we bought the Bose 900 on offer at €699 for our cinema room which is average size a couple of weeks ago and love the sound very immersive for the size of our room. My partner has a hearing problem that means excessive bass is very painful to him, so the standalone sound bar with adjustable internal bass was ideal. the shop demonstrated the bar with and without both bose subwoofers and to us the bar alone was ideal.
The average UK home has a much smaller living room than the US. This is a UK channel, and to be honest, all of these sound bars are probably overkill. The likes of the Dragon or separate AV setups are great if you have a larger room or home cinema, but the vast majority of us don't. This is why we like a simple sound bar of which these chosen ones are ideal. Good choice and good video for most Uk buyers.
Meh possibly. It would he good to compare. A system with a superior crossover and sound separation but less power (wattage) would still sound better than a system with garbage crossover, eq, crossover but higher wattage. So knowing if these brands which sell in the UK actually compare in the various other evaluating metrics would be beneficial to know of the U.K. Market is comparable or just getting over charged with less quality offerings.
@@attilab.2818 I happen to like the sound of the Sonos better it's a bit more open than the Bose. I had the Bose system. I've never had the San Heiser system.
I will go with Sonos all the way. Currently have the Sonos Arc with the original Sonos base and Sonos SL for the rears. Eventually I will upgrade the subwoofer to the newest.
I setup 2 Sonos systems with double subs. One of my setups has the rear, the arc and double subs, and the other has the arc double subs, the amplifier and ceiling speakers.
@@bayodaman hi, no never however my father in law has the same setup on a deco mesh system and loses connection a lot, I've since put him on a basic tplink extender and not dropped out since
@@bloodstockvip2176 thanks for the response just copped the Sonos Arc and sub gen 3 while on sale at Costco. Hopefully they actually give me my Apple gift card that comes with it.
So, I was going to for the Sonos system but then the TV started playing up so went for the Samsung S95C and Q990C combo through Smart Homes Sounds. For the price of the two with the amazing discounts - just couldn’t refuse that.
With only one soundbar offering full 4k/120 Hz Pass-through, the HT-A7000 would be my winner (I currently use the A5000 which for my living room provides more than enough room filling sound by itself), and with a recent firmware update now also supports VRR (variable refresh rate) and ALLM (auto-low latency mode) capabilities making it and the A5000 the most versatile soundbars for every entertainment need.
I get confused when people say the soundbat has passthrough. So, do you go from say PS5 or apple 4k tv box into soundboard and into the tv from there???
@@jb7753 Yes, that’s how it works. The soundbar also has to be set to its own HDMI input for video to be displayed onto the TV/monitor along with the audio signal. If it’s set to its TV mode, it will only play audio and video from the other HDMI input(s) on the display that are not connected to the eARC HDMI port.
@@jb7753 The main benefit with going through the soundbar is you don’t lose an HDMI port on the TV to the soundbar itself if the soundbar has even 1 additional input (with some having 2-4 additional inputs even).
I tried the Q900C… and it completely blew the Arc+Sub Gen 3 in comparison. I ordered the Q990C today for $600. I can’t justify spending $2400 for the Sonos “Ultimate” setup for similar or even slightly worse sound and no DTS support
@@SemanticDream it was for $800 for anyone with an AAA membership or student status last week. I got an extra $200 off due to a targeted financing offer. It’s definitely back up again because the student discount was also temporary and now it’s $1260 again!
The samsung does get significantly louder than the Arc, there are more drivers i the bar itself and the big price jump on the sonos cant be justified unless you wanna pay more for less or NEED to bring it into the Sonos ecosystem in the rest of the house. With double price you would at lease expect the same capability, but youre getting less. Im really not sure how the managed to sell well.
@amarcellus1714 Finally, one smart answer, all others afraid to say it loudly😂 Typical iPhone zombies always choose sonos, thinking 101% it's the best😂😂
I've had several sound bars and a surround sound package but it was only when I purchased an AVR with stereo speakers I realised what I had been missing (stereo imaging, thumping bass, enveloping sound stage etc) besides going down this route one could always add overtime.. surround speakers, subwoofers. One could even purchase height speakers to have the full NON-VIRTUAL Dolby Atmos experience. If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right! Our ears follow our eyes to where the story lives.
You get slightly better atmos for 5 Times more money. Been there, done that. The latest soundbars like the samsung q990b is like a samsung s23 ultra camera. It is very good compared to a traditional camera (avr) but in a modern and compackt package. Wont replace a cinema room for 10 Times less money, but will sound 80% similar to a 5 Times more expensive avr dolby truehd atmos setup in an average room... you just need to place the speakers slightly above ear level. You cant even buy a truehd atmos receiver from the price of the 11.1.4 channel soundbar. So it is destroying any avr that is not atmos, because it can reproduce the bubble effect for so cheap.
Yeah agree with you! I've also had several soundbars but finally settled for a pair of active speakers with hdmi arc compatibility and added an active sub to them. The sound is just so much wider and much more dynamic
It all depends on one's listening habits. If one's listening habits are all coming from the TV. Maybe the sound bar might be good enough. However if one enjoys listening to stereo music. That's where sound bars imo tend to falter. Listen to the first 30 seconds of this and you might get a better understanding... ruclips.net/video/uPi6R54Mdx4/видео.htmlsi=rwpkfC9UFxrnsluY
@@totalplonker824 soundbars like the q990b are meant to simulate cinema, atmos surround. Listening to music on them is like having a disco party in a cinema...
Paying 3000+ for a soundbar you would expect it to blow away a system you can get for 800dollars or less. Whats insane is that Sonos charges 2/3 of the Dragon price and still performs worse than the samsung hahaha
Jus bought the Bose ultra soundbar, 700 sub and 300 series surround speaker since they were going for a super good deal. Paid $1,600 for the whole setup. I gotta say it sounds insanely good. For anyone using Bose surround speakers. Make sure you cover the surround speakers with a few socks before you AI cali rate your system. This tricks the calibration system which pushes the surround speakers to its full potential. You can always personally make fine adjustments after calibration which I highly suggest. Trust me it’s an insane system if you’re not a die hard audiophile. I like really good clear sound with a nice bass punch and when you put the whole system together it comes alive.
