here the problem starts.. The two systems clash all the time! When you start the tv you always get directed to the homepage of the soundbar to select the port channel you'd like to use. Okay, fine.. However, a lot of times it ignores that step and freezes which means you'll have to reboot both the tv and sound system. Worst case the soundbar freezes completely and you'll have to unplug it! Did some research on this and Sony wasn't going to fix this because this problem doesn't exist when you use a Sony tv :) So if you don't have a Brava.. skip it for this amount of money!
I’ve got 5.1.2 in my living room and i don’t see myself going to a sound bar ever. But these do look pretty nice for a addition to the Sony tv or really any tv. Would love to hear one and see just how they sound.
That’s no question. Soundbars are a lifestyle product. It’s the equivalent of buying Bluetooth headphones even though you can get the same quality from wired headphones for 5x less.
@@justsaying993 that is a really apt name. Some of the problem is wife(partner) approval/ some people hate the wires everywhere when theirs a soundbar that SEEMS like a middle ground. Theirs also wisa, but you'll need a power cord. Though One could argue that's a lifestyle thing ill admit
I totally agree!!!! I have a Pioneer AVR mated with Pioneer center and sub with JVC front towers and rears. If I turn it up past 30 the dishes in the kitchen cupboards on the floor above ARE NOT SAFE!!! 🤣 When I play my Xbox or watch a movie it feels like I'm in an Atmos Cinema
Hi (again this same day) ShortCircuit, I appreciate your honest review on this Sony system. I will post this again for those of you who couldn't read my last comment post for the LG soundbar S95QR. If you're looking to spend less on a soundbar and still get excellent quality, check this out: LG S75Q is what our family purchased and its the little brother to the LG S95QR running at 5.1 so that is 2 virtual speakers less and let me tell you all here it is STELLAR. It has not disconnected the TV to black-screen or caused any other devices to disconnect yet. So far we have been using it for a week. The bottom line for our household is it has Night Mode, where it reduces all bass and reduces all treble and keeps a 'mid-sound' which is good for people sleeping above or below the sound system on different floors if in an apartment/or house at night time. When turned off and in normal mode, the LG Meridian patented sound is much like a live concert. Why buy the S75Q over a higher end Sony soundbar? The price. You will have less bass, however, overall still good for a medium sized living room for total immersion. Coming from an "audiophile" upbringing and listening to all kinds of speakers, and a few models I tested at the store from LG this year, I want to recommend S75Q for the best quality sound, for the least cost if you want true uncompressed 5.1 sound. The LG S75Q is 5.1.2 sound which with the .2 at the end means more immersion. Download the LG soundbar app first, and enable Surround mode. This turns on your rear speakers. We hear: Raindrops falling down over our heads, we thought we were wet from the movie, yes really! We hear: A medium-loud bass if you set the bass up to level 6, which is max, you'll be totally immersed. We hear: Beautiful treble sound and chorus singing from live choruses picking up all highs and lows of men and women, and yes, I'll be PC here, even transgender voices. We can listen so low as 5 volume and still enjoy it and have not gone above 30 as its so so so so loud. Live concerts sound (almost like) you are there. CDs and high-quality Blu-ray music disc albums blew me away, just like a live concert does. Here are some tracks from one audiophile to another to test out your speaker system's acoustics from highs to lows. Sorry no 3D surround tests in music that we have used yet: Signals from Bob - Ott. This is a bass music test and used with real artists today to test their bass speaker. Be careful not to overpower your bass speaker or it will blow with this one, so like any test start low volume. Listen now with your sound sys: ruclips.net/video/xUtlrbOkxN0/видео.html J-E-N-O-V-A Dreamweaver by Nobuo Uematsu. This is a full vocal with real chorus, real orchestra and a few synthesized instruments. You will test the full capability of your sound system. This song has less bass, and more treble than bass as it is a high pitched good/evil song which connects with your soul. Listen now with your system: ruclips.net/video/2zvHLGPpkO0/видео.html Gus Black - Paranoid cover, modern recording, on Californification OST. This is a great live test if a band were to really play in your living room. Instruments: Piano, drums, acoustic guitar (amplified), bass guitar, 1 synthesizer, human voice. This song is to be played for a live concert in your livingroom so you don't blow the pictures off the wall. Listen now with your system: ruclips.net/video/WLmXyi5LP-g/видео.html A last note: If you're listening with LG Meridian set it to either AI detection mode or Music mode in the Equalizer (EQ for you audiophiles but normal people don't know that one) for the best effect of a live sound. Meriam-Webster Dictionary audiophile noun a person who is enthusiastic about high-fidelity sound reproduction. Edited for grammar. Thank you for this review, Short Circuit Exsosus The Swedish audio phile guy.
@@felixwiden yes it is better. It gives a better sense of immersion than the arc. Musciality is very similar. The bass of the sub is also very strong and has a good tightness. I never really used the sonos app and always streamed through spotify to the bar anyway, so the chromecast built in is very helpful in that regard, not to forget this has dtsx support, sonos doesn’t. Also the inputs on this one are plenty, with my ps5 working fully through the bar’s input. The surrounds get plenty loud without distorting too. The room calibration worked wonders and opened up the soundstage after doing so. Sound felt less harsh than the arc with a good full sound coming from the bar itself, and when the sub came into the mix it was even better. Can definitely recommend it, especially if you don’t want to be tied down by the sonos ecosystem. This one works with anything google home
I would purchase this immediately IF the setup would allow for more than one sub and 2 satellites. Two subs is necessary these days for optimal home theater LF range, and having two extra surrounds would also go a long way. I also think reviewers should mention in their vlogs that this new soundbar does not have the capability to run more than one subwoofer. It's an important piece of info for people to know who are looking at options for Home Theater outside of avr and pre pros.
Having bought both the (ht a7000 , sw5 , rs5 ) and Ht a9 with the sw5 , the 360 sound mapping performance in my opinion is better on the ht a9 , you get a wider soundstage and it sounds more equal having 4 of the same speaker's. The ht a7000 sounded good with the front stage but the rs5 rear performance was a lot more muted compared to the amount front sound the ht a7000 can produce .
Unfortunately I learned the hard way that Sony Soundbars do not work with LG TVs. I purchased an LG c155-inch OLED and a Sony x8500 soundbar. After a few weeks of frustration I finally learned on the net that they do not work together. So yesterday I had a LG SP8YA delivered and it's incredible!
