I think you got a good eye opening experience there. I could even see the trailer sway a little when the tractor and trailer passed you. Most people see these astronomical tow ratings and think they are fine but your car trailer is a load even for a 3/4 ton if we are being honest. It’s too much for a half ton. 9000 pounds on an open trailer is probably OK for a half ton but 9000 pounds with a big box behind you is pushing it. I agree with you. Safety first. Power is never the problem with the half tons but stopping and just handling the weight is. That trailer is probably close to 4000 pounds heavier than a half ton. That’s almost twice its weight.
You hit the nail on the head! Power is never the issue and a open trailer+ a car will probably equal the weight of the GVWR of a half ton. Great comment bro 👍🏾
You got it man. Having an 8.5’ wide enclosed trailer is a night and day difference in towing compared to an open trailer. Most light duty open car trailers weigh around 1500 pounds. So even a heavy car like yours and you would still only be 6500ish. Take a race car like mine and it’d be under 4000 pounds. An enclosed trailer weighs close to 4000 pounds by themselves. Some over. The length is hurting too with the 28’ trailer like yours plus the extended tongue. Your trailer is over 32’ long counting the tongue. My 24’ ain’t as bad but it’s still a big “sail” behind you with a lot of surface area for wind to hit.
Toyota is open to the idea but the states are giving them a hard time. Toyota already gots diesels but from what I was told by Toyota that it wouldn’t even be cost effective for them to go through all that emission bs with the United States.
The Tundra 5.7 being a 3/4...I mean 1/2 ton with a 4:30 diff, 6-S gears. I had zero problems towing a 35FT DBH plus a hugh toolbox in the bed from MI to Washington the state. I pulled it over the rookies with no problems. My Tundra has 270K, runs great,
The new ones don't have transmission coolers Toyota removed it They also no longer make work trucks anymore the trim has been removed You can get a extended can for 33k a grand cheaper then a f150 a fully load tundra is 22k cheaper then a fully loaded f150 excluding the raptor I used to own a 2007 I wonder if toyota ever fixed the premature water pump failure issue they had with the 5.7
I think you provided a fairly objective review and I appreciate that. I will say that I worked for a RV dealer as their towing resource for a number of years and my personal truck is the Tundra with the 5.7l and I tow a 30' RV trailer that when loaded for camping, is 7,800 lbs. Would a 3/4 or 1 ton diesel pull it better? Sure! But, I only tow about 7-8% of the total annual miles I put on the truck each year, so I'm perfectly happy with the Tundra. First thing, as mentioned in the video, is a properly setup weight distribution system. That is a given even with a heavier duty 3/4 or 1 ton truck, but especially so on a half ton! However, while air bags will lift up the rear some, bags won't do anything to make it "feel" more in control when driving, just makes it "look" better. Air bags are helpful when you have cargo weight in the bed of the pickup over the rear axle such as a truck camper in the bed, hauling firewood, or even a fifth wheel hitch that sits 2" forward of the rear axle. When you have a bumper tow trailer, air bags don't do anything other than offer a cosmetic improvement.
Allen thanks for sharing! I do agree that 1/2 tons really do need a WDH and I may purchase one in the future to retest some of the half tons I’ve reviewed. The only HD truck I think needs a WDH is the GM trucks due to the IFS. My truck is long/heavy so a WDH would add little to no benefit. If I was towing at max conventional, this would be a different story 👍🏾
I've got a '14 Tundra that pulls a 36' Travel trailer (7500 lbs dry) with WDH and sway control. I do 70mph all the time unless I'm going up a steep hill. Never have any problems at all with it. Love my Tundra! Just wish they made a 3/4 ton!
May I ask if you have ever weighed your rig at a scale & what you axle weights were? I’m concerned about being 600 lbs. overweight on my rear drive axle in my Sequoia according to a CAT scale. Thinking of buying a crew cab, long bed because we are over payload capacity & my young kids will only grow & bring more gear.
100% facts!! After 15yrs of camping on weekends and loading the 1/2 tons I've had I finally bought a 01 gmc 2500HD with the 8.1/Allison trans with 4.10 rear. Holy shit!!! Night and day difference and no more white knuckle driving. To be fair I was close to max tow on the half tons but now I've got way more truck I need with our 9k trailer. No I enjoy towing rather than dreading it.
So far I've towed over 11,000 miles coast to coast/north and south across the country (many times over many mountain passes) almost maxed out. I use a weight distribution/anti sway hitch. I also have air bags that keep it level and solid. It's also lifted with oversize tires. I can two finger drive it in high winds and even when passed by semis, although I usually don't LOL. This truck is solid as a rock and does amazing. Use manual and tow/haul. Nice video !
Appreciate the comment. You had your rig set up properly and I’m sure your tires were LT so that made it feel that much more secure. What were you seeing in MPG?
@@JB_WhoWork Towing? LOL. 7.5 - 8.5 mpg average depending on terrain. Daily driving about 14 mpg. Thank goodness for 38 gal tank. Correct, I have LT tires.
I’ve towed close to 15k miles the last two years in and around the mountains in Tennessee. I’ve been overall impressed with the truck, and have put a lot of miles on it. Towed small excavators for some of my jobs, took trailers, materials. The truck has the power to pull it. It’s just in keeping it under control up close to max weight that can be scary at times. I’ve just had to learn limits with what I’m comfortable towing over long distances. It’s been a great truck. If I were towing really heavy it would have to be a diesel. But I love Toyota’s so....
I'm in the same boat. I live in Southern New Mexico. And travel around the southwest and Colorado. My toy hauler is 7 thousand pounds and my toys is 24 hundred pounds. Plus all my camping gear. I have to be over my weight limit. The tundra us a beast. I can't find a reason to get a crappie 250. Did I mention I have over 250 thousand miles on it.
I agree, especially for a trailer that large. I only have a Tacoma and tow about 6K once in a while. It was SHOCKING how stable it is with the distributing hitch, as compared to without I could only go about 60 mph before it danced all over the place back there.
They shouldn't advertise the truck as in between a 1/2 ton and 3/4 ton if it can't handle a trailer that big that's probably smaller than what most people hook up to their modern 1500s even tho you should really go 2500 and up also 9k pounds of towing for again something advertised as A "bigger" truck is pathetic oh and the interiors are god awful on any trim you get.
Yes, and if you look at the specs for the Tundra, with a dead weight hitch the limit is 500 lbs, with a weight distribution hitch it's 1,020. Considering your tongue weight should be 10-15% of trailer weight, it puts the tongue weight for a 9,000 lb trailer at 900 lbs minimum. Certainly should have used a WDH with sway control. Also, because it's a Max cab 4x4 with options, the max pay load is only 1,240. I just got a double cab sr5 2wd with 6.5 bed and it's payload is 1730, so I have no problem with two people and my modest travel trailer (4,700 dry) and a dual sport (300 lb) in the back. Still, I'm using a weight distribution/sway control hitch.
I have a 18 Tundra, with Tembren bump stops ,I have a 7 thousand pound toy hauler with WDH.. Those stock mirrors suck.. Put it Manuel mode an you can pass anybody.
I've got a 2014 Tundra. With a half ton towing 10k you really need to take the time to center the weight on the trailer axles. Slightly forward makes a big difference towing and eliminating the sway. I also put in trailer brakes, air bags and the heavy duty square bar sway bars. Every little bit helps.
I'm glad you pointed out the weight distribution hitch. I can't understand why anyone would not use one with a haft ton. It should be standard equipment .
I'd like to say a few things. I own a 2018 Tundra CrewMax, and I've towed pretty heavy with it on multiple occasions (10k lbs loaded dump trailer). Keep in mind, the Tundra is still only a half-ton, and therefore isn't as capable as a 3/4 or 1-ton truck. While 9000lbs is within the capabilities of the truck, you definitely pointed out that the Tundra feels pretty 'sketchy', and I would tend to agree with you. BUT, I'd temper that by saying that a half ton (any half ton) is probably most comfortable towing around 6000lbs. If you're towing close to the maximum rating often, you need a bigger truck, as you should only occasionally be towing close to the max (I know you know this, given that you have an HD). With regards to the brakes, well, Tundra's brake controller needs to be set with quite a high gain. When you were testing out the brakes in the parking lot, it sounded like the Tundra's ABS was kicking on, and I'm pretty sure I heard tires screeching as the Tundra locked up its tires. On a trailer that big and heavy, I'd try setting the Gain closer towards the top end. Toyota has issued a few TSB's concerning the brake controller not being powerful enough, and I'm not sure if it would have been resolved on the truck you're driving here. All that being said, when you keep the trailer loads reasonable, I find the Tundra to be a very capable hauler. The 5.7 is powerful, the transmission is responsive and decisive, and that 4.30 rear end is amazing. The Tundra is also a relatively heavy half-ton, which helps lessen the impact a trailer has on the truck.
You are correct with the trailer gain. Most people do not know how to setup electric trailer brakes. The brakes of the trailer are for just that. It's for the trailer which means setting up the trailer brakes once both truck and trailer brakes are up to rolling temperatures. Do some mild braking and if you are applying more brake to your truck than normal then that means more gain needs to be added. You are now using the truck to brake the weight of the trailer. Keep playing with the gain until you have your brake feel of the truck back to normal. Now you have the brakes set up balanced. Your brake gain on cold brakes will be way different than brake at proper rolling temperatures.
Payload wise my chevy 2500hd was better than my now 2019 Tundra. However!!!! That truck only had a tow rating of 9600 lbs and rode like a brick. Not to mention 10 mpg everywhere i went. My new tundra pulls my trailer better and gets better MPG both towing and unloaded. I was a loyal GM guy for 20 years but they went downhill after 06 IMO. Im loving the Tundra so far.
