thanks! this was one of the most fun things to do for the video since we know that with the chill season, branded weapons now have recolors instead of just stickers.
I think giving Big swig point censor and ink storm would be a perfect kit, the weapons could easily capitalize on a quick special in order to auto refill it’s tank giving it better paint output. Point sensor, give the weapon supportive capabilities without being too ink hungry compared to ink wall
No matter which it is, I'd love a roller to get Crab Tank. Having these short range menaces turn into a sidestepping artillery is just too cool not to do.
@@Zorconic True, predicting it happens in the next update given that they'll probably drop 1 or 2 crab weapons on non-shooters lol, gotta keep that shooter privilege for as long as possible
im glad the world agrees not only is carbon deco literally perfect, but also torpedo > autobomb i do think flingza's kit is very fitting as is though, id personally keep missiles but replace mine with either fizzy or burst like you said and dynamo could be great with point sensor too, good support main with the best support sub
Honestly, I don’t care too much about competitive viability. I just want a splat roller with suction bomb reefslider and it’s my dream. That being said, pretty much all of your kits make the most sense. I could also see big swig with ink storm and angle shooter to really hunker down on its painting abilities and supporting others from afar with marking. Huge roller main myself and I’m glad this was just randomly in my recommended 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
While I don't see it happening for a multitude of reasons, I think the funniest potential Roller kit would be a "Carbonated Big Swig Roller" with Fizzy Bomb and Tacticooler. Now Tacticooler isn't a good spammable special -or generally a good special in most applications thanks to its limited benefits-, and while the Fizzy gives the Swig a lot of options it isn't really the weapon to take full advantage of said options. But the theming is just too good. And it would still probably be an upgrade over current kit...not that that's saying much tbf. In terms of theme, it's a dream. In terms of viability, it's just my meme.
that foil flingza kit is almost too perfect, I feel like suction bomb could be a bog-down for the weapon so it’s not _too_ op. but great list!! coming from a long time splat roller and carbon main, you’ve got good sense.
splat roller definitely deserved a fizzy bomb and Killer Wail for its kit. (Since it's my most fav roller). fizzy bomb is universally great, and KillerWail is good for pressuring while still maintaining maneuvering (look at inkbrush for how good it synergized with it's SP).
Imo we deserve another roller with Splat Bomb, but I can understand why they took it away in 3 lmfao! In the hands of a skilled player the Kensa was insane for both offense (1 hit-ko main weapon + sub too) AND defense (Bubble Blower was crazy for Clam Blitz/Raimmaker pushes and temporarily shielding yourself to super jump away in dire conditions. Roller not being able to burst bubbles was compensated by Splat Bomb lol). Wonder what they'll come up with for the next update, and crazy excited to possibly see a Roller with Torpedo for the first time. If the latter happens, I'm definitely going to overplay said weapon too lol
I've been used to vdynamo in splat 3 and kensa in splat2 that I've almost completely gotten used to sprinkler on dynamo. I'm praying to god we actually get literally ANY bomb for the next kit lmfaoo
These are some cool kits. Lucky for me, I’ve recently decided to main carbon and it already has its perfect kit so I’m all set. But I used to main v roller in 2 so it would be nice for it to get fizzy at some point. It would work very well with it.
Personally I would love a Dynamo Roller with Burst Bomb and Ink Storm. Burst Bomb for the reasons stated in the video, and Ink Storm because it can deal chip damage to the enemies, effectively increasing your one hit kill range with the Dynamo Roller, while still providing useful support to the team via paint. This Dynamo kit is more aggressive, but still supports the team effectively. The playstyle would be to deal chip damage with burst bombs and ink storm, and then finish off the weakened opponents with a swing of the roller.
I actually think Curling would still be best for base roller because of its ability to quickly pop out a small little annoyance that the enemies *have* to respect because of the possibility of the roller following right behind it with ninja squid, which fizzy does worse than curling because you either have to pause for a little bit charging it up, letting the enemy know you’re coming, or risk a no charge fizzy not making a good enough trail to swim through. While I do agree that fizzy is just a better curling bomb, I think curling would still be better for roller.
As a non-roller main, I would play the "fuck splash meta" flingza so much; I love line marker so much, it's so fun to fuck with chargers with and I unironically wish more weapons had it
These are all really great. I’ve been playing a lot of Big Swig myself and I gotta say, it’s not TOTALLY unsalvageable. Since Krak-On is taking Beakons, I could see Big Swig thriving with something like Torpedo / Super Chump. Torpedo would help the main out significantly while SC (or even Storm or Wail) would help it move in and secure an area.
I think Dynamo actually gets a lot of use out of sprinkler, a quick option that can paint walls and your feet is something Dynamo really needs to help it move and decrease it's downtime (know this was made a while ago but kinda like how s-blast uses it) its too expensive for Dynamo, which is a major problem. Burst bomb was already explained, but I think Booyah bomb outclasses vac in terms of invincibility in every way, and will let dynamo play like how it did in Splatoon 2, being able to make riskier, but more rewarding plays with the utility of a quick option to give you hp that can turn a engagement from just another trade to possibly a kill if you use it right.
