That's what I'm saying. People say that because Ronaldo's physique makes him look like he is working much harder than Messi but nobody is born knowing how to play football. Messi still had to work extremely hard but in a different way without relying on his physique that's all. Still takes time, dedication and effort to become the best. Really annoying when people say that as it takes all credit away from the greats that do work hard behind the scenes.
@@haominlunlhouvum5174 HE MAKES IT LOOK NATURAL... That's what you mean to say. Like I said nobody is born knowing how to play football, it takes a lot of practice to become great at something.
@@thisisarmando8393right. if it took him 0 work to become the best player ever, then anyone could do it. this guy even tried blaming messi for dembeles injuries😂
Yes but basically what he’s saying is as a leader ur expected to set an example for everyone around u but since Messi has his own way of doing things along with the fact he has god given talent people try and emulate his habits but it doesn’t work out he truly is like Steph cuz everyone tryna shoot from a couple feet behind the 3 point line now tryna be the next Steph curry but they can’t because of Steph’s god given talent along with his work rate that lead him to perfect his shooting
Yes, but gift and talent also matters, Ronaldo and LeBron took all the necessary works and body maintenance to maintain peak performance, curry and Messi undoubtedly work hard too but nowhere near Ronaldo and Bron, they got much more natural talents
He's right overall Messi is a bad example for younger players but it's coaches/managers who have to check that behaviour, sense a bit of jealousy too, which manager allows that & who's dumb enough to copy Messi when they haven't accomplished what Messi has, dumb....
Messi works hard when nobody's watching. There's a point after which it can be too much. He acts casual before games to keep himself calm and carefree and you perform even better with that.
True,when u already do the math in your head,,u need silence and calm before storm.i bet Messi work double than rest and look like he didn't.theres no way,he still on top for a decade if theres no hard work.
I mean he absolutely DOMINATES football mo matter what. It is not about the gym. Tesla didn’t do sudoku to prepare for physics. Same for Leo. His core work is football and nobody has played more football than him.
That is true, its in his character but if he doesn’t work hard at all and also when nobody’s watching and he appaers actually only on traingdays and like boateng says he is doing what he does. Amazing🤩 because if you think about it he isn’t the guy that party and is simply only trains and go home back to family and off course he goes on vacation etc but simple he has a discipline lifestyle and thats about it. And because of this his “TALENT” and off course years of training makes his talent even made him more explode 🤯 😅😅😅😅😅 Messi man 😩
@@dimitri_rascolov123 Ronaldo has to work hard to be where he is, Messi is a natural baller that doesn’t have to and was notorious for not training well and still preforming
Messi works hard as well. He isn't that type who will be posting all he does on social media. It's just that he is so talented to the extent that he makes it look too easy ❤.
@@Dawgyjoehé was just that good. I heard the same story from an old PSV trainer. Warmup before CL was, checking the pitch doing some shots having a good time. Whistle came and he scored 3 goals and left. He was a 30 yo who knew his body, and that’s the difference.
in 2019 messi is a old player he has nothing to prove, doesnt need to hard train, he's an all offensive player but playmaker who cans score from everywhere in the last third outside the box and he can assist everywhere actually
Everyone handles games differently. Van Nistelrooy said when he first went to United he was surprised to see Roy Keane so calm in the dressing room just sitting down reading while the other players stretch and warm up getting ready for a game. But once Keane steps foot onto the pitch, he turns into this wild animal 🤣
@@smallface_he finished early. At 33 years old when he play with neymar you can see his fitness level already bad. Party animal. Messi although he playing in MLS today, he still the best player on his team and even mls itself
Ronaldo never ever took his foot off the gas he was never disrespectful in the locker room and went on his phone while the manager is speaking especially in big games his only focus is winning he’s not thinking abt who’s texting him and who he has to FaceTime. Ronaldo’s hard work and pure determination to win is what makes him my goat because being able to got into a whole other level of determination doesn’t only stop at football with him it also bleeds into his life when he’s doing business and building a family and being a good father and business man.
@@alessandrozito7047 Building what family? Dude ain’t even married. Meanwhile Messi married his childhood sweetheart and is raising three children with her for over 10 years. Stop making ish up.
