Dune (2000) miniseries Final scene, the confrontation between Duke Paul Atreides and Emperor Shaddam IV, and the single combat between Paul Atreides and Feyd Harkonnen
Kind of amazing what they've pulled off considering the type of scene dressing they had. Like literal painted canvas in the background and that's it. No wonder they've reused explosion scenes multiple times. Imagine how costly the cgi must have been compared to the rest. It looks horrible by today's standards but around 2000?
@@Kokuyous3ki it still looked horrible in 2000 mate. Cringe as the kids would say 😆. In fact watching this has reminded me of how clunky sci fi used to be until we got decent special effects. Of course these days it goes the other way and drowns you in CGI soup.
@@Kokuyous3ki It managed by the standards of 2000, because its budget wasn't high enough for bad CGI. I think viewing it like a stage production actually enhances the viewing experience.
Director: "The Sardaukar and Fremen are the most feared fighters in the universe." Costumer: "One will look like a futuristic pastry chef, and the other will be outfitted with sassy floppy elf hats." Director: "My vision is coming to life."
I just realized who this portrayal of the guild reminds me of. The Pharisees from Jesus Christ Superstar. I almost expected them to break out in a chorus of "He is dangerous!"
Who ever was the costume designer didn’t know what movie genre this was for. One dude looks like he’s from the Middle Ages, another like goku, another like a monk.
bro thought he was looking into the future of fashion when he was looking at the outcast section of history like im sorry but whoever thought we needed a emperor looking like goku a villain dressed like a monk and the navigators looking like some sort of street dance cult really outdid themselves on the crazy.
@@EricOehler01 -- its not *ALL BAD!* I mean for the time (20 years ago?) and the budget (yes, 20 years ago!) and from SyFy (WTF!) before they wasted all their money on _SHARKNADOE POTATOE POTATO!_ They produced or had some great series produced! Maybe they just bit off more than could be handled, *back then?* Good attempt. At least they did not attempt to limit the run time to under 2.25 hours!
@@drx1xym154 oh man when it came out I loved the miniseries. Children of Dune especially, starring a young James McAvoy! Sure, the effects were cheesy and the whole thing had big High School Production energy, but they actually took the time to try and tell the story.
Because the direction was to capture the ridiculous opulence and extravagance the Great Houses had and were accustomed to. These people were the galactic elites; the richest and highest born houses fighting for control of the one source of the one substance that made it all possible. They were so outlandish because they could afford to be. They were so ridiculous because they could kill with impunity anyone who dared breathe a word against them, unless they were peers, and they were all in it together. Your standard late-stage Imperial blueblood cockatoos.
Meh... Yeah, they looked silly. So do lots of historical clothes. Look at European courts of the mid-17th century, the foppish clothes, the long, curled wigs, the yards of lace. Does that look any less silly?
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After almost 25 years of having fond memories (I was 13 then) of my dad watching this with me, I came to realize: He only suffered through this, because I loved the books. Sorry for having tortured you with this and I wish I could have watched the new adaption with you
Alec Newman's portrayal of Paul Atreides has always been my favorite (especially after seeing the new films which they look great don't get me wrong BUT that's about all those movies have going for them, the substance is non existent in those new films. They don't mention CHOAM, the guild navigators, folding space and all kinds of important elements of the story, they just skip over them like they're not even important) from the sci-fi channel's adaptation of Dune, the two miniseries they made from the first three books in the series. I've always thought Alec Newman was the perfect Paul Atreides, he's not some pretentious pretty boy who's 90lbs soaking wet trying to convince us he's some bad ass(like the actor who plays Paul in those new movies).
The costumes almost ruined the movie for me. Also the guild navigators doing the vouge like madonna is so crazy. I can't believe someone recorded that and said cut thats good. A cardboard cut out would almost be better than that nonsense.
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Yeah, despite how absurd this all is, I'd have loved to see the Emperor's court to be pretty absurd, just a stupid display of wealth that no sane person could take seriously. Still love that they got Christopher Walken though.
I was hoping Charles Dance would have been cast as the Emperor. He would have actually been able to pull of the "jealous and dangerous" aspect of his character. He would have been as terrifying as the Baron. I'm still salty about that one casting choice. At first, I thought it was just a joke that Walken was cast as a meme, until he said "More, more, give me more!" That took me right out of it. I was like, really? Cowbell joke at the climax of your film? WTH?
It is not just Kung Fu Hands. Them are also Tai Chi Hands! Also other hands do similar things ... you know? 47 Ronin know! Despite what the legend may tell!
More importantly, she saw the past. Earlier in the book, Feyd was in the pits fighting a single captured Atreides soldier. The man had been drugged, had a poor quality knife, and was previously tortured- Feyd on the other hand had various barbed hooks, spare knives, everything he'd need to kill this man. And he BARELY managed to win. That lone, nameless Atreides mook came within millimeters of ending Feyd's life right then and there. And he was idolized for it by the other Harkonnen, even the civilian population! It took everything Feyd Rautha had to kill a single GRUNT, and he was a hero across Geidi Prime. And now he is to go up against the heir to Atreides himself? Feyd never had a chance in Hell, even without Paul's abilities of foresight, Feyd was doomed the moment he accepted the Emperor's blade. I was giggling along with Alia.
Honestly, Alia creeps me the hell out. A friend of mine said she popped out the womb fully intelligent. Lol I mean wtf? How the hell do you raise a kid like that??
@@axel4196 he was the BASELINE for House Atreides' military. He was a God damned GI, a standard nameless grunt. There's a reason the Emperor feared the rise of Duke Leto, and why he had to launch a sneak attack with the full might of the Sardaukar plus House Harkonnen to have any chance in hell of snuffing that star out.
If you've ever watched the whole thing, you'd know you're actually pretty spot on. It even has Baron Harkonnen do an "aside" where he speaks to the camera.
10:05 Irulan proves faithful and supportive to Paul and later Leto . She is in fact the narrator of the book. Paul never loved her the way a husband should, but he never hated her either.
He saw her as a pawn and a victim of the political games of her father and the Bene Gesserit sisterhood. I guess in the end, she understood this and it is why she took it upon herself to be the guardian of Muad'Dib's twin children. They in turn loved her very much and the Paul persona inside them, was grateful and loved her to an extent for her dedication.
@@patrickwaldeck6681 Well that is the political power struggle in DUNE. House Corrino was basically brought to extinction of by Muad'Dib, just like Shaddam IV had tried with House Atreides, also leading to House Harkonnen to become extinct aside Paul's bloodline who carries it. Irulan was not as bad as Wensisia (her younger sister, and I possibly misspelled her name BTW) Irulan did what she did because she in fact ended up falling in love with Muad'Dib, while her sister was the real garbage snake because she was hell bent into retaking the Emperor's throne for House Corrino. And it separates the sisters too, because one never understood how much of a tool of her father and the Bene Gesserits she was, but eventually she broke free of them. She had a part to play for the Golden Path. The other was a ruined wretch of a "noble" trying desperately to retake control.
You have a bad, or selective memory of Irulan. I have read the books twice, and I remembered she was in on the Bene Gesserit/Guild conspiracy against Paul. 'Meanwhile, conspirators begin plotting against Paul in the shadows. The Bene Gesserit, Spacing Guild, and Tleilaxu, through a combined effort, create a plan hidden from the prescience of Paul. With the plan to kill Paul, Reverend Mother Mohiam employs Princess Irulan, daughter of Padishah Emperor Shaddam IV'. @@EternalRoman
@@patrickwaldeck6681Paul couldn't find a future where Chani didn't die in childbirth. In the book and the sequel-series to this, he thanks Irulan for technically keeping Chani alive longer by delaying the pregnancy itself.
Yeah I gotta agree, kind of why I like the first book the best. Kinda bummed that not only do they rob the story of its catharsis and resolution, but they also completely undermine "the spice must flow" nature of power the book is about. Yeah, this adaptation is Dr Who levels of silly and cheap, but got DAMN it is sincere and faithful!
I wish I could take the action and battle scenes from the latest movies and put them in this series. Yeah, the ending of _2_ was messed up. Like Chani is upset for most of the film about her Fremen tribe following Paul as a person foretold. Then doesn't see the big picture of the marriage alliance and walks off into the desert because Paul won't marry her? Sounds like the filmmakers don't understand what the deal was about political marriage and concubines; or think that modern women couldn't identify with a Chani that supports Paul, so had to change her.
