Building the Type 45 Destroyers (Documentary)

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    Building Britain's Ultimate Warship.

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  • @blech71
    @blech71 2 года назад +7

    So much “Scotty” in the narrative when shipyard guy talks, it’s awesome.

  • @vxrdrummer
    @vxrdrummer 2 года назад +16

    As part of trials we did that figure of 8 quite a lot, but after that we did 16 minutes of 35 degree of wheel to port and the the same again to starboard. Going round in a tight circle leaning over miles with the MFR nearly in the water wasn't pleasant! I had to go up the mast during that evolution and it felt like you were about a mile away from the ship itself as we were leant over so far!

    • @GSteel-rh9iu
      @GSteel-rh9iu Год назад

      I think I would have barfed and then fallen overboard! Good work!

  • @vxrdrummer
    @vxrdrummer 2 года назад +16

    This really makes me miss being on these things. They were hard work, but and not good in lots of ways, but being at sea on them was wonderful at times.

  • @1chish
    @1chish 2 года назад +6

    That Lt. Commander Angus Essenhigh @ 01:11:25 is now the Captain of HMS Queen Elizabeth currently on deployment with CSG21 in the Indo Pacific.

  • @GJones462-2W1
    @GJones462-2W1 2 года назад +17

    One helluva warship! This yank is very impressed. It shows Britain's mastery of the sea has never waned! Well done, Brits! Quite impressive!

    • @georgebarnes8163
      @georgebarnes8163 2 года назад

      Hardly, out of the six that were built only one is seaworthy at this time.

    • @GJones462-2W1
      @GJones462-2W1 2 года назад

      @@georgebarnes8163 What? So there's 5 laying around, incomplete somewhere?

    • @drossgamessports9480
      @drossgamessports9480 2 года назад

      Lol y'all aren't even in the Top 5 for having the "best Navy." There's a lot of false claims in this documentary. You guys didn't modernize Ship building, nor did you revolutionize anything. America will always be #1. Google it.

    • @danielmorris6523
      @danielmorris6523 Год назад +5

      @@GJones462-2W1 George is not telling the truth. If you check Wikipedia here you'll see that they are all complete and seaworthy: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_45_destroyer
      I suspect the comment is based on the fact that the engines needed to be updated because of cooling issues with their intercoolers which is explained on Wikipedia but this was completed during standard maintenance procedures between 2019 and 2021. I live near Portsmouth and regularly see them go out amongst other Royal Navy ships and they are impressive to see.

    • @50Hawkmoon
      @50Hawkmoon Год назад

      It didn't function and ended up as a very expensive training ship!

  • @andyharris17able
    @andyharris17able 18 дней назад

    They should show this to all school kids in the last year of school. I personally think it's great recruiting potential , in a different way ...

  • @vxrdrummer
    @vxrdrummer 2 года назад +12

    I brought Ship 2 out of build, also served on Ship 4 and helped develop the GT training for these ships. I also worked with Ross McClure on Type 26. It's a shame BAE built T45, as aside from the weapons and radar, they were not good. I also served on a Type 42 (HMS Gloucester) and they were amazing, just outdated.

    • @TheChickenLine
      @TheChickenLine 2 года назад +5

      No vessel is without its Achilles Heel, especially in combat. Nearly every ‘unsinkable’ warship has hit the bottom.
      Using American equipment, strapped to RR WR-21, is/was such an Achilles Heel…
      It’s not uncommon for Russian Tugs to accompany their warships…

  • @brucewoods9377
    @brucewoods9377 2 года назад +15

    The Australian Navy could use three or four of these. Love the systems, as an ex combat systems chief (RAN) they are superb

    • @Aussie1961
      @Aussie1961 2 года назад +3

      we need a carrier, destroyers, subs, etc etc, all nuclear, and all american made.....

    • @udontknowme7798
      @udontknowme7798 2 года назад +1

      No, they are not superb

  • @aethellstan
    @aethellstan 2 года назад +7

    Thanks for making this available, it's very interesting.

  • @johnwright9372
    @johnwright9372 2 года назад +39

    Since 2010 the British armed forces have had their budgets squeezed until the pips squeaked. RN admirals said they have mortgaged everything. I do not pretend to be an armchair general or admiral, but any fool knows armed forces are not worth having unless they are fully equipped with the best weapons, training and support systems to win, and that cannot be done on the cheap. In 1979 the defence budget was over 6% of GDP, as against 2% now. Source: former minister David Howell. To have a viable defence the budgets have to be allocated. This cannot be done while government is dominated by ideological libertarians who keep cutting corporate taxes and allowing City of London interests to take advantage offshore tax havens. It is unacceptable to put political donors before our servicemen and women.

    • @craigduncan4826
      @craigduncan4826 2 года назад +6

      Britain should spend 5-10% on her defence. It would create a huge amount of jobs and also protect our citizens, which is the main purpose of government.
      Get rid of our wasteful aid budgets, instead help get jobs for our kids, working on our ships or building our ships in our shipyards.

    • @Spartan-jg4bf
      @Spartan-jg4bf 2 года назад +7

      @@craigduncan4826 Not even the US spends 10% , infact not major power spends 10% of GDP on defence, you aren't very clever 🙄

    • @1421davidm
      @1421davidm 2 года назад +4

      @@Spartan-jg4bf What I think Craig meant to say was be more like Germany and spend more money on defence industry rather then defence and build ships and submarines for export. Its pretty much an open secret that the German Navy has warships and submarines but hardly any ammunition also skimping on training and maintenance.

    • @raywhitehead730
      @raywhitehead730 2 года назад +3

      Mostly correct, however actual Defense spending is actually under2% last year, 2020. To get to 2% the government, added military and some civilian pensions (retirement pay and benefits) to the accounting for defense expenditures. And of course, such expenditures do nothing for actual war fighting. You were, deceived on purpose. Many in the government called he 2% goal, "an arbitrary" and meaningless " goal. numbers for 2021 are not yet generated... Retirement pensions, for UK military personnel, exceeded 1.2 billion pounds in 2020. Look it up. That amount of money would cover the entire existing purchase price of all the F35s on the HMS Queen Elizabeth, now at sea.