@@dukeonwheels what does marriage have to do with raising children with a woman? Ronaldo has what like 5 kids he’s raising that’s a family buddy it’s sad that ur that much of a Messi meat rider that you have to put down another man who’s doing a great job at being a father considering his circumstances especially. All that just to make yourself feel better. Get real and get a life find some meaning in it, ur a lost person full of hate. Messi isn’t my goat but that doesn’t mean I’ll ever discredit who he is as a person and as a father I respect the hell out of him and he’s an incredible father as well. You’re inability to be mature is a scary thought. Goodluck in life my brother I wish nothing but the best for u and I genuinely hope u get healthy soon. Much love man ❤️
And Steph's. But I guess his point is Messi and Steph have abilities that hard work improved exponentially to the point it became second nature while Ronaldo and LeBron cannot take their foot off the gas. Messi and Steph have been technical marvels of legendary status. Ronaldo and LeBron more like peak athletes with world class technique.
@@mohamamdyahyaasadahmad3165Exactly this is what 🤌 it should be said all along Not a bunch of peeps saying Messi is more talented than Ronaldo or Ronaldo works harder than Messi without looking into context🥸
They aren't. What Boateng is saying is being taken out of context. His story is a very specific example of something he saw at Barcelona. Obviously the guy works hard, I think anyone that has played football at a decent level understands that part.
yeah most greats do lol and why do you have to take it as an insult? he's basically saying that steph is so great that he makes everything he does look effortless. you're too quick at defending your idol bud
@@FighterMan06the average height in the nba is 6’7, yes he is short compared to the rest of the nba ur comparing him relative to the rest of the planet
At that point. Less then an hour to the game, a warm up is important but more so is getting that mindset right, slotting into that mentality, preparing yourself for battle. Whatever anyone has to do to do that is fair game to me.
Messi works smarter than he works harder. He knows his ability fully well so he adapts it in his personal training routines. I mean this man is such a prolific dribbler and rarely gets injured through his career. Ask Neymar how easy it is with getting kicked up and down the pitch and stay disciplined. These days whenever I watch a winger trying to beat defenders and they rarely do so. He’s just not a show off about it. I describe Messi as an “enigma” because it’s just incredible how he keeps fit through all those challenges he’s faced that could have ended his career and still bounce back and still make the difference always.
@@vijay00071 obviously you must have a pretty good ball control and touch if you want to make it pro. Ronaldo also had the talents obviously his work ethic is a massive bonus. That is the most important skill in football then develop your stamina. But working smarter with your skill set will drastically improve you as a player. Not just going to gym up and treadmills. Messi did not just become a prolific free kick taker overnight. You go back to his early 20s he had about 3 free kick goals Ronaldo had about 30 something freekick goals. Currently Messi has more than Ronaldo. How do you think messi became so good at it lol? He balances out his training and masters what he’s lacking at. Just because he’s not posting on his media don’t mean he’s grinding in silence.
“Challanges” like starting at Barcelona as a child or maybe being surrounded by ballon dor top 3 consistently. The real challange definitely isnt starting out at sporting, going into the 2000’s epl as a youngster, going to a weak madrid, getting betrayed by the team that made you, all while the media attacks you at every turn. By the way the second messi faced “challanges” (leaving barca for psg) he didnt perform well and made the previous champions league semi-finalist get knocked out at the round of 16 for both years he was there, after he left psg made it to semifinals again.
That boateng guy misunderstood Messi... this life is like a four people standing in four cardinal point looking down at a letter M.. their answers will be different from one another.. 8f Messi is that lazy he won't be at the top being the only one challenging the hard worker cr7 like hee said...@@josho8436
@@camlair5018to say that Messi put in no work is just completely ignorant. Just because he doesn’t post training content on social media does not mean he doesn’t train. Obviously we know Ronaldo trains a lot more but you can’t say Messi put in no work. And even then, in the end of the day it’s about the results and Messi wins. Hard work or no hard work, still the best player by far
@@camlair5018 Messi always trains his talents and makes his skills perfect in every moment possible while Ronaldo had little bit of talent and trained to be him
I’m not a Messi fan or Lover but sometimes last year I came across old videos of people like Kaka and Ronaldinho dribbling him in International games and all and how much his game play evolved over the years and I realized that he worked has hard or even harder than Ronaldo to become so good it looks like he isn’t even trying. And that in itself is the reason why people think he’s all talent and not training, because of how effortlessly he does it and I’ve come to appreciate him now that I’m older
When you work on yourself, you learn from your mistakes or on the other hand people keep trying to prove to the world that they are the best by posting their workout on their social media. These two things are different and people will have to understand this. That's why one became a greatest of all time footballer and the other a greatest of all time RUclipsr and socialmedia.