I have the hta7000, I really wanted Bose for their signature sound and to compliment all the rest of the Bose speakers we have in each room, but we went for the ht, and recently found the setting on how to adjust literally every single speaker on the sound bar, rear and even make the sub louder. I fine tuned it probably 20 times and it now sounds even better then Bose or Sonos, I’ve tinker with my friends Sonos. And it the ht7000 is way better. I definitely advise discovering the adjustments for all speaker levels and adjust them all manually for best sound. I’m blown away by this greyed out feature I found 2 years later. lol
You seem like the best at this I live in an apartment and only want to be a standalone soundbar without having to purchase any extra speakers 🔊 or subwoofers etc. What is the best standalone soundbar for a brand new LG OLED G4 television in 2024? Any assistance you can bring is greatly appreciated!
Hey why does everyone skip Harman Kardon 1100??? Its best of all this I heard most of them in person minus (sony, bose, sonos and samsung) but hk1100 is a beast
You've just missed out though on so much more it offers if you didn't go and sample it. I know Atmos isn't for everyone however it handles 2.0 and 5.1 (a lot of movies are still in this category) in incredible quality. 2 x gen 3 subs and it's game over for cinema sound from a soundbar as good as can be expected without amps and separates etc....
Current best sound bar on the market? I want an Apple Homepod, but I don’t think it’s even needed if I’m getting a sound bar. Please help. I want the best of the best Solution that offers HomePod features, but the best sound bar quality. I am really confused on what to buy.
An update for anyone shopping in early 2024. Some of these are on sale but in my opinion the biggest to note would be the Samsung Q990c coming in at $1069 on Amazon. That is huge sound for the value!
I really enjoy mine. I can’t speak to the quality of it being better than Sony. However my friend has a Bose 700 and mine is louder however his feels like a better sound with more bass. As for pairing it with a Sony tv you would lose Q symphony, but I never use mine. The tv speakers bring down the quality of the sound.
I managed to pick up an LG S80QY brand new for £400. It’s a 3.1.3 system, but as I live in a block of flats and with a budget that’s the system I settled for. It’s more than adequate for my need. It also plays all formats including imax dts which is good for the Sony Bravia core app. And I believe that’s what we all should consider.
That is correct. If you're a gamer and have a ps5 or Xbox series x, then that's the soundbar you want. That's assuming you have a 120hrz tv. I have 3 LG oleds. The cx,c1, and c2. All 4 HDMI inputs are 2.1, and the hdmi 2 port is e(arc). In my bedroom, I have the LG c2 hooked up to a Samsung 990c. I'm probably going to get the 990d for my living room.
Question the white sonos arc you have mounted in one of the clips at the end is basically contained between book shelves. I have the same setup at home. Am I losing the effect of a left and right front speaker basically because of that? Not something I can change since the shelves are built into the wall, but curious.
It's great for very small spaces like a bedroom. In a living room space, you will be very highly disappointed as I was. I ended up returning for that reason as I needed a big sound in the living room.
The Q990C can be had cheapest and comes with EVERYTHING, surrounds and Sub in the Box. the Arc without the sub or 300 surrounds isn't half what the Samsung is right out of the box
Question : if the Bose is incompatible with DTS but I'm watching a DTS movie, to which format will the sound be converted? Will it affect quality a lot? Thanks in advance for your help.
Why is there a Sony PlayStation 5 blocking the left side channel of the Sonos Arc? (My winner is the Arc/Sub3/Era300’s, but I’m eager to see your Nakamichi-review
@Ade85 my system will peak at 2350 watts of amplification, so less than the Dragon. But more than that, isn't the central thing the sound clarity? Let's say the Dragon is extremely well engineered from the sound perspective, that means it's a better option than a more budget friendly soudbar with less power output and clarity. The Dragon would just happen to also be able to be a speaker for quite a large party hall. Let me know what you think.
The dragon is overrated, at that price and that warranty I don't trust it specially comparing it to user feedback vs reviewer feedback. For that money is so much better to go the home theater route
It’s 4 grand! What a joke. I cannot believe people are taking that thing seriously. If you spend that kind of money on a soundbar you need to get your head examined.
I don't have a soundbar yet, but the main reason I would go for the Bose would be the TrueSpace feature. If it works as advertised, then only the Bose soundbar would be an option for me. Does anyone know if the other soundbars offer a similar feature? A lot of content is still offered in stereo. A soundbar that converts stereo to dolby Atmos would be a very strong selling point for me.
I have bose full set. 900 soundbar, 700 woofer and 700 surround speakers. I recommend you try different things, because I just keep getting feels these atmos stuff is overrated and overpriced. Ofcourse it’s a great thing when the content is great but most of the”atmos” contents out there(at least what I experienced) are not that sound devoted contents. It’s just like a sprinkle over your donut, but not the whole donut. So is it great? Yeah. But I don’t expect too much anymore.
Hello, I currently have a 5.1 System with an old AVR. I would like to switch to Dolby Atmos technology and enjoy having overhead sounds. I do not have the possibility of installing speakers in the ceiling (I know that it is the best option in conjunction with a Dolby Atmos AVR). Is a Dolby Atmos soundbar with rear speakers (like the Samsung HW-Q990C) worth it? Can this type of soundbar make you feel sounds above your head? Or will this change not be better than my current 5.1 system? The TV room has a 9-foot (2.8-meter) high flat ceiling. Thank you so much!
Yes, anywhere between 7.5 to 12 feet will work. Many audiophiles or companies that set home theaters up will agree that upfiring is not optimal, however, it is better than standard 5.1 and you can still hear things coming overhead, it just won't be as precise (as in, you won't be able to point exactly where the sound came from other than its general direction, which is not necessarily bad mind you). For it to work, make sure you set the speakers up in the right positions, and of course, your room will dictate how it sounds, from its shape, to what you have on the walls, etc. If you can put speakers behind you, not just to the sides, get a 7.1.4 or more, but if you have your seating against a wall, get a 5.1.4.
The words atmos/soundbar and ultimate don’t really go together the HT A9 is the only system that creates an atmos bubble affect because it uses 4 speakers the same, soundbars always over power front end and will always struggle by the nature
JBL has a great soundbar for music, but for dialog it's too much bass. I'm getting the BOSE ultra so I can move our JBL soundbar to our kitchen setup where dialog is less important and music is.
