Previously BANNED card back in a new form?! - Modern Horizons 3

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  • Опубликовано: 27 окт 2024

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  • @serpent1328
    @serpent1328 5 месяцев назад +375

    Didn't ever expect to hear "eldrazi flavoured beans".

  • @DarkWr4ith
    @DarkWr4ith 4 месяца назад +51

    Up the Beanstalk was broken for different reasons though. If Beans was still around it would 100% play Nulldrifter but:
    - Beans being 2 mana means it can be cascaded into
    - Beans replaced itself on ETB
    - Beans worked with a lot of the free evoke elemental cards, allowing you to draw into more elementals or Bindings, play those for free and keep drawing.
    - Beans was in green which can ramp hard
    - There are a lot more "free" or very low cost 5 cmc spells than 7 cmc.
    -Beans worked with all spells and not just creatures
    Which is why Unsealing is very much not Beans.

    • @anannoyedpanda
      @anannoyedpanda 3 месяца назад +2

      Well you just killed the buzz on the video damn dude.

    • @edgarreitz7067
      @edgarreitz7067 2 месяца назад +2

      Very good Point. I just realized Up the beanstalk Even works with Force of Will 🤩

    • @_Emrakull
      @_Emrakull 2 месяца назад +1

      Also blue is already draw heavy, so there are easily other ways to draw. That make it less impressive. "oh look, the blue player is drawing 10 cards again".
      Though, I think the eldrazi spawns are what make this good because blue barely has ramp

    • @VenkmanPhD
      @VenkmanPhD 2 месяца назад

      I feel like this being Blue is gonna be as busted as Beans.
      2 mana was DEF the reason Beans was very busted... But being blue is a huge advantage

  • @andrewsparkes6275
    @andrewsparkes6275 5 месяцев назад +114

    Just a note because you showed a Prototype card briefly on-screen while talking about mana costs: If you cast a Prototype card using its Prototype ability, the spell is the cost of the Prototype ability. NOT the cost in the top-right:
    702.160a: Prototype is a static ability that appears on prototype cards that have a secondary set of power, toughness, and mana cost characteristics. A player who casts a spell with prototype can choose to cast that card "protoyped." If they do, the alternative set of its power, toughness, and mana cost characteristics are used. See 718, "Prototype Cards."
    718.3b: Both a prototyped spell and the permanent it becomes have only its alternative set of power, toughness, and mana cost characteristics. If that mana cost includes one or more colored mana symbols, the spell and the permanent it becomes are also that color or colors (see rule 105.2).

    • @andrewsparkes6275
      @andrewsparkes6275 5 месяцев назад +18

      For the record, I'm aware that specific card also has Affinity (and that's why you showed it), but just wanted to help spread the knowledge that Prototype itself doesn't work like Evoke or other cost reduction mechanics or effects, and actually 'sets' the spell's actual mana cost/value differently.

    • @attackoncardboard
      @attackoncardboard  5 месяцев назад +39

      I appreciate your comments ☺️ I included it as one of the requirements for the brief was to talk about and include as many MH3 cards 🙂

    • @andrewsparkes6275
      @andrewsparkes6275 5 месяцев назад +9

      @@attackoncardboard Of course! Like I said, it was less of a "You're wrong!" comment to you and more "Be careful about what mechanics work with it" to the other viewers. And I only said it because I once saw my LGS owner (who's won GPs before) try to counter a prototyped Arcane Proxy (7cmc card but a 3cmc Prototype) with a Disdainful Stroke (counters spells with 4+cmc), so know even enfranchised players sometimes get it wrong!

    • @airtempest8945
      @airtempest8945 5 месяцев назад +4

      I always just think of them as dual faced cards with the same abilities but different P/T and casting cost because that's effectively what they are.

    • @Freshley369
      @Freshley369 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@airtempest8945thats a good way to explain it man!