Very Nice Truck. Let me share what I've done to mine. Added OEM Tow Mirrors, buy online through dealers, only cost $450 pair, local dealer wanted over $800. Best part, factory plug in adds side marker lights w/directional. Also best hitch made, Bulletproof, USA. Well worth the cost. Love my Tundra. Best of luck with yours.
Great video, pretty informative , just recently picked up our trailer and got a tundra to go with it, WD hitch and all. It tows fairly comfortably, but it’s kind of a difference of it can tow heavy VS Wants to tow heavy. If you want a DD that can tow the tundra fits the bill pretty well, but if you want a truck that will tow and can be a DD stepping up may be in order.
Pulling a trailer that big you need a good hitch with sway bars. I have 2017 tundra and pull a 30ft toy hauler full of toys total 10,000 lbs I have air bags with correct hitch and the tundra rocks the trailer over mountains I can run 65-70 mph no problem. I just really wish I got better gas mileage lol 😆 😪 😩 🙃
@@verajavi12 all I can tell you is I do it all the time over a 5% grade my brother told it was not possible either until he made a trip with me and I pulled with him the whole way and he has a 2020 f350 diesel
Awesome review. I think In general Toyota trucks can’t tow as much etc. But that Tundra will out last any Ford and Dodge by a long shot. Fords are notorious for transmission issues, electrical issues and turbos even with less than 50k miles on them.
Good video. Thanks for taking the time to do videos like this. Btw. You also failed to put a trailer coupler pin in place, not sure what the law is there but around here that will get you a fine. Cheers
The Tundra can still handle it's own when it comes to towing especially compared to the big 3 with their constant updates. I test drove all 5 of the half ton V8s with my 7500# TT with WDH and surprisingly the Tundra seemed to have the best overall handling to power ratio. You can clearly tell they were built with towing in mind.
Toyota says you need a WDH for anything above 5k i think on the tundra. most of us also have the trd rear sway bar and an add a leaf or air bags when we tow our race cars with an enclosed. we also run the more aggressive front pad and the same race brake fluid in our cars.
I have a 2020 sr5 tundra . Until this truck I towed with diesel trucks. I’m here to tell you the way these trucks tow is UNREAL! If you want a dependable truck that will tow almost anything you put behind it buy one of these trucks. As you can tell I’m extremely pleased with mine.
I use a Blue Ox weight distribution hitch like any educated person would do if they want to tow a heavy load. My 2019 Tundra pulls a 8800 pound 33 foot travel trailer and my tundra doesn’t sag an inch and pulls it just fine. I travel all over New England with it. Also, the length of your hitch will alter tongue weight.
I pull a 31ft travel trailer, 6500lbs coast to coast, round trip annually, with my Tundra. Always averages around 9mpg. His 5mpg comment was him looking at the 'instantaneous' snapshot of the mpg at that moment.
I pull my 38ft 9300lbs (Dry) travel trailer with my 5.7 2017 Tundra. I put airbags on and I have a weight distribution hitch and I still get that pucker effect every now and again. It definitely does the job but it does have that uncomfortable feeling. Being a truck driver who did over the road for quite awhile I don't get that pucker feeling very often.
@jeremybrockington6494 We seem to have that effect on a lot of different cultures. To be fare a lot of different cultures have the same effect on us. 🤣
Agree with the adjustable lights. I use mine all of the time. Great to have them set low when driving slower in town, and then set them higher for more down-the-road spread when driving fast. That allows for more reaction time. Interior of Tundra, agreed as well...Meh. However, Tundras don't cost $70k either. 2021 Ford F150, $74,250; 2021 Toyo Tundra $53,050. That's a $21,000 difference (not counting the $1,450 tax difference at 7%...never mind if you have to finance). The difference will buy another car...for my wife. Note: the trailer he's using looks like a 24', which I looked up online (exact trailer) and found it to be 3800 lbs empty. The Charger Hellcat is 4586 lbs, for a total of 8386 lbs. That's some serious weight to pull with a standard truck (non 5th-wheel). Not saying it can't be done, but emergency situations may have dire consequences. Me personally, I would not tow that weight with that truck. I own a 2013 Tundra, also black, TRD-SR5 with a 4.30 rear axle ratio, and love it. Just put money into it for the first time ever: Brake job all around, including bleeding lines/flush, resurface and new brake pads, oil change-full synthetic of course, tire rotation and new lifetime battery. Total cost was $854.00 with a military discount of 10%, at the dealership. Not bad for a 8.5 year old truck. That breaks down to an average of $100 per year. I will admit that I only have 68k miles on her though. And, I've been in a GMC Sierra, XLT, with leather seats. I'll take my cloth seats over the Sierra's any day. They are larger and more comfortable. The Sierra seats are way too firm. Not to mention the cavernous back seat area which would swallow the Sierra back seat space. My kids love the space. I'm expecting to drive my T another 200k. Additional plus, my Tundra was built in Alabama, by American hands, not Mexico. Well, robotic AND human hands. Safety note: Complete ALL tasks prior to putting your car in drive, ie., seat belt. Great video and review. Well done!
I own a 2007 Tundra with 270k and still looks new, runs great. I pull a 35ft DBH. Never had an issue. Pulled it from coast to coast and over the Rockies. A Ford or Chevy would have issues.
I use a 2013 Tundra that was built for towing. 5.7L 6 speed auto 4.10 gears 2WD with positive lock. I have also added Firestone air bags to the back. I air them up to 20psi towing a Grand Design 2850MK 35 feet from hitch to rear bumper. (verified hitch weight with a scale of 800#). When I tow I use E-2 leveling and anti sway bar. I also added E rated tires. The only thing it does not like is hills ;-) Heated towing mirrors inside adjustable but manual pull out. I have not found a 3/4 ton truck under 10000# that is much better than what I have now... I have owned Ford, Ram, trucks in the past. I do not want to go over 10k because I would need more than a class C drivers license. Towing weight on my Toyota is 10200#. I am about 5% under. I have 4 years with this setup. California Driver... ;-)
Hey I like the flag on the back sides of your truck. I have a 2019 Toyota TRD Sport... bummed they did away with the trans cooler. Thanks for sharing your videos
I just traded my 2018 Tundra Limited Crewmax for a RAM 2500. I loved my awesome Tundra but simply need a 3/4 truck for heavier towing that I do now. Love Toyota!
No weight distribution? The controller isn't set beyond 3? Dude are you kidding? My trailer weight 4900 pounds dry and I use weight distribution, no squat and handles perfect, brakes very well. I have no idea why guys don't use and weight distribution. It's such a huge difference. Set the controller on 10.
@@JB_WhoWork same here I also carry extra pins in my glove box. Trust me it is not cool when a trailer comes unhitched at 55 mph hauling 7,500 lbs in a half ton with no trailer brakes. Nobody got hurt and the 2006 tundra limited 4x4 rear bumper got some character and I almost needed to change underwear lol.
I would probably tow with this setup, max a few times a month with a WDH set up properly. Any more frequently than that it's HD pickup time. That being said I like the Tundras.
Thanks for sharing! I agree that this truck at max with WDH would be a huge difference, but to your point, long trips and frequent towing would probably have me looking at HD trucks as next purchase. Growing up, my dad had a lot of Toyota Tundras and I am a huge Toyota Land Cruiser fan 👍🏾
Yeah, HD's are made for weight, as he said at least once, you get spoiled by them when you actually have to tow often. I used to drive a large HD box truck and loved doing the heavy loads. Empty it was throwing me all over the cab. For some smaller loads I'd take my tundra (old 01 tundra) and even with just 800-1000 lbs in the bed it was just about on the bump stops. 1/2 ton trucks are casual towers, and people shouldn't get over excited about towing too much, especially constantly.... just get a bigger truck... you don't want wimpy running shoes in mud, use wide boots... the trucks size is like a big boot. Silly comparison, but it's true, haha.
My tundra will pull 12,000 with my weight distribution hitch. I could probably tow a little more idk I wouldn’t want to. But I’m highly impressed with my tundra. There a trick to helping them pull. But I’ll Keep that to myself.
let me tell you as a Tundra owner since 2004 ..I own the second Tundra a 2013 for now looking forward to upgrade if need it to the newly redesigned model...YOU NEED ACTUAL SWAY BARS ..when towing . Dont fall for that invisible built in sway bar hokus pokus !
@@kimojon9665 Toyota’s are built better than ram and Chevy and Ford. Ram isn’t made by dodge it’s fiat Chrysler which by stellantis. You will be feeling cheap when your ram breaks down at low mileage and the tundra you traded in is still going down the road perfectly fine.
@@Gubers ram and dodge aren’t the same companies. Stellantis is ram and they fall apart daily. Tundras hardly ever have issues at all with regular maintenance being done to them.
If you have more than 500 lbs tongue weight on that class 1V hitch you need a weight distribution hitch. However, it doesn't look like 800 lbs because my horse trailer tongue weight is 795 lbs and my 2015 SR5 double cab sinks right to the bump stops if I don't have the weight distribution hitch on it.
I have a 2nd Gen Tundra with the LSD double cab and long bed(8ft) with the sr5 tow package (tow mirrors and bigger gas tank) and I really only recommend towing/hauling under 8k pounds. So far have 0 issues with my 2nd Gen towing Mostly 5-6k. I recommend putting any truck to 4wd then putting on the Ebrake. Sometimes when loading trailers it'll lift the trucks rear wheels. The 3rd Gen updated model tundra based off price and the package(looks like you have the 4th stage sr5 upgrade with tow package) which will set you back to 44k based off the 2021 pricing on the sr5 model. For 44k you can get a Chevy 2500hd custom(or the WT trim). For 46k you can get the ram 2500. And 49k you can get the Ford f250 with the 7.3L(xlt trim). The tundra is just not worth it in my opinion just based off its performance and what you're getting, Because with the 3 other trucks their interior is a lot better. Plus all the 3 trucks Is rated for these type of heavy towing and all of the other 3 trucks have a 8ft bed option with a full dual cab... Because it ain't a real truck if it ain't got no 8ft bed.
