I love that the movie implies everything that just happened could have been a daydream he was having, while sitting in that asylum, but it also could be the perfect establishment of a Joker villian and his cult for future Batman movies, if they were willing to build a DC universe off of it (which they're not).
My theory is that it was a fake story he told his psychiatrist in the asylum. His age is totally different from Bruce Wayne's. Bruce's father is suddenly the bad guy. And all the clocks in the movie are stopped at 11h00. I think he simply made up a victim story for himself to see if his psychiatrist would believe him, then laughed at her, and then eliminated her.
"My point is... I went crazy, and I'm smart enough to admit it. Why can't you?? Do you even have any idea how many times we've come close to World War 3 over a flock of geese on a computer screen?! It's all a joke! Everything that anyone has ever stood for or fought for, it's monstrous! Why can't you see the funny side? Why aren't you laughing?!"😂
he tries so hard to be a decent person and make people happy and all he gets is being fucked up and humiliated. But as soon as he went bad all are cheering to him. This is a portrayal of a deeply sick society.
Some fun facts: The scene where Arthur punches the clock off the wall, the dance in the bathroom after killing those guys and him getting into the refrigerator were improvised by Joaquin Phoenix. The scene where he is shown in the alley kicking trash in anger before collapsing was actually Joaquin dislocating his knee. Every clock you see in the movie reads “11:11”. Arthur’s mother calls him “Happy” because of his laughing condition.
I think she calls him "Happy" to distract him and herself from the traumatic shit she did to him in the past. Pretending he is "such a happy child" all the time, despite deep down she knows very well whats wrong with him and the wrong she did to him.
@@RoxxSerm apparently her Arkham file reads that she was lobotomized, so she doesn't remember anything. She was already crazy before, but this explains why now she's simply incapable of taking care of herself at all
Another improvised part by Joaquin was when he crosses out forget with his own blood on the don't forget to smile sign. Also when he is dancing with the gun in the living room and having the conversation with himself before shooting the wall was all improvised they knew he was going to shoot the gun at some point but the dance and conversation was all Joaquin. Honestly I think he did an amazing job in this movie.
Huh, 11:11? I was told once that wishes come true whenever the clock matches like this (02:02, 10:10,etc). But, that 11:11 is the either the time the wishes are granted, or the time that has the highest possibility of granting the wish.
I think it's the opposite. Arthur was his mask, where he was constantly trying to fit in, and play by the rules of society, trying to behave like someone without a mental illness. The shift in the movie happens when he accepts his true self, warts and all, which is the joker. From then on he finally stops masking, so he's confident in himself, in his own skin, and happier as a result.
so just as a note, Joker doesn't really have a 'set' origin. His origin is ambiguous and explored in different ways. The scenes in Dark Knight where he constantly changes how he got his scars is a bit of a nod to this. His origin is unknown. This 'origin' of Joker is just one story to add to the many stories of how Joker became 'Joker', so in regards to 'does this line up with the comics' it doesn't need to. it's a take on a story that doesn't have a cement/solid origin in the comics.
It would be cool if these modern joker movies just explored different versions of his origins, and showed the different types of abuse and mental disorders that could lead Arthur into becoming the joker😊
@@garydorsey4243 I agree, I'd have preferred a different joker-take rather than a joker 2. I'm sure it'll be great, but would have loved to see them exploring different 'origins' I especially like the theory that Dark Knight Joker was ex-military.
I still remember when i first saw this with my grandma in the theaters, ill never forget her laugh when Arthur shot up the dudes on the train, she was so mad at them for being bullies 💀
@@lawlietriver8869 And the whole scenario proves what he said at the end right. If he hadn't had the gun, and they'd killed him, it would have never been a news story. It was only deemed worth reporting because they were rich guys.
The reason aurthurs mom had no idea, and didn’t see the abuse was because she was also lobotomized at Arkam. It’s a blink and you miss it in the files. Also the bloody footprints at the end was that he killed the psychiatrist in the hospital
Also, he has always had the condition of laughing without that matching his emotional state. Her memory would be a laughing boy even though another child in the same situation would be crying.
@@QuickdrawMcShawthe1stI think this is such an important and really painful point that’s overlooked. Years of him laughing when other people would be wailing is horrifying to think about, especially as the laughing likely escalated the abuse.
The reason why I like this movie is because it talks about how society fails us. Most people pick on those who they dont understand and not many people protects others. He is mentally struggling and he sees people and yet they let him down. Also you are unsure what is real and not. Just like how he does not understand. So many people in this world are struggling and fall through the cracks of the help they truly need. This sad world can truly make someone "mad".
Actually, I love that Joker 2 exists, because it created discourse enough to have "I fixed your movie" versions.... Kinda like WISH was panned enough to spawn a redo on RUclips as a LOL.... Labor Of Love.
Hate it as much as you like. I love it a lot, and it relate to me a lot 😆 I can't count how many times I broke into "muscial" in imagination during tough time at home/office or on the street just realized everything is back to normal a few minutes later and then "oh well... back to work". Although the movie is an extremely exaggeration of those moment, it exaggerated in a good way.
Hey guys! Editor here, glad to finally put this video back up. For those who don’t know this reaction was uploaded last December and got taken down, but we finally had the time to get it back up! I will say my editing on this feels a little outdated but I hope you’ll enjoy it nevertheless! Thanks guys!
Your sensitivity and empathy blow me away. I think a lot of people see you as the gooch man but dont realise how it's really a façade to hide how much you feel things. You're analysis of this film was so perfect it really got to me😭❤️
I remember seeing a documentary about a man who had the same medical condition Arthur has, and he explained that on his way back from his wedding, a car crashed into his car and both his wife and stepmother died on impact. When the paramedics told him in the ambulance that both of them were dead, he laughed and couldn't stop.
This movie is so heartbreaking an hits too close to home. There's way too many ppl who can't afford the mental health care they need and end up with ppl with an old school approach of treating the illness instead of the person 😢
As someone who struggles with mental health issues this movie hit me hard. When his psychiatrist said they don't care about you I cried in the theater.
As far as I know, Joker is the only comic book character whose performance earned its actor the Academy Award. Twice. One Best Supporting Oscar for Heath Ledger's turn in THE DARK KNIGHT (posthumously), and one Best Actor Oscar for Joaquin Phoenix's JOKER. That's how fukkin' amazing this comic book character is.
As someone with depression,social anxiety and anxiety,ptsd and dealing with trauma when I was a child with parents and SA I was told to suppress it by my own paren s because they didn’t want anyone to know what that family member did. Not to mention at this time it happened I was bullied horribly and I had to move to three schools and it was absolutely the worst years of my life. That’s why I make sure my little sister is a success but not to pressure her. I don’t want her to go through what I did.
So sorry to hear that, keeping all of what you've stated in mind, does that mean that you really sympathize with the "Joker" in this movie, if so, how much? and at what point did you stop sympathizing and realize he is evil, if so?