2:31 torpedo in my opinion is such a neat weapon because it's such a good distraction tool for fast firing weapons, such as Splattershot Jr and Splatana Wiper
fellow dynamo enthusiast, i have some thoughts about your kit for dynamo. dynamo falls under this branch of a skirmisher role that's like an anchor (i call it a lockdown skirmisher). it wants to move to hard control and pressure areas of the map. i will agree burst bombs are a great sub for the mobility and combo utility it has for dynamo and the low cost of it and it can ultimately play into the weaknesses of dynamo. but splat bomba are a powerful tool that dynamo uses super effectively despite its cost, it has setups and traps that burst bombs can't set up and has a more oppressive poking tool which plays into that strength for dynamo, it limits the mobility which is a drawback but that's why a team dynamo is on can help give it the paint to move around. as for the special, i hard disagree on ink vac, in a vacuum (funny), it sounds effective since dynamo would be in the perfect range to use it effectively but there's one, if not three specials that i believe are better for this lockdown skirmisher style i've mentioned. Booyah bomb, tristrike, and ink storm. Booyah bomb keeps it alive while still playing into the idea of locking down an area and forcing displacement that dynamo can use to setup for kills. tri strike may not be a good survival special but it still is a strong special for controlling areas and now shredding objects which dynamo struggles with doing. and ink storm, i will agree of the two others i mentioned, is the weakest, it still controls and lockdowns areas and the chip enemies accumulate combo effectively for dynamo to profit off of. so ultimately for me, my ideal kit for dynamo is: Splat Bomb Booyah Bomb
I would love to see gold dynamo have splat bomb and tristrike to help it fight and deal with specials, plus it's a reference to its kit in 1 Although that kit is on 2 weapons already so
What they could do for big swig is give it a brella sheild in the front ONLY WHEN IT ROLLS to roll places safely then set-up from there. They emphasized the rolling but you really only use it to run away.
I so desperately want normal roller to get wail since as you said it would combo extremely well with the main weapon but knowing the devs they’re gonna give the krak-on beacons and reefslider 🙃 oh well… here’s hoping for that third kit in like a year and a half
I’d love for Foil Flingza to have Point Sensor and Super Chumps. The vanilla kit in S2 (Wall/Splat Bomb Rush) was a really fun support weapon but the special wasn’t amazing with it, but I think the ability to fire and forget the Chumps instead of having to manually throw bombs would make it a lot more viable. Meanwhile it can shed the Wall since it doesn’t need to hide behind it for Splat Bomb Rush anymore, and Point Sensor would be a nice way to mark enemies for deletion.
For sloshers: Tri-Slosher Nouveau: Burst Bomb and Big Bubbler (Call back to splat 1's kit) Sloshing Machine Neo: Ink Mine and Trizooka Blob Deco: Torpedo and Ink Vac Custom Explosher: Squid Beacon and Wavebreaker Soda Slosher: Fizzy bomb and Tacticooler
If I would buff the Big Swig Roller, I would honestly make it’s damage divination better when you are trying to two flick someone in a horizontal flick and in a vertical flick. Because remember, it’s a roller with good mobility and attack speed for it’s effective range. And I would also increase the width of it’s vertical flick as well, since it’s a bit too precise for anyone to get an up close 1 shot kill with it, and also trying to poke from a distance with the weapon? Funny thought is that I had the same kit idea for Big Swig, as your Carbon’s kit idea. Imagine the torpedo combos with the Big Swig’s vertical flicks? It would simply turn the Big Swig Roller from being the worst roller in the game to possibly the best roller in the game?
splatana wiper and zipcaster or kraken would be good so you dont die while you rush the opposing team so your team can pressure while the other team deals with you. burst bomb or fizzy would be good for mobility Reply
I WHOLEHEARTEDLY empathize with your frustration with the Big Swig. I'm a mini splatling main and Heavy Edit makes me want to jump into a large body of water because it stole Tacticooler from us. But I guess my dream kit (besides that) would be Torpedo and Trizooka/Killer Wail
My dream carbon kit is burst bomb and zipcaster I know you said that it’s bad but zipcaster is made for getting up close to people and if people figure out how to use it the we might just get some competitive use and burst bomb is already a good sub for the damage combos so just imagine a carbon zipping around the stage getting splats left and right (I’d say I’m good with zipcaster) you Dan also use it to eliminate the charger or splatting and that is great since rollers struggle with the long range weapons and zipcaster is perfect for closeting the gap
Splat bomb and wavebreaker for stamper. The splash damage of a splat bomb (30) combos good with the charged slash damage (70), and wave breaker allows for more combo potential, with charged slashes and uncharged. A fun passive alternate kit for the stamper
I'd go splash wall and crab. Should be good mid to long range pressure, and you're nigh unkillable with this combo. Plus, we need a less aggressive splatana imo
yeah but i still think it should have a range increase (damage only) and one hit potential if your close enough. rolling doing 70 is fine but the kill range needs to be increased just a tad
I always thought that the deco kit would be the only carbon roller kit i would ever want but seeing the one you came up with makes miss when carbon had storm in Splatoon 2 and i want torpedo and storm on it now
I would love dualie squelchers with : Torpedo as a cheap bomb, paint, range and you can use it to 3 or 2 shot enemies: Killer wail 5.1 would be awesome as well
I've ended up doing really well with the regular roller recently, even though I never played one before (also played splatoon 1 to 3) Honestly even right now his kit is decent, the curling kinda sucks indeed but at least it's mobility, and the big bubbler somehow fits it kinda well too. Since rollers are deadly in close range, people wouldn't venture inside of the Big Bubbler, and you can cause a lot of chaos all alone simply by placing it in a good spot and partially blocking the enemy team. But of course, crab tank is still able to break through easily (at least you become a distraction and waste his special).
Roller Main here & god I love all of these ideas And the part where you was goin hard on big swig 😂😂I heard a RUclipsr said they took the worst parts of octo brush and carbon roller and put them on big swig 😂
SPICY BIG SWIG SWEAKON Give it to me I would love to see a more semi-aggressive kit for this weapon to be honest. A burst bomb would be nice - the wall just takes up so much ink, and the burst bomb would really drill in that "This weapon is _soooo_ ink efficient~" thing they were trying to do before, when showing it off. Since they raised the damage to 35, it's become a three hit instead of a four hit to take someone out at relatively close range. Putting burst bomb on it, at least in my mind, helps it keep up with the other rollers that can one or two hit enemies at the same range. It also still provides a bit of support if you see a teammate in a fight, allowing you to turn that fight into a 2v1 or something, or give poke damage for your teammate. As for the special, I'm not really sure on this one. Crab seems like an obvious choice, because of Big Swig's positioning patterns in sitting back. Booyah bomb is a decent displacer, too. Maybe triple ink strike, or reefslider? Hm... not sure yet.
