No not the same Brazilian legends always played in Europe that’s the difference they never played in Brazilian league like the Germans always stay in their league with their identity. Brazilians started in European leagues already. So no this isn’t the same problem, Willy.
actually, when it comes to german values and strenghts, bastian schweinsteiger was one of the last to epitomise these so i guess he know what he's talking about.
@@EagleEyes77 I would argue that they won 2014 despite possession-based football, not because of it. There were games against Brazil and Portugal where they were able to play more direct when the opportunity was available. Even in possession they were more decisive and direct in 2014 than they were post 2014. Since winning the world cup they took the Pep tiki-taka system to an extreme and it has not worked out for them. Pep is a good coach, but you need the right players and more time to practice implementing the system, which is often lacking in international football.
@@markseidel19 I get you, but I think Pep clarified that his game is not tiki taka. And since he left Barcelona, the style has been far from the actual one. He helped the Germans play directly by utilizing a centre forward. He gave them a fresh winning mentality, and his regime was the fourth time Bayern won the league three times in a row. So the influence was actually there.
The Pep playstyle heavily incluenced our countrys courts fields and cages. Go around any large German city and watch the young guys play. You'd think they're spaniards. He's right in that regard. But its not so much our football governing body that took in Pep's style too much, its more the young players try to replicate it for themselfs
You could say the Pep way is what influenced the German World Cup winning team, that Brazil 7-1 game was Tika Taka with German efficiency at its finest
@@Youafool500LIES! 100% LIES. STOP! Don't do that. Pep didn't influence that German in the slightest, not even a little bit. Stop, you over hyping the man. And confusing the facts. And those that agree with you, must have started watching football last week Monday.
@@amankhadka9622 lol most of the players there doesn't even play that in their club anymore Stop this blaming pep nonsense, dude always getting scapegoat treatment for no reason 😂
@@crist3809what about Barcelona and Spain then? They’ve been trying to play tiki taka possession football since the days of Guardiola and they’ve been serial failures for years now. Pep is to blame. How are you going to argue with Germany and Bayern legend and former Pep player Bastian Schweinsteiger? He experienced it all.
He's completely true. That's actually a problem for many other teams, clubs etc who are trying too hard to copy Guardiola while they are forgetting their own strengths.
Exactly. It's evident. Losing your national team values because of club teams and bayern didn't even achieve anything with Pep that they didn't achieve previously with other managers.
Well, Bayern and Germany have dominated for so long that anything other than winning is a shock. One thing that changed was the philosophy at both club level and national level. So, though it's tough to admit Pep can have bad impacts on football. Giving him credit for the 343 when it's was Conte who took it from Gasperini and brought it to the Premier league or the recent City using Stone as CB, CM and CF who took it form Inzaghi after what Inter did in the Champions league is Bullshit. The media will soon give Pep credit for passing or shooting. 😂 🤦🏻♂️ Football existed before Pep. Get off his dick. Tiki taka was tedious and boring. That's why he stopped it after Barca.
Are you new to football? When Conte was playing 343 in Juve...where was Gaspirini? When Pep was doing that at Barca and switching Lahm to RB where was Inzhaghi?
@@kwadwoasamoah103 you're a fool. The fact that you asked these questions means you'll never know the answer. I won't be replying to you anymore, you clearly have far too much to learn and are far too arrogant as indicated from that ridiculous statement. The media likes Pep and love to give him ownership of things that existed before him. It's all about brand, image and sales. Gasperini made 343 relevant when pep was still a CM. The recent "revolution" of the CB taking space in CM and CF as Stone did for City was taken by Pep from Inter in the narrow lucky win they had in champs league and Inzaghi took it from guess who? Gasperini. Bye 👋educate yourself.
Absolutely agree with him as a Pole. We always said that German team is like well oiled machine. Not the most spectacular but strong physically with great basic technic but without flair. They had great first touch and shooting/passing technique but no backheels or tiki taka. They didn't need 100 passes but one precise one to the striker. They lost it and changed into wannabe Spain/Argentina. We beat Germany first two times in history of our matches in this time. It means something. We even had that saying "everyone plays but Germany wins at the end". You need to get your German identity back.
It makes perfect sense and is perfectly true. Ozil was the typical "we tried and played nicely but lost" player ... he was not relevant in 2014. He went to Arsenal, whichis theee "we tried and played nicely but bottle everything" team. @@Elphin89
I don’t understand why he’s getting blamed as if he was in charge of the National team. I get it, Munich is majority the German team but just because he brought his own style to Munich doesn’t mean everyone has to adopt it. If they are adopting it, that’s because they think it works. If it doesn’t, change it back
I don’t think he means it’s Pep’s fault, he’s saying because of how successful Pep is with it everyone tries to copy it instead of doing their own thing
As the guy before me said he's not blaming Guardiola but rather everyone else for trying to copy the playstyle blindly. The video title is a bit clickbaity.
Don't forget those players spend most time in club football than country football so trying to change there style in intervals will be hard ...that's what he is trying to say that's why the other coaches just go with it ..old habit die hard
klopp is going to get the top job in german national team. all this talk about leaving liverpool to have a rest is just a smokescreen, he is being prepared to take over after the euros.
That's because the success of Bayern Munich prior to Guardiola's arrival. Bayern would have won another Champion League if Heynckes stayed. Guardiola destroyed definitely Bayern!
@@zhijianli5838no, they wouldn’t have. The teams that won the UCL during that period were prime Madrid and MSN Barca. Bayern was bound to lose to those one way or another
Bayern pre Pep were capable of playing fast flowing attacking football, counterattacking and mixing it up and he completely neutralised that side of them. They were far more effective and exciting to watch before his arrival.
This is true. Especially under jupp heynckes, they were a menace. He flund the perfect formula that fit the team. Pep underachieved massively with bayern
As a german fan it’s shocking to me how wrong he is. Löw's playing system has been totally orientated towards Guardiola since 2010. That was one of the reasons why Germany became world champions in 2014. The subsequent failures were mainly due to the DFB's mismanagement and miserable work with young talent. German sports media and experts are all agreeing to that in their analysis. It has nothing to do with lost values.
Agreed. Imo most professional footballers don't understand the game on a strategic level so they make bad pundits. Analysing and playing require two different kinds of talents
I remember the German national team back then. Incredible football, brilliant passing plays/combinations and they were one of the most exciting teams to watch. They didn't play traditional German football, it was influenced by Guardiola which no doubt helped with their success. Lack of talent in future generations feels like the main problem today.
See, that's technically true, but also doesn't invalidate Basti's statement either. The reason why it worked in 2010 and 2014 was because of a once in a lifetime stroke of luck - the presence of Özil and prime Müller who actually enabled this style of play, breeds of players not normally inherent to Germany. The presence of these two managed to mask the underlying issues for a while and actually managed to make it work when it shouldn't have from the very beginning.
