Since school is such a broad topic, there’s so much we didn’t cover in this video. Leave a comment below on what else you would like us to talk about, I would love to make more “discussion” type videos in this series using your comments 💚
I love your ‘differences’ videos. I’m Irish in Ireland and my boyfriend is American and lives in Indy. We’re always comparing the differences between Ireland and the US 🇮🇪 🇺🇸
Having lived in Ireland for seven years, I feel I can confidently say SATs/ACTs are literally a walk in the park compared to Leaving Cert. The fact that an Irish students entire education can be boiled down to one set of exams has always baffled me. I can't imagine the stress. SATs were actually quite separate from school and you only had to take them if you wanted to go to college. Plus they only covered math and English. (I think the ACTs also have a science section and that's the major difference, but don't quote me on that.) If anything I think Leaving Cert is a bit more like American "final exams" but we had finals every year of high school, the tests themselves were created by the teacher so they were tailored to exactly what you covered in class, and they only covered a year or even a semesters worth of material, so they were still so much easier than Leaving Cert. I do, however, appreciate the great sacrifice Leaving Cert students give every year to bring us great weather.
It’s def more stressful. I didn’t study for the SATs, and passed with flying colours. If you passed 4th grade, you’ll do fine on the SATs. I’ve also taken exams in the English school system, and Incan confirm they were much harder.
@@bobkilla430 no. Your test results are converted into a score. The maximum score is 600. That’s if you get A+ in 8 subjects. The marks for your chosen profession in college are based on 1. The subject, I.e medicine and such have higher mark requirements and 2. The number of people applying for the course. I.e the more demand for the course, the higher the marks you need, so the marks change from year to year.
It's bullshit the amount of importance put on it just to get some dead 9-5 job. They're telling us to be mindlessly studying useless information for 4 hours daily for Junior Cert at 15. It's a joke.
I went into a science / engineering field, so I use all of the honors maths and science I learned for the leaving cert. Most of those in the college course that did not do these fell out within a few weeks of the first year. Leaving cert stress was all on the Irish and German. I studied that bull like mad for that whole year and I can't remember a bit and have never used any. Kinda wish I could speak Irish, but don't have the time to learn it and nobody really speaks it.
Leaving cert truly was one of the most stressful times of my life. More so than college. In a nutshell. You study a minimum of 6 subjects over 2 years and all you hard work comes down to exams at the end of that two years. There is very little continuous assessment or grading averages. All depends on how you do on each exam. You take a 2 or 3 hour exam for each subject (except English which is 2, 2 hour exams) usually with a mix of essay questions and short questions. As Amy said you can take each subject at higher or ordinary level. With a higher level subject you can score a max of 100 points. Ordinary level is a max of 60 points. All the scores are added up from you 6 best subjects and you are given a points total. So if you took 6 higher level subjects and got A1s in each you would get the maximum of 600 points and basically have your pick of colleges. College courses offer places based on points. For example if you apply for Psychology in UCC and there are 200 places. The top 200 scoring applicants would get offered a place. If the 200th person offered a place scored 530 points then they would say you needed a minimum of 530 points to get into that course. Basically your ability to get into college all comes down to those LC exams. No one looks at extra curricular activities or grade point averages throughout secondary school. It all comes down to you ability to learn off information and deal with the pressure of exams.
So true. The stress isn’t even laughable at this point. I know of girls in my year who did not handle that stress well. You have to be a very mentally strong person to not let the stress and expectations from everyone else get in on you. I can safely say I definitely struggled mentally, like many others during this time, worrying about whether or not I’d be good enough in life, if I couldn’t do well in the leaving cert.
In New York State in the early 80s you could receive just a high school diploma after completing the required credits at your School with all passing grades. The diploma could include With honors if you excelled. Additionally there was the state Regents exams that were three hour examinations in specific subject areas. If you scored high enough across all those subjects you would receive a "Regents" diploma. Basically used for college bound students.
How did I just watch a 26 minute video and I didn’t get to see his reaction to finding out that 4th year is a completely optional year where you don’t do regular work at all!?!?
My son did SATs at the same time as doing 4 A levels (he was applying to an US University so needed to have SATs scores). He found them much easier than the UK exams - particularly as so many questions had multiple choice answers.
Ok, old irish guy, here -61. When I started school at 3 and half, i'm sure it was called infants. I don't think there was kindergarten then, but there are places that use the word now. I think infants was co-ed. I remember Mrs Kenna asked me what girl I liked, and I said Mary Callinan. ☺ Rest seems the same ie first class, second class etc. Then first, year, second, 3rd year, but for some reason no fourth year. Then it went 5th and 6th.
In Ireland Playschool starts at age 3yrs it's not compulsory but advised. Then starts Primary School at age 4yrs in Junior Infants, followed by Senior Infants, then 1st to 6th Class by age 12. In Secondary School (High School) you generally do 6 years, in your third year you have a state exam called the Junior Cert and three years later you have the Leaving Cert. Two very stressful exams.
I had so many mental breakdowns during the leaving cert. It wasn’t uncommon to feel suicidal for some people during that time, unfortunately. I actually when I went on French exchange, and with their system being a year less than ours, they were like three weeks away from their “leaving cert” and they were like so chill. Like they could actually afford to have a social life and have us around. It made me so mad that other countries had this thing that we were told and taught was life and death, so easy and that we had to go through this.. anyways yeah lol leaving cert is the biggest pile of shit. ✌️
Hi hi! I did my Leaving Cert in 2006, when I was in primary school we still had the horror story nuns, that started to get phased out/cracked down around 2000-2002. I could write a novel about the terror of nuns. My sister is around your age, I’m glad she got the nice nuns.
We called junior infants and senior infants, wee dotes and big dotes 😄 It was also a mixed boys and girls school too. There are many mixed schools in Ireland.
I love when worlds collide like this, thanks RUclips algorithm! I am familiar with your husband through Trilogy Media, binged through his stuff a couple of years ago and really enjoyed what he is doing on a very different topic. You guys have great chemistry, keep it up.
In Germany the length of the finishing exams depends on the subject: in German you sit in there for 8 hours writing essays, interpreting poems or stuff and answering questions as well as doing grammar stuff. In other subjects you may be in there for 4 hours. It might sound like a lot but a regular schoolday in Germany is about 6 hours long.
@@davidcooley275 I haven’t watched tv in about 5 years. my opinion is mostly based on my friend who moved to america when he was 15 and what i read and see from american kids online. school sports are treated like professional there. full crowds turn up for every game of every sport and a stadium announcer fucking does an individual walkout for each player 😭 my school football team reached the all ireland semi final and there were only about 50 people watching us lmao. and the schooling is miles easier. they get multiple choice questions and they leave school with the same standard of education as a 15/16 year old irish person does.
@@BenCreaven at 16 you can get what's called a ged, basically and seen by employers as a high school degree. Sports are a huge thing in highschools. Even though I played alot of sports in hs I didn't realize it until I came back from my university and I was just in a small town in california. We still had boosters, fundraisers etc. A big highschool in texas and it's on a whole other level.
@@BenCreaven That's one experience though. I was in all AP classes in high school, and while sports and extracurriculars were a big deal, AP especially expected to be the best at not only in class, but also whatever extracurricular they were involved in. Stress level was kind of high at my high school, but that's my experience.
Very stressful exam for teenagers as a parent watching my 5 kids do it stress headaches no sleeping, sick, it’s not worth it putting kids through that there must be an easier way.
This was such a fun video I’m not a huge fan of school but I did enjoy learning how school is in Ireland keep up the great work Amy and I can’t wait to the next video 💚
Y’all are just too cute! I learn so much from your videos while being entertained at the same time. I appreciate all the work you put into these. Go raibh maith agat!❤️🍀
I’m a dual citizen and went to primary in both the states and England. One thing I noticed was my American schooling was always behind compared to the English schools. One thing that was harder for me when I was a tween it was really hard since I was on the birthday cusp. So I was always the youngest. Another thing is I wish American schools did more proper uniforms instead of only being allowed to wear certain colours. The most important difference I think is the hot dinners. We didn’t have to pay for them in England, we got 2-3, and they were proper meals. Going off what y’all said- I think the younger bairns should switch schedules with the teens. It’s easier to get littles up early, and let the teens sleep in. My Ma would always complain to the school district.
Is the Leaving Cert hard? YES! Between study and extra grinds in the evenings, I am happy it's long in my past. Definitely more or less the same experiences in Athlone. I went to an all-boys national/primary school but chose a mixed secondary school for the social aspect. At secondary school, the fourth year wasn't mandatory. It was known as the ''transition year'' where people would do work experience and things like that. We did have a good balance of male and female teachers there in contrast to the national/primary school where there it was about 80/20 (%) female to male teachers. Around the 3rd year, the school came out with the rule that female students were allowed to wear pants. Crazy to think that had to become a rule but there we are. I do have good memories of school in Ireland though and made some great lifelong friends there. I agree with you both that if we went back to school as we are now we'd be more confident but that comes down to now having real-life experience.
