I live 10 minutes north of where he landed. The icing conditions came in suddenly as there was cars sliding on the thruway all morning. It's a feat that he landed safe and there were no injuries.
Which is interesting because he could have had a road accident after landing. Instead, he coasted to a stop and pulled over...awaiting the tow back to the airport.
From the timestamps this happened in the afternoon? Either way likely ample time to check for weather, also considering it was in a cold winter region to start with.
I love that after 4:50 where ATC says the distance to the airport, he immediately switches to the distance for the highway. You never want to pressure a pilot to try for the airport.
Very smart to seek to get that craft on the ground - we can credit the pilot for that though he might have avoided the situation in the first place. And the plane is in one piece to boot (link to video of it rolling out below). Lesson learned.
@@donmoore7785 exactly, he quickly found himself at a fork in the road and chose quickly and wisely. We don’t know EXACTLY what information or what was available before takeoff.
Would you still think it was smart if he landed on your family driving down the highway because he decided to fly into known icing in an unprotected airplane?
Lucky this ended on the highway with no deaths instead of like the Bonanza who tried to divert in the same area and similar conditions recently which was fatal. Juan Brown reported on that. Kudos to these guys for making the decision to get on the ground right now... even if they didn't get there. Looks like he made it without damage. Lucky to be making it to Christmas this year.
This was near where I live, huge news story for the area. Really impressive landing and so happy he was able to keep everyone safe. Also very happy to hear the audio on your channel, thanks for covering it!
Nice job also by ATC, immediately gave everything they wanted, and only gathered information after operative things were done. Also got an aircraft to relay when the airplane dipped below where they could reach it.
Amazing? He distracts the pilot completely unnecessarily in this highly critical phase of the flight by asking the pointless question of whether he will make it to the airport. Of course the pilot doesn't think he can make it when he has already decided to make an emergency landing on a road! The controller also asks twice about souls on board, completely unnecessary for a small airplane!
I live in the area, big news story at the time. By the way, the pilot is only 19! The map at the end showed the wrong area. This was south of Albany, at the interchange with I-787.
I would like to know the answer to two questions to learn from this experience: 1. Are his engines normally aspirated and if so, did he use Carb Heat when they shut down? 2. If the engines are the fuel injected version was he using alternate air while in icing conditions? It would be of great benefit for all of us to know for sure these facts to understand better the overall situation.
My first thought was induction icing of some sort. I’m not familiar with the Travel Air but some alternate air is automatic (spring loaded door opened by vacuum pressure) and others are manually opened.
Severe icing can overwhelm carb-heat, block intakes and ice over fuel vents lead to fuel starvation. That's before we get into the aerodynamic effects where you fall out of the sky! Take the statement "Flight into known icing is prohibited" seriously, icing is a killer and not forgiving.
The landing spot was farther south than where you zoomed in. It was near the junction of I-87 and I-787, on the other side of the city of Albany from the airport.. The brick building you can see in the photos of the left side of the plane is the NY Thruway Authority headquarters, a prominent landmark on that part of the freeway. The road in that area makes a long curve, upping the difficulty factor for this landing.
I came here to say this. The plane landed just south of the big curve on the south side of Albany on the i87 part of the Thruway, not where the graphic shows
To add to it, there is some video shot from a car that was behind him. He landed on a _bridge_ that is down in a hole over a long drop to the river and basically rolled up to the lawn to the NYS Thruway Administration building. Incredible bit of piloting.
Glad it all ended well! I like how the tower asked him if he shut down both engines after he landed... right after he just told them that he had lost both engines LOL
What a blessed outcome... Wow! A 'Well done!' to the pilot for sure, and to ATC for relaying the comms and staying in continuous contact with the pilot. Thank you for this _excellent_ content!
@@nathanwildthorn6919I am a pilot, are you? Flying an unprotected airplane into known icing is foolish. Handling the resulting emergency doesn’t deserve a pat on the back. He could have killed innocent people on the highway because he decided to ignore the weather and fly into this situation. That’s perspective.
@brianrice8015 Yes, I am. Just under 5000 hrs. I learned to fly in Fairbanks and Anchorage, AK, and completed my ratings (IFR, Multi, and Commercial) at Golden State Flying Club KSEE. In Alaska, flying in bad--but not severe weather is more common than those that fly in the Lower 48 realize. Some people see the silver lining in a cloud, whereas others see only the cloud.
