Lili Boulanger is a great composer, forgotten, underestimated, ignored, even in France. She, as many women composers, ought to be known and listenened. Quelle beauté, quel lyrisme, quel talent !!! Merci de la faire découvrir. Pure bliss...
Exactly, first time I heard about her was through an American RUclipsr. In France, she's completely forgotten, which is profoundly sad considering the talent and creativity she had at such a young age.
@@Sikanda. nul n'est prophète en son pays....mais c'est vrai c'est même assez honteux d'un point de vue de la musique cette totale absence de quelque programmation que ce soit dans les salles.... c'est une musique prenante, d'une orchestration forte...je me suis demandé si les textes, de tradition hébraïque, pouvaient y être pour quelque chose.... l'antisémitisme est chez lui en France, hélas....je ne sais pas.. c'est une idée, comme ça...
She was a genius. The way she voices those complex harmonies and resolves them to a matter of taste and vision that many composers never had, no matter how much they studied. And you can tell she's a composer who studied a lot, but also you can tell her harmonic vision was far ahead of her time.
This is one of the best choral-orchestral masterpieces ever written! What a profound chord progressions, orchestration and counterpoint but the whole sound is so subtile and clear.
Every time I remember how old Lili was was when she died, I feel gutted all over again. I can't help but wonder about all the symphonies, the pieces that she'd never write, the people who won't notice her presence or realise her brilliance...(it's harder to ignore an active, living composer than a dead one). The influence she would have made in classical music. It's such a damn shame.
@@thewalmer7942 To be fair, George Enescu wrote some incredible music when he was a teenager but while i like his mature work very much he really didn't go as far as you'd have expected him to go. Prodigies are often like this, they rarely turn out like Mozart, who actually matured into one of the finest composers in history to the point his fame as a child prodigy is a red herring considering his real value as a composer begun in his adult years (say, from the Haydn quartets and onward).
Be a woman. Sad that even in today’s somewhat dying classical world, people only latch on to those known as “the greats” (Mozart, Bach, Beethoven), instead of searching and discovering those others who are lesser known such as Lili. Over the past week I’ve become obsessed with her works, and when I finish my conducting degree, I’d love to program her works some time
@@Composer_Piggy excellent idea really ! You are right people repeat and repeat always to listen to the same things and the theater to program the same thing....
we're literally talking about her, how can you say "forgotten"? That's more that can be said about most composers throughout history, the majority of which were truly forgotten.
you guys need to stop with this... she's not forgotten at all, her music is played, studied and loved across the globe, and her sister was one of the most prominent teachers in the 20th century... they'll never be "forgotten"
@@NahreSol i did not expect to see you here, but i'm really glad that you are! i hope that you talk about more underrated composers on your channel so that more people will know about them.
People sometimes complain about the RUclips recommendations that have been offered. I had not heard this piece before nor had I heard of the composer but thankfully that situation has been put right. Thanks be to God Alhamdulilla
Boulanger’a Psalm 24 reminds me of heaven, her Psalm 129 is equivalent to some kind of purgatory, and her Psalm 130 is a pitch perfect depiction of hell.
Her last two compositions, D'un Matin de Printemps and D'un Soir Triste are pretty close to a symphonic piece. Short in length but impressive in scale.
I find her music to be quite severe. Her originality begs a strong emotional response which she certainly gets from me. She is a giant among other of music's most influential French composers such as Debussy, Ravel, Poulenc, to name a few. I'm sure she was a most wonderful person whom I will never forget.
Really excited to be performing this work along with another of hers at this years Adelaide Festival of Arts with the Adelaide Symphony Orchestra! As a low bass, it's quite a challenge but what truly ravishing writing and a great loss to the musical world that she died too young.
Wow. This is incredible. Too incredible to describe in a RUclips comment. Also love the choice to add the SA parts singing the chords at the end. Felt like we had arrived in heaven to a soft choir of angels.
There's a lot of feminist whining surrounding this great composer which truly desecrates her achievements reducing it to a "woman vs. patriarchy" narrative. Boulanger's greatest enemy was unfortunately her illness, not man. She was a respected and promising young composer, valued by the most influential people in the Paris Conservatory. She even won a Prix de Rome. People like to say that she was forgotten and yet we're still talking about her after more than a century, which is more than what can be said about most composers throughout history.