    • @NJTDover
      @NJTDover 2 года назад +1

      @@craigduncan4826 I couldn't agree more with you. Unfortunately it's only a wishful thinking to increase the defense budget.

  • @GSteel-rh9iu
    @GSteel-rh9iu Год назад +1

    Thanks for posting this documentary beautiful stuff! Need more VLS bring back Tico 2033

  • @bend3rbot
    @bend3rbot 2 года назад

    I just love the naff lazy narration! Phrases like; "construction jigsaw", and "precision household furniture". Real engineering savvy people!

  • @mikemccoy635
    @mikemccoy635 Год назад

    Cool video. Awesome ship

  • @rosswalker3457
    @rosswalker3457 2 года назад

    Fantastic doco

  • @tomstepp6945
    @tomstepp6945 2 года назад +13

    The British and Europeans design handsome warships.

    • @drossgamessports9480
      @drossgamessports9480 2 года назад +1

      @@Kxy2x nah, the US truly has the best. This documentary literally says they are behind in digital technology and had to adjust and test their ships after 2004. What's even funnier is them claiming they revolutionized ship assembly. They just picked up on assembling their ships in sections in the 2000s.... That's way way way way way way way behind America.

  • @mdb831
    @mdb831 Год назад +1

    She is a beast!

  • @kevinmccarthy8746
    @kevinmccarthy8746 2 года назад +3

    THANK YOU, we love you. Your prodigal sons America.

    • @gowdsake7103
      @gowdsake7103 2 года назад

      We try to stay away from American ships they tend to fire without checking

    • @petertwiss4215
      @petertwiss4215 2 года назад

      @@gowdsake7103 Russian troll?

    • @gowdsake7103
      @gowdsake7103 2 года назад

      @@petertwiss4215 Ummm no try again ?
      I will give you a hint the US killed more than were killed by the enemy !

    • @cyanoticspore6785
      @cyanoticspore6785 2 года назад

      @@gowdsake7103 I highly doubt that. Yes friendly fire happened but I doubt it was anywhere near that amount.

  • @oliversparks1459
    @oliversparks1459 2 года назад +3

    That Was Freaking Brilliant God i miss Being at Sea

  • @OhFookinELL
    @OhFookinELL 2 года назад

    Brilliant. Thanks for uploading.

  • @nicholasmaude6906
    @nicholasmaude6906 2 года назад +2

    IMO it is shortsighted of the UK treasury to halt construction at six ships when they should've built the originally planned 12 ships.

  • @ArthasXMeng
    @ArthasXMeng Год назад +1

    The Warfare Officer at 1:12:10, is now appeared as Captain of the HMS Queen Elizabeth in the new documentary BBC Warship: Tour of Duty.

  • @50Hawkmoon
    @50Hawkmoon Год назад +2

    The French had 45 design first. Daring was a disaster and treated as an experiment with it's unusable RADAR technology linked to its experimental missile system. The computer system on board was woeful and kept on crashing, needing a reboot even after being commissioned. This documentary highlights the discrepancies int he construction of modern warships. It was expensive, and the skills base had to be highly skilled in order to match up the unit builds from different parts of the country. It didn't work! For example, holes in bulkheads did not match up. Eventually Daring was launched after a nightmare during construction, yet what followed was a fiasco. This documentary is very generous in its kind of truth. How do I know? I worked for MoD with RN when this fiasco was constructed.

    • @kyzatheref
      @kyzatheref 3 месяца назад

      First of class, issues such of these are expected.

  • @kennethmantay4484
    @kennethmantay4484 2 года назад +2

    engaging 36 incoming is a substantial defensive juggernaut

  • @Dave-id6sj
    @Dave-id6sj 2 года назад +9

    So they showed D32 Daring, as well as D35 Dragon, bit hard to miss, but the blank spaces in the footage showed the invisibility cloaking worked really well 🤣

  • @adventuresofdeankane3569
    @adventuresofdeankane3569 4 месяца назад

    Despite all the bad press it's performing better than any other destroyer in 2024

  • @craigduncan4826
    @craigduncan4826 2 года назад +1

    Using wonderware InTouch SCADA as well.
    To be honest that’s what I would use as well.

  • @naiboz
    @naiboz 2 года назад +5

    Shame there’s only 6, should have been double that.
    Needs to have been really with the issues they’ve had 😁
    Here’s to the Type 26, 31, 32 and 83 🍻
    You need to be building these things all the time so you minimise the risk of the type of issues the Darings have had.
    Same goes for the Astutes and Dreadnaughts.
    Could use at least one more carrier too…. but manned by who? 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @streaky81
      @streaky81 2 года назад +2

      I'll never understand these comments. What wars are you wanting to fight? Any scenario where you need more capability than the most powerful Navy the UK has ever put together all that conventional weaponry is *worthless*. What we should be doing is increasing the size and capability of our nuclear deterrent and maintaining the level we're at with conventional forces going forwards.

  • @richarddyasonihc
    @richarddyasonihc 2 года назад +3

    These will be a great addition to our Naval Strength, enhanced also by the two new Aircraft carriers. It is a shame though, that our once great merchant fleet, flying the Red Ensign has all but disappeared. I believe that the largest fleet flying th ‘Red Duster’ is at the present Caledonian Macbrayne ferries,with 82 ships - large and small. They are always a pleasure to travel on, with or without a car.

    • @romeo9017
      @romeo9017 2 года назад

      One already hiding in Portsmouth and the other poorly in Guam…

    • @TT-hd3zi
      @TT-hd3zi 2 года назад

      @@romeo9017 how are they hiding?

    • @streaky81
      @streaky81 2 года назад

      @@TT-hd3zi refit is code for hiding, apparently.