@@sandal_thong8631idk if you're serious or not but she walked off because she was against Paul becoming this savior of her people and imperial leader, dude literally usurp the throne and starts a galactic jihad
This version is not only the most faithful of the 3 done so far, it's also not dependent on expensive efx shots to seem "epic" The cast does that, with a fraction of the budget "new" lame Dune had
@@dennisduncan7561 watching new Dune was much like reading those old cribnotes booklets for school... Just quick highlights, not an actual story like the original movie was or the much superior miniseries
Oops, thought you meant Alia. Irulan was a bit too mouthy to her father who was supposed to be so fearsome she and her sisters were afraid of what he might do. But whatever.
Fortunately they had some fantastic casting choices to make up for the costuming. Especially in Children of Dune. Before Professor X, James McAvoy was The Whirlwind.
I think it just takes some thinking about to realize; the crazy outfits were all Imperial in origin; the Fremen certainly weren't going about their daily lives in butterfly hats. It was a way to highlight how spoiled rich and ridiculous they all were.
@@BactchanIt seems inspired by the ridiculous ruffs, silly hats, and other impractical clothing of the late Medieval through Enlightenment eras. The shapes are different, but the basic idea of ridiculous outfits to show power and status are the same.
I don't think people at court wearing frivolous, fancy outfits torpedo the series. I do think people going unmasked in the Dune desert so the camera can see their faces is pretty bad. Paul fighting in some kind of robe-skirt is potentially suicidal, but that doesn't seem what the comments around here are about.
Okay, yes, costumes ridiculous and some pretty bad acting in parts, but the point is they got the story right, especially the extended version. These folks figured out the most important rule for understanding the Dune story, especially if they have only seen the Lynch version that the studio butchered: "Dune is about a man playing god, not god making it rain." - Frank Herbert
I don't care. It looked like trash. If I wanted a faithful adaptation I read the books. If I watcha a tv show I don't want trash costumes, acting and sound effects.
i remember stumbling upon this miniseries as a kid and children of dune after it. loved it then and i still do now. it's what convinced me to read dune, messiah, children of dune, god emperor and heretics. even to this day those experiences are especially vivid.
Yes the first dune book is incredible, I have read it maybe 10xs God emperor of dune I didn't like until I read it again then one more time and it's brilliant. What do you think of dune chapter house, I really like it, what do you think?
I only watched the Dune with Sting. I enjoyed it. I just finished the book last night and was thinking of watching the made for tv version. This clip does not sit right with me, the acting would be very absorbing to the eyes of a child, I am sure. This just has too much hamming it up and too much cheese. I bet Japan could do a real great animated feature which would do the book justice.
@@Frey12 wasn't that a surprise The way they converted the matriarchs into something completely different and impossibly stronger than the Bene Gesserit.
Given what they had to work with I think they did an honest job telling the story. People criticize it regularly but you have to appreciate dune to understand the difficulties in making in into a movie
Agree, its the most "fatefull" adaptation of the book. But the bad CGI, bad sets, costumes and for the most part, bad pacing and acting is what "ruins" it. It feel more like a play than a "feature" movie/mini series. I sometime wonder if being true to the book was the reason for it being "bad". I enjoyed it at the time, but i remembet cringind at every turn watching back when it was released. Even Lynch for all the weirdness in his adaption, feels more like Dune than this. Still read the book once every 1 or 2 years! With that said its a must watch for Dune fanatics. =)
@@Brissebrajan Exactly, this series was obviously set up by a theater production. Flashy, gaudy costumes and exaggerated, grandiose acting is great in a stage play, where the audience is seeing the action at a great distance. In a filmed experience, however, it just comes off as cheap and hammy. It was an already difficult story to translate to film without the added obstacle of the weird directing choice. As much as I enjoyed it, it's objectively a back-to-front mess
@@SlickAstley_TVI worked in the 'biz' as a cinematographer; it was actually very faithful to Frank Herbert's book. It is preferable to the 2022 Tommyrot version !😮
I haven't heard much criticism of the series _Dune_ or _Children of Dune._ I think it was missed or ignored. William Hurt was the only name-actor, and his performance was dry like in _The Accidental Tourist._ People do talk about _Dune (1984),_ saying I should see it. But clips I've seen are so ridiculous. I must have liked the first one enough, because I bought the DVD of _Children of Dune,_ too. Saying it looks like a stage play with the funky costumes doesn't bother me. Who knows what people will wear 10,000 years in the future? The only costumes that should matter, are Fremen stillsuits which should cover the body to recycle water and waste products, and be covered by robes, since they are not supposed to be exposed to the sun. But due to theatrics, they don't do this in the movies and shows, always showing their faces and wearing a nose plug. A key scene in _God Emperor of Dune_ is when he takes Siona into the desert but she forgets to cover her face and loses so much water, she might not survive. How do you do that, after letting people go maskless for a couple movies?
He would have looked far worse and crazier, people complain about the costumes in this show, but in the Jodorosky version, every character would have looked insane.
The costumes (Paul looked like Karate Kids lol) and visual effect (those glowy blue eyes) still crack me up, thankfully, they did get better at the Children of Dune: miniseries. I kinda wish they didn't kill off Thufir Hawat earlier thou.
@@mangodip2170 The director, in one of the commentaries, stated that he imagined the Guild reps as snakes and had them move about like it. They also viewed themselves as all important, so they were over dramatic because they thought it make them mystifying.
That doesn't sound right. The key to Arrakis as the Duke saw it was "desert power." He sent Duncan Idaho with Stilgar to foster relations. He expected an attack by Baron Harkonnen's forces augmented by the Emperor's Sardaukar, but didn't think they'd hit so fast and with so many troops it cost them 50 years of profit to bribe the Guild. And of course ferreting out a traitor wasn't given the highest priority.
For those who don't know the back lore of DUne, the reason the Spice is so critical for interstellar travel is it is the ONLY known means to give the Navigators the psychic farsight needed to safely chart travel through space on the Highliners when they jump. The only other way known would be to create "thinking machines," AKA computers that are advanced enough to calculate the same thing. And that level of computers was banned for centuries following the Butlerian Jihad when humanity freed itself from slavery through advanced machines.
@@Bactchan Yeah, I just rewatched one of the episodes with commentary and they said that. One question: Why do humans have whites in their eyes (sclera)? My first search result said it may be for signaling where to look for social animals that cooperate. I remember reading that dogs can pick up on a human's eye movement and may look or go where one is looking, but other animals like Chimps or gorillas that might not cooperate very much do not. Also they don't like to look people or each other in the eye because it's a sign of aggression.
And without Foundation there's no Dune And without Julio Verne there's no Foundation And without Mary Shelley Frankstein there are none of those I could go on
@@TheJunmengo ...yeah that's not true at all LOL those books are not even remotely connected in the way that star wars was directly inspired - george lucas was a huge fan of dune and practically begged herbert not to sue him during a conversation they had in a chance meeting after the release of A New Hope. you also seem to be unaware of the vast catalogue of sci-fi literature not produced in the west
At the end of 6th grade my parents were planning a summer vacation to Wisconsin Dells. My dad took me to the library and asked me to pick out a book. I picked up this book called Dune and in the back of my dad's 1974 Olds 98, I read the hell out of that book. I loved the story so much that I read the book again and again. By the time Christmas rolled around I must have read the book cover to cover about 4 times. It was 1976, one year later Star wars came out. When I saw Star Wars I was so convinced Star Wars was a rip off of Dune, but that is a whole other story. When Lynch's movie came out in 84 I liked the movie but kept seeing whole sections of the book missing from the movie. I dont think it is possible to make a movie that is true to the book.
A childhood friend of mine said the same thing about Star Wars being a ripoff of Dune. We were both from Wisconsin too. When I was young I thought the trick with the dog jumping at Stand Rock was neat (I was 8 at the time) and now it sickens me. Cool book though (Dune).
@@SnuffitLabs did you grow up in the 70s too? America was such a nice place back then. We had rented a cabin that summer, right on the lake. There were native Americans in the area, they were super nice, we attended a pow wow one night, will tell my grand children about it one day.
