I've been using my D750 for 9 years now and I wanted a cool new camera that can do lots of cool shit. There's my justification! LOL! Thanks for your review!
I'm looking into buying the z 6III as well but have been having the dilemma of spending 1400 moneys more on the z8 or not. I know the AF, resolution and shutter cover are good "pros" but the z6III has touch focus while in view finder mode, better ibis, flip screen and better low light performance. Plus, the money I'll save from buying the z8 will help when i buy the 180-600 🤔
@@emanueloliveira7997 Depending on where you're located and if you're okay with used or refurbished the Z8 here in the US is getting really close to the Z6III new price so the big differences are : megapixels = 45 vs 24 , AF = Z8 better/slightly better, 8K Video vs 6K video. I occasionally wish for the 45 megapixels but I haven't printed at a size to warrant that yet and 6K is fine and I'm still learning the autofocus so I think I'm making the errors not the camera
@@emanueloliveira7997 i have both the Z8 and the Z6 III and i bought the Z8 AFTER the Z6 III. The size, ergonomics, the sensor-covering shutter... It feels like it has a genie inside that tells you "trust me".
Nice pictures I want same combination just worried about noise or grains in raw pictures due to higher mega pixels. I used Z7ii but in raw huge noise so need to do denoising. That again I don’t want to struggle. Suggest please regarding noise in low light or room light. Thank you ❤
@@SprocketHoles I am using the D5, and I have felt the weight of being 60, but the Z8 overheating during long shoots makes me concerned! Please give me some advice - thank you.
Why would you switch to a worse system? Sony has so many affordable 3rd party lenses and their bodies will always be ahead of Nikon by 3-5 years in everything.
@@Chopper153 I'm not getting into an argument about what kit I may or may not buy. I've done the research though and having used Sony for the last decade like the Nikon Z8 quite a bit. Cheers.
Very interesting how a simple white border improves the picture 😂😂 very true that the best camera won't make you take better pictures, gives me pause in my bug-eyed search for a bargain z8 😅
i have both z9 z8 sold the z8 battery on z9 superiour and allso full magnesium body not like the z8 which isnt the 800mm pf and the 400mm 2.8 balance perfect on the z9 not so good on the z8
As a Sony to Nikon migrant, it is noticeably heavier for sure, but the grip is bigger as well. depends on what lens you'll pair it with and how long you intend to carry it! Most Nikon zooms are pretty light weight.
You should get a7rV or a1. These cameras have better autofocus than any Nikon and comparable image quality (since Nikon buys sensors from Sony, can't make those themselves). Personally, I switched from Nikon dslr to Canon R6 mk ii and I'm very happy.
I prefer the R3, due to the flawless adapter capability for EOS glass, ergonomics, and high ISO DR. I don't even own RF glass, I just share with the EOS 3 film bodies. I looked at going F6 + Z8, even rented a Z8, but the glass situation was less attractive. I have stabilized L zooms from 16-400mm, and stabilized 35mm F2. There were no native FX stabilized primes, and I wanted that for film.
Funnily enough, EOS glass can be adapted to all the other systems, but on the other hand Canon will not let you any other lenses in their mirrorless system. I'd rather have the autofocus M mount adapter for Z and potential for high quality glass from Sigma or Tamron than getting myself into a closed mount corner.
@@spaqin Yeah but I'm not using RF glass, so I'm not locked into anything. I have another 8 lenses for three other mounts that I regularly adapt to the R3. Canon also appears to be opening up the mount. I own a Pentax K70 and an Olympus EM5ii, both dedicated to scanning different film formats, and I owned a Sony A7R3 in the past. I landed on EF glass because it gave me a four lens do-everytging kit that spanned analog and digital. Now, I am intrigued by the Nikon 28-400mm. I could do that with the new 50mm F1.4 and then an F6 with 28-300mm and Tamron 35mm VC. The total weight of that comes in less than my current kit and hiking it would require fewer lens changes.
@@Mr09260 I'm not sure who you're talking to. If this is intended to target my posts, I think you should read them again. I don't care to buy any new glass, for any mirrorless system. I've tested my existing lenses extensively on a 50 megapixel sensor, and there is no benefit from a resolution perspective to me buying new glass. In fact because I can't use new glass on my film bodies, which I care far more about than digital, I could not care less about z-glass or RF glass or Sony glass or whatever. I May opt in the future to adapt my Canon glass to other mirrorless systems. Oddly the EF glass I've seen adapted to Z works every bit as well as Nikon FX glass adapted to Nikon mirrorless. I also adapt several medium format lenses, etc. I have nothing against a Z Glass, in fact it looks quite impressive, but I would rather spend my money on other things, like Hasselblad 500 series lenses, for example.
