Does anyone think Tom Aspinall beats Jon Jones?
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Chael Sonnen talks Tom Aspinall vs Jon Jones on this episode of Beyond the Fight
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Let's say. Now that enough fans wants to see the fight and it is going to happen.
"Fair coin" is the contingency of "gambler's fallacy".
I really don't think John Jones should even be in Heavy Weight, it was a massive mistake by him to move up.
Even Dana thinks Tom's gonna roll him up n smoke a fat en
Chael at least 80% of people think Tom is gunna win
^no matter who you think wins. The comments prove my point most are picking Tom
80% of Guru casuals do. Everyone else realizes power can be neutralized. See Ngannou trying to box
@@chiquita683but it’s not a boxing match it’s an mma fight and power isn’t the only reason people see Tom winning
Idk about 80p but certainly lots of fans
@@chiquita683lol most normal people don’t want losers like guru or Ariel or anyone of those dweebs
Tom still beats Jones I think
@@chiquita683 not sure how ngannou boxing has any relevance here 😂😂 different sport
“Do we have imperial evidence that he could beat him?”
I love that Chael powers through his CTE to deliver this content, thanks dude
'i find your lack of faith disturbing'😜
"imperial" lol
lol, Chael acts as if Tom isn't the favorite going into a hypothetical fight with Jon "I just got boned" Jones. He's a -150 favorite. Tell me when the last time the fans believed that Jon would lose and the oddsmakers. Casuals believed that Gane could beat him, and then real fans knew that Gane has zero grappling, the oddsmakers had gane a favorite for a week, then came back to reality and made jon a -300 favorite. This is unprecedented. Just Jon being the underdog with the oddsmakers and the hardcore fans should be enough to motivate Jonny, but it won't be because he knows just exactly how dangerous Tom is. Tom isn't a point fighter like Gane.. When you get finished, it will be fast, brutal and you will take a lot of brain damage. What he did to sergei pavlovich... We honestly don't know if Sergei will ever recover. He just got dominated by Volkov... Volkov is great... But before the Tom fight, did anyone honestly think Volkov would dominate him?
It’s imperially proven that Chael DOES NOT have CTE!
I loved hearing him talk about his friend who had his “ear to the grindstone”.
Seeing that Jon was the only man to get close to beating Chael, I never bet against him in the octagon.
Best answer.
Fair enough
I had to go back and watch it. Chael dominated wasn't even close
He would never let him get close, don't spread misinformation.
Close is a stretch. He did the best out of them all though.
Tom would finish Jon early in round one, in the hypothetical alternate reality where Jon accepts the fight.
Sadly
We all love Tom Aspinall but does he have a gas tank in a what-if scenario. If it goes longer then one round
@@kev30631we dont have much evidence which isnt a bad thing but he did against arlovski
@@Barker-ws5knremember how differently people looked at Khamzat before the Gilbert Burns and Usman fights…. Tom looks great but he has 18 total minutes of ring time and has left the first round once…. Having jon be your first test is suicide. Khamzat is a better fighter for those wars but we all learned a lot about him
true
Most people think tom beats jones
No they don't
@@Dru2037yes they do.
@@Dru2037 John got pieced up by Reyes, imagine what Tom would do to him
@@Dru2037 yes they do, And if you had any brains so would you.
Lol all the people who think tom cant beat jon are casuals. Anything can happen in a fight like this.
It doesn't matter what anybody thinks. What matters is that this fight needs to happen, it would be an injustice to the sport if it did not. The two greatest heavy weights in the world, in an unbelievable battle.
Bro aspinal doesn't even have a legacy yet lmao
@@CuteCowshis heavyweight legacy is 10x what Jones' is 🤷♂️
@@CuteCows how many HWs johnny beat again?
@CuteCows is it about legacy or is it abou Tom being the interm champion whos supposed to be fighting jon?
Shut up
I was certain that I believed Tom WOULD win. Thank you uncle chael for revealing to me that I actually believe that he only COULD. Your guidance is a shining light in this dark blurry world. 👏🏼🙌🤩
Jones wins
LOL! Uncle Chael knows us better than we know ourselves. 🤣
@@lawrencecraine3495 ye jones who in the last 5 years has lost to reyes then beat a french kickboxer in a grappling match, it aint 2013 anymore bud
Ikr? Thanks for clearing MY OWN OPINION up for me Chael.
haha
Tom’s fast at heavyweight. As fast as lightweights, people say. Jon looks slow as heck out there on the feet.