I don't know why they insist on saying these strange ideas. They are both talented, but only the level of talent differs, and here Messi excels. They also both worked hard to become the best, but Ronaldo excelled in this aspect.
they saiid this thing because if you play football you should know...this thing is true...you bound to found atleast 1 player like Messi in your life time....i have a friend who are just pure talent base...he never had to train hard...when training he was just having fun and laugh never serious..always cut training...but when matchday he'll provide beauty for us...oh im a semi pro player..i play in 4th division in my country...well my friend isn't as good as messi but u get the idea..i stop playing football for 3 years...and i lost some of my touch and my fitness...but my friend look like he never miss a day playing.....
I also get annoyed when I see things like this. You can't be as good as Ronaldo without talent but it's just that Ronaldo works harder more than Messi to achieve what he's achieved that's all but they are both talented footballers
Exactly. Messi is one of the most talented ever in football and a great hard worker, ronaldo is greatly talented and one of the hardest workers ever in football. Different ways, both have got it all from the sport. No need to say who's better
Its true,he was the 1st one at the gym,when he was at Man U,the last one to live training field, he would practice free kicks, most Ronaldos videos that you see his busy training or training his boy,one player who visited Ronaldo said he told him lets go to the gym.if you look at Massi's videos his his with his boys & his dog.
He's right overall Messi is a bad example for younger players but it's coaches/managers who have to check that behaviour, sense a bit of jealousy too, which manager allows that & who's dumb enough to copy Messi when they haven't accomplished what Messi has, dumb....
Except it’s not bullshit as long as you don’t take it to the extreme . Obviously both worked hard and both possess extreme talent but one far more than the other
@@mzoxolombali8403so u think messi having extreme minimum body fat % and continuously improving meant he didn't work hard? i mean just because messi doesn't put photos on insta means he doesn't work hard
Some people don’t understand that talent without hard work means nothing, just because you don’t see Messi training doesn’t mean he doesn’t train, if you go back and check those other players that were once considered the “next Messi” because of their talents look where they are now, not on the level they should have been at because they didn’t put in the work, so again talent without work doesn’t get you anywhere
Best two legs ever. Liverpool went into it in incredible form, quickly silenced by Messi greatness...next leg Anfield was electric and Barca crumpled under the pressure
I read an article where someone interviewed about 30 players who played with both Messi and Ronaldo in their careers. It was remarkable to see how consistently they referred to Messi as the most gifted player they’d ever seen and Ronaldo as the hardest worker they’d ever seen.
Yeah, there's an element of next level talent about Messi. But no-one can have a long career constantly hitting top levels without hard work and insane levels of practice.
@@c0ugar43But Ronaldo really works harder,u Messi fans needs to accept.And we Ronaldo fans also need to accept that Messi also works harder and he is not all about natural.
@@aktripathi9135yeah nobody every denied it. But cr7 lacks too much in talent to compete with Messi. Messi is like a cheat code. I havent seen anything even remotely close to him. Maybe neymar or hazard
Messi works hard too ,he just doesnt post his hardwork and physique on social media everytime. Even when you are gifted ,without hardwork nothing is possible and Messi does have a great physique ,he just doenst have jacked leg or a jacked body .If you see his matches ,the way he just knocks down the defenders with his body is just perfect. You dont need a jacked body everytime ,you just need to maintain your health and have your balance. Thats what Messi do ,he maintains his health ,work hard and perform.
Ya he doesn't post but i never heard Messi 's team saying he works hard even though he works greatly he is still in good shape but he excells in talent with huge margin so it's true
@vitz..What hard work to you then?need someone in your team say 'oh he is like this,like that' than only u approved work harder?u need to flaunt ur 6pax,telling people how strict ur diet is??..nah man,Messi even work harder,his early days in La Masia,he need to catch up with other player because how weak he was.He need injection and training to be fit.He knew that he must overcome this to where he is now.Messi does the talk on field not on social media.
@@beetledune9264 well said👏🏻 But still these ronaldo fans say that he is talent Like those videos Messi= talent Ronaldo= hard work So ronaldo is the goat
@@beetledune9264 well hardwork to me is showing up everyday to the work it's more of building and being disciplined in no doubt messi worked hard cause he has to be athletic but other than that most of his feats are natural ya he doesn't posts work photos cause he doesn't work much and i never heard his teammates saying he worked hard i heard from every Ronaldos teammates the first to come last to go👍
@@Vitz7this is the funniest s**t I’ve ever heard You literally said everything else he achieved apart from staying athletic was natural and he didn’t work hard for Common man!! The extent you are going to defend your goat is not amazing but disgusting This is MESSI for crying out loud. Arguably the most successful sportsman out there
Messi is Jordan lotta people knew he would be a stud turned out to be THE stud. I like the r9 bron combo always working hard focused on being in peak shape at pretty much all times but still chasing someone else as a goat 🤷🏽♂️
R9 is a pretty terrible comparison. LeBron legacy is his longevity and performance something R9 is notorious for lacking. LeBron also never had a major injury which is the opposite of R9.