Tbh I would like to see a hero flingza with the black and blue color(black and purple could also work for an anti-hero look) scheme but added to it maybe something like torpedo, fizzy or maybe the one that slows you down(forgot the name of it but I think it would prevent supports to help their team which I think flingza kinda has more of an attacker/destroy support kit) ofc burst is also an option now for special tenta missiles is good(no crab for me lol) but I think something like whale or reef slider would be good since once again imo it’s a supporter destroyer
I would love to see a Big Swig with fizzy bomb and tacticooler not because I think it would be a particularly good kit, but because I think the idea of a soda kit is funny
Admittedly surprised about Dynamo being a Support weapon, I always assumed it was the beeg hammer that's built to do beeg murder for a slow wind up, like an MH Greatsword type of thing.
During the Wii U era the Dynamo be aggressive was a thing in competitive at one point and it was heavily scary. The boosted up Dynamo with it's special is heavily menacing.
aggressive dynamo can work sometimes but too many times do i see dynamos alone going in trying to be slayer and then dying. you need to have the proper flank, map control, and maybe even tac active to be able to do that. otherwise it's a waste of time
I really like the alt kit for the base roller it feels like an alt way of playing the roller (a bit redundant i know) but it feels like it could actually exist
I'm a looser who doesn't understand anything, I just want my dream kit on my main weapon (which is flingza) , that's suction bomb and tri strike. Idk I think they're neat🤷
Wow, I've finally found someone else who also actually GIVES a shit about the roller class that isn't flingza! This class is pure torture to use so I dont find many other roller mains out there who aren't casuals. For Splat roller, it mainly needs mobility, but the problem with fizzy is that it's just too OP to put on a Splat roller in the long run. Its most likely going to be nerfed again at some point because fizzy does literally everything a sub weapon should, it inks, is both a lethal and chip damage, has mobility, combos, and can reveal players because of its extreme blast radius. As for Killer wail, I think that's a more suggestive choice because it comes down to personal preference honestly, I personally think killer wail would be mediocre, its really easy to avoid and doesn't last that long. In solo play you usually don't have teamwork, and because splat roller needs good teammates to be able to really do things, it wouldn't accomplish much most of the time. My dream kits for it would be burst bomb (you get 2, they're cheap & help with comboing+mobility) and zipcaster (ONLY IF it gets a buff.) or crab tank. I love transformation specials, and Zipcaster is an AMAZING concept but currently its really wimpy, and Crab tank is OP currently, but once they fix it it could be pretty fun and since the roller heavily relys on its teammates to help cover turf and provide openings, Crab would be an insanely good tool to let the roller be able to do that ITSELF. For Carbon roller, I'll admit, I really don't like carbon. It really only works with burst bomb and I think that's because its just a bad weapon, too weak, and has all the problems that comes with the class but without any of the upsides. However you made an EXCELLENT point about torpedo i never even thought about, so thats really spot on, as for the special, I'm not really sure but I think Inkstrike rush would be pretty cool. For dynamo, burst bomb should never ever be on this weapon, literally EVERYONE would be complaining about it forever. I love rollers, but even I dont want dynamo to have burst bomb. Curling bomb however, THAT would be pretty interesting. Gives it mobility and I actually believe curling bomb is pretty decent at being spammed. Ink vac is perfect already, but I'd also like to see Inkstrike rush as well. For flingza, splat bomb is perfect, as well as (a hopefully more balaced) crab tank, but inkstorm would be pretty good, flingza is too good right now for me to want anything super good on it, so instead of something like wave breaker, inkstorm could balance it out and allow it to have a splat bomb without making it permanently meta. For Big swig, I am a FIRM BELIEVER that big swig in its current state is just a terrible idea. It needs to be heavily reworked but its probably never going to be. However, I cannot deny that I have a lot of fun using big swig, its a support roller that I actually love playing (when my teammates dont suck), and I think your kit is pretty good already, but I think splat bomb would also be a good substitute for beacons (HOWEVER IF SWIG GETS BEACONS BECAUSE NINTENDO DEMANDS THE DEVS GIVE AT LEAST 1 ROLLER BEACONS ID SO SO HAPPY SO THAT SPLAT ROLLER DOESN'T GET SCREWED WITH BEACONS AGAIN.) I have quite a lot to say about the roller class, like how rolling, the gimmick the whole class is named after, is completely USELESS for everything except maybe big swig when its low on ink, or Roller bounce, the knockback effect on the roll glitching out and applying its knockback when it shouldn't, or how splat roller desperately needs a mobility buff otherwise any kit that doesn't have burst/curling/fizzy is automatically worse, or a lot of other things, I love the rollers. No other weapon even comes CLOSE to how much fun I have with them!
Foil Flingza with beacon/wave breaker 200p It would force it to actually move around the map Nouveau Flingza with suction/storm 190p Basic support kit and ink mine is boring af Gold dynamo with splat bomb/booyah bomb 190p Generic callback nothing special Tempered Dynamo with Burst/wail 180p Gives dynamo a actual movement option and wail for the callback and global displacement for harder dynamo MUs Krak-on Splat Roller with Torpedo/reworked kraken 190p Torp can provide distractions, easy combo damage while approaching, paints it’s feet and allows it to poke outside of its range and kraken is extremely fun Gold Splat roller with Fizzy/inkjet 180p I know inkjet is really bad but I’d rather have a special that gives the user more input then just holding zr at opponents I was thinking hammer at first but that would be kinda repetitive based off my list I don’t play big swig but from what I’ve heard people want burst/wavebreaker
I want a small buff for rollers as well, I want rollers to be able to paint your feet with a horizontal flick. All roller players know the pain of taking one step in enemy ink and being hopelessly screwed.