Tom has power. He knocks top 5 contenders out in one punch. Jon has never dropped anyone with a punch ever.
Tom has great wrestling and submits heavyweights fast. Jon is also good at grappling. So this cancels out.
Tom knocks him out in round 1
Bro we seen Jon fight for like a minute on the feet b4 he took cereal down 🤦🏽♂️ 😂
Jon has victories over one of the best wrestlers in DC.....victories over quick ppl like machida.......and victories over stronger opponents than Tom.....all Tom has on jj is quickness that comes with youth...however jj moves sluggish as hw
@@morphine2002none of Jon’s opponents have been stronger than Tom. Also machida is a middleweight
@@CanadianBoardCrewIf strength was all you needed to be a UFC champion than Brock Lesnar would have never lost... I swear these MMA fans sound like comic book reading children😂😂😂
jon's never been knocked out and hes the bigger guy
Chaels' reverse psychology is too much. I know Tom will win, and then Chael said I don't really believe that 😂😂 Tom smokes him 👊
I believe that if Tom Aspinall doesn't get Jon Jones out of there in his usual time fame, then it's going to be a long night for both of them.
As chael said a war of attriction
@@kev30631jones is slow af now and in horrible shape, prime jones would be a war but not jon now
@@s66s46 Then wouldn't you say that tom Aspinall is what a young Jon Jones was to light heavy weight .
A fresh new evolved prototype. Until the next model boots him out.
Now that Cheal said Jon will win, we know 100% that he’ll lose
Tom can maybe land a big shot... but if Jon gets a hold of anyone, they're screwed...
It aint 2013 anymore
Bruh Jon just choked out gane in a minute 😂
💯
@@jevonlawrence2305 bruh Tom just kod Curtis in a minute.......gane has absolutely 0 grappling skills
@@jevonlawrence2305 just i think you mean over a year ago
You're right, it's 2024. I just checked.
Tom would destroy Jon I think that
No u dont
At what? Drinking?
If tom doesn't get the early finish, prepare yourself to be surprised.
Not at hard drugs
I also think I can be president doesn’t mean it will happen lol
Chael's at his best when he tells you what you are thinking is not what you are thinking and you are actually thinking what Chael tells you are thinking.
I'm thinking Dana is protecting Jon, allowing 2 middle-aged aged has-beens to hold up the division while the interum champ is going on a tear.
Super Tommy Aspinall all day 👊
💯
Jon wont need to tap if he’s unconscious on the ground 😂😂
but he won't be unconscious
You really think a guy that’s never been hurt in 28 fights is gonna be unconscious in round 1? He’s never once been stumbled or even in slight trouble. Never.
Tom can’t out wrestle John Jones yall meat riding
Chael breaking down the imperial evidence for us
Few things are funnier than a dumb guy, trying to be a smart guy. 🤣
The only way Jones makes it out of the first, is if he can get his famous eye pokes in.
If Jon wins yall gonna find some next guy to beat Jon like yall did 28 times before.
Exactly.
Exactly, same bs all the time 💯💯
Yes, that is what they are all missing! They literally said the same about all the other fighters as well.
@@harezothman31 not as much Jon because hes got 28-0 and has been fighting longer than the rest, they want his streak shattered.
Thats how it works, whereas every one knows Stipe loses so there's no interest
Tom trying to get inside Jones reach would be a serious challenge. I think Tom would also struggle trying to Jones to the mat. Those two struggles combined would lead me to predict Jones would get the win.
John would not do well against that kind of blitz.
@@rustwins4442really? Gane did the same exact blitz just before he was taken down and choked to death…
Here's the thing. Jones never been taken down hardly, his hardest fight was Gustfassen( prob spelled that wrong) Jones biggest enemy is his ego. If Tom took down Jones or started hitting him harder then he ever has, I think Jones would be shocked, wouldn't know what to do and get beat. Tom trains with the best, Tom trains with 5 big guys for 1 round each. He works out with Eddie Hall and one of the strongest men ever said Tom was very strong, especially since he doesn't lift. Yea I 100% FEEL Tom would win. I think not only does he win, he gives Jones his first finish.
