In case you are wondering: X-Men Fall of the Mutants -> Has New Mutant 55 to 61 X-Men Inferno Prologue -> Has New Mutant 62 to 70 X-Men Inferno -> Has New Mutant 71 to 73 New Mutant Vol 3 has 55 to 85, 19/31 issues are included in the above x-men event omnis (so 12 issues are new)
This is a must buy for me even with the double dipping. The New Mutants has always been one of my favorite mutant series and I love me some Illyana. I’ll end up getting the standard cover cos I like the spine better than the variant. Very excited to read this stuff again. Great overview as always Omar.
Thank you for the overview. I do have all X-Men event books. But i decided to grab NM vol 3 omnibus. Double dipping happens, and with the information that you provide, it helps each person make sound decisions.
The Liefeld issues were coming out as I was a kid so that was my first exposure to the New Mutants. As an idiot 10-11 year old those pre-Liefeld issues may as well have been created in the 40’s, that’s how dated they looked. It’s been a joy going back as an adult with better taste and reading these older stories.
My favorite Marvel characters and series. Can't wait to have this in my hands. Already came in just gotta pick it up. And yes I know exactly what particular issue you were referring to. One of a very very few comics that actually hit hard. Got to have Louise sign that issue this past summer. Only one more to go. 🤘
This is great for those only collecting New Mutants. I already have the X-Men event omnis so it's just too much double dipping for me. I'll wait for a Curse of the Valkyries reprint or a deep discount on this book to collect the missing issues.
Might wait for a sale because of all the double dipping but I'll eventually pick this up. I've always loved that Byrne 75 cover so that'll definitely be the one I get. Great review as always, Omar, thanks!
Isn't that what Omar and the gang Map My X have been saying for years? I think they call it the Inferno Aftermath and they included Judgement War whent hey talked about it.
I eventually bought the two Epics to fill in missing issues. I really wanted this, until I realized it double-dipped too much with the X-Men event omnis.
Really love this era, can't wait to get this book... Not a big fan of what's coming next, so not sure I'll be there for vol 4 but it will depend on what this next volume will include.
I really wanted this when y'all first announced it. But when i started researching it, vol. 3 double dipped too much for my preference. I personally dont mind mixing formats, so i have vol. 1 and 2, then did what y'all mentioned and bought the two Epic collections (New Mutants: Curse of the Valkyries and Cable) to fill in the missing issues.
I bought X terminators after I read the article in Marvel Age. id did not get all of the issues though. I bought the Epic collection with them, so may be double dipping. I I even bought some comics the Infernal storyline. I even bought some of the High Evolutionary storyline after reading the article.
I'll eventually buy this despite the double dipping but not this month because Christmas shopping left me broke. I just hope with the recently controversies of the Mutant massacre prelude omni, x-treme X-Men vol 2 not having the x-treme mini solicited & the bad mapping for secret wars that marvel does the right thing & include x-tinction agenda in nm vol 4. The darkchild spine makes me wish I got the vol 2 dm instead of the standard despite my dislike for widescreen covers because spines matter to Me just as much as covers do. And I don like the Doug lock vol 2 spine.
Great video as always, Omar. The art and writing in a lot of these issues is ROUGH. I'm an X-Men copmpletist to the maximum degree, but even I have a hard time getting through some of this.
Love this era of x-babies! Really hope we get an announcement of vol. 4 to close out the era soon, it has to come in 2024 right?! I love John Byrne but that DM cover is an odd choice -- issues 65 , 73, 74, and 80 would have been great choices. Blevins' art during this period is as closely associated in my mind with NMs as Sienkiewicz during his period.
This was very much my era as a kid, including all the tie-ins - and they've been hard to part with as floppies. Weighing this vs. the Epics. Is anything here completely uncollected in Epics?
@@Rob-z7k yup, the Liefeld era MOST of which is in the X-Force omnibus. Just not 86-96. So hopefully a final volume would have that and all of X-Tinction agenda, all of Days of Future Present, and all of Kings of Pain.
I’m holding off on this and hoping for an inferno aftermath omnibus or for this to be at Ollie’s. if not I’ll stick with the event omnis and the 1 epic
I did know that Forge can make things out of nothing until this video. I had seen him in the X-Men. I the first issues of New Mutants I bought was 62 and was trying to get the Fall of the Mutants issues. I thought the guy at the comic should set aside them since joined a club there. I bought Fallen Angels before that. I bought These issues in the Epic Collection and bought fist 2 volumes of Omnibus. I bought some other Epic issues way after they came out besides new volumes.
