I think it's obviously a problem with the left solenoid as the one on the right is clearly working fine. It could be that it seized and they just decided to only use the one side, hence the pulse but then you can almost hear it clunk shut at the start of the test so I don't know but I wonder if that's it on permanent pulse now lol 🔊🤩
How strange, was the left solenoid not opening at all then? If so, I wonder if both solenoids were working then we’d find out if it’s actually meant to be doing a longwinded hi-lo signal similar to Broadmoors old system 😂 Would be awesome if you could also grab an ambience video of this next time, bet it would sound weird as!
analysis time you can hear at the start when the shutters open that one of the more dominant notes from it opening is a c#. while the shutters are closed, you can hear what i used to think was the motor whining actually usually starts around a c# and lasts until a c flat, which suggests the shutters are the actual cause behind the whining. you also usually won't hear that whine on any other siren without shutters. this suggests that, like another commenter from another video on one of the broadmoor sirens said, that whine actually is the shutter experiencing resonance. my theory is, as the siren often tends to shake while sounding, years of that will cause more wear on the screws and/or the holes that hold it in place, that connects the stator and the shutter, which causes more whine overtime. this is likely why you can hear a lot more of that whine on the lanark siren, or any of the broadmoor sirens (aside from the trl and crowthorne station siren)
At least we know what broadmoor’s CS8’s originally sounded like when they used Pulse as their signal from 8th December 1952 (when the first test was conducted) until the 60’s
@@randomores thanks 😊 though I must say, GothicGman actually filmed it a month before me, but he only got the audio as he wasn't in the village at the time, just nearby 🔊
Great video, nice to see there are other siren enthusiasts out there! I have a collection of small sirens, they are loud enough, but nothing like this :)
hope this siren is repaired soon if its not already ?!?... though random interesting note i just realised this is probably the first siren to do pulse since the 50s/60s :0
This has got to be a pre-programmed signal, if only we could see what the inside of that control box looks like. I heard this one was broken a while back? Seems like they've messed it up a bit when they fixed it, absolutely love it though!
Yes that's right, this one packed in a few months back but they sorted it quick and I've said what you said, I think they've got some wires crossed so to speak when they sorted it lol but yeah it does make it rare and awesome! 🔊🤩
@@thunderchild2756 there used to be a chemical plant in Leeds that had a SECOMAK or KLAXON CS8 that did exactly what this siren is doing and it sounded like a ship horn with the distinctive low everyone of the two tones joining together
@@BritishLifeSafetySystems it was part of a big brewery so it had some kind of hazards so it needed a siren witch had shutters witch made a pulse sound like one at Carstairs witch is at Carstairs village or some village there. It sounded like a very big horn because of the low note caused by the dual 10/12 tones sounding together
maybe not since on google maps there were no bushes and not even the massive fence but just a little fence in 2008 and 2009 but sadly there are no other street views until 2021 after that. clear angles you would’ve gotten back then!
Yup. The Thunderbolt 1003 is capable of doing pulse, however the flasher has to be re-programmed to do it. Unless it is manually done, Pulse and Hi-Lo cannot be programmed on the same flasher at the same time.
This is really strange! I've never heard of a CS8 doing pulse. I would typically think it would do Hi-Lo instead. Not a lot of dual rotor sirens here in the United States do pulse either, unless they're programmed to do so. I personally think they should keep it this way, it sounds a lot more unique. I am still curious as to how they would have fucked it up like this though.
Broadmoors cs8s have been gone for nearly 3 years now 😔 I heard they were auctioned to various companies that require site sirens and they were replaced by one Klaxon electronic siren on the hospital roof which gets silent tested, so no one can even film it 🔇🤬
@@thunderchild2756 if a branch got caught in the rotor, it would stop the rotor moving, the I’ve caught my finger in my CS6 rotor and nearly cut off the nail, when even spinning at a low rpm, the rotor becomes a guillotine
The high and low solenoids open one at a time with hi lo, so you get a kinda "nee naw" effect, but with pulse, both solenoids open and close at the same time, giving the usual dual tone effect but in a pulsing tone 🔊
It's possible. But unfortunately this siren no longer sounds at all now, only the damper(s) open and close. Look at my Carstairs Village follow up video for a couple months ago 👍🏻
Extremely unlikely as from whst I've read and even speaking to locals up there, they really do value their sirens and are actually relived when they get tested as they know they are working and feel safe, and if one isn't working it quickly gets sorted. And its only once a month for a few minutes, its not like a daily thing so o doubt it's anything to do with noise complaints as no one has ever said anything before that I know of..... if anything they complain when they don't go off lol 🏥🔊🤣
@@CycloneJoey518 it is a mystery though lol but someone will know.... it's the hospital that controls them and sets them off, so if only I knew someone who worked there maybe they could tell us why lol
I think it's obviously a problem with the left solenoid as the one on the right is clearly working fine. It could be that it seized and they just decided to only use the one side, hence the pulse but then you can almost hear it clunk shut at the start of the test so I don't know but I wonder if that's it on permanent pulse now lol 🔊🤩
How strange, was the left solenoid not opening at all then? If so, I wonder if both solenoids were working then we’d find out if it’s actually meant to be doing a longwinded hi-lo signal similar to Broadmoors old system 😂
Would be awesome if you could also grab an ambience video of this next time, bet it would sound weird as!