@@nathanwildthorn6919 People flying in bad weather in Alaska has nothing to do with someone flying a travel air into known icing conditions in Albany, NY. If after 5000 hours you still want to pat this guy on the back then nothing I have to say is going to matter to you. I hope you either have given up flying, or apply more common sense to your flying than this guy.
Good work? My favorite aviation quote: “Superior pilots use their superior judgement to AVOID situations where they have to use their superior skills”. This pilot put himself, his passengers, motorists, and his plane at risk. Luckily it worked out. Not so sure that deserves praise.
Thanks for the video! Small correction on the map used: the aircraft landed about 11km (7 miles) south-east of the location displayed in the video. That building is the New York State Thruway Authority. Coordinates 42°37'38"N 73°46'43"W
@@supraphonic88 can't do better than right in front of the NYS Thruway Authority's HQ. Highway maintenance workers are based right there. NYS Police Troop T is always near on the Thruway. Fire/EMS would take the longest.
That audio literally made me tear up at the end! With all of the tragedies has been happening awesome decision-making with a great outcome even though it wasn’t one he probably wanted. Good work by all involved.
Awesome decisionmaking might be to stay on the ground with what looks like no anti icing (no boots to be seen) in this weather. However, that is one hell of a successful forced landing! Amazing job.
5:37 right highway, wrong section. he landed about 6 miles south of there, just shy of exit 23, on the south side of the city. they're lucky. not only did they land right next to the NYS thruway authority, where there is also a state police barracks (literally the buildings you see in the background of the picture at 5:32), so they would've gotten help quickly, but right before where they stopped was a bridge over a small river and a bike path. if they had slid off there, they would've plummeted ~100 feet, and it would've been difficult for any rescuers to reach them.
I've traveled that area of the Thruway often. Depending on your direction, it's either just before, or after the merge to I-90. The road is pretty wide at that point.
Hello. Hoping to start flight lessons soon, and I have a question. Would carb heat have potentially prevented this problem, or does that reduce power to the point of causing the same essential outcome, when not on final?
The Thruway will also charge him at least $100 - New York Title 21, Section 102.1(20)(ii). If the trooper can get you towed off the highway before the Thruway people show up, you may not have to pay, but given that he landed right in front of the Thruway headquarters building it will be hard to avoid in this case.
@@tommaxwell429 did you read up on the whole situation? Considering that he felt he couldn't make it back to the airport so he chose to land in the best possible place? Yeah, I think he did a great job. No deaths, no serious damage.
@@andybiz4273 Yeah I read it and watched the video and listened. And the whole time I kept asking myself, "Why the heck did he even take off." Sorry, just can't get past that decision.
Wonder if that aircraft has alt air lever and what the emergency procedures are in those conditions. I bet since he reported to have to turn engines off at landing that he might have had ice build up.
This guy was in trouble when he requested to divert but didn’t communicate that until on final. Look at his airspeed during the descent. He was a glider when he asked to divert.
Yep dude landed it on a bridge.... or just before and brought it to a stop over the bridge. There was not flat field in area, except for a golf course about a half mile to the west. NY doesn't have smooth terrain all over. For the most part, just trees and buildings around.
Responders do need that info in case the plane does not land safely. It's not ideal, but they do need a number before the plane hits the ground in order to stage a potential rescue.
And also making sure that the engines have been shut down... Of course it is a good idea to shut down the engines when you have landed on a highway and potentially people will approach the plane, but wasn't the entire reason for the emergency landing that both the engines had failed??
The Thruway is the paid toll highway, versus the other interstates that are just standard highways. The NYS Thruway is two highways: I-87 and I-90, and goes from outside NYC north to Albany, and west to Buffalo and towards Erie, PA.
To add to @manifestgtr comment - this particular highway is i87 which starts in South Bronx NYC and ends on the Canada border south of Montreal where it becomes Canada/Quebec highway A15. It's one of the most important highways in NY State.
It comes from a time, that still happens today where aircraft will carry bodies. It is important, for if they had "3 souls on board" when the rescue crews arrive, they will know, on body already exists. So they look for three survivors.