That's a punitive amount of double dipping - I think it would've made much more sense to have the FOTM-Inferno issues be vol. 3 or just make vol. 3 74-85 with the new issues that are between the FOTM-Inferno ones being added to reprints of those omnis.
@@yunoyuluvit also Days of Future Present, adding 4 annuals. Still too small. And I personally really dislike those final issues with Cable, so I'm not too eager to get it.
Most likely the combined content of NM Epics 7&8, just like this one is Epics 5&6 (plus extras). So: New Mutants 86-100, Annuals 5-7, Summer Special 1 Days of Future Present (Uncanny Annual 14, X-Factor Annual 5) X-Tinction Agenda (Uncanny 270-272, X-Factor 60-62) Kings of Pain (New Warriors annual 1, Uncanny Annual 15, X-Factor annual 6)
I really love these stories, but already having all X-Men OHC and Omnibus from that era, this will be a hard pass. I'll stick with NM Omnibus vol 1 and 2 and keep the epic collections to wrap up the series. If they ever release a vol.4 I might get it in order to improve to Oversize format, but double dipping what already have in oversize format is insane considering how much it costs and how many other omnibus I'm wanting.
I dont have much interest in this one due to all the double dipping. I might want volume 4 though (not sure yet) and I have 1-2 so if I get 4 then I would want this. I will probably just wait and see if it goes on some kind of sale
The cheap, thin, flimsy see-through paper used on IMac printer from Turkey, combined with the icky powdery feel of their pages is enough of a deterrent for me not to double dip on this omnibus. Marvel needs to give us better paper quality. Never mind the fact that they print these in Turkey while Turkey still occupies the north of Cyprus (just not cool at all on Marvel’s ethics part)…
Will eventually get this for completion sake but I can’t lie I’m really not a fan of the latter half of this book. Especially issue 75 SPOILERS - I just hate the explanation for magneto turning evil again
Uhhg. I was excited for this until you reminded me I already have most of this contained in Inferno. So I get the pleasure of paying 68 bucks for 12 issues. 🤮
Wouldn't it be simpler to just create complete runs and then circle back, for event and creator omni's, for those that wanted them, as and when they arise? As least everyone would (mostly) know where they stand.
Really they should’ve made complete runs based on the material/omnis that were already out there, *then* circle back and continue the numbered lines. Those creator books existed first for a reason, that should continue to be respected. Work with what you already have, not against it and by extension the majority of the consumer base.
I think people forget that those books weren't planned to perfectly match up with ongoing volumes like this one. Just like I'm sure a volume 4 will double dip with anything x-tinction agenda. Even an X-tinction omnibus like lots of people have been wanting.
@@mattthompson3371 I think it’s constructive to take things on a case by case basis. In the case of New Mutants it’s inevitable that the content in Vol 3 would largely double dip just because of how involved the title was in the events but rightfully should have its line completed because the majority of it was removed enough from said crossovers to warrant it.
Too much double dipping. Waiting for an Inferno Aftermath that's just the X-Factor and New Mutants stuff after Inferno, preferably also with X-Tinction Agenda thrown in. It's the same reason I didn't bother with Wolverine Omnibus Vol 1 if I already owned UXM Omnibus 3-4, Weapon X and Wolverine Epic 1. Same reason I don't care for Mutant Massacre Prelude if I own UXM Vol 5 and X-Factor Epic 1.
Have marvel omnibuses dropped drastically in quality in the past 3-4 years? I hadnt purchased any since before the pandemic but just dropped $400 on an order and the quality seems NOTICEABLY worse to what they used to put out. The books dont lay properly towards the beginning or end of the book, pages are much thinner, multiple dust jackets are off center... I'm struggling to see the point in dropping $100 on an omnibus when I can get a few $10 TPBs and have the same quality. They used to feel and look "premium"
@@elvaquerovaquero5243 I bought some image and dark horse hardcovers and they seem pretty consistent to what they used to sell... Deadly class deluxe vol 4 and black hammer library. DC was already pretty bad to begin with so its hard to believe they got worse but i wouldnt doubt it
@@litewait633 yeah IST used to be my main source but I used OPB on the past couple orders which is a bit more expensive. Gonna stick to IST in the future because OPBs packaging quality has dropped drastically. Books were protected with cardboard alone. No more bubblewrap. Every single book came damaged.