@@silentvoiceinthedark5665 Lived most of my life here. We never got to go to the pow wows, but my dad rented hunting land we'd camp on most of the summer and into winter near Big Flats/Adams Friendship. The guy who owned that land died from mesothelioma a couple decades ago. 70s were great. Always had the trucker music on the handful of radio stations that were available in Central WI back then . . . when radio was mostly AM and you had a choice of Religious Sermon radio or country-western.
@@silentvoiceinthedark5665 nice place through a child's eyes. 1970 I was 11 watching Vietnam and the black problems every night on the news. America was transforming into the nightmare it is now.
@@DagwoodDogwoggle Not at first. At some point during adolescence or on the verge of adulthood in _Children of Dune,_ she loses her mind to the many ancestral memories and gives the Baron Harkonnen dominance within her to silence them. Funny, now that I think of it, how could a Bene Gesserit female/Reverend Mother meet her paternal ancestors within? Wasn't that the point of breeding a Qwisatz Haderach? But somehow achieving consciousness in the womb changed that. I think one of the twins says the Bene Gesserit should have allowed at least one "abomination" in their line, so descendants whom that happened to could benefit from the experience. Well, some Reverend mothers are probably descended from Ghanima, so if it happens again.... Or it could be one of the many changes the story took from _Dune_ to _Dune Messiah_ to _Children of Dune_ to _God Emperor of Dune._ Like bringing back Duncan Idaho as a Ghola.
I actually don't think she was being sarcastic at all! She is on her brother's side, always, and she was applauding his victory. And she does not give a tinker's damn if she's the only one applauding, or if others think it's inappropriate.
her slow clap after the kill while everyone else is silently horrified at paul cementing his power grab is the best part of the scene. awesome little touch.
if this series had a bigger budget it would have been one of the greatest things evrer put on screen. Its the only portrayal that stayed true to the books on many levels
I completely agree with this statement. Most people give this mini-series a lot of crap (some of it warranted tbh) but considering the budget and that it was made from a pre-GoT daytime tv channel, they went out of their way to stay loyal to the material. And they should be commended for that.
Lower production values than the David Lynch and Denis Villeneuve films, but much more true and respectful to the books of Frank Herbert. Thank you warmly for uploading this video.
Villeneuve was equally respectful, though not as literal. I do wish they had kept the changed water of life bit, but I suppose Villeneuve thought there wasn't sufficient time to explain it.
I know a lot of a of people who thought that Paul winning this battle because he "shocked" Feyd with the revelation that they were cousins was kind of weak. And honestly, I hate to say it but I kind of agree with them. So I genuinely believe that in the 2024 movie when Paul reveals to Feyd that they're cousins and Feyd's reaction is a very non-plussed "Is that so? Neat" that that's a indirect reference to this moment
for those not aware....the COSTUMES were inspired by Jean Giraud, also known as the great Mobius, the French SCI-FI comicbook artist. the same guy inspired the look of The Fifth Element.
After the silly mess of the 1983 movie, most Dune fans regarded this miniseries as a massive improvement. I sure as hell did. The latest movie has spoiled us.
People tell me to watch Dune (1984), but the clips I've watched are ridiculous. This at least is faithful to the book, including the ending about concubines being the true wives of those who must marry for political alliance. If there's a criticism to be had it's low-budget green screen fights and battles as well as silly looking outfits, like Paul is wearing during the fight. But silly looking outfits by those in the royal entourage is to be expected.
I picked up the book at the Philadelphia airport waiting on my flight to my first overseas duty station on the border in West Germany. I re-read it twice during my 30 month deployment. I did go to the movies to see the David Lynch version; I was disappointed but I did watch it on late night TV again and again. I couldn’t get into these SYFY channels attempt. So excited to see this new two-part version and to give my old copy to my youngest son so he can . understand his old man’s love of the book.
I've seen bits of this but it never did much for me. I know there are those that don't like the 1984 version and, when compared to the book, I can understand why. But I have always loved it. Probably because I watched it as a movie only separate from the book as opposed to an adaptation.
I agree completely with you, the 1984 version was much better as a stand alone film, this was not a patch on the original. In fact I am going to watch the old version as soon as I finish this.
The direction and screenplay are movie-of-the-week. Lighting was produced with a police helicopter, and costume design is half Disney, half Jodorowsky.
Rumour has it that if you dare say jodorowsky's name three times when there is a full moon, his version of Dune shall spring into being causing the entire population of the earth to become addicted to psychotropic drugs heralding the end of the human race.
Jodorowski would applaud your comment. He is alive living in Paris today. He has written books on psycho shamanism. He tome on Dune sparked the story line of many sci Fi TV and movies after his visions.
I love that there are getting be more Dune retellings, because it is like Shakespeare, a classic, as Herbert meant it to be. I hope that Villaneuve pays more attention to Feyd. I love Irulan's character and am excited to see how Pugh portrays her.
After reading the book first, I love the Dune 2000 book adaptation for the way of telling the story! The costumes may be basic, especially compared to the first high budget Dune film adaptation, but they do the job and give good optical differentiaton. The CGI elements got way better for the follow up films "children of Dune", which take the story to the next genereation and raise cruzial questions of what is deemed the "good" and the "evil" side. The actors played spectecular well in all parts, their motives are well shown, making it easy to feel with all the characters in some ways. It goes way beyond the sterotypical "good" versus "evil" in so many action films, while still using the same mechanisms and a hopeful prosperous ending. For me it has almost biblical proportions and messages - in a good way!
No, early 2000s sci fi TV was supposed to be colorful and bright. It also contrasts to all the desert scenes. Its ment to show the crazyness and oppulence of the empire compared to the fremen.
If you read the books you really appreciate these movies because of the lore is just so great, and everyone is taking a shot at it and we get to technically re read it again :) Edit: a lot of people seem to miss that paul was insanely stacked when being born, spoilers but if youre here you know :p, he was born by a rogue bene gesserit who disrupted a long plan to birth and groom a male bene gesserit to acess the male memories, but the rogue wanted to give house atreides a male heir, then started training to take a life as soon as he was able to hold a blade, the rogue taught him basic bene gesserit tech' and to top it all of the rogue bene gesserit is the daughter if the main agressor towards the atreides, harkonen, atreides, male bene gesserit spice weilding walking 15 year old weapon. I could just go on man, dude started to become a menace too, heard a prophecy and just ran with it.
Also...that was possible because unknown to the, bene gesserits, Lady Jessica was Baron Harkonen's daughter...so she was a female Harkonen who had a child with a Male Atreides. The opposite of what they planned...they were one generation off on the Quizat Haderach.
I just rewatched the mini series and it so good tragic and sad but good. You can't tell it from that scene, but she is a really good character and grows in good ways.
This miniseries has its flaws but it also was quite ambitious and was fairly successful. It had a budget of 20 million dollars with a runtime of 4 hours and 25 minutes.
You're quite right; Alec Newman seems rather indifferent and I especially dislike his formulaic way of portraying Paul as a young boy: "Oh, let's portray him as immature to make him seem younger, and so make him appear as a complete dickhead!" McLachlan wanted the part badly - at least that's what I heard, at any rate he was a Dune fan - and he does bring a certain dedication to the part and his portrayal was much more nuanced.
I don't get the hate this series is getting. It's like everyone was disappointed it wasn't a word-for-word rendition of the 1984 original. They dispensed with the internal dialogues, something that didn't work in the original (it worked great in the novel, but it was a distraction on the screen). They skipped a scene or two from the 1984 version, and added other sorely missed scenes. Yes, it was a low-budget cable production, but it was adequate for the series. Also, there is an orgy scene, and Chani gets topless! What is everyone complaining about? And I liked the costumes, they were great.
The costumes had a distinctly Ancient Egyptian vibe to them. Except for those god-awful hats that look like they were taken from a party at Jake Gatsby's house. I actually like the new series, on HBO. The 1984 was quite good too. I did like the internal dialogue. Was not distracted at all.