NYS SP and other state aircraft (when they have them) are GREY1 through N. The State Police Aviation Unit flys them. They have a few Bell helicopters and at least one King Air that the Governor gets to use on official duties.
He was lucky didnt ice on roads make him think is it too bad to fly if as a previous writer said it had been icy all morning dont fly or uf you get up say to ATC skies quiet today snd land promptly
Terrible decision to go flying in those conditions. That was some pretty crappy weather rolling through the area and it was not a surprise to anyone. No deicing or anti-icing equipment on that aircraft, he never should have gone out on that day. Glad everyone came out of this unscathed.
@@sncy5303 Just tree's, no flat land in that area because of the Normans Kill.... Would have ripped the wings off stuffing into trees or crashed it into development outside of the city or the city itself or into a side of a hill. In fact he landed it on a bridge on I-87 as there is a video of him rilling to a stop as he comes of the bridge. Maybe if he had enough energy he could have landed on the golf course half mile to the west, but I doubt that. This is where he put it down maps.app.goo.gl/coPoftJX3bVXK4jr8
@@sncy5303 I mean, it's Albany. Like, right over the city. He wasn't exactly in the countryside when the engines failed, he was 4-ish miles from the airport. His base leg took him right over downtown. There's literally nowhere to put it down except on a road. You've got Latham to the east, Roessleville to the south, and the Mohawk River to the north. To the west there's a bunch of developments and forest, no fields, at least not when he lost his engines.
Thankful everyone was safe but why the constant souls and fuel questions in an emergency. Now, not in this case, but usually the controllers don't pass it on to the next controller is also frustrating as hell. Understandably when it's an airline and they've lost an engine but a small craft and they've lost both engines? Quit asking. They have more pressing concerns.
This is not a case of a hero pilot. He violated regulations by flying into known icing conditions. No respect for weather and paid for it. Entertaining hearing all the non-Aviators chime in though.
Both engines failed? So he ran out of fuel is all that means and he was trying to blame it on "icing". Stupid mistake, obvious is obvious. You don't need to work for the NTSB to figure this one out.
There is about a 1,000% chance I would not fly a Beechcraft 95 in icing conditions.... In fact I wouldn't fly a Beechcraft 95 if icing were forecast and I could remain below the freezing level. In fact I'm not sure I would fly a Beechcraft 95 if IMC were forecast. Y'all gotta start setting some personal minimums, lest you end up on VAS, Blancolirio, or Hoovers channel...
Piston engines, so it could well be carb icing. The flight plan was for another destination, and they decided to divert and cut the trip short, so fuel starvation seems unlikely? Unless it was a matter of selecting the wrong tank.
Exceptions to Juan’s rule. Low power descent allows ice to build up. Won’t notice until you try to add power. This is why it’s a good idea to ‘clear’ the engines every 1000 feet or so. You’re not clearing them, you’re testing for ice buildup so there is enough time to respond.
@@weekendflyer3673 Was going to say exactly the same thing. I learnt on a PA28 20 years ago and during my PPL checkride we have some noticeable carb icing on descent. If I wasn't on checkride I may have forgotten to occasionally power up/carb heat to clear any ice. Wouldnt have been nice if it'd been during a flare...
Clear case of ice building up against the air filter, called induction icing. People think because they have fuel injected engine and that they won’t develop carburetor ice, but that doesn’t mean they won’t clog up with ice and stop running. He did not select alternate air, which is the fuel injected equivalent of carburetor heat
Carburetor icing? Shouldn't kill both engines exactly at the same time though.. Nice landing anyway 😀 On second thought; if both engines had accumulated ice in the throttles, both could theoretically die immediately when power is adjusted during descent.. I used to fly a C172 with fuel injected Continental engine and yes it was susceptible to icing in the throttle althought it had no actual carburetor. I didn't encounter it myself but some other pilots claimed they did..
@ yeah that’s a good point. I mean it’s possible but unlikely. If they both failed exactly the same moment that that’s fuel exhaustion or mismanagement
Didn't look like a good idea to fly through all that with that little unprotected BE95...