Yea and that will be tom aspinall biggest thing he will accomplish in his career cause no man beaten jones and tom aspinall will be the greatest off all time then tom will bring every fighter attention and every fighter will call out tom aspinall without tom calling out any fighter 😂 and tom aspinall will be considered as the greatest off all time since he beaten a man that no ever fighter ever accomplished in their career 😂🎉 so yea tom aspinall winning this fight
The fact that you believe someone with a 97% takedown defense percentage is getting taken down by tom aslinall when dc couldnt just shows that aspinall fans have no idea how either guy fights
Eddie hall is good to train for mma. Wow. 😂
@@tylero238Gustafson took him down. Are you implying Gustafson is a better wrestler than DC?
@@Jericho642 nah im just realizing who’s a idiot and who isnt
Jon Is the GOAT 🐐
Jon is different, its been years all the jon haters waiting to see him loose.
Tom is good but not Jon good!
Jon made Francis leave UFC!
Jon made DC cry
Jon fight IQ, skill, strength and experience is JON LEVEL
that rationale of the younger and bigger guy according to history wins doesn’t apply to jon jones 😂
Can I ask you when has jones fought a younger and bigger guy? He moved up to heavyweight and fought a dude the literal exact same size and age as him in LHW he fought guys like machida and chael who are literal middleweights the biggest guys he ever fought were gustaffson and reyes who both beat him lol
@@balmorrablue3130 ciryl Gane is 3 years younger than Jon jones and was active compared to Jon not being active for 3 years prior to the fight and he’s pretty big. That being said even if Tom is younger by 6 years to Jon he’s not considerably bigger they’re both around 270 walking weight. That’s all we can go by because heavyweight division is the one division u don’t have to make a specific weight in as long as u don’t go over 265. But from a competitive standpoint he fought Anthony smith and Dominick Reyes who are younger also by 3 years. My point being Jon jones is a very dominant fighter that he’s an exception like the bigger and younger guys typically win wouldn’t apply to him. I’m almost convinced if Drake bet money on him with the curse he gives athletes he bets on Jon jones still wouldn’t lose.
@@balmorrablue3130 he beat gustafson I’d argue he lost to Dominick but even then he cleared Anthony smith who was younger as I pointed out. I don’t see Tom beating Jon jones
@@kermitsippintea7433 smith not only sucks but is literally 1 year younger to be considered “younger” than someone in combat sports you need to be like 4-5 years a 34 year old jones fighting a 31 year old there’s or a 33 year old smith is not “younger or bigger” jones has to my knowledge never faced anyone bigger than him or younger as champ
@@kermitsippintea7433 smith not only sucks but is literally 1 year younger to be considered “younger” than someone in combat sports you need to be like 4-5 years a 34 year old jones fighting a 31 year old there’s or a 33 year old smith is not “younger or bigger” jones has to my knowledge never faced anyone bigger than him or younger as champ
"Imperial evidence" 🤣
Mike Tyson also doesn't wear smaller MMA gloves where it's easier to ko people. That doesn't mean Tom hits harder then Tyson.
According to Naganou, Tyson should be able to knock out any MMA fighter with just half his power, wearing 4-ounce gloves. Francis has trained with Tyson, so he should know.
Jones toe bone poking out is nuts to your typical person, but Tom tore his medial collateral ligament, his meniscus and suffered anterior cruciate ligament damage. Slightly different levels Chael in all due respect 😂
Jon tore his pec in training and instantly stopped training! He is human, an extreme human but sorry guys some injuries would stop Jon.
@@NoddyClarkey Ikr wasn't the recovery supposed to be like a year at the latest..
How long has it been??
I can't even remember..
This is an awful take even my Chanel’s standard. Most fans and the bookies believe Tom will probably win. Chael says Jon has done nothing to suggest that Jon can be knocked out. Firstly that doesn’t mean anything because neither had Volk before he got stopped twice. Secondly what has Aspinall done to suggest he couldn’t just beat Jon up for 5 rounds? It’s not like we’ve ever seen him tired, just like we’ve never seen Jon seriously hurt
So what's your point. You 🤡 are terrible and have no respect for legends. It's a new bum every week. First Jones can't be that other hard-hitting guy. Can't even remember his name. Jon was running from him, right. Then this Tom dude smokes him, and now he's the guy lol. Now Jon is running from him. It's a new guy every 4 months 😂. Let these guys stand the test if time before we start to cement these one trick pony.