When you have Ambeo mode turned off on the Ambeo Plus, it upmixes two-channel stereo. Sennheiser confirmed this via an email query earlier this year. It's shocking news really, as nearly every review outlet preferred the upmixed stereo... yuck. Ambeo mode is the only way to engage the centre speaker, thus the only way to get an accurate representation of 5.1/7.1.4/etc.
What is the best way to listen to music from an Android phone without Spotify on Sonos Arc? What people who have this device do? Lets say I listen to Digitally Imported FM (Di.fm) radio all the time, how do I listen this on the Arc without BT on the unit?
for around $1500 you can get a decent 7.1 AVR and a cheap set of atmos speakers that will blow all of these soundbars away.. yeah you have to set it up but a soundbar is something you set up in your ROOM.. i have the nakamichi shockwafe system in my room, i would never even think about setting it up in my living room as it just CANT fill the room like an AVR setup.. anything over $1500 for a soundbar is just silly
If you are trying to have an immersive big sound to fill up the room or like a big punch, scary movie sounding makes you jump reaction. Then go with the Bose with all speakers and 2 subs, the 990c incredible bass with very low lows, or the nakamichi ultra earc the best with movies hands down...
Samsung Q990C is now 840e in my country which is a steal ! You just can not beat that value. Sorry Sonos, you are not worth over 2000e for Arc + 2x Era 300
00:04 Finding the best Dolby Atmos Soundbar 01:51 Bose Soundbar excels in vocals and clarity 03:43 Sony Soundbar offers versatile connectivity and immersive audio experience 05:26 Detailed connectivity options and immersive sound experience 07:08 The Dion luxury Soundbar offers premium design and powerful sound performance. 09:04 Impressive Dolby Atmos effects from single Soundbar 10:54 Sonos Arc offers rich sound and wide sound stage 12:39 Sonos Arc offers great flexibility for future upgrades.
Phillips Fidelio Fb1??? I just see more of the same typically "hyped" and over-marketed, over-priced products out there. Some good soundbars sure, but it's easy to just review all the soundbars everyone else is reviewing and you're offering no real variety of choice when it comes to quality and value - not everyone has 1k to spend on a soundbar.
Is it any good? I'm toying with so many options at the moment including the Pulse Soundbar+, but it seems to get pretty average to poor user reviews when I've seen any comments mentioning it.
@@ednewmy I really like it. Some quick background. I had a 10+ year old Definitive Mythos XTR-SSA5 passive soundbar hooked up to a Marantz receiver and a Polk PSW108 subwoofer, that was replaced about 6 months ago with a Yamaha NS-SW100. I have a 15’ x18’ open family room, so not the greatest for sound… The receiver died, and I decided it was time for an upgrade/update and to go with one of the better soundbars. I looked (and listened) to several, including Bose, Sonos, Sennheiser (Ambeo Plus, Max is WAY too big for my space) and Nakkamichi (not the Dragon). I really liked the Sonos (Arc), to me it just had the best overall ‘tone’ and clarity, but it definitely needs a sub, and I have a hard time basically doubling the price to get a sub (same with the Bose), especially where I have a good sub that’s 6 months old. What I liked about the Bluesound is it has and RCA port for a sub, any sub. With a 30 day return from Amazon, I figured I’d give it a shot. Honestly, the first thing that impressed me was the packaging, not a lot of extra packing or Styrofoam, simple, but really well done (and easy if I wanted to return it). Set up was very easy - plug it in, connect it to your wireless network, update the firmware, plugged it into the eARC port on the TV and the bar, plug the sub into the RCA port, and boom, up and running (I had downloaded the BluOs app previously and it’s very intuitive, and well done). I made a few tweak on the app and it’s great sound! It’s better than the Definitive and on par or better than the Sonos Arc (IMHO). Standard cable is really good, but where it really shines is streaming shows and movies (Disney, Apple, Netflix…). The only “downside” is the height is 5.5”, which can be a problem if you don’t have the right setup, possibly blocking the bottom of the TV. Where the Definitive I had was about 4”, I have my TV (LG C3) on a riser, and including the TV stand, it sits just about 6” above the actual TV stand, so it was a non-issue for me, but that is something you’d need to consider. I’ve had the soundbar for about a month and I’m really happy with it. I highly recommend it. A bit long, but I hope this was helpful.
@@ednewmy I really like it. Some quick background. I had a 10+ year old Definitive Mythos XTR-SSA5 passive soundbar hooked up to a Marantz receiver and a Polk PSW108 subwoofer, that was replaced about 6 months ago with a Yamaha NS-SW100. I have a 15’ x18’ open family room, so not the greatest for sound… The receiver died, and I decided it was time for an upgrade/update and to go with one of the better soundbars. I looked (and listened) to several, including Bose, Sonos, Sennheiser (Ambeo Plus, Max is WAY too big for my space) and Nakkamichi (not the Dragon). I really liked the Sonos (Arc), to me it just had the best overall ‘tone’ and clarity, but it definitely needs a sub, and I have a hard time basically doubling the price to get a sub (same with the Bose), especially where I have a good sub that’s 6 months old. What I liked about the Bluesound is it has and RCA port for a sub, any sub. With a 30 day return from Amazon, I figured I’d give it a shot. Honestly, the first thing that impressed me was the packaging, not a lot of extra packing or Styrofoam, simple, but really well done (and easy if I wanted to return it). Set up was very easy - plug it in, connect it to your wireless network, update the firmware, plugged it into the eARC port on the TV and the bar, plug the sub into the RCA port, and boom, up and running (I had downloaded the BluOs app previously and it’s very intuitive, and well done). I made a few tweak on the app and it’s great sound! It’s better than the Definitive and on par or better than the Sonos Arc (IMHO). Standard cable is really good, but where it really shines is streaming shows and movies (Disney, Apple, Netflix…). The only “downside” is the height is 5.5”, which can be a problem if you don’t have the right setup, possibly blocking the bottom of the TV. Where the Definitive I had was about 4”, I have my TV (LG C3) on a riser, and including the TV stand, it sits just about 6” above the actual TV stand, so it was a non-issue for me, but that is something you’d need to consider. I’ve had the soundbar for about a month and I’m really happy with it. I highly recommend it. A bit long, but I hope this was helpful.
