**2,500 Mile Review ** - All Electric Ford Transit
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- Follow along with us as we share with you our experience of owning and operating the new all electric Ford E-Transit van. We aren't paid automotive reviewers. We're real customers who paid about $56,000 for our E-Transit. So we have real expectations that the van needs to live up to. In this video, we discuss the range and other characteristics that make the E-Transit unique and also a perfect fit for us!
So far, we are absolutely loving our E-Transit. It's performing better than expected and saving us a ton of money of fuel. We rarely drive over 70 miles per day so there's zero range anxiety. We know we have plenty of range to complete our daily driving needs and we recharge nightly on a Ford Level 2 Connected Charger. So we start each day with a full charge.
Our van also has the Ford Pro Power Pack which allows us to plug in tools while we work and cordless tool batteries while we drive from job to job.
We have done several other videos about the E-transit including a few range videos where we start the day with a full charge and run it completely to zero miles remaining. One range video was with the empty van as it came from the factory. Another range video was with the van loaded down with our standard truck stock, tools and shelving.
For more great info, check out our other videos on this channel or visit our webpage at www.CallSmedley.com
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What an intelligent, practical assessment of an EV and its role in your business model! If I lived within your service area, you would have already earned my business. Wish you folks the best!
Thanks!
Hello neighbors. I work at Magna in Liberty where we make a ton of parts for the Ford Transit (every model). I like your videos because I can see the end point of all the labor we do, welding parts all day in the summer heat. Keep up the videos! Thanks. -Tom
Thanks Tom! And thanks for making a great product!
Really appreciating these videos! They go so much further than the average review
Thanks!
Thanks for the great update. Glad it’s working out so well for you.
Thanks for watching!
Mitch you are doing a fabulous job on all these videos for this e transit. I have a whole bunch of questions but you have answered every one I can think of and a few i didn't. I have been a ford guy so I am glad to see they are putting out really good product such as this van. It is very important to there survival in this e.v. transition.
Thanks!
Very informative RUclips channel on the E-Transit this is very good stuff to know for contractors like myself I have a electrical company and this channel has been the best that I have found that isn't endorsed by Ford .I went today to go test drive one it was a nice ride it se to start to slow down as soon as you let of the gas pedal which I would think would cut down on the brakes pads needing g to be replaced as often as well as no oil changes.
Thanks for the video I learned more about my future fird e transit then watching the ford channel. Expecting my new e transit in October
What a thorough and succinct review! Fantastic and very professional. Thank you very much. Im planning on getting the 2024 etransit for my delivery route.
Glad it was helpful!
In my low roof model I’m getting 155-160 after just 3 days of driving ( hvac service) fully loaded. Avg 2.5 kWh
Yeah the math checks out that if you can average 2.5 or more, your range will be over 150 miles. What drive mode do you use? And are you using L mode?
Does anyone know what’s the savings on Maintainance?
@@lobster1002 should be huge. Less brake jobs and zero transmission concerns and zero oil changes.
@@SmedleyPlumbing I guess the only downside is we all have to wait.
@@lobster1002 yep. Time will tell.
So great to hear the opinions from people who are not professional reviewers and are just living and using the vehicles day to day. Even reviewers who try to do "real world tests" will never get the true experience of long term ownership. Keep on truckin!
Your assessment of vehicle weight vs. wind resistance is spot on. Weight becomes more a factor in frequent start/stop driving at low speeds (e.g. neighborhood deliveries) and when driving to higher elevations (up and down mountains), but once you're rolling, you're rolling.
The power needed to overcome air resistance scales with the CUBE of speed - double the speed means EIGHT TIMES the power draw, and this obviously chews into your range, but the cooling system is working harder and the efficiency of the motor and battery drop slightly under high power which is just salt in the wound. If you do a lot of highway driving, going 60 instead of 65 can make a noticeable difference in range for any EV... probably more so for a brick on wheels!
Thanks for the feedback! We love it!
Thank you Smedley Plumbing. I am so glad Ford did the math and pulled the trigger on this. Just the thing we local service tradesmen need. Very rarely do I cover more than 60 miles in a work day. What do you know about the compact Transit? If Nissan imported the NV 200 electric to the US they would turn things around.
