Olivier Messiaen - L'Ascension, orchestra (1933)

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  • @Cmaj7
    @Cmaj7  6 лет назад +46

    00:01 I - Majesté du Christ demandant sa gloire à son Père
    05:39 II - Alleluias sereins d’une âme qui désire le ciel
    11:48 III - Alleluia sur la trompette, alleluia sur la cymbale
    17:36 IV - Prière du Christ montant vers son Père

  • @stephenhill2404
    @stephenhill2404 4 года назад +199

    I had the honour to shake Messaien's hand after a concert in London back in the 1980's. He was so nice and humble but I didn't know what to say to him and my French was a bit rusty. He also signed a CD for me which I still have. Great moment in my life.

    • @LaurentPingaultLyon
      @LaurentPingaultLyon 4 года назад +8

      Vous avez la chance d'être compris dans votre langue maternelle à travers le monde entier. Mais il y a ce revers de la médaille.

    •  3 года назад +18

      Lucky!! My father had a similar encounter that Im really jealous of, he met and shook hands with Igor Stravinsky back in the 60s

    • @智慧蛇
      @智慧蛇 3 года назад +2

      WOW!

    • @PhucNguyen-yn7ng
      @PhucNguyen-yn7ng 2 года назад +3

      You're so lucky! Happy for you!

    • @pierreminvielle
      @pierreminvielle Год назад +3

      The hand which wrote that masterpiece

  • @thekathal
    @thekathal 5 лет назад +76

    Attention everyone, there is an absolutely amazing organ version of this that messiaen wrote afterwards.

    • @ghmus7
      @ghmus7 5 лет назад +3

      I think he wrote the organ first?

    • @ghmus7
      @ghmus7 5 лет назад +6

      Yes I recall you are right.

    • @enriquesanchez2001
      @enriquesanchez2001 4 года назад +10

      @@ghmus7 NO. L'Ascension ("The Ascension") is a piece for orchestra, composed by Olivier Messiaen in 1932-33. In 1933-34, Messiaen made a version for solo organ.

    • @dr.brianjudedelimaphd743
      @dr.brianjudedelimaphd743 4 года назад +5

      The organ version is out of this world...

    • @conw_y
      @conw_y 7 месяцев назад +3

      @@dr.brianjudedelimaphd743 It's incredible, I find it in some ways more powerful than the orchestra version!

  • @andycarter9845
    @andycarter9845 Год назад +8

    Gateway Messaien, wonderfully accessible. But can lead you down the rabbit hole... Still love to come back to this piece.

  • @ghmus7
    @ghmus7 5 лет назад +51

    The orchestration is a revelation.

  • @looney1023
    @looney1023 Год назад +8

    6:37 The dovetailing from English Horn to Clarinet is so seamless it's incredible.

  • @MegaCirse
    @MegaCirse 4 года назад +23

    En dépit de sa diversité stylistique, Messiaen était avant tout un compositeur d'esthétique expressionniste, toujours proche du drame, de la profondeur, de l'angoisse et la vision profonde et tourmentée de la vie qui semble émaner de la métaphysique de l'homme comme de sa même nature profonde

    • @brynbstn
      @brynbstn 8 месяцев назад

      In his titles only. If he truly did what you say he would be as popular as Beethoven

  • @chronochromie772
    @chronochromie772 2 года назад +28

    10:26 is one of the most beautiful moments in all of music.

    • @hector_mattenheimer
      @hector_mattenheimer 2 года назад +4

      It is indeed! It sounds like the skies are clearing, and light emerges, opening the doors of heaven to humanity.

    • @steveegallo3384
      @steveegallo3384 Год назад +2

      @chronochromie772 -- Yes.....the moment (10:26) IS sensational.....BRAVO from Acapulco!

    • @KaikhosruShapurjiMedtner
      @KaikhosruShapurjiMedtner 2 месяца назад

      Absolutely!

  • @KrystofDreamJourney
    @KrystofDreamJourney 5 лет назад +23

    Awesome piece ! Early work of this French Music Master, that incorporates lots of his theoretical works on the subject of symmetrical scales of limited transposition. For us-jazz musicians Messiaen is a composer and theoretician of a very high importance.

    • @alejandrom.4680
      @alejandrom.4680 5 лет назад +6

      Krystof Srebrakowski Messiaen, Rautavaara, Ravel, Ornstein, Debussy, Xenakis, very influential composers on the rest of us, the next generation of composers.