Murder is wrong, period, but his talking points made sense. People with mental health disorders are looked down on and made fun of. Would people make fun of a diabetic or someone fighting cancer? Probably not.
Joaquin has been very open about his mental health struggles which is probably why you see so much hurt and emotion in his eyes during the asylum scene
I hear method acting does this to actors anyway. Any time Christian Bale, Heath Ledger, or other method actors would do the extreme to get into the characters mindset, it would also put them sort of in a Funk of feeling that way. A big role like this, with all that it means and represents, I'm sure was difficult to take on for a prolonged period of time, especially to the extent that Joaquine immersed himself into that state of mind. If you look at Heath preparing for the same role, he literally isolated himself in a room for weeks to get the feeling of being totally alone. Isolation for anyone can have really detrimental and even permanent effects on the mind.
What a fantastic reaction, i have a sister with a lot of mental health issues and you compassion and understanding is very heart warming. you are fastly becoming my favourite reactor.
Yeah, it's frustrating how few people understand mental illness. I have experienced the kind of bullying Arthur gets through a lot of the movie and shared many of the same feelings. Being schizophrenic was difficult when I didn't really know, because people always treated me like I was nuts, but then when I got a diagnosis it was worse because I knew I was nuts - not quirky, or eccentric, but run of the mill crazy. Arthur, here, is a very real story of "there, but for the grace of god, go I".
I think for many people, especially successful ones, they are uncomfortable acknowledging the fact that some peoples existence may be vastly different from their own. They feel it invalidates their successes, and their feelings of superiority, if they acknowledge that some people are afflicted by demons outside of their control. They prefer to think that everyone is in an equal race, and that they have won through their own determination and strength, not the whims of subatomic particles blipping in and out of existence.
In my opinion, this is a movie about mental health that they wanted to get out there and so they based it around the joker because he is a great character to show how the world treats and forgets about people who see the world different than others
So many people cast aside those that struggle with mental health disorders ( which includes drug and alcohol abuse), but if someone has any other physical disease oh they're fighting a disease. When mental health issues are involved people are told to get over it. When my dad was dying of cancer no one told him to get over it.
We didn't have a set origin story for Joker since he always seems to just make what he wants up, but this and this mental health disorder seems very plausible. I actually appreciate the way the film portrayed his development and desperation to just have some justice. I think the rioting and descend into chaos of Gotham came about really naturally. Him being somewhat of a martyr for the little people in Gotham just makes sense.
@@TexArizocan they were just two different takes on a joker. And that’s what’s so great about the Joker is that he doesn’t really have a backstory, so he can be portrayed in so many different ways.
The reason this film polarized critics and some viewers is the belief that it sympathized and even glorified a villain, when it's just an objective view of a man's tragic life
Coming from someone who's was diagnosed with PTSD from an abusive father, there are many points in time in my life I don't remember, so badly enough that I can barely remember a single moment during middle and high school. My mom would sometimes ask me about moments during that time when I was happy and I couldn't remember any of it. Her heart was broken when it all clicked.
As someone that blanks out trauma and extreme stress, yes, the memories of the time are just nonexistent. I “know” I functionally moved through whatever I’m blocking. But I created no memory of it to recall later. For example my parents got divorced and my mom was so horrible during the lead up to the divorce that I “ lost “ an entire year of time. My family calls it the year of the void. Because I was there obviously…but at the same time “I wasn’t there.”
By the end of this movie I legit forgot that Joaquin Phoenix didn't have all those mental disorders that Arthur had. Such an absolutely amazing performance man!
9:45 that's so true, i have bipolar disorder, panic attack's and been stressed more than half of my life but people here don't care or don't believe since you look normal
The laughing condition is a real thing. It's called the psuedobulbar affect. Sudden or uncontrollable fits of laughter or crying. It's actually considered a neurological effect and not a psychiatric effect, although it has similar symptoms to depression.
Even though he’s an unreliable narrator, Arthur’s arc into the Joker is awesome because the movie actually shows a villain arc instead of redeeming him like so many other movies about villains.
I always likes Batman comics because you see that the "good guys" aren't always that good and the "bad guys" might not always be that bad. Like in this, obviously the Joker is a bad dude, but you see how and why he snapped the way he did. And all these "good guys" in the show, like Bruce Wayne, who are considered heroes to the rich community, turns out to be horrible behind the scenes. The cops are all corrupt and so all these people who seek justice start to take it into their own hands, which ironically is exactly what Batman is doing as well. Gotham is literally a whole damn city of people who point at each other and scream wrongdoings while not understanding they're the biggest hypocrites in the world. Whatever side you're on, you're no better than your opponent.
My favorite part about his laugh when he shoots the guy at the end is that it seems like a real laugh A *real* laugh Not the ones he's been constantly having due to his condition for who can say how long
I don't think it's his desire to be loved, more of a desire for human connection. Because of his condition, people think he's strange and scary, but all he wants is to connect with someone and feel it. Not feel so isolated and alone. Being loved may be part of it, but I think it's a little deeper than just that.
In the movie you hear and see news articles about super rats running around Gotham, and if you pay attention in the background of multiple scenes you can actually see giant rats running around
My take: everything after he gets in the fridge is in his head. He's still in Arkham Asylum. That's why, after the crash, you see him talking to the counselor yet he doesn't have a scratch on him. And you can see the reference to Thomas Wayne being killed so it's not like weeks have passed. Also, if you really look, every scene that has a clock, they all show the same time.
Let's gooooo! I'm 53 and I still get smacked in the face with memories from my childhood that I suppressed. Smell, taste just some things come outta nowhere and it hits me like a ton of bricks
I wish I could get my grandparents to watch RUclips they say they are too old if they only know there's stuff for all ages. Although this channel I think is geared more towards kids my age
@DR.DisInfect my mom is 80 and she loves RUclips. Once I got her interested she stopped watching mainstream TV and is now all about it. Just got to find something they like and start playing it around them. Alex is awesome and reminds me of my nephew. I follow people of all ages, shades, backgrounds etc. I enjoy all types of people
As someone with CPTSD, I do have chunks of my life that I do not remember due to the trauma. It's just completely blank but I was aware of the abuse despite being a child at the time. I just don't remember most details thankfully. I have had a memory pop up in a dream after completely forgetting. Wasn't very pleasant. Anyways, I really love this movie and I wish more people cared for those with mental health issues.
@9:43 This is such an important part of the video because I feel like you're speaking from the POV of someone who's never been diagnosed with a mental health issue. (I could totally be wrong there and presumptuous, and if that's the case, I am so very sorry.) But if that is the case, I REALLY appreciate hearing someone who doesn't struggle with their mental health display such empathy and really attempt to understand how awful it is to endure. I've watched many of your videos, and this one will be a favorite simply because of the kindness you showed. The character may be fictional, but the mental health issues he struggles with are not.