I know it is cheesy, but I think the last line in the book marks it as one of the greats. You don't really expect the author to end it on that note, but he does. When I was a kid, I read junk food books. But slowly over the years, I have grown into picking and reading ever more quality literature. Progression from Drizzt Do'urden to the Aubrey Maturin series. Dune was just one rung in the ladder. The Bible is on the ladder as well. So is Orson Scott Card, Known Space, Wheel of Time, Star Wars, The Magicians, The Laundry Files, and the Stormlight Archives. I will find more as I grow.
The Kingkiller Chronicles are FANTASTIC, but the author got all butthurt over an internet fight with fans that he still hasn't published the third one. Dick. Lol
I love this fight in the book. As a point of pride, Paul refrains from using the Weirding Way because he wants to be able beat Feyd without it. He doesn't even give in when Feyd cheats. He uses his wit and distracts him by calling him cousin. That moment of confusion is all he needs to win without any supernatural powers.
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This is the greatest high school play ever filmed.
They got a bigger budget in Children of Dune..and the acting improved greatly.
Kind of amazing what they've pulled off considering the type of scene dressing they had. Like literal painted canvas in the background and that's it. No wonder they've reused explosion scenes multiple times. Imagine how costly the cgi must have been compared to the rest. It looks horrible by today's standards but around 2000?
I was going to say this was like a high school performance of a Shakespearean play…
@@Kokuyous3ki it still looked horrible in 2000 mate. Cringe as the kids would say 😆. In fact watching this has reminded me of how clunky sci fi used to be until we got decent special effects. Of course these days it goes the other way and drowns you in CGI soup.
@@Kokuyous3ki It managed by the standards of 2000, because its budget wasn't high enough for bad CGI.
I think viewing it like a stage production actually enhances the viewing experience.
After seeing this, Paul Atreides is now my favorite Tekken character.
FOUL HAHAHHA
Ong, bro looks like he was a discount white zeo ranger.
hahaha
Then don't watch Children of Dune if you like his character. Part 2 or 3.
@@jasonjackson7389 McAvoy knocked it out of the park as Leto 2nd tho. Worth seeing Children of Dune for his performance.
Paul is dressed like an off- duty Power Ranger.
I was thinking I was the only one, reminds me of the Ninja rangers from the 90-00's 🤣🤣😂😂
@@JoshuaSelig-tz6hc -- yo, bro - do not believe everything you think.
do not think everything you write is written when it is printed twice.
Dude, he looks like he's wearing a bath robe!
@@drx1xym154You should rethink writing in English so confidently typing nonsense like that lol
I deadass just commented this on another post when I saw you're comment
Director: "The Sardaukar and Fremen are the most feared fighters in the universe."
Costumer: "One will look like a futuristic pastry chef, and the other will be outfitted with sassy floppy elf hats."
Director: "My vision is coming to life."
Worst costume design I’ve ever seen
What a clown show.
yeah the costume designer should never had been in this serie, total nut job 😄😄😆😆😆
@@user-ht1jg4qz3h "DER-E-LEEEKT!!!!!"
Good job sticking to the plot. Horrible special effects and costuming.
"The Guillllllllllllllllllllllld... does not take your orderssssssssss". Too funny for words.
It's the hand movements that kill me LOL
Hahaha. They almost sound reptilian. I thought he was going to unleash some wizard power with the hand gestures he was making.
I just realized who this portrayal of the guild reminds me of. The Pharisees from Jesus Christ Superstar. I almost expected them to break out in a chorus of "He is dangerous!"
"The Guild does not take your orders!"
"The Spice will not flow."
"Would you like fries with your order?"
@@pwnmeisterage lol
Why is paul dressed like a pope who does karate💀
Pope Paul IV of Kowabunga
Because the people in charge of costume are stoned
The Harkonnen dressed in orange with a kite on their back just mind blowing lol
costume designer :
'NOW IS MY CHANCE TO SHOW THE WORLD, NOW OR NEVER '!!! YAAAAAA😸😸😸
Like costumes were designed by gay Frenchmen on LSD.
Suuuuuuuuucks.
Who ever was the costume designer didn’t know what movie genre this was for.
One dude looks like he’s from the Middle Ages, another like goku, another like a monk.
bro thought he was looking into the future of fashion when he was looking at the outcast section of history like im sorry but whoever thought we needed a emperor looking like goku a villain dressed like a monk and the navigators looking like some sort of street dance cult really outdid themselves on the crazy.
100% the awful costumes almost rune the whole show. Also the guild guy doing the vouge.
Final fight scene: “a nice sheer white skirt will be lovely …”
Actually I always heard they were closer to the books than the first
This one was a pile of shit
Why is everyone dressed up like they're in an Empire of the Sun music video?
That’s funny, I once saw Empire of the Sun described as “The Melbourne Community Theater presents Frank Herbert’s Dune.”
Omg, you’re right! Lol
@@EricOehler01 -- its not *ALL BAD!* I mean for the time (20 years ago?) and the budget (yes, 20 years ago!) and from SyFy (WTF!) before they wasted all their money on _SHARKNADOE POTATOE POTATO!_ They produced or had some great series produced!
Maybe they just bit off more than could be handled, *back then?*
Good attempt. At least they did not attempt to limit the run time to under 2.25 hours!
@@drx1xym154 oh man when it came out I loved the miniseries. Children of Dune especially, starring a young James McAvoy! Sure, the effects were cheesy and the whole thing had big High School Production energy, but they actually took the time to try and tell the story.
Because the direction was to capture the ridiculous opulence and extravagance the Great Houses had and were accustomed to. These people were the galactic elites; the richest and highest born houses fighting for control of the one source of the one substance that made it all possible. They were so outlandish because they could afford to be. They were so ridiculous because they could kill with impunity anyone who dared breathe a word against them, unless they were peers, and they were all in it together. Your standard late-stage Imperial blueblood cockatoos.
Yes, that guy is the Emperor because there is no one who has dared to tell him how silly he looks in those clothes.
Chiffon arm wings were very "in" that year.....
I don't think anyone in that scene can allow itself to mock another one's clothes.
Meh... Yeah, they looked silly. So do lots of historical clothes. Look at European courts of the mid-17th century, the foppish clothes, the long, curled wigs, the yards of lace. Does that look any less silly?
The Emperor's silly new clothes. 😂
❤❤❤YOU DO NOT HAVE TO FEAR DEATH IF YOU BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST, AND TRUST IN HIM WITH ALL YOUR HEART, BECAUSE HE ATONED FOR YOU FOR ALL YOUR INSULTS, THAT YOU WOULD OBTAIN PEACE WITH ALMIGHTY GOD, AND GO TO HEAVEN BY HIS GRACE!!!!!❤❤❤!!!❤❤❤!!!❤❤❤!!!❤❤
Easily the third best twink fight of the year 2000.
Not even the Guild's interpretative dance squad could stop Paul.
Now I’m interested to know what’s the best and second best twink fight of the year 2000
@@weijinheng3194 Second was Vidane vs Kuja in FFIX. First, probably the last fight in Mission Impossible 2?
After almost 25 years of having fond memories (I was 13 then) of my dad watching this with me, I came to realize: He only suffered through this, because I loved the books. Sorry for having tortured you with this and I wish I could have watched the new adaption with you
I felt this was pretty faithful to the books. Chani was certainly better portrayed here than by Zendaya whose Chani was angry the whole time.
Alec Newman's portrayal of Paul Atreides has always been my favorite (especially after seeing the new films which they look great don't get me wrong BUT that's about all those movies have going for them, the substance is non existent in those new films. They don't mention CHOAM, the guild navigators, folding space and all kinds of important elements of the story, they just skip over them like they're not even important) from the sci-fi channel's adaptation of Dune, the two miniseries they made from the first three books in the series. I've always thought Alec Newman was the perfect Paul Atreides, he's not some pretentious pretty boy who's 90lbs soaking wet trying to convince us he's some bad ass(like the actor who plays Paul in those new movies).
These costumes are something. I was waiting for the guild guys to break into a dance showdown scene.
The Department of Silly Hats expanded to include collars and worked overtime on this one.
Guild street boys
The costumes almost ruined the movie for me. Also the guild navigators doing the vouge like madonna is so crazy. I can't believe someone recorded that and said cut thats good. A cardboard cut out would almost be better than that nonsense.
@@ChrisC-qh4io I'm thinking "Team America World Police" and "Thunderbirds" style production for Dune with puppets and stuff.