I agree, I'm running Sony ES grade hardware driving some Canadian made speakers and it's way more than most people would ever need. Fb market place is great for used home audio
@@thomasmorel1447 no I have 7 small speakers and one subwoofer, all lined up neatly behind my 2 monitors, wiring is clean and space uncluttered. In many regards, old technology can perform just as well as new technology. Only diehard fans who fall for gimmicks will find a reason to buy such a stupidly overpriced sound bar
@@EvanCaritopTV May I ask whey you 7 speakers all in a line? I presume the system was originally a surround system. Two larger speakers would probably give you better sound. But if you're just after a bar / wall of sound - I remember my high school bedroom days of hooking up 6 speakers in a 11x11' bedroom just because :)
I was in Best Buy and demoed the a5000 and couldn’t figure out where the sound was coming from. It was really amazing. I can’t image how the a7000 must sound 🤷♂️
I'd be interested to see a comparison of this soundbar(+ sw+ surround speakers) VS Receiver and 5.1.4 for the same price. What would sound better and give you the best sound experience? I'm planning to get Dolby Atmos setup, but I'm not ready to spend a fortune.
Nothing beats a proper atmos setup with dedicated channels. Sound bars are for people with space restrictions. I have listened to both and proper 5.1.4 trumps any soundbar
I have the HT A7000. It's great with the Dolby Virtualiser audio setting. There seems to be a distortion 'limiter' for explosive sounds or gun shots. How can I switch the limiter off. I like the SWs3 but the small SONY RS3 rears are disappointing and they don't have much presence even when on Max. I may consider the larger RS5s but the additional money for the 4 hour charging seems pointless . On the whole I like HT A7000 very much. 'Spotify' music bluetooth through the A7000 sounds brilliant with the Small subwoofer. (The rears however do not seem to come on at all (without the TV) although the blue lights do activate.)
"I live in an appartment I dont need a subwoofer" "1300$ Sound bar" "I SAID I LIVE IN AN APARTMENT AND I'M NOT RICH" Also not being able to fit the bar between the legs of the TV of the same brand is completely 100% stupid.
@@nephrium no you've got it wrong. Apartment dwellers like myself are poor. Condo owners are rich, townhome owners are wealthy, homeowners are politicians and other types of criminal.
I worked for Sony sales a couple years back, it has nothing to do with apartments. The old soundbar had awful trouble connecting to the sub. So Sony decided to just sell it separately.
bruh i had 7.1 surround sound in my tiny 2 bedroom apartment (it cost 875 CAD a month so you know it was tiny), just dont turn it up, the important thing is the quality of the sound and where each sound channel is projected from (which is why sound bars will always be trash compared to a surround sound system at any volume) for that amount of money, just get your self a decent 5.1 AVR or something and a mildly competent set of speakers, and you will be more then happy in an apartment, just gotta control the volume and know when you can pump it (when everyone is at work and for what ever reason you are not)
Agreed. I have a full 7.1 setup in an apartment and I have to be extremely judicious as to when I let her rip. Mostly it's just for really good sound at modest volumes. But movie night with the homies gets loud 😎
@@placeholder_yt_en you can get a pair of very good powered speakers/monitor speakers for the same price, or less, that'd happily take optical in and sound much better. Will also take up less desk space doing it too, this thing is freaking long.
I am slowly investing into a Bose sound system, currently have the Bose tv speaker soundbar, getting the Bose sub 500 module and once the soundbar 600 releases I will get that cause that has Dolby atmos with a good price of only 600$ cad
Compared to higher end speakers its not bad actually. There are mid-tier prosumer speaker packages that cost $3-5K without batting an eye. And there are some that cost $10K, and some that are $200K (that's just nuts though). All depends on where you are in life. Sales people at my work drop $1000 like its nothing, but they have 5-10x my salary every year. But to friends of mine who make 50% of what I do, they see some of my purchases and think I'm crazy. Everybody remembers when a $100 video game was the only splurge item you could get on your allowance or part time job.
@@Daphoid I'm assuming you're trying to make hifi seem more approachable, but this price is bad strictly from a price to performance perspective (which I assume is what the person was getting at, could be wrong). Soundbars are always going to be marked up because of the form factor and convenience which is exactly what you're paying for so when you're comparing it to what other soundbars can do, the price really is justified. That being said, this level of performance can be out done for cheaper, granted that means researching speakers and making the space/testing out different configurations as opposed to plug-in and let the soundbar do the work for you. So yeah the price itself for good audio isn't overkill, especially when you consider how much you're getting without needing to set anything up.
True, but you also end up paying a lot more for that setup as well. And, you also have to figure out where those speakers are going to be placed in the room and where the cables for each of them are going to be run/hidden. That's a lot of time and effort that goes into the planning there. Also, once you have that system setup, you can really only use it in that room. The benefit of a soundbar is that it's essentially a "portable" audio solution. You can pick it up and move in from room to room at any time. You can use it in the garage or out on the back patio whenever you like. You can even throw it in the back of your car and take it over to a friend's house if you want for a move night over there. Try doing any of those things with a traditional receiver and surround speaker set up and you are in for one heck of a large project.
I love this channel, but when I see this kind of review it makes me question how seriously I should be taking them. The A7000 is getting pretty trashed by most good home theater reviewers. The upcoming A9 system, though, sounds very promising.
Not sure what you're talking about there as What Hi-Fi? magazine just recently called the Sony A5000/A7000 the best Dolby Atmos enabled sound bars in the world today.
I'd like to see older gen high end speakers from each decade compete in a blind audio test. Each playing same thing. See if people can tell the Era by expected sound quality.
Wrong chanel buddy.There's audio chanel that could do that. But its hard to convince them to actually do it
@@robertavadani5946 I wouldnt say its the wrong channel, linus and the team test anything tech related.
and also its kinda not possible to have an objective result from that as audio is VERY Subjective.
clear upgrades would probably come from Surround tech noth in optimization of software and ease of installation, but if you talk about stereo for music/movie watching , no freaking luck.
There are so many factors to consider, though. Driver size, driver material, 2-way, 3-way, bookshelf, floor standing, open baffle, dynamic vs electrostatic vs planar magnetic, pairing with a subwoofer or not, crossover topology, amplification being used and how it might color the sound of each speaker, and the list goes on. It just seems like a crap shoot to me, lol.