Should never had descended into that ice without trying to fly a better VFR diversion
Wonder if he tried Carb Héat? I know the 95 can be retro for FIKI as well. Obviously unsure about this one. See them up here in AK.
@@idkjames never seenna baron with carbys before
@davefoord1259 thought it was a travelair??? Also, some barons def would have carb heat. Depending on engine.
I believe he had induction icing
At least he was smart enough initially to try to land immediately.
Exactly!!! Soooo many pilots trying to land small planes or helicopters when they have just seconds to land or died
Totally. Good call by PIC. No injuries and AC is fine to fly another day.
Smart enough to try to land but not smart enough not to take off!
He watches Gryder
I live 10 minutes north of where he landed. The icing conditions came in suddenly as there was cars sliding on the thruway all morning. It's a feat that he landed safe and there were no injuries.
Strange how that happens in the Winter(especially). 🥶
@@se2103 OK, you did 5th Grade HOW MANY TIME?
All morning is not suddenly. He should have known better than to take off.
Which is interesting because he could have had a road accident after landing. Instead, he coasted to a stop and pulled over...awaiting the tow back to the airport.
From the timestamps this happened in the afternoon? Either way likely ample time to check for weather, also considering it was in a cold winter region to start with.
I love that after 4:50 where ATC says the distance to the airport, he immediately switches to the distance for the highway.
You never want to pressure a pilot to try for the airport.
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Merry Christmas!
Love the good outcome for the pilot and pax, always a bonus when you can use the aircraft again after a forced landing. :)
Very smart to seek to get that craft on the ground - we can credit the pilot for that though he might have avoided the situation in the first place. And the plane is in one piece to boot (link to video of it rolling out below). Lesson learned.
But not smart enough to not take off! What was he thinking? Clearly icing conditions and he wasn't prepared for it.
@@donmoore7785 exactly, he quickly found himself at a fork in the road and chose quickly and wisely. We don’t know EXACTLY what information or what was available before takeoff.
Would you still think it was smart if he landed on your family driving down the highway because he decided to fly into known icing in an unprotected airplane?
Wow! It's crazy that the managed to land on the freeway and stay intact..
Lucky this ended on the highway with no deaths instead of like the Bonanza who tried to divert in the same area and similar conditions recently which was fatal. Juan Brown reported on that. Kudos to these guys for making the decision to get on the ground right now... even if they didn't get there. Looks like he made it without damage. Lucky to be making it to Christmas this year.
Why does the White Lily always have to be mentioned somewhere in this comment section?
I saw Juan video a couple days ago, that was tough one to listen to
looking at foreflight yesterday that entire area had an airmen for severe icing. Induction icing? Lucky landing. Hopefully lessons learned.
Carbureted engines injecting ice pellets?
This was near where I live, huge news story for the area. Really impressive landing and so happy he was able to keep everyone safe. Also very happy to hear the audio on your channel, thanks for covering it!
Nice job also by ATC, immediately gave everything they wanted, and only gathered information after operative things were done. Also got an aircraft to relay when the airplane dipped below where they could reach it.
Plus sounded like training was in progress. Quite the training session.
This controller is amazing, very impressed. Cheers from a french ATCO ! TY VAS, merry christmas!
Amazing? He distracts the pilot completely unnecessarily in this highly critical phase of the flight by asking the pointless question of whether he will make it to the airport. Of course the pilot doesn't think he can make it when he has already decided to make an emergency landing on a road! The controller also asks twice about souls on board, completely unnecessary for a small airplane!
I’m just guessing but if both engines shut down I’d suspect induction icing… great job handling the emergency situation…
Loved the metar on the starting screen. Thanks VASA!!!
I live in the area, big news story at the time. By the way, the pilot is only 19! The map at the end showed the wrong area. This was south of Albany, at the interchange with I-787.
I would like to know the answer to two questions to learn from this experience: 1. Are his engines normally aspirated and if so, did he use Carb Heat when they shut down? 2. If the engines are the fuel injected version was he using alternate air while in icing conditions? It would be of great benefit for all of us to know for sure these facts to understand better the overall situation.
My first thought was induction icing of some sort. I’m not familiar with the Travel Air but some alternate air is automatic (spring loaded door opened by vacuum pressure) and others are manually opened.