I would have loved to see the Emperor fly out a window😂😂
Man this Karate Kid/Dune crossover was crazy!
True, the fight choreography was maybe the weak spot.
Haha was thinking the same thing.
@@gdubsterz1238 Same here! 😁
True it could have been short and simple
❤❤❤YOU DO NOT HAVE TO FEAR DEATH IF YOU BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST, AND TRUST IN HIM WITH ALL YOUR HEART, BECAUSE HE ATONED FOR YOU FOR ALL YOUR INSULTS, THAT YOU WOULD OBTAIN PEACE WITH ALMIGHTY GOD, AND GO TO HEAVEN BY HIS GRACE!!!!!❤❤❤!!!❤❤❤!!!❤❤❤!!!❤❤
Ah, I remember..
*Dune 2 - the Kickboxer"
Dune 3 - Bloodsport
@@mezrahiyann7601 Dune 4 - Dune Harder
Production design with all the influence that an Encarta encyclopedia cd-rom box has to offer.
The emperor in this dresses much more how I would have expected christopher walken to dress.
I was looking forward to CW as the emperor, but it was far less interesting in reality...
Yeah, despite how absurd this all is, I'd have loved to see the Emperor's court to be pretty absurd, just a stupid display of wealth that no sane person could take seriously. Still love that they got Christopher Walken though.
I was hoping Charles Dance would have been cast as the Emperor. He would have actually been able to pull of the "jealous and dangerous" aspect of his character. He would have been as terrifying as the Baron. I'm still salty about that one casting choice.
At first, I thought it was just a joke that Walken was cast as a meme, until he said "More, more, give me more!"
That took me right out of it. I was like, really? Cowbell joke at the climax of your film?
WTH?
@PenTheMighty I got tha' fever and the only cure is...more spice! 😄
The guild rep with the Kung fu hands always cracks me up. Lolz
It is not just Kung Fu Hands.
Them are also Tai Chi Hands!
Also other hands do similar things ... you know?
47 Ronin know! Despite what the legend may tell!
If Cirque du Soleil got into the sci-fi game.
I chuckle at the little girls silly laugh.
She has seen the future and knows the outcome. Great story.
More importantly, she saw the past. Earlier in the book, Feyd was in the pits fighting a single captured Atreides soldier. The man had been drugged, had a poor quality knife, and was previously tortured- Feyd on the other hand had various barbed hooks, spare knives, everything he'd need to kill this man. And he BARELY managed to win. That lone, nameless Atreides mook came within millimeters of ending Feyd's life right then and there. And he was idolized for it by the other Harkonnen, even the civilian population! It took everything Feyd Rautha had to kill a single GRUNT, and he was a hero across Geidi Prime.
And now he is to go up against the heir to Atreides himself? Feyd never had a chance in Hell, even without Paul's abilities of foresight, Feyd was doomed the moment he accepted the Emperor's blade. I was giggling along with Alia.
Honestly, Alia creeps me the hell out. A friend of mine said she popped out the womb fully intelligent. Lol I mean wtf? How the hell do you raise a kid like that??
@@rhorybader4054 That Atreides grunt sounds badass! Feyd should have taken the girl's giggling as a dark omen and noped the hell out of there!
@@axel4196 he was the BASELINE for House Atreides' military. He was a God damned GI, a standard nameless grunt. There's a reason the Emperor feared the rise of Duke Leto, and why he had to launch a sneak attack with the full might of the Sardaukar plus House Harkonnen to have any chance in hell of snuffing that star out.
@@rhorybader4054 That’s because the man was not drugged.
It was Feyd’s ploy I believe but the soldier was fully present.
I feel like I'm watching a well-made high school play of Dune.
If you've ever watched the whole thing, you'd know you're actually pretty spot on. It even has Baron Harkonnen do an "aside" where he speaks to the camera.
super original comment bro, I totally didn't see this comment on every other Dune 2000 video trending in the last couple months
@@Quoxozist I was trying to make an original comment, rather than simply express what it seemed like to me. Bravo.
10:05 Irulan proves faithful and supportive to Paul and later Leto . She is in fact the narrator of the book. Paul never loved her the way a husband should, but he never hated her either.
He saw her as a pawn and a victim of the political games of her father and the Bene Gesserit sisterhood. I guess in the end, she understood this and it is why she took it upon herself to be the guardian of Muad'Dib's twin children. They in turn loved her very much and the Paul persona inside them, was grateful and loved her to an extent for her dedication.
Huh? She goes out of her way to try and prevent Chani having Paul's children and likely indirectly killed her. She was always a snake in the grass.
@@patrickwaldeck6681 Well that is the political power struggle in DUNE. House Corrino was basically brought to extinction of by Muad'Dib, just like Shaddam IV had tried with House Atreides, also leading to House Harkonnen to become extinct aside Paul's bloodline who carries it.
Irulan was not as bad as Wensisia (her younger sister, and I possibly misspelled her name BTW) Irulan did what she did because she in fact ended up falling in love with Muad'Dib, while her sister was the real garbage snake because she was hell bent into retaking the Emperor's throne for House Corrino. And it separates the sisters too, because one never understood how much of a tool of her father and the Bene Gesserits she was, but eventually she broke free of them. She had a part to play for the Golden Path. The other was a ruined wretch of a "noble" trying desperately to retake control.
You have a bad, or selective memory of Irulan. I have read the books twice, and I remembered she was in on the Bene Gesserit/Guild conspiracy against Paul. 'Meanwhile, conspirators begin plotting against Paul in the shadows. The Bene Gesserit, Spacing Guild, and Tleilaxu, through a combined effort, create a plan hidden from the prescience of Paul. With the plan to kill Paul, Reverend Mother Mohiam employs Princess Irulan, daughter of Padishah Emperor Shaddam IV'. @@EternalRoman
@@patrickwaldeck6681Paul couldn't find a future where Chani didn't die in childbirth. In the book and the sequel-series to this, he thanks Irulan for technically keeping Chani alive longer by delaying the pregnancy itself.
I always crack up when Alia laughs at Fayd when he takes off his shirt lol. Her kid laugh is super cute.
Old Fyed does not look as tough or menacing as the new Elvis Feyd!
Also the line Mor'dib gave when they were tussling, priceless - cousin!
Well, she's supposed to be a outside but due to being pre-born many adult women inside!
@@drx1xym154 who the hell is Mor'dib? Can he do Morbin time?
Cute? She was a little psycho. The director got that right to set up the next miniseries.
@@DagwoodDogwoggle They took her character completely out of the latest movie. Maybe they thought she was too cringe.
And there's the last happy ending you're going to get in Dune... that's as happy as it gets :)
This is more fulfilling and a happier ending than what they did to Zendaya... 😢
Yeah I gotta agree, kind of why I like the first book the best. Kinda bummed that not only do they rob the story of its catharsis and resolution, but they also completely undermine "the spice must flow" nature of power the book is about. Yeah, this adaptation is Dr Who levels of silly and cheap, but got DAMN it is sincere and faithful!
I wish I could take the action and battle scenes from the latest movies and put them in this series. Yeah, the ending of _2_ was messed up. Like Chani is upset for most of the film about her Fremen tribe following Paul as a person foretold. Then doesn't see the big picture of the marriage alliance and walks off into the desert because Paul won't marry her?
Sounds like the filmmakers don't understand what the deal was about political marriage and concubines; or think that modern women couldn't identify with a Chani that supports Paul, so had to change her.
@@sandal_thong8631idk if you're serious or not but she walked off because she was against Paul becoming this savior of her people and imperial leader, dude literally usurp the throne and starts a galactic jihad
This has all the energy and precision of a high school production.
Hey Joe T you stole my line. I just watch this and thought to myself reminds me of high school plays. or at least the pathetic ones.
This version is not only the most faithful of the 3 done so far, it's also not dependent on expensive efx shots to seem "epic"
The cast does that, with a fraction of the budget "new" lame Dune had
New Dune is not "lame". It has it's own unique style.
@@dennisduncan7561 lame style
@@dennisduncan7561 watching new Dune was much like reading those old cribnotes booklets for school... Just quick highlights, not an actual story like the original movie was or the much superior miniseries
It was a solid adaption, particularly considering that they probably had about 5% the budget of a Hollywood event production.