Le titre n’est pas bon, ca devrait etre « meilleures barres de son 2023 », il manque tous les vrais monstres de 2024: Dragon, Samsung q990D, lg s95tr, sony Bravia quad, etc… 🤦🏻♂️
Now I officially hate BOSE soundbars. The most disappointing product I have ever bought in all my life. WTF BOSE! The update took 1.5 days and support was worth human waste. SONY has amazing alternatives. Think about it. Harman Kardon maybe? (I'm talking about the BOSE "smart" Ultra )
Listened to them all and for the price they are asking they all are piece of shit. Dedicated av reciver with speakers is best option for movies and song listening as well
I considered Sony and Sonos Arc. Went with Sony because of a discount when buying Sony TV. But I did like the Sonos Arc. Good review. I like Sony as it suites my room, not open concept, sound is great. I wonder is Sonos better in larger room?
I recently got both Bose (900 SB + 700 BM) and Samsung 990 (SB, BM & 2 speakers) to try out for my home theater. I’d seen reviews saying the Samsung is as good as, or better than the Bose and I was attracted to the much lower cost of the Samsung set up plus the fact that I was pairing it with a Samsung TV. However, I ended up keeping the Bose and returning the Samsung because the Bose hands down had better, richer, more immersive sound that hit you from everywhere. Maybe it’s the size of the room - it is a pretty large, 2-story room with 4 ceiling fans - but the difference was so profound, I honestly don’t see how anyone could’ve put the 2 systems in the same class. Maybe the Samsung performs better in smaller spaces, I don’t know, but I’ve chosen the Bose and I’ll get the Bose speakers to complete my setup although it already out-performs the Samsung by far, without the extra speakers. I can’t speak for the other brands but I’m totally happy with my Bose.
Recently bought the Q990C for €919 ( 795 GBP or 990 Dollar ) on a sale, which is a steal! It replaced my AV Receiver and speakers, so that's saying alot IMHO!. Very good sound and immersion!
@HalalFoodTherapy There are alot of legit sellers on Ebay selling it for less than $1,000 brand new. That's how I always buy my new electronics and save money
I went for the Sony A7000 because it just sounds incredible. Do whatever you can to avoid getting sucked in to the horrible Sonos ecosystem. The connectivity has always been garbage and forget about connecting to a third party unless you want to pony up $1000+
Once a Sonos soundbar is connected to your TV via HDMI no Wi-Fi of connectivity is required for TV audio to play. I presume this must be music streaming issues.
The Sony Bravia OLED TV Center channel feature with the HT-A7000, SA-SW5 sub, and SA-RS5 surrounds makes it an unbeatable combo… The dialogue literally sounds like it’s coming from the character on the screen. It cant be beat with that feature.
Currently on Amazon Canada, the Samsung Q990C is priced at $1500 ca, which is about $1100us or $890 pound. Which makes it the lowest price of a complete system. Next few weeks is Black Friday. The price may be even lower.
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we bought the Bose 900 on offer at €699 for our cinema room which is average size a couple of weeks ago and love the sound very immersive for the size of our room. My partner has a hearing problem that means excessive bass is very painful to him, so the standalone sound bar with adjustable internal bass was ideal. the shop demonstrated the bar with and without both bose subwoofers and to us the bar alone was ideal.
The average UK home has a much smaller living room than the US. This is a UK channel, and to be honest, all of these sound bars are probably overkill. The likes of the Dragon or separate AV setups are great if you have a larger room or home cinema, but the vast majority of us don't. This is why we like a simple sound bar of which these chosen ones are ideal. Good choice and good video for most Uk buyers.
Meh possibly. It would he good to compare. A system with a superior crossover and sound separation but less power (wattage) would still sound better than a system with garbage crossover, eq, crossover but higher wattage.
So knowing if these brands which sell in the UK actually compare in the various other evaluating metrics would be beneficial to know of the U.K. Market is comparable or just getting over charged with less quality offerings.
Sonos for me, complete system. I have had it for years and I just am so impressed with the sound and so is my company when we watch a movie.
@@attilab.2818 I happen to like the sound of the Sonos better it's a bit more open than the Bose. I had the Bose system. I've never had the San Heiser system.
I will go with Sonos all the way. Currently have the Sonos Arc with the original Sonos base and Sonos SL for the rears. Eventually I will upgrade the subwoofer to the newest.
Best move ever, I often turn my sub gen 3s off to remind myself of why I spent the extra a year after getting the bar
I setup 2 Sonos systems with double subs. One of my setups has the rear, the arc and double subs, and the other has the arc double subs, the amplifier and ceiling speakers.
@@bloodstockvip2176 does your sub ever have connection issues?
@@bayodaman hi, no never however my father in law has the same setup on a deco mesh system and loses connection a lot, I've since put him on a basic tplink extender and not dropped out since
@@bloodstockvip2176 thanks for the response just copped the Sonos Arc and sub gen 3 while on sale at Costco. Hopefully they actually give me my Apple gift card that comes with it.
So, I was going to for the Sonos system but then the TV started playing up so went for the Samsung S95C and Q990C combo through Smart Homes Sounds. For the price of the two with the amazing discounts - just couldn’t refuse that.
I managed to get the Samsung Q990C for €900 so I think it is a no-brainer
With only one soundbar offering full 4k/120 Hz Pass-through, the HT-A7000 would be my winner (I currently use the A5000 which for my living room provides more than enough room filling sound by itself), and with a recent firmware update now also supports VRR (variable refresh rate) and ALLM (auto-low latency mode) capabilities making it and the A5000 the most versatile soundbars for every entertainment need.
I get confused when people say the soundbat has passthrough. So, do you go from say PS5 or apple 4k tv box into soundboard and into the tv from there???
@@jb7753 Yes, that’s how it works. The soundbar also has to be set to its own HDMI input for video to be displayed onto the TV/monitor along with the audio signal. If it’s set to its TV mode, it will only play audio and video from the other HDMI input(s) on the display that are not connected to the eARC HDMI port.
@@zgoaty9235 Any benefit doing through the soundbar instead of going through the tv and eArc out?
@@jb7753 The main benefit with going through the soundbar is you don’t lose an HDMI port on the TV to the soundbar itself if the soundbar has even 1 additional input (with some having 2-4 additional inputs even).
Not to mention, less cables connected to the TV makes a cleaner setup.
I have the Q990B and absolutley love it. I've seen the C on sale for around £950 too.
Bought the Q990C yesterday for 989 usd 🤩
The B and C are almost identical as well, so getting that for even cheaper is a great option. Samsung is the best value soundbar package there is.