  • @victorpassos4355
    @victorpassos4355 5 месяцев назад +96

    That "But" got me by surprise

  • @adriannaranjo4397
    @adriannaranjo4397 4 месяца назад +23

    THIS ELDRAZI EATIN BEANS

    • @attackoncardboard
      @attackoncardboard  4 месяца назад +3

      I was wondering when this comment would show up 😂

    • @DarkRebellion7832
      @DarkRebellion7832 3 месяца назад

      WOTC, I'd like a refund. I opened up my booster pack and got a pack of beans. please send help.

    • @anannoyedpanda
      @anannoyedpanda 3 месяца назад

      Excuse me Gabe Newell, I'd like a refund.
      I was winning a modern challenge when all my opponents said this mother fucka eatin BEANS.
      I would like to refund your game please.

  • @TheButler98
    @TheButler98 4 месяца назад +3

    Who could have guessed that eldrazi and artifacts are powerful! The shock!

    • @attackoncardboard
      @attackoncardboard  4 месяца назад

      And now people who are new to the game also know!

  • @ZackeroniAndCheese
    @ZackeroniAndCheese 4 месяца назад +3

    This game has been powercrept into a husk of itself

    • @pablovirus
      @pablovirus 3 месяца назад +3

      Indeed lol that's why there are dedicated servers to play limited/draft of old formats :)

  • @p1k4nurxp13sr
    @p1k4nurxp13sr 4 месяца назад +8

    Beanstalk cantripped on its own at one less mana, that puts the floor way above unsealing, and the threshold being able to cantrip from solitude and leyline binding is why it’s so much better.

  • @superyahoo1822
    @superyahoo1822 5 месяцев назад +27

    I don’t think that it is as good as up the beanstalk because the main cards that broke it were leyline binding and solitude which this doesn’t work with but it will definetly be very powerful

    • @Billchu13
      @Billchu13 5 месяцев назад +4

      Solitude and other elementals still make spawn but yeah leyline was the biggest combo

  • @jkpjoe908
    @jkpjoe908 5 месяцев назад +11

    Never thought I'd see an eldrazi version of Sarkan's Unsealing...oh the hell this will bring

  • @LibertyMonk
    @LibertyMonk 5 месяцев назад +9

    Its neat at all, but it costs one more than beans, doesn't cantrip, and requires CMC two higher to trigger, AND it only triggers on creatures.
    Yeah, it does the rampy thing, and draws multiple cards per 7-drop, but that only matters if you're playing mono-blue eldrazi tron, or magically get to 7 mana in a high power format. It might be playable, but the fact it does nothing when it hits, and only triggers on creatures is meaningful.

    • @gabrielstafford5174
      @gabrielstafford5174 5 месяцев назад +2

      What got up the Beanstalk banned was its synergy with the evoke elementals and Leyline binding. I don't think it warps modern but it could see some play in affinity decks.

  • @noahludlow8860
    @noahludlow8860 4 месяца назад +2

    Also eldrazi have reliable ways of reducing their cost and ways of getting a lot of mana

  • @someguy1ification
    @someguy1ification 4 месяца назад +2

    Note that this costs more and doesn't replace itself on cast like beanstalk does, which are very significant differences

    • @attackoncardboard
      @attackoncardboard  4 месяца назад

      However it does draw you 3x as many cards.

    • @OremmGames
      @OremmGames 3 месяца назад

      Nahhhhhh.
      A beanstalk deck draws WAY more cards over the course of a game.​@@attackoncardboard

  • @donovan4444
    @donovan4444 4 месяца назад +2

    Beanstalk draws a card on turn two and can immediately draw more with free spells like solitude. Kozilek needs you to untap with it on turn 4 usually

