Lili Boulanger - Psalm 129 "Ils m'ont assez opprimé dès ma jeunesse" (1916)

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  • @laurentcontini6016
    @laurentcontini6016 4 года назад +104

    Lili Boulanger is a great composer, forgotten, underestimated, ignored, even in France. She, as many women composers, ought to be known and listenened. Quelle beauté, quel lyrisme, quel talent !!! Merci de la faire découvrir. Pure bliss...

    • @cassimiroscheid7699
      @cassimiroscheid7699 3 года назад +8

      Yeah, and she's amazing. Sadly she died so young. I believe that if she lived more time, she would be more known

    • @Sikanda.
      @Sikanda. 2 года назад +5

      Exactly, first time I heard about her was through an American RUclipsr. In France, she's completely forgotten, which is profoundly sad considering the talent and creativity she had at such a young age.

    • @pilouetmissiou
      @pilouetmissiou Год назад +2

      ​@@Sikanda. nul n'est prophète en son pays....mais c'est vrai c'est même assez honteux d'un point de vue de la musique cette totale absence de quelque programmation que ce soit dans les salles.... c'est une musique prenante, d'une orchestration forte...je me suis demandé si les textes, de tradition hébraïque, pouvaient y être pour quelque chose.... l'antisémitisme est chez lui en France, hélas....je ne sais pas.. c'est une idée, comme ça...

    • @graziellambayi710
      @graziellambayi710 Год назад +2

      Je viens à peine de la découvrir... c'est fantastique; il n'y a pas assez de mots pour qualifier la qualité de son oeuvre.

    • @acevaptsarov8410
      @acevaptsarov8410 7 месяцев назад +2

      Forgotten?! She's revered across the entire globe!

  • @timalan5376
    @timalan5376 5 месяцев назад +8

    Gone, but she will never be forgotten.

    • @pilouetmissiou
      @pilouetmissiou 4 месяца назад

      Non, elle sera immortelle...c'est trop beau...

  • @lupash
    @lupash 2 месяца назад +4

    She was a genius. The way she voices those complex harmonies and resolves them to a matter of taste and vision that many composers never had, no matter how much they studied. And you can tell she's a composer who studied a lot, but also you can tell her harmonic vision was far ahead of her time.

  • @MrTomekMR
    @MrTomekMR Год назад +10

    This is one of the best choral-orchestral masterpieces ever written! What a profound chord progressions, orchestration and counterpoint but the whole sound is so subtile and clear.

  • @trevorpsy
    @trevorpsy 2 года назад +4

    Somehow, this woman was born with a vision of heaven.

  • @Dageka
    @Dageka 9 месяцев назад +5

    This one here is a certified goosebumps giver. Every time without fail when I listen to this.

  • @Marewig
    @Marewig 2 года назад +19

    Every time I remember how old Lili was was when she died, I feel gutted all over again.
    I can't help but wonder about all the symphonies, the pieces that she'd never write, the people who won't notice her presence or realise her brilliance...(it's harder to ignore an active, living composer than a dead one). The influence she would have made in classical music. It's such a damn shame.

  • @Casio61
    @Casio61 5 лет назад +39

    The harmony in this piece is just amazing.

  • @bazdesh
    @bazdesh 7 лет назад +163

    damn.. she was like 23-24 at the time? thats just unbelieveable. i love the voicings she used so much!

    • @thewalmer7942
      @thewalmer7942 6 лет назад +13

      bazdesh exactly! Imagine how monstrous her orchestral work will grow if she lived on.

    • @zanexiao4488
      @zanexiao4488 6 лет назад +9

      Only 22 actually!

    • @sophiaperennis2360
      @sophiaperennis2360 5 лет назад +13

      @@thewalmer7942 To be fair, George Enescu wrote some incredible music when he was a teenager but while i like his mature work very much he really didn't go as far as you'd have expected him to go. Prodigies are often like this, they rarely turn out like Mozart, who actually matured into one of the finest composers in history to the point his fame as a child prodigy is a red herring considering his real value as a composer begun in his adult years (say, from the Haydn quartets and onward).