That would be really awesome!
With my brother's audio setup, when he increases the volume above normal levels, you really can't tell until you try to speak over it. Pretty mind blowing experience that I never thought of. Good quality audio doesn't make you wince when it's loud
Most of those full sound systems don't even get above negative volume levels just because of how blooming loud they can go. Usually keep mine at minus 20 to minus 15 and even that is fairly loud
For sure, turn up the car speakers in your old beater and you'll remark about how loud it is. Turn your high quality set up the same way, and it feels quieter, there just is less distortion that I typically associate with loud volume.
1:00 see this is what companies need to do, they always remove something and then keep the price of the product the same price and make you buy an additional product at a higher price, instead they just separated them and then made them so when bought together they are the same price as last gen.
still kinda sucks that "we aren't ripping you off" is a selling point :/
Except that this time the sound bar without bundle is 700 dollar cheaper?
@@KuharaRin he was saying he is glad Sony did it the right way. Think about phone companies taking the brick out and charging the same as the last gen phone for example is ho most business do it
@@dougle03 I mean yeah but imagine I'm a customer that is in the market for a new phone, i don't own a power adapter with the specifications that will take full support to the charging ability of the phone and I'm obligated to buy a charger for more money, i don't believe that is fair, I think all tech companies should give you the option to accept a charger in this case free of charge when buying a new phone.
Like all these big companies greedy fukin bastards🤬
We had a 1st gen Echo in our master bathroom for listening to music in the morning ruclips.net/user/postUgkxABghAEkaIDGZfHRBH3D3rBrlraNmnC71 and while in the shower. I didn't realize how tinny and awful the sound output on the original Echo was until we replaced it with the Studio. It was a sonic upgrade far beyond what I was expecting. Just wow. I love it because it's like having speakers IN the shower. My friend likes it because the music is so loud that she can no longer hear me singing. So that's a win-win.
"They call it a textured surface." LOOK, we don't buy Sony products for their great naming conventions, we've given up that fight a LONG time ago. LOL
WH-1000XM4: 👀
They knocked it out of the park with playstation and wisely decided to use sequential numbers instead of whatever the fuck microsoft is doing.
@@WARnTEA I think they're trying to be creative like Nintendo is and Sega was... But they've obsessed over random numbers and the letters S and X way too much
@@KyleDavis328 series x sounds cool tho
Saman Miran WH-CH710 lol
Please never cease to use an advanced vocabulary (or at least that's how i percieve them) in your videos. English isn't my first language and your channels have been my main source of learning both tech and proper english in the past several years. I wish you nothing but the best for the forthcoming times, mr linus
7:54 that reaction was so genuine, holy cow
He legit thought that bird flew in :-D
still using my bose 5.1 sorround sound setup from 2014 which cost me 4500$ back then but i can tell u guys it still sounds better than 95% of everthing what is getting released nowadays, ordered tons of stuff online just to compared it haha
Sony Executives when their child is born: “He is beautiful, let’s name him CH-1000X…”
😂
XM1 if it is a boy, XF1 if female.
Bold of you to assume this kid is a 1000 and not 200 or 300. That's some premium kid you got there 😆
actually CH-1000X is not a thing, that would not be the technical way of naming and way too easy, so the actual name is WH CH-710n.
Its gets weird when the second child is born. You'd think they would go with CH-2000x. but nope. Its CH-1250x.
I bought it and maybe it depends on room or something but actually virtual ceiling or whatever its called effect is almost negligible. OFC maybe you have to be quite close to your tv to hear. Mine is about 6 meters away. Soundwise its really good. base is powerful enough to shake floor and windows and neighbours love it too.
Its always dependent on the room.
Me: I am in the market for a sound bar.
Clicks on sponsor link and sees $1,200
Me: I am in the market for the same blown-out speakers I've been using for years.
lol same wanted something to replace my built in projector speaker but no today
You can usually find used studio monitors for pretty cheap. The JBL LSR305 is pretty common and they should be under $200, since they're only ~$300 brand new.
samsung has the most reasonable sound bars, cheap bar with good quality is the a450, and their best deal IMO is the q65t, good surround for not a bad price
Don't worry I'm in the market for a $1200 sound bar!
Yep. Also 54 minutes ago. Ok
I have the 5000 with the bigger unfired back speakers and smaller sub. Couldn't be happier with the setup. Went with the smaller 5000 an sub cause of our room size. Great quality sound bar.
Sony finally did what I've been saying they should for years with this unbundling thing. This price is far more compelling.
and support for actual rear speakers is a huge deal for many users, with many users asking about such support. Although they could have built up-firing speaker to them and make the setup 7.1.4
Not sure that the price is more compelling. Where I lived I paid at launch 1500€ for the Sony HT-ST5000 in 2017 so for the soundbar and the subwoofer.
This year the HT-A7000 costs 1299€ and I have to pay either 399€ for the SA-SW3 or 799€ for SA-SW5.
So it means 1700€ at best or 2100€ for the best subwoofer which looks like to be in the same league that the HT-ST5000 one.
It really isn't; You can get a full 7.1 setup with second hand speakers (which don't degrade much with age), a mid range reciever, and a home made subwoofer capable of sub 30hz for the price.
If you don't have space for 7.1, you could get a much more capable stereo setup for a couple of hundred.
Don't buy 1k+ sound bars, especially from the likes of Sony and LG.
@@coldcraze dude, realy? second hand and DIY subwoofer... and for this soundbar you dont pay only for the soundbar, you gat also the conectivity wich sony offers and the entire ecosystem is realy great how the talk to each other...and i bet with you, that with an old 7.1 setup, a midrange receyver and a "handmade" subwoofer, you dont get the same surround experience when waching a movie or playing games. for music you just get a teufel for this money
@@georgwarhead2801 it's called DIY dude there's a massive community based on it, it's not "hand made". You don't make the whole thing, you make a box for the driver you choose. My subwoofer can do 110 decibels overall and 100 decibels at 20hz, nearly as capable as something worth double the build price; But you don't know what that means.
As for the rest of your post, utter crap. You clearly have zero idea what you are talking about. Speakers don't get "old" as they really only use magnets and thus don't really deteriorate with age as easily as most electronics, the value doesn't stagnate. Are you trolling or do you actually believe what you wrote?
