@@talinegle6182 I did and you absolutely have to use the timing chain wedge tool. If you do not the timing chain will fall off the bottom sprocket and you will 100% have to remove the entire front of your engine at that point. It's a cheap tool and can be easily purchased on Amazon.
For this not being a instructional video, you did a hell of a good job explaining, thanks for taking time out to share this build, I feel that I can too! do this now.
@@sofakingraw4149 Cams affect what rpm range your motor will make the most torque. As horsepower is a function of torque, by moving that peak torque up in rpm, you gain power. In doing this, however, you lose lower-rpm torque, which is most directly associatated with how the car drives on the street, aka "streetability" and depending on your cam selection lower MPG.
@@sofakingraw4149 OH LOL sorry. I personally don’t think there are any cons to a catch can except for the extra maintenance step of emptying it during every oil change. Pros are that it filters oil and sediment from getting into your intake which over time will decrease horsepower and fuel efficiency. I took my old intake off and set it on the garage floor while installing the new one. 2 days later I picked it up and there was a small pool of oil on the cement. Proof that the oil from “blow by” does indeed make its way into your intake.
Thanks for posting this video! I have a 2006 mustang gt and i want to do the same mods. I have a question for you. What is your mpg since installing the cam and intake? I use my mustang for daily commuting on the highway and that’s my only concern.
I'm building up my own s197 GT and s197 when looking into cams I've found that as long as the cams don't require phaser limited it won't kill your gas mileage. Maybe see a tiny drop or gain on fuel economy. Mutha thumprs were gonna be my go to but after finding out they're mainly for sound and require phaser limiters I decided to maybe consider Detroit rockers or maybe FRPP cams. I'm still researching and learning so I could be misproven if you've found ways to work around the downsides. Since FRPP cams harm low end performance people will go up to 4.10 gears but that hurts max speed and fuel economy. Cams are tricky so do let me know if you think you can tell me something that could help me
I know this comment is old now, but I installed the hot rod cams on my mustang and actually saw an increase in gas mileage, I also switched from a BAMA tune to a Lito tune, so that could’ve been a factor as well
@@plasticcommando4486 is exactly correct. I'd hate to give you an idea on gas mileage because I installed 4:10. Interstate speeds is around 16-17 because my RPM's are so high due to the gears.
Wow same thing happened to me but I was dumb and never checked under the air manafold and I was doing donuts and I caught it on fire and I’m trying to rebuild it now
Did you have to compres the spring and remove the followers on cylinder 5 and 7 ? Late model restoration posted a video and they did , I was just wondering if it was necessary
I saw a test with that intake . It's only good on top (very top) and looses a lot of torque all the way through . I think it's only good for an all out rpm car .
I saw a dyno of that manifold and it was not good. It did make 10 more HP than factory but that was right at the top end. Everywhere else it was down by a lot of power. I imagine with the cam it's probably even worse. They said it would be great for boosted setups but not NA.
@@MadCarTK Thanks for the comment. I don't run my car hard to be honest. I'm going for power but mostly going for look and sound. She a garage queen for sure.
@@msm402 Go watch the video I posted, I don't think you did by the way you wrote that comment. You can't tune the computer to create more turbulence in the air to mix the fuel & air better.
Other than knocking a follower off in the beginning and leaving a socket on the crank, any other install issues or problems after? Debating on doing mine myself this weekend!
Nope. I was very careful and meticulous. I followed the instruction carefully. It was a very fun and rewarding job and im happy I tackled it myself. Car has been running amazingly for months now.
Thanks for the video! Do you need to adjust the position of the crank at all between installing the driver and passenger side camshafts or do you just leave it in the same position for both? Thanks!
If anyone can answer this, I would appreciate it greatly. I have a 05 Mustang GT with 38k miles and I'm hoping to replace only the cams with new Ford Performance Hot Rod Cams. The car has been taken care of for those 17 years, but I'm not sure if it is a good idea to replace the springs/the entire valves since they are that old . Do you think the valves will be fine with those cams?
My car had about the same mileage when I did the job. I did not replace and springs or lifters and it is not required with these cams. A tune is required though.
@@ryesagainstthemachine2995 Gotcha. I just wasn’t sure how aggressive those cams are even though Ford says that they will be fine. I have a local tuner that I like so I’ll have that towed to his shop. I appreciate your help man!
@Rodger Langley what else do you have done to the car? I ask only because you won't get much gain without some decent headers. If your looking just for the aggressive sound you'll get it but without other mods like headers and some more room for the car to breath with intake or throttle body you won't get much HP gain.
@@ryesagainstthemachine2995 I was going to get some long tube headers soon. Currently I’m putting the cams, new intake manifold, throttle body, coil packs, and injectors. I already have a cold air intake on there but it’s just a start for right now
Good job I want to do the exact same thing to my 08 gt. Did you buy your parts directly from ford?. I bought a JLT series 3 cold air intake with the bama tuner.