    • @KrystofDreamJourney
      @KrystofDreamJourney 5 лет назад

      Alejandro M. Yes ! I love all of them. We even played Rautavaara’s “Cantus Arcticus” with our local Breward Symphony Orchestra few years ago (I did celesta part, but also thoroughly analyzed the score). I would include Penderecki and Lutoslawski to your list :-) - yes, I’m Polish myself...

    • @alejandrom.4680
      @alejandrom.4680 5 лет назад +1

      Krystof Srebrakowski Yeah, totally agreed. Holy, hearing in live Canctus Articus and even perform it is probably one of the best things that I could do in my life. Btw, Lutoslawski and Penderecki are revolutionary composers, I love their individual characteristic things. Randomness and powerful complexity in the other hand, such a damn good composers they were. I would like to add Vivier, Poulenc and Emilio d’Cavalieri. The last one is a Renaissance composer which used microtonality, thing that I love. Also, Vivier used it, and I believe a lot of composers of the 1960+. Plus, Stockhausen, the first electronic music ever made.

    • @KrystofDreamJourney
      @KrystofDreamJourney 5 лет назад

      Alejandro M. Yes, playing Cantus Arcticus was an awesome experience. When Our conductor Chris Confessore got the score from the publisher, it came along with the CD of pre-recorded birds performance ! He conducted the piece to the CD being played on stage through the set of stereo speakers. So the speakers became an orchestra “members” playing the birds sounds. The mating, the pure love, nature and innocence brought the tears to all of us - musicians. It was so moving... Especially nowadays, knowing that we - humans are doing absolutely everything to destroy our planet and the delicate balance of Nature...

    • @KrystofDreamJourney
      @KrystofDreamJourney 5 лет назад

      Alejandro M. BTW : I absolutely love Poulenc. I performed with the choir (as a baritone, and the rehearsal pianist) Poulenc’s Stabat Mater. Absolutely amazing work ! That was back in the late 1980s, when I was at music Conservatory in Poland.

  • @oscargill423
    @oscargill423 3 года назад +11

    This may be the most beautiful dissonant music I've ever heard.

  • @yagiz885
    @yagiz885 3 года назад +10

    First movement reminds me the last section before the coda of Turangalila. Messiaen was a genius!

  • @husastra
    @husastra 7 лет назад +41

    Wow, that's a great piece! Thank you very much for the video!

  • @gregorypatriciaandjiyajais8819
    @gregorypatriciaandjiyajais8819 3 года назад +3

    one of my fav messiaen s pieces the quartet and twenty regards i could not live with out

  • @leopoldcat5548
    @leopoldcat5548 6 лет назад +9

    Thank you so much for posting this lovely piece with the score. A real treat!

  • @Kobzar3374
    @Kobzar3374 5 лет назад +4

    Wow. Thank you for sharing this impressive beauty.

  • @conw_y
    @conw_y 4 года назад +2

    4:40 onward ... I love how this coda perfectly resolves the whole movement!

  • @harmonicparadox2055
    @harmonicparadox2055 5 лет назад +10

    Such great orchestration! Reminds me of Ravel.

  • @jochanaan58
    @jochanaan58 Год назад +1

    Even in this early work, Messiaen's genius shines in power.

  • @cazazzadan
    @cazazzadan 7 лет назад +10

    I prefer the "Transports de joie" of the organ version, but this recording was my first contact with the piece, almost ten years ago. In either version, the sound can be so powerful as to be overwhelming. Messiaen's sense of dynamic scale is very keen, even in an early work like this.

  • @iangaredunord6199
    @iangaredunord6199 2 года назад +4

    Interesting use of 'Flutes of Limited Audition' in the scoring at the end of the 1st movement

  • @ikurasake
    @ikurasake 7 лет назад +6

    Enchanting.