@@segafreak2000its the most dominant play style in the 21st century and you are saying it shouldn't have worked 😅 football evolves, inferior play styles get replaces by better ones, its that simple IMO
If it isn’t out of context, it’s a bad take. Trying to blame on Pep his country’s own failure, due to lack of premium talent in comparing to previous years. Brazil is suffering from something similiar, the players come and go. Sometimes you have generational talent and sometimes you don’t. That’s how it works! In the end, it’s all about the players, even if you argue some tactics may benefit more than others.
That’s it. It’s simply regression to the mean. The countries dominating now will slump as well. People forget how France slumped after the ‘98 World Cup win.
In 2014 first german team had 7 players from bayern. Thats why they won world cup. Same like spain 2008, 2010 and 2012 their team was build from 2 teams. Players train with each other every day. That was key of sucess
Pep was begging kroos to stay at bayern. But bayern didn't want to give him the contract Madrid was offering. And for any player, if Madrid comes knocking at your door, he'll always leave.
He’s actually right you can play that tiki taka to control the game either when you are facing a weaker opponent or you are comfortably ahead in the game. But when it’s 2 heavyweights going against each other, you have to use everything in your Arsenal to win. Best Examples are the 2 last WC winners. France and Argentina weren’t playing the best nor attractive football in the world but they were talented squads and played the game to their strengths. Tiki Taka isn’t for everyone. Basti is spot on, he’s always been a classy player and now his commentary is also very good.
Even Barcelona itself will never again be able to execute the same tiki taka in near future. It was only possible because everything fell on it's place on the right time. The players playing Tiki Taka back then in Barcelona were the perfect individual players born to play in their perfect positions. Plus most of the players in the team comprised of La Masia players which led to magical chemistry between the team. We were fortunate to have been born in the Era of Tiki Taka Barcelona, where football reached it's peak. We will never see the same football in the future.
I don't remember Pep Guardiola ever being the manager of the German national team though? Surely the national team coach instills what kind of football he wants to play into his players and not the manager of a club side.
Didn't Germany won the 2014 WC when PEP GUARDIOLA was Bayern manager for 2 years in row before the 2014 WC 🤔 with bayern having 85-75% German players . This guy makes no sense .
He makes sense to me. And he is one of the world’s leading players so he probably knows what he is talking about. He is referring to the influence of Pep in German football over the years. Germany did not win the WC just because Pep started coaching Bayern a year or two prior. German football was traditionally hard nosed stuff, rugged in some senses, get the ball in and challenge for it - Not necessarily the pretty stuff but still great to watch in its own way.
I kind of agree with Bastion. And hes a great example of an amazing type of player that is not just technical and inteligent but was a freaking rock. Absolute legend
They forget that Bayern Munich dismantled Pep's Barcelona 7-0 in the CL semis back in 2013 through the German way. And even today the closest you come to beating Pep is Klopp and he uses the German way.
Whether Pep was manager or not means nothing. Barcelona was still trying to utilize tiki taka and it clearly didn’t work. Teams got used to it and Bayern was a great example.
When Guardiola coached Barca, Spain won the World Cup. Then he coached Bayern and Germany won the World Cup. Let him not act like Bayern never had success after Guardiola. Hansi Flick won 6 trophies while they played in a different way, Why did it not continue from there? People always searching for scape goats.
England have a decent chance to win the WC now too. His influence at Man City has been pretty huge. It's a shame he doesn't have more English players. If he traded: 1. De Bruyne > Bellingham 2. Declan Rice > Bernardo Silva 3. Sakaa > Rodrigo 4. Harry Kane > Halaand They could make an entirely English team and if they had the time at club level to learn and master making the most of each others abilities - they would have a *HUGE ADVANTAGE* over all the other teams in the next WC.
pep started at bayern in 2013. his influence did not penetrate germany enough in only 10 months lmao the rot started when lahm was being played in midfield same as kimmich later. we had a literal lahm regen and pep blew smoke up his ass and now the dumbass antivax brat is too stupid to see that he needs to be baby sat in midfield for average results. hes no pogba, kroos or modric that is worth having another do most of the leg work if he had just sat at rb for his career our midfield would actually work with what we have. we wouldn't need to find the rarest possible and most in demand type of player (a kante, prime casemiro, fernandinho or Martinez type player) just to placate a moron who thinks his best position is a higher profile one. peps done irreparable damage to the german style and Bayern? and for what? a few league wins that even Muller as player/manager would've done with that squad
Germany was used to having the best full back in the world with Phillip Lahm who could play both sides and then went on a several year streak with bad full backs I think people always gave the big names in German midfield too much credit for the success and were suprised then that it didnt work out anymore..Lahm is underappreciated imo despite leading them to world cup win as captain 2014
@@zhijianli5838that Barca team didn’t have Neymar and Suarez and didn’t play the same style of football as they did under Luis Enrique. Them losing had nothing to do with Pep’s coaching, prime MSN were just too good. As for Mandžukić and Schweinsteiger, neither of them were “abandoned”, they chose to leave. Also, it was losing Mandžukić that led to Lewa joining the team. I think that’s a pretty good trade-off.
I used to love German football playing style the most. They were like machines with extremely precise shots, positioning and movements. When they were on full attack, as an opponent, you know that you're now screwed. They could break into any defense if they wanted and tried enough. But sadly, those days are gone.
As an outsider I saw Germany’s football team like an army. They get in, they do the job quickly and move on. 3 passes, shot, goal. Very direct approach. Blitzkreig!
After Pep's 1st season at Bayern.... Germany won the World Cup in 2014 and after his last season at Bayern Germany went to the semis in Euro 2016 and lost against host nation France in a game they dominated.... since Pep left the country: World Cup 2018 knocked out in the group stage, Euro 2021 knocked out in 1st KO-Round and World Cup 2022 knocked out in the group stage... yeah looks to me they were doing just fine when Pep was there and as soon as he left they fell off a cliff
Dumb remark! First of all pep never coached the German national team and most importantly Germany won the world cup the German way by blitzkrieg scoring many goals! Had Germany played the mediocre Spanish way, by scoring only one goal in every match then certainly Germany would have not won the world cup in 2014. In the German way, they have won four world cups and ate the second greatest football nation in history whereas Spain is quite poor only reached the world cup final once and the semifinal twice that Germany have reached More than 7 times.
Well, it is actually kind of supply and demand law. Since Guardiola has won several times the championship, then coaches found out that it works, so they started using this tactics. Guardiola didn't spoil German football, he not only proved that is one of the best in the world, but also proved that his tactics is the best
Guardiola never went to Germany coach and told him play this way in the national team. Bayern munich is the biggest club in the country but still its not the country national team. Basti is talking trash. 😂
Spot on. I just love the football which Miroslav Klose, Bastian Schweinsteiger and Phillip Lahm Played. They are some sumptuous footballers extremely ruthless and so talented.