PSA: You should usually plug the PS5 into HDMI port 4 on most Sony BRAVIA’s because on those TVs only HDMI ports 3 and 4 are HDMI 2.1 compatible, and since HDMI port 3 is the only EARC port, that only leaves HDMI port 4 for other HDMI 2.1 devices I.e. the PS5.
Why can’t you plug the ps5 into the sound bar itself?
@@BrianKeeganMusicbc there's only one HDMI port, so where you'll be without video lol
@@the_garniiics its pass through so as long as its connected to the TV with earc, you can connect the PS5 to it directly
I found something on eBay that will by pass the earc 120 HDMI problem it is a spiller too say it has 3 8K/60 and 4K/120 2.1 FPS VRR ALLM HDMI ports compatible with Dolby ATMOS Dolby vision DTX
What I did was plug this in one of the 120 2.1 ports have both the Xbox and PS5 connected too it then have the soundbar connected too the earc port
I really want too get this sound bar when you compare it too the LG S95QR 9.1.5 it’s the only sound bar on the market that will cover you with all the sound and video formats like 120 VRR ALLM Dolby atmos DTSX
But the only thing stopping me is I can pay the same price or a little less and get a subwoofer and rear surround sound speakers included
The LG S95QR 9.1.5 is $1,499 ( in Australia) I get a subwoofer and two , rear surroundsound speakers for $200 less
The Sony HT-A7000 7.1.2 is $1,699 and I have too pay and extra $1,600 if I want too get the rear surroundsound, speakers and subwoofer
www.ebay.com.au/itm/166443200405?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=705-154756-20017-0&ssspo=4w870d3-trk&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=V03XXdMaSEa&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
@@sanzau8669This soundbar is no match for Bose Ultra. I returned my Sony.
Could you guys someday visit the engineering department of a tier 1 company like Sony, where the engineers are coming up with these kinds of products? I think it would be fascinating to se how these products are actually developed!
A lot of companies don’t give anyone access to their engineering department
Unfortunately, the truth is the design of mainstream consumer products like soundbars are largely driven by product designers and marketing teams before any real audio engineer gets a chance to lay their hands on it. Soundbars in general are just about optimizing sound delay between all the various drivers to create an artificial sound field. They're more about tricking the brain than anything.
@@cup_and_cone yes, but even just talking to the guy that's designing the PCBs or sourcing the speaker drivers would be a fascinating little insight.
I think Sony kind of released a lot of these videos talking about some of their products?
I don't think that happens in a single day
Bruh. That audio bounce off was so good, I recognized the distribution with my phone speakers
for a second there I thought the "IMMERSIVE AE" button said "IMMERSIVE AF" kinda funny
next year problably)
Write over the E to make it an F with a black sharpie lol
I’m impressed that unbundling the subwoofer actually dropped the price. That rarely happens.
it is a subwoofer instead of a charger. after all
Define dropping the price, the HT-ST5000 it replaces had an MSRP of 1500$ including a subwoofer, this with a subwoofer is a lot more expensive
@@Mech0z Exactly! I have got the HT-ST5000 and it's cheaper as a bundle. The Woofer on the 5000 also appears to be bigger than this new textured surface version
Just wish they'd let use our own subwoofers. I want to get into Dolby Atmos but I hate the idea of spending on another subwoofer when I've already got really good one
@joser9237 you can. If you have surround system with a receiver all you need is a new receiver with more channels and atmos support and you can add ceiling speakers.
I bought a Sony 65KD A8 Oled 18 months ago. The speakers are mounted behind the screen and they're decent but not great. So I bought a JBL 9.1 Atmos soundbar to go with it. Has wireless subwoofer and rear speakers and I love it.
I would love to see dolby atmos setups at different budgets!
Same! Lots of potential!
These companies are too greedy, instead of selling Five, and make more profit they would rather sell two not thinking that if you sell cheaper you'll beat your competitors anytime.
Well here you go, you can have a look at mine....
ruclips.net/video/xvdqI5qZa6g/видео.html
You can get Dolby Atmos support with three other lower-priced Sony soundbars as well: The HT-A5000, the HT-A3000 and the G700. Only the A5000 and A7000 offer the dedicated up-firing drivers on the top of the bar though and they do not include an external sub in the box. The G700 comes bundled with a 100w wireless sub in the box so from a bang-for-the-buck perspective at $599 (often on sale as low as $399) nothing else even comes close to it.
This soundbar is wider than my TV, never mind the TV stand. Also it costs more than my TV which was a grand! I have a couple of midfield monitors on stands fed through an optical to analogue converter and honestly a good 2.0 with the TV's downmixing has been adequate. I've not even plugged in the sub yet. 😅
"This has amazing sound"... proceeds to crab rave.
Crave Rave is Linus Tech Tips equivalent to Cinebench for audio benchmarks.
@ Crab Rave is God, Crab Rave is everything, Crab Rave is life.
RUclips copyright bullshit bruh
thats what i just put in
Optical Audio is heavily used in the audio industry, and I personally use it with my older 5.1 receiver because I can connect my computer and my TV to that receiver and have it work. It can still do lossless, however, it doesn't do Atmos, but not many things even have that currently, as 7.1 standards (which is the most optical can carry) are still high cost to produce
Optical has the potential to support any number of channels that may be needed at home now or in the future. They just need to upgrade the standard to increase the bandwidth. I wish they would!
Also a word of advice. If you buy a Sony TV, always get or use a Sony Soundbar or System to go with it. I learned that the hard way just yesterday. I have a Sony 55 Inch X900H and a TV update apparently borked any and all ability for my JBL Bar 5.1 with Wireless Subwoofer to be functional with my Sony TV via any input (eArc/ARC nor TOSlink - neither works at any setting on the TV). I'm getting by with the subpar internal speakers for now until I can get to Best Buy and Pick up the HT-A7000 Soundbar with the SW-5 Subwoofer. It is expensive, but if it means I don't have any more audio issues, I'd gladly bite that bullet.
I bought the st-5000 two years ago, it was super heavy compared to my Vizio sound bar. My viewing experience on my tv had definitely gotten better.