  • @mathiassehn9788
    @mathiassehn9788 Год назад

    Ein wunderbares Werk in einer technisch einwandfreien Aufnahme. Die Orchestermusiker sicherlich brilliant.
    Mit der Interpretation bekunde ich hingegen Mühe. Die Modernität der Komposition, seinem aufwärtsstrebenden Duktus hin zum Göttlichen, wird meiner Empfindung und Beobachtung der Partitur nach durch den Dirigenten zuwenig Aufmerksamkeit gewidmet. Sie wendet eine klassische Aufführungspraxis an für gewohnte Ohren und verpasst damit die Chance, Spannungsbögen bis zum Ende durchzuführen. Das Werk zersplittert und wird langweiliger, üblicher. Dies fällt insbesondere da auf, wo Atemzeichen in den Noten stehen. Häufig wird eine Pause eingeführt, der nächste Takt erfolgt zu spät oder Achtel und nachfolgende fallen in der Spannungslinie ab. Die Dynamik entspricht oft nicht der Schreibung. Ritardandi und Accelerandi werden ohne Bedarf eingeführt.
    Die Streicher könnten weniger Vibrato aufweisen und dafür Zäsuren klarer darstellen.
    Vielen Dank für den Upload. Meine Kritik versteht sich ohne Kenntnis des Autographen oder Variationen.

  • @routeman680
    @routeman680 2 года назад +5

    Lord, this is beautiful. I had never heard the orchestral version. Theology in musical form. Hearing this, I believe.

  • @stefanobertuol8660
    @stefanobertuol8660 5 лет назад +1

    Non conoscevo la versione orchestrale. È meravigliosa!

  • @hagerup64
    @hagerup64 5 лет назад +2

    Great music,favourite !👍👍💙💙

  • @juliadrake8878
    @juliadrake8878 3 года назад +9

    This is like listening to the book of revelation 💀 absolutely incredible

    • @chronochromie772
      @chronochromie772 Год назад

      The Ascension of Jesus is chronicled by Luke in his book of the Acts of the Apostles…

  • @EsperanzaLaborde
    @EsperanzaLaborde 5 месяцев назад

    Emocionante en Perfecion

  • @henrygingercat
    @henrygingercat 6 лет назад +5

    Fascinating. The seeds of Turangalila have been sewn.

  • @グレン-t3c
    @グレン-t3c Месяц назад

    🙏BLESS🙏

  • @davidrehak3539
    @davidrehak3539 7 лет назад +5

    Olivier Messiaen:L'Ascencion (A felemelkedés)
    1.Majesté du Christ demandant sa gloire à son Père (Krisztus méltósága az Atya dicsőségét követelve, Molto lento e maestoso) 00:00
    2.Alleluias sereins d'une âme qui désire le ciel (Derűs alleluja egy lélek, amely vágyik az égre, Non troppo moderato e chiaro - Un poco 'più lento e teneramente - Lieve e graduale aumento del movimento - Primo movimento - Un poco più vivace di un inizio) 05:39
    3.Alleluia sur la trompette, alleluia sur la cymbale (Alleluja a trombitán, alleluja a cintányéron, Presto - rallentando - Presto - rallentando molto - Presto - Piú vivo - ancora piú vivace - rallentando molto) 11:48
    4.Prière du Christ montant vers son Père (Krisztus imádsága az Atyja felé emelkedik,Estremamente lento, con sentimento e solenne) 17:36
    Lengyel Nemzeti Rádió Szimfonikus Zenekara
    Vezényel:Antoni Wit

    • @hagerup64
      @hagerup64 5 лет назад +1

      A mennybemenetel !

  • @Sujkhgfrwqqnvf
    @Sujkhgfrwqqnvf 4 года назад +3

    15:19 From that fff section and onwards, the Ebs of timpani are a 1/2 tone down

    • @paulybarr
      @paulybarr 4 года назад

      Yes, they do sound flat.

  • @kernelstudios8996
    @kernelstudios8996 5 лет назад

    very good piece. thank you

  • @Maharani1991
    @Maharani1991 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you for the upload.

  • @Tizohip
    @Tizohip 7 лет назад +4

    Me inspirei muito nestas harmônias para criar minhas músicas orquestrais.

    • @Cunhacomposer
      @Cunhacomposer Год назад

      Com certeza! Eu diria que Olivier Messiaen é um dos grandes orquestradores do mundo, junto com R.Strauss, Mahler, Schönberg e se você for vê até mesmo P.Boulez.
      Grandes inspirações para as novas mentes musicais!

  • @pudelkern8835
    @pudelkern8835 6 лет назад +12

    Much more better than the organ version!!!