I think it's 50/50 at this point. Tom seems to pose the biggest threat to Jones right now
Few things here.
You can't really argue with Chael's stance on we've seen Jon's toughness (albeit best part of a decade ago) but we haven't seen Tom's yet. However, there is no doubt that Tom has a resilience and mentality to come through.
All the historic evidence points towards Jon's experience and know how that may overwhelm Tom. As a Brit and a fan of Tom it is worth a thought and leads me to a conclusion:
There is absolutely no doubt in my mind, Aspinall wins any way that he wants to.
Tom beats Jon
nope
@@rahr07 I agree. I don't what these guys are smoking.
Yep
Lol
“Tom beats Jon”
….’s meat.
We have all the imperial evidence we need to know Tom mogs Jones in the cage
It’s empirical lmao go back to school
Chael blessing us with the imperial knowledge
Happy someone else caught that
Tom is a natural heavyweight but as fast as a middleweight. Jones is a lightweight that had one easy fight at heavyweight.
Jon's heart isn't in it anymore, Tom is moving up.
That's what I think. 👍🏻
Nobody cares what casuals think 😅
@@uncleb7821Jones fans are the casuals 😂
Tom has the power to do it but I just don’t see jones being KO’ed
Jon has the IQ and experience to pick Tom apart with beating 8 ex world champions and 13 title defences
Tom seems like he is Go before the word Go. How does Jones deal with that kind of relentless pressure. That's what I observed about Tom. He seems to be in a hurry to get out of there and back to the dressing room.
It’s a terrible match up for jones off Tom puts it on him early I can see jones biting on the feints and getting knocked out of the first round
@@SawShotznah jones destroys his career with obliques and eye pokes
I'm a tom fan, but Jones is Jones bro he's the hype killer and he's been killing hype and beating legends for years. There ain't no way I'm putting money against Jones at all
Someone who actually knows their shit, all these new fans dick riding Tom haven’t even done their research on why Jon Jones is the GOAT of the UFC even Dana say’s it and you can tell he personally doesn’t really like Jon but gives him his credit for which he earned
I'm with you. Every single time Jon fights, there is always this conversation. Every time , he came out victorious. Jon Jones is literally the greatest MMA fighter ever, and it's not even close.
This type of post is like 3 years old, IT'S NO LONGER THIS WAY ANYMORE. Time to wake up
This conversation started after Jones started showing little effort to win fights, specially in the Ovince Saint Preux fight. What I think is: fighters sometimes can get bored of winning; it can seem weird at first but it can happen, to the point that they gradually start to lose interest in putting effort in it and wanting to just get the job done with the least effort possible. It may have happened to Anderson and Fedor, but the only difference is that Jones was the only one who managed to keep on track to at least win by points.
@@indianna.777 Jones didn't fight to 45 years old like Fedor, nor did he fight as many champions like fedor had to, 8-9 former champs either FROM ufc or pride, fedor beat. Many in their prime or almost in their prime, except a few occasions like rampage. etc
Aspinall is the favourite. For good reason, he's the best heavyweight in the world elite grappler, dynamite puncher, cleared out the division beating everyone in the top 5 except gane that's turned down a fight with him twice and has the shortest average fight time in UFC history. Jones is an inactive LHW that's had 1 fight at HW, that he only took because ngannou left the promotion.
He's had one fight in the past 4 years against a man with no grappling skills, Aspinall has fought 9 times in that space of time including completely blowing his knee out and having surgery and a year off. Of those fights 8 finishes, 7 in the first round and his last three fights combined fight time is 3:22. It's not hard to see why people are picking him.
Jon is unproven at Heavyweight. In fact, he was only winning at LH by narrow margins. Tom will destroy him.
Heavyweight champ is unproven at heavyweight. Hello, casual.
@@uncleb7821 One fight: against Gane does not make Jones tried and tested. There are 3 heavyweight who would beat Jones. He has the Dana White privilege. Have a good day and study more.
Tom wins entirely on the striking alone. Jon can stand and bang for sure but he’s not fast like Tom is and that’s going to be a massive problem for Jon. Youth is no longer on his side in a fight against Tom and that will without shadow of a doubt be the biggest contributor to Jon losing if he does fight Tom and lose. Jon’s advantage comes from grappling, but he’s going to have to get close to Tom for that even take place and everyone who does get close to Tom like that gets KO’d in round one.