Like the review, I am a big Toyota fan. I always owned a Toyota, from 1983 and up. I have a 2014 Tundra, but I do not tow like you guys do, so a half ton works well for me. I would lime to understand why Toyota doesn't build at least a 3/4 ton for you big tow guys. I know it would get alot of people interested, like your tow class and alot of farmers too?
You haven't towed much then. It comes down to control, the 2015 silverado 2500 I drove handled our 8x20 cargo trailer filled with concrete cutting equipment from Vegas to Reno like a dream. The 6.0 was somewhat sluggish compared to other trucks, especially newer, but it handled WAY better than my boss' 2016 Tundra. That was ball on hitch, no WD. You shouldn't need a WD hitch to justify owning a truck. That said, when we did finally get a WD hitch the Silverado still handled better, especially against heavy cross winds. The Tundra is cool, but it's nothing special. No locking diffs, no rear diff breather tubes, anemic payload compared to other trucks (500lbs less than a new Ford Ranger, >1k less than most 3/4 ton offerings), piss poor gas mileage, etc. It's simply not a "work" truck the same way a 3/4 ton is. It isn't intended to be. You can't compare the two.
Great video JB. I'm a owner of a 2017 Tundra Crewmax can speak that there are Tundra's Crewmax with a long bed similar to the size of a Tundra Double Cab. The Crewmax with a long bed are very hard to find but they do exist. Tundra's are great at tolling but for "PERSONAL" tolling. Their not Super Heavy Duty haulers but I've met some business owners whom converted over from Dodge & Ford to the Tundra so that they can peacefully run their business and tow their business trailers. So some people do haul big trailers with their Tundra's without an issue but no it will not tow like a Dodge Cummins. It's no secret, Tundra's are NOT truck owners looking to save on Gas MPG. They are built for being a reliable/dependable light duty truck. For people looking to tow and save gas they should look at Dodge, Chevy or Ford. But it's rumored that the 2022 Toyota Tundra will have a v6 turbo from the Lexus LS500 which may have 500 HP but will get better MPG. But we will find out sometime in February on this year. Tundra are great reliable trucks and are VERY affordable to maintain but if you looking for heavy duty towing and good gas, you may want to look the diesel route.
Thanks! The Pros of not being redesigned, new tech, and new engines is the truck most likely will be bullet proof and there will be plenty of parts on the market should you need to replace something 👍🏾
It can go up to 30mph. They slow it down for the people, news, and advertisers to take the puctures and videos. Also, shuttle have three wheels, the wings are heavy that can tip over if running over 5mph.
This seems more like a "how not to tow" video. I'm glad you pointed out that bags and WDH would be better. You also need to take the Gain all the way up to 10 with a load that heavy. Would never attempt this weight in my Tundra or any other half ton for that matter. I tow my TT between 6500 and 7000lbs with air bags set to about 30-35 psi, appropriate Weight distribution hitch , and full gain on trailer brake controller. I wouldn't go any higher than that, and I'm just at my payload max. With that set up I feel very secure on the interstate. Again, if I had your load, I would only go HD truck.
Manufactures claim big tow numbers so my goal is to see if they can really tow that heavy and I can report you can’t. Everyone should do their own research and be sure not to exceed capacities. I’m 1 person in a tow vehicle without gear so I’m not making out these trucks 👍🏾
I have a 2014 Tundra with a 8’ Bed and The 430 rear end also Air Bags and it Pulls My 31’ 5th Wheel and Nitto Tires 1 Size Bigger - And Don’t Even Feel it’s Back Their ! I Try Very Hard NOT to Drive Over 60 for Safety. Had a Tire to Blow in My 250 Diesel Ford with Firestone Tires and Not Good. Tore Out The Whole Rear Fender ! I Think Of Others Driving Around Me , and Don’t Want To Have a Blow Out on My Camper. I Did Change To a 12 Ply Tire . Didn’t Like 10 Ply. I’m Pulling Over 9300 lbs. including Wife ! Love Love 💗 My 5.7 with The Toyota Cool TRD Air Intake. K&N I Think Better , But Didn’t Want To Void my Warranty with Toyota 🤷🏼♂️. Have a Great & Safe Day !!!
This comes down to expierence, pulling near a trucks max load can be extremely dangerous if you don't have the expierence but can be perfectly safe if you know what you're doing.
that trailer needs a wdh with sway controle. Do you even know what your tong weight with that setup? did you measure it? I tow a 28ft ATC toy hauler with a car in side that is 2750lbs. combined weight with car and trailer is around 9000lbs with gear and water. I use a blue ox wdh with say control. It tows perfect.
I agree. I tow a 33ft travel trailer with weight distribution hitch and sway control with air bags set at 40psi. It tows great. 5.7 tundra and the travel trailer is around 10k lbs loaded
They are missing the market. I love the 1794 edition. Best seats I sat in . My 25 ft boat and trailer max out the 8800 lb. What a shame. They need a 2500 size
Great video, safety first for sure. Your facial expressions are awesome, at times you look like you’re shitty your pants! :). All joking aside, I tow 4K with my Tundra and love it. Did you set your brake controller or just play with the gain a bit? I was told the proper way to set a controller is to test it and the trailer should stop the truck with the trailer brakes without locking them up. Did you do that off camera? Just curious. My concern is always coming to a stop. :). Great video and beautiful truck!
I loved my tundra when I had it. Great family truck. Front jump seat, rear reclining seats, full window that lowers in the rear, and was able to handle light loads. Nothing too heavy or at the max... When I got my 5th wheel, had to upgrade to a Ram 3500 dually. Tundra's payload was very bad.
If your brake pedal is going to the floor then it needs either new brakes or its fluid is low. I've never ever had my pedal go to the floor ever in my Tundra.
Like with any vehicle you need to learn how to use it properly. If you go from a HD to a 1/2 ton of course there is a learning curve I would not make it a habit towing super heavy with it, but knowing it can do it every so often then yeah its a good thing. If you need to tow heavy often then like you said get a big truck pay the big price as well. Forgot to mention the TRD off road version has different shocks than the SR5 4x4 so the SR5 doesn't squat as much. I have a 2020 Tundra 4x4 SR5 model and I tow 3000lb boat and trailer and forget its back there, doesn't squat at all at 3000 lbs haven't had to tow anything past 5000lbs so far.
Just came across your video. Even though I don't row as heavy as you do, I just traded my 2020 Tundra SR5 for a 2021 GMC Sierra 1500 3.0L Duramax. I tow a 5k lb pressure washing trailer every week and the Tundra fuel mileage is bad to begin with without a trailer and way worse towing. I had been wanting a diesel for awhile and this fit the bill. Nothing but torque as soon as you step on the pedal with 460 ft lbs of torque at 1500 rpms. The Tundra is a good truck but it's nice to get 16mpg towing a trailer.
I just traded a ram 1500 in for a 20 tundra sr5 crewmax in cement. 2019 n 20 Toyota omitted the external trans cooler which was a mistake especially for towing. My ram towed a 6700 pd. Boat n trailer with ease. The trans temp never got past 210 and stayed at 190.The Ram had a 8 speed trans. and a 330 differential. I haven't towed with the tundra and probably won't till I add a trans cooler once the warranty is up. I'm a truck driver by occupation and tow 48,000 pd loads on as regular basis. I always see F150s roadside hood up in the summer months with a trailer in tow.
The tundra is a great truck for light towing like small boats or equipment trailers but any half ton is pretty horrible over 5-6k. I have a 9k toy hauler and my 15 Tundra sucked ass compared to my Silverado 2500 when it came to towing.
I have a 2016 Tundra crewmax limited with tow package. I tow a 8,500 lb Travel Trailer and use an equalizer WDH with 4 point sway control. I have now towed it over 30 hours, up steep hills, curves, hundreds of tractor trailers passing and no problems.
Wow, I like your video so much! Thanks for sharing!!! I'm currently having Tundra 2018 CrewMax Limited 2WD (Not 4x4). I'm going to get a RV trailer 7.5k lbs~25ft long soon. I installed Toyota TRD Swag Bar Rear on this truck a few years ago; I'm not sure what else will be best for towing this RV trailer. Any suggestions will be appreciated!!
I tow a 4,500lb trailer 4 days a week. I HAD a 5.7 Tundra and it towed just fine. I live in Utah so it had to be able to handle some steep hills and snow at times. It always got the job done. But I felt unstable on the freeway, and you always knew you were towing. You can feel every move that trailer makes. And the breaking can be sketchy at times. You mentioned almost everything I hated about towing with my tundra. Which is why I recently traded my 2019 Tundra for a 2020 Ram 2500 cummins. My first day towing with the ram... I almost wanted to cry at the difference. I feel so secure and safe with my Ram. Tundra gets the job done, for sure. But I wouldn’t recommend it for regular hauling or anything over 5000-6000lbs.
Thank you for your real world perspective! I have a RAM 1500 and I probably would never choose to tow with it unless I absolutely had to. What you experienced right out of the gate is the extra weight an HD has and when towing 5000#’s, you have pretty much matched the weight of your half ton but a HD weighs upwards of 7300#’s+.
@@JB_WhoWork exactly! I loved my tundra and never felt like it couldn’t do the job. But I just didn’t feel safe in it on the freeway when towing. I’d much rather pay the price tag for a HD for the peace of mind it gives me and how confident and secure it makes me feel. Plus Tundra is LONG overdue for an update. The interior is so dated and cheap!