BAMA tune is good with a CAI but if you go deeper like cams I would check the forums. You will see that most people go with LITO for there tune. BAMA canned tunes are not optimal at all!!! I purchased from American Muscle and CJ Pony Parts. Each had certain parts that were cheaper so I split the order.
@@kevinmccaffrey9195 You can check in your area. Search dyno tune or speed shop. I got mine done in Baton Rouge at a place called Stang-Hi performance. They have since moved somewhere in Ascension Parish. They are good at what they do but you will pay for that expertise.
I’m curious I have the cams sitting in my room but I don’t have a tuner cause I read the description on AM that it recommends a tune for it to squeeze out that extra hp, but does it really need to be flashed after the cam install due to it running with the stock phasers and lashers also cause it’s made by the same ford guys who designed the stock cams? I’m still gonna buy the tune either way but I just want to know if it’s recommended or mandatory
I believe it is merely recommended not 100% sure. I would 100% go with the tune. You spent the money on the cams so why not get every ounce out of them.
if I remember correctly it was close to $2,000. i bought from both American muscle and CJ Pony parts. As for recommendations on your year and mileage I wouldn't know but post up in a forum. Plenty of helpful folks there!!
Nice video! I have an 05 Gt as well and I want to cam it! Quick question do I need the tune before I even start the car with the cams installed? Hard to find detailed information on tuning and when it is required
I am trying to do the same thing to my 07 Mustang, but I don’t know how to download the tune for what you just did. Please help me find the loadable tune for these bolt ons’?
You will need to get a custom tune made. I used LITO. If you google LITO tune you will see a ton of infomration, mostly on forums, on how this is done.
@@ryesagainstthemachine2995 So I’ve ordered my Ford performance Hot Rod cams,what programmer and tune do I need ?? I watched your video probably 10 times !! lol
I was too bust actually doing the work I guess. That's why I said in the beginning it wasn't an instructional video. Just some tips and things I thought others may want to know along my journey.
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Did you use the timing chain wedge tool and do you need to?
@@talinegle6182 I did and you absolutely have to use the timing chain wedge tool. If you do not the timing chain will fall off the bottom sprocket and you will 100% have to remove the entire front of your engine at that point. It's a cheap tool and can be easily purchased on Amazon.
For this not being a instructional video, you did a hell of a good job explaining, thanks for taking time out to share this build, I feel that I can too! do this now.
Thank you and good luck. I educated myself through youtube for a year on how to do the installation.
I'd recommend getting a catch can, I had one on my 3v and caught about 12 ounces of oil in about 20k.
I will be purchasing one up very soon. When I picked up my old intake off the floor there was way more oil on the ground than I was comfortable with.
So what’s the pros and con of getting one?
@@sofakingraw4149 Cams affect what rpm range your motor will make the most torque. As horsepower is a function of torque, by moving that peak torque up in rpm, you gain power.
In doing this, however, you lose lower-rpm torque, which is most directly associatated with how the car drives on the street, aka "streetability" and depending on your cam selection lower MPG.
@@ryesagainstthemachine2995 thanks buddy but I was referring to the Oil Catch can.
@@sofakingraw4149 OH LOL sorry. I personally don’t think there are any cons to a catch can except for the extra maintenance step of emptying it during every oil change.
Pros are that it filters oil and sediment from getting into your intake which over time will decrease horsepower and fuel efficiency.
I took my old intake off and set it on the garage floor while installing the new one. 2 days later I picked it up and there was a small pool of oil on the cement. Proof that the oil from “blow by” does indeed make its way into your intake.
Good video, which shows a lot of detail you don't normally see in these vids.
Thanks. I was hoping to give a different look.
Awesome video! Getting ready to do the exact same install this weekend on my 06 GT Convertible w 38k miles.
Good luck!! It’s a fun install!!
I got a 05. How was the camshafts install. I keep going back and forth on doing it
Nice work. Sounds great. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks
😁 Sweet Music that made me smile when I cranked up I know you where happy
I just installed a Marlboro 72mm a little bit ago.
intstall completed by the VOODOO ranger. have a good one.
Great stuff and congratulations on the installation
Thanks 👍
Nice car and video 👍🏻 when you put on new blue valve covers, did you use the old gasket in addition to the new sealant?
If I remember correctly I didn't use a new gasket. Specs just called for a dab of sealant.
Thanks for posting this video! I have a 2006 mustang gt and i want to do the same mods. I have a question for you. What is your mpg since installing the cam and intake? I use my mustang for daily commuting on the highway and that’s my only concern.