This movie can be seen as a nice connection to the Dark Knight joker as an expanded version of "do you wanna know how i got these scars?". Its the rantings of an insane man telling his story and you never know which parts are true.
And also in the way that, this joker at least, has an insane amount of scars, they're just on the inside. Which is exactly what's frustrating to him - that it's invisible to others, so they expect you to behave "normally"..
@@breesybird9207 the point of my statement is that if you connect them in this way, it explains the bizarre "wannabe king of comedy" story, because it's an exaggeration and possible lie about joker and his origins. It's left in mystery as always. The man you see in this movie is a fabricated joke created by the Joker.
@@breesybird9207 They both deserved to win the Oscar. Phoenix had to play it the way he did. He couldn't have done what Ledger did because it would have been the same. But there are some people who think that there is no such thing as mental illness. Phoenix's take was of a very delusional man. They both did a great job.
I think that Rotten Tomatoes critic score compared to audience score just shows why you should never trust a professional critics review any more. They no longer look at things with a neutral bias, but more often than not with a personal hatred.
mental illness can be such a strange thing to experience and this film manages to capture the uneasy feelings and actions that occur because of it. i love the scene of him climbing in the fridge because it feels so real. there is no obvious reason for him to do it, but when mentally unstable you can sometimes just feel the urge to do something like that. to stand on the kitchen counter, sit on the roof, get in the fridge. same with him dancing. sometimes your brain just makes you act on the impulses to move your body in certain ways and to bask in the supposed insanity and to just FEEL and experience existing for a moment even if the method is unconventional. its a way to prove to yourself that you have free will and are still alive even if you dont feel fully present or lucid. this movie does such a good job of showing the weirdness that comes with mental unstability without making fun of it
Or did he? The thing about this is, you never know what's real with Arthur or not. He could've killed her and is walking out of the ward, or he's sitting in his cell imagining the whole thing.
13:14 the music was there before the scene, they just put on the music and our beloved actor started moving to it, also btw: in order to be skinny enough to play arthur he didn’t ate more than an apple for like a month. the producers offered him help to lose weight the healthy way but he was like “nah i got my own way” got that all from the official bts video here on youtube
I applaud your sympathy toward mental health issues.... so many people just REALLY don't even want to try to understand. Like so many things, it's easier to bury your head in the sand. **edit - for speileng 😂 I am an old "metal head" so it made sense to me. 🙃
If you pay attention when Arthur is painting his face and looks at the picture, the back is signed by Wayne confirming the relationship between him and arthurs mother
He's not a serial killer in one go. He killed the first 2 in self-defense (not murd3r) The 3rd... he hunted down and executed, so that was no longer self-defense.
Who took what as a playbook? Do you really think any of the stuff that shows up in this movie hasn't actively been happening in certain parts of the world for decades?
@@smileyhappyface5864 What OP is trying to say is that people take this movie as a playbook and justification to behave in toxic ways. The author of Fight Club wrote the novella in the 90's, at that time toxic traits being pushed off as healthy masculinity was just starting to catch hold in the mainstream narrative. Fight club is a dark parody of toxic traits being pushed off as healthy masculinity and some people completely missed the point. In Joker, Arthur is someone with serious emotional and psychological problems. All around him people are being shitty and violent, sometimes to him. He uses that as an excuse to become shitty and violent. When the 3 guys went to beat him up on the subway, and he shot and killed 2 of them, if he had simply stayed in the car and waited for the police, he could've probably could've gotten out of it. But he chased the third guy down and shot him 3 times in the back. By chasing down the third guy who was running away and no longer a threat to him, and shooting him in the back, that was him stepping across the line to becoming someone who is shitty and violent and destructive. He's given opportunities throughout the movie to potentially stop and face-up to what he's done. Instead he chooses to respond to everyone around him who are being shitty and violent and destructive by becoming shitty and violent and destructive, and reveling in it...and some people completely missed the point.
@@shrekkek9396 Narrator(yes, he's called Narrator in the movie credits) is feeling unhappy and a bit emasculated. Those are entirely him problems. Does he go talk to a therapist and try to work out to the root of the problems? Does he take the buds out to a bar, have a few brews and talk his feelings out? No. He forms illegal, underground fighting rings and domestic terror cells, and makes his feelings of unhappiness and emasculation everyone else's problem. Look at what Narrator wearing the mask of Tyler Durden says, "You're not special. You're not unique. You're valueless." People like Andrew Tate say the same things damn near verbatim. Both the novella and the movie are dark parodies of toxic traits being pushed off as healthy masculinity. Like all dark parodies, they exaggerate to the nth degree.
In some ways, the actors who have portrayed the Joker in TV and movies all have given glimpses and sides of the Joker from the comics. Different paths to his many personalities he depicts in the comics, his behaviour, his chaotic nature, his mental state, his style of dress and his torment he struggles with. They all show parts of who the Joker is and how he behaves, so there isn't any definitive origin to him as a character or a villain. But seeing these actors bring him to life on screen is a spectacle to watch for sure.
Good choice, Alex. Saw this in theaters and was mesmerized. So glad Joaquin Phoenix won for this. The director Todd Phillips got three Oscar nominations, in addition to his previous for Borat. Highest grossing R rated movie of all time as well.
One nice and dark twist that jumped out at me, which a lot of people either don't seem to pick up on or just don't mention is the tie-ins from the beginning and end of the movie. One of the first things we learn is that his laughing is the result of a mental condition... which can sometimes be caused by a brain injury. The same kind of brain injury we learn later on (when he steals his mother's file from the asylum) can be the result of being tied to a radiator as a small child and mercilessly beaten. This implies that he wasn't born with his condition. Which also means that his mother is (in a sense) directly responsible. She had mental health problems of her own. At best she was neglectful and allowed her abusive boyfriend to beat him until he had brain damage. At worst, she joined in on beating him as a child. You saw how far gone she seemed through most of the movie, right? That means that after everything she was responsible for, he still had to grow up taking care of her, after her psychoses was treated in Arkham Asylum via a lobotomy. Pair that with everything he had to put up with as an adult throughout the film, and it's no wonder he had a psychotic break bad enough to turn him into The Joker.
I rewatched this for you! This is actually one of my favorite reactions you've done. I appreciate how well you articulated and humanized what happened in it. I can't wait to see what they do for the 2nd one! I avoid trailers because I like going in as blind as possible to films. So I only know who's leading it actor-wise. But let's freaking go!! lol
I discovered you a few weeks ago and I love so much your energy! I was beginning to be bored by youtubers who never got the emotions and reactions I felt when I watched the same movies, haha. Good job!