Not sure! Only time will tell!
Thank you! On the fence to wait for 2023 Lightning... or buy the ETransit of the lot at dealership now.
Those are two completely different vehicles. The lightning will have better range and more features for sure. I'd love to have one.
Hey Mitch my 1500 W inverter is working perfectly. It never drains the 12 v battery and I don’t have to deal with running the van just to charge my Dewalt batteries with the pro power option.
That's good to hear. I'm still nervous to hook anything up to the 12v battery on this one. I still haven't hooked up the winch that we have in the other vans.
I really do like how they did regen braking on the transit. Felt intuitive unlike the Tesla Model Y I drove. I just hope the next model year is more refined from a build quality standpoint.
Not sure how much more refined they can get. They are purposely trying to keep the cabin and the cargo area identical to the gas models.
@@SmedleyPlumbing they basically slapped a battery pack and motors on it and called it an ev. The cooling and high voltage lines are exposed for the battery. I'm also still curious to see how much debris builds up on top of the battery pack as you put more miles on it.
Your really tempting me man to order one I am a locksmith so this will definitely give me huge savings compare to pumping 120 of diesel every 2 days
Can you work with 120-130 miles of range?
@@SmedleyPlumbing yea totally man I have the diesel for back up just incase but with a 240 I should be good to charge pretty quickly. I want to get the high roof
Nice report. Good to see companies as yours taking on EV.
The V2L (pro power) is great for contractors.
Affordable option too.
Thanks!
@@SmedleyPlumbing is there a plug available without the power pack option?
@@andreaarmenti773 there is not
Thank you for posting this!
We are a wood flooring specialty contractor and we are definitely interested and about to purchase our first E Transit.
We live in the inland northwest and winters are cold.
Can you tell me anything about range being affected by heater/defrost usage?
I wonder if it can be left plugged in during morning time when the vehicle is “warming up” and defrosting its windshield?
Thanks!
You should totally get one
Great video I didn't know about the 1 tap regen. I will try that. I don't like the placement of the shifter. Wish they gave another cup holder there to put my phone. Can't put the phone on the dash as the sun just cooks it.
Agreed. It feels like they could have utilized that space more efficiently.
If (when?) it has a more efficient battery and at least double the range, it would be my next (and last) vehicle. Thanks for sharing your experience.
I'm sure they're considering that at Ford.
20:15 Hi Mitch, you didn't scroll down in the pro power onboard settings view. There you can change the range limit where pro power onboard is deactivated. Maybe you haven't noticed it. Thank you for your very informative videos.
Yeah you can change it so it will run with lower battery.
I would watch anything you review lol. I would be great if you can educate us about camping mode for those of us who wants to use it for camping.
They don't really have a camping mode. You can plug in and then run the pro power onboard while plugged in but that's about it. These first genodels aren't really designed for camping just yet.
thanks for sharing the video, I have a lot of respect for you. I have a question about load capacity. maybe you can help me with this. I have the long version high roof cargo van. I put shelves in it and loaded all my tools. now it bottoms out and drags the back bumper when I go over a hump. did you have this problem with your van? I'm trying to find out the rear spring rates any help would be greatly appreciated
I think which screwing it up for me is the long version van sticks out past the rear wheels. all the weight is really pushing down on the back wheels. I installed airlift bags on the rear springs it doesn't really help much I would like to go to a stiffer rear spring
I don't have an extended length e-transit. But they do ride incredibly similar to each other. So I would expect the spring rates and sag under load to be similar as well.
hi, quick question tho. do you guys have any prediction or estimates from Ford of how much battery charge drops during winter time? thanks
We don't but we're guessing that we'll still achieve the 106 mile claim from Ford.
I wonder how much mileage drops with a ladder rack and ladders on the roof, my old 2006 pre def sprinter 2500 high roof went up 100 miles per tank once I took the ladders and rack off the roof with it fully loaded at or near max gvw
Yeah anything that increases wind resistance will have a negative effect on range for sure.
Interesting about the no change in range with payload. So I wonder what happens when you raise and install bigger tires? So the weight shouldn’t matter but the bigger radius of wheels what affect on the range.