As a current LC it's fucking torture, tests in every subject nearly every week, ment to be constantly studying instead I'm crying and things are even more messed up now because of Corona. Oral exams are this weekend and teachers are hunting us down for practice runs. Projects are a mess, and every test and piece of homework completed must be a high standard as it could go towards accredited grades
I am also a current 6th year student, I hope your orals went well, just know that you are not alone in this because I have had many breakdowns. These days whenever I try to focus on something all the other things that I still have to cover from every subject flood into my mind and cause me to not do anything at all. the build up is horrible but just keep thinking about the wonderful changes we’ve been given in the exams (if you are doing the exams now that we have accredited grades) because that’s what is pulling me through this torture hahaha and yes I agree the tests that we have every week are so much pressure now because of accredited grades, it’s all very messy but we just gotta take it one step at a time ❤️
You poor thing. I hope you did ok. Even tho it doesn't seem like it now there is life after the leaving cert. I failed pass maths back in 1984. I walked into the hall sat down, looked at the paper and couldn't understand a word. I got an NG. Oh the stress. Since then I've gone on to do several different courses in Administration, accountancy, IT and have gotten a diploma in materials management. I worked while attending night classes. The good thing about now days is there are so many options available. No one is stuck in the one job for a lifetime. Anyone can retrain and find the job to suit them. I wish you good luck and hope you do well in life.
I did the Leaving Cert in 2007 in the biggest school in Ireland and didn't find it stressful at all. Anyone trying really hard to get certain points for a certain college course would find it stressful but there were lots of people in school with me who didn't care so they weren't as stressed about it. The high earners didn't seem too stressed either, it just seemed to come natural to them.
Awk Ashton, it’s yourself! I’ve seen some of your scam hunter videos. I like you even more now that I know you’re married to an Irish girl. Edit: so delighted was I to see a familiar RUclips face, I didn’t acknowledge Amy. Thanks for posting a very entertaining conversation. All the best to both of you.
Great video! Can’t wait for part two. I have had a chance to compare US (Texas) middle and high school over the years. I was in 7th grade in 1970 when they first allowed pantsuits for girls (no jeans), and in 2021-22 I will begin my 20th year teaching (high school English). Very different dress codes and social differences. It’s been fun to be a part of it all. I love hearing about school in other county and cultures. Thank you! Love you both.
Ireland has two education symptoms (GCSE in the North & Leaving cert. in the South), with those who are good at sport being picked for school teams. there's teachers who live on one side of the border & work in a school on the other side of border. Catholic schools in the North opting out of state schools & Protestant schools in the South opting out of the state schools.
I dont know if it was there when you were in school but now theres a 'Transition Year' between jc and lc cycles. In some schools its mandatory but in most its optional. It's kind of a year out where you focus less on exams and more on learning alternative subjects (like film or another language) and you go on lots of trips and do fun stuff
She sat her leaving cert in 2011, so yes 4th year aka transition year was definitely there, whether she took that year or not, she didnt say. I sat my leaving cert in 2004 and i also did transition year
I went to catholic school in Southern California, kinder through high school (and college!) so I also lived in a uniform most of school. High school was all girls, some sisters taught and there were a few male teachers. When I got to college, I had to buy a bunch of "regular" clothes and literally hadn't had a class with boys all my teen years. My experience is probably more similar to Amy's than typical public school in the US - though across the board yes, school starts early for everyone. Some high school's let you take an extra class in the morning (it might be called "zero period") if you were an overachiever lol. You could also take AP classes ("Advanced Placement"), and then at the end of the year, take an exam and if you scored well, you could get college credit in that subject.
As a leaving cert student currently I need you to please make a video that fully walks through the sheer fucking lunacy that is the leaving cert. I need to know that I'm not insane in thinking that this exam is insane.
I did the Leaving Cert in 1974 with 9 honours subjects and managed to get honours in all of them. Two days later I started doing the Matriculation exam. You could choose your best performance to calculate points for university entrance. That was certainly the most intense exam month of my life. I was a swot in school and had no social life.
In Australia school is Kindly Pre primary Primary school (grade 2 to 6) High school (7 to 12 unless you go to full time tafe in year 10 or 11) Tafe or uni as higher education
I have a friend that lives in Ireland and I was so shocked when she told me that 4th year (sophomore year for me) is optional since it’s a transitional year
I did my Leaving Cert in 1995. I agree, it is without a doubt the most stressful exam ever. And the problem lies in the way it’s presented. 2 years before sitting it, the teachers are piling on the pressure. They make it sound like you will fail at life if you don’t get a good result. This of course is absolute nonsense. I did ok I’m my Leaving and I went to college to study electronics. But I ended up working as an architectural technician. So basically my Leaving Cert didn’t benefit me at all. And I still see it today, so much pressure put on kids when it comes to exams. EDIT: didn’t realise this was an old video. It just popped up on my feed and I assumed it was a new one.
I just did mine in 2020, it was awful cause we didn't even know what was happening, LC is definitely not made for anyone but neurotypucals with strong strong wills.
I think, and am in no way certain because most of my exposure to American schools is through media, that the easiest difference to point out between Leaving Cert and any equivalent US exam, is that it's worth all the marbles. I believe you get credits towards college throughout school, or exams worth your final grade or what have you. That isn't the case here. 100% of your grade comes from your Leaving Cert (with exceptions for things like art/woodwork where that's not really feasible). Your results from the leaving cert would then be out of 600. To get 600 you have to get 100% on your 6 exams. (if you do more than 6 this is taken from your best 6) Most years there are kids in the newspaper who got 600 because it's a rare thing. To get into college you have to get above a certain threshold for different courses, generally. With different subjects being required depending on your career path. As in you might need to have passed higher level biology to get into medical school or what have you. That's really only a barebones explanation mind you, and I probably got something wrong because it's been a while since I was in school
Where I lived, most of the private colleges wanted the SAT test and the state university system asked for the ACT test. In general, the ACT test was designed to measure what you have learned in your schooling that far, and the SAT test was designed more to measure to measure ones facility in verbal facility and math facility, but the SAT was not as focused on learning ability as an IQ test.
I went to a mixed primary school and an all girls secondary school convent so yeah it was like MaLE INtERaCTiON when I got out 💀 Edit: we had to wear a skirt and they also used to check the length to see if it’s below the knee and teachers would physically pull it down if it wasn’t. That was the one thing I 👌 hated when I was there. And this was only last year....
Love watching you both. Amy you remind me of one of my daughters she did her leaving in 2011 went to UCD for music and is a music teacher in Dubai. Shes married now living in Dubai. You both remind me of her and husband. They’d love to see this........”the side fringe” lol great videos 💖💙
I swear to god your uniform is absolutely identical to the one I wore. If it turns out you went to the same school as me that would be amazing, only just discovered your channel 😁
In Germany you start with Kindergarten (which doesn't have anything to do with school). Then you have class 1 to 4 in Primary school from the age 6 to 9. After that you have to decide on which way you will go: in the Gemeinschaftsschule where you go from class 5 to 9 (age 10 to 15) or in the Realschule from class 5 to 10 (age 10 to 16) or Gymnasium from 5 to 12/13 from age 10 to 17/18 (there are two types of that). Depending on the federate state you live in how long you have to go to school changes. For example in Hesse you have to complete class 9 and you don't have to go to school anymore. In Baden-Württemberg (where I live) you have to go to any kind of school from age 6 to 18 except you started with one year of an educational program before 18 you don't have to go to school anymore. tl;dr it's complicated
The difference between SAT, and ACT ACT= it’s a free test for students who can’t afford to take the SAT, also the ACT cannot be used as placement score for college like the SAT can, but it will give the tester understanding of their placements in reading, science and, math, and weather or not they should or shouldn’t pay for more courses in the basics, in college. SAT= it’s not free and costs students around 30-50 dollars, your score on the test can be used to determine which basic classes you’d need to take or not (like extra English, extra math). They’re both placement tests but one is free and the others isn’t. The free one (ACT) is basically a practice test, one that many students in high school take before their (SAT). If you plan on going to college after high school then it would be in the students best school interests to take one or both of the tests. *Also taking the SAT can be used to save college students money because they can skip some of the basic classes in college depending on their score. Which is usually worth the investment, (the $30-50 or so the test costs). *Also they’re pretty much equivalent tests (in difficulty) , usually one isn’t much harder than their other, but it really depends on the tester and what areas they’re stronger in than others.
I took my high school exams 20 years ago now in the UK. Lots of subjects had different levels of exam literally called “higher” or “lower” depending on if the teachers thought you were dim or clever!
I went to a Catholic high school in the US in the 1970s, and was taught by Nuns. The most realistic film depiction of school Nuns was in "The Blues Brothers". I can recall being caught on the back swing of a Nun's hitting another student, who was swearing, with her ruler. We had a dress code, & if girls showed up with skirts revealing their knees, the Sisters would wrap newspapers around their legs for the day. I also had a Sister who taught algebra who could always spot a kid who showed up stoned for class. She'd have them at the blackboard doing algebra if they were high for her class. Nothing cures drug use like being forced to do algebra while high.
kindergarten is part of elementary school and there is actually 2 different ideas about it. One is that kindergarten is an introduction to school and a lot more fun. the other type is more academic and last all day. When I was growing up the first type was used. Now the second type is more prevalent. About the Sat - it is not necessary to graduate. It is supposed to help your placement in college. It supposed has been dumbed down since I took it and another part added. There were 1600 points possible and a great score was 1400 an above
It also shows the differant between Northren Ireland & Ireland Northren Ireland was Play School Primary School P1-P7 in P7 we sat the 11+to find out if we went to the integrated or Secondary School Secondary School Form 1 - Form 6. Then you sat GCSEs Unless you went to a Special Needs School you stayed at the same school from P1-Form 6 & you didn’t sit the 11+ or GCSEs. My school was full of male & female teachers & we had to wear a uniform. School hours was 9:00 AM - 3:00 PM The leaving cert is Cinema to the GCSEs in Northren Ireland. Leaving was great but my last year was like a summer camp I was moved from my Primary School in P6 to a special Needs School I enjoyed my time at school & meet a lot of good people but I wouldn’t go back.