"Football is a sport, where 22 players kick a ball around for 90 minutes, and in the end the Germans win" Welp I can say that we definitly lost that image
1000% correct. Absolutely loved Jupp Hyenkes bayern football and old Germany football. Reason why they won the world cup was their old mindset. Watching kroos ping a ball 30 yard to Mario Gomez foot and him finishing it was beauty. Loved bayern until pep came because I knew he'd ruin their mentality and playstyle
It’s not just the playing style which is implemented but also the kind of player that is needed to implant it and I think this is the biggest change that has happened. Don’t forget many who are playing today haven’t known any other way of playing football so the argument is a little redundant. The type of player needed to implement this style is probably much more relevant.
Hello, man - Remember 2014 World Cup winner was Germany and Pep Guardiola joined Munich - 2013. How you could say this??? Even pep left 2016 and old Germany Players retired from Munich and Germany team expect muller and Toni Kroos.
Exactly, they act like Pep was in Germany for 10 years. Like come on no matter how influential you are you can't change the way a whole nation plays football after just 3 years. Especially since during the same 3 years Pep was criticized for never winning in the biggest moments with Bayern. Now all of sudden he influenced the way the whole national team plays? Come on 😂
Haha..Germany's style at 2014 was the same since 2006 and they win against many big teams like England, Argentina, Portugal etc, not because of Pep, but Low has made it long before Pep came
& during the UCL second leg of bayern vs real madrid, bayern players requested that they want to play “their style” & pep said ok, they ended up losing the match big time
As a German fan since 2006, I think he has got a point although it seems like this video is clipped and I would like to see the entire interview. In my opinion Pep is one of the reasons but he is definitely not the only reason, in fact FIFA is a more important reason in my humble opinion because they changed rules of referees decision making because a) they don’t like every team mimicking Spain and b) only a couple teams similar to Spain dominating the soccer world, because it’s apparently not good for commercial reasons. Another big factor is the overhyped domestic political correctness in Germany as it makes everyone on the team worry more about things like diversity, races, LGBT etc. rather than sheer competence and thus lead to the loss of the good old German values and fighting spirits.
@@jerrymcallister When you manage the hegemon of a country where 90% of all native talent play, then of course it's going to have an influence on the rest of the country.
That so true germany won 3 world cups and 3 euros whit true german.and 2014 whas some player not etnic german.but stil a strong storng team becus off players as schwinstgier.
That is the problem with having all the players of team from a single club. If the distribution of players were more even across different clubs to the national team then this issue wouldn't occur.
I'm Brazilian and yes it's the same shit that happened to us. He fucked everything up. There are no specialists in the field anymore. Just a jack of all trades that haven't mastered anything but running.
He is right. Also the trend of playing with a false 9 from that time was the reason all the tall players were trained to become defenders. That's why we don't have phyiscally strong strikers, besides Füllkrug, who didn't go the classic route through the academy.
Its bc pep knows that the thing that has the biggest value on the pitch, is having the ball. Thats why his team always gets the ball back FAST, if they lose it. He is the best coach in Football history.
@@mohitdeshmukh3398then don't blame pep, pep doesn't force you guys to play that way 😂 There are many managers who did not play that way and the players did not play like that as well 😂 Why it's pep fault.
@@mohitdeshmukh3398 he literally name dropped pep. He doesn't need that. what he says doesn't even make sense, it's not because media click baiting title that's what he literally said. And it's dumb. I don't even read the title. I hear what he says and it's dumb
@@mohitdeshmukh3398Jurgen doesn't play possession he plays high counter and high press people who copy pwp6is because they are shit lol Pep football is dominant because he knows the player that can adapt
Dumb remark he didn't even coach the German national team and if he had done that, Germany certainly wouldn't have won the world cup by playing the inferior style of play from Spain! The fact fact Germany has won 4 world cup whereas Spain Only once is more than enough to make my point.
Germany won the world cup the German way by blitzkrieg scoring many goals! Had Germany played the mediocre Spanish way, by scoring only one goal in every match then certainly Germany would have not won the world cup in 2014. In the German way, they have won four world cups and ate the second greatest football nation in history whereas Spain is quite poor only reached the world cup final once and the semifinal twice that Germany have reached More than 7 times.
@@Hambrentinosmuertosdehambre pep joins Bayern and Germany win the World Cup within a year. Pep becomes Barcelona manager and they in a World Cup and a euros. Pep joins Man City in 2016 and England go on to improve in international tournaments. Several pep Bayern players in that World Cup Germany team
It's a combination of lack of new talent in the striker and defender positions, as well as the fact that Pep's system doesn't suit the German national team. However, it's not Pep's fault that Germany decided to play that way.
No but he threw a spanner in the works. There are other factors also, hopefully Nagelsmann has analysed it thoroughly and implemented an action plan to address the issues (eg number 9, fortifying the defence, reviving the old style of play which is a time-tested method).
He's talking BS. Germans' change in stye of play had very little to do with Pep. It had to do with the trouncing by the Brazilian team in the 2002 WC finals. Germany had nothing to offer. They just couldn't cope with the fluency and skill of Rivaldo, Ronaldinho, and Ronaldo. Voeler was the head coach, and he was replaced by Klinsman, who initiated the new style of play for Germany in preparation for 2006, which they hosted. It was under the aegis of Joachim Low that Germany began to impose itself with steely resolve and fluency culminating in the historic win in Brazil and trouncing Brazil and Argentina on their way to victory. That style served Germany well. Remember the demographics that produced archetypal tall German player had changed. There were more immigrants of great talent like Boateng, Ozil and Khedira. Pep only coached Bayern Munchen from 2013 a year ahead of WC 2014. Germany had long changed the style of play under Klinsman and Low.
Yes, ethnicity of players has a major influence on playing style. It's really hard to merge these different styles and use only their strengths to create something successful. They managed 2014, though. But success wil never be as consistent as before
jupps treble winning bayern which also made up the core of the WC winning squad matched up extremely well against possession based teams. madrid and barca both got shat on by german teams in the CL semis that year because of their style. high press high tempo and being efficient with few touches and passes. the pep comes in, sure he starts destroying league teams because they have lower quality. but come big cl matches we lost to the exact style that jupps squad was playing. time and time again we got beat on the counter or a high press turn over. the same thing is happening at man city. they walk the league, but they struggle in europe at the top end against clinical counter teams in namely madrid and psg. sure they won one. but when they've got access to any player they want, just like Chelsea did under Mourinhos first run you're bound to win it eventually. put pep in a team without infinite money or messi and his style will make that team worse. bayern during peps era could've won the league without a manager due to the amount of legends there at the time. if they had not sacked jupp or even just focused on a cl specialist manager it would've been historic in terms of results. but Bastian is right. peps bs has infected football for the worse in most cases. now that klopp is retired theres a real lack of that german geigenpress style that took over the world in 2012 to 2014
Pep is the Most influential person in football. When he tries or discovers a new tactics or method everybody follows him. Thats where Madrid is different. They don't go with the trend, that's why they are the best in the history
Germany’s problem isn’t their style of play, its their values, attitude and mentality on and off the pitch that has set the tone for their demise. The last 2 WC’s attests to that.