There are other cs8 Sirens that have a jammed shut Shutter
I thought it was the controls of the siren itself. 🤨🤨🤨
@@JJP_SirenProductions06 well it's fairly obvious now that it's clearly been programmed to do it, but still no explanation as to why 🤔
Must be really bad for the motors
analysis time
you can hear at the start when the shutters open that one of the more dominant notes from it opening is a c#. while the shutters are closed, you can hear what i used to think was the motor whining actually usually starts around a c# and lasts until a c flat, which suggests the shutters are the actual cause behind the whining. you also usually won't hear that whine on any other siren without shutters. this suggests that, like another commenter from another video on one of the broadmoor sirens said, that whine actually is the shutter experiencing resonance.
my theory is, as the siren often tends to shake while sounding, years of that will cause more wear on the screws and/or the holes that hold it in place, that connects the stator and the shutter, which causes more whine overtime. this is likely why you can hear a lot more of that whine on the lanark siren, or any of the broadmoor sirens (aside from the trl and crowthorne station siren)
At least we know what broadmoor’s CS8’s originally sounded like when they used Pulse as their signal from 8th December 1952 (when the first test was conducted) until the 60’s
This is wicked. Love the sounds the solenoids make when they’re both shut, even more prominent on wind down too. Great catch! :)
Thanks 😊 yeah it's quite the rarity, even though I'm not sure it's intentional lol awesome none the less 🔊🤩
@@thunderchild2756 Would assume it's broken and will be fixed in due course yes, but at least it's been caught on camera!
@@randomores thanks 😊 though I must say, GothicGman actually filmed it a month before me, but he only got the audio as he wasn't in the village at the time, just nearby 🔊
Great video, nice to see there are other siren enthusiasts out there! I have a collection of small sirens, they are loud enough, but nothing like this :)
Thank you 🔊😁
yesssssss !!! like this,what this stop and start 😅😅😅 ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha 🙂🙂🙂.
hope this siren is repaired soon if its not already ?!?... though random interesting note i just realised this is probably the first siren to do pulse since the 50s/60s :0
This has got to be a pre-programmed signal, if only we could see what the inside of that control box looks like. I heard this one was broken a while back? Seems like they've messed it up a bit when they fixed it, absolutely love it though!
Yes that's right, this one packed in a few months back but they sorted it quick and I've said what you said, I think they've got some wires crossed so to speak when they sorted it lol but yeah it does make it rare and awesome! 🔊🤩
It's strange, every pulse and gap is exactly 3 seconds long, so maybe this is one of the sirens pre-programmed signals?
That's what I was thinking..... but the question is, why has it suddenly started doing that after all this time....? 🔊🤔 I love it though 😍
@@thunderchild2756 there used to be a chemical plant in Leeds that had a SECOMAK or KLAXON CS8 that did exactly what this siren is doing and it sounded like a ship horn with the distinctive low everyone of the two tones joining together
@@jezcolborne6329 sure, what was this chemical plant
@@BritishLifeSafetySystems it was part of a big brewery so it had some kind of hazards so it needed a siren witch had shutters witch made a pulse sound like one at Carstairs witch is at Carstairs village or some village there. It sounded like a very big horn because of the low note caused by the dual 10/12 tones sounding together
@@BritishLifeSafetySystems it had a very deistinct overtone
i bet carstairs a few decades ago was like "ok in these bushes is a good idea"
Lmao 🔊🌲
Ok so you see those bushes? “Yeah” put it there and we can’t find it to maintain it “great idea”
maybe not since on google maps there were no bushes and not even the massive fence but just a little fence in 2008 and 2009 but sadly there are no other street views until 2021 after that. clear angles you would’ve gotten back then!
I like how you can see the shutters closing and opening
Yeah that's awesome 🔊👌🏻
Amazing 😍👌 wish I was there but stupid school is stopping me 😒
Epic. They ought to leave it as it is. It makes it unique a bit like Ravenstruther!!
Agreed 🔊😁
What in the hell? Sounds awesome nonetheless, great video!
Thanks 😊 I still think they've set the wrong programme when they repaired it a few months back, but heck yeah it's awesome! 🔊🤩
Wonder if this will do an 8 minute pulse for escape or just the usual 8 minute continuous tone 😂
And thus is a first for me cus the last time I heard one of these it did attack the hi-lo never I my life have I seen one do pulse
So this the first recording of any 10/12 port coded siren in pulse! Even 3T22s weren’t recorded in pulse
ruclips.net/video/wB4Rj99gvG0/видео.html
They remind me of that high pitched 3t22 in clyde ohio
@solidsabeye the Tbolt 1003 can do pulse right
Yup. The Thunderbolt 1003 is capable of doing pulse, however the flasher has to be re-programmed to do it. Unless it is manually done, Pulse and Hi-Lo cannot be programmed on the same flasher at the same time.