Extraordinary! I wonder if anyone can tell me how the almost ethereal, humming effect is produced in the orchestra at 6:42, after the male choir sings "L'Eternel"?
husastra Oh that is odd. Probably reduced for solo baritone and so they left out the small bit of SA action since it's part of the orchestral texture covered by the accompaniment.
The score as shown is confusing as our vocal score is for both tenors and basses singing the same melody- the female voices come in at the end and it's not unlike the wordless female chorus from Holst's "The Planets". So beautiful.
Sorry, I really didn't mean to say "American". I had just listened to some Charles Ives and it reminded me of some new kind of break from traditional forms and harmonies, not unlike the Impressionists. But even more advanced. Never heard of her before. Thanks and sorry. CVD
Charles Davis: Copeland studied with her, as did Elliott Carter, David Diamond, Virgil Thomson, and Walter Piston. So your aural faculties are in good working order.
Dear Forestier; Thanks for you insights. It didn't really seem French to me. She must have been quite a lady (teacher) and 70 years ahead of time. This is the first time I've heard any of her works. Thrilling. CVD
Something slightly off with the audio file. The piece and the recording are fine. But it sounds overcompressed, possibly even noise cleaned, which creates an unwanted electronic buzz. It might be the fault of the recording, an old one perhaps, rather than the file upload. A piece certainly worth looking up in a more correct form.
This sublim music shows that even in a mental sewer like feminism today, beautiful and astounding plants can bloom ? ..... Cette compositrice faisait honneur et devait rendre Debussy fier d'être son égal !
@@GUILLOM this music gives me the impression of reading Alice in Wonderland / On the Other Side of the Mirror (Lewis Caroll) with my ears ... Same perceptions, same understandings and encodings.. With great and rare intelligence, each listening is a constantly renewed state of fullness❤
Lili Boulanger is a great composer, forgotten, underestimated, ignored, even in France. She, as many women composers, ought to be known and listenened. Quelle beauté, quel lyrisme, quel talent !!! Merci de la faire découvrir. Pure bliss...
Yeah, and she's amazing. Sadly she died so young. I believe that if she lived more time, she would be more known
Exactly, first time I heard about her was through an American RUclipsr. In France, she's completely forgotten, which is profoundly sad considering the talent and creativity she had at such a young age.
@@Sikanda. nul n'est prophète en son pays....mais c'est vrai c'est même assez honteux d'un point de vue de la musique cette totale absence de quelque programmation que ce soit dans les salles.... c'est une musique prenante, d'une orchestration forte...je me suis demandé si les textes, de tradition hébraïque, pouvaient y être pour quelque chose.... l'antisémitisme est chez lui en France, hélas....je ne sais pas.. c'est une idée, comme ça...
Je viens à peine de la découvrir... c'est fantastique; il n'y a pas assez de mots pour qualifier la qualité de son oeuvre.
Forgotten?! She's revered across the entire globe!
Gone, but she will never be forgotten.
Non, elle sera immortelle...c'est trop beau...
She was a genius. The way she voices those complex harmonies and resolves them to a matter of taste and vision that many composers never had, no matter how much they studied. And you can tell she's a composer who studied a lot, but also you can tell her harmonic vision was far ahead of her time.
This is one of the best choral-orchestral masterpieces ever written! What a profound chord progressions, orchestration and counterpoint but the whole sound is so subtile and clear.
Somehow, this woman was born with a vision of heaven.
This one here is a certified goosebumps giver. Every time without fail when I listen to this.
Every time I remember how old Lili was was when she died, I feel gutted all over again.
I can't help but wonder about all the symphonies, the pieces that she'd never write, the people who won't notice her presence or realise her brilliance...(it's harder to ignore an active, living composer than a dead one). The influence she would have made in classical music. It's such a damn shame.
Une honte, oui....
The harmony in this piece is just amazing.
cinematic
damn.. she was like 23-24 at the time? thats just unbelieveable. i love the voicings she used so much!
bazdesh exactly! Imagine how monstrous her orchestral work will grow if she lived on.
Only 22 actually!
@@thewalmer7942 To be fair, George Enescu wrote some incredible music when he was a teenager but while i like his mature work very much he really didn't go as far as you'd have expected him to go. Prodigies are often like this, they rarely turn out like Mozart, who actually matured into one of the finest composers in history to the point his fame as a child prodigy is a red herring considering his real value as a composer begun in his adult years (say, from the Haydn quartets and onward).