22:20 I had PTSD from my time in the Army, and for many years I forgot that I had been in the Army. I don't know how other people experience it, but for me it was like forgetting I had an old T-shirt boxed up in storage. I never noticed something was missing. Once in a while, something would remind me of it, then I'd quickly forget about it again.
this movie brought out a visceral unsettling feeling in me when i first watched it… i’ve dealt with some mental health issues (dissociation/derealization/depersonalization) in some extremely stressful times in my life that caused memory loss and brain fog. if i let my train of thought go for a second, i can sit and think about nothing for a long time. it’s not the same severity as what arthur is going through obviously but the thought of not being able to trust your own mind and knowing that the world will never cater to how your brain works leading to you having to work 10x as hard as anyone else to be accepted. it’s shitty, it’s scary, and i don’t blame arthur for what happened (if things actually happened like they did) and this movie did an amazing job at showing what mental health can do to an mfer and making you viscerally uncomfortable
Josquin Phoenix did a phenomenal job portraying Arthur Fleck. His mannerisms, forced laughter, and pain really shine through, allowing audiences to empathize with those suffering from mental illness. He deserved the Oscar.
Wow. They hinted that the second would be a musical. Ending it on a musical note. Or they just fit to it. Either way the second was good for the context of joker himself. There were characteristics in the cinematography that didnt really sit right with me but i enjoyed it.
I love horror and dark movies, still I was surprised how heavy this one was. Soo well done. Makes it that much better to see others experience it for the first time!
Yeah the mind will forcefully forget memories if they’re too traumatic to understand. This typically happens when something traumatic happens at a young age. I was abused by my cousin, I have absolutely 0 memory of it, and I don’t remember anything from being that age as well.
I’m very sorry that happened to you, but it’s pretty impressive the brain can do that, right? Same for me as well. Remember hardly anything prior to age 12. Just bits and pieces, really. I consider it a blessing, because the few things I do remember are fucking awful. Good job, brain!
The intro 😂😂😂 is the a re-upload? I could of sworn I seen your reaction to this film. Anywho, this movie is so fuckin phenomenal. So disturbing, cringe, dark, intense and thought provoking. One of my favorite movies ever!!
Yep! The editor left a comment and in the video Alex mentions this was released in December last year but got taken down, but they were finally able to re-upload it
Watched this in cinema and it was incredible, related to so much to it and just thought the way it was written, directed and acted was absolutely top tier.
I LOVE this movie..its so hard to watch because you really feel Arthurs pain and that he jeut needs someone to hug him and comfort him...but this doesn't happen. When the film ended in the cinema, most people were silent when they left the theater and you did really feel uneasy. Such a great great performance. Jack Nickolson, Heath Ledger and Joaquin Phoenox all did amazng jobs in portraying Joker's character individually
The DC Series Doom Patrol is an awesome series and Titans is also pretty good. Better, less known characters and Doom Patrol is so frickin weird in the best way possible.
1:48 Don't judge films based off their Rotten Tomatoes score Alex. Judge them based off what YOU think of them. RT's is a very sketchy review metric anyway.
In my own experience with my own repeated childhood trauma, if things are severe enough, memory of those events are lost to you in order to protect yourself from them.
What i love about this movie is that Auther/Joker is an unreliable narrator. For all we know nothing happened the way we saw it.
I love that the movie implies everything that just happened could have been a daydream he was having, while sitting in that asylum, but it also could be the perfect establishment of a Joker villian and his cult for future Batman movies, if they were willing to build a DC universe off of it (which they're not).
Like when he thought he knew his neighbour and walked into her apartment and she freaks out
My theory is that it was a fake story he told his psychiatrist in the asylum. His age is totally different from Bruce Wayne's. Bruce's father is suddenly the bad guy. And all the clocks in the movie are stopped at 11h00. I think he simply made up a victim story for himself to see if his psychiatrist would believe him, then laughed at her, and then eliminated her.
There is also the fact that every time you see a clock it reads the same “11:11”.
Network is a great movie and a lot of similarities too (very fishy)
"“If I’m going to have a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice!”
- Joker, "The Killing Joke"
"My point is... I went crazy, and I'm smart enough to admit it. Why can't you?? Do you even have any idea how many times we've come close to World War 3 over a flock of geese on a computer screen?! It's all a joke! Everything that anyone has ever stood for or fought for, it's monstrous! Why can't you see the funny side? Why aren't you laughing?!"😂
yup
he tries so hard to be a decent person and make people happy and all he gets is being fucked up and humiliated. But as soon as he went bad all are cheering to him. This is a portrayal of a deeply sick society.
@BOgbabababababa Sorry for your pain, grew up with two bad parents. How you doing these days?
@BOgbabababababa Look up the band Icon for hire. I recommend the song Happy Hurts. I hope this finds you well.
@BOgbabababababa Some of us understand more than you know.
Some fun facts: The scene where Arthur punches the clock off the wall, the dance in the bathroom after killing those guys and him getting into the refrigerator were improvised by Joaquin Phoenix.
The scene where he is shown in the alley kicking trash in anger before collapsing was actually Joaquin dislocating his knee.
Every clock you see in the movie reads “11:11”.
Arthur’s mother calls him “Happy” because of his laughing condition.
I think she calls him "Happy" to distract him and herself from the traumatic shit she did to him in the past. Pretending he is "such a happy child" all the time, despite deep down she knows very well whats wrong with him and the wrong she did to him.
@@RoxxSerm apparently her Arkham file reads that she was lobotomized, so she doesn't remember anything. She was already crazy before, but this explains why now she's simply incapable of taking care of herself at all
Another improvised part by Joaquin was when he crosses out forget with his own blood on the don't forget to smile sign.
Also when he is dancing with the gun in the living room and having the conversation with himself before shooting the wall was all improvised they knew he was going to shoot the gun at some point but the dance and conversation was all Joaquin.
Honestly I think he did an amazing job in this movie.
The clock thing is basically Aragorns broken toe. Everyone knows by now
Huh, 11:11? I was told once that wishes come true whenever the clock matches like this (02:02, 10:10,etc). But, that 11:11 is the either the time the wishes are granted, or the time that has the highest possibility of granting the wish.
27:50 his confidence is so high because he’s wearing a mask, in that moment he’s joker not Arthur.
I thought it was because he was off his meds, but I think you're right
it's cause he got nothing more to Iose which set him free
I think it's the opposite. Arthur was his mask, where he was constantly trying to fit in, and play by the rules of society, trying to behave like someone without a mental illness.
The shift in the movie happens when he accepts his true self, warts and all, which is the joker. From then on he finally stops masking, so he's confident in himself, in his own skin, and happier as a result.
so just as a note, Joker doesn't really have a 'set' origin. His origin is ambiguous and explored in different ways. The scenes in Dark Knight where he constantly changes how he got his scars is a bit of a nod to this. His origin is unknown.
This 'origin' of Joker is just one story to add to the many stories of how Joker became 'Joker', so in regards to 'does this line up with the comics' it doesn't need to. it's a take on a story that doesn't have a cement/solid origin in the comics.
He fell into a vat at Acme Chemicals. I'll die on this hill.