Hmmm? I have owned since new, a 2001 Tundra 4.7L engine, 2 wheel drive & have towed my 10 foot enclosed trailer, fully loaded - stuffed = 6,000 lbs & 500 lbs tongue weight 50 times or so, sometimes a thousand miles & it towed amazingly, as if it liked that better than not towing, very smooth. It was hard to climb steep hills & hard to stop quickly but, I looked & planned ahead for those times. It won't die! It is still running at 370K miles & I did it's 1st timing belt at 290K. I wanted to see if it could go that far & the old belt looked good still. I will never tow a 24' trailer with 9,000K lbs so, I am looking forward to getting the newer 5.7L Tundra, maybe a 2017 or newer.
You are spot on. I love Toyota trucks, but I traded my 16 Tundra for a new F-250. Towing a 34' travel trailer on the highway with the Tundra was a bit scary at times. The Toyota had all the power in the world, but the trailer felt like it was in control. I miss the Toyota, but there is no comparison towing.
I hope you have better luck with the f250 than I had. A little advice trade it before 150,000 miles. That’s when the dpf begins to give trouble if it’s a diesel.
@@davidjordan6378 I don't really keep anything that long. But I work on diesels for a living and I won't spend my own money on one. The F250 is a 6.2. I have a 350 on order with the 7 3, hoping it arrives before Christmas.
@@jasonsims734 I have towed almost every day for years. I have towed 14000 pounds with my tundra only about 10 miles one way . It is unreal how that truck pulls. I was very careful when stopping which is it’s only weakness. I love it . Hope it holds up like everyone says it will.
@@davidjordan6378 I wanted to keep my Tundra. I think off the line it pulled better than the 6.2. But I agree, stopping was a little sketchy with a lot of weight and highway speeds with a travel trailer got a little unsettled. The salesman and Ford was trying to tell me how boring the Tundra was and I had to let him know, if Toyota built a heavy duty truck, him and I wouldn't be talking.
I finally bought my truck 😂. I bought a 2018 tundra crewmax limited. Mesquite brown on black leather. Only 16k miles. 4x4 trd off-road with those exact rims. I’m so in love with the truck. She’s beautiful!! I’m extremely happy with her. Took a while for me to narrow down my truck but I finally got it and I finally did it.
Ive towed upwards of 16k with my 08 tundra with 130k miles i prefer to not use tow haul and rear airbags help with braking and sway to the point where its a night and day difference worth every penny!
I believe Toyota requires a weight distribution hitch for that tongue and trailer weight. That’s really an unsafe towing situation. Even Ford Super Duty’s require a weight distribution hitch for those weights!
I just picked up at 15 sequoia platinum. Any feedback when attempting to occasionally heal a 10k lbs camper other than a weight distribution hitch with sway bars?
I’m not a Toyota guy at all but I feel this was a little unfair to the truck. A WDH as you said would make a significant difference. Isn’t it a requirement on a 1/2 ton truck for that type of weight? LT tires would also help. Was the truck in 6th gear at 60 mph? I bet manually selecting 5th would improve the experience as well.
Thanks for sharing. I am planning to do the exact same thing with every truck I test. Towing a cargo trailer in MD does not require a WDH but if i owned a half ton specifically to tow this trailer, I would definitely install one. This trailer is being towed by my 1 ton RAM so no need for the WDH. I am unbiased even with my own trucks, take a look through my videos 👍🏾
I agree that you are unbiased. I just think the potential to make the tundra experience better is possible without too much work. I would like to see you do the same test with a 20 or 21 Titan. XD and Regular of course.
Yea, that's why I bought the cab and a half, I wanted the 6.5 feet bed! I don't ride in the backseat nor does anyone else! Owning 2 since 2009 (2009 and 2014) they're great trucks, no big issues... The only annoying issues I've had is (1) fuel mileage which for the 5.7 has and continues to suck, without towing in the city maybe 14 or 15 mph, highway maybe 17 or 18! (2) 2nd generation 07-13 those dumb air pumps, which mine went bad after 30,000 miles I just bypassed them for the next 100,000 miles no more issues. (3) brakes, they eat the 11.5 inch disks like candy, my 2009 I had for 14 years and probably changed brakes 7 times!
Thank you for the review, I’m looking to get arid of my 2007 Silverado 1500hd classic. The tundra sr5 on paper should be a better truck all around, and this review really helped.
I have a 2013 Tundra , no brake controller and small tank 28 gallons . I read in 2014 they upgraded to 38 gallons after many complaints and in 2016 and on Brake controllers are standard on all Tundras ....Damn i should have gotten a 2016
I've driven tractor trailers for years , it has always cracked me up the weight people try to pull with pickups any pickup, I've seen much destruction on the roads with these huge travel and dump trailers crashed and broken, it's just a pickup use it as such , if these heavy duty trucks were so great huge trucking companies would buy them and not 250000 dollar tractors
Thanks got your video because I love Toyota but unfortunately I see I'm going to have to buy a 3/4 ton truck to pull my 40' travel trailer. Question for me is as far as reliability and for a daily driver which of the big 3 should I go with? I too wish Toyota made a 2500. Thanks again
I own a 2014 Tundra with the 5.7L, and ive towed a 31ft travel trailer from Ga to the West coast a couple of times. Weight of trailer 6500lbs. That's really the practical limit when towing in the mountains. Yes, you need a weight distribution hitch with an antisway bar attached to it. Why you do your tests pulling a 9000lb, 35ft trailer without that equipment i do not understand. Of course youre going to get some sway and load issues. Its a half-ton truck. That load you pulled is at its "rated" limit. Those limits are worthless for tall, long trailers when conditions such as crosswinds, mountain driving, etc are factored in. Just my opinion, but i wouldnt tow more than 70% of the tow rating in the conditions i just described.
Awesome video bro. I recently got my 2020 TRD sport. And I do love it. Yesterday, I towed with it for the first time. Pulled a 2,300lb trailer with a 08 ford explorer on top. Roughly 7,600. Total and towed with no issue .
I think you got a good eye opening experience there. I could even see the trailer sway a little when the tractor and trailer passed you.
Most people see these astronomical tow ratings and think they are fine but your car trailer is a load even for a 3/4 ton if we are being honest. It’s too much for a half ton. 9000 pounds on an open trailer is probably OK for a half ton but 9000 pounds with a big box behind you is pushing it.
I agree with you. Safety first. Power is never the problem with the half tons but stopping and just handling the weight is. That trailer is probably close to 4000 pounds heavier than a half ton. That’s almost twice its weight.
You hit the nail on the head! Power is never the issue and a open trailer+ a car will probably equal the weight of the GVWR of a half ton. Great comment bro 👍🏾
Yeah man Safety First are you going over 75 miles per hour doing 80 really that's illegal to doing that on a trailer
You got it man. Having an 8.5’ wide enclosed trailer is a night and day difference in towing compared to an open trailer. Most light duty open car trailers weigh around 1500 pounds. So even a heavy car like yours and you would still only be 6500ish. Take a race car like mine and it’d be under 4000 pounds. An enclosed trailer weighs close to 4000 pounds by themselves. Some over.
The length is hurting too with the 28’ trailer like yours plus the extended tongue. Your trailer is over 32’ long counting the tongue. My 24’ ain’t as bad but it’s still a big “sail” behind you with a lot of surface area for wind to hit.
You have really good insight, thanks for sharing this 👍🏾
come on man come over to Colorado we will test your truck to come on bring it over here
Wished Toyota would build a 2500 HD and 3500 HD Tundra diesel.
I agree! I would be in line for one 👍🏾
Don't think they ever will
They have diesels in other countries, it's the "climate" crap epa ,that keeps them from being here .
Toyota is open to the idea but the states are giving them a hard time. Toyota already gots diesels but from what I was told by Toyota that it wouldn’t even be cost effective for them to go through all that emission bs with the United States.
They do make them with a cummins motor. However they cant get them to pass emmisions
The Tundra 5.7 being a 3/4...I mean 1/2 ton with a 4:30 diff, 6-S gears. I had zero problems towing a 35FT DBH plus a hugh toolbox in the bed from MI to Washington the state. I pulled it over the rookies with no problems. My Tundra has 270K, runs great,
The new ones don't have transmission coolers Toyota removed it
They also no longer make work trucks anymore the trim has been removed
You can get a extended can for 33k a grand cheaper then a f150 a fully load tundra is 22k cheaper then a fully loaded f150 excluding the raptor
I used to own a 2007 I wonder if toyota ever fixed the premature water pump failure issue they had with the 5.7
Definitely not 3/4 ton trucks bro
I think you provided a fairly objective review and I appreciate that. I will say that I worked for a RV dealer as their towing resource for a number of years and my personal truck is the Tundra with the 5.7l and I tow a 30' RV trailer that when loaded for camping, is 7,800 lbs. Would a 3/4 or 1 ton diesel pull it better? Sure! But, I only tow about 7-8% of the total annual miles I put on the truck each year, so I'm perfectly happy with the Tundra. First thing, as mentioned in the video, is a properly setup weight distribution system. That is a given even with a heavier duty 3/4 or 1 ton truck, but especially so on a half ton! However, while air bags will lift up the rear some, bags won't do anything to make it "feel" more in control when driving, just makes it "look" better. Air bags are helpful when you have cargo weight in the bed of the pickup over the rear axle such as a truck camper in the bed, hauling firewood, or even a fifth wheel hitch that sits 2" forward of the rear axle. When you have a bumper tow trailer, air bags don't do anything other than offer a cosmetic improvement.
Allen thanks for sharing! I do agree that 1/2 tons really do need a WDH and I may purchase one in the future to retest some of the half tons I’ve reviewed. The only HD truck I think needs a WDH is the GM trucks due to the IFS. My truck is long/heavy so a WDH would add little to no benefit. If I was towing at max conventional, this would be a different story 👍🏾
A Roadmaster active suspension addition is a good sibstitute for airbags, and it will improve handling also.