@@Yakerbb wow, I’ve always used OPB as my IST backup. That’s weird about the packaging and damaged books. I ordered USM v3 from them 3-4 weeks ago and it arrived perfect. I don’t remember anything unusual about the packaging material. I’d contact them. They’ve had good customer service in the past.
In case you are wondering:
X-Men Fall of the Mutants -> Has New Mutant 55 to 61
X-Men Inferno Prologue -> Has New Mutant 62 to 70
X-Men Inferno -> Has New Mutant 71 to 73
New Mutant Vol 3 has 55 to 85, 19/31 issues are included in the above x-men event omnis (so 12 issues are new)
Thank you for simplifying my life!! 😃
Thank you!! Pass for me
I think Omar goes all over this in the video. Plus he mentions the Annual 4.
In addition, Evolutionary War Omni already has Annual 4
76 in Atlantis Attacks Omni
84 - 85 in Acts of Vengeance Crossovers
So potentially even worse.
Thank you.
Definitely a must for me! This is my era of comics.
This is a must buy for me even with the double dipping. The New Mutants has always been one of my favorite mutant series and I love me some Illyana. I’ll end up getting the standard cover cos I like the spine better than the variant. Very excited to read this stuff again. Great overview as always Omar.
Illiyana is one of my favorites.
Could you please do a review about the 2019 reboot??? (Hickman -> Brisson -> Ayala -> Sanders)
Thank you for the overview. I do have all X-Men event books. But i decided to grab NM vol 3 omnibus. Double dipping happens, and with the information that you provide, it helps each person make sound decisions.
The Liefeld issues were coming out as I was a kid so that was my first exposure to the New Mutants. As an idiot 10-11 year old those pre-Liefeld issues may as well have been created in the 40’s, that’s how dated they looked. It’s been a joy going back as an adult with better taste and reading these older stories.
My favorite Marvel characters and series. Can't wait to have this in my hands. Already came in just gotta pick it up. And yes I know exactly what particular issue you were referring to. One of a very very few comics that actually hit hard. Got to have Louise sign that issue this past summer. Only one more to go. 🤘
This is great for those only collecting New Mutants. I already have the X-Men event omnis so it's just too much double dipping for me. I'll wait for a Curse of the Valkyries reprint or a deep discount on this book to collect the missing issues.
Its on instocktrades right now for 50 bucks. Id snatch it up now marked down from 125. Funny enough thier free shipping begins at exactly 50 dollars.
Might wait for a sale because of all the double dipping but I'll eventually pick this up. I've always loved that Byrne 75 cover so that'll definitely be the one I get. Great review as always, Omar, thanks!
Definitely anxiously awaiting this one and volume 4! That Leonardi 78 cover is my favorite!!!
After this book goes out of stock Marvel will announce a Post Inferno Omni with issues 74 to 85
😂
Isn't that what Omar and the gang Map My X have been saying for years? I think they call it the Inferno Aftermath and they included Judgement War whent hey talked about it.
I have all the event omnis. Still getting this too. Nice to have it all in 1 book
Got Vol 1 & 2. Still debating whether to get 3 or not.
Maybe when you read 1 + 2, you'll know 🤔
I eventually bought the two Epics to fill in missing issues. I really wanted this, until I realized it double-dipped too much with the X-Men event omnis.
IIRC, Double Dips if you have the event omnis
Now where is fear agent deluxe
@@mrawesome3915Yeah, I got all the event omnies too. It’s really not that much that’s missing.
Really love this era, can't wait to get this book... Not a big fan of what's coming next, so not sure I'll be there for vol 4 but it will depend on what this next volume will include.
I really wanted this when y'all first announced it. But when i started researching it, vol. 3 double dipped too much for my preference. I personally dont mind mixing formats, so i have vol. 1 and 2, then did what y'all mentioned and bought the two Epic collections (New Mutants: Curse of the Valkyries and Cable) to fill in the missing issues.
This is why I love you. Gotta go find EC #6!
i saw that the first issue with Liefeld was a higher price than other back issues in an ad.
I bought X terminators after I read the article in Marvel Age. id did not get all of the issues though. I bought the Epic collection with them, so may be double dipping. I I even bought some comics the Infernal storyline. I even bought some of the High Evolutionary storyline after reading the article.
I'll eventually buy this despite the double dipping but not this month because Christmas shopping left me broke. I just hope with the recently controversies of the Mutant massacre prelude omni, x-treme X-Men vol 2 not having the x-treme mini solicited & the bad mapping for secret wars that marvel does the right thing & include x-tinction agenda in nm vol 4. The darkchild spine makes me wish I got the vol 2 dm instead of the standard despite my dislike for widescreen covers because spines matter to Me just as much as covers do. And I don like the Doug lock vol 2 spine.