That would likely effect range quite a bit. Taller tires put more leverage against the motor. It would take more power input to push taller tires,
Aerodynamics is everything.
...until winter 🥶
Yeah we are eager to see how cold weather effect range
It's exciting to see that there's a full size E van available in the US. Too bad that the range is so limited. They'll need to double that before I'm a customer.
You drive more than 130 miles per day?
@@SmedleyPlumbing I use my van for traveling. 130 miles is only a couple of hours down the highway.
@@glennr9913 Yeah, then the E-Transit is definitely not the best option for you. It's designed for in-town delivery and service use.
It's three taps for full-ish regenerative braking: 30/60/90.
That might be for normal driving mode. When in eco mode, there ses to be no difference between tap #2 and #3.
When the van is started do the headlights come on? Can the vehicle be powered with out the headlights?\
Our has the HID headlights. So the rim lights come on when the van is on. Otherwise, I believe you can have the headlights off when the van is on.
I wish you guys would have pop the hood and show them what it look like and everything and what I look like on the inside
We can totally do a video about what's under the hood!
How does using heat of ac affect the range I’m in Chicago area would like to know how cold weather would affect
We haven't been able to test heat yet. But AC doesn't have too large of an effect. We are running 85°-90° here and we aren't shy with our AC usage. Lol
iirc the E-Transit uses a resistive heater rather than a heat pump so it could have a pretty substantial impact especially with extreme cold. Even with a heat pump system our Soul EV had significant range losses in the pretty mild SoCal winter.
@@NickBlethrow - yes to resistive. Expect 25-30% less range when it’s really cold out and driver wants to be warm.
Strange question. I want to buy one of these for the possible pro power outlets in the back. Do you have that option? I want to build it as a camper for city living. It would have very minimal driving. A few miles a day. But those outlets would theoretically be powering the camper part. I wouldn't want to let it to drain the batteries too much without being able to automatically stop it. I'd hope to set a limit and keep it between 20% and 80% charge.
Yes it automatically shuts off the pro power pack at 40 miles of range remaining. You can adjust that number too.
@@SmedleyPlumbing Perfect! Thank you for your response. Your videos are just what I am looking for, despite my widely different use case. I had a feeling it would have that as an option, as the lightning does. But I couldn't find any information on it.
@@SmedleyPlumbing just got to the part of the video where you mention all of the pro power stuff. I should waited until after I finished the video. My apologies!
I’m a barber looking to buy one for my mobile barber business .. I’m really interested in the rear power outlet or any outlet on the van. I wanna know how long that battery would last me if I idle my van and be stationed to service my clients.. How would the battery be affected just by using the outlet the whole day for about a 7hr day.. would you be able to help me with this question? Majority of my clients will travel to me ..so it shouldn’t be a problem.
2 more questions .. How many things can be plugged into the power in the back ..Last and finale question Is the Ac enough to cool the whole van front and rear?.. Love the videos !! Very informative.
The van will last quite a while running Barber style equipment like clippers. It's a cargo unit so the AC is really only ducted for the front driver's area but you might be able to make something work. There are two outlets in the rear and there is one outlet on the inside of the passenger seat. It's a 20 amp circuit that runs those outlets so I doubt you'll overload it. I've run a drain auger for 3 hours straight and it did not take very many miles off of the range.
I’m a flooring installer. What are your thoughts on using the E-Transit?
If you can work with a daily range of 130 miles or less, DO IT!
@@SmedleyPlumbing I think they’re coming out with an all wheel drive unit for 23
What are your thoughts do you have an update on the E transit for my business I do about 80 miles a day a lot of that is in traffic going to work and coming home right now I'm using a Ford Econoline 2013 with all the seats taken it's mowers blowers hauling plants compost I have an EV myself the van would be for my manager, we have the charger set up at my house already I use a small box trailer to carry my stuff and I recently purchased a used 2019 Audi e-tron which will tow 4000 lb I am getting about 150 Mile range every day towing the trailer the e-tron has a range of 200 miles normally I do 80 miles a day myself and it works out fine and if need be we can fast charge I am in the Seattle area
We average 70-80 miles a day and it works perfectly for us.