I find correlation between this and the South African Springboks. We tried playing New Zealand style rugby and went into our worst international period of all time. When we went back to basics and hard work we won 2 RWCs on the bounce.
It's not about one trainer called Guardiola, who initiated indirectly the German national football team to lose there core values like strength, fighting spirit, discisipline etc. . We don't have this GERMAN core VALUES anymore like in the past, because we HAVE almost NO GERMANS anymore in the team.
I totally agree with this ... The German team and Bayern Munich for that matter are at their best when they are a counter attacking team that exploits the mistakes in another teams possesion and being very efficent on those counterattack chances... The German teams from 2008 to 2016 were very strong counter attacking teams and very direct .. same with Bayern from around 2009 to 2013... And then again after Pepe and under Jupp and Flick The Spanish system eventually broke down and became pointless side to side passing and few actual chances... (This is coming from a Spanish and Real Madrid fan) Plus the quality of attacking midfielders that play through the center dropped off after the mid 2010s ane has lead to an age of wingers and wide attacks..
It’s not that. It’s Germany started bringing in names we have never heard of and leaving behind proven players like Sane. They over engineered the squad way too early.
People need to understand… pep is killing football. I don’t even put pep in my top 10 best managers ever. You could’ve put a doughnut in charge or all the clubs he has manages and get the same results. He picks the best teams of the best leagues to go and coach. When he gets there he destroys creativity, controls players and stifles growth. You’ll see in the long run he is bad for football. I believe he is a pure narcissist. More of these stories will come out how he damages places but people won’t see it until he has left those places.
I agree. Even if what Germany did to Brazil with that 7-1 was short passes and brilliant football. But consistency was a german thing since ever, they lost it. And in time systems were developed to counter short-pass football.
Germany won the world cup with players that were trained, formed and heavily influenced (as they themselves say) by Guardiola when he was at Bayern. After Guardiola left Bayern, Germany dipped.
I always thought this was the reason. Brazil is having the same problem by trying to play "European"
Facts 💯
No not the same Brazilian legends always played in Europe that’s the difference they never played in Brazilian league like the Germans always stay in their league with their identity. Brazilians started in European leagues already. So no this isn’t the same problem, Willy.
@@BoomboomYES963 English not englishing
@@BabbyCat3008 ironic, “englishing” isn’t a word 🤣. Pot calls the kettle I guess 🤷♂️.
@@BoomboomYES963 Like I don't already know that🤡
He sounded like Arnold Schwarzenegger when he said " as a fighter " . 😂
"Aaaghhh, get to the choppper"
Because their accents are same
Wtf does that have to do with the topic?
@@leo-messi61arnie is from Austria not Germany lad😂
Could it be that it's because they all come from Austrian origin.
we used to call their national team: "German Machines". coz it was like they never get tired
who used to do that??
I know in my country we called them that
So Spanish players get tired ? LMAO
In Nigeria, we also call them German machines. I think it's common knowledge.
@@halfvolley11they don’t have to get tired because they’re usually always in possession of the ball lol
actually, when it comes to german values and strenghts, bastian schweinsteiger was one of the last to epitomise these so i guess he know what he's talking about.
ok... silly goof
Pep actually influenced you guys winning the world cup.
@@EagleEyes77 I would argue that they won 2014 despite possession-based football, not because of it. There were games against Brazil and Portugal where they were able to play more direct when the opportunity was available. Even in possession they were more decisive and direct in 2014 than they were post 2014. Since winning the world cup they took the Pep tiki-taka system to an extreme and it has not worked out for them. Pep is a good coach, but you need the right players and more time to practice implementing the system, which is often lacking in international football.
@@markseidel19 I get you, but I think Pep clarified that his game is not tiki taka. And since he left Barcelona, the style has been far from the actual one. He helped the Germans play directly by utilizing a centre forward. He gave them a fresh winning mentality, and his regime was the fourth time Bayern won the league three times in a row. So the influence was actually there.
Oh yes the guy they had lift the world cup trophy first had nothing to do with the values of the team. Makes sense
The Pep playstyle heavily incluenced our countrys courts fields and cages. Go around any large German city and watch the young guys play. You'd think they're spaniards. He's right in that regard. But its not so much our football governing body that took in Pep's style too much, its more the young players try to replicate it for themselfs
You could say the Pep way is what influenced the German World Cup winning team, that Brazil 7-1 game was Tika Taka with German efficiency at its finest
@@Youafool500 You are so smart. Mediocre minded toddlers all around writing here. 😂
@@Youafool500 nope , what are you talking about ?
Bro, Brazil had more Ball possesion and shoots at target than Germany at that game. @@Youafool500
@@Youafool500LIES! 100% LIES.
STOP!
Don't do that.
Pep didn't influence that German in the slightest, not even a little bit.
Stop, you over hyping the man. And confusing the facts.
And those that agree with you, must have started watching football last week Monday.
"Playing the ball nicely to each other" 😅😂😅😂😅
😂😂😂
yeah that was tricky too 😂😂😂
What's so funny
He forgot to say “no homo”
😂😂😂
This is so true. As a Germany fan, its not been the same since 2014. We became too focused on possession football. It doesnt suit us at all.
You cannot blame a club manager for Germanys failings. Absolute nonsense.
@@Blue-moon12 definitely a lot of German players were influenced by pep while in Bayern
Bloody boring as well… and don’t suit out strikers who like to run in behind
@@amankhadka9622 lol most of the players there doesn't even play that in their club anymore
Stop this blaming pep nonsense, dude always getting scapegoat treatment for no reason 😂
@@crist3809what about Barcelona and Spain then? They’ve been trying to play tiki taka possession football since the days of Guardiola and they’ve been serial failures for years now.
Pep is to blame. How are you going to argue with Germany and Bayern legend and former Pep player Bastian Schweinsteiger? He experienced it all.
He's completely true. That's actually a problem for many other teams, clubs etc who are trying too hard to copy Guardiola while they are forgetting their own strengths.
Germany won 2014 world cup by playing small, with Basti
I wouldn’t say that the players were also fighters and aggressive. I see none of that with players like gundogan and havertz
It was technical but not at the extreme that Guardiola would implement
@@R_G-ok2odpep joined in 2013 dummy
@@R_G-ok2odnah it was a year after. They played different footbal than Pep though
@@R_G-ok2odPep Joined Bayern in 2013 1 year before the world cup of 2014.
Exactly. It's evident. Losing your national team values because of club teams and bayern didn't even achieve anything with Pep that they didn't achieve previously with other managers.
They had it all even before he came, I understand you just wanted to drop something here.
Well, Bayern and Germany have dominated for so long that anything other than winning is a shock. One thing that changed was the philosophy at both club level and national level. So, though it's tough to admit Pep can have bad impacts on football. Giving him credit for the 343 when it's was Conte who took it from Gasperini and brought it to the Premier league or the recent City using Stone as CB, CM and CF who took it form Inzaghi after what Inter did in the Champions league is Bullshit. The media will soon give Pep credit for passing or shooting. 😂 🤦🏻♂️ Football existed before Pep. Get off his dick. Tiki taka was tedious and boring. That's why he stopped it after Barca.