I was there for the game. Saw that free kick happen in front of me, with my wife and two boys. Bought the tickets on that day, driving from San Sebastian to Barcelona. Memories.
How is Lebron more working than steph when lebron legit has perfect height,body,genetics etc. And Steph is just good at shooting people have no clue how much work Steph puts so he is actually viable and has a advantage over the rest of the league that is way more built for the sport then him overall
Do you know that one of, if not the greatest defense in NBA history is the shortest person to ever graced the court. Muggy, and his training was a big joke compared to his capacity on court. He frustrated m.j ... So when boateng says Messi doesn't train he means training doesn't define him, something else does. Okocha, Goucho, Messi, Steph, etc these ones are ever evolving only
@@superboychaobro said Brons the hardest worker when his entire career is just being running back playing basketball. 😂 he only has a 3 point shot because teams were so unafraid of him outside the paint they didn't cover him.
@@willykillydanfulani5769yes but just because someone is making something look easy does not mean they don’t work hard Christiano is known for his hard work because of his physical and because he often shows himself training but a skill like dribbling in the game of futbol is definitely not something that can just come naturally especially the level Messi does it so I don’t think he’s lazy or does not work or train much
@@superboychaoyes but the amount of work Steph and Messi put is certainly not low or gifted if you look at the drills and amount of hard work Steph puts in order to not get injured and perfect those shots is crazy and he obviously does work harder then like 90% of the league but yeah lebron does work hard if not harder then him
People don't understand that he's warming up mentally. He's doing exactly what's recommended to increase focus (enter flow state) - giving himself small challenges that slightly push him outside his comfort zone, but not too hard to make him actively think. He's clearing his mind.
Somehow i agree with you but facetiming with simeone during the coach talk to the team is disrespectful to the players and to the team. I love Messi, but doesn't matter how good you are you can not act like that...Beyond you is the Football...Beyond you is the Club...and then you are with your teamates worse or better.
@@Gohan007 What he is saying is, Messi set a bad example on the young players. That Facetime incident before the Liverpool is just one one particular indicent. Messi is a great player, probably the greatest of all time, but it's obvious that he is lacking in leadership skills and social awareness.
Agree with you, this fake promises players, now just going from podcast to podcast, talking like experts of football, when in reality they were just ballers, but didnt understand shit about football tactics or athleticism
@@makenziestancer146 me who's been following Barça 2 decades?? You know Barça holds open training sessions once a year right? 😂 I could never listen to this guy about anything Barça related. Played like 2 games. He scored a great goal against Barça while playing for AC Milan but that's the only notable thing I can say about him when it comes to Barça
Do you have a dressing room story like Boateng? You should because you've followed Barca for 2 decades. Please tell me a story about Malcom in the dressing room@@frederickcolaire5367
Yup, the comparison is pretty terrible. LeBrons absolutely the model professional in any sport (yes, there's not a single footballer who can claim to be as professional and marketable as LeBron as a person) but he's also arguably the most physically gifted athlete in the history of basketball and maybe even professional sports as a whole. Curry's a better example of where hardwork can get you.
@@samraizshoaib585exactly bro LeBron is way more gifted and is clearly a freak of nature he is 6'9 crazy athletic and had infinite stamina he is the Messi imo
Steph is more hard work than talent but. I'd find it hard to believe that there'd be many people living today have practised 3s and dribbling more than steph
Ok, so I have an issue with people be it fans or former players like Prince here, saying that Messi is pure talent and didn’t work hard, of course he had to work hard, how else could he be the best without putting in effort… when I think of pure talents like Taarabt and Ben Arfa those guys relied purely on their talent and didn’t really get long and successful careers because they didn’t put in effort. Talent is great, but you have to work for it. It’s also the same case for Ronaldo, he had talent to be noticed by top clubs, but he also put in immense effort to sustain his talents long term. Keep this in mind: Talent gets you in, but Hard Works makes you stay there or something like that.