My dad just picked up the A90J and this sound bar. Overall setup went alright. And then at one point there were updates for the sound bar and subwoofer. After that it went down hill. We lost audio to the TV totally and sound bar. We had to reconfigure the sound bar to the TV and everything came back. But if you used the sound bar remote to adjust the sound, the sound would disappear.
I'm still using a Sony HT-Z9F from 2017 and that setup screen looks exactly the same. this would definitely be on my list for my next sound system. This soundbar alone looks like a win.
You get this soundbar? I also have the HTZ9F & I'm thinking about upgrading to this.
I ended up getting the Samsung Q990C Soundbar. It's quite awesome.
This was almost LTT channel quality on ShortCircuit. I'm impressed; both by the video and by the soundbar.
*It's amazing that this soundbar's length size is larger than my own table*
Had my HT-A7000 for about a year now. I didn’t add sub or surrounds. My room is open plan kitchen, lounge and dining with tall ceilings and timber floors. Not great acoustically! This sound bar has been amazing, once tuned in, it’s only flaw has been voice on some formats. I’ve tried it using the Bravia TV as the centre speaker and without. Only thing that makes a difference is using the voice mode on the Bravia menu. But that sacrifices a lot of mid range from the source. I am spoilt though, my previous setup was Onkyo 9.2 and Klipsch speakers in a dedicated HT. But as Linus said, there are people in my house that are less than tolerant of multiple source control, and when things go out of sync (HDMI control forgets what’s on or off), it causes too many headaches and F this Sh!t arguments. Waiting for a sale on the Sub & maybe surrounds though it might be a bit long in its lifecycle now to spend more money on it.
This soundbar is very forward thinking from Sony. They put in an integrated sub for the smaller spaces where separate subwoofers might not make logical sense, and then added the capability to use an external one when the buyer has the soundbar in a larger space. Granted, Sony isn’t the first one to do this. Yahama has done this plenty of times with their more low-budget options and even with a couple of their higher end options like the YSP-1600 (an all-in-one 5.1 soundbar), and I think LG and Samsung have tried it a few times as well. Then there’s the Sennheiser Ambeo soundbar which is crazy expensive but from every review of it I’ve read, it’s a damn good sounding piece of audio kit.
I might be looking into this a couple months down the road.
“Textured Surface” how astute. Can’t wait for the mid model refresh with colour options, to be called Coloured Textured Surface.
I love the happiness in Linus’ face when he was listening to crab rave
I'm glad that decent sound bars exist as they're leagues better than any TV built-in speakers, but they really can't replace quality separates. Good to have options though.
That's actually cool that they unbundled the sub woofer.
I love these reviews, where they absolutely max out on everything, as if money is no object.
Sounds amazing coming out of the shitty speakers on my monitor. Hahaha
IS this channel still an unbiased source of reviews?...
I wonder what my TV's built in speakers sound like. I don't dare to try listening to them...lol
@@CaveyMoth wow, smooth
@@walterd7331 this channel is still a relatively Good place for reviews, but mainly first impressions. In depth reviews are on the LTT channel. I still think short circuit is pretty reliable because when they are sponsored they state it pretty clearly. Most of the videos here are unboxings and first impression though. But then again, everyone has different opinions about reviews so it's okay if you don't like them anymore.
@@walterd7331 this channel to me is for people with money....like I'm a doctor but I work once a month money..like Stephan Strange I guess.
i just bought mine 2days ago and it is a big difference love this soundbar. I bought mine AND GOT THE RS5 REARS TOO.
Yeah, the optical sound connection was amazing... on my PS2... along with my S-video
Optical doesn't support anything above so called dolby hd because it's been abandoned, not because it can't. If its not Atmos I use optical. The cables are basically indestructible and cheap. I even ran a chain over 100ft no issues. The kicker, in theory even video is doable with theoretically no data loss. With optical networking being a big thing you never know.
I love optical toslink, and still use it for my blu-ray player. But I don't need anything better because I have a 2.1 setup.
Optical still is good in many situations, and it supports 8 channels of lossless audio at 48khz which is not too shabby.
I’m really hoping you will get to review the HT-A9
Would love to see a review of the new HT-A9 wireless speaker system from Sony.
likewise!
Me too! Those look very very interesting
yep, thinking of getting those and the SW5
@@H31MU7 it's incredible. I have in my living room and the sound stage is the craziest I've heard from a wireless system. Definitely add the sub though!
4:12 The feet on that Bravia TV can actually go the other way providing enough space to fit the soundbar under the TV. I thought it was a design oversight at first, until I realized that setting up my Bravia.
Could you guys ever do a non-sponsored soundbar video so I know which one you really think I should buy?
I'm still using the HT-ST5000. I got a discount from Best Buy by bundling it with a new Bravia (which was on sale) and then I called up and got Best Buy CS to price match an even better deal that Fry's had online and the refunded me the difference. Original price was $1500, I paid $900. I also saved $800 off the original TV price as well. I know everyone likes to talk about Samsung but I still love Sony products.
Linus: "Now seems as good a time as any to look at our..."
Me: "Sponsor?"
Linus: "... Accessory package."
Me: "I've been conditioned too well."
Hah, you thought he would use such a seamless sponsor segue?
The best soundbar set up you can buy!
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What’s the drop off like on this video once he revealed the price? +1
I didn’t even make it that far in the video, I just wanted to see a sound bar that he endorsed so I checked the link.
When he revealed no subwoofer
@@seeyouspacecowboy14 they removed the subwoofer and charge $700 less and for $700 you can get a better subwoofer than the one they would have built into the soundbar anyway
@@samw5924 yeah I know but
What if you want it in one single unit and I know it's expensive but within a year it's going to drop drastically and probably also be on sale for Black Friday or be like 700 bucks next February
Just like how the new Bravia was 1800 for a 65 and now it's going for fucking 1300
@@seeyouspacecowboy14 it has side firing subs. He shows them @3:45
the reason the Atmos seemed to take effect with this product, to the extent that the guy was so "impressed" has alot to do with the very high ceiling in the room, an iphone speaker would manage some surround sound effects in a room like that, the contrary of what he said.
Wow, the fact that it was able to bounce sound down from above with that setup you have bodes well for me. Where my TV is set up, the ceiling is a low and with the popcorn ceiling texture. Tempted to get this device, TBH. Not right away mind, but as an option for the future.