Are you new to football?
When Conte was playing 343 in Juve...where was Gaspirini?
When Pep was doing that at Barca and switching Lahm to RB where was Inzhaghi?
@@kwadwoasamoah103 you're a fool. The fact that you asked these questions means you'll never know the answer. I won't be replying to you anymore, you clearly have far too much to learn and are far too arrogant as indicated from that ridiculous statement. The media likes Pep and love to give him ownership of things that existed before him. It's all about brand, image and sales. Gasperini made 343 relevant when pep was still a CM. The recent "revolution" of the CB taking space in CM and CF as Stone did for City was taken by Pep from Inter in the narrow lucky win they had in champs league and Inzaghi took it from guess who? Gasperini. Bye 👋educate yourself.
You might need to understand that pep didn't invent any of his tactics
German football is mechanical in nature...if they go back to that... they'll dominate again...
What does that even mean !??
@@043ash no tiki taka, overloading, passive defending non-senses
Yeah, we don't see German crosses anymore since Pep came to Bayern.
@@043ash German were always killers , played through strengths old germany had no mercy 4-1 , 4-0 and more spain in 2010 won every game 1-0
efficient, direct well oiled machine
Absolutely agree with him as a Pole. We always said that German team is like well oiled machine. Not the most spectacular but strong physically with great basic technic but without flair. They had great first touch and shooting/passing technique but no backheels or tiki taka. They didn't need 100 passes but one precise one to the striker. They lost it and changed into wannabe Spain/Argentina. We beat Germany first two times in history of our matches in this time. It means something. We even had that saying "everyone plays but Germany wins at the end". You need to get your German identity back.
Facts
It has a deep meaning
No flair? Didn’t they win the World Cup with Ozil as player maker? None of the comments about Germany losing their ‘identity’ make sense
It makes perfect sense and is perfectly true. Ozil was the typical "we tried and played nicely but lost" player ... he was not relevant in 2014. He went to Arsenal, whichis theee "we tried and played nicely but bottle everything" team. @@Elphin89
What is „German identity“?
I don’t understand why he’s getting blamed as if he was in charge of the National team. I get it, Munich is majority the German team but just because he brought his own style to Munich doesn’t mean everyone has to adopt it. If they are adopting it, that’s because they think it works. If it doesn’t, change it back
I don’t think he means it’s Pep’s fault, he’s saying because of how successful Pep is with it everyone tries to copy it instead of doing their own thing
He's getting blamed just as he is getting credited with the recent improvement in the English National team. Neither makes sense.
As the guy before me said he's not blaming Guardiola but rather everyone else for trying to copy the playstyle blindly. The video title is a bit clickbaity.
@@melonyellow0"A bit clickbaity" is putting it rather mildly I'd say
Don't forget those players spend most time in club football than country football so trying to change there style in intervals will be hard ...that's what he is trying to say that's why the other coaches just go with it ..old habit die hard
He's right. German's was = Klopp's way
The age of the Klopp shall be upon us! He will come, he must come! Bundestrainer Klopp, plleeeaassse.
klopp is going to get the top job in german national team. all this talk about leaving liverpool to have a rest is just a smokescreen, he is being prepared to take over after the euros.
@@trinihammer It's probably both. National team coaching is a lot less work than club football
You won the World Cup during that time
You do realise football is deeper than it seems right?
@@Lgx-ie4if sorry peps second account
He’s saying the residual effect
That's because the success of Bayern Munich prior to Guardiola's arrival. Bayern would have won another Champion League if Heynckes stayed. Guardiola destroyed definitely Bayern!
@@zhijianli5838no, they wouldn’t have. The teams that won the UCL during that period were prime Madrid and MSN Barca. Bayern was bound to lose to those one way or another
Bayern pre Pep were capable of playing fast flowing attacking football, counterattacking and mixing it up and he completely neutralised that side of them.
They were far more effective and exciting to watch before his arrival.
And also during Pep's era, Bayern never won UCL
This is true. Especially under jupp heynckes, they were a menace. He flund the perfect formula that fit the team. Pep underachieved massively with bayern
Sure, but who decided to recruit a manager with a plaing style that goes against the house style!?
True Klopp & Heynckes Style was Goated for Germany where they hammered Real Madrid & FC Barcelona
@@antiwokehumanHeynckes & Klopp demolished Spanish giants
As a german fan it’s shocking to me how wrong he is. Löw's playing system has been totally orientated towards Guardiola since 2010. That was one of the reasons why Germany became world champions in 2014.
The subsequent failures were mainly due to the DFB's mismanagement and miserable work with young talent.
German sports media and experts are all agreeing to that in their analysis.
It has nothing to do with lost values.
Thanks for that. Agreed 100 %
Agreed. Imo most professional footballers don't understand the game on a strategic level so they make bad pundits. Analysing and playing require two different kinds of talents
I remember the German national team back then. Incredible football, brilliant passing plays/combinations and they were one of the most exciting teams to watch.
They didn't play traditional German football, it was influenced by Guardiola which no doubt helped with their success. Lack of talent in future generations feels like the main problem today.
See, that's technically true, but also doesn't invalidate Basti's statement either. The reason why it worked in 2010 and 2014 was because of a once in a lifetime stroke of luck - the presence of Özil and prime Müller who actually enabled this style of play, breeds of players not normally inherent to Germany. The presence of these two managed to mask the underlying issues for a while and actually managed to make it work when it shouldn't have from the very beginning.
@@segafreak2000its the most dominant play style in the 21st century and you are saying it shouldn't have worked 😅 football evolves, inferior play styles get replaces by better ones, its that simple IMO
He's totally right. Best 31 ever, legend, goat 🐐.
If it isn’t out of context, it’s a bad take. Trying to blame on Pep his country’s own failure, due to lack of premium talent in comparing to previous years. Brazil is suffering from something similiar, the players come and go. Sometimes you have generational talent and sometimes you don’t. That’s how it works! In the end, it’s all about the players, even if you argue some tactics may benefit more than others.
That’s it. It’s simply regression to the mean. The countries dominating now will slump as well. People forget how France slumped after the ‘98 World Cup win.
someone gets it
In 2014 first german team had 7 players from bayern. Thats why they won world cup. Same like spain 2008, 2010 and 2012 their team was build from 2 teams. Players train with each other every day. That was key of sucess
Trouble is however, Pep Guardiola wasn't responsible for the fact Germany has produced virtually no decent CBs & Finishers in the decade of so.
He is not blaming Pep. He is blaming DFB for trying to imitate Pep's football poorly.
Absolutely agree.
Pep Guardiola also is the biggest reason why Real Madrid dominated last 12-13 years.
He sent Toni Kroos there.
Bayern did without him knowing which thereafter he was not happy about.