    • @drossgamessports9480
      @drossgamessports9480 2 года назад

      Lol y'all aren't even in the Top 5 for having the "best Navy." There's a lot of false claims in this documentary. You guys didn't modernize Ship building, nor did you revolutionize anything. America will always be #1. Google it.

  • @wolvolad25
    @wolvolad25 2 года назад +4

    Wish we had a much bigger navy

  • @fa0676
    @fa0676 2 года назад

    Where was this film obtained please? I need a decent HD copy for training. VMT

    • @alexanderfoster3628
      @alexanderfoster3628  2 года назад

      There is no HD version unfortunately

    • @fa0676
      @fa0676 2 года назад

      @@alexanderfoster3628 Ta. Is a copy available anywhere?

    • @alexanderfoster3628
      @alexanderfoster3628  2 года назад +1

      @@fa0676 era.org.uk/tv-radio-resource/channel-4-building-britains-ultimate-warship/

  • @DrawnInk1
    @DrawnInk1 2 года назад +2

    Should build about 24 of these, upgrading with lessons learned all the time.

    • @kyleshaw6555
      @kyleshaw6555 2 года назад +1

      Yeah but our government is being run by utter pricks and they think only six is good enough we should have at least 10 anti air 12 anti ship and 10 anti sub destroyers hopefully the next person to run this country can put the best foot forward in building up the baby's capability and size becAuse this is embarrassing

  • @mcgurkg1
    @mcgurkg1 2 года назад +3

    It will be interesting to see how different the British type 45 will be from the Canadian type 45 when we finally get them built.

    • @alexanderfoster3628
      @alexanderfoster3628  2 года назад +6

      I think you mean Type 26? Both Australia and Canada will be using Type 26 in the AAW role and will use different radars. The Australians are having difficulty making their radar mast work with the dimensions and stability parameters of T26. Some of the differences are listed in Wikipedia.

    • @johnwillatt7162
      @johnwillatt7162 2 года назад +1

      The Canadian version will cost 10 times as much, got to grease some palms !

    • @akbarrizkywicaksana489
      @akbarrizkywicaksana489 2 года назад +2

      @@johnwillatt7162 because candian version use
      aegis

    • @masaharumorimoto4761
      @masaharumorimoto4761 2 года назад +1

      @@johnwillatt7162 82 billion so far HAHAAHA!

  • @gordonwade2914
    @gordonwade2914 Год назад

    More ships need to be built in Britain

  • @DaystromDataConcepts
    @DaystromDataConcepts 2 года назад +2

    This video & others I've seen on Royal navy ships, including the QE carrier, have all mentioned how the UK government over the decades has cut back on this or that, reducing capabilities due to cost etc. Now, in light of current world events, this doctrine has come back to haunt them. Can you imagine how we could've boosted our navy and air force with that £37 BILLION our government found for the COVID track and trace app? It always appears that politicians fail to see what many others do and then react too late.

    • @drossgamessports9480
      @drossgamessports9480 2 года назад

      Lol y'all aren't even in the Top 5 for having the "best Navy." There's a lot of false claims in this documentary. You guys didn't modernize Ship building, nor did you revolutionize anything. America will always be #1. Google it.

  • @streaky81
    @streaky81 2 года назад +5

    Somebody points an RPG at the ship and you're firing warning shots? Really?

  • @ykdickybill
    @ykdickybill 2 года назад +11

    I just hope that the RN / BAE Systems designers are a couple of steps ahead this time around. Can she take out the latest hypersonic missiles coming in at many times the speed of sound ? Can she deal with hundreds of small drones coming in all at once ? How resilient is she to the latest Russian electronic countermeasures such as the latest version of Khibini ?

    • @gowdsake7103
      @gowdsake7103 2 года назад +2

      More importantly can they actually keep it powered long enough

    • @bobdillon1138
      @bobdillon1138 2 года назад +4

      @@gowdsake7103 Some people are very gullible.

    • @drossgamessports9480
      @drossgamessports9480 2 года назад

      Lol y'all aren't even in the Top 5 for having the "best Navy." There's a lot of false claims in this documentary. You guys didn't modernize Ship building, nor did you revolutionize anything. America will always be #1. Google it.

    • @ykdickybill
      @ykdickybill 2 года назад

      @@drossgamessports9480 You stupid uneducated yank. Your dollar is facing imminent collapse and the U.S. will almost certainly descend into civil war. Better stock up on plenty of ammo and banjo strings 🤣🤣🤣

    • @timkenda8203
      @timkenda8203 Год назад

      I wouldn't worry about the hypersonic missiles quite yet. Yes, Russia says they have a working one, but Russia also says a lot of things that turn out not to be true. Also, the cost for one hypersonic missile it's not to be between 10 to 30 million dollars, well rush I can barely afford to pay its soldiers. I still think that we are a decade away from having to worry about hypersonic missiles doing anything aside from potentially hitting extremely large targets like cities or military bases. And a decade from now, a lot of military technology will be obsolete as seen by the rate at which in his progressing literally month over month.

  • @martyndyson9501
    @martyndyson9501 2 года назад +5

    Since this film was made the world has changed again back to planning A cemetrical warfare, Russia is back and China is moving forward faster in terms of warfare than the Americans did during WW2, their growth is frightening and they already have more warships than the US, we already have the 6 type 45's now but im sure the MOD would have rather built the extra 6 it had planned (i think it was 6 more, i know we cut the amount we planned). The type 45 is a great looking ship and it will have one of if not the best trained crews in the world along with the rest of the Navy, however i do feel our ships are not armed enough, Russia and Xhina have adopted the philosophy of relatively cheap missile attacks from multiple platforms on mass, saturation attacks, so Destroyers need plenty of missile silos, Arleigh Burke has 96, type 55 has over 100, we have 48, it would be a real shame to be knocked out of a battle and sunk because you have ran out of weapons half way through! For me this is one of the British biggest mistakes over the decades, we always under arm our fighting machines, it would be really nice to see something over powered with weapons for a change!