    • @alejandrom.4680
      @alejandrom.4680 5 лет назад +6

      Sophia Perennis Well, that’s good for me, since I’m an Impressionist 15 years old composer haha.

    • @darwin94
      @darwin94 3 года назад +3

      @@sophiaperennis2360 in case for Boulanger, we'll never know. She died too young.

  • @mithramusic5909
    @mithramusic5909 6 лет назад +68

    That ending is gorgeous, the orchestration is so inspired. What a genius!

  • @Tourterelle_NGANGUEN
    @Tourterelle_NGANGUEN 2 года назад +15

    From 3:30 to 4:15... I utterly die there! Lili Boulanger est incomparable, un profond mélange entre Liszt et Ravel!

  • @Scriabin_fan
    @Scriabin_fan 4 года назад +45

    How can you write music this powerful and moving and still be forgotten?

    • @Composer_Piggy
      @Composer_Piggy 3 года назад +23

      Be a woman. Sad that even in today’s somewhat dying classical world, people only latch on to those known as “the greats” (Mozart, Bach, Beethoven), instead of searching and discovering those others who are lesser known such as Lili. Over the past week I’ve become obsessed with her works, and when I finish my conducting degree, I’d love to program her works some time

    • @pilouetmissiou
      @pilouetmissiou Год назад +2

      ​@@Composer_Piggy excellent idea really ! You are right people repeat and repeat always to listen to the same things and the theater to program the same thing....

    • @thedivineedgar3029
      @thedivineedgar3029 Год назад +1

      sexism.

    • @claudiomonteverdi7126
      @claudiomonteverdi7126 9 месяцев назад +3

      we're literally talking about her, how can you say "forgotten"? That's more that can be said about most composers throughout history, the majority of which were truly forgotten.

    • @acevaptsarov8410
      @acevaptsarov8410 7 месяцев назад +7

      you guys need to stop with this... she's not forgotten at all, her music is played, studied and loved across the globe, and her sister was one of the most prominent teachers in the 20th century... they'll never be "forgotten"

  • @philipperapalli2562
    @philipperapalli2562 Год назад +3

    Merci Lili...que du bonheur....

  • @brandonnelsonmusic
    @brandonnelsonmusic 7 лет назад +64

    More Lili Boulanger! Fantastically-gifted composer!

    • @NahreSol
      @NahreSol 7 лет назад +18

      Really! and underrated

    • @qalaphyll
      @qalaphyll 3 года назад +4

      @@NahreSol i did not expect to see you here, but i'm really glad that you are! i hope that you talk about more underrated composers on your channel so that more people will know about them.

  • @georgealderson4424
    @georgealderson4424 5 лет назад +18

    People sometimes complain about the RUclips recommendations that have been offered. I had not heard this piece before nor had I heard of the composer but thankfully that situation has been put right.
    Thanks be to God
    Alhamdulilla

  • @kniazigor2276
    @kniazigor2276 5 лет назад +10

    Elle était vraiment douée...Quel malheur de l'avoir perdue si tôt !

  • @mr.hashundredsofprivatepla3711
    @mr.hashundredsofprivatepla3711 2 года назад +2

    Boulanger’a Psalm 24 reminds me of heaven,
    her Psalm 129 is equivalent to some kind of purgatory,
    and her Psalm 130 is a pitch perfect depiction of hell.

  • @skylarlimex
    @skylarlimex 5 месяцев назад +1

    1:47 is the motif that returns in d'un soir triste

  • @johncanfield1177
    @johncanfield1177 4 года назад +9

    It took just a moment to realize the translation into English was not just supplied, but written into the music in grace notes. How wonderful!

  • @laurentcontini6016
    @laurentcontini6016 5 лет назад +7

    J'ai découvert Lili Boulanger il y a peu et quelle merveille de création! Cette jeune compositrice méconnue doit être écoutée et reconnue.