I've had several soundbars and a surround sound package but it was only when I purchased an budget AVR and a pair of budget stereo speakers that I realised what I had been missing (stereo imaging, thumping base) besides going down this route one can always add to it overtime! subwoofer, surround speakers you could even get height speakers to get the full 'non-virtual' Dolby Atmos experience. Nowadays AVRs are so simple to setup, they even walk you through the process!
"Remember movies are made up of 50% visuals and 50% audio and there are occasions when the audio out does the visuals"
50/50?
Yeah... no.
@@wtfyooutube would you rather watch a movie with no volume or listen to a movie with no visuals? Hence 50/50
Our eyes follow our ears to where the story lives.
@@Antibackgroundnoise
watch a movie without the sound. No doubt.
I was looking for soundbar till a friend recommended me to look at 5.2 home theater system first... No regret I got to 7.2 theater system... Sound much better and at least if amplifier fail I can get new one and hook up to old speakers unlike sound bar which either you buy new or repair and wait for it.
For this kind of price, especially if you want an actual surround sound system without dealing with a receiver and if space is availalbe you should get the Nakamichi 9.2.4 surround sound system. Comes with a powerful soundbar, two subwoofers, and four surround speakers with built in Dolby Atmos for around $1,400.00. I use it for my home theater and it shakes the walls.
Not truly wireless…if you care.
7:47 is so satisfying for me. I could listen to it all day.
This sound bar looks impressive! I have the space for a proper sound system, but I rather not deal with the extra speakers and have a simple set up.
I have the Vizio equivalent since my TV's are all Vizio already. It's the 18 speaker Elevate sound bar. It's probably not a good as the Sony system, but it works seamlessly with the basement TV and allows me to wirelessly place speakers anywhere I want.
Can't wait to buy this for my $150 TV...
I bought this sound bar about a year ago plus the subwoofer and surround speakers. The advantages are easy to install and sound effect is decent, but the sound quality is not for audiophile or people want to rock the room.
Yea, I paid 2k for full theater sound built into my walls. No thanks.
I feel like there's bars out there far more cost effective that will do a great job in a setting like an apartment. Even ones with Atmos. If you're in an apartment, you can't really crank your sound anyways.
I just built a 5.2.2 system for 1100£ how on earth did u spend 2k ?
So, do you recommend a soundbar, or something else when living in an apartment with a 160 sft livingroom? Not like I can run cables into the walls
If you are after the purity, soundbar is not even an option. but if you want effects and cracking noises at high level, it's an option. 08:00 I can hear same effect with my stereo sony integrated amplifier and yamaha floor standing speakers. it's not a technology "only" about electronics but sound processing and phase shifting. You don't need 1k for that just 500$ enough and more clear sound, more wide sound stage.
All Sony products recently are crazy good, even the new Xperia phones are one of the best on the market imo.
I love it how we still get optical cuz this allows me to connect my old record player. Making it rather easy to play vinyl on newer hardware. And i could buy a new player but i just really like the one I have
Linus Tomorrow: The Soundbar I Regret Buying...
@Ian Visser which basically is already a win for Sony.
Why?
watching this on my phone i can really appreciate the sound fidelity
Do a review on the Sennheiser AMBEO soundbar, one you'll probably regret buying due to its higher price.
It really doesn't "need" a sub (it gets down to 30hz without loosing 1 db... for 20hz u still need a big boy) and it really sounds better (I heard both in treated show-rooms).
@@toxicparasite3031 I never said it doesn't need anything
I honestly love videos like these this is my favourite hobby
So good it turned my phone speaker into a full audio setup
I've tested this at work. (tech store) and it's really good. But IMO not better than a $400-500 soundbar that came with a subwoofer. Maybe higher, but definitely not more than $1000
I still have the ST-5000 which has an amazing sound quality. Problem with Sony speakers is, I switched from a Sony Brava to an LG tv cause LG simply delivered a better tv.. And here the problem starts.. The two systems clash all the time! When you start the tv you always get directed to the homepage of the soundbar to select the port channel you'd like to use. Okay, fine.. However, a lot of times it ignores that step and freezes which means you'll have to reboot both the tv and sound system. Worst case the soundbar freezes completely and you'll have to unplug it! Did some research on this and Sony wasn't going to fix this because this problem doesn't exist when you use a Sony tv :) So if you don't have a Brava.. skip it for this amount of money!
hmm that's good to know, I have an LG C3 and was looking into HT-a5000 because of the proper 4k 120hz VRR ALLM passthrough but this is a turn off hmmm
Am I only one that likes how Sony's naming their product model not easy to say. Cuz I find it cool.
I’ve got 5.1.2 in my living room and i don’t see myself going to a sound bar ever. But these do look pretty nice for a addition to the Sony tv or really any tv. Would love to hear one and see just how they sound.
Sound bars are an insult after using a good 5.1 system
@@neiliewheeliebin yeah I would tend to agree. But some people just aren’t into home theater and or a sound bar may be good enough for a bedroom.
Just bought this today with a subwoofer, and rear speakers!!!!❤❤❤
All these soundbars... but I still think that nothing can beat a good quality AVR with good quality separate speakers
That’s no question. Soundbars are a lifestyle product. It’s the equivalent of buying Bluetooth headphones even though you can get the same quality from wired headphones for 5x less.
Some people don't want a lot of speakers in their house. Im not an audiophile so the build in soundbar in my lg c7 is enough for me.
@@justsaying993 that is a really apt name.
Some of the problem is wife(partner) approval/ some people hate the wires everywhere when theirs a soundbar that SEEMS like a middle ground. Theirs also wisa, but you'll need a power cord. Though One could argue that's a lifestyle thing ill admit
I totally agree!!!! I have a Pioneer AVR mated with Pioneer center and sub with JVC front towers and rears. If I turn it up past 30 the dishes in the kitchen cupboards on the floor above ARE NOT SAFE!!! 🤣
When I play my Xbox or watch a movie it feels like I'm in an Atmos Cinema
Hi (again this same day) ShortCircuit, I appreciate your honest review on this Sony system.
I will post this again for those of you who couldn't read my last comment post for the LG soundbar S95QR.