  • @h3m1v33
    @h3m1v33 2 месяца назад +1

    well thats how i play my eldrazi deck on mtg arena. but i use urzas incubator which reduces the cost of creatures with a type i choose by 2, on top of having it that heralds the end which also reduces colourless cards with cost of 7 or higher by 1 you get your nulldrifter from 7 to 0 in no time, no need for evoking except if you need an early draw.
    funny thing is if you use the whole thing with glaring fleshraker. you basically play eldrazi for 0-2 mana and spawn in a token to give you a mana. on top of kozileks unsealing giving you tons of tokens from thought knot seer, which in turn is shooting tons of dmg with fleshraker.
    My list is(still laking some tokens to finish the deck):
    4x Chromatic Sphere
    4x It That Heralds the End
    4x Mind Stone
    4x Kozilek's Unsealing
    4x Glaring Fleshraker
    4x Matter Reshaper
    4x Urza's Incubator
    4x Thought-Knot Seer
    1x Ulalek, Fused Atrocity
    1x Forsaken Monument
    2x Echoes of Eternity
    4x Drowner of Truth
    4x Nulldrifter
    3x Cavern of Souls
    4x Conduit Pylons
    4x Crystal Grotto
    1x Three Tree City
    4x Ugin's Labyrinth
    already a tight list, but rlly consistent and fast. ofc historic decklist. echoes of eternity is so busted, since it copies the triggers of the other echoes as well. so the 2nd echo you play is copied which means you get 2 instead of 1. leaving you with 3 echoes. if you then play anything you get a trigger from fleshraker and 9 copies of that trigger. so fleshraker now spawns in 10 tokens which trigger fleshrakers second ability and shoot 10 dmg which is copied another 9 times so you end up with 100 dmg. so yeah against a lifegain deck you just dont care.
    but the main reason 2 echoes are in the deck is to increase the likelyhood of drawing one without getting stranded with useless cards in the early game in case you got a bad draw. i mean you can cycle through your entire deck in no time with the right cards.

  • @tc5589-1
    @tc5589-1 4 месяца назад +1

    Of note is that beanstalk doesn’t care if it’s a creature.

  • @aarontelander
    @aarontelander 2 месяца назад

    Forget this, Helga is the new beans now 😅

  • @anonymousaxolotl
    @anonymousaxolotl 2 месяца назад

    Nulldrifter is also really strong in Obeka!

  • @oridrake7735
    @oridrake7735 3 месяца назад

    You didn't need to play affinity to play Beanstalk, you just needed to play Fury or Leyline Binding

  • @papyrim7375
    @papyrim7375 4 месяца назад +1

    I can see where you're going with this, however I feel like this is an infinitely more situational beans, the old one triggered of, namely, force of will which was a bit part of it, the only really relevant cards this will trigger off of are Murtide, and the Myr Enforcer variants

    • @papyrim7375
      @papyrim7375 4 месяца назад +1

      It will be a massive upgrade to affinity admittedly, possibly strong enough to replace thought monster in some lists as theh now can run 12 myr enforcers

    • @attackoncardboard
      @attackoncardboard  4 месяца назад

      I'm keen to see how this card plays out. Happy to be wrong but drawing 3 cards a pop seems like it will more than make up for the ETB draw and the Elements/Force bonus draws.

  • @tcsmagicbox
    @tcsmagicbox 4 месяца назад +1

    Eldrazi flavored beans....Mmmmmm.

  • @the_metamancer
    @the_metamancer 4 месяца назад +1

    There are so many differences K's unsealing will not likely see modern play ever:
    3cmc matters a lot, this is an awful turn 3 play
    Unpitchable to evoke cards
    Does not replace itself with etb
    Does not enable interactive spells like solitude or leyline binding
    This is a casual commander card.

    • @attackoncardboard
      @attackoncardboard  4 месяца назад

      Affinity doesn't care about any of the things you just listed

    • @the_metamancer
      @the_metamancer 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@attackoncardboardcmc, replacing itself, do you even play modern? Decks are winning on turn 2-4 and the ones that aren't run a nauseating amount of premium interaction. Are you really planning on casting a 3 mana enchantment and saying "now my value engine is online"

  • @marionavarrogomez3995
    @marionavarrogomez3995 4 месяца назад

    My orcish bowmasters.... Hello!

  • @youdontknowwho505
    @youdontknowwho505 5 месяцев назад +7

    This… this combos hard with omnipotence, right?