We use to call pre-school by the name nursery school. Elementary school is our primary & our secondary is 7-12 (high school plus some middle school). My dad used to call elementary school by the name grade school. Some people called middle school by the name junior high. We didn’t have a junior high, we just had a a middle school than high school. But in university I knew someone who had both a middle school and junior high & then went to high school.
Fyi: Kindergarten isn’t required in the US. I always knew k-6 as elementary school, 7-8 is jr high and 9-12 is high school. Each state has an age cut off in NY you need to be 5 before dec 1 to enter Kindergarten. So if your b-day is dec 2, you would have to wait another year to start and you would be six. Most public schools in US don’t have uniforms but many do. Girls in 1950 DID where skirts. They wore skirts all. The. Time. Moms always dressed up every day. Your school times make SO MUCH more sense!! Little kids are always up early and HS kids always sleep so much. On long island hs kids get on the bus at 6:30-6:45. They are home by 1:40. I guess the early time is for sports. American school is labeled much better than Irish School.
The school we went to (in Illinois) and most of the schools in our area, it was K * 8th grade, we didn't have a separate "middle school". It was also a catholic school, it was co-ed. I'm in my mid 50s now, I don't remember what our nuns wore at that point. I don't think they wore full habits anymore, but they did wear very conservative clothes and I think they still wore whatever the head covering is called from the habit. Most of our teachers were not nuns though, there were only a couple who were. We did not have uniforms in grade school but we did in our catholic high school.
"Kindergarten"... is "so American"... The word is literally GERMAN, meaning "Children Garden". "Elementary School" goes through either 4th Grade (when you are 10 years-old) or 6th Grade (12 years-old) "Middle School" is usually 5th Grade (11 at the end) - 8th Grade (when most people are 14 at the end) "Junior High School" would mean 7th Grade & 8th Grade ONLY (usually starting at 12 years-old and finishing at 14 years-old) "High School" is usually 9th Grade - 12th Grade (usually 18 when you finish) -There are exceptions. It is possible to have "Senior High" only being "11th Grade & 12th Grade" or 10th-12th Grade, but the norm is 9th Grade through 11th Grade. Some boarding schools, especially in New England will use the British terms "3rd Form, 4th Form, 5th Form, & 6th Form" for 9th Grade -:> 12th Grade Some parts of the country have a cut off of birthdays at: January 1st ...others... September 1st Some parts of the country focus on sports A LOT (!!!!) and so boys, especially, will be held back in their younger years so that they will be OLD for their grade, finishing high school at 19 years-old. Other parts, especially the East Coast, have the January 1st birthday cutoff, so many people will be 17 years-old with they finish high school, because their birthdays are in June->December.
@@AmyMcDonaghGuitar- Yes, it's a American as zucchinis! (a.k.a. "courgettes") I won't bore with you a mostly accurate American history lesson of the massive waves of German immigrants to the USA from the 1820s-1850 and then later in the 1850s - 1880s/'90s and how beer, engineering, canal systems, sausages, farming, slow meet cooking, schools... were heavily influenced by those German immigrants. Suffice it to say, that an impressive percentage of Americans have German ancestry. If you separate the Irish from the English (and why wouldn't you?) the largest percentage of ancestry in the US population is German, over Italians, English, and Irish. (Or at least it was when I first saw that stat about 20 years ago.)
Interesting discussion. During my time in school, those middle years had the public schools changing the setup some. Initially, Elementary was 1st through 5th. 6th through 8th was Jr. High School and 9th through 12th was High school. Then it changed. Jr High became Middle school and was 6th through 9th. High school or Sr. High school was 10th through 12th. However, I went to a Catholic Primary and Highschool. The Primary was from 3rd to 8th(I went to public elementary school for a while before I went to Catholic Primary school). And there was mandatory uniforms. The girls wore a white blouse, with blue and black plaid skirt. Boys wore white shirt and black or dark blue pants, that were NOT jeans. High school had no uniforms, but jeans and t shirts were not allowed. My Freshman year, my highschool was boys only. There were also two girls schools. My sophomore year we went co-ed, as the girls' schools closed. There were nuns and priests teaching, as well as lay teachers. The nuns were a mix of pre Vatican II and post Vatican II, as far as habits....mostly based on age.
Suburban New York Catholic school veteran here. It gave me a life long hatred of wearing ties. It was the early 90s so at least the nuns and teachers couldn’t throw you a beating like in my parents day.
I was 16 when i done my leaving cert, which was young but i never let it bother me i would see people get stressed out about and could never understand why they would let it stress them, and secondary school was 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th there was no 6th
Ok so I had it totally different names in Ireland, we went from playschool right into primary school, which is p1, p2… and so on until p7 and after that was kind of like middle school and high school combined so it was 7 years and it stared as 1st grade, 2nd grade, 3rd grade and so in until the big exam and you went to university
I always thought that the irish schools were similar to us mainland England peeps, sooo play school, then primary school reception class, then yr1,2, &3, middle school yr 4 to 7, then high school yr 8 -11
KatG ESMT Why would the republic of ireland have a similar to the UK 100 years after gaining independence from the UK.What do you think he just kept the same education system for 100 years without changing it to fit our needs.In fact the founding fathers made a point of making the education system different from the british one.Mainland england do you have any idea how offensive that is ireland is not a little island of your coast .
SATs were not technically an exam to study for as there is no passing or failing. But there are exam prep books & courses (outside of regular school) that more motivated students might utilize.
Leaving was absolute hell! Mountains of homework and only half of my classes were honours. English, history and maths gave out mountains of homework. Especially English, we hated her with a passion!
One thing I can say is for the Junior cert and the Leaving cert, the whole three years up to it ispreparing you for the exams. In the USA there are tests periodically throughout the year and the homework is also marked. SO.... the periodic tests and homework are added up or averaged up to be a portion of your final mark and the final exam at the end of the year is added to the homework and periodic tests. BUT.. in Ireland you work and stuy constantly, but there are no exams or test that are put on your final marks that add up to points. Now the Junior and Leaving exams are a nightmare. The student will go in and have say two papers or you could call them exams for just one subject, say English. Each English paper or exam could be up to three hours long. You write and write as quickly as you can to be able to finish. Say in English during those years you may have studied a Shakespeare play and you must know everything and write you own educated thoughts on it. Write a big long essay and answer detailed questions as well. Your hands ache terrible. They may have two subjects done in a day. Say 3hours for English and the afternoon another two or three hours for another subject like Maths. Every subject is like that. You can't just answer a question correctly with all information needed on the paper. That is NOT GOOD enough. You have to expound on it. Like Geography is known to be a very difficult exam. If you just answer correctly you will be failed. You must write and write and expound on it. Be very long wided with much information and woth all exams, make sure your handwriting is perfectly legible and that your grammer and spelling and punctuation has to be perfect, or points are taken from you. The art exam is different, as they have you do these pieces of art, oe would have to be 3d, another a painting. You have to do loads of art that is all mounted on big sheets to see your creative thought progression through drawing for each piece. Not just one big sheet of art and drawing cut out and pasted or mounted on the big sheets. You do this for all your art. Art to back up the final piece. You do this even for your 3d, usually has to be some kind of sculpture. And of course the final piece. ÀND on the fay of exams you must sit snd do life drawings. For art, the sheer amount of work is crazy! Pluss you have to do the writtenexam for art. Such as art history. These exams ALONE count for your mark. Nothing you did all year gets added in. And examiners you don't know come in whole you do your exams. It is not your teachers. Every subject, which are about nine, your exams could be two big exams or papers, sometime 3 and each could be two to three or more hours long. And the thing that makes this so nerve racking is... all the marks you get adds up to points, and the amount of points is what determines what University that will accept you! They offer you places. In the USA you can aproach one or more to see which will accept you. Now if you aren't well, if you are sick with the flue, get appendicitis or have not slept because you have studied too much, and you are in terrible form, and if ye are sick and do poorly or God forbid, you miss an exam, you cannot make it up. All your mark depends on the exams. There is nothing the the three years up to it can be added to your mark. If you have done GREAT WORK all the years and your teacher loves you, you do all your homework( in the USA all this would be added to the final mark) BUT in Ireland, none of all that work is couted in the exam score. ONLY the exam given at the Juniour and Leaving exams counted into your points. So if you're sick, or tired, break a leg and can't be there or you miss it for any reason or do poorly because of illness, you fail. And all the points together don't add up to what you need to get into the course you want then you must do the whole last year over again and retake the exams. How many students do you think would feel good about going back to school and be in the class that was always below you. All your friends have gone on to University. So many students will retake it at a different school. Now say, if you want to do physiotherapy, the points for that course particularly are very very high! The same with medicine, or computer science. Now they are not high because of difficulty, but because of the popularity or the course majour you want. If it is a popular course, many students will be trying to get in and there are only so many placements. So depending on popularity determines the amount of points you need. If you don't get enough pioints, then, there you go back at secondary school and do the leaving cert AGAIN. Most students would have had their Grad, they call it. It is a formal dance and dinner, the equivalent to the Prom in America but alittle more toit, such as the dinner. It is orgaised by students and is a celebration of finally beiing grown and leaving school for University or to do an apprenticeship, or get a job, do farming. But usually students must go on to University to do faming. There is a lot to learn and a lot of work and even science to modern day farming. As you can see, the Junióand Leaving Certificates are very difficult. It used to be that many would take the Junior certificate and leave school then to go on to work or work at faily farm or whereever. But nearl all student complete school straight to the Leaving certificate. At one time it was mostly the girls that wet on to the leavig because the young lads had to workto help support the family. I can compare the American school system to the Irish. Because I am American and went through the school system till graduation and on to 3rd level. I moved to Ireland 32 years ago and raised our five children here. My eldest child was 20 years older than our youngest. Our youngest did her Leaving cert in 2020. Unfortunately because of covid, after all the years of studying for her Leaving cert, her year was the first to miss the Leaving exam because we went into lock down.. Which was to all the students a let down. Because you get to prove to yourself, and to your teachers how well you can do, because they try to do their best in the exams. They didn't have a chance. About three months after what would have been their Leaving exams, the government decided that the teachers should guess their exam scores, which turned out disastrous for the students. Vindictive teachers and grumpy teachers could just give them a low mark because they wanted to. I don't think one student that I know got the points they thought they'd be abe to do. All of then knew it was the exams that counted. None ever thought their teachers would end up being able to guess what a mark they would've gotten from something that never happened. That was a stupid idea. Many students have fallen into depression The marks came to late for most to get ready and have accommodation or even a school offering them a place. And they had to defer and stayed home and didn't go to University. Many as I said have gone into depression. They never had their grad, their exams, said goodbye to friends or gone on to 3rd level school with friends. They couldn't even see their friends for all the lock down. Some young Irish kids committed suicide or attempted. It was just so messed up for them. And at a time when they were excited about spreading their wings to fly. If you know Jesus as your Lord and Saviour, please pray for these kids and for ALL those that have gone deep into depression becauseof covid. The spirit of heaviness or depression has come upon many. We must pray. The best thing to do when depressed is sing, sing praise songs to God, , praise Him and dance. The spirits of heaviness the Bible says is a dark demonic spirit. It can't stand songs and praises. If you feel depression, sing out loud to God. God bless you all and thank you. Oh, praying is talking to God. He wants to hear from you!✝️🙏🏼🕊☘
Or instead of praying why not just wish for a miracle to come often while you are depressed? It will manifest eventually, and time helps numb you until you are ready to heal the trauma yourself.