We'll likely have to wait for the NTSB report.
@@dcviper985 Pilot Error - Flight into icing conditions without proper equipment.
Severe icing can overwhelm carb-heat, block intakes and ice over fuel vents lead to fuel starvation. That's before we get into the aerodynamic effects where you fall out of the sky!
Take the statement "Flight into known icing is prohibited" seriously, icing is a killer and not forgiving.
The landing spot was farther south than where you zoomed in. It was near the junction of I-87 and I-787, on the other side of the city of Albany from the airport.. The brick building you can see in the photos of the left side of the plane is the NY Thruway Authority headquarters, a prominent landmark on that part of the freeway. The road in that area makes a long curve, upping the difficulty factor for this landing.
I came here to say this. The plane landed just south of the big curve on the south side of Albany on the i87 part of the Thruway, not where the graphic shows
To add to it, there is some video shot from a car that was behind him. He landed on a _bridge_ that is down in a hole over a long drop to the river and basically rolled up to the lawn to the NYS Thruway Administration building. Incredible bit of piloting.
Three people have lots to be thankful for this Christmas season!
Merry Christmas, Victor, to you and yours!
Really excellent ATC...... most impressed with these guys.
sure.. distract the pilot repeatedly asking souls on board at a critical point in the landing when it doesn't make any GD difference.
I'm amazed he was able to find space to land on the thruway. It's rather busy there.
Glad it all ended well! I like how the tower asked him if he shut down both engines after he landed... right after he just told them that he had lost both engines LOL
Maybe Tower was just doing an idiot check?
Just following procedure 😂
Has more to do with fuel and ignition than the engines actually spinning
Nice job guys!
Enjoy your Christmas!
Merry Christmas, Vic! Finallys, some good news!
Victor, Felix Navidad! Thanks for great videos.
What a blessed outcome... Wow! A 'Well done!' to the pilot for sure, and to ATC for relaying the comms and staying in continuous contact with the pilot. Thank you for this _excellent_ content!
I don’t think you should get a pat on the back for putting yourself in a totally avoidable emergency situation.
@brianrice8015 You're not a pilot, are you..? Perspective is very important.
@@nathanwildthorn6919I am a pilot, are you? Flying an unprotected airplane into known icing is foolish. Handling the resulting emergency doesn’t deserve a pat on the back. He could have killed innocent people on the highway because he decided to ignore the weather and fly into this situation. That’s perspective.
@brianrice8015 Yes, I am. Just under 5000 hrs. I learned to fly in Fairbanks and Anchorage, AK, and completed my ratings (IFR, Multi, and Commercial) at Golden State Flying Club KSEE. In Alaska, flying in bad--but not severe weather is more common than those that fly in the Lower 48 realize. Some people see the silver lining in a cloud, whereas others see only the cloud.
@@nathanwildthorn6919 People flying in bad weather in Alaska has nothing to do with someone flying a travel air into known icing conditions in Albany, NY. If after 5000 hours you still want to pat this guy on the back then nothing I have to say is going to matter to you. I hope you either have given up flying, or apply more common sense to your flying than this guy.
wow...nice landing!
GREAT JOB MAKING A *SAFE* OFF FIELD LANDING!
Well done by all involved.
Quick thinking nice work!
Really good fast thinking from the pilot.
…which was necessary after he got himself into that situation.
Congrats! You survived!!
Here I am clapping at the screen seeing that aircraft in pristine condition on the highway. Good work pilot. Best way to end a bad day flying.
Good work? My favorite aviation quote: “Superior pilots use their superior judgement to AVOID situations where they have to use their superior skills”. This pilot put himself, his passengers, motorists, and his plane at risk. Luckily it worked out. Not so sure that deserves praise.
Thanks for the video! Small correction on the map used: the aircraft landed about 11km (7 miles) south-east of the location displayed in the video. That building is the New York State Thruway Authority. Coordinates 42°37'38"N 73°46'43"W
Agreed, the photos show a 65 MPH speed limit which is south of exit 24 on the Thruway part of I-87.
@@francissager3133 Yeah, just south of Exit 23 (the I787 exit) I believe. Now did the pilot have EZ-Pass......