Sophia Perennis Well, that’s good for me, since I’m an Impressionist 15 years old composer haha.
@@sophiaperennis2360 in case for Boulanger, we'll never know. She died too young.
That ending is gorgeous, the orchestration is so inspired. What a genius!
From 3:30 to 4:15... I utterly die there! Lili Boulanger est incomparable, un profond mélange entre Liszt et Ravel!
How can you write music this powerful and moving and still be forgotten?
Be a woman. Sad that even in today’s somewhat dying classical world, people only latch on to those known as “the greats” (Mozart, Bach, Beethoven), instead of searching and discovering those others who are lesser known such as Lili. Over the past week I’ve become obsessed with her works, and when I finish my conducting degree, I’d love to program her works some time
@@Composer_Piggy excellent idea really ! You are right people repeat and repeat always to listen to the same things and the theater to program the same thing....
sexism.
we're literally talking about her, how can you say "forgotten"? That's more that can be said about most composers throughout history, the majority of which were truly forgotten.
you guys need to stop with this... she's not forgotten at all, her music is played, studied and loved across the globe, and her sister was one of the most prominent teachers in the 20th century... they'll never be "forgotten"
Merci Lili...que du bonheur....
More Lili Boulanger! Fantastically-gifted composer!
Really! and underrated
@@NahreSol i did not expect to see you here, but i'm really glad that you are! i hope that you talk about more underrated composers on your channel so that more people will know about them.
People sometimes complain about the RUclips recommendations that have been offered. I had not heard this piece before nor had I heard of the composer but thankfully that situation has been put right.
Thanks be to God
Alhamdulilla
Elle était vraiment douée...Quel malheur de l'avoir perdue si tôt !
Boulanger’a Psalm 24 reminds me of heaven,
her Psalm 129 is equivalent to some kind of purgatory,
and her Psalm 130 is a pitch perfect depiction of hell.
1:47 is the motif that returns in d'un soir triste
It took just a moment to realize the translation into English was not just supplied, but written into the music in grace notes. How wonderful!
J'ai découvert Lili Boulanger il y a peu et quelle merveille de création! Cette jeune compositrice méconnue doit être écoutée et reconnue.
❤❤❤ Her mind and the intellect and the creativity creates a work of outstanding beauty.
OMG if Lili had written symphonys 😍😍😍
Part of me want that, but part of me also just cannot imagine a Lili Boulanger piece without a powerful choir piercing through the orchestra.
Her last two compositions, D'un Matin de Printemps and D'un Soir Triste are pretty close to a symphonic piece. Short in length but impressive in scale.
@@zanexiao4488 symphonies can have choirs as well.
@@zanexiao4488 Mahler would like to have a word with you ;)
What a wonderful composition. She was far ahead of her time. She did so much in the very short time she had. (She died at 24.)
I love you Lili, what a beautiful music.
I find her music to be quite severe. Her originality begs a strong emotional response which she certainly gets from me. She is a giant among other of music's most influential French composers such as Debussy, Ravel, Poulenc, to name a few. I'm sure she was a most wonderful person whom I will never forget.
Wonderful ❣️❤️Magnifique❤️❣️ Wunderschön ❣️❤️ Estupendo ❤️❣️
Merci Jean-Claude pour cette belle chronique et cette superbe musique.
Really excited to be performing this work along with another of hers at this years Adelaide Festival of Arts with the Adelaide Symphony Orchestra! As a low bass, it's quite a challenge but what truly ravishing writing and a great loss to the musical world that she died too young.
This is incredible music
LOL
Way ahead of its time.
It was in the air, check out Scriabin's Poem of Ecstasy
Wow, amazing piece
Wow. This is incredible. Too incredible to describe in a RUclips comment. Also love the choice to add the SA parts singing the chords at the end. Felt like we had arrived in heaven to a soft choir of angels.
what a profound piece ! And what a gifted composer !!
What a beautiful piece!
There's a lot of feminist whining surrounding this great composer which truly desecrates her achievements reducing it to a "woman vs. patriarchy" narrative. Boulanger's greatest enemy was unfortunately her illness, not man. She was a respected and promising young composer, valued by the most influential people in the Paris Conservatory. She even won a Prix de Rome. People like to say that she was forgotten and yet we're still talking about her after more than a century, which is more than what can be said about most composers throughout history.
what a beautiful and personel score....never hear something like this..it is very strong effect...
this is fantastic
Holy Smokes!! She was Magical.
