This really demonstrates quite nicely the safety of LiFePo chemistry and illustrates nicely why it is very difficult to achieve thermal runaway and sustainable combustion. Well done.
We had tested also LTO cells and some Li-Pol cells as comparison, video of this final overview is in preparation. ZG weren't tested this time, maybe in future.
Submerging LiFePO4 cell is actually the recommended method of cooling it down and will be demonstrated in our upcoming video. So the answer: cell would stabilize faster if submerged to water.
@@GWLPowered Cool! I hope to see a PUNCTURED cell immersed in water. It would help offset the perception that LiFePO4 cells are dangerous around water.
It's a company that sells lithium cells. Why wouldn't they put up their info at the end? This test applies to all LiFePo4 cells on the market using that type of chemistry.
L Guaire Wrong. Surprisingly now a days these batteries are a lot safer than lead acid. Worst part is that the lead acid would of exploded violently flinging acid all over.
Can you test an external short, or loose external connection (will it induce welding externally)? Preferably with something next to it as I’m sure it’s not installed with 5 sq ft of open air surrounding it. Thanks.
The higher energy density always comes at a cost - either safety of durability... So it's necessary to always adjust the type of the battery to the concerete application.
THIS IS A GOOD LiFePo4 battery....this is what every electric automobile manifacturer should be useing in electric cars... They far safer! This is why.
It's more a demonstration of how safe Lithium Ferrous Phosphate batteries are. There are still a lot of people out here who think they're explosive and dangerous but these are very safe even compared to old useless lead-acid batteries. If you did these tests with, say, a Tesla Lithium Cobalt battery, the result would be much more dramatic, those have three times the energy density compared to LiFePo4. Batteries like these (the Winston that is) are what everyone should be installing in their motorhomes, or even their own homes to act like "powerwall replacements" for storing energy.
Liquid fuels may be inherently more dangerous, but are not going to react when the vessel containing it is mutilated unless it leaks or vents and finds a source of ignition.
@@juliogonzo2718 I'll try to puncture my gasoline tank with an axe. Apparently it's very safe to do according to you. Then I'll go to my sisters car which runs on gas, and puncture hers as well. Then we'll compare the results with a short circuit battery.
Where I lived previously the apartment management banned electric cars charging/parking due to the fire and explosion risk. Despite 0 electric vehicle incidents over 10 years, but 22 ice vehicle fires..
I wrote a bachelor thesis about using LiFePO4 as UPS-batteries (instead of lead-acid) back in 2020 - exactly because i found that LiFePO4 was quite interesting - and compared it to other types. Only americans use lithium based UPS's - europeans are still to conservative :D
The point of the video is that if you get a car with LFP or LTO batteries, you are safe - because even when there is a mechanical damage (like a car crash), it won't explode or burn down.
This really demonstrates quite nicely the safety of LiFePo chemistry and illustrates nicely why it is very difficult to achieve thermal runaway and sustainable combustion. Well done.
lol fake
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@@mr1osia No, specifically LiFePo, the Li-Po or Li-Pol batteries will detonate or combust when punctured
Please do this with a series of 1000 18650 lithium ion cells 😂😂😂
Nice! Could you also do those tests with the ZG-LFPO Cells?
We had tested also LTO cells and some Li-Pol cells as comparison, video of this final overview is in preparation. ZG weren't tested this time, maybe in future.
What would happen if the punctured cell were dropped in water?
Submerging LiFePO4 cell is actually the recommended method of cooling it down and will be demonstrated in our upcoming video. So the answer: cell would stabilize faster if submerged to water.
@@GWLPowered Cool! I hope to see a PUNCTURED cell immersed in water. It would help offset the perception that LiFePO4 cells are dangerous around water.
@@PawlSpring Water is actually the most effective method in extinguishing Lithium battery fires according to many studies.
Didn't realize this was an advertisement till the end
It's a company that sells lithium cells. Why wouldn't they put up their info at the end? This test applies to all LiFePo4 cells on the market using that type of chemistry.
Something about that background music creeps me out........
All those folk standing there without protection at the end.. I'd guess there is more stored power in one of those than a hand grenade.
L Guaire
Wrong. Surprisingly now a days these batteries are a lot safer than lead acid. Worst part is that the lead acid would of exploded violently flinging acid all over.
Now dagnapet I could have used those cells! Some of us are starving for electrons!
Can you test an external short, or loose external connection (will it induce welding externally)? Preferably with something next to it as I’m sure it’s not installed with 5 sq ft of open air surrounding it. Thanks.
We'll ask colleagues, thank for the idea.
to bad NiCoLi batteries like in tesla model S. does not have this degree of safety. but higher energi density.
The higher energy density always comes at a cost - either safety of durability... So it's necessary to always adjust the type of the battery to the concerete application.
look mom, no thermal runaway!
THIS IS A GOOD LiFePo4 battery....this is what every electric automobile manifacturer should be useing in electric cars... They far safer! This is why.
Many electric cars are using LFP batteries
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Those batteries rox
are these fully charged?
No, 3.2v is about 20% charge.
Удивляют "гражданские" в кадре, которые без защиты подходят на близкое расстояние и весьма беспечны? Ролик постановочный и не имеет ничего реального?
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Why are you doing all of these tests even a battery without any protection is 100 times safer than petrol fuels
It's more a demonstration of how safe Lithium Ferrous Phosphate batteries are. There are still a lot of people out here who think they're explosive and dangerous but these are very safe even compared to old useless lead-acid batteries. If you did these tests with, say, a Tesla Lithium Cobalt battery, the result would be much more dramatic, those have three times the energy density compared to LiFePo4. Batteries like these (the Winston that is) are what everyone should be installing in their motorhomes, or even their own homes to act like "powerwall replacements" for storing energy.
Liquid fuels may be inherently more dangerous, but are not going to react when the vessel containing it is mutilated unless it leaks or vents and finds a source of ignition.
@@juliogonzo2718 I'll try to puncture my gasoline tank with an axe. Apparently it's very safe to do according to you. Then I'll go to my sisters car which runs on gas, and puncture hers as well. Then we'll compare the results with a short circuit battery.
@@Misteribel hope your sister doesn't beat you up after
Where I lived previously the apartment management banned electric cars charging/parking due to the fire and explosion risk. Despite 0 electric vehicle incidents over 10 years, but 22 ice vehicle fires..
I wrote a bachelor thesis about using LiFePO4 as UPS-batteries (instead of lead-acid) back in 2020 - exactly because i found that LiFePO4 was quite interesting - and compared it to other types.
Only americans use lithium based UPS's - europeans are still to conservative :D
Por que no traducen en castellano
Sorry, use English as the most common language... Greetings from Prague!
This is why I'll NEVER get a battery/EV car.
You did not get the point of this video.
The point of the video is that if you get a car with LFP or LTO batteries, you are safe - because even when there is a mechanical damage (like a car crash), it won't explode or burn down.
Idiots, releasing toxic gases, n1 mr. Firefighter