@@mgzuck They got him with the plate reader. Bill is in the mail.
Lucky place to land too, they got highway crews out the door immediately.
@@supraphonic88 can't do better than right in front of the NYS Thruway Authority's HQ. Highway maintenance workers are based right there. NYS Police Troop T is always near on the Thruway. Fire/EMS would take the longest.
That audio literally made me tear up at the end! With all of the tragedies has been happening awesome decision-making with a great outcome even though it wasn’t one he probably wanted. Good work by all involved.
Awesome decisionmaking might be to stay on the ground with what looks like no anti icing (no boots to be seen) in this weather.
However, that is one hell of a successful forced landing! Amazing job.
@@marcelb3645 totally agree with you if he knew there would be ice ahead. I do appreciate that he attempted to escape the poor weather.
5:37 right highway, wrong section. he landed about 6 miles south of there, just shy of exit 23, on the south side of the city. they're lucky. not only did they land right next to the NYS thruway authority, where there is also a state police barracks (literally the buildings you see in the background of the picture at 5:32), so they would've gotten help quickly, but right before where they stopped was a bridge over a small river and a bike path. if they had slid off there, they would've plummeted ~100 feet, and it would've been difficult for any rescuers to reach them.
Nice of him to take the exit off the highway.
I've traveled that area of the Thruway often. Depending on your direction, it's either just before, or after the merge to I-90. The road is pretty wide at that point.
Long nose peterbilt is nice.heavy hauler is probably say men this is the easy load I ever done 😂
My home airport, was waiting for this video to come out.
Hello. Hoping to start flight lessons soon, and I have a question. Would carb heat have potentially prevented this problem, or does that reduce power to the point of causing the same essential outcome, when not on final?
Bet that was an expensive tow bill. Glad all ok
I wonder if he had to pay the thruway toll?
From the moment any emergency is declared, that's the insurance company's plane!
"Any landing you can walk away from" as they say. This time they can even reuse the aircraft, so that's a good landing, even if in the wrong place.
I wonder whether he got a parking ticket (Sir, you cannot park there)
The Thruway will also charge him at least $100 - New York Title 21, Section 102.1(20)(ii). If the trooper can get you towed off the highway before the Thruway people show up, you may not have to pay, but given that he landed right in front of the Thruway headquarters building it will be hard to avoid in this case.
I live a little north of there, the pilot did a great job!
How so! A great pilot would have stayed on the ground. Great pilots don't put themselves into these situations.
@@tommaxwell429 did you read up on the whole situation? Considering that he felt he couldn't make it back to the airport so he chose to land in the best possible place? Yeah, I think he did a great job. No deaths, no serious damage.
@@andybiz4273 Yeah I read it and watched the video and listened. And the whole time I kept asking myself, "Why the heck did he even take off." Sorry, just can't get past that decision.
Pilot commented in a Facebook group and said induction icing
Wonder if that aircraft has alt air lever and what the emergency procedures are in those conditions. I bet since he reported to have to turn engines off at landing that he might have had ice build up.
This guy was in trouble when he requested to divert but didn’t communicate that until on final. Look at his airspeed during the descent. He was a glider when he asked to divert.
The Christmas miracle story we all wanted.
Is atc hammering nails in the background?
Good job man.... 👏
why do people think they can fly in this icing condition in a small airplane.
Not sure why he thought it a good idea to go up in the first place, but once up, he had to come down somewhere.
Additional footage of 61Q rolling on the highway. m.ruclips.net/video/ia2-BFXWhBY/видео.html
Yep dude landed it on a bridge.... or just before and brought it to a stop over the bridge. There was not flat field in area, except for a golf course about a half mile to the west. NY doesn't have smooth terrain all over. For the most part, just trees and buildings around.
That pilot needs to go buy a lottery ticket
Considering what happened with the last one, this is a happy result.
Both engines fail at the same time? How much fuel remaining? Just a moment before he stated there was no icing. And why aren't the props feathered?
ALB my home airport!
Beautiful. All's well that ends well.
I guess the airplane is ok, no injuries, and three people need new underwear, pants, socks, shoes, and to buy some lotto tickets.
How much fuel on board?
Why do so many aircraft have engine issues?