@@ikawba00 @Angelic Kiss Hi, thank you for your comment. The reason I pray is...I, and all who believes in Almighty God and who calls on His name, the name of Jesus, are now His children and are clothed in the righteousness of Christ. We receive Christ's righteousness by His grace, not by any works or good deeds. His Holy Spirits lives in us Christians. The Holy Spirit, the Third person of the Trinity, (God), in us now intercedes for us. Brings our prayers straight to heaven, to God. That is the best way to talk to God. When we ask for something, when we are in need or suffering, or are being taught by God. It is our communication to God. There is NOTHING BETTER THAN PRAYER. For you are talking to the Creator, the sourse of all good things. He is in all, and through all, and all things are held together by Him. So Jesus is the One I talk to which is prayer. Why should I Wish for a miracle? Wish to whom? God is the Creator, the One who does miracles. I hope I answered your question and made it clear. You should believe in Jesus as yourlife and Saviour and receive His free gift of salvation. You see, you are set free and made new. What an amazing gift to receive. He took your place on the cross, everyones place and paid the penalty for all our wrong doings, which are called sin. By paying your pennalty, He purchased your life. If you want to receive His free gift of life, life everlasting, to be reborn spiritually, you must believe in Him as God your Saviour, that He died for your sins, that He rose again from the dead on the third day, and that conquering death. He is the judge of the living and the dead. He is the one who sends Satan, fallen angels & demons and those dead in their sin to hell and the Lake of fire for eternity. And He is the One who puts your name in the Lambs Book of Life in Heaven, those are all who have received His salvation.. He is the One who sends us to glory to live with Him for eternity. You see He desires that not one person parishes in the Lake of Fire. That is why He suffered the penalty of suffering and death owed to you and I, every person. Because all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. Meaning, all have done wrong doings, even if it's just lying. We inherited the desire to sin. Sin cannot live in heaven, cannot be in God's presence. And the penalty is death. So Jesus took our place and our sin was crucified with Jesus on the cross. He litterly became all sin for us, and it was destroyed on the cross, just so, when we believe in Jesus, repent, ( turn from sin ), believe He rose again, His righteousness is placed on us. And we become spiritually Born again of the Holy Spirit and sealed by the Holy Spirit till the day of redemption, till we go to be with God. When we are resurrected and go to glory to with Jesus forever. We are His Bride forever and heirs with Him to throne in heaven. THAT is how much He LOVES US!! PRAISE THE LORD Jesus!! John 3:16-21 16“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. 17For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but so that the world might be saved through Him. 18The one who believes in Him is not judged; the one who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God. 19And this is the judgment, that the Light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the Light; for their deeds were evil. 20For everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come to the Light, so that his deeds will not be exposed. 21But the one who practices the truth comes to the Light, so that his deeds will be revealed [f]as having been performed in God.”
So, a lot of schools will have you do the ACTs or SATs in your junior year, or at least start there. Or, at least they used to. In my case, I also took the ACTs. I was most pissed off when I got into college and found out that if I had gotten one more point on the exams, then I could have gotten a full scholarship with all fees and tuition paid - and I would have been allowed to take the exams more than once. But by then, it was too late to re-take the exams once I was in college.
Noooooo, not 5:00 AM. More like 8:15 and earlier as you go through the levels. When I was in high school, we started at 7:05. We did end somewhere in the 2o’clock hour, sometimes 3:00.
about the female teachers thing i feel like that’s probably more of a girls school thing. in primary school i had almost all female teachers but secondary school i went to 2 schools and it was probably a 65:35 split female to male in both
Yeah i agree I was in both an all girls school and a mixed school. In the girls there was only like 5 max and in the mixed it's pretty much 50:50. Theres also way more male teachers in secondary than primary
I came to Virginia in 93 when I was 9 from New York. New York school is a little different since Virginia school, it’s just culture that changed a bit from urban to country. Also Virginia is a Bible Belt state and everyone here in Virginia is different as far as culture and lifestyle. A New York school I went to was called P. S. 85 Virginia school I went in is called Fairfield Elementary
Since school is such a broad topic, there’s so much we didn’t cover in this video. Leave a comment below on what else you would like us to talk about, I would love to make more “discussion” type videos in this series using your comments 💚
Yes!!! Do more videos of school!
Do part twoooooo plssss
Am from mayo 😊 and have American cousins
I would be interested to hear the type of lunch at school
I love your ‘differences’ videos. I’m Irish in Ireland and my boyfriend is American and lives in Indy. We’re always comparing the differences between Ireland and the US 🇮🇪 🇺🇸
The leaving cert is not an exam. It's a shared cultural trauma that lasts years.
Agreed. Still have nightmares about my Leaving Cert 40 years later. 😂
Just had a nightmare about it last night 😱
@@magsboyle1321So does my husband
I've heard so many cousins in Ireland say that. LOL
"Father Ted is not British"! BRILLIANT
Ashtons laugh too!!!
Having lived in Ireland for seven years, I feel I can confidently say SATs/ACTs are literally a walk in the park compared to Leaving Cert. The fact that an Irish students entire education can be boiled down to one set of exams has always baffled me. I can't imagine the stress. SATs were actually quite separate from school and you only had to take them if you wanted to go to college. Plus they only covered math and English. (I think the ACTs also have a science section and that's the major difference, but don't quote me on that.) If anything I think Leaving Cert is a bit more like American "final exams" but we had finals every year of high school, the tests themselves were created by the teacher so they were tailored to exactly what you covered in class, and they only covered a year or even a semesters worth of material, so they were still so much easier than Leaving Cert. I do, however, appreciate the great sacrifice Leaving Cert students give every year to bring us great weather.
Can someone retake their Leaving Cert if they test poorly the first time?
@@spikeybunny6577 yes they can, but they need to wait until the following years graduating class is sitting theirs the next June.
It’s def more stressful. I didn’t study for the SATs, and passed with flying colours. If you passed 4th grade, you’ll do fine on the SATs.
I’ve also taken exams in the English school system, and Incan confirm they were much harder.
If you pass do you automatically get to go to a college?
@@bobkilla430 no. Your test results are converted into a score. The maximum score is 600. That’s if you get A+ in 8 subjects. The marks for your chosen profession in college are based on 1. The subject, I.e medicine and such have higher mark requirements and 2. The number of people applying for the course. I.e the more demand for the course, the higher the marks you need, so the marks change from year to year.
I've lectured maths for 12 years and I'm still terrified of the higher leaving cert maths exam. That thing is unnatural.
It's bullshit the amount of importance put on it just to get some dead 9-5 job. They're telling us to be mindlessly studying useless information for 4 hours daily for Junior Cert at 15. It's a joke.
Its really not that bad but yes its kinda badly thought out
I went into a science / engineering field, so I use all of the honors maths and science I learned for the leaving cert. Most of those in the college course that did not do these fell out within a few weeks of the first year.
Leaving cert stress was all on the Irish and German. I studied that bull like mad for that whole year and I can't remember a bit and have never used any.
Kinda wish I could speak Irish, but don't have the time to learn it and nobody really speaks it.
@@Figures-us9wt i loved ot and actually use a lot of the info from junior cert since and its not like JC does anything
@@chargestone96 yeah, it's painfully demanding/rigorous, but (from an academics point of view) it's not a bad learning system!