Also remember unlike Gane Tom is a elite grappler and a BJJ black belt
@@andrewrai5752 exactly so it completely nullifies the edge that Jon even brings to the table. I think he gets absolutely smashed if he fights Tom unless he fights an absolutely perfect fight and makes literally 0 mistakes.
Noone's foolish enough to grapple Tom Unless they're cutting to make 265 the strength difference is too much.
I guess Chael forgot when Ngannou was putting people into orbit with one punch
He wasnt doing it with the furst punch he threw which was chael’s point
I guess ppl forgot when Francis went up against fighters with good defensive tactics his stand up was useless. Power means nothing when you can’t hit someone, look at what just happened to Sergei vs Volkov in a 5 round stand up fight.
@@zombieepx1933 Ngannou KO Curtis twice, once through a blocked punch by Curtis.
@@osalazar34 Curtis doesn’t have good defense. I’m talking about fighters with iq like Cyril gane. Fighters with a good defensive iq. Curtis just throws heavy and gets caught time and time again.
Yes Chael I do think that
RIP Anthony Rumble Johnson, I bring this legend up because he had speed like a welter weight( at 205) and punched like a heavyweight. Look what DC did to Rumble. I see a similar fight between Tom and Jon. What happens to Tom when his opponent doesn't fall down? What happens when Jon kicks his knees over and over? Cuts his head wide open? Drops elbows for 3 minutes on top of Tom? Tom's overall fight time in the UFC something like 15 minutes in nine fights. How many hours is Jon Jones been in the octagon five? I'm guessing I don't really know. Nobody walks through Jon Jones, nobody. Tito tapped. 🍻🇺🇲
How many of those fights were against a 260lb Heavyweight that's a new generation fighter? I'm not sure we can compare Lyoto , Dominic Reyes or Anthony Smith to Tom , 14 1st round finishes at Heavyweight, Aspinall.
Rumble and Tom’s skillsets aren’t comparable. Rumble probably hit harder even though he was a LHW, he was just pure raw power. Tom is powerful too but also has ridiculous speed, timing and an ability to find the chin that rumble didn’t have. Tom has also shown himself to be a much stronger grappler than Rumble although I admit that has been mostly grappling offence not defense.
Real bro, its hard to see Aspinall winning, but its possible.
Aspinall is a better striker at HW, but Jon has good defense and a damn good chin. Jon won't strike with him so the fight will be mostly wrestling, and even though Aspinall also has solid wrestling and tdd, Jones is far more skilled when it comes to ground game. It won't be as easy as Gane, but ultimately Jon will take him down. One thing I noticed about Aspinall is that early into the fight, he usually takes a step back and then moves his upperbody far back to avoid strikes and when he does that he stops his footwork and his legs are right there to shoot for. Jones can maybe copy his old rival DC here : throw a jab, feint an overhand right and go for the legs.
But, its MMA. Anything can happen, I may be wrong, I may be right.
And also lets not forget Stipe, people are sleeping on him more.
Jon is older, he’s only fought once at heavyweight, he has not been a very active fighter, he’s coming off a significant injury, and he won the belt by beating a pretty lackluster opponent who wasn’t the champion. I’d say the deck is stacked against him. There are no absolutes, but my pick is Tom.
Aspinwall via buggy choke
hahahwah this big disrespect for jones grappling.
Apparently the internet believes he will and people who don't think so dont say anything because they hope jon will see the flood of comments and tweets and feel he has no choice but to fight Tom
Jon beats Aspinall early 3rd round
I am in no doubt denying Tom's experience or strength, but I AM also and know the same about Jones and I believe it would be a WAR
@iMMACASUAL_ you are seriously on drugs lol
This is glazing to the highest degree, you’re wrong Chael, yes we have seen Jon Jones wobble as he has been out struck before, yes we have Jon Jones taken off his feet as he has been picked up and taken down, no we have not seen Jon Jones submit to anything yet, but no one is unbeatable, Jon Jones at Heavyweight is not the same man as he was, Jon Jones was The perfect Light Heavyweight because he was perfectly built and tough for that division, now he is slow and he is not as fit, He didn’t even take the number one ranked Heavyweight at the time plus Ciryl Gane didn’t even earn the belt that was given to him, Even Francis Ngannou out wrestled Ciryl, Tom Aspinall seems to be a good all round fighter who is a more natural and powerful Heavyweight, Stop glazing Jon Jones just because he beat you
Anyone who thinks Jones doesn’t get finished in less than 5 mins by Tom is beyond biased and deluded
You probably said the same about Sergei and Cyril
U are, Jones will smoke Aspinall EASY
this type of comment doesnt want any debate you choose a side and try to make the other side look like idiotss bro why do you think like this at least be open-minded
All of these Tom lovers baffle me! Has any one of you ever watched a Jon Jones fight? Tom may have a lot of power but have you ever seen Jon get hit😮. Go back and watch his fights!! Tom won't touch him!!!