I have Just bought 990c for 809 € with Black Friday discount ❤❤❤ can't wait..
Love Ultimea S80, works for me. ❤
I tried the Q900C… and it completely blew the Arc+Sub Gen 3 in comparison. I ordered the Q990C today for $600. I can’t justify spending $2400 for the Sonos “Ultimate” setup for similar or even slightly worse sound and no DTS support
Where'd you order it from? The cheapest I can find is $1400.
@@SemanticDream it was for $800 for anyone with an AAA membership or student status last week. I got an extra $200 off due to a targeted financing offer. It’s definitely back up again because the student discount was also temporary and now it’s $1260 again!
The samsung does get significantly louder than the Arc, there are more drivers i the bar itself and the big price jump on the sonos cant be justified unless you wanna pay more for less or NEED to bring it into the Sonos ecosystem in the rest of the house. With double price you would at lease expect the same capability, but youre getting less. Im really not sure how the managed to sell well.
@Embre2000 it sold well because Sonos has created a cult following just like Apple.
@amarcellus1714 Finally, one smart answer, all others afraid to say it loudly😂 Typical iPhone zombies always choose sonos, thinking 101% it's the best😂😂
I've had several sound bars and a surround sound package but it was only when I purchased an AVR with stereo speakers I realised what I had been missing (stereo imaging, thumping bass, enveloping sound stage etc) besides going down this route one could always add overtime.. surround speakers, subwoofers. One could even purchase height speakers to have the full NON-VIRTUAL Dolby Atmos experience. If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right!
Our ears follow our eyes to where the story lives.
You get slightly better atmos for 5 Times more money. Been there, done that. The latest soundbars like the samsung q990b is like a samsung s23 ultra camera. It is very good compared to a traditional camera (avr) but in a modern and compackt package. Wont replace a cinema room for 10 Times less money, but will sound 80% similar to a 5 Times more expensive avr dolby truehd atmos setup in an average room... you just need to place the speakers slightly above ear level. You cant even buy a truehd atmos receiver from the price of the 11.1.4 channel soundbar. So it is destroying any avr that is not atmos, because it can reproduce the bubble effect for so cheap.
Yeah agree with you! I've also had several soundbars but finally settled for a pair of active speakers with hdmi arc compatibility and added an active sub to them. The sound is just so much wider and much more dynamic
It all depends on one's listening habits. If one's listening habits are all coming from the TV. Maybe the sound bar might be good enough. However if one enjoys listening to stereo music. That's where sound bars imo tend to falter.
Listen to the first 30 seconds of this and you might get a better understanding...
ruclips.net/video/uPi6R54Mdx4/видео.htmlsi=rwpkfC9UFxrnsluY
@@totalplonker824 soundbars like the q990b are meant to simulate cinema, atmos surround. Listening to music on them is like having a disco party in a cinema...
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Nakaimichi dragon is the winner. I have it and it blows away the Samsung 990 c which is very good 👍
Paying 3000+ for a soundbar you would expect it to blow away a system you can get for 800dollars or less. Whats insane is that Sonos charges 2/3 of the Dragon price and still performs worse than the samsung hahaha
Jus bought the Bose ultra soundbar, 700 sub and 300 series surround speaker since they were going for a super good deal. Paid $1,600 for the whole setup. I gotta say it sounds insanely good. For anyone using Bose surround speakers. Make sure you cover the surround speakers with a few socks before you AI cali rate your system. This tricks the calibration system which pushes the surround speakers to its full potential. You can always personally make fine adjustments after calibration which I highly suggest. Trust me it’s an insane system if you’re not a die hard audiophile. I like really good clear sound with a nice bass punch and when you put the whole system together it comes alive.
Q990c
Super happy with this beast
I have the hta7000, I really wanted Bose for their signature sound and to compliment all the rest of the Bose speakers we have in each room, but we went for the ht, and recently found the setting on how to adjust literally every single speaker on the sound bar, rear and even make the sub louder. I fine tuned it probably 20 times and it now sounds even better then Bose or Sonos, I’ve tinker with my friends Sonos. And it the ht7000 is way better. I definitely advise discovering the adjustments for all speaker levels and adjust them all manually for best sound. I’m blown away by this greyed out feature I found 2 years later. lol
You seem like the best at this I live in an apartment and only want to be a standalone soundbar without having to purchase any extra speakers 🔊 or subwoofers etc. What is the best standalone soundbar for a brand new LG OLED G4 television in 2024? Any assistance you can bring is greatly appreciated!
Hey why does everyone skip Harman Kardon 1100??? Its best of all this I heard most of them in person minus (sony, bose, sonos and samsung) but hk1100 is a beast
Ordered the Sonos Arc yesterday but quickly cancelled. It would be perfect with DTS-HD and DTS:X support but without them, I can't justify it.
You've just missed out though on so much more it offers if you didn't go and sample it. I know Atmos isn't for everyone however it handles 2.0 and 5.1 (a lot of movies are still in this category) in incredible quality. 2 x gen 3 subs and it's game over for cinema sound from a soundbar as good as can be expected without amps and separates etc....
No Bowers & Wilkins? Missed the ball on that one!
Current best sound bar on the market? I want an Apple Homepod, but I don’t think it’s even needed if I’m getting a sound bar. Please help. I want the best of the best Solution that offers HomePod features, but the best sound bar quality. I am really confused on what to buy.
An update for anyone shopping in early 2024. Some of these are on sale but in my opinion the biggest to note would be the Samsung Q990c coming in at $1069 on Amazon. That is huge sound for the value!
Is it better than sony and would be equally good with sony tv?
I really enjoy mine. I can’t speak to the quality of it being better than Sony. However my friend has a Bose 700 and mine is louder however his feels like a better sound with more bass. As for pairing it with a Sony tv you would lose Q symphony, but I never use mine. The tv speakers bring down the quality of the sound.
I managed to pick up an LG S80QY brand new for £400. It’s a 3.1.3 system, but as I live in a block of flats and with a budget that’s the system I settled for. It’s more than adequate for my need. It also plays all formats including imax dts which is good for the Sony Bravia core app. And I believe that’s what we all should consider.
Why was the Nakamichi Dragon not included?
He did say so in the video, they still didn’t get one in to review it.
Got the 990c for around 900$ and loving it
The Bose does have side firing compressions drivers in plain sight (phase guides).