And costumes where so close to the style of Moebius
"Solid adaption"? Obviously you never even came near the novel.
I just started watching the first episode. Either the writing or acting isn't very good. It's painful in some spots.
Well your movie stinks.
In concept it was done well but those costume decisions are inexcusable.
I really enjoyed how the makers of the mini-series "fleshed out" the character of Princess Irulan and Julie Cox portrayed her very well.
aye.. though mini series ?
Fleshing out the story is the sole virtue of this mini-series.
esp in the sequil series where she was a bigger character
Oops, thought you meant Alia. Irulan was a bit too mouthy to her father who was supposed to be so fearsome she and her sisters were afraid of what he might do. But whatever.
I've only seen the new Dune once, but as far as I'm concerned nobody beats Sting's Feyd Rautha or Brad Dourif's Piter de Vries.
Loved this miniseries and the Children of Dune that followed. Was quite a stunning production for the SciFi network(IIRC) and a lot of cool actors.
I love Dune in all its adaptations. "The spice must flow".
same... the book series and each adaptation... love them all
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And sometimes the spice is peyote, and sometimes it flows into the costume department's air vents, but damnit it flows regardless!
I remember these as being faithful adaptations that were harmed by questionable costuming decisions.
Fortunately they had some fantastic casting choices to make up for the costuming. Especially in Children of Dune. Before Professor X, James McAvoy was The Whirlwind.
But this is how people are going to dress 20,000 years in the future. 😉
I think it just takes some thinking about to realize; the crazy outfits were all Imperial in origin; the Fremen certainly weren't going about their daily lives in butterfly hats. It was a way to highlight how spoiled rich and ridiculous they all were.
@@BactchanIt seems inspired by the ridiculous ruffs, silly hats, and other impractical clothing of the late Medieval through Enlightenment eras. The shapes are different, but the basic idea of ridiculous outfits to show power and status are the same.
I don't think people at court wearing frivolous, fancy outfits torpedo the series. I do think people going unmasked in the Dune desert so the camera can see their faces is pretty bad. Paul fighting in some kind of robe-skirt is potentially suicidal, but that doesn't seem what the comments around here are about.
The Spacing Guild apparently studied under Bob Fosse.
Okay, yes, costumes ridiculous and some pretty bad acting in parts, but the point is they got the story right, especially the extended version. These folks figured out the most important rule for understanding the Dune story, especially if they have only seen the Lynch version that the studio butchered:
"Dune is about a man playing god, not god making it rain." - Frank Herbert
Sadly, in the process they took everything of interest from the movie.
They may have gotten the story right, but everything else is very distracting and it's hard to watch.
Bullshit
I love this version.
I don't care. It looked like trash. If I wanted a faithful adaptation I read the books. If I watcha a tv show I don't want trash costumes, acting and sound effects.
@@joser1853 this is how TV sci fi was supposed to look in 2001. Bright and colorful.
i remember stumbling upon this miniseries as a kid and children of dune after it. loved it then and i still do now. it's what convinced me to read dune, messiah, children of dune, god emperor and heretics. even to this day those experiences are especially vivid.
Yes the first dune book is incredible, I have read it maybe 10xs God emperor of dune I didn't like until I read it again then one more time and it's brilliant. What do you think of dune chapter house, I really like it, what do you think?
I only watched the Dune with Sting. I enjoyed it. I just finished the book last night and was thinking of watching the made for tv version. This clip does not sit right with me, the acting would be very absorbing to the eyes of a child, I am sure. This just has too much hamming it up and too much cheese. I bet Japan could do a real great animated feature which would do the book justice.
The Bene Gesseritt are so fudging fun as protagonists. I LOVE THEM. Chapter house and Heretics were awesome.
@@Frey12 wasn't that a surprise The way they converted the matriarchs into something completely different and impossibly stronger than the Bene Gesserit.
If I would have seen this before I read dinner would have never read it.
Given what they had to work with I think they did an honest job telling the story. People criticize it regularly but you have to appreciate dune to understand the difficulties in making in into a movie
Agree, its the most "fatefull" adaptation of the book. But the bad CGI, bad sets, costumes and for the most part, bad pacing and acting is what "ruins" it. It feel more like a play than a "feature" movie/mini series. I sometime wonder if being true to the book was the reason for it being "bad". I enjoyed it at the time, but i remembet cringind at every turn watching back when it was released. Even Lynch for all the weirdness in his adaption, feels more like Dune than this. Still read the book once every 1 or 2 years! With that said its a must watch for Dune fanatics. =)
@@Brissebrajan Exactly, this series was obviously set up by a theater production. Flashy, gaudy costumes and exaggerated, grandiose acting is great in a stage play, where the audience is seeing the action at a great distance. In a filmed experience, however, it just comes off as cheap and hammy. It was an already difficult story to translate to film without the added obstacle of the weird directing choice. As much as I enjoyed it, it's objectively a back-to-front mess
@@SlickAstley_TVI worked in the 'biz' as a cinematographer; it was actually very faithful to Frank Herbert's book. It is preferable to the 2022 Tommyrot version !😮
I haven't heard much criticism of the series _Dune_ or _Children of Dune._ I think it was missed or ignored. William Hurt was the only name-actor, and his performance was dry like in _The Accidental Tourist._ People do talk about _Dune (1984),_ saying I should see it. But clips I've seen are so ridiculous. I must have liked the first one enough, because I bought the DVD of _Children of Dune,_ too. Saying it looks like a stage play with the funky costumes doesn't bother me. Who knows what people will wear 10,000 years in the future?
The only costumes that should matter, are Fremen stillsuits which should cover the body to recycle water and waste products, and be covered by robes, since they are not supposed to be exposed to the sun. But due to theatrics, they don't do this in the movies and shows, always showing their faces and wearing a nose plug. A key scene in _God Emperor of Dune_ is when he takes Siona into the desert but she forgets to cover her face and loses so much water, she might not survive. How do you do that, after letting people go maskless for a couple movies?
I guess this is what the production that was going to have Salvador Dali as the emperor would look like
Jodorosky's Dune, while never made, is still present in many groundbreaking Sci-Fi movies that came after...
He would have looked far worse and crazier, people complain about the costumes in this show, but in the Jodorosky version, every character would have looked insane.
thank God joborowski never got his shot😬😬
The costumes (Paul looked like Karate Kids lol) and visual effect (those glowy blue eyes) still crack me up, thankfully, they did get better at the Children of Dune: miniseries. I kinda wish they didn't kill off Thufir Hawat earlier thou.
And the man in the Green hood, like an garden dwarf. 😂😂
He dies in the novel, so he has to die in the miniseries.
I find the Navigators funny with their actions almost like they are about to dnace
@@mangodip2170 Looked like someone was about to get served lol.
@@mangodip2170 The director, in one of the commentaries, stated that he imagined the Guild reps as snakes and had them move about like it. They also viewed themselves as all important, so they were over dramatic because they thought it make them mystifying.
"Learn this lesson well son, if you want to hold Arrakis you must be prepared to fight fear with fear. Fear and power."-Duke Leto Atereides
That doesn't sound right. The key to Arrakis as the Duke saw it was "desert power." He sent Duncan Idaho with Stilgar to foster relations. He expected an attack by Baron Harkonnen's forces augmented by the Emperor's Sardaukar, but didn't think they'd hit so fast and with so many troops it cost them 50 years of profit to bribe the Guild. And of course ferreting out a traitor wasn't given the highest priority.
The Spacing Guild was everything
For those who don't know the back lore of DUne, the reason the Spice is so critical for interstellar travel is it is the ONLY known means to give the Navigators the psychic farsight needed to safely chart travel through space on the Highliners when they jump. The only other way known would be to create "thinking machines," AKA computers that are advanced enough to calculate the same thing. And that level of computers was banned for centuries following the Butlerian Jihad when humanity freed itself from slavery through advanced machines.
If you put instead spice - Oil …. everything does make a sense of logic.
That was indeed the point
Wow it’s like you just learned what allegory means
6:30 they forgot to blued his left eye, LOL
They had to use black light and UV-reactive contacts in a lot of these scenes and didn't always hit the mark.