    • @drossgamessports9480
      @drossgamessports9480 2 года назад

      Lol y'all aren't even in the Top 5 for having the "best Navy." There's a lot of false claims in this documentary. You guys didn't modernize Ship building, nor did you revolutionize anything. America will always be #1. Google it.

    • @martyndyson9501
      @martyndyson9501 2 года назад

      @@drossgamessports9480 the industrial revolution? The worlds history didnt start after 1776 you know! Your even speaking our language! Get an education!

    • @GSteel-rh9iu
      @GSteel-rh9iu Год назад

      I'm afraid you are right. CNO Admiral Gilday USN: need to get away from wrapping “$2 billion ships around 96 missile tubes” to “fight a potential adversary that is producing capability and platforms at a very high rate of speed.”

    • @fredcheok9199
      @fredcheok9199 10 месяцев назад

      Should be "symmetrical". No such word as "cemetrical".

  • @scottcampbell5536
    @scottcampbell5536 8 месяцев назад +1

    Huge hallways and tiny berths.

    • @almac2598
      @almac2598 4 месяца назад

      You don't need to move personnel, equipment and damage control gear at the double rush through a 6 berth cabin.

  • @scruffguitar2
    @scruffguitar2 2 года назад +2

    57:06 "RAS, Refueling At Sea". At sea refueling was not developed by the royal navy...simply because it was never needed by them. Thanks to their colonial holdings and centuries of maritime mastery, they had always had a string of friendly bases and massive logistical infrastructure in place so that they never needed to develop a technique like that. It was developed and perfected by the US navy. The USA did not have bases or infrastructure in place in the pacific, except for a couple bases that were taken by Japan at the very outset of the war, therefore a technique of refueling was needed. The royal navy learned from the USN while serving in the pacific alongside them.
    Prior to the transition to oil fired boilers from coal, there was no feasible method of quick refueling, coaling was a slow, strenuous and dirty task that required the whole working crew to complete over the course of days.

    • @almac2598
      @almac2598 2 года назад

      Suggest you read the Wikipedia 'Underway Replenishment'. It should point out some facts to you.

    • @drossgamessports9480
      @drossgamessports9480 2 года назад

      Lol y'all aren't even in the Top 5 for having the "best Navy." There's a lot of false claims in this documentary. You guys didn't modernize Ship building, nor did you revolutionize anything. America will always be #1. Google it.

  • @DaveJMcGarry
    @DaveJMcGarry 11 месяцев назад

    Am i wrong or once the vertical weapons are depleted she has to hit port to ammunition ship as it cannot be done at sea which would make her pretty much a target?

    • @alexanderfoster3628
      @alexanderfoster3628  11 месяцев назад +2

      That is correct, but that does also apply to other ships. The majority of weapons in modern warships have their missiles are in VLS. Type 45 does have torpedos that can be launched from a Merlin or anti-ship weapons from a Lynx helicopter and there is also the 4.5 inch gun. T45 is getting an upgrade with 24 extra VLS silos for sea ceptor, meaning there will be 72 VLS on board. They are having a pretty bad day if all 72 missiles are consumed.

    • @DaveJMcGarry
      @DaveJMcGarry 11 месяцев назад

      @@alexanderfoster3628 None of that fancy stuff on the Type 21 i served on back in the day 😂

  • @thegrinch8161
    @thegrinch8161 2 года назад

    I still can’t remember the name of the vessel that sailed doon the waater I think it was 2006 or2007 because I was a coach driver with a party of ice hockey players at the ice arena at the braehead arena

  • @jpthiran
    @jpthiran 2 года назад

    ...hope that the engine problems are solved by now!...

  • @gerry343
    @gerry343 2 года назад +1

    1:02:32 Get him some trousers that fit!

  • @j.t.harrison3203
    @j.t.harrison3203 2 года назад

    Those poor sailors on the small boat during the small craft attack exercise... when they came aboard afterwards I can just see them being told "You're dead mate. No lunch for you, bloody terrorist."

  • @col.g.7698
    @col.g.7698 7 месяцев назад +1

    It’s great to see the royal navy with two super carriers. It’s very sad. They were not made CATOBAR super carriers. An immense mistake! The radar on the Darings is excellent! However, if the Royal Navy is only going to build six escorts for two super carriers, these ships are grossly under sized, and carry far too few missiles!! Either build six more or you will always be requesting a U.S send Arleigh Burke destroyer to give you another 96 missiles, which in the flight three can also intercept ICBMs. I’m glad to see the royal navy come back as far as they have! As an American, who is an extreme anglophile, I am so disappointed in the decisions which made your carriers STOVAL instead of CATOBAR and although an excellent escort, these ships should be carrying 96 missiles like do US in Arleigh Burke flight three. It makes me sad. Britain has come so far yet decided to stop 10 m short of finishing 100 m race in restoring the royal navy! In my opinion which ships this size you need twelve not six. to adequately screen your two super carriers!

    • @alexanderfoster3628
      @alexanderfoster3628  7 месяцев назад

      The Type 45s have been going through a project to see the number of AAW missiles increased to 72, The Type 83 replacement is expected to have a lot more missiles and feature Mk 41 sylos. I fully expect to see a CATOBAR solution in the future for new aircraft/drone types. The ships have a 50 year life span and can be configured for CATOBAR. However at the time the decision was made our version of EMALs was too risky to go with and the ships cannot generate steam for a traditional catapult. STOVL isn't so bad, these carriers can generate a sortie rate just below that of a Nimitz and we can interop with USMC, Italians and Japanese.

  • @jimmunro4649
    @jimmunro4649 2 года назад +5

    5 1/2 years Quicker now .Say that to ship builder of WW2

    • @juliusraben3526
      @juliusraben3526 2 года назад

      You are propably refering to liberty ships which were built by 18warfs.
      How many warfs were involved in ths construction of this ship?
      And everybody knows that commerce ships are much simpler then warships (sarcasm).