@@robertgibson1156 I don't hate it 🤣
It would be cool if these modern joker movies just explored different versions of his origins, and showed the different types of abuse and mental disorders that could lead Arthur into becoming the joker😊
@@garydorsey4243 I agree, I'd have preferred a different joker-take rather than a joker 2. I'm sure it'll be great, but would have loved to see them exploring different 'origins' I especially like the theory that Dark Knight Joker was ex-military.
The Killing Joke graphic novel is considered the best version of Joker's origin story.
I still remember when i first saw this with my grandma in the theaters, ill never forget her laugh when Arthur shot up the dudes on the train, she was so mad at them for being bullies 💀
Your grandma is based af
your Grandma sounds like a G
Same cause he didn’t deserve anything, I felt so bad for him the whole movie😭.
Based Granny! Those dudes were acting like trash. Joker took it out. And then he turned entirely insane and unfairly unhinged :P
@@lawlietriver8869 And the whole scenario proves what he said at the end right. If he hadn't had the gun, and they'd killed him, it would have never been a news story. It was only deemed worth reporting because they were rich guys.
The reason aurthurs mom had no idea, and didn’t see the abuse was because she was also lobotomized at Arkam. It’s a blink and you miss it in the files.
Also the bloody footprints at the end was that he killed the psychiatrist in the hospital
Holy shit, I’ve seen this movie countless times and I have never caught that!
What do you mean "also" lobotomized at Arkam, also implies someone else was too, who else was lobotomized there?
@@SaneInsaneSanity I meant it that on top of her other treatments and reasons to be there, she also got lobotomized too
Also, he has always had the condition of laughing without that matching his emotional state. Her memory would be a laughing boy even though another child in the same situation would be crying.
@@QuickdrawMcShawthe1stI think this is such an important and really painful point that’s overlooked. Years of him laughing when other people would be wailing is horrifying to think about, especially as the laughing likely escalated the abuse.
The reason why I like this movie is because it talks about how society fails us. Most people pick on those who they dont understand and not many people protects others. He is mentally struggling and he sees people and yet they let him down. Also you are unsure what is real and not. Just like how he does not understand. So many people in this world are struggling and fall through the cracks of the help they truly need. This sad world can truly make someone "mad".
32:30- “Is there gonna be a Joker 2?”
Yes, unfortunately. But let’s just pretend it doesn’t exist.
What’s joker 2?
@@isaacsstopmotionstudio6114 Right answer
Actually, I love that Joker 2 exists, because it created discourse enough to have "I fixed your movie" versions.... Kinda like WISH was panned enough to spawn a redo on RUclips as a LOL.... Labor Of Love.
Hate it as much as you like. I love it a lot, and it relate to me a lot 😆 I can't count how many times I broke into "muscial" in imagination during tough time at home/office or on the street just realized everything is back to normal a few minutes later and then "oh well... back to work". Although the movie is an extremely exaggeration of those moment, it exaggerated in a good way.
@@isaacsstopmotionstudio6114 let's just say they wrote this film with 200iq, and they wrote the second one with 20
Hey guys! Editor here, glad to finally put this video back up.
For those who don’t know this reaction was uploaded last December and got taken down, but we finally had the time to get it back up!
I will say my editing on this feels a little outdated but I hope you’ll enjoy it nevertheless!
Thanks guys!
it's aight dawg no worries
I see what you mean but, you always got that comedic timing bro!
You still working on those side projects / editors projects :) ?
That's why I thought that I already have seen Alex's reaction to this movie
Does Alex know "King Of Comedy" with Robert DeNiro?
Your sensitivity and empathy blow me away. I think a lot of people see you as the gooch man but dont realise how it's really a façade to hide how much you feel things. You're analysis of this film was so perfect it really got to me😭❤️
The amount of efforts and dedication jacquin phoenix put into this role was mind boggling. Definitely deserved the oscar
Its Joaquin* :D
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Agreed! For talent like that, I think you have to be born with it.
No one tell him about the sequel
Stop lying, there is no sequel...
@@edim108 true
Now there’s a sequel
@@user-milky_100 shhhhhh! don't let him find out
Yeah what sequel? Oh you mean that little parody skit that some dude made.
I remember seeing a documentary about a man who had the same medical condition Arthur has, and he explained that on his way back from his wedding, a car crashed into his car and both his wife and stepmother died on impact.
When the paramedics told him in the ambulance that both of them were dead, he laughed and couldn't stop.
This movie didn't need a sequel
9:50 “the worst part about having a mental illness is people expect you to behave as if you don’t”
Arthur's condition is called Pseudo Bulbar Affect (PBA), and it's also common with people who've had strokes.
Far more likely disorganized schizophrenia. that has all the same symptoms of PBA but with the addition of hallucinations.
Yes my father had it for a couple years he passed away in 20 October 2021
This movie is so heartbreaking an hits too close to home. There's way too many ppl who can't afford the mental health care they need and end up with ppl with an old school approach of treating the illness instead of the person 😢
As someone who struggles with mental health issues this movie hit me hard. When his psychiatrist said they don't care about you I cried in the theater.
As far as I know, Joker is the only comic book character whose performance earned its actor the Academy Award.
Twice.
One Best Supporting Oscar for Heath Ledger's turn in THE DARK KNIGHT (posthumously), and one Best Actor Oscar for Joaquin Phoenix's JOKER.
That's how fukkin' amazing this comic book character is.
As someone with depression,social anxiety and anxiety,ptsd and dealing with trauma when I was a child with parents and SA I was told to suppress it by my own paren s because they didn’t want anyone to know what that family member did. Not to mention at this time it happened I was bullied horribly and I had to move to three schools and it was absolutely the worst years of my life. That’s why I make sure my little sister is a success but not to pressure her. I don’t want her to go through what I did.
So sorry to hear that, keeping all of what you've stated in mind, does that mean that you really sympathize with the "Joker" in this movie, if so, how much? and at what point did you stop sympathizing and realize he is evil, if so?
@@SaneInsaneSanity hey kudos to you for asking that question, thats very humanising. I'm also interested to know konnie
Murder is wrong, period, but his talking points made sense. People with mental health disorders are looked down on and made fun of. Would people make fun of a diabetic or someone fighting cancer? Probably not.
I always see the hood in everyone that’s my worst trait but I don’t condone a lot of his actions unless they were self defense.
Joaquin has been very open about his mental health struggles which is probably why you see so much hurt and emotion in his eyes during the asylum scene
I hear method acting does this to actors anyway. Any time Christian Bale, Heath Ledger, or other method actors would do the extreme to get into the characters mindset, it would also put them sort of in a Funk of feeling that way. A big role like this, with all that it means and represents, I'm sure was difficult to take on for a prolonged period of time, especially to the extent that Joaquine immersed himself into that state of mind. If you look at Heath preparing for the same role, he literally isolated himself in a room for weeks to get the feeling of being totally alone. Isolation for anyone can have really detrimental and even permanent effects on the mind.
he went on a starvation diet for the role. he said it made him very agitated during filming (rightfully so)
What a fantastic reaction, i have a sister with a lot of mental health issues and you compassion and understanding is very heart warming. you are fastly becoming my favourite reactor.