  • @brittenmusic6923
    @brittenmusic6923 2 года назад +6

    ❤❤❤ Her mind and the intellect and the creativity creates a work of outstanding beauty.

  • @philiphautzinger8365
    @philiphautzinger8365 6 лет назад +46

    OMG if Lili had written symphonys 😍😍😍

    • @zanexiao4488
      @zanexiao4488 6 лет назад +7

      Part of me want that, but part of me also just cannot imagine a Lili Boulanger piece without a powerful choir piercing through the orchestra.

    • @zanexiao4488
      @zanexiao4488 6 лет назад +9

      Her last two compositions, D'un Matin de Printemps and D'un Soir Triste are pretty close to a symphonic piece. Short in length but impressive in scale.

    • @Scriabin_fan
      @Scriabin_fan 4 года назад +7

      @@zanexiao4488 symphonies can have choirs as well.

    • @cylnx4174
      @cylnx4174 4 года назад +7

      @@zanexiao4488 Mahler would like to have a word with you ;)

  • @MichaelConwayBaker
    @MichaelConwayBaker 5 лет назад +10

    What a wonderful composition. She was far ahead of her time. She did so much in the very short time she had. (She died at 24.)

  • @gardikagigih5704
    @gardikagigih5704 4 года назад +6

    I love you Lili, what a beautiful music.

  • @TheProsaicCult
    @TheProsaicCult 3 года назад +24

    I find her music to be quite severe. Her originality begs a strong emotional response which she certainly gets from me. She is a giant among other of music's most influential French composers such as Debussy, Ravel, Poulenc, to name a few. I'm sure she was a most wonderful person whom I will never forget.

  • @ishtar2848
    @ishtar2848 4 года назад +4

    Wonderful ❣️❤️Magnifique❤️❣️ Wunderschön ❣️❤️ Estupendo ❤️❣️

  • @jacquelinedanton9676
    @jacquelinedanton9676 5 лет назад +3

    Merci Jean-Claude pour cette belle chronique et cette superbe musique.

  • @markroberts5832
    @markroberts5832 2 года назад +3

    Really excited to be performing this work along with another of hers at this years Adelaide Festival of Arts with the Adelaide Symphony Orchestra! As a low bass, it's quite a challenge but what truly ravishing writing and a great loss to the musical world that she died too young.

  • @Dee.CeeHaich
    @Dee.CeeHaich 3 месяца назад

    This is incredible music

  • @lukehuh3140
    @lukehuh3140 7 лет назад +40

    Way ahead of its time.

    • @mckernan603
      @mckernan603 6 лет назад +4

      It was in the air, check out Scriabin's Poem of Ecstasy

  • @lucasgust7720
    @lucasgust7720 5 лет назад +5

    Wow, amazing piece

  • @AndromedaCripps
    @AndromedaCripps 5 лет назад +12

    Wow. This is incredible. Too incredible to describe in a RUclips comment. Also love the choice to add the SA parts singing the chords at the end. Felt like we had arrived in heaven to a soft choir of angels.

  • @PeterLunowPL
    @PeterLunowPL 7 лет назад +15

    what a profound piece ! And what a gifted composer !!

  • @daniellennon9993
    @daniellennon9993 7 лет назад +14

    What a beautiful piece!

  • @claudiomonteverdi7126
    @claudiomonteverdi7126 9 месяцев назад +2

    There's a lot of feminist whining surrounding this great composer which truly desecrates her achievements reducing it to a "woman vs. patriarchy" narrative. Boulanger's greatest enemy was unfortunately her illness, not man. She was a respected and promising young composer, valued by the most influential people in the Paris Conservatory. She even won a Prix de Rome. People like to say that she was forgotten and yet we're still talking about her after more than a century, which is more than what can be said about most composers throughout history.

  • @pilouetmissiou
    @pilouetmissiou 6 лет назад +5

    what a beautiful and personel score....never hear something like this..it is very strong effect...

  • @josephk7946
    @josephk7946 5 лет назад +3

    this is fantastic

  • @daviddelhomme
    @daviddelhomme 5 лет назад +4

    Holy Smokes!! She was Magical.