    • @drossgamessports9480
      @drossgamessports9480 2 года назад

      @@juliusraben3526 Lol y'all aren't even in the Top 5 for having the "best Navy." There's a lot of false claims in this documentary. You guys didn't modernize Ship building, nor did you revolutionize anything. America will always be #1. Google it.

    • @juliusraben3526
      @juliusraben3526 2 года назад

      @@drossgamessports9480 cool. But you are answering a question, nobody asked.
      Somebody from Swittzerland can never comment on something related to ships since it is a landlocked country?

  • @WizzRacing
    @WizzRacing 2 месяца назад

    What a shame.. As Japan produces more Ships then the UK..As they understand the value of the skills needed to build them. Should never be lost. Then the 10+ years it takes to train the Crews.

  • @tonydoherty2190
    @tonydoherty2190 2 года назад

    I saw a command and control a bit like this on vincennes ticonderoga class back in 1988 no im not an ex sailor or American

  • @peternicho
    @peternicho 2 года назад +6

    When they have replaced the overheating part of the engines they will be great.

    • @thegrinch8161
      @thegrinch8161 2 года назад +1

      Your only echoing what is a badly kept secret since this turd hit the water

    • @nathd1748
      @nathd1748 2 года назад +1

      @@thegrinch8161 And what ships do you have that are better??

    • @elel928
      @elel928 2 года назад

      @@thegrinch8161 At the moment the ships are unreliable rubbish because the marine turbine engines overheat in humid climates. The existing diesels will be swapped out for more powerful units to replace the power provided by the turbines. The turbines will only be used as a power boost for high speed runs. www.navylookout.com/final-cure-for-type-45-destroyer-propulsion-problems-announced/

    • @RouteDeTours
      @RouteDeTours 2 года назад

      @@thegrinch8161 You're* Come on John, it's really not that hard. Please try to get it right in future.

    • @thegrinch8161
      @thegrinch8161 2 года назад

      @@RouteDeTours I was a coach driver at the time and due to a head injury I can't remember the exact date and time so I'm truly sorry for not remembering the date or vessel

  • @GSteel-rh9iu
    @GSteel-rh9iu Год назад

    No UNREP tune blasting out?!?

  • @Knight1968
    @Knight1968 2 года назад +1

    The Royal Navy are the best in the world

  • @freebeerfordworkers
    @freebeerfordworkers 2 года назад

    Must be completed in 5 1/2 years? I know the ships were a lot less sophisticated but in WW2 the Americans could put a carrier in the water in just over two years and a destroyer escort in about 10 months.

    • @joshuapeckham2453
      @joshuapeckham2453 2 года назад +3

      Modern US shipbuilding is more equivalent. Yes, the ships are more complex and also there's not the same imperative so you take your time and don't rush it.
      CARRIERS
      USS Gerald R Ford (first of class) - first steel cut 2005, delivered 2017.
      USS George HW Bush (last of class) - 2003-2009
      DESTROYERS
      USS Arleigh Burke was launched 10 months after being laid down but spent another year and a half being fitted out. It was a different type of construction, so can't be compared. More fitting out is done ashore these days as the ship is being constructed. Most ships of the class are about 2.5 years from laying down to commission.

  • @michaelcolgan3182
    @michaelcolgan3182 2 года назад

    I have to wonder how all this electronic stuff stands up to an
    electromagnetic pulse

  • @gilzor9376
    @gilzor9376 2 года назад +1

    I don't get it. Just like Airbus. How is shipping modules long distances cost effective? I find it hard to believe they aren't burning up money needlessly. They obviously have a reason, I guess, but it sure don't make sense on the surface.

    • @peteturner8493
      @peteturner8493 2 года назад

      I suspect it greatly reduces the time/cost to build a ship in modules and by three seperate boat yards all effectively working in parallel. The long distance aspect is obviously is going to add cost but out weighed by the advantages...

  • @almac2598
    @almac2598 2 года назад +1

    I suppose its 'Mummy S' now instead of 'Daddy S'.

  • @thelastdruidofscotland
    @thelastdruidofscotland Год назад

    the world best aegis destroyer, you wont get a more attentive crew than in a royal navy CIC simply because of the falkand war, they take ship protection very seriously.

    • @alexanderfoster3628
      @alexanderfoster3628  Год назад +1

      T45 doesn't use AEGIS. T45 is fitted with Sea Viper which is made up of Astor missiles, Sylver launch silo and Sampson radar.

  • @alansohn855
    @alansohn855 2 года назад

    The only thing I don't like about the Type 45 destroyers are that there aren't any torpedos onboard to counter underwater threats.

    • @barracuda7018
      @barracuda7018 2 года назад +2

      Type 45 is not a multi role destroyer like the Arleigh Burke class. Her capabilities except air defence is limited..She was designed to provide air defence for Q2 class carriers.
      To describe her as the most advanced warship is hugely exaggerated..One of the most advanced destroyers definitely buy warship hell no...Gerald Ford class carriers are warships as well 😂😂.

    • @alansohn855
      @alansohn855 2 года назад

      @@barracuda7018 Wouldn't put the type 45 vulnerable if it were to go alone?

    • @TT-hd3zi
      @TT-hd3zi 2 года назад +1

      @@alansohn855 yes but they wouldn’t be tasked to sail anywhere near a submarine threat alone.

    • @federicoperi6806
      @federicoperi6806 2 года назад +1

      From my understanding they are capable of ASW (Anti Submarine Warfare). As your rightfully said, they don't carry onboard torpedo launchers but their Wildcat helicopter (or Merlin) can be equipped with Sting Ray lightweight torpedoes to counter any submarine threat :)

    • @alansohn855
      @alansohn855 2 года назад +1

      @@federicoperi6806 Very true.

  • @johnnunn8688
    @johnnunn8688 2 года назад

    Why aren’t they wearing anti-flash?

  • @JoeyPinter
    @JoeyPinter Год назад

    I think the RN should bring back flogging and grog.