@@Bactchan Yeah, I just rewatched one of the episodes with commentary and they said that.
One question: Why do humans have whites in their eyes (sclera)?
My first search result said it may be for signaling where to look for social animals that cooperate. I remember reading that dogs can pick up on a human's eye movement and may look or go where one is looking, but other animals like Chimps or gorillas that might not cooperate very much do not. Also they don't like to look people or each other in the eye because it's a sign of aggression.
I love all three versions
Right. It's DUNE. Giant worms, intergalactic intrigue, psychic drug use, Arabs, it's got it all!
@@BOBXFILES2374a witches, human computers, space folding …
Each has its charms, and it's flaws.
This thread is the best one here lol
I love how Paul looks like Sting's Feyd Rautha from the 1984 version 😅
Not really... at all
If this was made in the late 70's or early 80's it would be easier to wrap my mind around the costumes.
22 years ago i watched this, how the world changed its so fast
enjoy the moments every1
without Dune, there would be no Starwars
Dune, and a whole lot of other sci-fi books.
And without Foundation there's no Dune
And without Julio Verne there's no Foundation
And without Mary Shelley Frankstein there are none of those
I could go on
@@TheJunmengoNo Mention of HG Wells ?
@@TheJunmengo ...yeah that's not true at all LOL those books are not even remotely connected in the way that star wars was directly inspired - george lucas was a huge fan of dune and practically begged herbert not to sue him during a conversation they had in a chance meeting after the release of A New Hope. you also seem to be unaware of the vast catalogue of sci-fi literature not produced in the west
Star Wars was mostly based on Kurosawa films and Spaghetti Westerns that were inspired by Kurosawa films. Lucas also cites Flash Gordon. So ... nah.
At the end of 6th grade my parents were planning a summer vacation to Wisconsin Dells. My dad took me to the library and asked me to pick out a book. I picked up this book called Dune and in the back of my dad's 1974 Olds 98, I read the hell out of that book. I loved the story so much that I read the book again and again. By the time Christmas rolled around I must have read the book cover to cover about 4 times. It was 1976, one year later Star wars came out. When I saw Star Wars I was so convinced Star Wars was a rip off of Dune, but that is a whole other story. When Lynch's movie came out in 84 I liked the movie but kept seeing whole sections of the book missing from the movie. I dont think it is possible to make a movie that is true to the book.
A childhood friend of mine said the same thing about Star Wars being a ripoff of Dune. We were both from Wisconsin too. When I was young I thought the trick with the dog jumping at Stand Rock was neat (I was 8 at the time) and now it sickens me. Cool book though (Dune).
@@SnuffitLabs I only remember the oat ski jumpers
@@SnuffitLabs did you grow up in the 70s too? America was such a nice place back then. We had rented a cabin that summer, right on the lake. There were native Americans in the area, they were super nice, we attended a pow wow one night, will tell my grand children about it one day.
@@silentvoiceinthedark5665 Lived most of my life here. We never got to go to the pow wows, but my dad rented hunting land we'd camp on most of the summer and into winter near Big Flats/Adams Friendship. The guy who owned that land died from mesothelioma a couple decades ago. 70s were great. Always had the trucker music on the handful of radio stations that were available in Central WI back then . . . when radio was mostly AM and you had a choice of Religious Sermon radio or country-western.
@@silentvoiceinthedark5665 nice place through a child's eyes. 1970 I was 11 watching Vietnam and the black problems every night on the news. America was transforming into the nightmare it is now.
Klaus Schwab would fit in nicely with his Lord of the Universe cape, pendant and regalia
Better eat by a giant worm.
"it is by vill alone vat i set my mind in motion."
I must really like this Dune movies to keep watching this
Even way back when I watched this on TV it always felt like a community center play adaptation of Dune.
super original comment bro, I totally didn't see this comment on every other Dune 2000 video trending in the last two years
Alia looking like a mini Palpatine
Her character was evil ike Palps too.
@@DagwoodDogwoggle Not at first. At some point during adolescence or on the verge of adulthood in _Children of Dune,_ she loses her mind to the many ancestral memories and gives the Baron Harkonnen dominance within her to silence them. Funny, now that I think of it, how could a Bene Gesserit female/Reverend Mother meet her paternal ancestors within? Wasn't that the point of breeding a Qwisatz Haderach? But somehow achieving consciousness in the womb changed that. I think one of the twins says the Bene Gesserit should have allowed at least one "abomination" in their line, so descendants whom that happened to could benefit from the experience. Well, some Reverend mothers are probably descended from Ghanima, so if it happens again....
Or it could be one of the many changes the story took from _Dune_ to _Dune Messiah_ to _Children of Dune_ to _God Emperor of Dune._ Like bringing back Duncan Idaho as a Ghola.
I love how Irulan barely restrains from rolling her eyes when Feyd calls Kanly!
Ya know. I kind of love the commitment to the crazy hats in this adaptation.
What the f is this. Why do some people think that it's a better adaptation than Denis Villeneuve's 2024 adaptation? This is ridiculous
Hmmmm, for what it's worth and if you can stop laughing long enough, it's actually more book accurate. Other than that it's...well.....
Because unlike you they have taste
The fans of the latest version of Dune seem to have never seen a movie before.
Alia'
s sarcastic clap should be a gif.
I actually don't think she was being sarcastic at all! She is on her brother's side, always, and she was applauding his victory. And she does not give a tinker's damn if she's the only one applauding, or if others think it's inappropriate.
her slow clap after the kill while everyone else is silently horrified at paul cementing his power grab is the best part of the scene. awesome little touch.
if this series had a bigger budget it would have been one of the greatest things evrer put on screen. Its the only portrayal that stayed true to the books on many levels
I completely agree with this statement. Most people give this mini-series a lot of crap (some of it warranted tbh) but considering the budget and that it was made from a pre-GoT daytime tv channel, they went out of their way to stay loyal to the material. And they should be commended for that.
Wow, that high school went all out with their budget to put on that play! Impressive!
The Home-Ec classes did the costumes...
super original comment bro, I totally didn't see this comment on every other Dune 2000 video trending in the last two years
Lower production values than the David Lynch and Denis Villeneuve films, but much more true and respectful to the books of Frank Herbert. Thank you warmly for uploading this video.
Villeneuve was equally respectful, though not as literal.
I do wish they had kept the changed water of life bit, but I suppose Villeneuve thought there wasn't sufficient time to explain it.
@@Falcrist he was not respectfull from books
@@flayjunior18 Would you like to rephrase that in English?
This must have cost hundreds to make.
Incredible! Just after Feyd's death, you can clearly hear Lynch's score for Dune. :o
I know a lot of a of people who thought that Paul winning this battle because he "shocked" Feyd with the revelation that they were cousins was kind of weak. And honestly, I hate to say it but I kind of agree with them. So I genuinely believe that in the 2024 movie when Paul reveals to Feyd that they're cousins and Feyd's reaction is a very non-plussed "Is that so? Neat" that that's a indirect reference to this moment
for those not aware....the COSTUMES were inspired by Jean Giraud, also known as the great Mobius, the French SCI-FI comicbook artist.
the same guy inspired the look of The Fifth Element.
A lot of his Stuff used to show up in Heavy Metal Magazine.
In that case, it worked in The Fifth Element, but here not so much.
what sad news....he sure stole the show TWICE🤨🤨
w ruby?? are u effing kiddin me??😵😵
After the silly mess of the 1983 movie, most Dune fans regarded this miniseries as a massive improvement. I sure as hell did. The latest movie has spoiled us.
People tell me to watch Dune (1984), but the clips I've watched are ridiculous. This at least is faithful to the book, including the ending about concubines being the true wives of those who must marry for political alliance.
If there's a criticism to be had it's low-budget green screen fights and battles as well as silly looking outfits, like Paul is wearing during the fight. But silly looking outfits by those in the royal entourage is to be expected.
I picked up the book at the Philadelphia airport waiting on my flight to my first overseas duty station on the border in West Germany. I re-read it twice during my 30 month deployment. I did go to the movies to see the David Lynch version; I was disappointed but I did watch it on late night TV again and again. I couldn’t get into these SYFY channels attempt. So excited to see this new two-part version and to give my old copy to my youngest son so he can . understand his old man’s love of the book.