The fact that anyone thinks any professional fighter is "afraid" to fight anyone is wild. Let alone someone like JJ
Not afraid to fight or get hurt he's afraid to lose
@stonish9328 fair point. But I don't that's it either. JBJ has 1, maybe 2 fights left. I think it's more about legacy. Fighting stipe would be goat vs goat. Aspinall is more what the fans want to see, but not really a huge benefit for jones or his legacy. It's a business at the end of the day.
Tom slept Sergei, who had more KOs in 6 matches, in a row, in 6 minutes, than Jon has had in his entire UFC career, in 69 seconds & made it look easy.
100% finish rate - deal with it.
Jon is not going to lose. Won't happen. Could happen, but it won't.
Thank you
😂😂😂😂😂
Your boy jones is getting smoked
He lost to -Uncle- *_Lord_* Chael!
Won't happen because he will duck Tom
@@amg863 my statement is still true
The amount of disrespect Jon gets is amazing. People are so easily fooled by highlights.
Probably the same clowns who said Gane was gonna smoke Jon LMAOO.
not even comparable lmfao gane was a kickboxer tailor made for jon to win in 30 seconds, but go off i guess
Not remotely the same. Tom is very well rounded.
@@strawhatJCyril Gane literally let jon win lmao
Before the Gane fight people were doubting jones takedown ability due to his prior fights with Reyes and Thiago. These clowns will always come up with excuses and do revisionist history.
@@strawhatJ the masses were not saying he’s tailor made for Jon to beat. I remember all the convos. Yea I’ll go off I guess.
I’ve been saying since the first time I saw Tom Espinal in the UFC that he would beat Jones. He moves like a middleweight, black belt and jujutsu unbelievable power the exact recipe to beat John Jones.
Jon jones is the hype slayer . They bring someone every year and build them up as if they got a chance
Jon's fought absolute bums in comparison to Aspinall.
That's the most regarded take I've ever heard. @@jakepittman3068
@@jakepittman3068 lmao who has Aspinall fought hahaah the top 15 in the UFC HW division is admittedly weak and even Dana acknowledged it.
@@CuteCows Name me one fighter Jon's fought who Aspinall wouldn't absolutely smoke. I'll wait.
@@jakepittman3068 Daniel Cormier .. and you can't with a straight face tell me otherwise
Dude Tom Aspinal has lost to Stuart Austin and Łukasz Parobiec... Like what kind of blind fanboyism is going on here.
100% of people thing Tom beats Jon.
Actually watch Jon’s striking at the start of his only fight in the past 4 years.. Tom finishes Jon so fast. He way too big and powerful.
lol Tom should never be mentioned in the same sentence with Jon unless he wins for the next 10 years every fight
Jon at heavyweight is not the same guy. Tom is at his natural weight and Jon is now a bodybuilder
7:35 Tyson Fury is younger and bigger than Oleksandr Usyk. There’s your example
Jon gets hit a lot. You can't get hit that much from Tom
I doubt these Tom boys would put their money on it
Tom wins
HELL YES!! Chael highlighted a list of unknowns about Tom. Well, the same thought experiment can be applied to Jon. Firstly, he is NOT a heavyweight. He is a light heavyweight who has consistently had a notable size advantage over all of his LHW opponents. He has never faced an opponent with not only a size advantage but speed and power advantage as well. The only way I see Jon beating Tom if it goes to the judges and we all saw what happened in the Reyes fight. Personally, I think Jon will sidestep Tom and for the same reason he sidestepped Francis. The risk to his precious "legacy" is just too high.
People forget tom is half polish and half British, he has polish power and British speed and iq
Randy Couture says, "Hold my beer 🍺."
Stipe takes Jon to Suplex City and chokes him out, then head kick KO's Tom in the first. Mark my words!