  • @edwinsalau150
    @edwinsalau150 2 года назад

    Why can’t we the United States build them under license?Would security be compromised?

  • @michaelcolgan3182
    @michaelcolgan3182 2 года назад

    UK might want to build six more and sell six more to the Australian's.

  • @chandrachurniyogi8394
    @chandrachurniyogi8394 2 года назад

    RN needs to have a fleet of 33 brand new 8,300 ton stealth guided missile multi warfare destroyers powered by fuel cell & Li-ion marine propulsion system!!! this will be complimented by a fleet of 19 brand new 10,600 ton stealth guided missile multi warfare destroyers propelled by the same fuel cell & Li-ion power pack!!! total acquisition cost of 52 stealth guided missile destroyers of different specifications €13.0 Bn to €26.5 Bn approx!!!

    • @alexanderfoster3628
      @alexanderfoster3628  2 года назад +5

      A single Type 26 frigate costs £1.25 billion and doesn't feature a destroyer radar like Sampson. No way would 53 destroyers cost 26.5 billion. The RN wouldn't even have enough crew for half that number.

    • @chandrachurniyogi8394
      @chandrachurniyogi8394 2 года назад

      @@alexanderfoster3628 ur right my friend!!! I apologize!!! the cost will exceed well over €60.0 Bn!!!

    • @NJTDover
      @NJTDover 2 года назад +3

      Stop smoking cheap grass, lad. Not enough money is coming for the RN in the foreseeable future. CSG21 is currently relying on the US Navy (1 Arleigh Burke destroyer + 10 F-35Bs) and the Dutch Navy's HNLMS Evertsen. Incidentally, the HMS Diamond, which was escorting Big Lizzie, is out of business due to a fawlty turbine engine failure. Yes, the same revolutionary turbine engine mentioned in this video has been constantly experimenting technical difficulties and is well-documented.

    • @joshuapeckham2453
      @joshuapeckham2453 2 года назад

      @@NJTDover I think he's winding you up...

    • @timjobs3634
      @timjobs3634 2 года назад

      Perhaps this would be the fleet of the British empire if it were still around. I would say 10 CVNs, 20 cruisers, 60 destroyers 30 plus nuclear attack subs and around 10 ballistic mission subs plus a large fleet of support vessels

  • @ridlespriger2120
    @ridlespriger2120 2 года назад

    Build it tried and true

  • @andywarrington4738
    @andywarrington4738 2 года назад +2

    how the hell can a globe have four corners lol

    • @TheCainabis
      @TheCainabis 2 года назад

      Because it’s flat so they say 🤣 I was literally thinking the same when he mentioned 4 corners 🤔

  • @stevec2940
    @stevec2940 Год назад

    What if you get hit with an EMP ? Are you sitting in the dark dead in the water?

    • @almac2598
      @almac2598 4 месяца назад

      Modern warefare equipment is emp proofed.

  • @twstf8905
    @twstf8905 2 года назад +4

    The title card; _"Building Britain's Ultimate Warship."_ doesn't appear until 6:23 (ish)
    _(everything up to that point is the usual, totally skippable, spoilery-ass, "coming up, on this episode of..." crap.)_
    _(You're welcome. ✌)_

    • @raytrevor1
      @raytrevor1 2 года назад +2

      It doesn't really start until 8 minutes in.

  • @Warentester
    @Warentester 2 года назад +4

    Could someone please explain to documentary script writers that a quantum leap is a very, very small distance/change.

    • @Warentester
      @Warentester 2 года назад

      @Rob Wilton It is a change (or jump) of an electron from one energy level to another WITHIN AN ATOM.
      The colloquial use has no grounding in the original meaning.

    • @kingdedede1066
      @kingdedede1066 5 месяцев назад

      Semantics

  • @danielmorris6523
    @danielmorris6523 Год назад +1

    The Type 45s are amazing ships but we should have made more of them. Originally we were going to have 12 but then successive governments have cut the budget for our armed forces and reduced the total number. I wish we had a government that really believed in and supported our brave men & women in the armed forces and funded more ships which is really what we need right now.

    • @williamdodds1394
      @williamdodds1394 7 месяцев назад

      They are crap nothing but trouble and only one can be deployed.

  • @siphotheguy1870
    @siphotheguy1870 2 года назад +1

    It's cute that the Brits still have their own little navy.

    • @australiafirst520
      @australiafirst520 2 года назад

      And build their own vessels. Australian Government buys overseas, Our Shipbuilding Industry has been virtually Destroyed by Government that won't back Australian Made.

    • @almac2598
      @almac2598 4 месяца назад

      Its to show the Yanks how to use their big toy boats.

  • @Boxing01Fan
    @Boxing01Fan 2 года назад

    I would rather spend my taxes on this than road works or people who can’t be bothered to work

  • @gowdsake7103
    @gowdsake7103 2 года назад

    just ponders if the Scottish get independence how many more they will build !

    • @alexanderfoster3628
      @alexanderfoster3628  2 года назад +2

      Based on the ferry fiasco none! The UK Government have said all warships will be built domestically.

  • @bobeden5027
    @bobeden5027 4 месяца назад

    how can a globe have 4 corners?

  • @raywhitehead730
    @raywhitehead730 2 года назад +5

    6 August 2921, it was reported, that only one Type 45 is currently sea worthy. This type destroyer has a very long history of being plagued many times with propulsion problems.

    • @leandro9311
      @leandro9311 2 года назад

      Not really, its ther generators who can´t cope with warmer watters, the ships themselfs are in need of a modernization as well

    • @raywhitehead730
      @raywhitehead730 2 года назад +1

      @@leandro9311 May 2016, Warship Technology. And cataloged in many other publications, before and since. The British failure to completely change out the propulsion units themselves, because they tried the cheapest way possible to keep the poorly engineered and constructed systems in place has lead to the entire class of Type 45 destroyers being unseaworthy. Many of that type, and there are only 6, spend an inordinate time in port. The Royal Navy, and the UK government have themselves reported on it. You should read up.on it. It originated with the original choice of propulsion systems at the beginning of the Type 45 construction.