Leaving cert truly was one of the most stressful times of my life. More so than college. In a nutshell. You study a minimum of 6 subjects over 2 years and all you hard work comes down to exams at the end of that two years. There is very little continuous assessment or grading averages. All depends on how you do on each exam. You take a 2 or 3 hour exam for each subject (except English which is 2, 2 hour exams) usually with a mix of essay questions and short questions. As Amy said you can take each subject at higher or ordinary level. With a higher level subject you can score a max of 100 points. Ordinary level is a max of 60 points. All the scores are added up from you 6 best subjects and you are given a points total. So if you took 6 higher level subjects and got A1s in each you would get the maximum of 600 points and basically have your pick of colleges.
College courses offer places based on points. For example if you apply for Psychology in UCC and there are 200 places. The top 200 scoring applicants would get offered a place. If the 200th person offered a place scored 530 points then they would say you needed a minimum of 530 points to get into that course. Basically your ability to get into college all comes down to those LC exams. No one looks at extra curricular activities or grade point averages throughout secondary school. It all comes down to you ability to learn off information and deal with the pressure of exams.
So true. The stress isn’t even laughable at this point. I know of girls in my year who did not handle that stress well. You have to be a very mentally strong person to not let the stress and expectations from everyone else get in on you. I can safely say I definitely struggled mentally, like many others during this time, worrying about whether or not I’d be good enough in life, if I couldn’t do well in the leaving cert.
So is the leaving cert like the British GCSE's?
@@kittyowlblu No, it's the equivalent of A levels. The junior cert was like the GCSE's.
I am 55. To this day if I am stressed I have a dream that I am doing the leaving cert maths exam.
In New York State in the early 80s you could receive just a high school diploma after completing the required credits at your School with all passing grades. The diploma could include With honors if you excelled. Additionally there was the state Regents exams that were three hour examinations in specific subject areas. If you scored high enough across all those subjects you would receive a "Regents" diploma. Basically used for college bound students.
How did I just watch a 26 minute video and I didn’t get to see his reaction to finding out that 4th year is a completely optional year where you don’t do regular work at all!?!?
4th year didn't exist when I was in secondary school.
The Leaving cert is the worst exam you'll ever sit in your life, it's such a stressful time
leaving cert literally the most stressful thing i've done and I didn't do it cuz of covid lol
Leaving cert - there is nothing more stressful. 7 subjects, a two or two and a half hour paper on each subject, absolute nightmare!
Amy, this video is class and absolutely hilarious 😂 uniforms were literally my least favourite part about all part of schools 😂
My son did SATs at the same time as doing 4 A levels (he was applying to an US University so needed to have SATs scores). He found them much easier than the UK exams - particularly as so many questions had multiple choice answers.
Ok, old irish guy, here -61. When I started school at 3 and half, i'm sure it was called infants. I don't think there was kindergarten then, but there are places that use the word now. I think infants was co-ed. I remember Mrs Kenna asked me what girl I liked, and I said Mary Callinan. ☺ Rest seems the same ie first class, second class etc. Then first, year, second, 3rd year, but for some reason no fourth year. Then it went 5th and 6th.
Correct, it was called Junior infants and senior infants.
Suprisingly I remember some of that. (54yrs) I have bad short term memory due to an illness.
@@gerardflynn7382 Gawd, yeh. Junior infants and senior infants.
In Ireland Playschool starts at age 3yrs it's not compulsory but advised. Then starts Primary School at age 4yrs in Junior Infants, followed by Senior Infants, then 1st to 6th Class by age 12. In Secondary School (High School) you generally do 6 years, in your third year you have a state exam called the Junior Cert and three years later you have the Leaving Cert. Two very stressful exams.
Was there playschool in the 1960's?
I had so many mental breakdowns during the leaving cert. It wasn’t uncommon to feel suicidal for some people during that time, unfortunately. I actually when I went on French exchange, and with their system being a year less than ours, they were like three weeks away from their “leaving cert” and they were like so chill. Like they could actually afford to have a social life and have us around. It made me so mad that other countries had this thing that we were told and taught was life and death, so easy and that we had to go through this.. anyways yeah lol leaving cert is the biggest pile of shit. ✌️
If you're doing a St. Patrick's Day episode. Don't forget to add that it's Paddy and not Patty!
@6.02 i was baffled until the 5 year addition was shouted out!! Love the interactions and videos guys,keep them coming 🙂
This is extremely well done Thank you for your classy comments on the sisters Not the usual trendy” nun bashing”
Hi hi! I did my Leaving Cert in 2006, when I was in primary school we still had the horror story nuns, that started to get phased out/cracked down around 2000-2002. I could write a novel about the terror of nuns. My sister is around your age, I’m glad she got the nice nuns.
They were an absolute nightmare.
Did my leaving cert in 1987.
YOU SHOULD DO A VIDEO WHERE YOU BOTH DO EACH OTHERS EXAM.
We called junior infants and senior infants, wee dotes and big dotes 😄 It was also a mixed boys and girls school too. There are many mixed schools in Ireland.
My husband had Low Babies and High Babies. Aways cracks me up. 😂😂
It's strange how now in Ireland I've never heard the word "Play school" Since we always call it "Early start"
*Kids 10th Birthday
Adults: leaving cert now in 8 years!
I spent 13 years in all girl schools, we had 1 male teacher towards the end. Poor guy. Then was the only girl in my college class 😬. (1981)
I love when worlds collide like this, thanks RUclips algorithm! I am familiar with your husband through Trilogy Media, binged through his stuff a couple of years ago and really enjoyed what he is doing on a very different topic. You guys have great chemistry, keep it up.
In Germany the length of the finishing exams depends on the subject: in German you sit in there for 8 hours writing essays, interpreting poems or stuff and answering questions as well as doing grammar stuff. In other subjects you may be in there for 4 hours. It might sound like a lot but a regular schoolday in Germany is about 6 hours long.
I think that’s better though too, with the leaving cert you can know literally everything but still do badly if you run out of time/are a slow writer.
i feel like american school is more focused on the social aspect, sports etc.
irish schooling is just focused on the leaving cert full stop
You watch to much American tv...
@@davidcooley275 I haven’t watched tv in about 5 years. my opinion is mostly based on my friend who moved to america when he was 15 and what i read and see from american kids online.
school sports are treated like professional there. full crowds turn up for every game of every sport and a stadium announcer fucking does an individual walkout for each player 😭 my school football team reached the all ireland semi final and there were only about 50 people watching us lmao.
and the schooling is miles easier. they get multiple choice questions and they leave school with the same standard of education as a 15/16 year old irish person does.
@@BenCreaven at 16 you can get what's called a ged, basically and seen by employers as a high school degree. Sports are a huge thing in highschools. Even though I played alot of sports in hs I didn't realize it until I came back from my university and I was just in a small town in california. We still had boosters, fundraisers etc. A big highschool in texas and it's on a whole other level.
@@BenCreaven That's one experience though. I was in all AP classes in high school, and while sports and extracurriculars were a big deal, AP especially expected to be the best at not only in class, but also whatever extracurricular they were involved in. Stress level was kind of high at my high school, but that's my experience.
@@bobkilla430 yo where you from?
Very stressful exam for teenagers as a parent watching my 5 kids do it stress headaches no sleeping, sick, it’s not worth it putting kids through that there must be an easier way.
This was such a fun video I’m not a huge fan of school but I did enjoy learning how school is in Ireland keep up the great work Amy and I can’t wait to the next video 💚
Thanks so much Brady! 💚
@@AmyMcDonaghGuitar np Amy 💚
How did u get that emoji?
I'm a 6th year right now and I study 1.5 - 2.5 hours a night and six hours on a Saturday, homework excluded lol
Best of luck Sally! ❤️
Y’all are just too cute! I learn so much from your videos while being entertained at the same time. I appreciate all the work you put into these. Go raibh maith agat!❤️🍀
There is also foundation level lol I did that for Irish and the tester actually mimed some of the answers for the oral test lol
Elementary for me was K-6th, Jr High 7-9th, high school 10-12th. But that district (LAUSD) has changed that years ago.
I always wondered about the American system. As a teacher in Ireland it is interesting to me. Thanks folks.
I’m a dual citizen and went to primary in both the states and England. One thing I noticed was my American schooling was always behind compared to the English schools. One thing that was harder for me when I was a tween it was really hard since I was on the birthday cusp. So I was always the youngest.
Another thing is I wish American schools did more proper uniforms instead of only being allowed to wear certain colours.
The most important difference I think is the hot dinners. We didn’t have to pay for them in England, we got 2-3, and they were proper meals.
Going off what y’all said- I think the younger bairns should switch schedules with the teens. It’s easier to get littles up early, and let the teens sleep in. My Ma would always complain to the school district.
Some school districts also split high school into two parts, with 9 and 10 in one school (a mid-high) versus 11 and 12 in another (high school).
Is the Leaving Cert hard? YES! Between study and extra grinds in the evenings, I am happy it's long in my past. Definitely more or less the same experiences in Athlone. I went to an all-boys national/primary school but chose a mixed secondary school for the social aspect. At secondary school, the fourth year wasn't mandatory. It was known as the ''transition year'' where people would do work experience and things like that. We did have a good balance of male and female teachers there in contrast to the national/primary school where there it was about 80/20 (%) female to male teachers. Around the 3rd year, the school came out with the rule that female students were allowed to wear pants. Crazy to think that had to become a rule but there we are. I do have good memories of school in Ireland though and made some great lifelong friends there. I agree with you both that if we went back to school as we are now we'd be more confident but that comes down to now having real-life experience.