@@SmedleyPlumbing Thank you
I read that Ford recommends a 90% charge to prolong the battery life. You think charging to 90% you could still run all your calls?
We are currently charging to 80% and still making the rounds nicely. That might change when the weather turns colder but time will tell.
What about towing? I need to tow a 6 by 10 trailer. Is this possible ?
Towing is totally possible. Ours doesn't have a tow package so I can't speak too much about how it effects range. But it's got plenty of power to tow with.
@@SmedleyPlumbing I know according to some folks like "Alex on Autos" you should expect similar losses to those you would see with a gas vehicle from towing. So if you hypothetically get a 50% reduction in mpg on a gas vehicle you would also expect ~50% range loss with an equivalent EV. YMMV of course
ford doesn't say you can tow but i think its a total payload of 4400 pounds i saw one time but if your interior cargo is 1900 that's a pretty small trailer left
@@ncktbs yeah. You could tow but I would recommend it since the range is already so low.
7:51 it's about time someone said what L mode was for.
Lol. Yeah it works very well in heavy start-stop driving.
You using fast chargers at all?
We have a few time. 20-80% takes about 30 minutes.
Lol. We don't get the upper right link's on the screen. Watched on a 75 inch tv, LG you tube app
Dang! I'm fairly new to RUclips. I'm not sure they work on a TV. I'll try to check that out for myself soon.
@@SmedleyPlumbing Upper-right links showed up fine watching on PC w/ Chrome browser.
Can you charge the van and have it on at the same time?
If you in a charging station and is hot can you run ac while the van is plug to a charger?
You can have it on accessory mode while you're charging but the van won't turn on while charging. The AC seems to work while in accessory mode.
I'm waiting on my order but seems like keeps delaying when I place the order was for 2022 and they just send me the update that will be 2023.
I have plumbing business myself
do you charge it to 100% every day? is that allowed by ford?
Yes and yes. Some days I only drive 20 miles so I won't charge that night. But I charge to 100% every charge
@@SmedleyPlumbing does it have “camper mode” like a Tesla for running HVAC unattended for extended d periods? Dog mode? Can hvac or other functions be controlled from a smartphone?
@@bob15479 no camper mode. The vehicle would need to be left on for dog mode. You and preprogram heating and cooling times on the display but no smart phone controls that I'm aware of. Those are more passenger model features that you wouldn't expect on a work vehicle.
@@SmedleyPlumbing so I could program it for 70 degrees all day? And effective have camping mode?
@@bob15479 hypothetically, yes. If it's plugged into a charger during those times, it will use shore power instead of battery power too.
Can you pull a trailer?
They don't come with a hitch but many have added a hitch. They pull just fine.
@@SmedleyPlumbing Right-on thanks. I haven't been able to find any info on that, but I'm guessing it will because it has all the same load carrying ability and even more torque than a regular gas engine.
@@HaywardFamilybuilding I think they left a towing option off since it could effect range. From what I've seen, range is only slightly effected as long as the trailer profiles behind the van since the vehicle itself takes most of the wind.
@@SmedleyPlumbing makes since. We are a small company that doesn't drive very far daily even if towing a load of demo to the dump. Also have you seen or do you have the third seat option in the front of your vans?
@@HaywardFamilybuilding no third seat option for now.
So the e-transit is like a laptop that can't have anything plugged into USB while it's plugged into the wall? Seems limiting...
Typically, if you're near a charger then you're near wall power for your tools or appliances.
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Too bad you can't even buy one I've tried
I see them for sale all the time. I don't think you can order one right now but there's plenty on the lots.
@@SmedleyPlumbing I've been looking at all the lots for months where is one available that you've seen? The ones on the lots I'm told are for demo purposes only and cannot be sold
@@SmedleyPlumbing correction I've found one Ford E transit for sale but they purchased a transit and added the E parts and are selling the new electric for $110,000 the only benefit is the battery is much bigger and the vehicle going farther per charge it's by lightning motors
@@brandondennis7197 try joining some Transit and E-Transit groups on Facebook. They pop up for sale there every week. Seem to be running $65k on average right now.
@@SmedleyPlumbing do you know what forms I can join to find one?
Only 200 miles, what a joke 😂
Not for a company that only drives 70 miles a day!