I've got a '14 Tundra that pulls a 36' Travel trailer (7500 lbs dry) with WDH and sway control. I do 70mph all the time unless I'm going up a steep hill. Never have any problems at all with it. Love my Tundra! Just wish they made a 3/4 ton!
WDH is the way to go, no debating that. Does not matter what the size of the towing truck is.
What type of WDH brand do you use
@@richardr.528 Not sure (can't remember). I will see if I can find out
May I ask if you have ever weighed your rig at a scale & what you axle weights were?
I’m concerned about being 600 lbs. overweight on my rear drive axle in my Sequoia according to a CAT scale. Thinking of buying a crew cab, long bed because we are over payload capacity & my young kids will only grow & bring more gear.
100% facts!! After 15yrs of camping on weekends and loading the 1/2 tons I've had I finally bought a 01 gmc 2500HD with the 8.1/Allison trans with 4.10 rear. Holy shit!!! Night and day difference and no more white knuckle driving. To be fair I was close to max tow on the half tons but now I've got way more truck I need with our 9k trailer. No I enjoy towing rather than dreading it.
So far I've towed over 11,000 miles coast to coast/north and south across the country (many times over many mountain passes) almost maxed out. I use a weight distribution/anti sway hitch. I also have air bags that keep it level and solid. It's also lifted with oversize tires. I can two finger drive it in high winds and even when passed by semis, although I usually don't LOL. This truck is solid as a rock and does amazing. Use manual and tow/haul. Nice video !
Appreciate the comment. You had your rig set up properly and I’m sure your tires were LT so that made it feel that much more secure. What were you seeing in MPG?
@@JB_WhoWork Towing? LOL. 7.5 - 8.5 mpg average depending on terrain. Daily driving about 14 mpg. Thank goodness for 38 gal tank. Correct, I have LT tires.
Not bad at all, I’ve heard of people getting 5-6 so 8.5< is good to me. Thanks for sharing 👍🏾
I’ve towed close to 15k miles the last two years in and around the mountains in Tennessee. I’ve been overall impressed with the truck, and have put a lot of miles on it. Towed small excavators for some of my jobs, took trailers, materials. The truck has the power to pull it. It’s just in keeping it under control up close to max weight that can be scary at times. I’ve just had to learn limits with what I’m comfortable towing over long distances. It’s been a great truck. If I were towing really heavy it would have to be a diesel. But I love Toyota’s so....
I'm in the same boat. I live in Southern New Mexico. And travel around the southwest and Colorado. My toy hauler is 7 thousand pounds and my toys is 24 hundred pounds. Plus all my camping gear. I have to be over my weight limit. The tundra us a beast. I can't find a reason to get a crappie 250. Did I mention I have over 250 thousand miles on it.
A trailer like that would require a weight distribution hitch with sway control. It would be worth doing this over with the proper hitch setup.
This guy needs a Weight Distribution Hitch for a better experience. Tundra super reliable.
And sway control
I agree, especially for a trailer that large. I only have a Tacoma and tow about 6K once in a while. It was SHOCKING how stable it is with the distributing hitch, as compared to without I could only go about 60 mph before it danced all over the place back there.
They shouldn't advertise the truck as in between a 1/2 ton and 3/4 ton if it can't handle a trailer that big that's probably smaller than what most people hook up to their modern 1500s even tho you should really go 2500 and up also 9k pounds of towing for again something advertised as
A "bigger" truck is pathetic oh and the interiors are god awful on any trim you get.
Yes I agree I tow a 5500 pound travel trailer with a 2020 tundra and it is very comfortable
Yes, and if you look at the specs for the Tundra, with a dead weight hitch the limit is 500 lbs, with a weight distribution hitch it's 1,020. Considering your tongue weight should be 10-15% of trailer weight, it puts the tongue weight for a 9,000 lb trailer at 900 lbs minimum. Certainly should have used a WDH with sway control.
Also, because it's a Max cab 4x4 with options, the max pay load is only 1,240. I just got a double cab sr5 2wd with 6.5 bed and it's payload is 1730, so I have no problem with two people and my modest travel trailer (4,700 dry) and a dual sport (300 lb) in the back. Still, I'm using a weight distribution/sway control hitch.
I have a 18 Tundra, with Tembren bump stops ,I have a 7 thousand pound toy hauler with WDH.. Those stock mirrors suck.. Put it Manuel mode an you can pass anybody.
I've got a 2014 Tundra. With a half ton towing 10k you really need to take the time to center the weight on the trailer axles. Slightly forward makes a big difference towing and eliminating the sway. I also put in trailer brakes, air bags and the heavy duty square bar sway bars. Every little bit helps.
I'm glad you pointed out the weight distribution hitch. I can't understand why anyone would not use one with a haft ton. It should be standard equipment .
I'd like to say a few things. I own a 2018 Tundra CrewMax, and I've towed pretty heavy with it on multiple occasions (10k lbs loaded dump trailer). Keep in mind, the Tundra is still only a half-ton, and therefore isn't as capable as a 3/4 or 1-ton truck. While 9000lbs is within the capabilities of the truck, you definitely pointed out that the Tundra feels pretty 'sketchy', and I would tend to agree with you. BUT, I'd temper that by saying that a half ton (any half ton) is probably most comfortable towing around 6000lbs. If you're towing close to the maximum rating often, you need a bigger truck, as you should only occasionally be towing close to the max (I know you know this, given that you have an HD).
With regards to the brakes, well, Tundra's brake controller needs to be set with quite a high gain. When you were testing out the brakes in the parking lot, it sounded like the Tundra's ABS was kicking on, and I'm pretty sure I heard tires screeching as the Tundra locked up its tires. On a trailer that big and heavy, I'd try setting the Gain closer towards the top end. Toyota has issued a few TSB's concerning the brake controller not being powerful enough, and I'm not sure if it would have been resolved on the truck you're driving here.
All that being said, when you keep the trailer loads reasonable, I find the Tundra to be a very capable hauler. The 5.7 is powerful, the transmission is responsive and decisive, and that 4.30 rear end is amazing. The Tundra is also a relatively heavy half-ton, which helps lessen the impact a trailer has on the truck.
I didn’t notice the brake controller having any issues and I had it set low. Thanks for sharing 👍🏾
You are correct with the trailer gain. Most people do not know how to setup electric trailer brakes.
The brakes of the trailer are for just that. It's for the trailer which means setting up the trailer brakes once both truck and trailer brakes are up to rolling temperatures.
Do some mild braking and if you are applying more brake to your truck than normal then that means more gain needs to be added. You are now using the truck to brake the weight of the trailer. Keep playing with the gain until you have your brake feel of the truck back to normal.
Now you have the brakes set up balanced.
Your brake gain on cold brakes will be way different than brake at proper rolling temperatures.
Payload wise my chevy 2500hd was better than my now 2019 Tundra. However!!!! That truck only had a tow rating of 9600 lbs and rode like a brick. Not to mention 10 mpg everywhere i went. My new tundra pulls my trailer better and gets better MPG both towing and unloaded. I was a loyal GM guy for 20 years but they went downhill after 06 IMO. Im loving the Tundra so far.
I’m thinking buy 5.7 tundra to use tow 10k loaded trailer. I only worrying about mpg when towing. What’s is your mpg?
@@ahmetefiloglu8253 Towing MPG is bad in every truck. I bet you would get about 8mpg towing maybe even less
Very Nice Truck. Let me share what I've done to mine. Added OEM Tow Mirrors, buy online through dealers, only cost $450 pair, local dealer wanted over $800. Best part, factory plug in adds side marker lights w/directional. Also best hitch made, Bulletproof, USA. Well worth the cost. Love my Tundra. Best of luck with yours.
Thanks for sharing 👍🏾
Still better to start with the tundra truck and adjust it to haul. It will be on the road a lot longer than any Dodge!
Damn Skippy!
Great video, pretty informative , just recently picked up our trailer and got a tundra to go with it, WD hitch and all. It tows fairly comfortably, but it’s kind of a difference of it can tow heavy VS Wants to tow heavy. If you want a DD that can tow the tundra fits the bill pretty well, but if you want a truck that will tow and can be a DD stepping up may be in order.
Pulling a trailer that big you need a good hitch with sway bars. I have 2017 tundra and pull a 30ft toy hauler full of toys total 10,000 lbs I have air bags with correct hitch and the tundra rocks the trailer over mountains I can run 65-70 mph no problem. I just really wish I got better gas mileage lol 😆 😪 😩 🙃
No 1/2 ton will pull 10k at 65 to 70mph over mountains.!!!!
@@verajavi12 all I can tell you is I do it all the time over a 5% grade my brother told it was not possible either until he made a trip with me and I pulled with him the whole way and he has a 2020 f350 diesel
@@verajavi12 are you certain about that ? Have you towed 10k with the 405 ft lbs of torque?
Great video. I love my Toyota tundra truck
Thank You! Great truck for sure 👍🏾
Awesome review. I think In general Toyota trucks can’t tow as much etc. But that Tundra will out last any Ford and Dodge by a long shot. Fords are notorious for transmission issues, electrical issues and turbos even with less than 50k miles on them.
Good video. Thanks for taking the time to do videos like this. Btw. You also failed to put a trailer coupler pin in place, not sure what the law is there but around here that will get you a fine. Cheers
Thank you! I lost it on my last tow video 😆😆😆
Dude I was laughing at your facial expressions when you got on the highway. That's the same shit I do when Im pulling my airstream with my tundra.
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Thanks bro I got a 4.6... but I’m only towing 6x12 uhaul with boxes of clothes in it ...I feel better now..