I would love to see a day when they give us a truly custom weapon where we can have custom kit and special with a weapon. The drawback to this would be the ink efficiency on custom kits would be poorer, and the special would be harder to charge. Especially on weapons that charge specials well.
Big Swig with fizzy bomb and tacticooler. Mostly for the meme of pairing soda weapon with soda sub and soda special (they could steal the 'soda' title from splatoon 1's Soda Slosher lol), but I do think I'd actually play it.
As one of those aggo Dynamos hear me out. Bring back tempered Dynamo from Splatoon 1. Killer Wail 5.1 will help with either starting or finishing damage. Then, either keep it similar to Splatoon 1 with autobomb or give it burst.
Since Splatoon 1 I wanted a dinamo with wall but in 3 we need burst bomb cause the game is so fast. Now for the special I love Tri strike for the good old days. I love the normal roller variant with killer wail 5.1
burst bomb and tenta missiles big swig, nobody will have any fun 👍 ...fr tho i would really love a burst bomb on big swig but i dunno if itll happen with the carbon deco already having burst. i would very much enjoy a kit with either booyah bomb or wavebreaker like you said
i main dynamo and i literally only use the special to fill my tank most of the time 😭 but ig it does help if my swings are faster. i forget to use my sub weapon w it tbh bc sprinkler is not... it, but ig it's good for splatzones 🤷♂️
As a roller player, I like these kits! Beakon on Big Swig especially would be so nice and I want Krak-on to be FREE from Beakons Though if that Flingza was in the game I think it would be a bit of a problem for everyone involved, not just us lol
maybe that and fizzy. roller needs a tool to get around quick so splat bomb is a really good bomb but it's not great on roller. inkstrike would be fine too
My dream kits (ignoring current ones): Normal- Fizzy/Big Bubbler. Carbon- Burst/Crab Flingza- Torp/Missiles Dynamo- Autobomb/Storm NOT perfect kits, but I’d love these
As a Dynamo lover, I would love that kit to become reality. I’m constantly begging for burst bombs to enhance mobility and allow me to turf walls more quickly than sprinkler allows, and while I’ve adored B-bomb since it’s debut, I’ve come to really appreciate the Ink Vac and it definitely does add to the emphasis of Dynamo being intended as support; Let’s just hope Ninty makes it happen, yeah?
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comment YOUR OWN dream kit for whatever weapon you want! i may make a video on them!
As an inkbrush main give me torpedo and any special that fits with it, but for me give me torpedo reefslider
For inkbrush, torpedo and killer wail 5.1
For octobrush, splat bomb and zipcaster/ultra stamp
mine and really any special other than reefslider for chydra
I want a .52 Gal with Torpedo/Tri-Inkstrike or Splat Bomb/Trizooka!
My dream kits as an Undercover Brella main is
A: Torpedo + Tacticooler
B: Splat Bomb + Ink Storm
Can I just say I love the recolorings for the weapons, especially flingza
thanks! this was one of the most fun things to do for the video since we know that with the chill season, branded weapons now have recolors instead of just stickers.
@@Zorconic yeah it really makes each weapon feel more unique than just adding a brand name and a kit swap
Oh yes
How did he do the recolors, anyways?
@@Ex_Kyoobd just put the images into my art software and used the bucket tool to recolor them
I think giving Big swig point censor and ink storm would be a perfect kit, the weapons could easily capitalize on a quick special in order to auto refill it’s tank giving it better paint output. Point sensor, give the weapon supportive capabilities without being too ink hungry compared to ink wall
So annoying, better line marker, has a good synergy for combos
I think big swig is fine how it is and its sub and special do not need to be changed
@@thesavageone8685 me when i lie
@@thesavageone8685 I like the big swig but I'll be damned if its kit has any offensive capability whatsoever
giving the big swig a more aggressive kit like burst bomb and killer wail 5.1 would be cool
as a roller main, i completely support all of these kits (especially dynamo with burst and flingza with crab)
Fling with any combo of the following:
A bomb
A functional special
S tier
No matter which it is, I'd love a roller to get Crab Tank. Having these short range menaces turn into a sidestepping artillery is just too cool not to do.
i know but if my flingza kit turns out to be true that would be absolute hell (unless crab gets a bigger nerf that 9->8 seconds)
@@Zorconic True, predicting it happens in the next update given that they'll probably drop 1 or 2 crab weapons on non-shooters lol, gotta keep that shooter privilege for as long as possible
@@Zorconic the flingza kit is the only ome that will make it into the game, sorry, i dont make the rules
@@sonicrunn3r895 we actually did get a non-shooter crab tank (heavy edit nouveau)
5:55 and on to of that, orange rollers look really cool
im glad the world agrees not only is carbon deco literally perfect, but also torpedo > autobomb
i do think flingza's kit is very fitting as is though, id personally keep missiles but replace mine with either fizzy or burst like you said
and dynamo could be great with point sensor too, good support main with the best support sub
carbon deco is literally my dream kit, im so glad it they gave it a good special this time unlike splatoon 2's autobomb launcher
Honestly, I don’t care too much about competitive viability. I just want a splat roller with suction bomb reefslider and it’s my dream.
That being said, pretty much all of your kits make the most sense. I could also see big swig with ink storm and angle shooter to really hunker down on its painting abilities and supporting others from afar with marking.
Huge roller main myself and I’m glad this was just randomly in my recommended 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
While I don't see it happening for a multitude of reasons, I think the funniest potential Roller kit would be a "Carbonated Big Swig Roller" with Fizzy Bomb and Tacticooler.