You guys are brilliant. I love your chemistry. Guím sonas oraibh go deo
As a current LC it's fucking torture, tests in every subject nearly every week, ment to be constantly studying instead I'm crying and things are even more messed up now because of Corona. Oral exams are this weekend and teachers are hunting us down for practice runs. Projects are a mess, and every test and piece of homework completed must be a high standard as it could go towards accredited grades
I am also a current 6th year student, I hope your orals went well, just know that you are not alone in this because I have had many breakdowns. These days whenever I try to focus on something all the other things that I still have to cover from every subject flood into my mind and cause me to not do anything at all. the build up is horrible but just keep thinking about the wonderful changes we’ve been given in the exams (if you are doing the exams now that we have accredited grades) because that’s what is pulling me through this torture hahaha and yes I agree the tests that we have every week are so much pressure now because of accredited grades, it’s all very messy but we just gotta take it one step at a time ❤️
You poor thing. I hope you did ok. Even tho it doesn't seem like it now there is life after the leaving cert. I failed pass maths back in 1984. I walked into the hall sat down, looked at the paper and couldn't understand a word. I got an NG. Oh the stress. Since then I've gone on to do several different courses in Administration, accountancy, IT and have gotten a diploma in materials management. I worked while attending night classes. The good thing about now days is there are so many options available. No one is stuck in the one job for a lifetime. Anyone can retrain and find the job to suit them. I wish you good luck and hope you do well in life.
I did the Leaving Cert in 2007 in the biggest school in Ireland and didn't find it stressful at all. Anyone trying really hard to get certain points for a certain college course would find it stressful but there were lots of people in school with me who didn't care so they weren't as stressed about it. The high earners didn't seem too stressed either, it just seemed to come natural to them.
Something Amy said made me think of another thing that’s different between Irish and American: Fringe. We call them bangs. lol
You need to do a full explanation of the Leaving Cert!
You guys are the loveliest couple ever! You videos are a bliss!
Great stuff. The American guy is goofy but charming. Good chemistry between the two of you.
Part 2 please ! ❤️
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Awk Ashton, it’s yourself! I’ve seen some of your scam hunter videos. I like you even more now that I know you’re married to an Irish girl.
Edit: so delighted was I to see a familiar RUclips face, I didn’t acknowledge Amy. Thanks for posting a very entertaining conversation. All the best to both of you.
Great video! Can’t wait for part two. I have had a chance to compare US (Texas) middle and high school over the years. I was in 7th grade in 1970 when they first allowed pantsuits for girls (no jeans), and in 2021-22 I will begin my 20th year teaching (high school English). Very different dress codes and social differences. It’s been fun to be a part of it all. I love hearing about school in other county and cultures. Thank you! Love you both.
Ireland has two education symptoms (GCSE in the North & Leaving cert. in the South), with those who are good at sport being picked for school teams. there's teachers who live on one side of the border & work in a school on the other side of border. Catholic schools in the North opting out of state schools & Protestant schools in the South opting out of the state schools.
If you are doing a part 2 and talking about the Leaving cert you got to mention the mocks. Love the video!
Yes thank you!
I dont know if it was there when you were in school but now theres a 'Transition Year' between jc and lc cycles. In some schools its mandatory but in most its optional. It's kind of a year out where you focus less on exams and more on learning alternative subjects (like film or another language) and you go on lots of trips and do fun stuff
She sat her leaving cert in 2011, so yes 4th year aka transition year was definitely there, whether she took that year or not, she didnt say. I sat my leaving cert in 2004 and i also did transition year
Not every school offers TY though and there are limited places unfortunately
I went to catholic school in Southern California, kinder through high school (and college!) so I also lived in a uniform most of school. High school was all girls, some sisters taught and there were a few male teachers. When I got to college, I had to buy a bunch of "regular" clothes and literally hadn't had a class with boys all my teen years. My experience is probably more similar to Amy's than typical public school in the US - though across the board yes, school starts early for everyone. Some high school's let you take an extra class in the morning (it might be called "zero period") if you were an overachiever lol. You could also take AP classes ("Advanced Placement"), and then at the end of the year, take an exam and if you scored well, you could get college credit in that subject.
As a leaving cert student currently I need you to please make a video that fully walks through the sheer fucking lunacy that is the leaving cert. I need to know that I'm not insane in thinking that this exam is insane.
I did my leaving cert 41 years ago. It was lunacy then as well. Best of luck. I hope you sail through it.
@@Robbie63 Well, with the year that's in it I'm not even sure if the results are even gonna mean anything but hey-ho.
Best of luck with your exams Stephen, you can do it ❤️
I did the Leaving Cert in 1974 with 9 honours subjects and managed to get honours in all of them. Two days later I started doing the Matriculation exam. You could choose your best performance to calculate points for university entrance. That was certainly the most intense exam month of my life. I was a swot in school and had no social life.
In Australia school is
Kindly
Pre primary
Primary school (grade 2 to 6)
High school (7 to 12 unless you go to full time tafe in year 10 or 11)
Tafe or uni as higher education
Low babies and high babies. I'm an 80's baby. That's what we called it.
I have a friend that lives in Ireland and I was so shocked when she told me that 4th year (sophomore year for me) is optional since it’s a transitional year
I did my Leaving Cert in 1995. I agree, it is without a doubt the most stressful exam ever. And the problem lies in the way it’s presented. 2 years before sitting it, the teachers are piling on the pressure. They make it sound like you will fail at life if you don’t get a good result. This of course is absolute nonsense. I did ok I’m my Leaving and I went to college to study electronics. But I ended up working as an architectural technician. So basically my Leaving Cert didn’t benefit me at all. And I still see it today, so much pressure put on kids when it comes to exams.
EDIT: didn’t realise this was an old video. It just popped up on my feed and I assumed it was a new one.
I just did mine in 2020, it was awful cause we didn't even know what was happening, LC is definitely not made for anyone but neurotypucals with strong strong wills.
I think, and am in no way certain because most of my exposure to American schools is through media, that the easiest difference to point out between Leaving Cert and any equivalent US exam, is that it's worth all the marbles. I believe you get credits towards college throughout school, or exams worth your final grade or what have you. That isn't the case here. 100% of your grade comes from your Leaving Cert (with exceptions for things like art/woodwork where that's not really feasible).
Your results from the leaving cert would then be out of 600. To get 600 you have to get 100% on your 6 exams. (if you do more than 6 this is taken from your best 6) Most years there are kids in the newspaper who got 600 because it's a rare thing. To get into college you have to get above a certain threshold for different courses, generally. With different subjects being required depending on your career path. As in you might need to have passed higher level biology to get into medical school or what have you.
That's really only a barebones explanation mind you, and I probably got something wrong because it's been a while since I was in school
Where I lived, most of the private colleges wanted the SAT test and the state university system asked for the ACT test. In general, the ACT test was designed to measure what you have learned in your schooling that far, and the SAT test was designed more to measure to measure ones facility in verbal facility and math facility, but the SAT was not as focused on learning ability as an IQ test.
Great craic! Americans are much different... I love watching you two
I went to a mixed primary school and an all girls secondary school convent so yeah it was like MaLE INtERaCTiON when I got out 💀
Edit: we had to wear a skirt and they also used to check the length to see if it’s below the knee and teachers would physically pull it down if it wasn’t. That was the one thing I 👌 hated when I was there. And this was only last year....
Love watching you both. Amy you remind me of one of my daughters she did her leaving in 2011 went to UCD for music and is a music teacher in Dubai. Shes married now living in Dubai. You both remind me of her and husband. They’d love to see this........”the side fringe” lol great videos 💖💙
I swear to god your uniform is absolutely identical to the one I wore. If it turns out you went to the same school as me that would be amazing, only just discovered your channel 😁
Especially at the beginning. When you were talking aboutyour Irish experience it stopped.
In Germany you start with Kindergarten (which doesn't have anything to do with school). Then you have class 1 to 4 in Primary school from the age 6 to 9. After that you have to decide on which way you will go: in the Gemeinschaftsschule where you go from class 5 to 9 (age 10 to 15) or in the Realschule from class 5 to 10 (age 10 to 16) or Gymnasium from 5 to 12/13 from age 10 to 17/18 (there are two types of that). Depending on the federate state you live in how long you have to go to school changes. For example in Hesse you have to complete class 9 and you don't have to go to school anymore. In Baden-Württemberg (where I live) you have to go to any kind of school from age 6 to 18 except you started with one year of an educational program before 18 you don't have to go to school anymore.
tl;dr it's complicated
4th year is optional depending on schools Ireland too
The difference between SAT, and ACT
ACT= it’s a free test for students who can’t afford to take the SAT, also the ACT cannot be used as placement score for college like the SAT can, but it will give the tester understanding of their placements in reading, science and, math, and weather or not they should or shouldn’t pay for more courses in the basics, in college.
SAT= it’s not free and costs students around 30-50 dollars, your score on the test can be used to determine which basic classes you’d need to take or not (like extra English, extra math).
They’re both placement tests but one is free and the others isn’t. The free one (ACT) is basically a practice test, one that many students in high school take before their (SAT).
If you plan on going to college after high school then it would be in the students best school interests to take one or both of the tests.
*Also taking the SAT can be used to save college students money because they can skip some of the basic classes in college depending on their score. Which is usually worth the investment, (the $30-50 or so the test costs).
*Also they’re pretty much equivalent tests (in difficulty) , usually one isn’t much harder than their other, but it really depends on the tester and what areas they’re stronger in than others.
