【Kata Comparison】 Okinawa Shorinryu Karate and Shotokanryu【Tatsuya Naka】
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- Опубликовано: 22 фев 2017
- Naka sensei （JKA) and Zenpo Shimabukuro sensei（International Okinawan Shorin-ryu Seibukan Karate-do Association）
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Wow.... Okinawan styles are not often seen. And when seen, the power is so beautiful. These people should participate in WKF to show what Karate closer the the original is really like.
Man, that Chinto kata was powerful! Makes me want to go practice my Chinto now.
What's also great is when Shimubukuro Sensei calls out the Shotokan and Shorin Ryu named for Naifanchi/Tekki Shodan. Simple gesture, but it shows much respect he has for Naka Sensei.
absolute treat to see masters and grandmasters perform side by side
That stepping in charge attack is very impressive.
Wonderful video!
it so cool! Somehow i got to idea to actual Kata!!! So i get it idea!
Fantastic
Beautiful
I really like the music
Very nice
nice !
I love the Karate idea, People are friendly and smart
中先生の追い突きはスゴい！！
I enjoy observing the differences between Japanese & Okinawan karate systems!
There are no difference between mainland Japan and Okinawa karate systems.
The differences are due to the various schools of karate that exist.
Some were developed in the southern islands of the Japanese archipelago (Okinawa), without foreign influence, while others (like Shôrin Ryû) are greatly based off Chinese kung-fu.
@@mgm6229 : Japanese and Korean Karate both come from Okinawa; however there are differences as Shotokan for example has become more of a sport style. In many cases Karate as also become "watered down", with things being lost.
I Love Seibukan karate Do.
讚👍👍
The very first kata was from Shotokan? Because I've never seen hops and spins like that before in Shorin-ryu. 👀
2:57 for Naihanchi Shodan kata
这种绷劲发力的很硬的形式首先是使对手不敢进攻，怕进攻了会受伤
空手って素晴らしいなぁ。
トップレベルの人はみんなカッコいいなあ。
con todo respeto, ¿porque dicen que son los primeros en hacerlo en el mundo? ("we are the first ones who did it in the world"), Naihanchi shodan es de practica frecuente en shorin ryu.
quizas hay una variación que no pude ver (empecé a practicar karate solo hace un año).
No obstante es impresionante ver una performance tan poderosa , es inspirador.
Saludos!
源流をたどる旅、、ワクワクが止まらない！((o(^∇^)o))
why with each video you upload of 10 minutes there are only 1 ~ 3 minutes of new content?
Because these are only trailers of DVD.
A modern system, thanks
6:53
为什么空手道也有拱手礼？ 还是只有少林流有？ 又会中文的朋友吗
清初時期拱手禮在武者之間除禮儀意義外更有反清復明之意,故清初時發展的武術套路皆加入拱手禮,不少空手道家認為jion(慈恩)這套kata(及ji'in(慈陰) jitte(十手))是在清初時期從中國傳去琉球,被泊手系的空手道流派所吸納,例如片段中的少林流和松濤館。如此這三套拳的開式保留了拱手禮
The shotokan techniques look powerful, the shorin ones are.
2:50 is that a kung fu salute that master Naka is doing?
changantonio no,it is part of the kata
Obviously it is part of the kata, else he would not do it.
Doesn't change my curiosity, as it is so similar to a kung fu salutation.
These sources seem to confirm the relatedness of the salutations:
www.karatebyjesse.com/42-bunkai-to-monks-salutation/
www.historyoffighting.com/art-blog/the-history-of-jion
Karate comes from Kung fu, and considering Okinawa was the first to get the kung fu influence, yes it is a kung fu derived bow/pose.
@@changantonio 'Shorin-Ryu' = 'Shaolin Ryu.' Karate's roots are in Crane Style King Fu.
OSU! 🙇♂️
島袋さんやん笑笑
While this is all great. I resent the fact that this learning is somehow reserved for the higher ranks. Naka is first doing this at 7th dan? While this type of knowledge should be taught from the very early basic courses, to avoid the horrible misconceptions that still dominate many katas in JKA. Why should members all over the world spend 10-15 years on wrong interpretations of their katas? And waste time on useless techniques?
The greatest misconception about Shotokan is that it is a martial art while in reality it is a combat sport. But Funakoshi clearly pointed out in his books that his vision was a sport and workout practice without the dangerous parts that relates to Okinawan Karate as Kendo relates to Kenjutsu. That's the reality! Unfortunately many people don't get this and in addition Shotokan is often advertised in a misleading way. Either because of ignorance or by the simple fact that someone wants to make money out of it - and that would be difficult if it was clearly stated that it is some kind of sport. But don't think that this is unique to Shotokan! Japanese school Karate spoiled much of its okinawan predecessor, too...
Bear in mind the myrida of interpretations of the katas which evolved from the Shuri-te, Naha-te, and Tomari-te 'schools' and the bunkai which have evolved from them. What you are looking are the handing down of conceptual variations and a sharing of thoughts and ideas. There is no one ryu which has all the answers and within the frame of reference of what is known as ShuHaRi, this his journey of discovery beyond what he has already mastered. As Shichi-dan he is in a much better position to appreciate the subtle nuances of techniques from the individuals with whom he interacting. It is a new way of seeing. Realistically, a Shodan is a person whose vision is blinded by the limitations of the ryu-ha and experience.
@Marius, I can see why it's done though. You give lower-ranking students a safety net to play with while higher ranking students get the real secrets. If you think about the older gen masters, that's pretty much what they did as well (that is see their students' characters first)
Nevertheless, JKA's just so wrought with politics that it had the opposite effect! I'm glad Naka sensei is able to learn these things though. Shows a sign of change.
@zzdoc2, It goes back to when they actually fought. When the Chinese brought the concept of "forms" over, they were able to help the Okinawans centralize their fighting knowledge. Thus the Shuri-te, Naha-te, and Tomari-te had different "interpretations" based on what their previous experiences are. I'd imagine the Chinese probably tailored the forms to each of their needs at the time.
most of them have lost the knowledge of the applications or they dont want to show them. Without knowing the intent of the moves, all subtlety is lost, all we can do is guess. what looks like a block could be a lock and throw.
K desorden
Face, seulement à un gros sac de 80 kg, les 4/5 de ces techniques ne tiennent pas!
peut être que c'est pas fait pour ça aussi 😂, en karaté on frappe les points vitaux 😁
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