Now Tacticooler isn't a good spammable special -or generally a good special in most applications thanks to its limited benefits-, and while the Fizzy gives the Swig a lot of options it isn't really the weapon to take full advantage of said options. But the theming is just too good.
And it would still probably be an upgrade over current kit...not that that's saying much tbf. In terms of theme, it's a dream. In terms of viability, it's just my meme.
Meme kit ftw lol
same hat
TBH Fizzy Bomb and Tacticooler would be a great kit for it gameplay-wise too.
FINALLY someone who agrees that there are better bombs than curling for the base roller. That bomb becomes so annoying, so fast.
New Inkbrush: Torpedo Booyah Bomb
I NEED THIS
that foil flingza kit is almost too perfect, I feel like suction bomb could be a bog-down for the weapon so it’s not _too_ op. but great list!! coming from a long time splat roller and carbon main, you’ve got good sense.
splat roller definitely deserved a fizzy bomb and Killer Wail for its kit. (Since it's my most fav roller). fizzy bomb is universally great, and KillerWail is good for pressuring while still maintaining maneuvering (look at inkbrush for how good it synergized with it's SP).
Imo we deserve another roller with Splat Bomb, but I can understand why they took it away in 3 lmfao! In the hands of a skilled player the Kensa was insane for both offense (1 hit-ko main weapon + sub too) AND defense (Bubble Blower was crazy for Clam Blitz/Raimmaker pushes and temporarily shielding yourself to super jump away in dire conditions. Roller not being able to burst bubbles was compensated by Splat Bomb lol). Wonder what they'll come up with for the next update, and crazy excited to possibly see a Roller with Torpedo for the first time. If the latter happens, I'm definitely going to overplay said weapon too lol
Now that I think about it, which weapon wouldn't want a torpedo and inkstorm kit? It's a very good combination
I've been used to vdynamo in splat 3 and kensa in splat2 that I've almost completely gotten used to sprinkler on dynamo. I'm praying to god we actually get literally ANY bomb for the next kit lmfaoo
im hoping we get splat or burst bomb
These are some cool kits. Lucky for me, I’ve recently decided to main carbon and it already has its perfect kit so I’m all set. But I used to main v roller in 2 so it would be nice for it to get fizzy at some point. It would work very well with it.
i do love flingza roller the set you show if it became real i will main it to death (slat bomb and crab, o boy i will main it)
Personally I would love a Dynamo Roller with Burst Bomb and Ink Storm.
Burst Bomb for the reasons stated in the video, and Ink Storm because it can deal chip damage to the enemies, effectively increasing your one hit kill range with the Dynamo Roller, while still providing useful support to the team via paint.
This Dynamo kit is more aggressive, but still supports the team effectively.
The playstyle would be to deal chip damage with burst bombs and ink storm, and then finish off the weakened opponents with a swing of the roller.
I actually think Curling would still be best for base roller because of its ability to quickly pop out a small little annoyance that the enemies *have* to respect because of the possibility of the roller following right behind it with ninja squid, which fizzy does worse than curling because you either have to pause for a little bit charging it up, letting the enemy know you’re coming, or risk a no charge fizzy not making a good enough trail to swim through. While I do agree that fizzy is just a better curling bomb, I think curling would still be better for roller.
i would love a flingza like that omg
As a non-roller main, I would play the "fuck splash meta" flingza so much; I love line marker so much, it's so fun to fuck with chargers with and I unironically wish more weapons had it
These are all really great. I’ve been playing a lot of Big Swig myself and I gotta say, it’s not TOTALLY unsalvageable. Since Krak-On is taking Beakons, I could see Big Swig thriving with something like Torpedo / Super Chump. Torpedo would help the main out significantly while SC (or even Storm or Wail) would help it move in and secure an area.
That Flingza kit is the stuff of dreams AND nightmares
My dream kit for every weapon is line marker and reefslider
perfect
I think Dynamo actually gets a lot of use out of sprinkler, a quick option that can paint walls and your feet is something Dynamo really needs to help it move and decrease it's downtime (know this was made a while ago but kinda like how s-blast uses it) its too expensive for Dynamo, which is a major problem. Burst bomb was already explained, but I think Booyah bomb outclasses vac in terms of invincibility in every way, and will let dynamo play like how it did in Splatoon 2, being able to make riskier, but more rewarding plays with the utility of a quick option to give you hp that can turn a engagement from just another trade to possibly a kill if you use it right.
2:31 torpedo in my opinion is such a neat weapon because it's such a good distraction tool for fast firing weapons, such as Splattershot Jr and Splatana Wiper
I'd personally want Flingza Roller to have Splat Bomb and Ink Jet. I love using it and want it on one of the rollers besides big swig
fellow dynamo enthusiast, i have some thoughts about your kit for dynamo.
dynamo falls under this branch of a skirmisher role that's like an anchor (i call it a lockdown skirmisher). it wants to move to hard control and pressure areas of the map. i will agree burst bombs are a great sub for the mobility and combo utility it has for dynamo and the low cost of it and it can ultimately play into the weaknesses of dynamo. but splat bomba are a powerful tool that dynamo uses super effectively despite its cost, it has setups and traps that burst bombs can't set up and has a more oppressive poking tool which plays into that strength for dynamo, it limits the mobility which is a drawback but that's why a team dynamo is on can help give it the paint to move around.
as for the special, i hard disagree on ink vac, in a vacuum (funny), it sounds effective since dynamo would be in the perfect range to use it effectively but there's one, if not three specials that i believe are better for this lockdown skirmisher style i've mentioned. Booyah bomb, tristrike, and ink storm. Booyah bomb keeps it alive while still playing into the idea of locking down an area and forcing displacement that dynamo can use to setup for kills. tri strike may not be a good survival special but it still is a strong special for controlling areas and now shredding objects which dynamo struggles with doing. and ink storm, i will agree of the two others i mentioned, is the weakest, it still controls and lockdowns areas and the chip enemies accumulate combo effectively for dynamo to profit off of.
so ultimately for me, my ideal kit for dynamo is:
Splat Bomb
Booyah Bomb
as a splat roller main i was salivating at the idea of fizzy + wail, hopefully the krack-on roller gets something close to this kit
I would love to see gold dynamo have splat bomb and tristrike to help it fight and deal with specials, plus it's a reference to its kit in 1
Although that kit is on 2 weapons already so
To be honest they also put the same kit on two splatlings at launch.