I'm building up my own s197 GT and s197 when looking into cams I've found that as long as the cams don't require phaser limited it won't kill your gas mileage. Maybe see a tiny drop or gain on fuel economy. Mutha thumprs were gonna be my go to but after finding out they're mainly for sound and require phaser limiters I decided to maybe consider Detroit rockers or maybe FRPP cams. I'm still researching and learning so I could be misproven if you've found ways to work around the downsides. Since FRPP cams harm low end performance people will go up to 4.10 gears but that hurts max speed and fuel economy. Cams are tricky so do let me know if you think you can tell me something that could help me
I know this comment is old now, but I installed the hot rod cams on my mustang and actually saw an increase in gas mileage, I also switched from a BAMA tune to a Lito tune, so that could’ve been a factor as well
@@plasticcommando4486 is exactly correct. I'd hate to give you an idea on gas mileage because I installed 4:10. Interstate speeds is around 16-17 because my RPM's are so high due to the gears.
Great job !!! Sounds awesome 👏
Nice work guys, I have been there !!
Wow same thing happened to me but I was dumb and never checked under the air manafold and I was doing donuts and I caught it on fire and I’m trying to rebuild it now
Did you have to compres the spring and remove the followers on cylinder 5 and 7 ? Late model restoration posted a video and they did , I was just wondering if it was necessary
No. I did not remove any of the followers or springs for the install
Those bama tuners are alright but I would HIGHLY recommend getting it dyno tuned it would be well worth the cost and would be better for the emgine
I have a custom tune and not a Bama. Would never get a Bana tune for anything than a CAI and even then probably wouldn't
@@ryesagainstthemachine2995 Where did you get the custom tune from?
I saw a test with that intake . It's only good on top (very top) and looses a lot of torque all the way through . I think it's only good for an all out rpm car .
A steeper rear gear will help with that
Which cam lubricant are you using?
You in Vacherie or Thibodaux? :) Just pick 08 Bullitt for SCCA,
I saw a dyno of that manifold and it was not good. It did make 10 more HP than factory but that was right at the top end. Everywhere else it was down by a lot of power. I imagine with the cam it's probably even worse. They said it would be great for boosted setups but not NA.
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@@MadCarTK Thanks for the comment. I don't run my car hard to be honest. I'm going for power but mostly going for look and sound. She a garage queen for sure.
Nothing wrong with that manifold.I'm running it with the same TB he is,and it runs fine.It's all in who tunes it...
@@msm402 Go watch the video I posted, I don't think you did by the way you wrote that comment. You can't tune the computer to create more turbulence in the air to mix the fuel & air better.
Other than knocking a follower off in the beginning and leaving a socket on the crank, any other install issues or problems after? Debating on doing mine myself this weekend!
Nope. I was very careful and meticulous. I followed the instruction carefully. It was a very fun and rewarding job and im happy I tackled it myself. Car has been running amazingly for months now.
Love my hot rod cams
Did you use stock rocker arms? Just curious I didn’t catch if you said you did or didn’t.
Yes, I used stock rockers
@@ryesagainstthemachine2995 did you reuse the stock ones or order new ones
Thanks for the video! Do you need to adjust the position of the crank at all between installing the driver and passenger side camshafts or do you just leave it in the same position for both? Thanks!
to be honest I can't remember that. it's been a while now since I installed them.
If anyone can answer this, I would appreciate it greatly. I have a 05 Mustang GT with 38k miles and I'm hoping to replace only the cams with new Ford Performance Hot Rod Cams. The car has been taken care of for those 17 years, but I'm not sure if it is a good idea to replace the springs/the entire valves since they are that old . Do you think the valves will be fine with those cams?
My car had about the same mileage when I did the job. I did not replace and springs or lifters and it is not required with these cams. A tune is required though.
@@ryesagainstthemachine2995 Gotcha. I just wasn’t sure how aggressive those cams are even though Ford says that they will be fine. I have a local tuner that I like so I’ll have that towed to his shop. I appreciate your help man!
@Rodger Langley what else do you have done to the car? I ask only because you won't get much gain without some decent headers. If your looking just for the aggressive sound you'll get it but without other mods like headers and some more room for the car to breath with intake or throttle body you won't get much HP gain.
@@ryesagainstthemachine2995 I was going to get some long tube headers soon. Currently I’m putting the cams, new intake manifold, throttle body, coil packs, and injectors. I already have a cold air intake on there but it’s just a start for right now
Thanks for the great video! I am curious what your exhaust setup is! The cams sound fantastic in your car. Nice job!
Thanks. It’s Kooks long tube headers, hi flow cats and Roush muffler deletes.
For some reason when I got a catch can I started having idling problems
Good job I want to do the exact same thing to my 08 gt. Did you buy your parts directly from ford?. I bought a JLT series 3 cold air intake with the bama tuner.