Use a little of the matter that holds your skull, the Z mount with the mathematical data of its measurements is 17% larger than any other mount in FF format from any other brand, that is designed for even greater compatibility in the future, you can put in with an adapter any mount that has something FF, they also reduced the space between the crown that makes up the mount therefore in the future you can add more complex objectives with greater connections between the camera and the objective because in those 16mm of margin you can put technology that is about to be developed by any brand, literally Nikon has and always has had the most solid mount in terms of durability, compatibility, versatility and adaptation, Nikon under its name Nikkor has taken out legendary objectives of a quality that is absurd, we have a 400mm that works at F / 2.8, we have the mythical "Plena" being a 135mm at F / 1.8 that if you used it to record video you would realize the quality and the bokeh it generates, we have more legendary things, a 58mm that is crazy, nicknamed the "Noct" which is an F/0.95, can you understand that with professional quality? They were already in the seventies releasing gems like the NIKKOR N Auto 35mm f/1.4 lens that you can measure on a 2020 FF and it works, that you can put in an FTZ adapter and it works, if you are still hungry come for more, Nikon in lenses and vision in the future with its cameras and technology has a menu for days, yes it is worth it we endure the laughter for not having the best autofocus in video but be sure of one thing, when one day you want to take a photo that you cannot fail because the battery died, the viewfinder broke, the screen stopped working or you have problems with the memory cards, think that others will be taking that photo with an ugly, heavy and outdated Nikon.
3:59 False. Sony sells a camera called A1 which has 50 MP and 30 fps. Similarly Canon has R5 and R5 mk ii. A1 and R5 were the pioneering cameras that bought high fps with high MP count. Z9/Z8 was obviously a response to those cameras, and not a pioneering camera.
But generally speaking high megapixel cameras aren't the sort of cameras geared towards high frame rates. You really don't need it and when you think about it even cameras that shoot between eight and 10 frames a second is still more than enough if you press the shut up for three seconds and end up with 30 images and you can't get the image after 30 images. Can I just say you're no good at Photography? That's simple as that I cannot believe the ridiculous nature of cameras going to 40 and 50 frames a second it's just stupid.
@@prokremelskidezolati1426 I got his point tightly.You can't do 2530 frames.A second on a medium format camera and medium format.Shooters don't want those type of cameras
Sorry , but the GFX 100s Ii ... Blows it out of the water for image quality and I hide a zit.And it's a nice camera , but it's not a GFX 100s ii pr GFX 100 ii ...i went from a d850 to GFX ...oh thr GFX weighs less than a Z8 The Z8 is the second best camera ..equal to Canon R5 ii ... I tried it ..and its nice but fuji colours are so beautiful Wildlife and video..Z8 Everything else GFX
this video is interesting except for your language. no other photography channel has such offensive language. a more positive: interesting to compare your style w/ mine using the same subjects.
1.7 million channels with a photography hashtag, I looked at all 1.7 million channels and 7.1 million videos and only found 1 that had adult language. My search is over!
In fact, it's pretty good. Firmware 2.0 has significantly improved autofocus. As a former Sony Alpha 1 owner, I think it might be even better because it can automatically detect the type of subject, which Sony cameras can't do. Also, my Alpha 1 could never focus properly on bird's eyes. However, you have to use the Z8 differently than you would a Sony. With the Z8, 3D tracking is usually the best way to focus on your subject. This means you select what you want to focus on by holding down AF-on and then taking pictures. It also works well with human eyes, jumping on them when you start to move them close to an eye. Using area AF with auto-eye detection also works pretty well, but not quite as well as the Alpha 1. I'd call it "more than good enough."
@@stefan_beckerit’s very good. I also had the A1 and can agree with the older tech isn’t as good. I do have the A9III and I find them very similar and I know I can trust the Z8 to get the shots I’m looking for. The z6iii is close but not as and needs support from DXO raw still. The 135 Plena is one of my favorites and I believe that paired with the Z8 is phenomenal. I need to try the 180-600 with it as well as the Z8 is supposed by DXO.