I've seen a lot of Alex's reactions, I found him on Harry Potter. This reaction showed a whole different side of him than I was expecting
Yeah, it's frustrating how few people understand mental illness. I have experienced the kind of bullying Arthur gets through a lot of the movie and shared many of the same feelings. Being schizophrenic was difficult when I didn't really know, because people always treated me like I was nuts, but then when I got a diagnosis it was worse because I knew I was nuts - not quirky, or eccentric, but run of the mill crazy. Arthur, here, is a very real story of "there, but for the grace of god, go I".
That must be real tough homie, stay strong ✊
I think for many people, especially successful ones, they are uncomfortable acknowledging the fact that some peoples existence may be vastly different from their own. They feel it invalidates their successes, and their feelings of superiority, if they acknowledge that some people are afflicted by demons outside of their control. They prefer to think that everyone is in an equal race, and that they have won through their own determination and strength, not the whims of subatomic particles blipping in and out of existence.
Hey, we're watching you through camras installed your room. We're the FBI
@@ElChuntyCabraim sure if they’re diagnosed, ur lame comment wont affect them 💀
@@jess-tu2zh Nah fr it's so unoriginal 😭
When I first saw this movie, I forgot it was a DC movie. This movie could be a stand alone, it's perfect and beautiful and timeless.
In my opinion, this is a movie about mental health that they wanted to get out there and so they based it around the joker because he is a great character to show how the world treats and forgets about people who see the world different than others
So many people cast aside those that struggle with mental health disorders ( which includes drug and alcohol abuse), but if someone has any other physical disease oh they're fighting a disease. When mental health issues are involved people are told to get over it. When my dad was dying of cancer no one told him to get over it.
We didn't have a set origin story for Joker since he always seems to just make what he wants up, but this and this mental health disorder seems very plausible. I actually appreciate the way the film portrayed his development and desperation to just have some justice. I think the rioting and descend into chaos of Gotham came about really naturally. Him being somewhat of a martyr for the little people in Gotham just makes sense.
@@kelgirl99 he didn't all of a sudden become Joker, he gradually became it. Heath's Joker already was it
As someone that struggles with mental health issues I can relate to Joaquin's Joker unlike Heath's Joker
@@TexArizocan they were just two different takes on a joker. And that’s what’s so great about the Joker is that he doesn’t really have a backstory, so he can be portrayed in so many different ways.
The reason this film polarized critics and some viewers is the belief that it sympathized and even glorified a villain, when it's just an objective view of a man's tragic life
No, critics correctly said it just wasn't a good film.
My grandma actually has a similar condition. Whenever she gets nervous or anxious, she starts cackling insanely and cannot control it.
Coming from someone who's was diagnosed with PTSD from an abusive father, there are many points in time in my life I don't remember, so badly enough that I can barely remember a single moment during middle and high school. My mom would sometimes ask me about moments during that time when I was happy and I couldn't remember any of it. Her heart was broken when it all clicked.
As someone that blanks out trauma and extreme stress, yes, the memories of the time are just nonexistent. I “know” I functionally moved through whatever I’m blocking. But I created no memory of it to recall later. For example my parents got divorced and my mom was so horrible during the lead up to the divorce that I “ lost “ an entire year of time. My family calls it the year of the void. Because I was there obviously…but at the same time “I wasn’t there.”
By the end of this movie I legit forgot that Joaquin Phoenix didn't have all those mental disorders that Arthur had. Such an absolutely amazing performance man!
9:45 that's so true, i have bipolar disorder, panic attack's and been stressed more than half of my life but people here don't care or don't believe since you look normal
The laughing condition is a real thing. It's called the psuedobulbar affect. Sudden or uncontrollable fits of laughter or crying. It's actually considered a neurological effect and not a psychiatric effect, although it has similar symptoms to depression.
I’ve got that stalker energy today. Clicking like a crazy person as soon as I saw the title
Saaaammee
Even though he’s an unreliable narrator, Arthur’s arc into the Joker is awesome because the movie actually shows a villain arc instead of redeeming him like so many other movies about villains.
I always likes Batman comics because you see that the "good guys" aren't always that good and the "bad guys" might not always be that bad. Like in this, obviously the Joker is a bad dude, but you see how and why he snapped the way he did. And all these "good guys" in the show, like Bruce Wayne, who are considered heroes to the rich community, turns out to be horrible behind the scenes. The cops are all corrupt and so all these people who seek justice start to take it into their own hands, which ironically is exactly what Batman is doing as well. Gotham is literally a whole damn city of people who point at each other and scream wrongdoings while not understanding they're the biggest hypocrites in the world. Whatever side you're on, you're no better than your opponent.
My favorite part about his laugh when he shoots the guy at the end is that it seems like a real laugh
A *real* laugh
Not the ones he's been constantly having due to his condition for who can say how long
speaking from experience this movie goes from being just a good movie to being one of your all time faves if you have severe mental health issues
Merry Christmas to you too Alex 🎅
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I don't think it's his desire to be loved, more of a desire for human connection. Because of his condition, people think he's strange and scary, but all he wants is to connect with someone and feel it. Not feel so isolated and alone. Being loved may be part of it, but I think it's a little deeper than just that.
In the movie you hear and see news articles about super rats running around Gotham, and if you pay attention in the background of multiple scenes you can actually see giant rats running around
That's just Master Splinter. Leave him alone 😂
" why would they blip out fuck but they would show the dude getting shot in the head " meanwhile proceeds to censor it once then showing it twice
Seems extremely common in American shows
Heath Ledger is my favorite Joker for sure. I love how psycho he is. "You wanna know how I got these scars?"
Same here will always be my favorite
Joker 2 reveals how he got those scars.
My take: everything after he gets in the fridge is in his head. He's still in Arkham Asylum. That's why, after the crash, you see him talking to the counselor yet he doesn't have a scratch on him. And you can see the reference to Thomas Wayne being killed so it's not like weeks have passed. Also, if you really look, every scene that has a clock, they all show the same time.
Let's gooooo! I'm 53 and I still get smacked in the face with memories from my childhood that I suppressed. Smell, taste just some things come outta nowhere and it hits me like a ton of bricks
I wish I could get my grandparents to watch RUclips they say they are too old if they only know there's stuff for all ages. Although this channel I think is geared more towards kids my age
@DR.DisInfect my mom is 80 and she loves RUclips. Once I got her interested she stopped watching mainstream TV and is now all about it. Just got to find something they like and start playing it around them. Alex is awesome and reminds me of my nephew. I follow people of all ages, shades, backgrounds etc. I enjoy all types of people
As someone with CPTSD, I do have chunks of my life that I do not remember due to the trauma. It's just completely blank but I was aware of the abuse despite being a child at the time. I just don't remember most details thankfully. I have had a memory pop up in a dream after completely forgetting. Wasn't very pleasant.