I took my high school exams 20 years ago now in the UK. Lots of subjects had different levels of exam literally called “higher” or “lower” depending on if the teachers thought you were dim or clever!
dude my high school started at 7:15 am. not always bright but definitely early
I'm so old we called 7th and 8th grade jr high. "Middle school" term came much later
Nuns usually wear a cross as a broach or necklace to identify their life choice.
Where I grew up, there was only grammar school and high school, grammar school until eighth grade.
awesome video in billions of ways
I went to a Catholic high school in the US in the 1970s, and was taught by Nuns. The most realistic film depiction of school Nuns was in "The Blues Brothers". I can recall being caught on the back swing of a Nun's hitting another student, who was swearing, with her ruler. We had a dress code, & if girls showed up with skirts revealing their knees, the Sisters would wrap newspapers around their legs for the day. I also had a Sister who taught algebra who could always spot a kid who showed up stoned for class. She'd have them at the blackboard doing algebra if they were high for her class. Nothing cures drug use like being forced to do algebra while high.
My highschool alloud basically any clothing. Short skirts and spaghetti straps anything really
kindergarten is part of elementary school and there is actually 2 different ideas about it. One is that kindergarten is an introduction to school and a lot more fun. the other type is more academic and last all day. When I was growing up the first type was used. Now the second type is more prevalent.
About the Sat - it is not necessary to graduate. It is supposed to help your placement in college. It supposed has been dumbed down since I took it and another part added. There were 1600 points possible and a great score was 1400 an above
It also shows the differant between Northren Ireland & Ireland
Northren Ireland was
Play School
Primary School
P1-P7 in P7 we sat the 11+to find out if we went to the integrated or Secondary School
Secondary School
Form 1 - Form 6. Then you sat GCSEs
Unless you went to a Special Needs School you stayed at the same school from P1-Form 6 & you didn’t sit the 11+ or GCSEs.
My school was full of male & female teachers & we had to wear a uniform.
School hours was 9:00 AM - 3:00 PM
The leaving cert is Cinema to the GCSEs in Northren Ireland.
Leaving was great but my last year was like a summer camp
I was moved from my Primary School in P6 to a special Needs School
I enjoyed my time at school & meet a lot of good people but I wouldn’t go back.
We use to call pre-school by the name nursery school. Elementary school is our primary & our secondary is 7-12 (high school plus some middle school). My dad used to call elementary school by the name grade school. Some people called middle school by the name junior high. We didn’t have a junior high, we just had a a middle school than high school. But in university I knew someone who had both a middle school and junior high & then went to high school.
Fyi: Kindergarten isn’t required in the US.
I always knew k-6 as elementary school, 7-8 is jr high and 9-12 is high school.
Each state has an age cut off in NY you need to be 5 before dec 1 to enter Kindergarten. So if your b-day is dec 2, you would have to wait another year to start and you would be six.
Most public schools in US don’t have uniforms but many do.
Girls in 1950 DID where skirts. They wore skirts all. The. Time. Moms always dressed up every day.
Your school times make SO MUCH more sense!! Little kids are always up early and HS kids always sleep so much. On long island hs kids get on the bus at 6:30-6:45. They are home by 1:40. I guess the early time is for sports.
American school is labeled much better than Irish School.
I still have nightmares of the leaving cert.
That's so unnatural. Why do Irish schools do that to kids? Thats terrible. Sounds like school is more about the test than actually learning. Not good.
Maths and Math are both short for Mathematics... It's only one subject, just abbreviated differently :D
The school we went to (in Illinois) and most of the schools in our area, it was K * 8th grade, we didn't have a separate "middle school". It was also a catholic school, it was co-ed. I'm in my mid 50s now, I don't remember what our nuns wore at that point. I don't think they wore full habits anymore, but they did wear very conservative clothes and I think they still wore whatever the head covering is called from the habit. Most of our teachers were not nuns though, there were only a couple who were. We did not have uniforms in grade school but we did in our catholic high school.
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Yes another good subject that's very different between the 2 countries!
"Kindergarten"... is "so American"...
The word is literally GERMAN, meaning "Children Garden".
"Elementary School" goes through either 4th Grade (when you are 10 years-old) or 6th Grade (12 years-old)
"Middle School" is usually 5th Grade (11 at the end) - 8th Grade (when most people are 14 at the end)
"Junior High School" would mean 7th Grade & 8th Grade ONLY (usually starting at 12 years-old and finishing at 14 years-old)
"High School" is usually 9th Grade - 12th Grade (usually 18 when you finish)
-There are exceptions. It is possible to have "Senior High" only being "11th Grade & 12th Grade" or 10th-12th Grade, but the norm is 9th Grade through 11th Grade.
Some boarding schools, especially in New England will use the British terms "3rd Form, 4th Form, 5th Form, & 6th Form" for 9th Grade -:> 12th Grade
Some parts of the country have a cut off of birthdays at:
January 1st
...others...
September 1st
Some parts of the country focus on sports A LOT (!!!!) and so boys, especially, will be held back in their younger years so that they will be OLD for their grade, finishing high school at 19 years-old.
Other parts, especially the East Coast, have the January 1st birthday cutoff, so many people will be 17 years-old with they finish high school, because their birthdays are in June->December.
That's so interesting I didn't know it was a German word! I meant it sounds so American because you hear it so much on tv 😂
@@AmyMcDonaghGuitar- Yes, it's a American as zucchinis! (a.k.a. "courgettes")
I won't bore with you a mostly accurate American history lesson of the massive waves of German immigrants to the USA from the 1820s-1850 and then later in the 1850s - 1880s/'90s and how beer, engineering, canal systems, sausages, farming, slow meet cooking, schools... were heavily influenced by those German immigrants.
Suffice it to say, that an impressive percentage of Americans have German ancestry. If you separate the Irish from the English (and why wouldn't you?) the largest percentage of ancestry in the US population is German, over Italians, English, and Irish. (Or at least it was when I first saw that stat about 20 years ago.)
@@chancemiller9340 Und so brachten wir euch den Kindergarten. Gern geschehen.
Interesting discussion. During my time in school, those middle years had the public schools changing the setup some. Initially, Elementary was 1st through 5th. 6th through 8th was Jr. High School and 9th through 12th was High school. Then it changed. Jr High became Middle school and was 6th through 9th. High school or Sr. High school was 10th through 12th.
However, I went to a Catholic Primary and Highschool. The Primary was from 3rd to 8th(I went to public elementary school for a while before I went to Catholic Primary school). And there was mandatory uniforms. The girls wore a white blouse, with blue and black plaid skirt. Boys wore white shirt and black or dark blue pants, that were NOT jeans. High school had no uniforms, but jeans and t shirts were not allowed. My Freshman year, my highschool was boys only. There were also two girls schools. My sophomore year we went co-ed, as the girls' schools closed.
There were nuns and priests teaching, as well as lay teachers. The nuns were a mix of pre Vatican II and post Vatican II, as far as habits....mostly based on age.
I love these videos,so interesting and informative. And I like the way you talk to each other
4th year is also known as transition year now where you go on a lot of trips and get work expirence then go to fish and start studying again
Suburban New York Catholic school veteran here. It gave me a life long hatred of wearing ties. It was the early 90s so at least the nuns and teachers couldn’t throw you a beating like in my parents day.
I was 16 when i done my leaving cert, which was young but i never let it bother me i would see people get stressed out about and could never understand why they would let it stress them, and secondary school was 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th there was no 6th
My years were 1, 3, 4, 5 and 6 LOL
its when I "did" my leaving cert not when I "done" my leaving cert
'did'
I had to do 9 subjects for my leaving despite only 6 counting. We also called it low babies and high babies.
Ok so I had it totally different names in Ireland, we went from playschool right into primary school, which is p1, p2… and so on until p7 and after that was kind of like middle school and high school combined so it was 7 years and it stared as 1st grade, 2nd grade, 3rd grade and so in until the big exam and you went to university
I always thought that the irish schools were similar to us mainland England peeps, sooo play school, then primary school reception class, then yr1,2, &3, middle school yr 4 to 7, then high school yr 8 -11
KatG ESMT Why would the republic of ireland have a similar to the UK 100 years after gaining independence from the UK.What do you think he just kept the same education system for 100 years without changing it to fit our needs.In fact the founding fathers made a point of making the education system different from the british one.Mainland england do you have any idea how offensive that is ireland is not a little island of your coast .
Elementary school for me was kindergarten through 4th grade, middle school was 5th-8th.
Also, did not study for the SATs AT ALL.
SATs were not technically an exam to study for as there is no passing or failing. But there are exam prep books & courses (outside of regular school) that more motivated students might utilize.
@@chrisk5651 yes, that’s more what I meant. I didn’t attempt to prep for them in any way
I dropped out my junior year of high school I don't regret it I did what was best for me
Leaving was absolute hell! Mountains of homework and only half of my classes were honours. English, history and maths gave out mountains of homework. Especially English, we hated her with a passion!