Pep was begging kroos to stay at bayern. But bayern didn't want to give him the contract Madrid was offering. And for any player, if Madrid comes knocking at your door, he'll always leave.
bayern board didn't want kroos hence why he left
And yet since Pep came to England, the English national team has performed extremely well
He’s actually right you can play that tiki taka to control the game either when you are facing a weaker opponent or you are comfortably ahead in the game. But when it’s 2 heavyweights going against each other, you have to use everything in your Arsenal to win. Best Examples are the 2 last WC winners. France and Argentina weren’t playing the best nor attractive football in the world but they were talented squads and played the game to their strengths. Tiki Taka isn’t for everyone. Basti is spot on, he’s always been a classy player and now his commentary is also very good.
Even Barcelona itself will never again be able to execute the same tiki taka in near future. It was only possible because everything fell on it's place on the right time. The players playing Tiki Taka back then in Barcelona were the perfect individual players born to play in their perfect positions. Plus most of the players in the team comprised of La Masia players which led to magical chemistry between the team. We were fortunate to have been born in the Era of Tiki Taka Barcelona, where football reached it's peak. We will never see the same football in the future.
I don't remember Pep Guardiola ever being the manager of the German national team though? Surely the national team coach instills what kind of football he wants to play into his players and not the manager of a club side.
Didn't Germany won the 2014 WC when PEP GUARDIOLA was Bayern manager for 2 years in row before the 2014 WC 🤔 with bayern having 85-75% German players . This guy makes no sense .
He makes sense to me. And he is one of the world’s leading players so he probably knows what he is talking about. He is referring to the influence of Pep in German football over the years. Germany did not win the WC just because Pep started coaching Bayern a year or two prior. German football was traditionally hard nosed stuff, rugged in some senses, get the ball in and challenge for it - Not necessarily the pretty stuff but still great to watch in its own way.
@@incognitobrown7782he eas overrated as a player. Kroos for example is so much better than he was.
@@Vecko-t8bnah he better than kroos
@@iamdezsi nah
Germany was not playing guardiola Style in 2014 yet. Did you even watch their games in 2014? It was direct attacks and not possession game
I kind of agree with Bastion.
And hes a great example of an amazing type of player that is not just technical and inteligent but was a freaking rock. Absolute legend
They forget that Bayern Munich dismantled Pep's Barcelona 7-0 in the CL semis back in 2013 through the German way. And even today the closest you come to beating Pep is Klopp and he uses the German way.
pep was not manager of barca at 2013
Whether Pep was manager or not means nothing. Barcelona was still trying to utilize tiki taka and it clearly didn’t work. Teams got used to it and Bayern was a great example.
Kyllä me tiesimme mitä sanoit
@@kaitheguy3572 well city won UCL using tiki taka Spain won euro wc and nations league using tiki taka
@@avinegi007we didn't use tiki taka
Schweinsteiger was in my top 3 ever favourite german players. The guy was incredible.
When Guardiola coached Barca, Spain won the World Cup. Then he coached Bayern and Germany won the World Cup. Let him not act like Bayern never had success after Guardiola. Hansi Flick won 6 trophies while they played in a different way, Why did it not continue from there? People always searching for scape goats.
England have a decent chance to win the WC now too. His influence at Man City has been pretty huge. It's a shame he doesn't have more English players. If he traded:
1. De Bruyne > Bellingham
2. Declan Rice > Bernardo Silva
3. Sakaa > Rodrigo
4. Harry Kane > Halaand
They could make an entirely English team and if they had the time at club level to learn and master making the most of each others abilities - they would have a *HUGE ADVANTAGE* over all the other teams in the next WC.
spain has one wc and germany 4. Pep has very lil influence on the german national team
@@FrankLucas-pw5hsthis is ridiculous
pep started at bayern in 2013.
his influence did not penetrate germany enough in only 10 months lmao
the rot started when lahm was being played in midfield same as kimmich later.
we had a literal lahm regen and pep blew smoke up his ass and now the dumbass antivax brat is too stupid to see that he needs to be baby sat in midfield for average results. hes no pogba, kroos or modric that is worth having another do most of the leg work
if he had just sat at rb for his career our midfield would actually work with what we have. we wouldn't need to find the rarest possible and most in demand type of player (a kante, prime casemiro, fernandinho or Martinez type player) just to placate a moron who thinks his best position is a higher profile one.
peps done irreparable damage to the german style and Bayern? and for what? a few league wins that even Muller as player/manager would've done with that squad
I always resonate german football with mental toughness, strength, fight and power. Happy for them if they get their form back in the near future
The quality of players is the reason why your team is down not Pep
Germany was used to having the best full back in the world with Phillip Lahm who could play both sides and then went on a several year streak with bad full backs
I think people always gave the big names in German midfield too much credit for the success and were suprised then that it didnt work out anymore..Lahm is underappreciated imo despite leading them to world cup win as captain 2014
Guardiola also destroyed Bayern Munich. Bayern would have won another Champion League if Heynckes stayed.
He didn't
@@LitoLochoss He had Javi Martinez play CD, and he abandoned Mandžukić as well as Schweinsteiger. All are terrible decisions.
He reached 2 semifinals in a row against Madrid and Barca so…
@@redhad3s867 lol it was 7-0 Barcelona right before his arrival and Bayern didn't lose any key player in transfer market.
@@zhijianli5838that Barca team didn’t have Neymar and Suarez and didn’t play the same style of football as they did under Luis Enrique. Them losing had nothing to do with Pep’s coaching, prime MSN were just too good. As for Mandžukić and Schweinsteiger, neither of them were “abandoned”, they chose to leave. Also, it was losing Mandžukić that led to Lewa joining the team. I think that’s a pretty good trade-off.
I used to love German football playing style the most. They were like machines with extremely precise shots, positioning and movements. When they were on full attack, as an opponent, you know that you're now screwed. They could break into any defense if they wanted and tried enough. But sadly, those days are gone.
As an outsider I saw Germany’s football team like an army. They get in, they do the job quickly and move on. 3 passes, shot, goal. Very direct approach. Blitzkreig!
He's right.....Culture is vital .
After Pep's 1st season at Bayern.... Germany won the World Cup in 2014 and after his last season at Bayern Germany went to the semis in Euro 2016 and lost against host nation France in a game they dominated.... since Pep left the country: World Cup 2018 knocked out in the group stage, Euro 2021 knocked out in 1st KO-Round and World Cup 2022 knocked out in the group stage... yeah looks to me they were doing just fine when Pep was there and as soon as he left they fell off a cliff
Dumb remark! First of all pep never coached the German national team and most importantly
Germany won the world cup the German way by blitzkrieg scoring many goals!
Had Germany played the mediocre Spanish way, by scoring only one goal in every match then certainly Germany would have not won the world cup in 2014.
In the German way, they have won four world cups and ate the second greatest football nation in history whereas Spain is quite poor only reached the world cup final once and the semifinal twice that Germany have reached More than 7 times.