If you're looking to spend less on a soundbar and still get excellent quality, check this out:
LG S75Q is what our family purchased and its the little brother to the LG S95QR running at 5.1 so that is 2 virtual speakers less and let me tell you all here it is STELLAR. It has not disconnected the TV to black-screen or caused any other devices to disconnect yet. So far we have been using it for a week. The bottom line for our household is it has Night Mode, where it reduces all bass and reduces all treble and keeps a 'mid-sound' which is good for people sleeping above or below the sound system on different floors if in an apartment/or house at night time. When turned off and in normal mode, the LG Meridian patented sound is much like a live concert.
Why buy the S75Q over a higher end Sony soundbar? The price. You will have less bass, however, overall still good for a medium sized living room for total immersion. Coming from an "audiophile" upbringing and listening to all kinds of speakers, and a few models I tested at the store from LG this year, I want to recommend S75Q for the best quality sound, for the least cost if you want true uncompressed 5.1 sound. The LG S75Q is 5.1.2 sound which with the .2 at the end means more immersion.
Download the LG soundbar app first, and enable Surround mode. This turns on your rear speakers.
We hear: Raindrops falling down over our heads, we thought we were wet from the movie, yes really!
We hear: A medium-loud bass if you set the bass up to level 6, which is max, you'll be totally immersed.
We hear: Beautiful treble sound and chorus singing from live choruses picking up all highs and lows of men and women, and yes, I'll be PC here, even transgender voices.
We can listen so low as 5 volume and still enjoy it and have not gone above 30 as its so so so so loud.
Live concerts sound (almost like) you are there.
CDs and high-quality Blu-ray music disc albums blew me away, just like a live concert does.
Here are some tracks from one audiophile to another to test out your speaker system's acoustics from highs to lows. Sorry no 3D surround tests in music that we have used yet:
Signals from Bob - Ott. This is a bass music test and used with real artists today to test their bass speaker. Be careful not to overpower your bass speaker or it will blow with this one, so like any test start low volume.
Listen now with your sound sys: ruclips.net/video/xUtlrbOkxN0/видео.html
J-E-N-O-V-A Dreamweaver by Nobuo Uematsu. This is a full vocal with real chorus, real orchestra and a few synthesized instruments. You will test the full capability of your sound system. This song has less bass, and more treble than bass as it is a high pitched good/evil song which connects with your soul.
Listen now with your system: ruclips.net/video/2zvHLGPpkO0/видео.html
Gus Black - Paranoid cover, modern recording, on Californification OST. This is a great live test if a band were to really play in your living room. Instruments: Piano, drums, acoustic guitar (amplified), bass guitar, 1 synthesizer, human voice.
This song is to be played for a live concert in your livingroom so you don't blow the pictures off the wall.
Listen now with your system: ruclips.net/video/WLmXyi5LP-g/видео.html
A last note: If you're listening with LG Meridian set it to either AI detection mode or Music mode in the Equalizer (EQ for you audiophiles but normal people don't know that one) for the best effect of a live sound.
Meriam-Webster Dictionary
audiophile
noun
a person who is enthusiastic about high-fidelity sound reproduction.
Edited for grammar.
Thank you for this review, Short Circuit
Exsosus
The Swedish audio phile guy.
Got it in last week, it is amazing!!! It replaced my sonos arc :)
did u notice a big difference?
Is it better?
@@felixwiden yes it is better. It gives a better sense of immersion than the arc. Musciality is very similar. The bass of the sub is also very strong and has a good tightness. I never really used the sonos app and always streamed through spotify to the bar anyway, so the chromecast built in is very helpful in that regard, not to forget this has dtsx support, sonos doesn’t. Also the inputs on this one are plenty, with my ps5 working fully through the bar’s input.
The surrounds get plenty loud without distorting too.
The room calibration worked wonders and opened up the soundstage after doing so.
Sound felt less harsh than the arc with a good full sound coming from the bar itself, and when the sub came into the mix it was even better.
Can definitely recommend it, especially if you don’t want to be tied down by the sonos ecosystem. This one works with anything google home
The quality is audible from your smile when the bass drops!
I would purchase this immediately IF the setup would allow for more than one sub and 2 satellites. Two subs is necessary these days for optimal home theater LF range, and having two extra surrounds would also go a long way. I also think reviewers should mention in their vlogs that this new soundbar does not have the capability to run more than one subwoofer. It's an important piece of info for people to know who are looking at options for Home Theater outside of avr and pre pros.
Having bought both the (ht a7000 , sw5 , rs5 ) and Ht a9 with the sw5 , the 360 sound mapping performance in my opinion is better on the ht a9 , you get a wider soundstage and it sounds more equal having 4 of the same speaker's.
The ht a7000 sounded good with the front stage but the rs5 rear performance was a lot more muted compared to the amount front sound the ht a7000 can produce .
3:59 the spacers are to allow the foam/rubber surround of the speakers, to have enough travel room when turned up.
Yo Thanks for including the part where you sit in front of the tv woke trying the setup, felt so natural and that I was hanging out with you guys.
Ah yes, you can't regret buying it if you can't even afford one.
Small price to pay
@Blake Belladonna This soundbar about half the price of my TV lol…
Sony products. Always overpriced and overrated, even as far back as my days as a Certified Electronics Technician. Some things never change.
Unfortunately I learned the hard way that Sony Soundbars do not work with LG TVs. I purchased an LG c155-inch OLED and a Sony x8500 soundbar. After a few weeks of frustration I finally learned on the net that they do not work together. So yesterday I had a LG SP8YA delivered and it's incredible!
I just got a 7 piece speaker system with a subwoofer from around 2003 and it sounds just as good as modern hardware lol
I agree, I'm running Sony ES grade hardware driving some Canadian made speakers and it's way more than most people would ever need. Fb market place is great for used home audio
Yes but you have 7 big speakers and wires everywhere. Hope your speaker system is not in your living room.
@@thomasmorel1447 no I have 7 small speakers and one subwoofer, all lined up neatly behind my 2 monitors, wiring is clean and space uncluttered. In many regards, old technology can perform just as well as new technology. Only diehard fans who fall for gimmicks will find a reason to buy such a stupidly overpriced sound bar
@@thomasmorel1447 if you live like a slob, i suppose that would be a problem. functional human beings today arent.
@@EvanCaritopTV May I ask whey you 7 speakers all in a line? I presume the system was originally a surround system. Two larger speakers would probably give you better sound.