Anyways, I really love this movie and I wish more people cared for those with mental health issues.
30:18 the reason why the didn’t censor Murray getting shot because it was unexpected
@9:43 This is such an important part of the video because I feel like you're speaking from the POV of someone who's never been diagnosed with a mental health issue. (I could totally be wrong there and presumptuous, and if that's the case, I am so very sorry.) But if that is the case, I REALLY appreciate hearing someone who doesn't struggle with their mental health display such empathy and really attempt to understand how awful it is to endure. I've watched many of your videos, and this one will be a favorite simply because of the kindness you showed. The character may be fictional, but the mental health issues he struggles with are not.
This movie can be seen as a nice connection to the Dark Knight joker as an expanded version of "do you wanna know how i got these scars?". Its the rantings of an insane man telling his story and you never know which parts are true.
And also in the way that, this joker at least, has an insane amount of scars, they're just on the inside. Which is exactly what's frustrating to him - that it's invisible to others, so they expect you to behave "normally"..
Nah The Dark Knight Trilogy is great, we don’t need to ruin it by trying to connect this pretentious wannabe King of Comedy to it.
@@breesybird9207 the point of my statement is that if you connect them in this way, it explains the bizarre "wannabe king of comedy" story, because it's an exaggeration and possible lie about joker and his origins. It's left in mystery as always. The man you see in this movie is a fabricated joke created by the Joker.
@@breesybird9207 They both deserved to win the Oscar. Phoenix had to play it the way he did. He couldn't have done what Ledger did because it would have been the same. But there are some people who think that there is no such thing as mental illness. Phoenix's take was of a very delusional man. They both did a great job.
You love the hero as a kid. You understand the villain when your older
I think that Rotten Tomatoes critic score compared to audience score just shows why you should never trust a professional critics review any more. They no longer look at things with a neutral bias, but more often than not with a personal hatred.
mental illness can be such a strange thing to experience and this film manages to capture the uneasy feelings and actions that occur because of it. i love the scene of him climbing in the fridge because it feels so real. there is no obvious reason for him to do it, but when mentally unstable you can sometimes just feel the urge to do something like that. to stand on the kitchen counter, sit on the roof, get in the fridge. same with him dancing. sometimes your brain just makes you act on the impulses to move your body in certain ways and to bask in the supposed insanity and to just FEEL and experience existing for a moment even if the method is unconventional. its a way to prove to yourself that you have free will and are still alive even if you dont feel fully present or lucid. this movie does such a good job of showing the weirdness that comes with mental unstability without making fun of it
Alex didn't even notice he killed the therapist at the end. :)
Or did he? The thing about this is, you never know what's real with Arthur or not. He could've killed her and is walking out of the ward, or he's sitting in his cell imagining the whole thing.
I've watched this movie a few times and haven't noticed that part
13:14 the music was there before the scene, they just put on the music and our beloved actor started moving to it, also btw:
in order to be skinny enough to play arthur he didn’t ate more than an apple for like a month. the producers offered him help to lose weight the healthy way but he was like “nah i got my own way”
got that all from the official bts video here on youtube
I applaud your sympathy toward mental health issues.... so many people just REALLY don't even want to try to understand. Like so many things, it's easier to bury your head in the sand.
**edit - for speileng 😂
I am an old "metal head" so it made sense to me. 🙃
metal health
25:35
I just had the big Mac now Papa wants a happy meal! 😂
That had me cackling 🤣
Christmas came early 😂😂😂
gave like 69 😎
If you pay attention when Arthur is painting his face and looks at the picture, the back is signed by Wayne confirming the relationship between him and arthurs mother
Man you promised Invincible on monday, so Where's Mark, Alex?
Maybe channel getting hacked might skew the release schedule?
He can post whatever he wants whenever he wants, and doesn't answer to you.
@@fusfauxpasIts an Omni-Man meme "Where's Mark, Adam"
@@TheKrensada He's not saying dude anything go check his community pos, he says invincible on monday boys day later
@@ImaJAYnation7 william
He's not a serial killer in one go.
He killed the first 2 in self-defense (not murd3r)
The 3rd... he hunted down and executed, so that was no longer self-defense.
Like Fight Club, Joker was a warning to society, but the wrong people took it as a playbook
Who took what as a playbook? Do you really think any of the stuff that shows up in this movie hasn't actively been happening in certain parts of the world for decades?
@@smileyhappyface5864 What OP is trying to say is that people take this movie as a playbook and justification to behave in toxic ways. The author of Fight Club wrote the novella in the 90's, at that time toxic traits being pushed off as healthy masculinity was just starting to catch hold in the mainstream narrative. Fight club is a dark parody of toxic traits being pushed off as healthy masculinity and some people completely missed the point.
In Joker, Arthur is someone with serious emotional and psychological problems. All around him people are being shitty and violent, sometimes to him. He uses that as an excuse to become shitty and violent. When the 3 guys went to beat him up on the subway, and he shot and killed 2 of them, if he had simply stayed in the car and waited for the police, he could've probably could've gotten out of it. But he chased the third guy down and shot him 3 times in the back. By chasing down the third guy who was running away and no longer a threat to him, and shooting him in the back, that was him stepping across the line to becoming someone who is shitty and violent and destructive. He's given opportunities throughout the movie to potentially stop and face-up to what he's done. Instead he chooses to respond to everyone around him who are being shitty and violent and destructive by becoming shitty and violent and destructive, and reveling in it...and some people completely missed the point.
@@oldeskul Fight Club was about corporate culture< where masculinity there in any way?
@@shrekkek9396 Narrator(yes, he's called Narrator in the movie credits) is feeling unhappy and a bit emasculated. Those are entirely him problems. Does he go talk to a therapist and try to work out to the root of the problems? Does he take the buds out to a bar, have a few brews and talk his feelings out? No. He forms illegal, underground fighting rings and domestic terror cells, and makes his feelings of unhappiness and emasculation everyone else's problem.
Look at what Narrator wearing the mask of Tyler Durden says, "You're not special. You're not unique. You're valueless." People like Andrew Tate say the same things damn near verbatim.
Both the novella and the movie are dark parodies of toxic traits being pushed off as healthy masculinity. Like all dark parodies, they exaggerate to the nth degree.
Grow up. They're just movies. People aren't wrong for enjoying them in a way that you don't like
In some ways, the actors who have portrayed the Joker in TV and movies all have given glimpses and sides of the Joker from the comics. Different paths to his many personalities he depicts in the comics, his behaviour, his chaotic nature, his mental state, his style of dress and his torment he struggles with. They all show parts of who the Joker is and how he behaves, so there isn't any definitive origin to him as a character or a villain. But seeing these actors bring him to life on screen is a spectacle to watch for sure.