I saw the first 2 volumes do not have the letter pages even though some of comic book copies do.
Great video as always, Omar.
The art and writing in a lot of these issues is ROUGH.
I'm an X-Men copmpletist to the maximum degree, but even I have a hard time getting through some of this.
I hope they can fit these new issues into some kind of Inferno Aftermath event omnibus
That’s exactly what I think they will do
Love this era of x-babies! Really hope we get an announcement of vol. 4 to close out the era soon, it has to come in 2024 right?! I love John Byrne but that DM cover is an odd choice -- issues 65 , 73, 74, and 80 would have been great choices. Blevins' art during this period is as closely associated in my mind with NMs as Sienkiewicz during his period.
So, Vol. 4 will surely collect all of X-tinction Agenda, right?
Happy Holidays to you and your family! Is this volume as good as 1&2?
To me it was my childhood. So in my order it’s 1>3>2. :) happy holidays to you.
I looked up the epic collection it’s way out of print and you can’t get it for under 50 bucks.
So I’ll see if I can get this book for 60ish instead.
Its on instocktrades right now for 50 free shipping.
This was very much my era as a kid, including all the tie-ins - and they've been hard to part with as floppies. Weighing this vs. the Epics. Is anything here completely uncollected in Epics?
Yes the anthology stories and guest apps
This just means we're one step closer to getting an eXiles omnibus! 🙏
We can all hope
This is a must own for my x-men collection. 😊
They stopped just short of Cables intro!
@@Rob-z7k yup, the Liefeld era MOST of which is in the X-Force omnibus. Just not 86-96. So hopefully a final volume would have that and all of X-Tinction agenda, all of Days of Future Present, and all of Kings of Pain.
Sorry 86-97
The double dippage with the Fall & Inferno omnis doesn’t make me feel so bad for not being able to afford this omni. Phew!
I’m holding off on this and hoping for an inferno aftermath omnibus or for this to be at Ollie’s. if not I’ll stick with the event omnis and the 1 epic
I've never read The New Mutants, maybe I'll start with the Epic Collection #1.
I did know that Forge can make things out of nothing until this video. I had seen him in the X-Men. I the first issues of New Mutants I bought was 62 and was trying to get the Fall of the Mutants issues. I thought the guy at the comic should set aside them since joined a club there. I bought Fallen Angels before that. I bought These issues in the Epic Collection and bought fist 2 volumes of Omnibus. I bought some other Epic issues way after they came out besides new volumes.
That's a punitive amount of double dipping - I think it would've made much more sense to have the FOTM-Inferno issues be vol. 3 or just make vol. 3 74-85 with the new issues that are between the FOTM-Inferno ones being added to reprints of those omnis.
Guys stop reminding me how much I spent for mostly double dipping. I’m ok with not knowing
Not sure I can justify picking this one up for just 12 new issues...
There’s just too much double dipping for me. I cancelled my preorder. I wanted to want it
btw FOUR ads in this private video!
Lawd YT really trying to get that holiday money.
RUclips premium is so much better, no ads, more controls. Price is reasonable for how much I watch YT.
for sure, YT premium is more valuable to me than some streaming services subs, priceless if you use YT on a big tv@@xposhboyx
I take it vol 4 will be Cable on the cover!
Superhuman Registration Act, in case you need help with that, Omar.
Thank you! That was it!
What do you think Vol 4 will be?
With only 15 issues left, very slender. 🙂
A few of those are collected in the Xforce Omni
@@yunoyuluvit also Days of Future Present, adding 4 annuals. Still too small. And I personally really dislike those final issues with Cable, so I'm not too eager to get it.
Go watch Omar's Map My X. It's genius how they mapped the volumes. I miss that series of videos so much.
Most likely the combined content of NM Epics 7&8, just like this one is Epics 5&6 (plus extras).
So:
New Mutants 86-100, Annuals 5-7, Summer Special 1
Days of Future Present (Uncanny Annual 14, X-Factor Annual 5)
X-Tinction Agenda (Uncanny 270-272, X-Factor 60-62)
Kings of Pain (New Warriors annual 1, Uncanny Annual 15, X-Factor annual 6)
I really love these stories, but already having all X-Men OHC and Omnibus from that era, this will be a hard pass. I'll stick with NM Omnibus vol 1 and 2 and keep the epic collections to wrap up the series. If they ever release a vol.4 I might get it in order to improve to Oversize format, but double dipping what already have in oversize format is insane considering how much it costs and how many other omnibus I'm wanting.
