Entirely true, one man was able to capture so many moods. It's hard to believe regard 10 is from the same set as the 1st regard. I was just commenting on Messiaen's harmony in general, he brings out colours that other composers don't how to make.
This is a natural result of his favouring major and minor triads while using, for his scales, modes of limited transposition. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modes_of_limited_transposition#Messiaen's_list The mode he used most was his mode 2. In many pieces he coupled that with F# major (as a couple of people have noted in comments here). Not just the 1st regard but in works as early as Le banquet céleste and as late as the Turangalila symphony.
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It's still very influenced by Debussy, after all, Messiaen was obsessed with his music (always carrying around a copy of Pelleas et Melisande in his youth). I Think it's fair to say that he's the true "heir" to Debussy when it comes to the idea of harmony and musical "colour"
I rarely like vocal works or Messiaen’s works. Trying to be more welcoming to him and other contemporary composers lately. This was a stellar find, my god.
Thank you for posting these "Trois mélodies". I just had one question: in "Le sourire" bar 8, on the return of the "theme" on the parte of piano, we hear an E natural when it should be flat... Is the error coming from the publisher or the musician? Thank you in advance for your reply !
1:44 the piano in measure 22 (a bar of 2/4) looks a little weird. I counted 5 eighth note values instead of 4. Is it just an approximation ? Or is it a misprint? A flag missing somewhere?
@@nicholas72611 get over it. it’s hard enough for people to get into Messiaen’s music without his fans being close-minded, judgmental, condescending pricks about it all the time.
@@Varooooooom I have to say I agree with the comment of MrHestichs and therefore denounce nicholas72611's remark, but why do you have to accuse Messiaenists of being utter buffoons...?
Why can't he ever go 5 minutes without evoking some freaking birds or Jesus? XD Nice romantic poems, I thought until the last one. The Lord has entered the chat....
@@verslaflamme666 it's common practice in French lyric diction to use rolled R versus the uvular R largely because of the impact the uvular trill can have on singing technique (impacting positioning of the tongue and soft palate, for example). Some also feel that the rolled R projects better in singing than the uvular R. Régine Crespin actually despised the use of the uvular R in sung French, and Lord knows she knew a thing or two about the language ;) - even with this tradition, many teachers and singers in France today are now advocating for the use of the uvular R in sung French.
0:01 Pourquoi?
2:13 Le sourire
3:53 La fiancée perdue
thank you so much for this
Messiaen's vocal writing is incredible
Incredible chord choices, no composer has a comparable harmonic language. Same goes for the 1st of the 20 regards.
Entirely true, one man was able to capture so many moods. It's hard to believe regard 10 is from the same set as the 1st regard. I was just commenting on Messiaen's harmony in general, he brings out colours that other composers don't how to make.
actually there are some debussy reminiscences (specially the first one, with those chords at 1:24).
pero aguante el messi obvio
This is a natural result of his favouring major and minor triads while using, for his scales, modes of limited transposition. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modes_of_limited_transposition#Messiaen's_list
The mode he used most was his mode 2. In many pieces he coupled that with F# major (as a couple of people have noted in comments here). Not just the 1st regard but in works as early as Le banquet céleste and as late as the Turangalila symphony.
It's still very influenced by Debussy, after all, Messiaen was obsessed with his music (always carrying around a copy of Pelleas et Melisande in his youth). I Think it's fair to say that he's the true "heir" to Debussy when it comes to the idea of harmony and musical "colour"
I love the 1st regard, but you see, i dont think its just him, its also the magic of his symmetrical modes, that does the job
0:24 This part is just one thing... its extraordinarily beautiful
Pour quoi....someone dislike this trois melodies?. I can't understand it. Beautiful, simple, yet wonderful harmonies.
This was over 50 years before his Saint Francois. He was only 21 or 22. Both of these facts amaze me, each in their own way.
I can hear Ravel's influence! specially in harmonic choices, Lovely
I hear more of Debussy's influence
I hear both
And it preochoes poulenc :))
thank you !
Reminds me of Ravel's Scheherazade, beautiful
That's something special 🎹
Unbelievable bird voices with Messian accompanied
Absolutely gorgeous 😌
He was my current age 😍
Olivier Messiaen Trois Melodies- piękny dżwięczny sopran Sylwii Mc Nair i piekny utwór
I rarely like vocal works or Messiaen’s works. Trying to be more welcoming to him and other contemporary composers lately. This was a stellar find, my god.
1:26-1:36 poulenc's la voix humaine
Goat
Reminds me to Lili Boulanger's style
Thank you for posting these "Trois mélodies". I just had one question: in "Le sourire" bar 8, on the return of the "theme" on the parte of piano, we hear an E natural when it should be flat... Is the error coming from the publisher or the musician? Thank you in advance for your reply !
The E natural seems correct to me. The major sixth chord with sharp 11 is a very common chord in Messiaen's music.
Messiaen is the goat
really pretty chords towards the end of the first piece, reminded me of Vincent Persichetti,,,,, would like to hear a violin replace the voice
Tyler Torro Yes. A separate version. Let’s still keep vocal
1:44 the piano in measure 22 (a bar of 2/4) looks a little weird. I counted 5 eighth note values instead of 4. Is it just an approximation ? Or is it a misprint? A flag missing somewhere?
Looks right to me: 1/8 rest + 1/64 rest + 15/64 notes + 1/8 rest = 1/2 in the middle staff and 1/8 rest +1/32 rest +7/32 notes + 1/8 rest = 1/2 in the upper staff
ahhh, in the middle staff I overlooked the 8th rest beneath the dotted quarter. thanks for taking the time, to discuss the time.
Could it also be good with a baritone voice?
No, it's no longer art when sung with a baritone voice..
@@toothlesstoe and what about a tenor voice?
of course, any voice can sing this music if they do it well.
@@toothlesstoe ouch .
Might even sound better, since the piano would be doubling at the octave rather than in unison
Y the third. Note ,you can identify composer
Eso es lo que todos nos preguntamos: "purcuá??? PURCUÁ????!!!"
This is blowing me away! These chord changes sounds like Herbie Hancock or Jacob Collier. Messiaen is where it started!
MrHestichs yesssss jacob collier
this comment made me irrationally angry
@@nicholas72611 Same
@@nicholas72611 get over it. it’s hard enough for people to get into Messiaen’s music without his fans being close-minded, judgmental, condescending pricks about it all the time.
@@Varooooooom I have to say I agree with the comment of MrHestichs and therefore denounce nicholas72611's remark, but why do you have to accuse Messiaenists of being utter buffoons...?
4:55
0:05 that was pretty unexpected
I mean, it is Messiaen.
Why can't he ever go 5 minutes without evoking some freaking birds or Jesus? XD
Nice romantic poems, I thought until the last one. The Lord has entered the chat....
Ok
oh no how dare he have religious beliefs and let them influence his music
Singer's French is ghastly.
...But has a beautiful voice.
Boo-hoo?
@@fingerhorn4 Idk about that, really.
yeah I was wondering why so many singers rolls their R sounds in French when French Rs do not have that kind of sound...
@@verslaflamme666 it's common practice in French lyric diction to use rolled R versus the uvular R largely because of the impact the uvular trill can have on singing technique (impacting positioning of the tongue and soft palate, for example). Some also feel that the rolled R projects better in singing than the uvular R. Régine Crespin actually despised the use of the uvular R in sung French, and Lord knows she knew a thing or two about the language ;) - even with this tradition, many teachers and singers in France today are now advocating for the use of the uvular R in sung French.