What they could do for big swig is give it a brella sheild in the front ONLY WHEN IT ROLLS to roll places safely then set-up from there. They emphasized the rolling but you really only use it to run away.
I have never seen such an amazing video about my favorite weapon class, and the kits, are just perfect
thank you! i appreciate that a lot
@@Zorconic no need, and take an incoming subscription for good measure
I so desperately want normal roller to get wail since as you said it would combo extremely well with the main weapon but knowing the devs they’re gonna give the krak-on beacons and reefslider 🙃 oh well… here’s hoping for that third kit in like a year and a half
I’d love for Foil Flingza to have Point Sensor and Super Chumps. The vanilla kit in S2 (Wall/Splat Bomb Rush) was a really fun support weapon but the special wasn’t amazing with it, but I think the ability to fire and forget the Chumps instead of having to manually throw bombs would make it a lot more viable.
Meanwhile it can shed the Wall since it doesn’t need to hide behind it for Splat Bomb Rush anymore, and Point Sensor would be a nice way to mark enemies for deletion.
For sloshers:
Tri-Slosher Nouveau: Burst Bomb and Big Bubbler (Call back to splat 1's kit)
Sloshing Machine Neo: Ink Mine and Trizooka
Blob Deco: Torpedo and Ink Vac
Custom Explosher: Squid Beacon and Wavebreaker
Soda Slosher: Fizzy bomb and Tacticooler
My dream kit is a splattershot with kraken and point sensor 🤷♂️
If I would buff the Big Swig Roller, I would honestly make it’s damage divination better when you are trying to two flick someone in a horizontal flick and in a vertical flick. Because remember, it’s a roller with good mobility and attack speed for it’s effective range. And I would also increase the width of it’s vertical flick as well, since it’s a bit too precise for anyone to get an up close 1 shot kill with it, and also trying to poke from a distance with the weapon?
Funny thought is that I had the same kit idea for Big Swig, as your Carbon’s kit idea. Imagine the torpedo combos with the Big Swig’s vertical flicks? It would simply turn the Big Swig Roller from being the worst roller in the game to possibly the best roller in the game?
So glad people think Flingza is good now, I've been using it since even before the Foil variant came out in S2
splatana wiper and zipcaster or kraken would be good so you dont die while you rush the opposing team so your team can pressure while the other team deals with you. burst bomb or fizzy would be good for mobility
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I feel instead of the dynamo roller kit you gave, it should have og gold dynamo kit splat bomb and tri inkstrike
I want that Splat Roller kit, but I'm prepared for the Krack-on Roller to get Squid Beacon and Reefslider
yeah...
I WHOLEHEARTEDLY empathize with your frustration with the Big Swig. I'm a mini splatling main and Heavy Edit makes me want to jump into a large body of water because it stole Tacticooler from us. But I guess my dream kit (besides that) would be Torpedo and Trizooka/Killer Wail
My dream carbon kit is burst bomb and zipcaster I know you said that it’s bad but zipcaster is made for getting up close to people and if people figure out how to use it the we might just get some competitive use and burst bomb is already a good sub for the damage combos so just imagine a carbon zipping around the stage getting splats left and right (I’d say I’m good with zipcaster) you Dan also use it to eliminate the charger or splatting and that is great since rollers struggle with the long range weapons and zipcaster is perfect for closeting the gap
I can’t exactly explain it, but there is this weird sense of euphoria I get from playing big swig aggressively.
I think that curling is about the same for roller than fizzy, since you can paint over the fizzy trail before the roller gets there.
Splat bomb and wavebreaker for stamper. The splash damage of a splat bomb (30) combos good with the charged slash damage (70), and wave breaker allows for more combo potential, with charged slashes and uncharged. A fun passive alternate kit for the stamper
I'd go splash wall and crab. Should be good mid to long range pressure, and you're nigh unkillable with this combo. Plus, we need a less aggressive splatana imo
Well... at least big swig roller is now a 3 shot since it has 35 damage.😅
yeah but i still think it should have a range increase (damage only) and one hit potential if your close enough. rolling doing 70 is fine but the kill range needs to be increased just a tad
@@Zorconic what do you mean by "range increase (damage only)?" I am confused.
Sees flingza kit
*GOD WHY WTF!*
I always thought that the deco kit would be the only carbon roller kit i would ever want but seeing the one you came up with makes miss when carbon had storm in Splatoon 2 and i want torpedo and storm on it now
I would love dualie squelchers with :
Torpedo as a cheap bomb, paint, range and you can use it to 3 or 2 shot enemies:
Killer wail 5.1 would be awesome as well
as a splat roller main, I APPROVE OF THIS!!!!
(also the recolour looks nice)
I've ended up doing really well with the regular roller recently, even though I never played one before (also played splatoon 1 to 3)
Honestly even right now his kit is decent, the curling kinda sucks indeed but at least it's mobility, and the big bubbler somehow fits it kinda well too. Since rollers are deadly in close range, people wouldn't venture inside of the Big Bubbler, and you can cause a lot of chaos all alone simply by placing it in a good spot and partially blocking the enemy team. But of course, crab tank is still able to break through easily (at least you become a distraction and waste his special).