I don't believe it, but I know it CAN happen. That's why I love this sport. I want to find out, just like Tommy Boy.
If they fought tomorrow I still give Jon the edge. With that being said, that window where he is still that dude is closing and closing fast. It's actually kind of amazing how quickly people have forgotten how good Jon Jones is.
Thanks for clearing that up Chael , I wasn't sure how I was thinking 😂
5:16 Mike Tyson didn’t do that one time huh?..
How could jon beat Tom he's at least as good or better at every thing that jon does along with him doing things that jon has never done throughout his career. We also have yet to see Tom lose a fight while jon has lost before at LHW which was his prime even on PEDs he wasn't knocking out LWH's like tom is at heavy weight not to mention that the fighter's tom has fought are more challenging Oppents while jon fought big middle weights and non well rounded fighters in his prime fighters were simply less skilled then they are now making Jon's achievements less valuable in the modern era arguably making tom have the better record
I’m not buying stipe vs jon, if they make that fight I might not buy any anymore. Stipe hasn’t fought in 5 years. GSP was only out for 4 before his comeback. This is insane. Strip Jon.
The fight has been booked for 3 years now casual
@@tylero238 it’s booked? Cool what’s the date, what’s the venue? It’s booked? Like they signed the contract? So you saw the contract? Or do they call you bird brained because you love chirping.
@@tylero238 casual is a term that has never been used by mma fans older than 17 m8, get some rest, school will have you up early tomorrow.
Jon didn't even realise he'd done it till Rogan pointed it out to him. What ensued from Jon is comparable to Tom's reaction when he blew his knee out. Jon nearly passed out, that's why Joe was calling for the chair.
Jon is a big scary guy, but he couldn't even beat Tom in egg fighting.
Tom would have to finish him… we saw with the Reyes fight and the Gustafson fight that the judges will give Jon the win even when he doesn’t deserve it. But it crazy that someone who was a fighter in the ufc, who felt his body and tolerance for damage change over the years, and clearly saw changes in others, would still make a video about the invincible Jon Jones. He’s not a young kid anymore, he’s been out for extended periods, he is fighting at a weight he’s not used to. He can be knocked out just like anyone else, and if you don’t tap you will hear a snap… so Tom wins.
Only thing I’m certain of, if Jon is as smart as I think He’ll be either all the way on the outside or all the way on the inside and avoid punching range, mix the grappling in too, use kicks and clinches. But I actually believe Jon will get caught but not sure if He’ll survive or not
Do you guys remember that last Bellator event when Chael and Dan Hardy were the commentators? That was a blast. I am of the opinion that if Bellator marketed itself as a 1 or 2 Per Year kinda promotion, and the commentators were these two, and it was the massive fights outside of the UFC... It would be very high up (maybe equal or some years greater than UFC)... I think that its interesting to imagine a competition to UFC, cos we've never had it. But that might be it.
It really boils down to whether Jon can avoid getting punched in the face imo. If he makes it through the first round I like his chances. Jon is very smart in that cage. And those elbows are wicked.
If your well rounded you should have a way of shutting Tom Aspinall down.
If all you have to do is rush people and pressure all MMA fights would last seconds.
Tom just hasn't run into the individual with the fight IQ to counter him yet.
love that imperial evidence
Someone tried arguing with me earlier about a comment i made about toms fight i.q i basically said he has a great fight i.q and he beats jon the person said it was a stupid comment because we don't know what his i.q is i disagreed by saying it must be good if he has only spent 10 mins in the ring without taking any damage apart from the knee injury from curtis
Thats not fight IQ. That's rinse and repeat. That's being trained at 7 years old growing up to a be a heavyweight athletic beast. That's natural athletic ability. That's like doing a standing back flip.
Fight IQ is facing serious resistance and attrition and your ability to quickly recognize , neutralize and counter it.
@@kev30631 i can't argue with that point
The only reason I’m torn on this is….
- Jon is a literal murderous savage. Tom is what one might call “a nice bloak”… or bloke? I’m from Jersey… I don’t know how you spell this nonsense but… you’ve got one guy trying to be great at a sport and another guy who legit would take a life in a different time. The mind sets are just different. Tom views Jon as the Goat… Jon said he feared stipe a couple years back. Was that a respect thing from Jon? Maybe… but the mental side of this will dictate all of it because if you put Jon’s brain in Tom’s body, that hybrid wins whatever it decides to do
Easily
I'm not betting against Jon no matter who he fights. I like the phrase Dana White uses, if Jon and any other guy walks into a room and only 1 can walk out, Jon walks out every time!! Thats Badass!!!