This signal is almost similar like broadmoor escape signal
correction: the high tone shutter is jammed open.
Wow
This is really strange! I've never heard of a CS8 doing pulse. I would typically think it would do Hi-Lo instead. Not a lot of dual rotor sirens here in the United States do pulse either, unless they're programmed to do so. I personally think they should keep it this way, it sounds a lot more unique. I am still curious as to how they would have fucked it up like this though.
A happy accident we'll call it 🔉🤣
@@thunderchild2756 I would also like to ask, where in Carstairs Village is the CS8?
@@SolidSableye it's at Carstairs village primary school
@@SolidSableye It's next to houses at Carstairs Primary School. Near a Co-op or if it still is a co-op
Looks like the only few dual rotors is the 2T22/3T22
I thought it was working for a second
The silver street thunder bolt but it’s it’s in Scotland
Are the other CS8s alternating?
Nope. Just this one. It packed in a few months back and got repaired so it could be that they've crossed some wires or a signal when fixing it
I ment to say I have never heard 1 of these do pulse
wait, broadmoor still keeps their sirens just in case, will they give it to carstairs when they decide to take their sirens down?
Broadmoors cs8s have been gone for nearly 3 years now 😔 I heard they were auctioned to various companies that require site sirens and they were replaced by one Klaxon electronic siren on the hospital roof which gets silent tested, so no one can even film it 🔇🤬
@@thunderchild2756 well maybe they sent companies some sirens and kept others
@@Nthuziast I wish they had, like so many others do.... but they gone I'm afraid 😔
@@thunderchild2756 2 are still remaining I think the Hospitals one and the TRL one
@@hmsirensandfirealarms that's news to me but good news lol can you find out anymore info about it? 🔊👌🏻
What's pulse tone for
Fire
Sounds awful, but epic at the same time! Thanks for sharing!
It's those damn trees getting caught in it 🙄
@@thunderchild2756 Wouldn't surprise me!
@@thunderchild2756 if a branch got caught in the rotor, it would stop the rotor moving, the I’ve caught my finger in my CS6 rotor and nearly cut off the nail, when even spinning at a low rpm, the rotor becomes a guillotine
@@BritishLifeSafetySystems tbh I was more mad at the trees for blocking the view when they kept blowing in to it lol
@@thunderchild2756 ohhh
What is the difference between hi lo and pulse
The high and low solenoids open one at a time with hi lo, so you get a kinda "nee naw" effect, but with pulse, both solenoids open and close at the same time, giving the usual dual tone effect but in a pulsing tone 🔊
I think the 1:25 is a scary rundown
Is that CS8 underpowered? It sounds kinda weird (not talking about the pulse) Or is that normal?
It's pretty normal
So ur telling me it’s tryna do high low? But it’s pulsing bc of 1 solar noid being broken?
It's possible. But unfortunately this siren no longer sounds at all now, only the damper(s) open and close. Look at my Carstairs Village follow up video for a couple months ago 👍🏻
11 MONTHS AGO ALREADY!
Did you control siren g
Lol I wish 🙄
Does this siren still remain?
Thankfully yes, hope it does for many years to come 🔊🤞🏼
Something is not spinning right
Are they testing Hi-Lo now?
No, just this particular siren has started doing it for some reason
@@thunderchild2756 you need to document this as many times as possible before it stops doing pulse signals
@@Sipex6484 I'll try 👍🏻
Chance of this happening is a 1 in 1,000,000
It's still happening as far as I know 🔊👌🏻
Did you enjoy the test? 😁😁😁
Quite a bit lol yes 🏥🔊😁🤣
@@thunderchild2756 did it give you frights when the shutter opens 🤣🤣
@@hmsirensandfirealarms not this time as it started up each time same as the braehead or Ravenstruther one so there was no sudden jump start lol
@@thunderchild2756 ahh ok lol
It may have been done on purpose due to noise complaints idk
Extremely unlikely as from whst I've read and even speaking to locals up there, they really do value their sirens and are actually relived when they get tested as they know they are working and feel safe, and if one isn't working it quickly gets sorted. And its only once a month for a few minutes, its not like a daily thing so o doubt it's anything to do with noise complaints as no one has ever said anything before that I know of..... if anything they complain when they don't go off lol 🏥🔊🤣
@@thunderchild2756 Yeah, thought so lol.
Just a thought
@@CycloneJoey518 it is a mystery though lol but someone will know.... it's the hospital that controls them and sets them off, so if only I knew someone who worked there maybe they could tell us why lol
@@thunderchild2756 Maybe its a faulty signal box, or the CS8 has a mind of its own
@@CycloneJoey518 ha ha lol maybe 🔊😁
Why siren g is escape see all clear tone is use
No one knows lol