Roller Main here & god I love all of these ideas
And the part where you was goin hard on big swig 😂😂I heard a RUclipsr said they took the worst parts of octo brush and carbon roller and put them on big swig 😂
SPICY BIG SWIG SWEAKON
Give it to me
I would love to see a more semi-aggressive kit for this weapon to be honest. A burst bomb would be nice - the wall just takes up so much ink, and the burst bomb would really drill in that "This weapon is _soooo_ ink efficient~" thing they were trying to do before, when showing it off. Since they raised the damage to 35, it's become a three hit instead of a four hit to take someone out at relatively close range. Putting burst bomb on it, at least in my mind, helps it keep up with the other rollers that can one or two hit enemies at the same range. It also still provides a bit of support if you see a teammate in a fight, allowing you to turn that fight into a 2v1 or something, or give poke damage for your teammate.
As for the special, I'm not really sure on this one. Crab seems like an obvious choice, because of Big Swig's positioning patterns in sitting back. Booyah bomb is a decent displacer, too. Maybe triple ink strike, or reefslider? Hm... not sure yet.
For the alternative carbon kit I think triple ink strike would be the perfect fit applies pressure at range and a smoke screen for you to get in
Tbh I would like to see a hero flingza with the black and blue color(black and purple could also work for an anti-hero look) scheme but added to it maybe something like torpedo, fizzy or maybe the one that slows you down(forgot the name of it but I think it would prevent supports to help their team which I think flingza kinda has more of an attacker/destroy support kit) ofc burst is also an option now for special tenta missiles is good(no crab for me lol) but I think something like whale or reef slider would be good since once again imo it’s a supporter destroyer
I would love to see a Big Swig with fizzy bomb and tacticooler not because I think it would be a particularly good kit, but because I think the idea of a soda kit is funny
As a dynamo main I completely disagree with vac on it, dynamo has never really felt like that much of a support either at least not to me
Admittedly surprised about Dynamo being a Support weapon, I always assumed it was the beeg hammer that's built to do beeg murder for a slow wind up, like an MH Greatsword type of thing.
nintendo.. take notes rn.
During the Wii U era the Dynamo be aggressive was a thing in competitive at one point and it was heavily scary. The boosted up Dynamo with it's special is heavily menacing.
aggressive dynamo can work sometimes but too many times do i see dynamos alone going in trying to be slayer and then dying. you need to have the proper flank, map control, and maybe even tac active to be able to do that. otherwise it's a waste of time
I just realized that your flingza kit just predicted the heavy edit Nouveau kit
huh, that’s kinda cool
Dynamo roller needs fizzy or burst because it’s a great escape sub, as it’s most likely to die to missiles and booyah bomb
I really like the alt kit for the base roller it feels like an alt way of playing the roller (a bit redundant i know) but it feels like it could actually exist
I'm a looser who doesn't understand anything, I just want my dream kit on my main weapon (which is flingza) , that's suction bomb and tri strike. Idk I think they're neat🤷
As a dynamo main in both 2 and 3 I will say I very much want that kit.
yeah i wanna get back into it, but i hate the kit it has. this one would definitely make me wanna play it again
As a flingza user we can only dream
i would love fizzy bomb + ink storm for dynamo..... fizzy would help with movement and storm would be great to finish off opponents
The new flingza kit you came up with sounds terrifying
Wow, I've finally found someone else who also actually GIVES a shit about the roller class that isn't flingza! This class is pure torture to use so I dont find many other roller mains out there who aren't casuals.
For Splat roller, it mainly needs mobility, but the problem with fizzy is that it's just too OP to put on a Splat roller in the long run. Its most likely going to be nerfed again at some point because fizzy does literally everything a sub weapon should, it inks, is both a lethal and chip damage, has mobility, combos, and can reveal players because of its extreme blast radius. As for Killer wail, I think that's a more suggestive choice because it comes down to personal preference honestly, I personally think killer wail would be mediocre, its really easy to avoid and doesn't last that long. In solo play you usually don't have teamwork, and because splat roller needs good teammates to be able to really do things, it wouldn't accomplish much most of the time. My dream kits for it would be burst bomb (you get 2, they're cheap & help with comboing+mobility) and zipcaster (ONLY IF it gets a buff.) or crab tank. I love transformation specials, and Zipcaster is an AMAZING concept but currently its really wimpy, and Crab tank is OP currently, but once they fix it it could be pretty fun and since the roller heavily relys on its teammates to help cover turf and provide openings, Crab would be an insanely good tool to let the roller be able to do that ITSELF.
For Carbon roller, I'll admit, I really don't like carbon. It really only works with burst bomb and I think that's because its just a bad weapon, too weak, and has all the problems that comes with the class but without any of the upsides. However you made an EXCELLENT point about torpedo i never even thought about, so thats really spot on, as for the special, I'm not really sure but I think Inkstrike rush would be pretty cool.
For dynamo, burst bomb should never ever be on this weapon, literally EVERYONE would be complaining about it forever. I love rollers, but even I dont want dynamo to have burst bomb. Curling bomb however, THAT would be pretty interesting. Gives it mobility and I actually believe curling bomb is pretty decent at being spammed. Ink vac is perfect already, but I'd also like to see Inkstrike rush as well.
For flingza, splat bomb is perfect, as well as (a hopefully more balaced) crab tank, but inkstorm would be pretty good, flingza is too good right now for me to want anything super good on it, so instead of something like wave breaker, inkstorm could balance it out and allow it to have a splat bomb without making it permanently meta.