Q990D vs JBL Bar 1300, which one u reckon deliver better sound quality for movie & music?
The Samsung Q990D claims to have a 4K 120Hz passthrough. Is that right?
That is correct. If you're a gamer and have a ps5 or Xbox series x, then that's the soundbar you want. That's assuming you have a 120hrz tv. I have 3 LG oleds. The cx,c1, and c2. All 4 HDMI inputs are 2.1, and the hdmi 2 port is e(arc). In my bedroom, I have the LG c2 hooked up to a Samsung 990c. I'm probably going to get the 990d for my living room.
I have lg c3 OLED tv is lg SC9S soundbar is good for me?
Question the white sonos arc you have mounted in one of the clips at the end is basically contained between book shelves. I have the same setup at home. Am I losing the effect of a left and right front speaker basically because of that? Not something I can change since the shelves are built into the wall, but curious.
How was the jbl bar 1300, it seems to be quite interesting.
It's great for very small spaces like a bedroom. In a living room space, you will be very highly disappointed as I was. I ended up returning for that reason as I needed a big sound in the living room.
The Q990C can be had cheapest and comes with EVERYTHING, surrounds and Sub in the Box. the Arc without the sub or 300 surrounds isn't half what the Samsung is right out of the box
Question : if the Bose is incompatible with DTS but I'm watching a DTS movie, to which format will the sound be converted? Will it affect quality a lot? Thanks in advance for your help.
Its converted to PCM. Basically no change in sound quality is what I have read.
I wanted to get the nakamichi dragon but I don’t think it will come to the UK :(
Why is there a Sony PlayStation 5 blocking the left side channel of the Sonos Arc? (My winner is the Arc/Sub3/Era300’s, but I’m eager to see your Nakamichi-review
Where is your tv stand and sideboard from please?
Harman/Kardon Citation 1100 is the best
Nakamichi Dragon is uncontested monster 🔥
The ND does look like a good shout, but I think it needs to take a seat whe mn faced with the Beosound Theatre.
Far too much for the average uk home. It's like buying a lorry to nip to the shops. In the US with their bigger homes then maybe ok.
@Ade85 my system will peak at 2350 watts of amplification, so less than the Dragon. But more than that, isn't the central thing the sound clarity? Let's say the Dragon is extremely well engineered from the sound perspective, that means it's a better option than a more budget friendly soudbar with less power output and clarity. The Dragon would just happen to also be able to be a speaker for quite a large party hall. Let me know what you think.
The dragon is overrated, at that price and that warranty I don't trust it specially comparing it to user feedback vs reviewer feedback. For that money is so much better to go the home theater route
It’s 4 grand! What a joke. I cannot believe people are taking that thing seriously. If you spend that kind of money on a soundbar you need to get your head examined.
Does the Devialet Dione not process either DTS or DTS X?
Comment section has confused me completely.
Please confirm sony all setup 9.1.2 with subwoofer sw5 and rear speakers OR
Samsung 11.1.4 all setup
I don't have a soundbar yet, but the main reason I would go for the Bose would be the TrueSpace feature. If it works as advertised, then only the Bose soundbar would be an option for me. Does anyone know if the other soundbars offer a similar feature? A lot of content is still offered in stereo. A soundbar that converts stereo to dolby Atmos would be a very strong selling point for me.
I have bose full set. 900 soundbar, 700 woofer and 700 surround speakers. I recommend you try different things, because I just keep getting feels these atmos stuff is overrated and overpriced. Ofcourse it’s a great thing when the content is great but most of the”atmos” contents out there(at least what I experienced) are not that sound devoted contents. It’s just like a sprinkle over your donut, but not the whole donut. So is it great? Yeah. But I don’t expect too much anymore.
Sonos have Trueplay which is the same thing
Hello, I currently have a 5.1 System with an old AVR. I would like to switch to Dolby Atmos technology and enjoy having overhead sounds.
I do not have the possibility of installing speakers in the ceiling (I know that it is the best option in conjunction with a Dolby Atmos AVR).
Is a Dolby Atmos soundbar with rear speakers (like the Samsung HW-Q990C) worth it? Can this type of soundbar make you feel sounds above your head? Or will this change not be better than my current 5.1 system?
The TV room has a 9-foot (2.8-meter) high flat ceiling.
Thank you so much!
Yes, anywhere between 7.5 to 12 feet will work. Many audiophiles or companies that set home theaters up will agree that upfiring is not optimal, however, it is better than standard 5.1 and you can still hear things coming overhead, it just won't be as precise (as in, you won't be able to point exactly where the sound came from other than its general direction, which is not necessarily bad mind you). For it to work, make sure you set the speakers up in the right positions, and of course, your room will dictate how it sounds, from its shape, to what you have on the walls, etc. If you can put speakers behind you, not just to the sides, get a 7.1.4 or more, but if you have your seating against a wall, get a 5.1.4.
@@mrchiledonutThanks! Very useful explanation!
The words atmos/soundbar and ultimate don’t really go together the HT A9 is the only system that creates an atmos bubble affect because it uses 4 speakers the same, soundbars always over power front end and will always struggle by the nature
They're nowhere near the likes of using something like a Denon AVR-X6700, and they just won't be.
They're okay for a bedroom, but that's about it.
Great video. No JBL recommended??
JBL has a great soundbar for music, but for dialog it's too much bass. I'm getting the BOSE ultra so I can move our JBL soundbar to our kitchen setup where dialog is less important and music is.
Well, Sonos Arc looks good but no DTS:X support. I can't speak of other sound bars as well.
I would love to get HT-A7000 but my room is not completely square. I have to put my TV at an angle.
When you have Ambeo mode turned off on the Ambeo Plus, it upmixes two-channel stereo. Sennheiser confirmed this via an email query earlier this year. It's shocking news really, as nearly every review outlet preferred the upmixed stereo... yuck. Ambeo mode is the only way to engage the centre speaker, thus the only way to get an accurate representation of 5.1/7.1.4/etc.
I just got the Samsung q930c due to price and the qsymphony combination with the Samsung tv… would love the NM dragon one day though..
How the q930c sounds? Do you like it?
@@matteomartignani5236 yeah I love it. It’s easy to setup and makes a huge difference to the sound.
Where is the JBL BAR 1000 AND 1300X????
JBL should be here because what it offers for the price is the best.