Blame someone for yours fails talks about why you’re down.
same implies for u if u were to blame ur grammar teacher
he aint blaming he just talkin abt how his influence affected the way they play
Well, it is actually kind of supply and demand law. Since Guardiola has won several times the championship, then coaches found out that it works, so they started using this tactics. Guardiola didn't spoil German football, he not only proved that is one of the best in the world, but also proved that his tactics is the best
Guardiola never went to Germany coach and told him play this way in the national team. Bayern munich is the biggest club in the country but still its not the country national team. Basti is talking trash. 😂
What team did most players come from when they arrived at national team ??
Hes not talking trash. The framing of what hes saying as "blames Pep" is what is trash. Thats the issue.
@@mkodyglobalsouthsoldierhow is that pep’s fault?
What kind of statement is this ?
@@Supirbemo A bad one.
😂😂 i think Pep was the main reason that germany won 7 0 against brazil, and won the world cup. The fall of germany is because pep left
Fact Basti, 💪
Spot on. I just love the football which Miroslav Klose, Bastian Schweinsteiger and Phillip Lahm Played. They are some sumptuous footballers extremely ruthless and so talented.
"Football is a sport, where 22 players kick a ball around for 90 minutes, and in the end the Germans win"
Welp I can say that we definitly lost that image
Gary Lineker's famous quote
Blames pep for the German national team being shit, what a melt
Total BS of an excuse 😂 The fact is the players aren't performing on the damn pitch.
Or you could just name the actual reason: They spend more time on the multi colored flag than on the pitch.
1000% correct. Absolutely loved Jupp Hyenkes bayern football and old Germany football. Reason why they won the world cup was their old mindset. Watching kroos ping a ball 30 yard to Mario Gomez foot and him finishing it was beauty. Loved bayern until pep came because I knew he'd ruin their mentality and playstyle
He cannot get over the fact he wasnt good enough to play that way
It’s not just the playing style which is implemented but also the kind of player that is needed to implant it and I think this is the biggest change that has happened. Don’t forget many who are playing today haven’t known any other way of playing football so the argument is a little redundant. The type of player needed to implement this style is probably much more relevant.
You mean Pep tried turning robots into humans 😂😂 if you know then you know 😉 😏
Hello, man - Remember 2014 World Cup winner was Germany and Pep Guardiola joined Munich - 2013. How you could say this???
Even pep left 2016 and old Germany Players retired from Munich and Germany team expect muller and Toni Kroos.
Mular😹
what about Hummels, Boateng, Neuer, Höwedes, Özil, Khedira…
Exactly, they act like Pep was in Germany for 10 years. Like come on no matter how influential you are you can't change the way a whole nation plays football after just 3 years. Especially since during the same 3 years Pep was criticized for never winning in the biggest moments with Bayern. Now all of sudden he influenced the way the whole national team plays? Come on 😂
Totally agree, I was speaking abaut this for years
Guardiola started in bayern on 2013, and they won world cup on 2014 with a Squad that was 80-85% bayern…. Thats all I have to say
He's not blaming Guatdiola. He's blaming our national team for completely copying his playstyle and holding on to it for too long.
Haha..Germany's style at 2014 was the same since 2006 and they win against many big teams like England, Argentina, Portugal etc, not because of Pep, but Low has made it long before Pep came
& during the UCL second leg of bayern vs real madrid, bayern players requested that they want to play “their style” & pep said ok, they ended up losing the match big time
As a German fan since 2006, I think he has got a point although it seems like this video is clipped and I would like to see the entire interview. In my opinion Pep is one of the reasons but he is definitely not the only reason, in fact FIFA is a more important reason in my humble opinion because they changed rules of referees decision making because a) they don’t like every team mimicking Spain and b) only a couple teams similar to Spain dominating the soccer world, because it’s apparently not good for commercial reasons. Another big factor is the overhyped domestic political correctness in Germany as it makes everyone on the team worry more about things like diversity, races, LGBT etc. rather than sheer competence and thus lead to the loss of the good old German values and fighting spirits.
The downfall of Germany's football is because of Guardiola? LMFAOOO
Haha zero accountability
Apparently he coached every team in Germany including the national team
@@jerrymcallister When you manage the hegemon of a country where 90% of all native talent play, then of course it's going to have an influence on the rest of the country.
@@JUNGLEsausage who's fault is that again?
@@jerrymcallister Fine. Be stupid. I don't really care.
Tiki-taka football was never our style, keep it in Spain. German football is about speed, aggression, and clinical finishing 🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪
Who asked Bayern to supply the National Team and bring a Spanish coach in the first place ?
"Most of the countries were looking at Germany as a Fighter"💀
bro knows abt the hard time they gave dem allied Powers
It's coz you decided to prioritise the 🏳️🌈🌈 movement instead
What's the German national team doing for rainbows that other teams aren't
@@MrSquigeon They were most vocal about it in Qatar
Exactly! Not sure when Bastian said this, but I've always thought that since Pep manage Bayern.
That so true germany won 3 world cups and 3 euros whit true german.and 2014 whas some player not etnic german.but stil a strong storng team becus off players as schwinstgier.
That is the problem with having all the players of team from a single club. If the distribution of players were more even across different clubs to the national team then this issue wouldn't occur.
Pep is the GOAT
Explain how England have profited from this style? Stones, Foden , Palmer, Walker etc…all have excelled under Pep’s tutelage
Pep wasn't Bayern couch in 2020 Euro and 2022 world cup. What is your excuse now
he tellin about the impact you dumb4ss
I'm Brazilian and yes it's the same shit that happened to us. He fucked everything up. There are no specialists in the field anymore. Just a jack of all trades that haven't mastered anything but running.
Guardiola?
Now der panzer more care regarding LGBTQ than football
the fact!
He is right. Also the trend of playing with a false 9 from that time was the reason all the tall players were trained to become defenders. That's why we don't have phyiscally strong strikers, besides Füllkrug, who didn't go the classic route through the academy.
Germany & Italy fell off hard 😂
And brazil
Are you retarded😭 Italy JUST won the euro
@@damtemanat least Brazil still gets out of the group stage
@@SithKnightofSion still got knocked out 🤣🤣🤣
@@damteman Italy haven’t been to the wc 10 years LOL
I have been a Germany fan since 2006 and have been talking about this problem since Euro 2016.
Its bc pep knows that the thing that has the biggest value on the pitch, is having the ball.
Thats why his team always gets the ball back FAST, if they lose it. He is the best coach in Football history.
Absolute joke. Also isnt it Germany's fault that Bayern = Germany? How can you blame w club manager for the national team's failure.
He might be talking about the influence or new trends maybe
The title of the video might be portraying like he is blaming Guardiola
@@mohitdeshmukh3398then don't blame pep, pep doesn't force you guys to play that way 😂
There are many managers who did not play that way and the players did not play like that as well 😂
Why it's pep fault.
@@mohitdeshmukh3398 he literally name dropped pep.
He doesn't need that. what he says doesn't even make sense, it's not because media click baiting title that's what he literally said. And it's dumb.