    • @raywhitehead730
      @raywhitehead730 2 года назад

      @@leandro9311 Read Royal Instittion of Naval Architects, May 2017. Also.

    • @leandro9311
      @leandro9311 2 года назад

      @@raywhitehead730 In fact the Type 45 does have long standing propulsion problems but once again they are largely related to warmer waters then everthying else. I give you the fact the Royal Navy went a bit cheap in the main components but they have held up so far, they just need modernization after some 15 years of service which is expected

    • @raywhitehead730
      @raywhitehead730 2 года назад +1

      @@leandro9311 then why did the last Type 45 already in transit withe the QE on her maiden cruise have to turn back ?? Wasn't it scheduled to make the whole cruise? As of today only one Type ,45 is sea worthy. You should read a very well detailed report on the propulsion system in royal institution of naval architects may of 2017. And Warship Technology may 2016. In the parlance of US Navy Jargon, the Royal Navy is taking a bandaid approach.

  • @cosmic4037
    @cosmic4037 2 года назад

    Drones

  • @layzrepair
    @layzrepair 2 года назад

    Royal Navy is the best

  • @barracuda7018
    @barracuda7018 2 года назад +3

    Type 45 is mainly for air defence with limited capabilites in other areas. Arleigh Burke destroyers are multiple mission warships overall they are far more capable..

    • @ricky1231
      @ricky1231 2 года назад

      Yea only 48 Vertical Launching Systems, that needs to be doubled

    • @barracuda7018
      @barracuda7018 2 года назад

      @@ricky1231 imagine the enemy launches 49 anti ship missile?
      Type 45 is doomed. Besides a 48 to 48 score is highly unlikely. No matter how advanced the radar is, it's still a 30rpm rotating radar, a low flying supersonic sea skimmer can always find a gap between rotations.

    • @ricky1231
      @ricky1231 2 года назад +1

      @@barracuda7018
      I agree with you there
      You need EASA radar and more missiles
      The UK could built the Arleigh Burke in the UK under licence with Agis missile defence system & that would protect carriers as well as the UK isles again ballistic missiles. Two birds with one stone or build a ship with same capability as the Burke. Home grown is not always the best for National defence at any given time

    • @barracuda7018
      @barracuda7018 2 года назад

      @@ricky1231 Arleigh Burke Aegis radar system provides 360 degree situational awereness..

    • @joshuapeckham2453
      @joshuapeckham2453 2 года назад

      @@ricky1231 I'd rather have a T45 than a Flight II Burke for AAW

  • @raywhitehead730
    @raywhitehead730 2 года назад +4

    A detailed account of the this class, Type 45, propulsion failures and problems can be read at, The Royal Institution of Naval Architects, May 2017....those problems persist even now August, 2021. Many many times these ships suffer complete electrical power failure throughout the ship. Thus their inherent unseaworthiness.

    • @NJTDover
      @NJTDover 2 года назад

      You nailed it, champ. HMS Diamond had to be detached from CSG21 due to a serious defect (WR21 gas turbine engine failure).

    • @raywhitehead730
      @raywhitehead730 2 года назад

      @@NJTDover A LM2500 gas turbine engine on a Spurance class destroyer could be replaced in two days. but they were very dependable and seldom had to be replaced. That British ship should have been returned to service in time to rejoin the cruise...

    • @alexanderfoster3628
      @alexanderfoster3628  2 года назад

      The T45s are going through a programme to rectify this. An extra diesel generator is being installed into the ship. The issue isn't the WR21 turbine but the intercooler.

    • @geoffreyleonard99
      @geoffreyleonard99 2 года назад

      @@raywhitehead730 Ray on another British video!
      Obsessed....

    • @raywhitehead730
      @raywhitehead730 2 года назад

      @@geoffreyleonard99 Anything, untrue?

  • @notrash22
    @notrash22 2 года назад

    Hardly at all about building them

  • @ozibala
    @ozibala 2 года назад +1

    A big rotating radar is not a good idea to defend against swamp attacks

  • @alanbstard4
    @alanbstard4 Год назад

    " he will lead his men and women " Why don't you call them crew?

  • @marcbiff2192
    @marcbiff2192 2 года назад

    Fwd mast is to fwd it doesn't look right.

  • @user-er2jg8lh7i
    @user-er2jg8lh7i 2 года назад

    Where shipbuilders?Where fitters?Where pipeliners?Where electriсians? Who build this ship?

  • @Enonymouse_
    @Enonymouse_ 2 года назад

    very quiet ships

    • @alexanderfoster3628
      @alexanderfoster3628  2 года назад +1

      Actually they are not. One RN officer told me that a couple of the T45s sound like a bag of spanners underwater. T23s and T26s are very quiet but this noise reduction is very pricey.

    • @Enonymouse_
      @Enonymouse_ 2 года назад +1

      @@alexanderfoster3628 was just going off the sound from the film, good to know.

  • @paulmcgee1867
    @paulmcgee1867 2 года назад +1

    Just add engines next time

  • @overlord4404
    @overlord4404 2 года назад +3

    look at it lads, tis will b the most powerful ship in the UK navy with awesome anti air capabilities.
    *proceeds to send a single working one to provoke a county with the best anti ship missiles in existence and less than 20 km from a coast filled with those missiles

    • @raywhitehead730
      @raywhitehead730 2 года назад +1

      Correct! But they feared to provoke China, and as of yesterday are in Guam.

    • @alexanderfoster3628
      @alexanderfoster3628  2 года назад +6

      The Chinese ballistic anti ship missile has so far successfully hit a barge. A barge that they knew the position of. Secondly a freedom of navigation exercise is not a provocation. China is more than welcome to steam up and down the English channel if they wish.