Omg, she was so amazing! this is beautiful
sublime-- luminous
Beautiful
DIeu que c'est beau
Genius. In every bar.
Breathtaking!
I've waited the score for sooo long... and you've just made my day
I love the 7th chords!
WOAA. Incroyable... One is speechless.
Thanks for uploading! It's nice to see and listen to female composers!!!
Amazing! I hadn't heard this before. Thank you for posting!!!!
Magnifique!
Why did it take mankind so many years to find out that parallel motion stacks of thirds are the bomb?
Outstanding!
Love Lili... It would be amazing to see orchestra's sheet!!!!!! Thanks Cmaj7!!!!
The video with the full score is linked in the description: ruclips.net/video/5lHuP0EDjew/видео.html
Extraordinary! I wonder if anyone can tell me how the almost ethereal, humming effect is produced in the orchestra at 6:42, after the male choir sings "L'Eternel"?
I believe there is a female choir as part of the orchestra. They start singing "Ah" at 5:54.
I agree, at first it sounds like flutes but by the end you can tell that's voices singing ah. A great choice by the conductor I think.
@@AndromedaCripps It's actually part of the score, don't know why it's omitted in this reduction.
husastra Oh that is odd. Probably reduced for solo baritone and so they left out the small bit of SA action since it's part of the orchestral texture covered by the accompaniment.
The score as shown is confusing as our vocal score is for both tenors and basses singing the same melody- the female voices come in at the end and it's not unlike the wordless female chorus from Holst's "The Planets". So beautiful.
I need to study this!
Have you?
@@patrickwalt6903 it seems I forgot 🥲
Luscious
ridiuclously good
5:54 This is what it sounds like to be in heaven
Extraordinary! American. Thanks for sharing.
Sorry, I really didn't mean to say "American". I had just listened to some Charles Ives and it reminded me of some new kind of break from traditional forms and harmonies, not unlike the Impressionists. But even more advanced. Never heard of her before. Thanks and sorry. CVD
Charles Davis: Copeland studied with her, as did Elliott Carter, David Diamond, Virgil Thomson, and Walter Piston. So your aural faculties are in good working order.
Dear Forestier; Thanks for you insights. It didn't really seem French to me. She must have been quite a lady (teacher) and 70 years ahead of time. This is the first time I've heard any of her works. Thrilling. CVD
I think you're confusing Lili and Nadia Boulanger.
The Number e yes I have! Oops. I'd forgotten about the sister!
Where I heard these harmonies before? I think she may have influenced a lot of composers.
Probably in Rautavaara
Check out some Jongen too
The first measures immediately reminded me of Steve Reich's City Life.
A bunch of words from another language that I don’t understand posted by CMaj7? Count me in
Something slightly off with the audio file. The piece and the recording are fine. But it sounds overcompressed, possibly even noise cleaned, which creates an unwanted electronic buzz. It might be the fault of the recording, an old one perhaps, rather than the file upload. A piece certainly worth looking up in a more correct form.
The opening chords are reminiscent of Ravel's Le Gibet.
♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
👌🏻👌🏻
I wonder was Messiaen's "O Sacrum Convivium" inspired by the opening?
I hate piano reductions, it's like watching the trailer of a movie, I wanna see the whole thing for god's sake!
Yeah. I much prefer the orchestral score, but I made this before I found the full score.
@@Cmaj7 Wait, you have the full score of Boulanger's take on Psalm 129? You must be so lucky. If only I was able to view it.
これはオーケストレーションも本人がしているのでしょうか?25歳はあまりに短命。惜しい。
Jazz chords
4:08
It looks like Gregoire hetzel compositions
she died that she was only 25....
This sublim music shows that even in a mental sewer like feminism today, beautiful and astounding plants can bloom ? ..... Cette compositrice faisait honneur et devait rendre Debussy fier d'être son égal !
Wtf
@@GUILLOM this music gives me the impression of reading Alice in Wonderland / On the Other Side of the Mirror (Lewis Caroll) with my ears ... Same perceptions, same understandings and encodings.. With great and rare intelligence, each listening is a constantly renewed state of fullness❤
4:09