I dont have much interest in this one due to all the double dipping. I might want volume 4 though (not sure yet) and I have 1-2 so if I get 4 then I would want this. I will probably just wait and see if it goes on some kind of sale
Man, seeing Cockrum's art with that color style feels so wrong. It takes the magic of Cockrum's lines and absolute drowns it.
Pass for me
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The cheap, thin, flimsy see-through paper used on IMac printer from Turkey, combined with the icky powdery feel of their pages is enough of a deterrent for me not to double dip on this omnibus. Marvel needs to give us better paper quality. Never mind the fact that they print these in Turkey while Turkey still occupies the north of Cyprus (just not cool at all on Marvel’s ethics part)…
I hope you don't collect DC omnis, because I have bad news for you.
Will eventually get this for completion sake but I can’t lie I’m really not a fan of the latter half of this book. Especially issue 75 SPOILERS - I just hate the explanation for magneto turning evil again
Uhhg. I was excited for this until you reminded me I already have most of this contained in Inferno. So I get the pleasure of paying 68 bucks for 12 issues. 🤮
Wouldn't it be simpler to just create complete runs and then circle back, for event and creator omni's, for those that wanted them, as and when they arise? As least everyone would (mostly) know where they stand.
Really they should’ve made complete runs based on the material/omnis that were already out there, *then* circle back and continue the numbered lines. Those creator books existed first for a reason, that should continue to be respected.
Work with what you already have, not against it and by extension the majority of the consumer base.
Except the numbered volumes existed before the creator omni's.
I think people forget that those books weren't planned to perfectly match up with ongoing volumes like this one. Just like I'm sure a volume 4 will double dip with anything x-tinction agenda. Even an X-tinction omnibus like lots of people have been wanting.
@@mattthompson3371 I think it’s constructive to take things on a case by case basis. In the case of New Mutants it’s inevitable that the content in Vol 3 would largely double dip just because of how involved the title was in the events but rightfully should have its line completed because the majority of it was removed enough from said crossovers to warrant it.
@@yunoyuluvit I meant as in existing before potential omnis that make them redundant, like cap Vol 4 replacing cap by Kirby for example.
Too much double dipping. Waiting for an Inferno Aftermath that's just the X-Factor and New Mutants stuff after Inferno, preferably also with X-Tinction Agenda thrown in. It's the same reason I didn't bother with Wolverine Omnibus Vol 1 if I already owned UXM Omnibus 3-4, Weapon X and Wolverine Epic 1. Same reason I don't care for Mutant Massacre Prelude if I own UXM Vol 5 and X-Factor Epic 1.
Out of interest, is there a reason no to call her weezy? I wouldnt anyway, but curious about this
Not worth it for 12 issues of x-men lite.
The DM cover for this is terrible. No New Mutants even visible! The regular cover is 1000% better. When they reprint they should change the DM cover.
Have marvel omnibuses dropped drastically in quality in the past 3-4 years? I hadnt purchased any since before the pandemic but just dropped $400 on an order and the quality seems NOTICEABLY worse to what they used to put out. The books dont lay properly towards the beginning or end of the book, pages are much thinner, multiple dust jackets are off center... I'm struggling to see the point in dropping $100 on an omnibus when I can get a few $10 TPBs and have the same quality. They used to feel and look "premium"
Every publisher has. Paper has gone up. Welcome back.
@@elvaquerovaquero5243 I bought some image and dark horse hardcovers and they seem pretty consistent to what they used to sell... Deadly class deluxe vol 4 and black hammer library. DC was already pretty bad to begin with so its hard to believe they got worse but i wouldnt doubt it
Get the Omnis at almost 1/2 off through IST or other direct market distributors, and then the price point won’t hurt so much.
@@litewait633 yeah IST used to be my main source but I used OPB on the past couple orders which is a bit more expensive. Gonna stick to IST in the future because OPBs packaging quality has dropped drastically. Books were protected with cardboard alone. No more bubblewrap. Every single book came damaged.
@@Yakerbb wow, I’ve always used OPB as my IST backup. That’s weird about the packaging and damaged books. I ordered USM v3 from them 3-4 weeks ago and it arrived perfect. I don’t remember anything unusual about the packaging material.
I’d contact them. They’ve had good customer service in the past.