@@Mr09260 One has nothing to do with the other. I also own a Sony A7rV, which has the _clearly_ "smarter" autofocus. By that I mean the ability to find eyes anywhere in the frame with almost unerring accuracy from any angle. Here the Nikon Z8 is clearly inferior. Compare it yourself if you don't believe me. When it comes to the speed of "tracking", the Z8/Z9 or the Sony Alpha 1 are obviously better than the A7rV. So what exactly is the "best" autofocus? The reliability of finding eyes? Then the Sony A7rV wins. When it comes to tracking, the Z8/Z9 is about as good as, say, an Alpha 1, but not "better". In short, the Z8 does _not_ have the best autofocus in the world. But it is pretty good, as I can attest as the owner of a Z8, an A7rV and a former owner of an Alpha 1.
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Love your matter of fact, straight up approach and your video style... Keep up the great work 😎👌👌
The Nikon Z8 was a great investment. My pictures are better now. This camera made me a better photographer. I only shoot in JPEG. Top notch video. ❤❤❤
Thanks for your helpful overview. I really appreciate your self-deprecating sense of humour.
The autofocus is amazing and fast.
I agree, this camera is fantastic
I'm still very happy with mine, brilliant camera.
I've been using my D750 for 9 years now and I wanted a cool new camera that can do lots of cool shit. There's my justification! LOL! Thanks for your review!
Honestly agree that the Z8 is the best hybrid on the market. It’s a splendid camera.
I would't mind a lighter version of that goodness like how Sony makes the C series! It'll save my shoulder and back on the gimbal!
Still using my D700!
P.S. 21MPs and 12fps is more than enough for EVERYTHING!
Superb review. Plain speaking and everything we want to know about. Thank you Sir. Now where do I find the four grand and a wee bit for the lenses.
Great video ! I have the Nikon Z6III and love it. Thinking about a Z9 when the prices keep dropping.
I'm looking into buying the z 6III as well but have been having the dilemma of spending 1400 moneys more on the z8 or not. I know the AF, resolution and shutter cover are good "pros" but the z6III has touch focus while in view finder mode, better ibis, flip screen and better low light performance. Plus, the money I'll save from buying the z8 will help when i buy the 180-600 🤔
@@emanueloliveira7997 Depending on where you're located and if you're okay with used or refurbished the Z8 here in the US is getting really close to the Z6III new price so the big differences are : megapixels = 45 vs 24 , AF = Z8 better/slightly better, 8K Video vs 6K video. I occasionally wish for the 45 megapixels but I haven't printed at a size to warrant that yet and 6K is fine and I'm still learning the autofocus so I think I'm making the errors not the camera
@@emanueloliveira7997 i have both the Z8 and the Z6 III and i bought the Z8 AFTER the Z6 III. The size, ergonomics, the sensor-covering shutter... It feels like it has a genie inside that tells you "trust me".
I love my Z8 and adapting my M lenses onto it. Now that i want to shoot film, am thinking of the F2T or F3T :D
Nice pictures I want same combination just worried about noise or grains in raw pictures due to higher mega pixels. I used Z7ii but in raw huge noise so need to do denoising. That again I don’t want to struggle. Suggest please regarding noise in low light or room light. Thank you ❤
Does using an FTZ adapter slow down the AF capability?
I haven't noticed any slowdown compared to the d850 at all
@@SprocketHoles I am using the D5, and I have felt the weight of being 60, but the Z8 overheating during long shoots makes me concerned! Please give me some advice - thank you.
I have considered switching from the Sony to the Nikon. Its on my short list (the other being a Leica SL2... so take from that what you will).
Why would you switch to a worse system? Sony has so many affordable 3rd party lenses and their bodies will always be ahead of Nikon by 3-5 years in everything.
@@Chopper153 I'm not getting into an argument about what kit I may or may not buy. I've done the research though and having used Sony for the last decade like the Nikon Z8 quite a bit. Cheers.
whats the memory card brand you using ?
either Sandisk or saberent. The 1TB is saberent, very good card.
Very interesting how a simple white border improves the picture 😂😂 very true that the best camera won't make you take better pictures, gives me pause in my bug-eyed search for a bargain z8 😅
I just came back from Tokyo, Fujiya Camera in Nakano had them for €2500-2700 used in perfect shape.
@@SprocketHoles That's about right!
Enjoyed your cracking review.