    • @rosiefay7283
      @rosiefay7283 2 года назад

      The orchestral tone-colours are better than the organ's imitations, I grant you. But the organ version's third movement, Transports de joie, is better than the orchestral version's third movement. The orchestral version shows too much influence of Dukas. In many places the music is loud, exciting and fairly fast but doesn't succeed in going anywhere, so it ultimately disappoints. By contrast, Transports de joie shows a maturer style, in which Messiaen succeeds in conveying a sense of ecstasy.

  • @jessturner6886
    @jessturner6886 Год назад

    The brass is so great.

  • @川口健太郎-m5e
    @川口健太郎-m5e Год назад +1

    11:48
    トランペットのアレルヤだけが私のお気に入り
    25歳の作品
    メシアンは若い頃が才能があった

  • @EsperanzaLaborde
    @EsperanzaLaborde 5 месяцев назад

    Fantastico

  • @arthur_g8393
    @arthur_g8393 Год назад +1

    15:59 Cello/Bass excerpt here

  • @PaulSmith-qs1es
    @PaulSmith-qs1es 3 года назад +2

    well, i like it from the first chord.

  • @DavidA-ps1qr
    @DavidA-ps1qr Год назад +2

    This orchestral version works as well orchestrated as it does when played on the organ. Well it would, musical genius, like J S Bach, can be transposed into many idioms.

  • @murielrmr4680
    @murielrmr4680 Месяц назад

    Illisible

  • @cordeiropascoal
    @cordeiropascoal 6 лет назад +6

    Please upload Et exspecto resurrectionem mortuorum
    pretty please

  • @川口健太郎-m5e
    @川口健太郎-m5e 10 месяцев назад +1

    後年のメシアンは理屈っぽくなり過ぎた
    若い頃のメシアンは素直に作曲した

  • @PointyTailofSatan
    @PointyTailofSatan 5 лет назад

    Wait! Is that a major chord at 2:50?

    • @Cmaj7
      @Cmaj7  5 лет назад +9

      There's a major chord at 0:12 and a lot more...

  • @handledav
    @handledav Год назад +2

    ascend

  • @yrockerboy
    @yrockerboy 2 года назад +2

    05:39 when you enter an alien world

    • @CrankyRayy
      @CrankyRayy Год назад

      Any film whenever there’s some desert wasteland trading post scene

  • @enriquesanchez2001
    @enriquesanchez2001 4 года назад +4

    Feels like DEBUSSY or perhaps RAVEL in many places... may be a characteristic of the modes he uses or something else?

    • @FleuveAlphee
      @FleuveAlphee 2 года назад +2

      The Debussy influence is even more patent in the (wonderful) Preludes (starting with the title).

    • @DavidA-ps1qr
      @DavidA-ps1qr Год назад +1

      It might just have something to do with the fact that both composers you mention happen to be French.

  • @brharley0546
    @brharley0546 7 лет назад +8

    Can someone suggest beautiful pieces by messiaen like this one? I find most of them too dissonant

    • @Cmaj7
      @Cmaj7  7 лет назад +1

      ruclips.net/video/x0__tgrjTkc/видео.html

    • @Wildbillhitchcock
      @Wildbillhitchcock 6 лет назад

      BrHarley054 Fête des belles eaux, le banquet celeste, la nativité movs. 5 and 9...

    • @kenbusch2139
      @kenbusch2139 6 лет назад +1

      This piece ends on a dissonance.

    • @jamesmaclean3222
      @jamesmaclean3222 6 лет назад +2

      Try angel of light by Rautavarra

    • @renep9968
      @renep9968 6 лет назад +5

      You can look at the date. This is an older work. The later messiaen is more dissonant. Try his Poems pour Mi (1937), Trois Mélodies (1930)
      , Vocalise-Étude (1935), La Nativite du Seigneur (1935), O Sacrum Convivium! (1937)
      . Good luck.

  • @MagoLerio
    @MagoLerio 6 лет назад

    Edition Durand? :-)))

  • @gdeleonmusic
    @gdeleonmusic 6 лет назад +2

    Thanks for the upload! Is there anywhere I could find a pdf?

  • @nestorhernandez2150
    @nestorhernandez2150 4 года назад +1

    ¿Por qué perras ponen un comercial a media obra? 😡

  • @musicfriendly12
    @musicfriendly12 6 лет назад +2

    Breathtaking piece awesome musicians, a pity they apparently don't know how to play pianissimo...