3:31 Chael subtly predicts the eye poke 😂
We do believe in TA Cheal mate! Lets not forget that he took the Pav fight on 2 weeks notice... boom head shot, lights out! Blaydes gets dropped with a jab from his weaker left hand! Tom's also training with guys his size or bigger, exclusively... doing grappling rounds on repeat, carrying these giants on his back, taking him to dark depths. He's also one of those guys that was blessed with speed and agility from day dot. It's something that he and his Dad have purposely nurtured and kept from before he first started martial arts as a kid, before he grew into his 6'5 final form frame today! Nowadays... he already has the speed and footwork... but it's the power that is massively evident today, by the outcome of his wins! I personally don't think JJ will take this fight but it's defo wanted, until it happens... it's always gonna be hypothetical! Let's keep our fingers crossed! See what happens😜
I think Tom Aspinall has a better chance of beating Jon Jones than anyone else does. Tom might straight-up merk Jon with a Yolo strategy, and I couldn't blame him for trying that approach! Six years of age spread in the thirties makes a whole lot of difference. Now factor in Tom's agility for his size which will make the fight extremely difficult for Jon. I say Tom tears Jon a new one but it won't be easy!
im 55/45 in favor of jonny boy, jonny boy has the experience edge over of tommy which will be crucial in the later rounds
The problem Tom is going to have IF he beats Jon (by dec or KO) is going to be the flood of, "yeah, but you beat a older, fatter, slower Jon who hasn't fought in forever"
If Tom loses, they won't say that about Jon, they'll just say, "yeah but he's the GOAT" and Aspinal's stick wouldn't drop much if it was competitive...
Jon is such a bad person I see him just attacking the bad knee trying to cripple Tom. That’s his get out of jail card. Otherwise he is knocked out.
I can see him doing that to francis and Tom. Knee kicks but it didn't work with reyes
The title should be “Does anyone think Jon Jones beats Tom Aspinall?”
Always interesting C.
Jon Jones had difficulties with Alexander G. and D. Reyes because of their size and reach i believe.
Lets be honest Tom is just bigger naturally. His boxing, the angles with his timing and distance control is going test everyone. Actually Sergei P. Fight was the performance that really announced The British Heavy Weight looked like The Champion against such a opponent as our Sergei P.
I'm with you Chael, I'm no pro, just a fan with a few punches to the face, but if Tom hits Jon flush, it will hurt. I admire and have massive respect for you guys. Modern day gladiators. Warriors. If it goes longer than 2 rounds, I'm going with Jon.
Tom's been so good, we don't really know how good he is...if that makes sense. We need to see him go some rounds and we need to see more of his grappling. We also don't really know how good Jon is at HW as he's only had 1 walkover
Uncle Chael stating FACTS in the first 4 and a half seconds.
Not only do i think Tom Would win. I dont think Jon Can win.
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Chael's actually talking to Jon. Expertly doing his best to make Jon want to take the fight 👍🏻
Chael you got it 100% right !!!
People choose Tom out of simpathy and not skill. Doesnt mean Tom is skilles but he is no Jon Jones. Point. Jon wins 2nd Round by submission.
Tom’s striking accuracy sells me on this, but damn it’s hard to call it when you talk about jones quitting. I can’t picture him ever quitting, and idk if Tom puts him out proper with Jon not having time to scramble for a single or something
short answer: without a doubt uncle Chael.. Tom “Bout to Beat Your” Aspinall is Jon Jones kryptonite
Hopefully Jon does coca doesn't take tom seriously but tom is one of the few I've seen in years that has the size and skill set to get it done Jon survived on his talents to long it can be said no one has ever had that level before and the stupid things things he pulls it a real possibility that tom can win it would be so so much fun to watch that one go down
Yes.
Chael, love you man, but just by saying Jones is so tough he wouldn’t tap, doesn’t mean Tom can’t finish him on the ground. The referee will end the contest if Jon’s arm is snapped, or he’s unconscious. That said, I fully believe that Tom would knock him out if they fought. Problem is, I’d be amazed if they ever do. Jon will run because his ego won’t let him risk his record.