But if you're just after a bar / wall of sound - I remember my high school bedroom days of hooking up 6 speakers in a 11x11' bedroom just because :)
I was in Best Buy and demoed the a5000 and couldn’t figure out where the sound was coming from. It was really amazing. I can’t image how the a7000 must sound 🤷♂️
I'd be interested to see a comparison of this soundbar(+ sw+ surround speakers) VS Receiver and 5.1.4 for the same price.
What would sound better and give you the best sound experience?
I'm planning to get Dolby Atmos setup, but I'm not ready to spend a fortune.
Nothing beats a proper atmos setup with dedicated channels. Sound bars are for people with space restrictions. I have listened to both and proper 5.1.4 trumps any soundbar
I have the HT A7000. It's great with the Dolby Virtualiser audio setting. There seems to be a distortion 'limiter' for explosive sounds or gun shots. How can I switch the limiter off. I like the SWs3 but the small SONY RS3 rears are disappointing and they don't have much presence even when on Max. I may consider the larger RS5s but the additional money for the 4 hour charging seems pointless . On the whole I like HT A7000 very much. 'Spotify' music bluetooth through the A7000 sounds brilliant with the Small subwoofer. (The rears however do not seem to come on at all (without the TV) although the blue lights do activate.)
"I live in an appartment I dont need a subwoofer"
"1300$ Sound bar"
"I SAID I LIVE IN AN APARTMENT AND I'M NOT RICH"
Also not being able to fit the bar between the legs of the TV of the same brand is completely 100% stupid.
They're Urban Canadian. Apartment dwellers are rich, the ULTRA rich have houses :D
@@nephrium no you've got it wrong. Apartment dwellers like myself are poor. Condo owners are rich, townhome owners are wealthy, homeowners are politicians and other types of criminal.
It's for people who live in penthouse apartments.
I worked for Sony sales a couple years back, it has nothing to do with apartments. The old soundbar had awful trouble connecting to the sub. So Sony decided to just sell it separately.
Well in Europe if you are rich you live in an aparment in city center… poorer people live outside city in houses.
Your smile at the end tells me that you were impressed.
Can we have a tech quickie video about Arc and eArc as i am confused between the two
earc is just enhanced arc. it allows higher bitrate passthrough.
Ur explaining so lively bro.. keep it up that energy
bruh i had 7.1 surround sound in my tiny 2 bedroom apartment (it cost 875 CAD a month so you know it was tiny), just dont turn it up, the important thing is the quality of the sound and where each sound channel is projected from (which is why sound bars will always be trash compared to a surround sound system at any volume)
for that amount of money, just get your self a decent 5.1 AVR or something and a mildly competent set of speakers, and you will be more then happy in an apartment, just gotta control the volume and know when you can pump it (when everyone is at work and for what ever reason you are not)
Agreed. I have a full 7.1 setup in an apartment and I have to be extremely judicious as to when I let her rip. Mostly it's just for really good sound at modest volumes. But movie night with the homies gets loud 😎
I've got one of these coming and the rears.
I'll get a sub later
$1300 for a soundbar? Yeah I'll just get dedicated speakers and they will sound significantly better.
I know right. Just get a decent AV receiver and a 5.1 setup. Boom.
The point is convenience.
@@placeholder_yt_en you can get a pair of very good powered speakers/monitor speakers for the same price, or less, that'd happily take optical in and sound much better.
Will also take up less desk space doing it too, this thing is freaking long.
I am slowly investing into a Bose sound system, currently have the Bose tv speaker soundbar, getting the Bose sub 500 module and once the soundbar 600 releases I will get that cause that has Dolby atmos with a good price of only 600$ cad
That price is insanity
Compared to higher end speakers its not bad actually. There are mid-tier prosumer speaker packages that cost $3-5K without batting an eye. And there are some that cost $10K, and some that are $200K (that's just nuts though).
All depends on where you are in life. Sales people at my work drop $1000 like its nothing, but they have 5-10x my salary every year.
But to friends of mine who make 50% of what I do, they see some of my purchases and think I'm crazy.
Everybody remembers when a $100 video game was the only splurge item you could get on your allowance or part time job.
@@Daphoid I'm assuming you're trying to make hifi seem more approachable, but this price is bad strictly from a price to performance perspective (which I assume is what the person was getting at, could be wrong). Soundbars are always going to be marked up because of the form factor and convenience which is exactly what you're paying for so when you're comparing it to what other soundbars can do, the price really is justified. That being said, this level of performance can be out done for cheaper, granted that means researching speakers and making the space/testing out different configurations as opposed to plug-in and let the soundbar do the work for you. So yeah the price itself for good audio isn't overkill, especially when you consider how much you're getting without needing to set anything up.
anyone else get to the price and stop watching? I'm actually grateful to them for showing it that early so i don't waste my time.
Hey Linus,
Would you recommend this setup over Sonos'?
abso-fucking-lutely
Sonos is garbage.
@@mathiasdfg why?
I've regretted buying 3 different sound bars before returning them all. Nothing beats a quality wired receiver and speakers
True, but you also end up paying a lot more for that setup as well. And, you also have to figure out where those speakers are going to be placed in the room and where the cables for each of them are going to be run/hidden. That's a lot of time and effort that goes into the planning there. Also, once you have that system setup, you can really only use it in that room. The benefit of a soundbar is that it's essentially a "portable" audio solution. You can pick it up and move in from room to room at any time. You can use it in the garage or out on the back patio whenever you like. You can even throw it in the back of your car and take it over to a friend's house if you want for a move night over there. Try doing any of those things with a traditional receiver and surround speaker set up and you are in for one heck of a large project.
@@michaelbeckerman7532 Not many are doing what you're describing with a sound bar though.
I love this channel, but when I see this kind of review it makes me question how seriously I should be taking them. The A7000 is getting pretty trashed by most good home theater reviewers. The upcoming A9 system, though, sounds very promising.
At the very beginning of this video, text on the bottom of the screen it says “sponsored by Sony” so yeah
Not sure what you're talking about there as What Hi-Fi? magazine just recently called the Sony A5000/A7000 the best Dolby Atmos enabled sound bars in the world today.
I like my Vizio Elevate. All I need is one cord for sound. Thats it! I don't have to run any HDMI through the soundbar to the TV. Only earc