So you zoomed in on the airport at the end of the video instead of there the plane went down.
Just saying from someone that grew up in the area.
Seems like this is occurring waaaay to often
Trying to land on a highway and ATC _still_ insists on knowing "souls on board" at that very moment.
Responders do need that info in case the plane does not land safely. It's not ideal, but they do need a number before the plane hits the ground in order to stage a potential rescue.
And also making sure that the engines have been shut down...
Of course it is a good idea to shut down the engines when you have landed on a highway and potentially people will approach the plane, but wasn't the entire reason for the emergency landing that both the engines had failed??
@@Rob2 Shut them down manually once you commit to the forced landing, a surprise restart could ruin your whole day even worse!
Not insists, asks. The pilot answers, if possible.
@@AN-12345 .. no they don't. They can determine what response is required when they see what injuries there are, like in this case NONE.
What is a Thruway?
That’s what New York calls certain interstate highways
The Thruway is the paid toll highway, versus the other interstates that are just standard highways. The NYS Thruway is two highways: I-87 and I-90, and goes from outside NYC north to Albany, and west to Buffalo and towards Erie, PA.
To add to @manifestgtr comment - this particular highway is i87 which starts in South Bronx NYC and ends on the Canada border south of Montreal where it becomes Canada/Quebec highway A15. It's one of the most important highways in NY State.
Souls, always, to me, makes it sound presumptive they died.
It comes from a time, that still happens today where aircraft will carry bodies. It is important, for if they had "3 souls on board" when the rescue crews arrive, they will know, on body already exists. So they look for three survivors.
Nice job N61Q…….!👍🏼👍🏼
How common or unusual is it to loose both engines at the same time? Any possible reasons why this may occur?
Icing
Good job! Now, the investigation on the engines begins.
Dual engine failure in icing conditions is almost certainly carb icing.
@@jonesygw or induction ice. Was it carbureted or injected?
@@marlinweekley51 should be injected. So induction icing for sure. Wonder if he pulled the alternate air levers?
Can people not just give Victor and Blancolirio a break for XMAS! 🎄
Better decision than the pilot who crashed near Brooklyn from likely icing a few days ago. RIP to him and congrats to this pilot.
Then again, his decision to fly into those conditions and put himself, his passengers, motorists, and his plane at risk deserves to be questioned.
@ Very true. I asked myself that same question…..
More than most activities, general avation has a great many people who have more money than common sense.
Memo to self: Only fly light planes on clear days.
“Gray Rider” call signs = military?
It could be New York State Police. They are known as State Troopers.
NYS SP and other state aircraft (when they have them) are GREY1 through N. The State Police Aviation Unit flys them. They have a few Bell helicopters and at least one King Air that the Governor gets to use on official duties.
@4:53 "61Q roger, and, ah, [grbld] is the closest airport to ya."
He was lucky didnt ice on roads make him think is it too bad to fly if as a previous writer said it had been icy all morning dont fly or uf you get up say to ATC skies quiet today snd land promptly
And i thought the 95 was a King Air.
Terrible decision to go flying in those conditions. That was some pretty crappy weather rolling through the area and it was not a surprise to anyone. No deicing or anti-icing equipment on that aircraft, he never should have gone out on that day. Glad everyone came out of this unscathed.
@@sncy5303 Just tree's, no flat land in that area because of the Normans Kill.... Would have ripped the wings off stuffing into trees or crashed it into development outside of the city or the city itself or into a side of a hill. In fact he landed it on a bridge on I-87 as there is a video of him rilling to a stop as he comes of the bridge. Maybe if he had enough energy he could have landed on the golf course half mile to the west, but I doubt that. This is where he put it down maps.app.goo.gl/coPoftJX3bVXK4jr8
@@sncy5303 I mean, it's Albany. Like, right over the city. He wasn't exactly in the countryside when the engines failed, he was 4-ish miles from the airport. His base leg took him right over downtown. There's literally nowhere to put it down except on a road. You've got Latham to the east, Roessleville to the south, and the Mohawk River to the north. To the west there's a bunch of developments and forest, no fields, at least not when he lost his engines.
@sncy5303
And which field would that be exactly ?
@@sncy5303Spoken like a true know-it-all that has never piloted anything but his couch.