@@zakariaosman2384 The guy was teammates with Messi for half a year, at a stage when Messi was an older experienced player. At that stage Messi knew his job well and simply needed to play matches and ensure he did enough conditioning and recovery work to avoid injuries. He didn't see the work that Messi put in to get to that stage in the first place. The building/growing stage is a different phase of the life cycle than the maintenance stage. So, obviously young players in the building stage shouldn't act like older players in the maintenance stage. That's just common sense. Everyone would have their own personalised training programmes anyway, because you don't train a 20 year old in the same way that you train a 33 year old.
It's really interesting to see how the 2 best players of all time can be so different. Messi is a technical genius, and focuses more on precision and technique rather than strength and speed. Meanwhile, Ronaldo is a complete Athlete, and invested all of his efforts into Physicality, Speed, and Strength, but isn't very technically skilled. In my opinion, these factors are what makes people drawn to either of them. For Messi, it's seemingly his ability to be a magician with the ball and do unthinkable controls, tricks, dribbles, etc. For Ronaldo, it's his Insane Goals, His Imposing presence, his blitzing speed and his desire to score.
Ronaldo is even more talented than Messi, go and study the childhood of Messi, he wasn't even ok to be a footballer, he developed himself and right now, he is the best.
I can name atleast 10 players who were just as gifted as messi if not more than him. They will sell their kidney to have half a career messi has had thus far
@TrevorPhillips- I can't name 10, but Bojan Krkic was thought to be as talented as Messi as a young player, and broke his goalscoring records in the Barca youth and Barca B teams. However, he struggled with depression and didn't reach his full potential in the men's game. He's still got an incredible highlights reel though.
@TrevorPhillips- that is true. i do not know any other player who took growth hormones besides messi. and everyone is okay with it. i think its cheating
@TrevorPhillips- that is true. i do not know any other player who took growth hormones besides messi. and everyone is okay with it. i think its cheating
@TrevorPhillips- that is true. i do not know any other player who took growth hormones besides messi. and everyone is okay with it. i think its cheating
Messi’s true gift is above the shoulders. Nobody outside of maybe Cruyff has seen the game like him. It looks so easy because Messi has all the answers before the rest even know what the question is.
I am basically like Messi I don’t study for exams but I score higher than my classmates who study because of this back then my sister also decided not to study but unfortunately she didn’t pass her exam she tried multiple times but she still failed I remember we had exams my mom told my sister to study but she was like I was not studying so it was not fair that I did not get to study but my mom pointed out all the times I did not study but passed my exams but her on the under hand always failed her exams if she did not study and my mom was like I am basically special and don’t need to study that much which I agree with her .
Blaming Messi for Malcom and Dembele's ghetto attitude. Why am i not surprised. Ronaldo works damn hard, why didn't that rub off Pogba, Martial, Lingard and Rashford? You can't take away ghetto attitude.
@@stephenpfeiffer1708 Reality = You can't handle the truth especially when it's already been played out (There is already a conclusion = Effort, hard work and skill). I guess normal for someone like you who has never worked for anything to claim racism all the time. Just look at all the comments in the video.
Cause ronaldo himself is the first coming to training and the last one going home. Thats why you cant blame him, he does his thing, cant blame him for that😂
@@Antonyprime2011Because song that one player set a bad example of how to warm up during a match, when you know they have trainers around prepping the warm ups in the stadium, is silly.
Other players said that he is first on every training session, doing all the hard work, it’s just an image that went through social media that he is not extremely hard working
Those who say he doesn't work should know he had growing issues when younger and in the national team was sooo much questioned he continued standing , cried all the times we lost and still stood up again .. his lesson is even if you have everything , is you want something go for it and fight. Look at his last match in cup america agains colombia and silence . He cried his heart out for not being able to continue, he , a man who doesn't need to prove anything , who could stop playing as he has everything , he cried like a kid . Never surrender . No need to compare him to ronaldo or anyone else .each of them have their own methods and stories .different , not better than anyone.
@@Seth_rsNobody works as hard as Ronaldo. His every team mate said so. Ofcourse Messi is better but Ronaldo is a machine. Look at Ronaldo injury record as compare to Messi even with 3 years older.