I've seen bits of this but it never did much for me. I know there are those that don't like the 1984 version and, when compared to the book, I can understand why. But I have always loved it. Probably because I watched it as a movie only separate from the book as opposed to an adaptation.
1984 version was simply a much better, more imaginative filmed and far better cast and acted movie.
And nothing will ever measure up to the book.
I agree completely with you, the 1984 version was much better as a stand alone film, this was not a patch on the original. In fact I am going to watch the old version as soon as I finish this.
'84 rules! "Wait for my Brother, Baron!"
Never have compared books to film.
The books were incredible, the original movie did a great job, if not spot on.
Paul vs Feyd fight choreography ranking:
1 - 2024
2 - 2000
3 - 1984
this must be the most expensive cosplay ever
The direction and screenplay are movie-of-the-week. Lighting was produced with a police helicopter, and costume design is half Disney, half Jodorowsky.
Rumour has it that if you dare say jodorowsky's name three times when there is a full moon, his version of Dune shall spring into being causing the entire population of the earth to become addicted to psychotropic drugs heralding the end of the human race.
Jodorowski would applaud your comment. He is alive living in Paris today. He has written books on psycho shamanism. He tome on Dune sparked the story line of many sci Fi TV and movies after his visions.
Ru Paul meets Power Rangers in the sequel to Spaceballs.
This is one of the BEST dune productions ever done. Bought the miniseries on dvd.
I mean there's only 3 right?
Paul and Feyd's fight looks actually pretty good, I wait for the 2023 version
Doesn't equal Sting and the little sister in the movie was DOPE AF!
Sting gave Fyed the psycho look the character deserved
Alia: " Wait for my brother, Baron! " She had a creepy ass voice, no lie. I still hear that shit in my sleep 38 years later lol : )
@@slyph63 Is it me, or did the Baron seem um, really fond of his nephew?
For a 2 foot nuthin pipsquik she was the baddest character in the court!
@@axel4196 yea he did. He's was a rotten old creep
I love that there are getting be more Dune retellings, because it is like Shakespeare, a classic, as Herbert meant it to be. I hope that Villaneuve pays more attention to Feyd. I love Irulan's character and am excited to see how Pugh portrays her.
I don't. She's some overrated round face shorty actress.
Pugh did good. Butler as well as Feyd.
This new Dune film is looking very different from part one
The new Dune series single handedly brought Dune back to life. Idc what you have to say. Facts are facts.
After reading the book first, I love the Dune 2000 book adaptation for the way of telling the story! The costumes may be basic, especially compared to the first high budget Dune film adaptation, but they do the job and give good optical differentiaton. The CGI elements got way better for the follow up films "children of Dune", which take the story to the next genereation and raise cruzial questions of what is deemed the "good" and the "evil" side. The actors played spectecular well in all parts, their motives are well shown, making it easy to feel with all the characters in some ways. It goes way beyond the sterotypical "good" versus "evil" in so many action films, while still using the same mechanisms and a hopeful prosperous ending. For me it has almost biblical proportions and messages - in a good way!
They wanted to go Moebius with the costumes, but it doesn't work like that in real life compared to a concept art, same with fifth element lmao
This what ever you call it was idiotic was dull boring and cant even compared to a BAD high school drama
@@wolfpredator1000 the spacing guild costumes really worked, though. Solid manifestation of Moebius’ work! I love them
The costume designers must have been on a 3 day acid trip to come up with these cloths.
No, early 2000s sci fi TV was supposed to be colorful and bright. It also contrasts to all the desert scenes. Its ment to show the crazyness and oppulence of the empire compared to the fremen.
If you read the books you really appreciate these movies because of the lore is just so great, and everyone is taking a shot at it and we get to technically re read it again :)
Edit: a lot of people seem to miss that paul was insanely stacked when being born, spoilers but if youre here you know :p, he was born by a rogue bene gesserit who disrupted a long plan to birth and groom a male bene gesserit to acess the male memories, but the rogue wanted to give house atreides a male heir, then started training to take a life as soon as he was able to hold a blade, the rogue taught him basic bene gesserit tech' and to top it all of the rogue bene gesserit is the daughter if the main agressor towards the atreides, harkonen, atreides, male bene gesserit spice weilding walking 15 year old weapon. I could just go on man, dude started to become a menace too, heard a prophecy and just ran with it.
Also...that was possible because unknown to the, bene gesserits, Lady Jessica was Baron Harkonen's daughter...so she was a female Harkonen who had a child with a Male Atreides. The opposite of what they planned...they were one generation off on the Quizat Haderach.
And mentat training
Storywise this is more accurate than the 1984 and 2024 movies. But the 2024 movie is more epic to watch.
If Feyd wishes it, he'll meet you with my blade. I WISH IT!.
Thats missing from the new movie 😢
Villeneuve's Dune: better cinematography, better costumes
Harrison's Dune: better story, cathartic ending
Harrisom has the most faithful adaption. Which is a win
@@thecappeningchannel515 Agreed.
I just rewatched the mini series and it so good tragic and sad but good. You can't tell it from that scene, but she is a really good character and grows in good ways.
Huh... This makes Lynch's Dune look like a masterpiece.
This miniseries has its flaws but it also was quite ambitious and was fairly successful. It had a budget of 20 million dollars with a runtime of 4 hours and 25 minutes.
Especially children of Dune is solid in this adaption.
This is pretty thin tea. Kyle McLaughlin is in another league all together.
You're quite right; Alec Newman seems rather indifferent and I especially dislike his formulaic way of portraying Paul as a young boy: "Oh, let's portray him as immature to make him seem younger, and so make him appear as a complete dickhead!" McLachlan wanted the part badly - at least that's what I heard, at any rate he was a Dune fan - and he does bring a certain dedication to the part and his portrayal was much more nuanced.
Costume designer: what this movie about?
PA costume designer : Spice
Costume designer : Say No more
0:59 how I answer when asked to take out the trash.
I don't get the hate this series is getting. It's like everyone was disappointed it wasn't a word-for-word rendition of the 1984 original. They dispensed with the internal dialogues, something that didn't work in the original (it worked great in the novel, but it was a distraction on the screen). They skipped a scene or two from the 1984 version, and added other sorely missed scenes. Yes, it was a low-budget cable production, but it was adequate for the series. Also, there is an orgy scene, and Chani gets topless! What is everyone complaining about? And I liked the costumes, they were great.
The costumes had a distinctly Ancient Egyptian vibe to them. Except for those god-awful hats that look like they were taken from a party at Jake Gatsby's house. I actually like the new series, on HBO. The 1984 was quite good too. I did like the internal dialogue. Was not distracted at all.
Those Guild guys crack me up every time.
They look like super-smurfs, I agree with you.
I know it is cheesy, but I think the last line in the book marks it as one of the greats.
You don't really expect the author to end it on that note, but he does.
When I was a kid, I read junk food books.
But slowly over the years, I have grown into picking and reading ever more quality literature.
Progression from Drizzt Do'urden to the Aubrey Maturin series.
Dune was just one rung in the ladder.
The Bible is on the ladder as well. So is Orson Scott Card, Known Space, Wheel of Time, Star Wars, The Magicians, The Laundry Files, and the Stormlight Archives.
I will find more as I grow.
You mean? "For he is the Kwisatzhaderach!"
The Kingkiller Chronicles are FANTASTIC, but the author got all butthurt over an internet fight with fans that he still hasn't published the third one. Dick. Lol
Loved the first, have yet to see this. I'll check it out if it ever comes across my feed.
Watching this after the new Dune getting into dune for the first time is definitely… something else 😳😳
6:16 those have to be the most boot-thudding steps a barefooted man has ever taken...
The dude who did the costumes deserves an oscar
For as small a budget as they had, they did a great job getting the story across
This scene explains why no one wanted to revisit Dune for the next 20 years.
Why does Fayd have a kite on his back?
I love this fight in the book. As a point of pride, Paul refrains from using the Weirding Way because he wants to be able beat Feyd without it. He doesn't even give in when Feyd cheats. He uses his wit and distracts him by calling him cousin. That moment of confusion is all he needs to win without any supernatural powers.
when director is giving to MUCH artistic FREEDOM to the costume designer....