I wonder if someone is wishing that he had the extra expense of the second engine back.
Somebody behind was recording right after the landing ruclips.net/user/shortsia2-BFXWhBY
Thankful everyone was safe but why the constant souls and fuel questions in an emergency. Now, not in this case, but usually the controllers don't pass it on to the next controller is also frustrating as hell. Understandably when it's an airline and they've lost an engine but a small craft and they've lost both engines? Quit asking. They have more pressing concerns.
Maybe drivers are becoming conditioned to keep an eye out for forced landings of aircraft as part of their defensive driving routine.
Probably carb icing.
ITS A CHRISTMAS MIRACLE! Good job Captain.
It was a miracle he went up in that weather.
Christmas miracle
Should use something like highway for the title…not everyone know what thruway means
Is it so painful to learn new things?
Induction icing or fuel starvation.
My bet's on icing.
This is not a case of a hero pilot. He violated regulations by flying into known icing conditions. No respect for weather and paid for it. Entertaining hearing all the non-Aviators chime in though.
Both engines failed? So he ran out of fuel is all that means and he was trying to blame it on "icing". Stupid mistake, obvious is obvious. You don't need to work for the NTSB to figure this one out.
There is about a 1,000% chance I would not fly a Beechcraft 95 in icing conditions.... In fact I wouldn't fly a Beechcraft 95 if icing were forecast and I could remain below the freezing level. In fact I'm not sure I would fly a Beechcraft 95 if IMC were forecast. Y'all gotta start setting some personal minimums, lest you end up on VAS, Blancolirio, or Hoovers channel...
Safely landed the plane, and then they break it hauling it off the road like that :(((
Good piloting.
Poor planning
@@VASAviation May be, but good job on landing with no injuries nor property damage.
AND the pilot was 19....hopefully he'll learn from this
Thanks god
Juan said it just yesterday, if both engines fail at the same time, it's most likely fuel starvation. Nice landing, though!
I still think it's ice related. Probably clogged with ice.
Piston engines, so it could well be carb icing. The flight plan was for another destination, and they decided to divert and cut the trip short, so fuel starvation seems unlikely? Unless it was a matter of selecting the wrong tank.
He had plenty of fuel onboard.
Exceptions to Juan’s rule. Low power descent allows ice to build up. Won’t notice until you try to add power. This is why it’s a good idea to ‘clear’ the engines every 1000 feet or so. You’re not clearing them, you’re testing for ice buildup so there is enough time to respond.
@@weekendflyer3673 Was going to say exactly the same thing. I learnt on a PA28 20 years ago and during my PPL checkride we have some noticeable carb icing on descent. If I wasn't on checkride I may have forgotten to occasionally power up/carb heat to clear any ice. Wouldnt have been nice if it'd been during a flare...
He got himself into that situation by flying into icing, but was smart enough to get out of it and fly it to the ground!
Feliz Navidad Iberians ❤
His pride stopped him from calling PAN PAN PAN and his poor training was the reason there was no MAYDAY when he had ample time to call it.
Dual engine failure hm. Fuel starvation, fuel contamination maybe?
Reckon the first and he lied about his reason to divert.
induction icing on an aircraft not approved in icing conditions flying through moderate icing conditions
Clear case of ice building up against the air filter, called induction icing. People think because they have fuel injected engine and that they won’t develop carburetor ice, but that doesn’t mean they won’t clog up with ice and stop running. He did not select alternate air, which is the fuel injected equivalent of carburetor heat
Carburetor icing? Shouldn't kill both engines exactly at the same time though.. Nice landing anyway 😀
On second thought; if both engines had accumulated ice in the throttles, both could theoretically die immediately when power is adjusted during descent..
I used to fly a C172 with fuel injected Continental engine and yes it was susceptible to icing in the throttle althought it had no actual carburetor. I didn't encounter it myself but some other pilots claimed they did..
@ yeah that’s a good point. I mean it’s possible but unlikely. If they both failed exactly the same moment that that’s fuel exhaustion or mismanagement
"Where going down in the Hudson" ! 😢
New York and icing seems to be a thing recently.
It's winter up here in the Northern latitudes. This is nothing new.
Hopefully Juan doesn't swear