The Tundra can still handle it's own when it comes to towing especially compared to the big 3 with their constant updates. I test drove all 5 of the half ton V8s with my 7500# TT with WDH and surprisingly the Tundra seemed to have the best overall handling to power ratio. You can clearly tell they were built with towing in mind.
The Tundra has that 4.30 axle ratio which helps a ton. I think the Tundra surprised me for being a 14 year old powertrain/frame/suspension 👍🏾
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Toyota says you need a WDH for anything above 5k i think on the tundra. most of us also have the trd rear sway bar and an add a leaf or air bags when we tow our race cars with an enclosed. we also run the more aggressive front pad and the same race brake fluid in our cars.
Thanks for sharing!
I have a 2020 sr5 tundra . Until this truck I towed with diesel trucks. I’m here to tell you the way these trucks tow is UNREAL! If you want a dependable truck that will tow almost anything you put behind it buy one of these trucks. As you can tell I’m extremely pleased with mine.
Tundra is a great truck so long as you stay within the limits of it.
I use a Blue Ox weight distribution hitch like any educated person would do if they want to tow a heavy load. My 2019 Tundra pulls a 8800 pound 33 foot travel trailer and my tundra doesn’t sag an inch and pulls it just fine. I travel all over New England with it. Also, the length of your hitch will alter tongue weight.
How cool is this guy he should have his own television show
Thanks for the kind words 👍🏾
That trailer is WAY PAST needing a weight distribution type of hitch, with sway control.
Great job on the video.👍
Thanks 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork you seriously got 5pmh when towing on the highway?? what is the tundra normally?
@@wcsdiaries about 13-15 for daily driving
I pull a 31ft travel trailer, 6500lbs coast to coast, round trip annually, with my Tundra. Always averages around 9mpg. His 5mpg comment was him looking at the 'instantaneous' snapshot of the mpg at that moment.
@@thomasdean5651 If you're pulling into a headwind, 4-5 mpg can happen, even on relatively flat ground.
I pull my 38ft 9300lbs (Dry) travel trailer with my 5.7 2017 Tundra. I put airbags on and I have a weight distribution hitch and I still get that pucker effect every now and again. It definitely does the job but it does have that uncomfortable feeling. Being a truck driver who did over the road for quite awhile I don't get that pucker feeling very often.
I don’t care what I’m watching on RUclips. When I read the comments from my American people on any subject, it always has me rolling. lol
@jeremybrockington6494 We seem to have that effect on a lot of different cultures. To be fare a lot of different cultures have the same effect on us. 🤣
Agree with the adjustable lights. I use mine all of the time. Great to have them set low when driving slower in town, and then set them higher for more down-the-road spread when driving fast. That allows for more reaction time. Interior of Tundra, agreed as well...Meh. However, Tundras don't cost $70k either. 2021 Ford F150, $74,250; 2021 Toyo Tundra $53,050. That's a $21,000 difference (not counting the $1,450 tax difference at 7%...never mind if you have to finance). The difference will buy another car...for my wife. Note: the trailer he's using looks like a 24', which I looked up online (exact trailer) and found it to be 3800 lbs empty. The Charger Hellcat is 4586 lbs, for a total of 8386 lbs. That's some serious weight to pull with a standard truck (non 5th-wheel). Not saying it can't be done, but emergency situations may have dire consequences. Me personally, I would not tow that weight with that truck. I own a 2013 Tundra, also black, TRD-SR5 with a 4.30 rear axle ratio, and love it. Just put money into it for the first time ever: Brake job all around, including bleeding lines/flush, resurface and new brake pads, oil change-full synthetic of course, tire rotation and new lifetime battery. Total cost was $854.00 with a military discount of 10%, at the dealership. Not bad for a 8.5 year old truck. That breaks down to an average of $100 per year. I will admit that I only have 68k miles on her though. And, I've been in a GMC Sierra, XLT, with leather seats. I'll take my cloth seats over the Sierra's any day. They are larger and more comfortable. The Sierra seats are way too firm. Not to mention the cavernous back seat area which would swallow the Sierra back seat space. My kids love the space. I'm expecting to drive my T another 200k. Additional plus, my Tundra was built in Alabama, by American hands, not Mexico. Well, robotic AND human hands. Safety note: Complete ALL tasks prior to putting your car in drive, ie., seat belt. Great video and review. Well done!
Thanks for sharing 🙏🏽
I own a 2007 Tundra with 270k and still looks new, runs great. I pull a 35ft DBH. Never had an issue. Pulled it from coast to coast and over the Rockies. A Ford or Chevy would have issues.
I use a 2013 Tundra that was built for towing. 5.7L 6 speed auto 4.10 gears 2WD with positive lock. I have also added Firestone air bags to the back. I air them up to 20psi towing a Grand Design 2850MK 35 feet from hitch to rear bumper. (verified hitch weight with a scale of 800#). When I tow I use E-2 leveling and anti sway bar. I also added E rated tires. The only thing it does not like is hills ;-) Heated towing mirrors inside adjustable but manual pull out. I have not found a 3/4 ton truck under 10000# that is much better than what I have now... I have owned Ford, Ram, trucks in the past. I do not want to go over 10k because I would need more than a class C drivers license. Towing weight on my Toyota is 10200#. I am about 5% under. I have 4 years with this setup. California Driver... ;-)
Hey I like the flag on the back sides of your truck. I have a 2019 Toyota TRD Sport... bummed they did away with the trans cooler. Thanks for sharing your videos
I have a 2020 are you planning on adding one?
I just traded my 2018 Tundra Limited Crewmax for a RAM 2500. I loved my awesome Tundra but simply need a 3/4 truck for heavier towing that I do now. Love Toyota!
Great job on the review! I subscribed!
Thank You!
Would have been more interesting, if you had said that "You were towing the DODGE to the re-cyclers.
TFL needs to hire you!
Thanks! Yea I would like to collaborate with more people but not until I can go fulltime with YT 👍🏾
@C T he’s the owner so probably not gonna happen
No weight distribution? The controller isn't set beyond 3? Dude are you kidding? My trailer weight 4900 pounds dry and I use weight distribution, no squat and handles perfect, brakes very well. I have no idea why guys don't use and weight distribution. It's such a huge difference. Set the controller on 10.
Great video. Speaking from past experiences please put a pin in the coupler latch. I have had that latch pop up during a rough road.
Thanks bro! I had one but lost it on my last review. Since then it’s been replaced and I also have a backup 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork same here I also carry extra pins in my glove box. Trust me it is not cool when a trailer comes unhitched at 55 mph hauling 7,500 lbs in a half ton with no trailer brakes. Nobody got hurt and the 2006 tundra limited 4x4 rear bumper got some character and I almost needed to change underwear lol.
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I would probably tow with this setup, max a few times a month with a WDH set up properly. Any more frequently than that it's HD pickup time. That being said I like the Tundras.
Thanks for sharing! I agree that this truck at max with WDH would be a huge difference, but to your point, long trips and frequent towing would probably have me looking at HD trucks as next purchase.
Growing up, my dad had a lot of Toyota Tundras and I am a huge Toyota Land Cruiser fan 👍🏾
Yeah, HD's are made for weight, as he said at least once, you get spoiled by them when you actually have to tow often. I used to drive a large HD box truck and loved doing the heavy loads. Empty it was throwing me all over the cab. For some smaller loads I'd take my tundra (old 01 tundra) and even with just 800-1000 lbs in the bed it was just about on the bump stops. 1/2 ton trucks are casual towers, and people shouldn't get over excited about towing too much, especially constantly.... just get a bigger truck... you don't want wimpy running shoes in mud, use wide boots... the trucks size is like a big boot. Silly comparison, but it's true, haha.
I have airbags and 5th wheel I use twice a week. Never had any problems. Although the first thing I did my 2007 was upgrade the brakes.
My tundra will pull 12,000 with my weight distribution hitch. I could probably tow a little more idk I wouldn’t want to. But I’m highly impressed with my tundra. There a trick to helping them pull. But I’ll Keep that to myself.
let me tell you as a Tundra owner since 2004 ..I own the second Tundra a 2013 for now looking forward to upgrade if need it to the newly redesigned model...YOU NEED ACTUAL SWAY BARS ..when towing . Dont fall for that invisible built in sway bar hokus pokus !
As in, the rear undercarriage seat bar of the day bar coming from the hitch?
150K is break in for a Toyota
I have Toyota loving friends and they all sell them at 20 to 30K miles. They get tired of the Toyota experience which is boring and cheap feeling.
@@kimojon9665 Toyota’s are built better than ram and Chevy and Ford. Ram isn’t made by dodge it’s fiat Chrysler which by stellantis. You will be feeling cheap when your ram breaks down at low mileage and the tundra you traded in is still going down the road perfectly fine.
@@Gubers American trucks sale more cause they are cheaper made
@@Gubers comment back to me when you see a ram still driving down the road at 350K miles
@@Gubers ram and dodge aren’t the same companies. Stellantis is ram and they fall apart daily. Tundras hardly ever have issues at all with regular maintenance being done to them.
4:59 dis boi started up the truck hella fast😂
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If you have more than 500 lbs tongue weight on that class 1V hitch you need a weight distribution hitch. However, it doesn't look like 800 lbs because my horse trailer tongue weight is 795 lbs and my 2015 SR5 double cab sinks right to the bump stops if I don't have the weight distribution hitch on it.
I have a 2nd Gen Tundra with the LSD double cab and long bed(8ft) with the sr5 tow package (tow mirrors and bigger gas tank) and I really only recommend towing/hauling under 8k pounds. So far have 0 issues with my 2nd Gen towing Mostly 5-6k.