  • @patricktulher
    @patricktulher 6 лет назад +7

    Omg, she was so amazing! this is beautiful

  • @EmdrGreg
    @EmdrGreg 5 лет назад +4

    sublime-- luminous

  • @Gusrikh1
    @Gusrikh1 6 лет назад +3

    Beautiful

  • @michelhost4826
    @michelhost4826 6 лет назад +8

    DIeu que c'est beau

  • @pawdaw
    @pawdaw 6 лет назад +11

    Genius. In every bar.

  • @teppopuinut
    @teppopuinut 5 лет назад +1

    Breathtaking!

  • @giovannismartini479
    @giovannismartini479 7 лет назад +14

    I've waited the score for sooo long... and you've just made my day

  • @TheMikkis100
    @TheMikkis100 7 лет назад +11

    I love the 7th chords!

  • @amadealeonore-saxophonesat9806
    @amadealeonore-saxophonesat9806 4 года назад

    WOAA. Incroyable... One is speechless.

  • @classicalmusicanalysis
    @classicalmusicanalysis 7 лет назад +3

    Thanks for uploading! It's nice to see and listen to female composers!!!

  • @calokid
    @calokid 5 лет назад +2

    Amazing! I hadn't heard this before. Thank you for posting!!!!

  • @Parsifal75ful
    @Parsifal75ful 4 года назад

    Magnifique!

  • @NothingFunnyAboutTheseCarpets
    @NothingFunnyAboutTheseCarpets 7 месяцев назад +2

    Why did it take mankind so many years to find out that parallel motion stacks of thirds are the bomb?

  • @rudigerk
    @rudigerk 5 лет назад +1

    Outstanding!

  • @miquelcanterolastre2475
    @miquelcanterolastre2475 4 года назад +1

    Love Lili... It would be amazing to see orchestra's sheet!!!!!! Thanks Cmaj7!!!!

    • @Cmaj7
      @Cmaj7  4 года назад +1

      The video with the full score is linked in the description: ruclips.net/video/5lHuP0EDjew/видео.html

  • @obilewong4003
    @obilewong4003 7 лет назад +32

    Extraordinary! I wonder if anyone can tell me how the almost ethereal, humming effect is produced in the orchestra at 6:42, after the male choir sings "L'Eternel"?

    • @Cmaj7
      @Cmaj7  7 лет назад +33

      I believe there is a female choir as part of the orchestra. They start singing "Ah" at 5:54.

    • @AndromedaCripps
      @AndromedaCripps 5 лет назад +1

      I agree, at first it sounds like flutes but by the end you can tell that's voices singing ah. A great choice by the conductor I think.

    • @husastra
      @husastra 5 лет назад +3

      @@AndromedaCripps It's actually part of the score, don't know why it's omitted in this reduction.

    • @AndromedaCripps
      @AndromedaCripps 5 лет назад +3

      husastra Oh that is odd. Probably reduced for solo baritone and so they left out the small bit of SA action since it's part of the orchestral texture covered by the accompaniment.

    • @markroberts5832
      @markroberts5832 2 года назад +3

      The score as shown is confusing as our vocal score is for both tenors and basses singing the same melody- the female voices come in at the end and it's not unlike the wordless female chorus from Holst's "The Planets". So beautiful.

  • @OdinComposer
    @OdinComposer 7 лет назад +10

    I need to study this!

  • @brendoncasarez6777
    @brendoncasarez6777 5 лет назад +1

    Luscious

  • @olin3496
    @olin3496 6 лет назад +4

    ridiuclously good

  • @Emiliasooo
    @Emiliasooo 3 года назад +1

    5:54 This is what it sounds like to be in heaven

  • @charlesdavis7087
    @charlesdavis7087 7 лет назад +1

    Extraordinary! American. Thanks for sharing.