They always assume. Some players choose to work extremely hard away from all of the eyes, when no one is watching… That’s what Messi does and has done. You can also read about his special training sessions away from the team online. He had special (mainly physical) training and stretching sessions with special trainers that designed it specifically for his needs due to his growth hormone situation and surgeries. It caused him to grow in a very unique way with a unique build. He definitely does all of those little things more than the average player, otherwise his career would have been riddled with injuries…
I also heard team mates saying they didn't see Messi at all during training sessions. Obviously, especially at big clubs, you should have extreme dedication and responsibility. If you decide not to train, on the bench. If your attitude is not about hard working, you're out. However! Messi's challenge was not to develop certain skills like dribbling or the awareness of people around him. His main challenge was simply having no injuries. So while others were training hard, he was being treated medically to prevent these injuries. And what people forget if you're Messi, you're outplaying everyone, normally defenders simply push you around, grab your shirt....With him he seemed to slip away under their feet. So the only way to stop him sometimes would be an outages sliding or a kick on the ankles. I mean, everyone remembers Pepe?" Imagine being so desperate you can only even touch him when he's down and step on his hand??
Boateng is so dumb that even playing with Messi wasn’t enough to make him understand the greatness of Messi. You can’t be the best in the world for 20 years straight like Messi without being an hard work athlete. Messi made these things look easy but they aren’t, behind his standards there’s a lot of hard work.
As a CR7 fan I gotta say, CR7 works harder, but Messi works way smarter than harder, and that's what took him to be the successful player he has always been.
people really discrediting messis n stephs hardwork just because they have cultivated their talents through their youth. like yeah they have talent but so does every pro footballer, they still work incredibly hard even if it is not visible
i don't believe you can play football at the highest level for 20 years at that level without working hard. he is absolutely gifted the best gifts ever. he's an absolute baller so his game isn't based off athletic abilities, like jumping, ya know... others i guess have to do more to keep their highest level but but this man has played around 1100 games in his career, some of the best athletes in football retire playing half that number
This exact mentality is what makes a legend different from normal players. Saying Messi is gifted and doesn’t do or need any hardwork is such a disrespect. He doesn’t need to boast his hardwork in front of everyone… you see the result of his hardwork and call it magic!!
Oh, yeah. Curry shows up early all the time, practices and practices, and works out. Sure, both superbly gifted, but mind you, they both began honing their skills very early and keep on doing so
Ronaldo: talent and extreme hard work Messi: extreme talent and hard work it's just that simple Messi is an extremely talented footballer, you can try to work 100 times harder than him and you still ain't gonna touch him
Talent without hardwork is nothing no matter how much talent you've got no matter how insane and natural you do at something but you have to work so hard to make all the gift/talents you got to keep improve,same sh*t like no matter how much hardwork you've been through at learning something you need to remember every person have a limit in his own body,sometimes hardwork can be define as a talent to, because not everyone could train so hard to achieve something.
- Let's say you have a talent and you're not working on it do you think you can be the best player compare to the others who put so much effort of doing something?
Among hundred thousands of football player,the one who get signed into a professional club can be consider as a big talent too,look how many promising young talents in the past failed at the age of 23,24,25 also before 30,this thing happened not only because of the injuries or just lack of motivation but you can considered for being not hardwork enough.
If you are a professional football player, and your reaction to seeing the best player in the world not working hard in practice, is to not work hard in practice yourself, your issue is that you overestimate your abilities and talent.
Messi always trained. He just didn’t always train with the others. I think it comes from worrying about picking up injuries on the training pitch. It’s a big concern with a player that important
It is impossible for someone who is “born talented” to reach the level of success that Messi has without working hard. Just because someone makes it look easy, doesn’t mean that the person had it easy.
Look at training videos, Messi works like a beast. It is BECAUSE he has trained so much he can be comfortable and relaxed during warm ups and in the locker room.
The real question to messi that no reporter has ever asked is ' is your tallent god gifted or its your hard work '. People think god gifted because they havent seen him practicing football from his babyhood.
Messi changed his ways after that defeat to Liverpool. It made him realize that he's been a poor captain. If you notice since then, he's been taking a far more proactive role in mentoring younger players and setting a good example. Without that 4-0 loss at Anfield, I don't think Messi wins Copa America 2021 or the 2022 World Cup.
Making something look easy doesn’t mean they dont work hard
That's what I'm saying. People say that because Ronaldo's physique makes him look like he is working much harder than Messi but nobody is born knowing how to play football. Messi still had to work extremely hard but in a different way without relying on his physique that's all. Still takes time, dedication and effort to become the best. Really annoying when people say that as it takes all credit away from the greats that do work hard behind the scenes.
@@thisisarmando8393some are natural at it..
@@haominlunlhouvum5174 HE MAKES IT LOOK NATURAL... That's what you mean to say. Like I said nobody is born knowing how to play football, it takes a lot of practice to become great at something.