I recommend putting any truck to 4wd then putting on the Ebrake. Sometimes when loading trailers it'll lift the trucks rear wheels.
The 3rd Gen updated model tundra based off price and the package(looks like you have the 4th stage sr5 upgrade with tow package) which will set you back to 44k based off the 2021 pricing on the sr5 model.
For 44k you can get a Chevy 2500hd custom(or the WT trim). For 46k you can get the ram 2500. And 49k you can get the Ford f250 with the 7.3L(xlt trim).
The tundra is just not worth it in my opinion just based off its performance and what you're getting, Because with the 3 other trucks their interior is a lot better. Plus all the 3 trucks Is rated for these type of heavy towing and all of the other 3 trucks have a 8ft bed option with a full dual cab... Because it ain't a real truck if it ain't got no 8ft bed.
Thanks for sharing, good info 👍🏾
Great job! That was fun and informative!
Thanks 👍🏾
Like the review, I am a big Toyota fan. I always owned a Toyota, from 1983 and up. I have a 2014 Tundra, but I do not tow like you guys do, so a half ton works well for me. I would lime to understand why Toyota doesn't build at least a 3/4 ton for you big tow guys. I know it would get alot of people interested, like your tow class and alot of farmers too?
because they don't need to.. that tundra pulls better than any 2500 gm I've ever driven.. this guy doing this review needs a helmet on the short bus
You haven't towed much then. It comes down to control, the 2015 silverado 2500 I drove handled our 8x20 cargo trailer filled with concrete cutting equipment from Vegas to Reno like a dream. The 6.0 was somewhat sluggish compared to other trucks, especially newer, but it handled WAY better than my boss' 2016 Tundra. That was ball on hitch, no WD. You shouldn't need a WD hitch to justify owning a truck.
That said, when we did finally get a WD hitch the Silverado still handled better, especially against heavy cross winds. The Tundra is cool, but it's nothing special. No locking diffs, no rear diff breather tubes, anemic payload compared to other trucks (500lbs less than a new Ford Ranger, >1k less than most 3/4 ton offerings), piss poor gas mileage, etc. It's simply not a "work" truck the same way a 3/4 ton is. It isn't intended to be. You can't compare the two.
Great video JB.
I'm a owner of a 2017 Tundra Crewmax can speak that there are Tundra's Crewmax with a long bed similar to the size of a Tundra Double Cab. The Crewmax with a long bed are very hard to find but they do exist.
Tundra's are great at tolling but for "PERSONAL" tolling. Their not Super Heavy Duty haulers but I've met some business owners whom converted over from Dodge & Ford to the Tundra so that they can peacefully run their business and tow their business trailers. So some people do haul big trailers with their Tundra's without an issue but no it will not tow like a Dodge Cummins.
It's no secret, Tundra's are NOT truck owners looking to save on Gas MPG. They are built for being a reliable/dependable light duty truck. For people looking to tow and save gas they should look at Dodge, Chevy or Ford. But it's rumored that the 2022 Toyota Tundra will have a v6 turbo from the Lexus LS500 which may have 500 HP but will get better MPG. But we will find out sometime in February on this year.
Tundra are great reliable trucks and are VERY affordable to maintain but if you looking for heavy duty towing and good gas, you may want to look the diesel route.
Thanks! The Pros of not being redesigned, new tech, and new engines is the truck most likely will be bullet proof and there will be plenty of parts on the market should you need to replace something 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork All FACTS!
Does anyone else remember when the Tundra Towed the space shuttle?
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It’s probably the tires, they have to be I think e rated 12 ply to be a good tow tire. Bc the flex in the tread.
But it towed a space shuttle! 🤔
At 3 miles an hour 😂😂😂
It can go up to 30mph. They slow it down for the people, news, and advertisers to take the puctures and videos. Also, shuttle have three wheels, the wings are heavy that can tip over if running over 5mph.
This seems more like a "how not to tow" video. I'm glad you pointed out that bags and WDH would be better. You also need to take the Gain all the way up to 10 with a load that heavy. Would never attempt this weight in my Tundra or any other half ton for that matter. I tow my TT between 6500 and 7000lbs with air bags set to about 30-35 psi, appropriate Weight distribution hitch , and full gain on trailer brake controller. I wouldn't go any higher than that, and I'm just at my payload max. With that set up I feel very secure on the interstate. Again, if I had your load, I would only go HD truck.
Manufactures claim big tow numbers so my goal is to see if they can really tow that heavy and I can report you can’t. Everyone should do their own research and be sure not to exceed capacities. I’m 1 person in a tow vehicle without gear so I’m not making out these trucks 👍🏾
I have a 2014 Tundra with a 8’ Bed and The 430 rear end also Air Bags and it Pulls My 31’ 5th Wheel and Nitto Tires 1 Size Bigger - And Don’t Even Feel it’s Back Their ! I Try Very Hard NOT to Drive Over 60 for Safety. Had a Tire to Blow in My 250 Diesel Ford with Firestone Tires and Not Good. Tore Out The Whole Rear Fender ! I Think Of Others Driving Around Me , and Don’t Want To Have a Blow Out on My Camper. I Did Change To a 12 Ply Tire . Didn’t Like 10 Ply. I’m Pulling Over 9300 lbs. including Wife ! Love Love 💗 My 5.7 with The Toyota Cool TRD Air Intake. K&N I Think Better , But Didn’t Want To Void my Warranty with Toyota 🤷🏼♂️. Have a Great & Safe Day !!!
This comes down to expierence, pulling near a trucks max load can be extremely dangerous if you don't have the expierence but can be perfectly safe if you know what you're doing.
that trailer needs a wdh with sway controle. Do you even know what your tong weight with that setup? did you measure it? I tow a 28ft ATC toy hauler with a car in side that is 2750lbs. combined weight with car and trailer is around 9000lbs with gear and water. I use a blue ox wdh with say control. It tows perfect.
I agree. I tow a 33ft travel trailer with weight distribution hitch and sway control with air bags set at 40psi. It tows great. 5.7 tundra and the travel trailer is around 10k lbs loaded
They are missing the market. I love the 1794 edition. Best seats I sat in . My 25 ft boat and trailer max out the 8800 lb. What a shame. They need a 2500 size
I agree 👍🏾
Great video, safety first for sure. Your facial expressions are awesome, at times you look like you’re shitty your pants! :). All joking aside, I tow 4K with my Tundra and love it. Did you set your brake controller or just play with the gain a bit? I was told the proper way to set a controller is to test it and the trailer should stop the truck with the trailer brakes without locking them up. Did you do that off camera? Just curious. My concern is always coming to a stop. :). Great video and beautiful truck!
😂😂😂 thanks for sharing bro, good stuff 👍🏾
My 1794 I put in Boss air bags to level it out when towing my 10k trailer
I did the same and have a 20’ trailer with a 3000 car in it. Pulls fine!
Great video. I want to do some towing and would like to avoid the problems the other makes have.
I loved my tundra when I had it. Great family truck. Front jump seat, rear reclining seats, full window that lowers in the rear, and was able to handle light loads. Nothing too heavy or at the max... When I got my 5th wheel, had to upgrade to a Ram 3500 dually. Tundra's payload was very bad.
Thanks for sharing! A lot of Tundra guys switched over to RAM HD... I think Toyota has a void to fill 👍🏾
If your brake pedal is going to the floor then it needs either new brakes or its fluid is low. I've never ever had my pedal go to the floor ever in my Tundra.
Like with any vehicle you need to learn how to use it properly. If you go from a HD to a 1/2 ton of course there is a learning curve I would not make it a habit towing super heavy with it, but knowing it can do it every so often then yeah its a good thing. If you need to tow heavy often then like you said get a big truck pay the big price as well.
Forgot to mention the TRD off road version has different shocks than the SR5 4x4 so the SR5 doesn't squat as much. I have a 2020 Tundra 4x4 SR5 model and I tow 3000lb boat and trailer and forget its back there, doesn't squat at all at 3000 lbs haven't had to tow anything past 5000lbs so far.
Great video!
Just came across your video. Even though I don't row as heavy as you do, I just traded my 2020 Tundra SR5 for a 2021 GMC Sierra 1500 3.0L Duramax. I tow a 5k lb pressure washing trailer every week and the Tundra fuel mileage is bad to begin with without a trailer and way worse towing. I had been wanting a diesel for awhile and this fit the bill. Nothing but torque as soon as you step on the pedal with 460 ft lbs of torque at 1500 rpms. The Tundra is a good truck but it's nice to get 16mpg towing a trailer.
Wow thanks for sharing this! I can’t wait to hook my trailer up to a half ton diesel. Does your truck have a exhaust brake?
@@JB_WhoWork yes it does. When you activate tow/haul mode, it automatically activates the exhaust brakes.
You gotta do this test again with the weight distribution hitch!
I just traded a ram 1500 in for a 20 tundra sr5 crewmax in cement. 2019 n 20 Toyota omitted the external trans cooler which was a mistake especially for towing. My ram towed a 6700 pd. Boat n trailer with ease. The trans temp never got past 210 and stayed at 190.The Ram had a 8 speed trans. and a 330 differential. I haven't towed with the tundra and probably won't till I add a trans cooler once the warranty is up. I'm a truck driver by occupation and tow 48,000 pd loads on as regular basis. I always see F150s roadside hood up in the summer months with a trailer in tow.
Thanks for sharing Joe 👍🏾
The tundra is a great truck for light towing like small boats or equipment trailers but any half ton is pretty horrible over 5-6k. I have a 9k toy hauler and my 15 Tundra sucked ass compared to my Silverado 2500 when it came to towing.
I agree 👍🏾
You also don’t have a pin in the ball latch
After 2018 Toyota removed the transmission cooler from all Tundras. NOT COOL!