BAMA tune is good with a CAI but if you go deeper like cams I would check the forums. You will see that most people go with LITO for there tune. BAMA canned tunes are not optimal at all!!!
I purchased from American Muscle and CJ Pony Parts. Each had certain parts that were cheaper so I split the order.
@@ryesagainstthemachine2995 ok I've about LITO, I herd hes the best!.
@@ryesagainstthemachine2995 you said you had it dyno tuned. where did you get yours done? i want to find a dyno tune shop for my stang
@@kevinmccaffrey9195 You can check in your area. Search dyno tune or speed shop. I got mine done in Baton Rouge at a place called Stang-Hi performance. They have since moved somewhere in Ascension Parish. They are good at what they do but you will pay for that expertise.
i have a stock 2007 gt, how can iachieve this sound?
entire exhaust system
dammit @@robertswift6101
I’m curious I have the cams sitting in my room but I don’t have a tuner cause I read the description on AM that it recommends a tune for it to squeeze out that extra hp, but does it really need to be flashed after the cam install due to it running with the stock phasers and lashers also cause it’s made by the same ford guys who designed the stock cams? I’m still gonna buy the tune either way but I just want to know if it’s recommended or mandatory
I believe it is merely recommended not 100% sure. I would 100% go with the tune. You spent the money on the cams so why not get every ounce out of them.
How much did this setup cost and would you recommend this up grade for my 2006 mustang gt 4.6 with 154000.
if I remember correctly it was close to $2,000. i bought from both American muscle and CJ Pony parts. As for recommendations on your year and mileage I wouldn't know but post up in a forum. Plenty of helpful folks there!!
Nice video! I have an 05 Gt as well and I want to cam it! Quick question do I need the tune before I even start the car with the cams installed? Hard to find detailed information on tuning and when it is required
No, you can tune after the install is complete.
I saw you didn’t use the valve spring compressor is that easy, to do without it or no? And how’s drive ability?
was easy for me. just gotta pay attention and be real careful.
Good job,sir!!
thank you!!!
Good job !
Thanks
sweet setup...i want to do this to mine...i wonder how much hp you gained
Can’t be quite sure but during my last tune I had it dyno tuned and it was putting 318 at the rear wheels.
318 is appropriate for cold air and tuned. But with cams and intake manifold plus cold air and tune.. hopefully x pipe. My guess is 350 wheel
I am trying to do the same thing to my 07 Mustang, but I don’t know how to download the tune for what you just did. Please help me find the loadable tune for these bolt ons’?
You will need to get a custom tune made. I used LITO. If you google LITO tune you will see a ton of infomration, mostly on forums, on how this is done.
Do you need to change intake manifold and throttle body in order to put hot rod cams?
No but it does pair well with the cams.
Peep the Marlboros
The best thing about this, is your buddy and a good woman.
Hell Yeah!! Nothing beats nights in the garage!!
What kinda tune did you use
www.tudyno.com/
He is out of Venezuela. The best 3v tuner on the planet in my opinion. Works real close with you throughout the entire process.
Where can i find those instructions you had?
performanceparts.ford.com/download/instructionsheets/FORDINSTSHTM-6550-3V.PDF
Can I do this to a v6?
Do you have to put a new gasket on?
Yes and RTV Sealant in the same place that it was when you removed it. My valve covers came with the gasket installed.
@@ryesagainstthemachine2995 thanks for the quick response!
Sounds good in all but we talking about 1400 to 1600 in cash for those gains.. where the coyotes at
With other coyotes. Not everybody wants maximum power.
The coyote you paid $4K more for, isn’t already in the garage and that doesn’t sound as good?
Can confirm you are a mustang owner with that install
Sound like roush exust
It most definitely is
@@ryesagainstthemachine2995 figure
Can this set up work for a 2002 f150
Sorry, I am not sure on this. Maybe someone else reading can assist.
BROOM BROOM 05 MUSTANG FLY
My man!!! You like that sound?
@@ryesagainstthemachine2995 YES
Thinking about doing this setup,any regrets,advice ??
@@calewood21 no regrets at all. I love the sound and the power. Having long tube headers and 4:10 gears matched with it helps a lot too.
@@ryesagainstthemachine2995 So I’ve ordered my Ford performance Hot Rod cams,what programmer and tune do I need ?? I watched your video probably 10 times !! lol
Skipped the cam gear/chain/phaser part.
why didnt u film all the work
I was too bust actually doing the work I guess. That's why I said in the beginning it wasn't an instructional video. Just some tips and things I thought others may want to know along my journey.
You trust a Camaro Driver working on your Mustang???
Might be a bad judgment call on my part. 😆
@@ryesagainstthemachine2995 😄
Cams are annoying. The intake, throttle body and jlt tune is all you need.
wat M8
seriously