    • @charlesdavis7087
      @charlesdavis7087 7 лет назад +5

      Sorry, I really didn't mean to say "American". I had just listened to some Charles Ives and it reminded me of some new kind of break from traditional forms and harmonies, not unlike the Impressionists. But even more advanced. Never heard of her before. Thanks and sorry. CVD

    • @Forestier1
      @Forestier1 7 лет назад +3

      Charles Davis: Copeland studied with her, as did Elliott Carter, David Diamond, Virgil Thomson, and Walter Piston. So your aural faculties are in good working order.

    • @charlesdavis7087
      @charlesdavis7087 7 лет назад +1

      Dear Forestier; Thanks for you insights. It didn't really seem French to me. She must have been quite a lady (teacher) and 70 years ahead of time. This is the first time I've heard any of her works. Thrilling. CVD

    • @the_number_e
      @the_number_e 7 лет назад +13

      I think you're confusing Lili and Nadia Boulanger.

    • @Forestier1
      @Forestier1 7 лет назад +2

      The Number e yes I have! Oops. I'd forgotten about the sister!

  • @dangelobenjamin
    @dangelobenjamin 5 лет назад +17

    Where I heard these harmonies before? I think she may have influenced a lot of composers.

  • @theflep
    @theflep 4 года назад

    The first measures immediately reminded me of Steve Reich's City Life.

  • @limaromeo8745
    @limaromeo8745 5 лет назад +2

    A bunch of words from another language that I don’t understand posted by CMaj7? Count me in

  • @edmundbloxam2714
    @edmundbloxam2714 6 лет назад +7

    Something slightly off with the audio file. The piece and the recording are fine. But it sounds overcompressed, possibly even noise cleaned, which creates an unwanted electronic buzz. It might be the fault of the recording, an old one perhaps, rather than the file upload. A piece certainly worth looking up in a more correct form.

  • @wavesofrelaxation2612
    @wavesofrelaxation2612 4 года назад +3

    The opening chords are reminiscent of Ravel's Le Gibet.

  • @niinaranta3014
    @niinaranta3014 7 лет назад +5

    ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥

  • @edmaj7782
    @edmaj7782 4 года назад +1

    👌🏻👌🏻

  • @KieranTully
    @KieranTully 8 месяцев назад

    I wonder was Messiaen's "O Sacrum Convivium" inspired by the opening?

  • @lucasgust7720
    @lucasgust7720 5 лет назад +4

    I hate piano reductions, it's like watching the trailer of a movie, I wanna see the whole thing for god's sake!

    • @Cmaj7
      @Cmaj7  5 лет назад +1

      Yeah. I much prefer the orchestral score, but I made this before I found the full score.

    • @GJYYNGII
      @GJYYNGII 5 лет назад +1

      @@Cmaj7 Wait, you have the full score of Boulanger's take on Psalm 129? You must be so lucky. If only I was able to view it.

  • @journey3451
    @journey3451 7 лет назад +2

    これはオーケストレーションも本人がしているのでしょうか?25歳はあまりに短命。惜しい。

  • @yrockerboy
    @yrockerboy 5 лет назад +6

    Jazz chords

  • @mariorossi9655
    @mariorossi9655 3 года назад

    4:08

  • @Laraluz850
    @Laraluz850 5 лет назад

    It looks like Gregoire hetzel compositions

  • @backwordy
    @backwordy 4 года назад

    she died that she was only 25....

  • @MegaCirse
    @MegaCirse 4 года назад

    This sublim music shows that even in a mental sewer like feminism today, beautiful and astounding plants can bloom ? ..... Cette compositrice faisait honneur et devait rendre Debussy fier d'être son égal !

    • @GUILLOM
      @GUILLOM 3 года назад +8

      Wtf

    • @MegaCirse
      @MegaCirse 3 года назад

      @@GUILLOM this music gives me the impression of reading Alice in Wonderland / On the Other Side of the Mirror (Lewis Caroll) with my ears ... Same perceptions, same understandings and encodings.. With great and rare intelligence, each listening is a constantly renewed state of fullness❤

  • @BenzemonstreENTs
    @BenzemonstreENTs Год назад +1

    4:09