I have a 2016 Tundra crewmax limited with tow package. I tow a 8,500 lb Travel Trailer and use an equalizer WDH with 4 point sway control. I have now towed it over 30 hours, up steep hills, curves, hundreds of tractor trailers passing and no problems.
Wow, I like your video so much! Thanks for sharing!!! I'm currently having Tundra 2018 CrewMax Limited 2WD (Not 4x4). I'm going to get a RV trailer 7.5k lbs~25ft long soon. I installed Toyota TRD Swag Bar Rear on this truck a few years ago; I'm not sure what else will be best for towing this RV trailer. Any suggestions will be appreciated!!
I tow a 4,500lb trailer 4 days a week. I HAD a 5.7 Tundra and it towed just fine. I live in Utah so it had to be able to handle some steep hills and snow at times. It always got the job done. But I felt unstable on the freeway, and you always knew you were towing. You can feel every move that trailer makes. And the breaking can be sketchy at times. You mentioned almost everything I hated about towing with my tundra. Which is why I recently traded my 2019 Tundra for a 2020 Ram 2500 cummins. My first day towing with the ram... I almost wanted to cry at the difference. I feel so secure and safe with my Ram. Tundra gets the job done, for sure. But I wouldn’t recommend it for regular hauling or anything over 5000-6000lbs.
Thank you for your real world perspective! I have a RAM 1500 and I probably would never choose to tow with it unless I absolutely had to. What you experienced right out of the gate is the extra weight an HD has and when towing 5000#’s, you have pretty much matched the weight of your half ton but a HD weighs upwards of 7300#’s+.
@@JB_WhoWork exactly! I loved my tundra and never felt like it couldn’t do the job. But I just didn’t feel safe in it on the freeway when towing. I’d much rather pay the price tag for a HD for the peace of mind it gives me and how confident and secure it makes me feel. Plus Tundra is LONG overdue for an update. The interior is so dated and cheap!
Hmmm? I have owned since new, a 2001 Tundra 4.7L engine, 2 wheel drive & have towed my 10 foot enclosed trailer, fully loaded - stuffed = 6,000 lbs & 500 lbs tongue weight 50 times or so, sometimes a thousand miles & it towed amazingly, as if it liked that better than not towing, very smooth. It was hard to climb steep hills & hard to stop quickly but, I looked & planned ahead for those times. It won't die! It is still running at 370K miles & I did it's 1st timing belt at 290K. I wanted to see if it could go that far & the old belt looked good still. I will never tow a 24' trailer with 9,000K lbs so, I am looking forward to getting the newer 5.7L Tundra, maybe a 2017 or newer.
You are spot on. I love Toyota trucks, but I traded my 16 Tundra for a new F-250. Towing a 34' travel trailer on the highway with the Tundra was a bit scary at times. The Toyota had all the power in the world, but the trailer felt like it was in control. I miss the Toyota, but there is no comparison towing.
Yea, all Toyota has to do is build an in between truck like Nissan and allow it to tow a solid 12k. I’m hoping to try a double cab in the future 👍🏾
I hope you have better luck with the f250 than I had. A little advice trade it before 150,000 miles. That’s when the dpf begins to give trouble if it’s a diesel.
@@davidjordan6378 I don't really keep anything that long. But I work on diesels for a living and I won't spend my own money on one. The F250 is a 6.2. I have a 350 on order with the 7 3, hoping it arrives before Christmas.
@@jasonsims734 I have towed almost every day for years. I have towed 14000 pounds with my tundra only about 10 miles one way . It is unreal how that truck pulls. I was very careful when stopping which is it’s only weakness. I love it . Hope it holds up like everyone says it will.
@@davidjordan6378 I wanted to keep my Tundra. I think off the line it pulled better than the 6.2. But I agree, stopping was a little sketchy with a lot of weight and highway speeds with a travel trailer got a little unsettled. The salesman and Ford was trying to tell me how boring the Tundra was and I had to let him know, if Toyota built a heavy duty truck, him and I wouldn't be talking.
Why do people still insist on putting the chain hooks on upside down? At least you crossed the chains though.
I don't know what the RPMs were it sound like it was revving pretty high going out onto the highway
Wait, no weight distribution hitch? No wonder the thing sways all over the place, that’s crazy.
I finally bought my truck 😂. I bought a 2018 tundra crewmax limited. Mesquite brown on black leather. Only 16k miles. 4x4 trd off-road with those exact rims. I’m so in love with the truck. She’s beautiful!! I’m extremely happy with her. Took a while for me to narrow down my truck but I finally got it and I finally did it.
Ive towed upwards of 16k with my 08 tundra with 130k miles i prefer to not use tow haul and rear airbags help with braking and sway to the point where its a night and day difference worth every penny!
Nice review. Just bought a 2014. I tow small trailers only.
Great video well done thank you so much
still waiting to see Ram, Dodge, Chevy or ford tow a space shuttle.. if they already did,, please leave a link... thanks.
Lol
I believe Toyota requires a weight distribution hitch for that tongue and trailer weight. That’s really an unsafe towing situation. Even Ford Super Duty’s require a weight distribution hitch for those weights!
I have a 2015 Platinum and your comment of feeling tired and not wanting to travel for very long is, DEAD ON BALLS ACCURATE!
Ha thanks bro 👍🏾
I just picked up at 15 sequoia platinum. Any feedback when attempting to occasionally heal a 10k lbs camper other than a weight distribution hitch with sway bars?
What are you towing? Car and single trailer ok?
Awesome review, nice job! Cheers
Thank You!
I’m not a Toyota guy at all but I feel this was a little unfair to the truck. A WDH as you said would make a significant difference. Isn’t it a requirement on a 1/2 ton truck for that type of weight? LT tires would also help.
Was the truck in 6th gear at 60 mph? I bet manually selecting 5th would improve the experience as well.
Thanks for sharing. I am planning to do the exact same thing with every truck I test. Towing a cargo trailer in MD does not require a WDH but if i owned a half ton specifically to tow this trailer, I would definitely install one. This trailer is being towed by my 1 ton RAM so no need for the WDH.
I am unbiased even with my own trucks, take a look through my videos 👍🏾
I agree that you are unbiased. I just think the potential to make the tundra experience better is possible without too much work.
I would like to see you do the same test with a 20 or 21 Titan. XD and Regular of course.
I manually select gears with my Tundra when towing. Keeps the engine speeds in a more efficient range. Less lugging.
Yea, that's why I bought the cab and a half, I wanted the 6.5 feet bed! I don't ride in the backseat nor does anyone else!
Owning 2 since 2009 (2009 and 2014) they're great trucks, no big issues...
The only annoying issues I've had is (1) fuel mileage which for the 5.7 has and continues to suck, without towing in the city maybe 14 or 15 mph, highway maybe 17 or 18! (2) 2nd generation 07-13 those dumb air pumps, which mine went bad after 30,000 miles I just bypassed them for the next 100,000 miles no more issues. (3) brakes, they eat the 11.5 inch disks like candy, my 2009 I had for 14 years and probably changed brakes 7 times!
Recently saw your tow video with the 24 tundra. looking back how would you compare the 2nd and 3rd gen towing experience you had? @jbreviews
Thank you for the review, I’m looking to get arid of my 2007 Silverado 1500hd classic. The tundra sr5 on paper should be a better truck all around, and this review really helped.
I have a 2013 Tundra , no brake controller and small tank 28 gallons . I read in 2014 they upgraded to 38 gallons after many complaints and in 2016 and on Brake controllers are standard on all Tundras ....Damn i should have gotten a 2016
My das has a 2021 tundra trd sport and we max tow with it all the time when we go camping 😅
The trailer u towing is Empty ? Or tell me how many load capacity u load inside... Just want to know
Way too much trailer for that truck, and it’s a bad test and bad judgement without a WDH.
I've driven tractor trailers for years , it has always cracked me up the weight people try to pull with pickups any pickup, I've seen much destruction on the roads with these huge travel and dump trailers crashed and broken, it's just a pickup use it as such , if these heavy duty trucks were so great huge trucking companies would buy them and not 250000 dollar tractors
isn't carrying 80,000lbs in a btrain better than 10 on 8 1 ton trucks? I'm pretty sure they do it for payload and not upfront cost of the tractor.
B trains can carry 120 to 140 thousand in some states and Canada
@@ronaldmercer9616 140000lbs is max gross here where I live about 95000lb payload
Thanks got your video because I love Toyota but unfortunately I see I'm going to have to buy a 3/4 ton truck to pull my 40' travel trailer. Question for me is as far as reliability and for a daily driver which of the big 3 should I go with? I too wish Toyota made a 2500. Thanks again
Sierra HD will not disappoint you
I own a 2014 Tundra with the 5.7L, and ive towed a 31ft travel trailer from Ga to the West coast a couple of times. Weight of trailer 6500lbs. That's really the practical limit when towing in the mountains. Yes, you need a weight distribution hitch with an antisway bar attached to it. Why you do your tests pulling a 9000lb, 35ft trailer without that equipment i do not understand. Of course youre going to get some sway and load issues. Its a half-ton truck. That load you pulled is at its "rated" limit. Those limits are worthless for tall, long trailers when conditions such as crosswinds, mountain driving, etc are factored in. Just my opinion, but i wouldnt tow more than 70% of the tow rating in the conditions i just described.
That’s a awesome looking hitch,, does it allow tailgate to open without hitting the trailer jack?
Awesome video bro. I recently got my 2020 TRD sport. And I do love it. Yesterday, I towed with it for the first time. Pulled a 2,300lb trailer with a 08 ford explorer on top. Roughly 7,600. Total and towed with no issue .
Did you know? U-haul will not rent you car transport unless you have a 3/4 ton truck or more.
Wow I did not know that… Is that state specific or across the board?