For Big swig, I am a FIRM BELIEVER that big swig in its current state is just a terrible idea. It needs to be heavily reworked but its probably never going to be. However, I cannot deny that I have a lot of fun using big swig, its a support roller that I actually love playing (when my teammates dont suck), and I think your kit is pretty good already, but I think splat bomb would also be a good substitute for beacons (HOWEVER IF SWIG GETS BEACONS BECAUSE NINTENDO DEMANDS THE DEVS GIVE AT LEAST 1 ROLLER BEACONS ID SO SO HAPPY SO THAT SPLAT ROLLER DOESN'T GET SCREWED WITH BEACONS AGAIN.)
I have quite a lot to say about the roller class, like how rolling, the gimmick the whole class is named after, is completely USELESS for everything except maybe big swig when its low on ink, or Roller bounce, the knockback effect on the roll glitching out and applying its knockback when it shouldn't, or how splat roller desperately needs a mobility buff otherwise any kit that doesn't have burst/curling/fizzy is automatically worse, or a lot of other things, I love the rollers. No other weapon even comes CLOSE to how much fun I have with them!
My dream kit for big swig is fizzy bomb (because if it’s theme with carbonated drinks) and ink storm to help it with chip damage
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I love the flingza kit, crab would be so good for it.
Foil Flingza with beacon/wave breaker 200p
It would force it to actually move around the map
Nouveau Flingza with suction/storm 190p
Basic support kit and ink mine is boring af
Gold dynamo with splat bomb/booyah bomb 190p
Generic callback nothing special
Tempered Dynamo with Burst/wail 180p
Gives dynamo a actual movement option and wail for the callback and global displacement for harder dynamo MUs
Krak-on Splat Roller with Torpedo/reworked kraken 190p
Torp can provide distractions, easy combo damage while approaching, paints it’s feet and allows it to poke outside of its range and kraken is extremely fun
Gold Splat roller with Fizzy/inkjet 180p
I know inkjet is really bad but I’d rather have a special that gives the user more input then just holding zr at opponents I was thinking hammer at first but that would be kinda repetitive based off my list
I don’t play big swig but from what I’ve heard people want burst/wavebreaker
I want a small buff for rollers as well, I want rollers to be able to paint your feet with a horizontal flick.
All roller players know the pain of taking one step in enemy ink and being hopelessly screwed.
For carbon I think burst bomb trizooka would be good, burstbomb can combo with the main weapon, and trizooka gives it a range option
that's just deco
I would love to see a day when they give us a truly custom weapon where we can have custom kit and special with a weapon. The drawback to this would be the ink efficiency on custom kits would be poorer, and the special would be harder to charge. Especially on weapons that charge specials well.
Splat roller with fizzy and zipcaster would be pretty funny in my opinion
Nah you forget the dangers of Splat roller with torpedo and buffed reefslider
Big Swig with fizzy bomb and tacticooler. Mostly for the meme of pairing soda weapon with soda sub and soda special (they could steal the 'soda' title from splatoon 1's Soda Slosher lol), but I do think I'd actually play it.
The base roller kit would be interesting since there would be reason to use both kits...
Outside of crab meta...
As one of those aggo Dynamos hear me out. Bring back tempered Dynamo from Splatoon 1. Killer Wail 5.1 will help with either starting or finishing damage. Then, either keep it similar to Splatoon 1 with autobomb or give it burst.
Since Splatoon 1 I wanted a dinamo with wall but in 3 we need burst bomb cause the game is so fast. Now for the special I love Tri strike for the good old days.
I love the normal roller variant with killer wail 5.1
If big swig had burst bomb
And dynamo had splash wall or burst bomb works too
Thatd be perfect
id argue that sprinkler is decent for dynamo because you can use it to paint your feet and walls but it 100%is no burst bomb
burst bomb and tenta missiles big swig, nobody will have any fun 👍
...fr tho i would really love a burst bomb on big swig but i dunno if itll happen with the carbon deco already having burst. i would very much enjoy a kit with either booyah bomb or wavebreaker like you said
I wish they will come out with more agressive kits for said "support" weapons. I have never played dynamo as a support more as a long range slayer
On Aerospray MG, could we keep Fizzy and get a more supportive special to support it's play style as a painting support would be great.
I will take literally *any* special if it means we get fizzy on splat.
please 🙏 knowing the devs though they’re gonna do krak on with squeakon and reef slider😭
i main dynamo and i literally only use the special to fill my tank most of the time 😭 but ig it does help if my swings are faster. i forget to use my sub weapon w it tbh bc sprinkler is not... it, but ig it's good for splatzones 🤷♂️
As a roller player, I like these kits! Beakon on Big Swig especially would be so nice and I want Krak-on to be FREE from Beakons
Though if that Flingza was in the game I think it would be a bit of a problem for everyone involved, not just us lol
For Carbon I was thinking Point Marker (Especially since it got buffed) and Tacticooler.
A Splat Roller with Burst Bomb and Triple Inkstrike because there isn’t many weapons with it would be neat.
maybe that and fizzy. roller needs a tool to get around quick so splat bomb is a really good bomb but it's not great on roller. inkstrike would be fine too
My dream kits (ignoring current ones):
Normal- Fizzy/Big Bubbler.
Carbon- Burst/Crab
Flingza- Torp/Missiles
Dynamo- Autobomb/Storm
NOT perfect kits, but I’d love these
Also, dynamo could work with Tristrike/burst maybe
Oh and swig needs fizzy/Booyah imo
Cant wait for aerospray with missles
Just give them all point sensor
I’d love to see the same type of video for the splatanas and the stringers
As a Dynamo lover, I would love that kit to become reality. I’m constantly begging for burst bombs to enhance mobility and allow me to turf walls more quickly than sprinkler allows, and while I’ve adored B-bomb since it’s debut, I’ve come to really appreciate the Ink Vac and it definitely does add to the emphasis of Dynamo being intended as support; Let’s just hope Ninty makes it happen, yeah?
We saw gold dynamo in the trailer (I think). Keep coping and hope they releases another dynamo with this banger kit.