Yes 8k is better! Did you know there is still a debate that 4K is just as good lol. And it's a lot of people.
i have both z9 z8 sold the z8 battery on z9 superiour and allso full magnesium body not like the z8 which isnt the 800mm pf and the 400mm 2.8 balance perfect on the z9 not so good on the z8
I am a a7r4 user. Wonder if the z8 weight would be a deal breaker? Getting old
You’re never too old to get stronger.
As a Sony to Nikon migrant, it is noticeably heavier for sure, but the grip is bigger as well. depends on what lens you'll pair it with and how long you intend to carry it! Most Nikon zooms are pretty light weight.
You should get a7rV or a1. These cameras have better autofocus than any Nikon and comparable image quality (since Nikon buys sensors from Sony, can't make those themselves).
Personally, I switched from Nikon dslr to Canon R6 mk ii and I'm very happy.
I also bought 1 because i just wanted it. Now i must buy all the lenses. Just for them to sit on my shelf and look at. 😂
I prefer the R3, due to the flawless adapter capability for EOS glass, ergonomics, and high ISO DR. I don't even own RF glass, I just share with the EOS 3 film bodies.
I looked at going F6 + Z8, even rented a Z8, but the glass situation was less attractive. I have stabilized L zooms from 16-400mm, and stabilized 35mm F2. There were no native FX stabilized primes, and I wanted that for film.
Funnily enough, EOS glass can be adapted to all the other systems, but on the other hand Canon will not let you any other lenses in their mirrorless system. I'd rather have the autofocus M mount adapter for Z and potential for high quality glass from Sigma or Tamron than getting myself into a closed mount corner.
@@spaqin Yeah but I'm not using RF glass, so I'm not locked into anything. I have another 8 lenses for three other mounts that I regularly adapt to the R3. Canon also appears to be opening up the mount. I own a Pentax K70 and an Olympus EM5ii, both dedicated to scanning different film formats, and I owned a Sony A7R3 in the past. I landed on EF glass because it gave me a four lens do-everytging kit that spanned analog and digital.
Now, I am intrigued by the Nikon 28-400mm. I could do that with the new 50mm F1.4 and then an F6 with 28-300mm and Tamron 35mm VC. The total weight of that comes in less than my current kit and hiking it would require fewer lens changes.
The Z Lens line up is way better than the Canon offerings >> Trolls should go away
@@Mr09260 I'm not sure who you're talking to. If this is intended to target my posts, I think you should read them again. I don't care to buy any new glass, for any mirrorless system. I've tested my existing lenses extensively on a 50 megapixel sensor, and there is no benefit from a resolution perspective to me buying new glass. In fact because I can't use new glass on my film bodies, which I care far more about than digital, I could not care less about z-glass or RF glass or Sony glass or whatever. I May opt in the future to adapt my Canon glass to other mirrorless systems. Oddly the EF glass I've seen adapted to Z works every bit as well as Nikon FX glass adapted to Nikon mirrorless. I also adapt several medium format lenses, etc. I have nothing against a Z Glass, in fact it looks quite impressive, but I would rather spend my money on other things, like Hasselblad 500 series lenses, for example.
Use a little of the matter that holds your skull, the Z mount with the mathematical data of its measurements is 17% larger than any other mount in FF format from any other brand, that is designed for even greater compatibility in the future, you can put in with an adapter any mount that has something FF, they also reduced the space between the crown that makes up the mount therefore in the future you can add more complex objectives with greater connections between the camera and the objective because in those 16mm of margin you can put technology that is about to be developed by any brand, literally Nikon has and always has had the most solid mount in terms of durability, compatibility, versatility and adaptation, Nikon under its name Nikkor has taken out legendary objectives of a quality that is absurd, we have a 400mm that works at F / 2.8, we have the mythical "Plena" being a 135mm at F / 1.8 that if you used it to record video you would realize the quality and the bokeh it generates, we have more legendary things, a 58mm that is crazy, nicknamed the "Noct" which is an F/0.95, can you understand that with professional quality? They were already in the seventies releasing gems like the NIKKOR N Auto 35mm f/1.4 lens that you can measure on a 2020 FF and it works, that you can put in an FTZ adapter and it works, if you are still hungry come for more, Nikon in lenses and vision in the future with its cameras and technology has a menu for days, yes it is worth it we endure the laughter for not having the best autofocus in video but be sure of one thing, when one day you want to take a photo that you cannot fail because the battery died, the viewfinder broke, the screen stopped working or you have problems with the memory cards, think that others will be taking that photo with an ugly, heavy and outdated Nikon.