One thing I can say is for the Junior cert and the Leaving cert, the whole three years up to it ispreparing you for the exams. In the USA there are tests periodically throughout the year and the homework is also marked. SO.... the periodic tests and homework are added up or averaged up to be a portion of your final mark and the final exam at the end of the year is added to the homework and periodic tests. BUT.. in Ireland you work and stuy constantly, but there are no exams or test that are put on your final marks that add up to points. Now the Junior and Leaving exams are a nightmare. The student will go in and have say two papers or you could call them exams for just one subject, say English. Each English paper or exam could be up to three hours long. You write and write as quickly as you can to be able to finish. Say in English during those years you may have studied a Shakespeare play and you must know everything and write you own educated thoughts on it. Write a big long essay and answer detailed questions as well. Your hands ache terrible. They may have two subjects done in a day. Say 3hours for English and the afternoon another two or three hours for another subject like Maths. Every subject is like that. You can't just answer a question correctly with all information needed on the paper. That is NOT GOOD enough. You have to expound on it. Like Geography is known to be a very difficult exam. If you just answer correctly you will be failed. You must write and write and expound on it. Be very long wided with much information and woth all exams, make sure your handwriting is perfectly legible and that your grammer and spelling and punctuation has to be perfect, or points are taken from you. The art exam is different, as they have you do these pieces of art, oe would have to be 3d, another a painting. You have to do loads of art that is all mounted on big sheets to see your creative thought progression through drawing for each piece. Not just one big sheet of art and drawing cut out and pasted or mounted on the big sheets. You do this for all your art. Art to back up the final piece. You do this even for your 3d, usually has to be some kind of sculpture. And of course the final piece. ÀND on the fay of exams you must sit snd do life drawings. For art, the sheer amount of work is crazy! Pluss you have to do the writtenexam for art. Such as art history. These exams ALONE count for your mark. Nothing you did all year gets added in. And examiners you don't know come in whole you do your exams. It is not your teachers. Every subject, which are about nine, your exams could be two big exams or papers, sometime 3 and each could be two to three or more hours long. And the thing that makes this so nerve racking is... all the marks you get adds up to points, and the amount of points is what determines what University that will accept you! They offer you places. In the USA you can aproach one or more to see which will accept you. Now if you aren't well, if you are sick with the flue, get appendicitis or have not slept because you have studied too much, and you are in terrible form, and if ye are sick and do poorly or God forbid, you miss an exam, you cannot make it up. All your mark depends on the exams. There is nothing the the three years up to it can be added to your mark. If you have done GREAT WORK all the years and your teacher loves you, you do all your homework( in the USA all this would be added to the final mark) BUT in Ireland, none of all that work is couted in the exam score. ONLY the exam given at the Juniour and Leaving exams counted into your points. So if you're sick, or tired, break a leg and can't be there or you miss it for any reason or do poorly because of illness, you fail. And all the points together don't add up to what you need to get into the course you want then you must do the whole last year over again and retake the exams. How many students do you think would feel good about going back to school and be in the class that was always below you. All your friends have gone on to University. So many students will retake it at a different school. Now say, if you want to do physiotherapy, the points for that course particularly are very very high! The same with medicine, or computer science. Now they are not high because of difficulty, but because of the popularity or the course majour you want. If it is a popular course, many students will be trying to get in and there are only so many placements. So depending on popularity determines the amount of points you need. If you don't get enough pioints, then, there you go back at secondary school and do the leaving cert AGAIN. Most students would have had their Grad, they call it. It is a formal dance and dinner, the equivalent to the Prom in America but alittle more toit, such as the dinner. It is orgaised by students and is a celebration of finally beiing grown and leaving school for University or to do an apprenticeship, or get a job, do farming. But usually students must go on to University to do faming. There is a lot to learn and a lot of work and even science to modern day farming. As you can see, the Junióand Leaving Certificates are very difficult. It used to be that many would take the Junior certificate and leave school then to go on to work or work at faily farm or whereever. But nearl all student complete school straight to the Leaving certificate. At one time it was mostly the girls that wet on to the leavig because the young lads had to workto help support the family. I can compare the American school system to the Irish. Because I am American and went through the school system till graduation and on to 3rd level. I moved to Ireland 32 years ago and raised our five children here. My eldest child was 20 years older than our youngest. Our youngest did her Leaving cert in 2020. Unfortunately because of covid, after all the years of studying for her Leaving cert, her year was the first to miss the Leaving exam because we went into lock down.. Which was to all the students a let down. Because you get to prove to yourself, and to your teachers how well you can do, because they try to do their best in the exams. They didn't have a chance. About three months after what would have been their Leaving exams, the government decided that the teachers should guess their exam scores, which turned out disastrous for the students. Vindictive teachers and grumpy teachers could just give them a low mark because they wanted to. I don't think one student that I know got the points they thought they'd be abe to do. All of then knew it was the exams that counted. None ever thought their teachers would end up being able to guess what a mark they would've gotten from something that never happened. That was a stupid idea. Many students have fallen into depression The marks came to late for most to get ready and have accommodation or even a school offering them a place. And they had to defer and stayed home and didn't go to University. Many as I said have gone into depression. They never had their grad, their exams, said goodbye to friends or gone on to 3rd level school with friends. They couldn't even see their friends for all the lock down. Some young Irish kids committed suicide or attempted. It was just so messed up for them. And at a time when they were excited about spreading their wings to fly. If you know Jesus as your Lord and Saviour, please pray for these kids and for ALL those that have gone deep into depression becauseof covid. The spirit of heaviness or depression has come upon many. We must pray. The best thing to do when depressed is sing, sing praise songs to God, , praise Him and dance. The spirits of heaviness the Bible says is a dark demonic spirit. It can't stand songs and praises. If you feel depression, sing out loud to God. God bless you all and thank you. Oh, praying is talking to God. He wants to hear from you!✝️🙏🏼🕊☘
Or instead of praying why not just wish for a miracle to come often while you are depressed? It will manifest eventually, and time helps numb you until you are ready to heal the trauma yourself.
@@ikawba00 @Angelic Kiss Hi, thank you for your comment. The reason I pray is...I, and all who believes in Almighty God and who calls on His name, the name of Jesus, are now His children and are clothed in the righteousness of Christ. We receive Christ's righteousness by His grace, not by any works or good deeds. His Holy Spirits lives in us Christians. The Holy Spirit, the Third person of the Trinity, (God), in us now intercedes for us. Brings our prayers straight to heaven, to God. That is the best way to talk to God. When we ask for something, when we are in need or suffering, or are being taught by God. It is our communication to God. There is NOTHING BETTER THAN PRAYER. For you are talking to the Creator, the sourse of all good things. He is in all, and through all, and all things are held together by Him. So Jesus is the One I talk to which is prayer. Why should I Wish for a miracle? Wish to whom? God is the Creator, the One who does miracles. I hope I answered your question and made it clear.
You should believe in Jesus as yourlife and Saviour and receive His free gift of salvation. You see, you are set free and made new. What an amazing gift to receive. He took your place on the cross, everyones place and paid the penalty for all our wrong doings, which are called sin. By paying your pennalty, He
purchased your life. If you want to receive His free gift of life, life everlasting, to be reborn spiritually, you must believe in Him as God your Saviour, that He died for your sins, that He rose again from the dead on the third day, and that conquering death. He is the judge of the living and the dead. He is the one who sends Satan, fallen angels & demons and those dead in their sin to hell and the Lake of fire for eternity. And He is the One who puts your name in the Lambs Book of Life in Heaven, those are all who have received His salvation.. He is the One who sends us to glory to live with Him for eternity. You see He desires that not one person parishes in the Lake of Fire. That is why He suffered the penalty of suffering and death owed to you and I, every person. Because all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. Meaning, all have done wrong doings, even if it's just lying. We inherited the desire to sin. Sin cannot live in heaven, cannot be in God's presence. And the penalty is death. So Jesus took our place and our sin was crucified with Jesus on the cross. He litterly became all sin for us, and it was destroyed on the cross, just so, when we believe in Jesus, repent, ( turn from sin ), believe He rose again, His righteousness is placed on us. And we become spiritually Born again of the Holy Spirit and sealed by the Holy Spirit till the day of redemption, till we go to be with God. When we are resurrected and go to glory to with Jesus forever. We are His Bride forever and heirs with Him to throne in heaven.
THAT is how much He LOVES
US!! PRAISE THE LORD Jesus!!
John 3:16-21
16“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. 17For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but so that the world might be saved through Him. 18The one who believes in Him is not judged; the one who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God. 19And this is the judgment, that the Light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the Light; for their deeds were evil. 20For everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come to the Light, so that his deeds will not be exposed. 21But the one who practices the truth comes to the Light, so that his deeds will be revealed [f]as having been performed in God.”
So, a lot of schools will have you do the ACTs or SATs in your junior year, or at least start there. Or, at least they used to.
In my case, I also took the ACTs. I was most pissed off when I got into college and found out that if I had gotten one more point on the exams, then I could have gotten a full scholarship with all fees and tuition paid - and I would have been allowed to take the exams more than once. But by then, it was too late to re-take the exams once I was in college.
Noooooo, not 5:00 AM. More like 8:15 and earlier as you go through the levels. When I was in high school, we started at 7:05. We did end somewhere in the 2o’clock hour, sometimes 3:00.
about the female teachers thing i feel like that’s probably more of a girls school thing. in primary school i had almost all female teachers but secondary school i went to 2 schools and it was probably a 65:35 split female to male in both
Yeah i agree I was in both an all girls school and a mixed school. In the girls there was only like 5 max and in the mixed it's pretty much 50:50. Theres also way more male teachers in secondary than primary
Ia that where the old song comes from:
"Aye it's the Leaving Certificate that grieves me,
I'm so nervous that I want to pee."
I came to Virginia in 93 when I was 9 from New York. New York school is a little different since Virginia school, it’s just culture that changed a bit from urban to country. Also Virginia is a Bible Belt state and everyone here in Virginia is different as far as culture and lifestyle. A New York school I went to was called P. S. 85 Virginia school I went in is called Fairfield Elementary