@@thisisarmando8393right. if it took him 0 work to become the best player ever, then anyone could do it. this guy even tried blaming messi for dembeles injuries😂
Yes but basically what he’s saying is as a leader ur expected to set an example for everyone around u but since Messi has his own way of doing things along with the fact he has god given talent people try and emulate his habits but it doesn’t work out he truly is like Steph cuz everyone tryna shoot from a couple feet behind the 3 point line now tryna be the next Steph curry but they can’t because of Steph’s god given talent along with his work rate that lead him to perfect his shooting
It's delusional to think one can be this successful FOR THAT LONG, without working hard. No matter how talented one may be.
Yes, but gift and talent also matters, Ronaldo and LeBron took all the necessary works and body maintenance to maintain peak performance, curry and Messi undoubtedly work hard too but nowhere near Ronaldo and Bron, they got much more natural talents
Messi was born with it man, of course he did put some work but not much
Tell that to Allen Iverson
He's right overall Messi is a bad example for younger players but it's coaches/managers who have to check that behaviour, sense a bit of jealousy too, which manager allows that & who's dumb enough to copy Messi when they haven't accomplished what Messi has, dumb....
You guys really need to work on your comprehension skills.
Messi works hard when nobody's watching.
There's a point after which it can be too much. He acts casual before games to keep himself calm and carefree and you perform even better with that.
True,when u already do the math in your head,,u need silence and calm before storm.i bet Messi work double than rest and look like he didn't.theres no way,he still on top for a decade if theres no hard work.
I mean he absolutely DOMINATES football mo matter what. It is not about the gym. Tesla didn’t do sudoku to prepare for physics. Same for Leo. His core work is football and nobody has played more football than him.
That is true, its in his character but if he doesn’t work hard at all and also when nobody’s watching and he appaers actually only on traingdays and like boateng says he is doing what he does. Amazing🤩 because if you think about it he isn’t the guy that party and is simply only trains and go home back to family and off course he goes on vacation etc but simple he has a discipline lifestyle and thats about it. And because of this his “TALENT” and off course years of training makes his talent even made him more explode 🤯 😅😅😅😅😅 Messi man 😩
talking like you know him
Exactly!!! Anyone who downplays him and says he doesn’t work hard is crazy.
never let bro do football talks again
You just don’t get it, he is praising Messi
@@rickflose he's not
if messi didn't work hard he won't have 8 ballon d'or and 6 golden boots and a world cup
@@dimitri_rascolov123 Ronaldo has to work hard to be where he is, Messi is a natural baller that doesn’t have to and was notorious for not training well and still preforming
@@rickflose 0 ball knowledge
@@batuhancetin3009 come back to this when you get a little older
Messi works hard as well. He isn't that type who will be posting all he does on social media.
It's just that he is so talented to the extent that he makes it look too easy ❤.
He talked about the training grounds of barca, why are you delusional 😂
@@HalaMadridParaSiempre working hard at training is subjective. He still works hard mentally 🧠
@@Dawgyjoehé was just that good. I heard the same story from an old PSV trainer. Warmup before CL was, checking the pitch doing some shots having a good time. Whistle came and he scored 3 goals and left. He was a 30 yo who knew his body, and that’s the difference.
in 2019 messi is a old player he has nothing to prove, doesnt need to hard train, he's an all offensive player but playmaker who cans score from everywhere in the last third outside the box and he can assist everywhere actually
Everyone handles games differently. Van Nistelrooy said when he first went to United he was surprised to see Roy Keane so calm in the dressing room just sitting down reading while the other players stretch and warm up getting ready for a game. But once Keane steps foot onto the pitch, he turns into this wild animal 🤣
Love this, Keano was a different breed
That is the funniest thing ever.
Mike Tyson with his tiny pet birds
Keane hate losing, I think that is why some time he just said what is on his mine and don't care.
Pirlo was playing Playstation before the WC final.
Steph works so hard people dont understand
Exactly
All 4 he mentioned work very hard, its just that Messi and Curry have that extra gift that they dont need to compensate with hard work
I think they do
But curry is nowhere near lebron
@@alexmax38263-1 against bron
He’s confused. Someone with a gift that doesn’t work hard and you get ronaldinho
😅😅😅
Exactly, many players have the talent but not the work ethic.
What are you talking about bro, Ronaldinho was the best in his time until Messi came along
@@smallface_he finished early. At 33 years old when he play with neymar you can see his fitness level already bad. Party animal. Messi although he playing in MLS today, he still the best player on his team and even mls itself
You dont get ronaldinho you get ben arfa or quaresma or balotelli
When hard work is beyond imagination people simply call it a gift. 🙌
Grace
Bro had already put in hours. He had masterd the things he needed. Saying he hasn't worked hard in his life is disrespectful.