What about AudioBeamer? Way cheaper than other ones in the market
Samsung 930C here. The 990C was too big for my space and the 930 gives much of the functionality for half the price
What about the Nakamichi Dragon?
What is the best way to listen to music from an Android phone without Spotify on Sonos Arc? What people who have this device do? Lets say I listen to Digitally Imported FM (Di.fm) radio all the time, how do I listen this on the Arc without BT on the unit?
for around $1500 you can get a decent 7.1 AVR and a cheap set of atmos speakers that will blow all of these soundbars away.. yeah you have to set it up but a soundbar is something you set up in your ROOM.. i have the nakamichi shockwafe system in my room, i would never even think about setting it up in my living room as it just CANT fill the room like an AVR setup.. anything over $1500 for a soundbar is just silly
Sonos gen 2 takes the crown for compact Dolby Atmos soundbar
Try the Nubert nuPro XS-8500 RC
If you are trying to have an immersive big sound to fill up the room or like a big punch, scary movie sounding makes you jump reaction. Then go with the Bose with all speakers and 2 subs, the 990c incredible bass with very low lows, or the nakamichi ultra earc the best with movies hands down...
The ambeo plus is amazing . Just missing rear . And their coming .
The bose 900 is the best for voice hearing .
I have the max for 3 years now.. i wish they going to put out soround speakers..
I did not hear anything from Sennheiser about releasing rear speakers ?
Come on everyone knows the Dragon soundbar is the best. Then again it should be for the cost. :)
Using q990b realley upset sound not like my expectations,,otw buying jbl atmos
Samsung q990c or jbl 1300x? I like bass and hip hope músic plus games at hig volume
Q990D is better
990c or hta7000...
Samsung Q990C is now 840e in my country which is a steal !
You just can not beat that value. Sorry Sonos, you are not worth over 2000e for Arc + 2x Era 300
Only issue with Sony ht-a7000 you gotta turn it up around 45-50 depending movie even 60 for it too get loud
And the rears new small volume increase bump
The best soundbar is the Sony A7000. Its the best looking one
where is Polk Audio????
Alexa/Google Assistant = More time during setup blocking internet access.
Samsung Q700B ☝🏼👍🏻💪🏼
00:04 Finding the best Dolby Atmos Soundbar
01:51 Bose Soundbar excels in vocals and clarity
03:43 Sony Soundbar offers versatile connectivity and immersive audio experience
05:26 Detailed connectivity options and immersive sound experience
07:08 The Dion luxury Soundbar offers premium design and powerful sound performance.
09:04 Impressive Dolby Atmos effects from single Soundbar
10:54 Sonos Arc offers rich sound and wide sound stage
12:39 Sonos Arc offers great flexibility for future upgrades.
Phillips Fidelio Fb1??? I just see more of the same typically "hyped" and over-marketed, over-priced products out there. Some good soundbars sure, but it's easy to just review all the soundbars everyone else is reviewing and you're offering no real variety of choice when it comes to quality and value - not everyone has 1k to spend on a soundbar.
THE BEST HOME THEATRE IS THE NAKAMICHI DRAGON 🐉 💯👍
Sonos Arc, Sub 3, and 300's are the ultimate sound experience
I have this setup and yes it sounds great but I wouldn't call it the ultimate sound experience by a long shot.
@@helloworld8136then which is it?
@@helloworld8136 at high volumes it thumps ur chest tho, sounds similar to imax
Sonos arc sound like cardboard .
Ahhh. No
Nakamichi Dragon
where is lg
But still no Harman Kardon multibeam 1100....
Sony ht-9
One word. DRAGON
Sonos with no Bluetooth…? Why? Lol
Bluesound Pulse. Connect to any powered sub…
Is it any good? I'm toying with so many options at the moment including the Pulse Soundbar+, but it seems to get pretty average to poor user reviews when I've seen any comments mentioning it.
@@ednewmy I really like it. Some quick background. I had a 10+ year old Definitive Mythos XTR-SSA5 passive soundbar hooked up to a Marantz receiver and a Polk PSW108 subwoofer, that was replaced about 6 months ago with a Yamaha NS-SW100. I have a 15’ x18’ open family room, so not the greatest for sound… The receiver died, and I decided it was time for an upgrade/update and to go with one of the better soundbars. I looked (and listened) to several, including Bose, Sonos, Sennheiser (Ambeo Plus, Max is WAY too big for my space) and Nakkamichi (not the Dragon). I really liked the Sonos (Arc), to me it just had the best overall ‘tone’ and clarity, but it definitely needs a sub, and I have a hard time basically doubling the price to get a sub (same with the Bose), especially where I have a good sub that’s 6 months old. What I liked about the Bluesound is it has and RCA port for a sub, any sub. With a 30 day return from Amazon, I figured I’d give it a shot. Honestly, the first thing that impressed me was the packaging, not a lot of extra packing or Styrofoam, simple, but really well done (and easy if I wanted to return it).
Set up was very easy - plug it in, connect it to your wireless network, update the firmware, plugged it into the eARC port on the TV and the bar, plug the sub into the RCA port, and boom, up and running (I had downloaded the BluOs app previously and it’s very intuitive, and well done). I made a few tweak on the app and it’s great sound! It’s better than the Definitive and on par or better than the Sonos Arc (IMHO). Standard cable is really good, but where it really shines is streaming shows and movies (Disney, Apple, Netflix…). The only “downside” is the height is 5.5”, which can be a problem if you don’t have the right setup, possibly blocking the bottom of the TV. Where the Definitive I had was about 4”, I have my TV (LG C3) on a riser, and including the TV stand, it sits just about 6” above the actual TV stand, so it was a non-issue for me, but that is something you’d need to consider.
I’ve had the soundbar for about a month and I’m really happy with it. I highly recommend it.
A bit long, but I hope this was helpful.