    • @kingdedede1066
      @kingdedede1066 5 месяцев назад

      I think he is referring to Russia unfortunately

  • @joshuahornbaker6381
    @joshuahornbaker6381 2 года назад

    Isn't naming ships after ships that have subk un war like bad luck? 🤔 should be the hms Elizabeth

    • @alexanderfoster3628
      @alexanderfoster3628  2 года назад +4

      If a ship is named after a previous ship it inherits the previous ships' battle honours.

  • @sunrayisdown1690
    @sunrayisdown1690 Год назад

    All these ships had serious flaws. One was the generator engines which over heated in hot climates.
    The other was the harmonic voltage distortion (THDu) due to her 2 x 20MW of electric propulsion. The THDu is four times the limit set in Stanag. She also has common mode voltage in kV on the hull.
    The THDu was known about in 2001 but nothing was done.

  • @matthewdudley6278
    @matthewdudley6278 2 года назад

    So the most expensive ship in the RN is a destroyer. What does that say about their carriers?

    • @alexanderfoster3628
      @alexanderfoster3628  2 года назад +2

      This programme is about 13 years old - long before the carriers.

    • @classicalmusic1175
      @classicalmusic1175 2 года назад

      It says a lot about your intelligence, because a monkey could figure out this was made well BEFORE the QE carriers came along...

  • @thegrinch8161
    @thegrinch8161 2 года назад

    Surely you mean coward Woodward

    • @almac2598
      @almac2598 4 месяца назад

      Find and read the declassified and released reports on the Falklands War as to why the Hermes kept to the East of an internationally agreed position line in the South Atlantic. To do with certain weapons. Woodward vindicated. UK plays by the rules we signed up to.

  • @vxrdrummer
    @vxrdrummer 2 года назад

    32:12 Scaffold Class Destroyers. Just how they look alongside ha ha

  • @romeo9017
    @romeo9017 2 года назад

    Unlike the disastrous Aircraft carriers and the Ajax tank programme…

    • @alexanderfoster3628
      @alexanderfoster3628  2 года назад

      Yeah Ajax is bad but the carrier? Highly advanced design that the Americans think is impressive. The sortie rate of QE is in the same league as a Nimitz carrier.

  • @bobdillon1138
    @bobdillon1138 2 года назад

    They could have just stayed in port saved some fuel and run the computer simulation
    it was about as realistic as WWF.

    • @almac2598
      @almac2598 4 месяца назад

      Because they showed about 2% of what actually happens.

  • @paulleconte7658
    @paulleconte7658 2 года назад

    a baby burke?

  • @patthonsirilim5739
    @patthonsirilim5739 2 года назад +2

    wtf why would you build a ship of that size in 3 different areas it makes no financial sense at all.

    • @aethellstan
      @aethellstan 2 года назад +8

      I think the businesses involved know more than we do so don't worry about it.

    • @patthonsirilim5739
      @patthonsirilim5739 2 года назад +5

      @@aethellstan i think its politcal engineering wining vote by providing jobs to area that makes no sense if this was to be build by a privite contractor.

    • @aethellstan
      @aethellstan 2 года назад +1

      @@patthonsirilim5739 The entire project is built by private contractors there are no ship builders or electronics companies owned by UK government. They're built according to specialisms in the various areas. Yes there may well be politics involved in regards to keeping jobs in the industry around the country but by saying what you said is really disingenuous to the workers themselves.

    • @bainzy9627
      @bainzy9627 2 года назад +4

      Think it is to reduce the time spent building the ship as the blocks can be built in parallel instead of building them one at a time.

    • @joshuahornbaker6381
      @joshuahornbaker6381 2 года назад +2

      Because it's faster ti build a ship when you build it in segments as multiple locations can build multiple parts of the ship at tge same time and join them at 1 time cuts ship building in half its how all cruise ships are built now a days too

  • @keirbrown7734
    @keirbrown7734 2 года назад

    the video should of been it running from the russians

  • @ADobbin1
    @ADobbin1 2 года назад

    5 years is a quick build for you? I'd call 6 months to a year a fast build.

  • @douglasbuchanan2973
    @douglasbuchanan2973 2 года назад +2

    LOL UK and USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @gledhill4911
    @gledhill4911 2 года назад

    They didn't do a very good job as most of them are alongside with engine problems.

    • @TT-hd3zi
      @TT-hd3zi 2 года назад +1

      None of them are currently alongside with engine problems.

  • @fredcheok9199
    @fredcheok9199 10 месяцев назад

    The RN's Type 45 destroyers are faulty and operationally unreliable. To call it Britain's ultimate warship is not only a ludicrous exaggeration, it is an insult to knowledgeable viewers. Could be better edited.

  • @ronjeremy5826
    @ronjeremy5826 2 года назад

    32:45
    “It throws a huge protection zone, hundreds of kilometres wide..” 😂
    Yeah, right! 😂
    At 30 miles distance, using the curvature chart, the drop is 600 feet! 600! Thats 182 metres! So, unless the enemy ships are 140 metres high, your “sophisticated” radar cant see F all! And thats only at 30 miles distance! So what hundreds of kilometres is this fool dreaming about?
    Its only good for aerial targets.
    Unless, of course, the water is totally FLAT

    • @joshuapeckham2453
      @joshuapeckham2453 2 года назад +3

      That's the point... it's an AIR DEFENCE DESTROYER. It destroys incoming missiles, airplanes and UAVs like no other ship out there.

    • @streaky81
      @streaky81 2 года назад +2

      "Its only good for aerial targets." - that's literally what it's for. Still the most advanced and capable naval air-defence radar on the face of the planet and you're saying its useless? Nice try.

    • @petertwiss4215
      @petertwiss4215 2 года назад

      @@streaky81 He's a Putin bot working from a checklist or a 14 year old.

    • @ronjeremy5826
      @ronjeremy5826 2 года назад

      @@petertwiss4215 im actually your father. Ask your stinking mama

    • @petertwiss4215
      @petertwiss4215 2 года назад

      @@ronjeremy5826 14 then!