    • @attackoncardboard
      @attackoncardboard  5 месяцев назад +4

      It certainly can! It doesn't care how much mana you pay, just what it says in the top right corner! 😃

    • @nobodyimportant2858
      @nobodyimportant2858 5 месяцев назад +12

      everything combos with omnipotence

    • @devanbrowne8706
      @devanbrowne8706 5 месяцев назад +11

      That's not a combo, that's just Omnipotence.

    • @cooperschulze7661
      @cooperschulze7661 5 месяцев назад +2

      Brother other than lands what doesn’t combo with omnipotence lmao

    • @sirplayalot11x
      @sirplayalot11x 5 месяцев назад +5

      ...do y'all mean omniscience?

  • @sable-eyesonixdragon8642
    @sable-eyesonixdragon8642 3 месяца назад +1

    It was an auto include for my Animar deck. Draw 3 is too good and animar is like the affinity for artifacts but a different condition.

  • @alien5589
    @alien5589 4 месяца назад

    This doesn’t trigger off leyline binding and force of will. Not as bad as beans

  • @Rub-Ish-g1j
    @Rub-Ish-g1j 5 месяцев назад +1

    Does my Imoti deck needa update?

  • @peaber69
    @peaber69 3 месяца назад

    No. Beanstalk draws a card on etb, costs one less, and draws a card when you cast any spell 5cmc or greater vs only creatures and 7 cmc. They are not the same.

  • @clarencecombs6766
    @clarencecombs6766 2 месяца назад

    Same text but in red. Now how pricey is it?

  • @Solo_Shuckle
    @Solo_Shuckle 4 месяца назад

    Imoti COmmander Decks go brrrrrrrrrrrt

  • @RLGMiniMe
    @RLGMiniMe 3 месяца назад

    If only rnd even spent 30 seconds looking at cards this wouldn't be 10 problematic cards in a single set

  • @scruffyryan
    @scruffyryan 2 месяца назад

    eldrazi were a mistake and bringing them back was a bigger one

  • @dainess2919
    @dainess2919 5 месяцев назад

    Its a Sarkhans Unsealing

    • @attackoncardboard
      @attackoncardboard  5 месяцев назад

      Yup, this set is actually Throwbacks Horizons 3

  • @cooperschulze7661
    @cooperschulze7661 5 месяцев назад +2

    Y’all are way way way too hype on this card and it should not be compared to beans. You can’t cast it until a turn later and it does nothing on etb. And I would say, even on its most generous evaluation, it’s win-more. At the end of the day, 3 mana do nothing enchantments just aren’t good in competitive 60 card constructed.

    • @attackoncardboard
      @attackoncardboard  5 месяцев назад

      Time will tell for sure on this one 🙂

    • @Cornelius135
      @Cornelius135 4 месяца назад +1

      Except for the 4 copies of ugin’s labyrinth the deck is sure to play, so turn 2 is still very likely. Definitely not as good as beans but it’s comparable

  • @dorping_Wolf
    @dorping_Wolf 5 месяцев назад +3

    Eldrazi Winter Is Coming... again

  • @SpitefulAZ
    @SpitefulAZ 3 месяца назад

    triggers on affinity creatures

    • @attackoncardboard
      @attackoncardboard  3 месяца назад +1

      Pretty sure I mention that in the video 😅

    • @SpitefulAZ
      @SpitefulAZ 3 месяца назад

      @@attackoncardboard high

    • @josephwodarczyk977
      @josephwodarczyk977 3 месяца назад

      ​@@attackoncardboard what are your thoughts on gif vs jif?

    • @attackoncardboard
      @attackoncardboard  3 месяца назад

      @@josephwodarczyk977 It's Graphics Interchange Format not Japhics Interchange Format

  • @gustavoramirezjr7320
    @gustavoramirezjr7320 2 месяца назад

    It's 3 mana and doesn't do anything the turn it comes in. It's a hard sale in modern.