3:59 False. Sony sells a camera called A1 which has 50 MP and 30 fps. Similarly Canon has R5 and R5 mk ii.
A1 and R5 were the pioneering cameras that bought high fps with high MP count. Z9/Z8 was obviously a response to those cameras, and not a pioneering camera.
But generally speaking high megapixel cameras aren't the sort of cameras geared towards high frame rates. You really don't need it and when you think about it even cameras that shoot between eight and 10 frames a second is still more than enough if you press the shut up for three seconds and end up with 30 images and you can't get the image after 30 images. Can I just say you're no good at Photography? That's simple as that I cannot believe the ridiculous nature of cameras going to 40 and 50 frames a second it's just stupid.
Nikon kills sony now and will forever and ever. 😂
@@hansmclain6749 yep, with the "huge" 12% market share 🤣🤣🤣
@@nevvanclarke9225 you did not get his point...
@@prokremelskidezolati1426 I got his point tightly.You can't do 2530 frames.A second on a medium format camera and medium format.Shooters don't want those type of cameras
Sorry , but the GFX 100s Ii ... Blows it out of the water for image quality and I hide a zit.And it's a nice camera , but it's not a GFX 100s ii pr GFX 100 ii ...i went from a d850 to GFX ...oh thr GFX weighs less than a Z8
The Z8 is the second best camera ..equal to Canon R5 ii ...
I tried it ..and its nice but fuji colours are so beautiful
Wildlife and video..Z8
Everything else GFX
GFX is an amazing camera for landscape and portrait photography. Do you use it for landscape?
@Chopper153 I use it for landscapes portraits..events ..it's a great camera 100s ii
@@nevvanclarke9225 you are comparing medium format to 35mm lol
You are comparing z8 with a camera that is 2.5x more expensive you are an idiot dude.
Africa right?
I guess all the sensor cleaners manufactured are only sold in Africa...oh they are also sold and used in the U.S.A.
EVF is better than optical to be honest.
this video is interesting except for your language. no other photography channel has such offensive language. a more positive: interesting to compare your style w/ mine using the same subjects.
I do think it’s refreshing, all The boring ass photographers sound The same nowadays
The offensive stuff is why I’m here
1.7 million channels with a photography hashtag, I looked at all 1.7 million channels and 7.1 million videos and only found 1 that had adult language.
My search is over!
Wow 7:47 👍
I made an a3 print of that. its really nice in print.
"The jack of and master of all trades, The Nikon Z8" - except for the AF
In fact, it's pretty good. Firmware 2.0 has significantly improved autofocus. As a former Sony Alpha 1 owner, I think it might be even better because it can automatically detect the type of subject, which Sony cameras can't do. Also, my Alpha 1 could never focus properly on bird's eyes. However, you have to use the Z8 differently than you would a Sony. With the Z8, 3D tracking is usually the best way to focus on your subject. This means you select what you want to focus on by holding down AF-on and then taking pictures. It also works well with human eyes, jumping on them when you start to move them close to an eye. Using area AF with auto-eye detection also works pretty well, but not quite as well as the Alpha 1. I'd call it "more than good enough."
@@stefan_beckerit’s very good. I also had the A1 and can agree with the older tech isn’t as good. I do have the A9III and I find them very similar and I know I can trust the Z8 to get the shots I’m looking for. The z6iii is close but not as and needs support from DXO raw still. The 135 Plena is one of my favorites and I believe that paired with the Z8 is phenomenal. I need to try the 180-600 with it as well as the Z8 is supposed by DXO.
AF is best on the planet >> thats what got it Camera of the year !!!!
@@Mr09260 One has nothing to do with the other. I also own a Sony A7rV, which has the _clearly_ "smarter" autofocus. By that I mean the ability to find eyes anywhere in the frame with almost unerring accuracy from any angle. Here the Nikon Z8 is clearly inferior. Compare it yourself if you don't believe me. When it comes to the speed of "tracking", the Z8/Z9 or the Sony Alpha 1 are obviously better than the A7rV. So what exactly is the "best" autofocus? The reliability of finding eyes? Then the Sony A7rV wins. When it comes to tracking, the Z8/Z9 is about as good as, say, an Alpha 1, but not "better". In short, the Z8 does _not_ have the best autofocus in the world. But it is pretty good, as I can attest as the owner of a Z8, an A7rV and a former owner of an Alpha 1.
@@Mr09260 wake up you nikon fanboy, just finally wake up - YOU are not the planet! 🤣🤣🤣