@@ednewmy I really like it. Some quick background. I had a 10+ year old Definitive Mythos XTR-SSA5 passive soundbar hooked up to a Marantz receiver and a Polk PSW108 subwoofer, that was replaced about 6 months ago with a Yamaha NS-SW100. I have a 15’ x18’ open family room, so not the greatest for sound… The receiver died, and I decided it was time for an upgrade/update and to go with one of the better soundbars. I looked (and listened) to several, including Bose, Sonos, Sennheiser (Ambeo Plus, Max is WAY too big for my space) and Nakkamichi (not the Dragon). I really liked the Sonos (Arc), to me it just had the best overall ‘tone’ and clarity, but it definitely needs a sub, and I have a hard time basically doubling the price to get a sub (same with the Bose), especially where I have a good sub that’s 6 months old. What I liked about the Bluesound is it has and RCA port for a sub, any sub. With a 30 day return from Amazon, I figured I’d give it a shot. Honestly, the first thing that impressed me was the packaging, not a lot of extra packing or Styrofoam, simple, but really well done (and easy if I wanted to return it).
Set up was very easy - plug it in, connect it to your wireless network, update the firmware, plugged it into the eARC port on the TV and the bar, plug the sub into the RCA port, and boom, up and running (I had downloaded the BluOs app previously and it’s very intuitive, and well done). I made a few tweak on the app and it’s great sound! It’s better than the Definitive and on par or better than the Sonos Arc (IMHO). Standard cable is really good, but where it really shines is streaming shows and movies (Disney, Apple, Netflix…). The only “downside” is the height is 5.5”, which can be a problem if you don’t have the right setup, possibly blocking the bottom of the TV. Where the Definitive I had was about 4”, I have my TV (LG C3) on a riser, and including the TV stand, it sits just about 6” above the actual TV stand, so it was a non-issue for me, but that is something you’d need to consider.
I’ve had the soundbar for about a month and I’m really happy with it. I highly recommend it.
A bit long, but I hope this was helpful.
The MAX is probably about a million times better for music than any of these tin can speakers.
For what you actually get these are way too expensive.
Sonos ...no bluetooth 😂😂😂😂😂
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Hayche-DMI 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Le titre n’est pas bon, ca devrait etre « meilleures barres de son 2023 », il manque tous les vrais monstres de 2024: Dragon, Samsung q990D, lg s95tr, sony Bravia quad, etc… 🤦🏻♂️
Now I officially hate BOSE soundbars. The most disappointing product I have ever bought in all my life. WTF BOSE! The update took 1.5 days and support was worth human waste. SONY has amazing alternatives. Think about it. Harman Kardon maybe? (I'm talking about the BOSE "smart" Ultra )
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No
Listened to them all and for the price they are asking they all are piece of shit. Dedicated av reciver with speakers is best option for movies and song listening as well
Can you recommend any AV receiver with speakers for less price?
@@TVEXPERT.Co.klipsch reference theater pack plus denon 550xb
Trash review sounds like you got the text from AI
Jbl bar 1300?
Is it just me or did this guy say “this is the best soundbar” for every single soundbar
Haha true tho 😂
Just you
He said they are the best in the grouping he gives. I'm fine with that. Soundbars have different types of setups and he narrows each down to the best.
Welcome to RUclips
Just you bud
The q990C is a no brainer as it can be had for less than 1000 usd and has q-symphony as well as a built-in smart hub.
Idk, I’m seeing it’s almsot as expensive as the other options here
I'm very happy with Bose Ultra 😊
no 4k passthrough is a deal breaker for me sadly
I was, until I tried updating it. It took like 1.5 days and support was the worst ever. Good luck with that. I really hope you don't have this issue.
I considered Sony and Sonos Arc. Went with Sony because of a discount when buying Sony TV. But I did like the Sonos Arc. Good review. I like Sony as it suites my room, not open concept, sound is great. I wonder is Sonos better in larger room?
I recently got both Bose (900 SB + 700 BM) and Samsung 990 (SB, BM & 2 speakers) to try out for my home theater. I’d seen reviews saying the Samsung is as good as, or better than the Bose and I was attracted to the much lower cost of the Samsung set up plus the fact that I was pairing it with a Samsung TV. However, I ended up keeping the Bose and returning the Samsung because the Bose hands down had better, richer, more immersive sound that hit you from everywhere. Maybe it’s the size of the room - it is a pretty large, 2-story room with 4 ceiling fans - but the difference was so profound, I honestly don’t see how anyone could’ve put the 2 systems in the same class. Maybe the Samsung performs better in smaller spaces, I don’t know, but I’ve chosen the Bose and I’ll get the Bose speakers to complete my setup although it already out-performs the Samsung by far, without the extra speakers. I can’t speak for the other brands but I’m totally happy with my Bose.
The Bose costs way more also. Maybe you would be better with the ARC+sub+era 300 now that the price is lowered or an Ambeo Max.
did you add a sub or extra speakers to Bose?
Recently bought the Q990C for €919 ( 795 GBP or 990 Dollar ) on a sale, which is a steal! It replaced my AV Receiver and speakers, so that's saying alot IMHO!. Very good sound and immersion!
How did you get it so cheap! any specific website?
@HalalFoodTherapy There are alot of legit sellers on Ebay selling it for less than $1,000 brand new. That's how I always buy my new electronics and save money
But how is it for music?
@@tpop3723 I think it's sufficient, but that's personal preference. I always prefer a headphone for my music anyway.
I went for the Sony A7000 because it just sounds incredible.
Do whatever you can to avoid getting sucked in to the horrible Sonos ecosystem. The connectivity has always been garbage and forget about connecting to a third party unless you want to pony up $1000+
The Sony wasn’t bad but the Sonos is just incredible. I never even once had any issues.
Once a Sonos soundbar is connected to your TV via HDMI no Wi-Fi of connectivity is required for TV audio to play. I presume this must be music streaming issues.
The Sony Bravia OLED TV Center channel feature with the HT-A7000, SA-SW5 sub, and SA-RS5 surrounds makes it an unbeatable combo… The dialogue literally sounds like it’s coming from the character on the screen. It cant be beat with that feature.
My exact setup. If I didn’t have the Sony OLED, I would’ve explored other options but it was a no brainer once I got the Sony OLED.
Will this also be with my Sony KD-75XH9096
Or do I have to get a oled sony for that experience?
Bro can you tell me how much better it gets with acoustic center sync?
@@ananas63637 without the acoustic center sync where the TV gives center channel some height, I wouldn’t buy it… I’d get a different system.
Nope.
Currently on Amazon Canada, the Samsung Q990C is priced at $1500 ca, which is about $1100us or $890 pound. Which makes it the lowest price of a complete system. Next few weeks is Black Friday. The price may be even lower.
What? I’m seeing it for almost 2500 dollars. Which is just as pricey as the sonos