  • @conw_y
    @conw_y 8 месяцев назад +1

    Anyone who thinks Messiaen is atonal, I challenge you: listen to the last movement!

    • @ThatOneGuyRAR
      @ThatOneGuyRAR 7 месяцев назад

      Messiaen writes in varying degrees of tonality. Some of his stuff is truly atonal, especially with modes of limited transposition, some of it is not at all. To anyone who thinks Messiaen is entirely atonal, I challenge you: listen to the last movement!

  • @BenEmberley
    @BenEmberley 2 года назад

    No Transport de Joie?

  • @Z7y631
    @Z7y631 6 лет назад +2

    to me some parts of the 2nd movement almost sounds like Spanish music.

  • @larsjohansson7954
    @larsjohansson7954 3 года назад +1

    Very strange way of writing ties, not from the first note, but backwards from the second note! That makes it harder for the musician to quickly recognise when a note is tied over.
    I guess he has some good reason. Or he just wanted to be original...

    • @FreakieFan
      @FreakieFan 2 года назад

      Might just be a way of printing chosen by the publisher. I don't know.

    • @chronochromie772
      @chronochromie772 Год назад

      That is actually a practice committed to by the composer himself as seen in his manuscript.

  • @davealbrecht12
    @davealbrecht12 6 лет назад +1

    Messiaen and Bach...probably the only composers who's ORGANworks get transcribed for orchestra instead of the other way around.

    • @the_number_e
      @the_number_e 6 лет назад +13

      Except that this was originally an orchestral work that Messiaen later transcribed for organ.

    • @neo-eclesiastul9386
      @neo-eclesiastul9386 5 лет назад +3

      pianoboy You need to be pretty fucked up to compare 2 composers who lived in 2 different eras, in 2 different countries, and most of all, they had 2 different aesthetic principles.

    • @roadsofjoy43
      @roadsofjoy43 5 лет назад

      @@neo-eclesiastul9386 salut moldovene :)

    • @scriabinismydog2439
      @scriabinismydog2439 4 года назад +1

      @@neo-eclesiastul9386 ironically I find Messiaen's music to be similar to Bach's to some degree

    • @tailleferrestan
      @tailleferrestan 4 года назад

      @@scriabinismydog2439, in what way? That's an interesting comparison :)))

  • @zewensenpai
    @zewensenpai 3 года назад +2

    Olivier Messiaen - L'Ascension, orchestra (1933)

    • @fabriziocaragiulo4812
      @fabriziocaragiulo4812 2 года назад

      Orchestra: Polish National Radio Symphony Orchestra conducted by Antoni Wit

    • @stacia6678
      @stacia6678 2 года назад

      00:00 I - Majesté du Christ demandant sa gloire à son Père
      05:39 II - Alleluias sereins d’une âme qui désire le ciel
      11:48 III - Alleluia sur la trompette, alleluia sur la cymbale
      17:36 IV - Prière du Christ montant vers son Père

  • @leandrofalconitangari
    @leandrofalconitangari 6 лет назад +2

    Gosh, that two first chords are really French

  • @Tizohip
    @Tizohip 7 лет назад

    omg today

  • @leonardoiglesias2394
    @leonardoiglesias2394 7 месяцев назад

    Pretentious rubish.

    • @Iumine
      @Iumine 6 месяцев назад +1

      as if theres no chance it could be more than that

    • @pianxtremeyt
      @pianxtremeyt 3 месяца назад

      doubt you could write anything better

    • @leonardoiglesias2394
      @leonardoiglesias2394 3 месяца назад

      @@pianxtremeyt yes. True. I cant cook but I also know when a cook cant cook

    • @pianxtremeyt
      @pianxtremeyt 3 месяца назад

      ​@@leonardoiglesias2394well, it's clear that you must have the intelligence of a rotten spud and the education level of a 5-year-old because how else can one explain your utter lack of understanding of what real music is? I mean, it's obvious that your taste in music is as pitiful as your attempts at sharing negative opinions to try and insult actual successful people from the past. I bet you're one of those people who think that anime and video game music count as legitimate genres. Newsflash, Shit-Einstein, they don't. So please do us all a favor and take your uneducated, tone-deaf self and fck off. Real music lovers don't need your ignorant opinions polluting the airwaves.