  • @ashardalondragnipurake
    @ashardalondragnipurake 3 месяца назад

    they gave that the blue
    why
    bad wizards bad

  • @slowlylosingitaaaaaa
    @slowlylosingitaaaaaa 4 месяца назад

    wizards pumping out overpowered design mistake cards like they’re candy why am I not shocked

  • @maxscherzer9521
    @maxscherzer9521 5 месяцев назад

    >trigger

  • @PrinceGentleKnight
    @PrinceGentleKnight 5 месяцев назад +1

    Emrakul’s Influence is the same flavor, and was designed to be abused with Emerge and drew 2 cards. Also befits from being Green for ramp spells albeit costing 1 more to cast and only sees 7 and higher

    • @ElianaMCP
      @ElianaMCP 4 месяца назад

      Emrakul's only sees Eldrazi. Kozilek's Unsealing only cares if it's a creature spell, and if it has 4 or more mana value

    • @PrinceGentleKnight
      @PrinceGentleKnight 4 месяца назад

      @@ElianaMCP hence, same flavor.

  • @ZyggyZero
    @ZyggyZero 3 месяца назад

    As long as they don’t have that annihilator nonsense….

  • @lordpepper6932
    @lordpepper6932 5 месяцев назад +2

    Whats great is how fast some of these cards are gonna get banned when they come out

    • @gigawarman12
      @gigawarman12 5 месяцев назад

      Or not so that WotC can try to maintain the facade of the format's health

    • @lordpepper6932
      @lordpepper6932 5 месяцев назад

      @@gigawarman12 modern?! Health?! None existent

  • @BenovskyGM
    @BenovskyGM 4 месяца назад

    Whats with the wacky Mario Kart music?

  • @somebodyWhoExistsIGuess
    @somebodyWhoExistsIGuess 4 месяца назад

    "creature" spell

  • @ivanwong8216
    @ivanwong8216 3 месяца назад

    It's 3mana to start with that makes it sucks then bean stock

  • @mutes8697
    @mutes8697 4 месяца назад

    Uh but beans did that without any extra steps that why it’s banned

    • @attackoncardboard
      @attackoncardboard  4 месяца назад +1

      Beans drew you a single card yes. And then if you cast another 5 cost you got another card. Here, you're drawing 3, which is likely drawing me to more spells that I can cast for free which then repeats the loop.
      Green beans are good for small advantage. Blue Beans can draw the rest of your deck.

  • @RagingPoo
    @RagingPoo 4 месяца назад

    The looping shit is so old

  • @azurepuppy4387
    @azurepuppy4387 4 месяца назад

    Ya but it’s not an artifact and 3 mana is very steep for an affinity deck especially with ya know you have like 4 simulacrums and 2-4 unsealing 😢 your not getting 1st place in a tournament it will be beat by at least 1 deck

  • @NHTYSYX
    @NHTYSYX 3 месяца назад

    Most of the mh3 eldrazi cards needs a ban.

  • @c.d.aragus3315
    @c.d.aragus3315 3 месяца назад

    It's mana not maRna

  • @ostarakonrad9907
    @ostarakonrad9907 3 месяца назад

    Not the same card boss

  • @bariltrailette
    @bariltrailette 3 месяца назад

    Why wizard are so crazy like that we ban a card and we create a better card for one more mana so stupid.

  • @Nazferot2
    @Nazferot2 2 месяца назад

    How about this we stop crying about every card and just play! For the love of urza if everyone had there way we all would be playing cards with no sub text at all.

  • @whattupmang
    @whattupmang 3 месяца назад

    Nah not better really.

    • @attackoncardboard
      @attackoncardboard  3 месяца назад

      Why's that?

    • @whattupmang
      @whattupmang 3 месяца назад +1

      @@attackoncardboard it just costs more, doesn’t replace itself, and only hits on creature spells… which if you spent turn 3 doing this, you likely need to consider a board wipe or interaction to reset the build up on board.
      Situationally, it’s a cool card and will do its thing sometimes if the stars align, but Beanstalk is just a tier above in card quality.

  • @maxclubhouse9968
    @maxclubhouse9968 3 месяца назад

    Surely this is clickbait. If this is an honest take , you probably probably play more magic instead of making content