Good choice, Alex. Saw this in theaters and was mesmerized. So glad Joaquin Phoenix won for this. The director Todd Phillips got three Oscar nominations, in addition to his previous for Borat. Highest grossing R rated movie of all time as well.
One nice and dark twist that jumped out at me, which a lot of people either don't seem to pick up on or just don't mention is the tie-ins from the beginning and end of the movie. One of the first things we learn is that his laughing is the result of a mental condition... which can sometimes be caused by a brain injury. The same kind of brain injury we learn later on (when he steals his mother's file from the asylum) can be the result of being tied to a radiator as a small child and mercilessly beaten. This implies that he wasn't born with his condition. Which also means that his mother is (in a sense) directly responsible. She had mental health problems of her own. At best she was neglectful and allowed her abusive boyfriend to beat him until he had brain damage. At worst, she joined in on beating him as a child. You saw how far gone she seemed through most of the movie, right? That means that after everything she was responsible for, he still had to grow up taking care of her, after her psychoses was treated in Arkham Asylum via a lobotomy. Pair that with everything he had to put up with as an adult throughout the film, and it's no wonder he had a psychotic break bad enough to turn him into The Joker.
@12:45 the Balenciaga comment had me falling to the floor
32:29 “Is there going to be a Joker 2?” 😬
Be careful what you wish for.
I rewatched this for you! This is actually one of my favorite reactions you've done. I appreciate how well you articulated and humanized what happened in it. I can't wait to see what they do for the 2nd one! I avoid trailers because I like going in as blind as possible to films. So I only know who's leading it actor-wise. But let's freaking go!! lol
I watched this in cinema with a group of mental health nurses as a mental health patient, and let me tell you it made for one hell of conversation!
I discovered you a few weeks ago and I love so much your energy! I was beginning to be bored by youtubers who never got the emotions and reactions I felt when I watched the same movies, haha.
Good job!
I’ve never heard anyone dislike this movie
To get yourself ready to watch the sequel, sit down on your toilet, take a massive shit and then watch the shit for 2 hours and 15 minutes.
There, in fact, will be a Joker 2 with Lady Gaga coming out in theaters on October 10, 2024
22:20 I had PTSD from my time in the Army, and for many years I forgot that I had been in the Army.
I don't know how other people experience it, but for me it was like forgetting I had an old T-shirt boxed up in storage. I never noticed something was missing. Once in a while, something would remind me of it, then I'd quickly forget about it again.
Right on! Time for the Insidious youtube reaction lol
this movie brought out a visceral unsettling feeling in me when i first watched it… i’ve dealt with some mental health issues (dissociation/derealization/depersonalization) in some extremely stressful times in my life that caused memory loss and brain fog. if i let my train of thought go for a second, i can sit and think about nothing for a long time. it’s not the same severity as what arthur is going through obviously but the thought of not being able to trust your own mind and knowing that the world will never cater to how your brain works leading to you having to work 10x as hard as anyone else to be accepted. it’s shitty, it’s scary, and i don’t blame arthur for what happened (if things actually happened like they did) and this movie did an amazing job at showing what mental health can do to an mfer and making you viscerally uncomfortable
Im actually very excited to see your reaction to this film
me too
Josquin Phoenix did a phenomenal job portraying Arthur Fleck. His mannerisms, forced laughter, and pain really shine through, allowing audiences to empathize with those suffering from mental illness. He deserved the Oscar.
Wow. They hinted that the second would be a musical. Ending it on a musical note. Or they just fit to it. Either way the second was good for the context of joker himself. There were characteristics in the cinematography that didnt really sit right with me but i enjoyed it.
I love horror and dark movies, still I was surprised how heavy this one was. Soo well done. Makes it that much better to see others experience it for the first time!
Yeah the mind will forcefully forget memories if they’re too traumatic to understand. This typically happens when something traumatic happens at a young age. I was abused by my cousin, I have absolutely 0 memory of it, and I don’t remember anything from being that age as well.
I’m very sorry that happened to you, but it’s pretty impressive the brain can do that, right? Same for me as well. Remember hardly anything prior to age 12. Just bits and pieces, really. I consider it a blessing, because the few things I do remember are fucking awful. Good job, brain!
Or the brain can create another personality. Wonder what causes another personality over forgetting the experience
Finally! I sat in absolute awe when this movie ended the first time I saw it. A fantastic movie !!!!!
Great reaction!!!
The intro 😂😂😂 is the a re-upload? I could of sworn I seen your reaction to this film. Anywho, this movie is so fuckin phenomenal. So disturbing, cringe, dark, intense and thought provoking. One of my favorite movies ever!!
Yep! The editor left a comment and in the video Alex mentions this was released in December last year but got taken down, but they were finally able to re-upload it
@@moonwalker8391 Figured something like that. Appreciate you
@ezelldaniels6064 No problem
Watched this in cinema and it was incredible, related to so much to it and just thought the way it was written, directed and acted was absolutely top tier.
Too bad they never made another Joker movie
I LOVE this movie..its so hard to watch because you really feel Arthurs pain and that he jeut needs someone to hug him and comfort him...but this doesn't happen. When the film ended in the cinema, most people were silent when they left the theater and you did really feel uneasy. Such a great great performance. Jack Nickolson, Heath Ledger and Joaquin Phoenox all did amazng jobs in portraying Joker's character individually
Only legends know this is a reupload
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More like sycophants hahaha
Or the comment at top where the editor explains it is and why it is
Yeah i thought the title looked familiar in the notification
I love that you’re finally checking out this movie. Keep up the amazing work man.
i wanna see Alex Hefner portraying Coraline's father
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20:25 I thought he meant the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree with Thomas Wayne and Bruce Wayne punching people 😂
The DC Series Doom Patrol is an awesome series and Titans is also pretty good. Better, less known characters and Doom Patrol is so frickin weird in the best way possible.
Doom Patrol is HIGHKY underrated. Absolutely brilliant series
Titans sucks ass
I knew as soon as I saw the upload that it would be good. Didn't disappoint in the slightest. "All it takes is one bad day" - Joker "The Killing Joke"
"Guys, guess what time it is.." *clicks ahead to find the start, sees Alex in a santa hat... immediately clicks back to find out what I missed*
W reaction man, this is a great movie
1:48 Don't judge films based off their Rotten Tomatoes score Alex. Judge them based off what YOU think of them. RT's is a very sketchy review metric anyway.
Facts
I love how many problems you can fix with “smoke fat blunts”
You should really check out Doom Patrol. It's my favorite DC adaptation. It's so frickin weird in the best way.
"You cant just go around sticking your fingers in kids mouths" is a great line
Is there a Joker 2?
No there isnt. If someone else tells you otherwise, theyre trying to troll you.
Beat me to it lol
In my own experience with my own repeated childhood trauma, if things are severe enough, memory of those events are lost to you in order to protect yourself from them.
Mr. Goochman is already insane, he only needs one bad day to be the joker