I don't even read the title. I hear what he says and it's dumb
@@mohitdeshmukh3398Jurgen doesn't play possession he plays high counter and high press people who copy pwp6is because they are shit lol Pep football is dominant because he knows the player that can adapt
@@LitoLochoss but who asked about Jurgen
About 2 years after pep joining, germany won the World Cup 🤷♂️
Dumb remark he didn't even coach the German national team and if he had done that, Germany certainly wouldn't have won the world cup by playing the inferior style of play from Spain!
The fact fact Germany has won 4 world cup whereas Spain Only once is more than enough to make my point.
Germany won the world cup the German way by blitzkrieg scoring many goals!
Had Germany played the mediocre Spanish way, by scoring only one goal in every match then certainly Germany would have not won the world cup in 2014.
In the German way, they have won four world cups and ate the second greatest football nation in history whereas Spain is quite poor only reached the world cup final once and the semifinal twice that Germany have reached More than 7 times.
@@Hambrentinosmuertosdehambre pep joins Bayern and Germany win the World Cup within a year. Pep becomes Barcelona manager and they in a World Cup and a euros. Pep joins Man City in 2016 and England go on to improve in international tournaments. Several pep Bayern players in that World Cup Germany team
Let's be honest Guardiola isn't at fault Germany's new generation is becoming mediocre
It's a combination of lack of new talent in the striker and defender positions, as well as the fact that Pep's system doesn't suit the German national team. However, it's not Pep's fault that Germany decided to play that way.
It is
@@R_G-ok2od was he a germany national team coach or bayern munich coach , you should blame germaany for playing trash
@@R_G-ok2oda lot of the player they won with in 2020 were ones he brought in and developed, so this is just an outright lie
No but he threw a spanner in the works. There are other factors also, hopefully Nagelsmann has analysed it thoroughly and implemented an action plan to address the issues (eg number 9, fortifying the defence, reviving the old style of play which is a time-tested method).
He's talking BS. Germans' change in stye of play had very little to do with Pep. It had to do with the trouncing by the Brazilian team in the 2002 WC finals. Germany had nothing to offer. They just couldn't cope with the fluency and skill of Rivaldo, Ronaldinho, and Ronaldo.
Voeler was the head coach, and he was replaced by Klinsman, who initiated the new style of play for Germany in preparation for 2006, which they hosted. It was under the aegis of Joachim Low that Germany began to impose itself with steely resolve and fluency culminating in the historic win in Brazil and trouncing Brazil and Argentina on their way to victory. That style served Germany well. Remember the demographics that produced archetypal tall German player had changed. There were more immigrants of great talent like Boateng, Ozil and Khedira.
Pep only coached Bayern Munchen from 2013 a year ahead of WC 2014. Germany had long changed the style of play under Klinsman and Low.
Yes, ethnicity of players has a major influence on playing style. It's really hard to merge these different styles and use only their strengths to create something successful. They managed 2014, though. But success wil never be as consistent as before
Totally agree, the short passing game can be really boring at times
Bro is in his 30’s and looks 65 lmao. Still a legend
7:27 yo yo yo, are those my homies? 🤨
Nadie obliga a todos a copiar el estilo de Guardiola. Si se fueron temprano a casa dos años seguidos es porque su nueva generación da asco 😂
jupps treble winning bayern which also made up the core of the WC winning squad matched up extremely well against possession based teams.
madrid and barca both got shat on by german teams in the CL semis that year because of their style. high press high tempo and being efficient with few touches and passes.
the pep comes in, sure he starts destroying league teams because they have lower quality.
but come big cl matches we lost to the exact style that jupps squad was playing.
time and time again we got beat on the counter or a high press turn over.
the same thing is happening at man city. they walk the league, but they struggle in europe at the top end against clinical counter teams in namely madrid and psg.
sure they won one. but when they've got access to any player they want, just like Chelsea did under Mourinhos first run you're bound to win it eventually.
put pep in a team without infinite money or messi and his style will make that team worse.
bayern during peps era could've won the league without a manager due to the amount of legends there at the time.
if they had not sacked jupp or even just focused on a cl specialist manager it would've been historic in terms of results.
but Bastian is right. peps bs has infected football for the worse in most cases. now that klopp is retired theres a real lack of that german geigenpress style that took over the world in 2012 to 2014
Mate, pep made you win the World Cup by playing pep Guardiola’s way. You was playing as a team and was very strong.
Pep is the Most influential person in football. When he tries or discovers a new tactics or method everybody follows him.
Thats where Madrid is different. They don't go with the trend, that's why they are the best in the history
Is he blaming a club manager?! I guess is Pep's fault he put a lot of weight on as well
Germany won the world cup when Pep was Bayern's coach.
You were such an overrated player
Bastian Schweinsteiger was a world-class player, if anything, Germany need a box-to-box player like him in their midfield.
@@EgoHead710 Ballack was the best midfielder of that generation
@@zenosama1157 My point still stands.😤😤
Germany’s problem isn’t their style of play, its their values, attitude and mentality on and off the pitch that has set the tone for their demise. The last 2 WC’s attests to that.
Shameless clown bastian😅😅😅
I never knew Pep was the German National Team manager.
I find correlation between this and the South African Springboks. We tried playing New Zealand style rugby and went into our worst international period of all time. When we went back to basics and hard work we won 2 RWCs on the bounce.
Looks like klopp is the guy for the German National Team
It's not about one trainer called Guardiola, who initiated indirectly the German national football team to lose there core values like strength, fighting spirit, discisipline etc. .
We don't have this GERMAN core VALUES anymore like in the past, because we HAVE almost NO GERMANS anymore in the team.
Pep literally changed football globally
Johan Cruijff did
I totally agree with this ... The German team and Bayern Munich for that matter are at their best when they are a counter attacking team that exploits the mistakes in another teams possesion and being very efficent on those counterattack chances... The German teams from 2008 to 2016 were very strong counter attacking teams and very direct .. same with Bayern from around 2009 to 2013... And then again after Pepe and under Jupp and Flick
The Spanish system eventually broke down and became pointless side to side passing and few actual chances... (This is coming from a Spanish and Real Madrid fan)
Plus the quality of attacking midfielders that play through the center dropped off after the mid 2010s ane has lead to an age of wingers and wide attacks..
It’s not that. It’s Germany started bringing in names we have never heard of and leaving behind proven players like Sane. They over engineered the squad way too early.
People need to understand… pep is killing football. I don’t even put pep in my top 10 best managers ever. You could’ve put a doughnut in charge or all the clubs he has manages and get the same results. He picks the best teams of the best leagues to go and coach. When he gets there he destroys creativity, controls players and stifles growth. You’ll see in the long run he is bad for football. I believe he is a pure narcissist. More of these stories will come out how he damages places but people won’t see it until he has left those places.
I agree. Even if what Germany did to Brazil with that 7-1 was short passes and brilliant football.
But consistency was a german thing since ever, they lost it.
And in time systems were developed to counter short-pass football.
Germany won the world cup with players that were trained, formed and heavily influenced (as they themselves say) by Guardiola when he was at Bayern. After Guardiola left Bayern, Germany dipped.
Wut lmao