Ronaldo never ever took his foot off the gas he was never disrespectful in the locker room and went on his phone while the manager is speaking especially in big games his only focus is winning he’s not thinking abt who’s texting him and who he has to FaceTime. Ronaldo’s hard work and pure determination to win is what makes him my goat because being able to got into a whole other level of determination doesn’t only stop at football with him it also bleeds into his life when he’s doing business and building a family and being a good father and business man.
@@alessandrozito7047 Building what family? Dude ain’t even married. Meanwhile Messi married his childhood sweetheart and is raising three children with her for over 10 years. Stop making ish up.
@@dukeonwheels what does marriage have to do with raising children with a woman? Ronaldo has what like 5 kids he’s raising that’s a family buddy it’s sad that ur that much of a Messi meat rider that you have to put down another man who’s doing a great job at being a father considering his circumstances especially. All that just to make yourself feel better. Get real and get a life find some meaning in it, ur a lost person full of hate. Messi isn’t my goat but that doesn’t mean I’ll ever discredit who he is as a person and as a father I respect the hell out of him and he’s an incredible father as well. You’re inability to be mature is a scary thought. Goodluck in life my brother I wish nothing but the best for u and I genuinely hope u get healthy soon. Much love man ❤️
Have you seen his childhood videos? Bro's was the same back then
Who said he didn't work hard? You've misunderstood the point of the story.
they’re discrediting messi’s hardwork
And Steph's. But I guess his point is Messi and Steph have abilities that hard work improved exponentially to the point it became second nature while Ronaldo and LeBron cannot take their foot off the gas. Messi and Steph have been technical marvels of legendary status. Ronaldo and LeBron more like peak athletes with world class technique.
@@mohamamdyahyaasadahmad3165Exactly this is what 🤌 it should be said all along
Not a bunch of peeps saying Messi is more talented than Ronaldo or Ronaldo works harder than Messi without looking into context🥸
They aren't. What Boateng is saying is being taken out of context. His story is a very specific example of something he saw at Barcelona. Obviously the guy works hard, I think anyone that has played football at a decent level understands that part.
No he’s describing Messi’s influence to young players
U missed the word comparasion fanboys
steph is a workaholic bro, he put in a lotta work to be able to compete with his size
yeah most greats do lol and why do you have to take it as an insult? he's basically saying that steph is so great that he makes everything he does look effortless. you're too quick at defending your idol bud
@@lol-qy9swur a weirdo
Bro you're talking about stephen curry like he was 5 feet tall XD
@@FighterMan06He is 6ft3 Whichbis quite tall
@@FighterMan06the average height in the nba is 6’7, yes he is short compared to the rest of the nba ur comparing him relative to the rest of the planet
Messi is extremely hard working. You don’t get to be the best during 15 years in a row every year without working hard.
At that point. Less then an hour to the game, a warm up is important but more so is getting that mindset right, slotting into that mentality, preparing yourself for battle. Whatever anyone has to do to do that is fair game to me.
Messi works smarter than he works harder. He knows his ability fully well so he adapts it in his personal training routines. I mean this man is such a prolific dribbler and rarely gets injured through his career. Ask Neymar how easy it is with getting kicked up and down the pitch and stay disciplined. These days whenever I watch a winger trying to beat defenders and they rarely do so. He’s just not a show off about it. I describe Messi as an “enigma” because it’s just incredible how he keeps fit through all those challenges he’s faced that could have ended his career and still bounce back and still make the difference always.
Messi defo works smart.. 💯💎💯
That only works for goats if the game. If young players think they can smart work their way to become Messi then they're deluded
@@vijay00071 obviously you must have a pretty good ball control and touch if you want to make it pro. Ronaldo also had the talents obviously his work ethic is a massive bonus. That is the most important skill in football then develop your stamina. But working smarter with your skill set will drastically improve you as a player. Not just going to gym up and treadmills. Messi did not just become a prolific free kick taker overnight. You go back to his early 20s he had about 3 free kick goals Ronaldo had about 30 something freekick goals. Currently Messi has more than Ronaldo. How do you think messi became so good at it lol? He balances out his training and masters what he’s lacking at. Just because he’s not posting on his media don’t mean he’s grinding in silence.
“Challanges” like starting at Barcelona as a child or maybe being surrounded by ballon dor top 3 consistently. The real challange definitely isnt starting out at sporting, going into the 2000’s epl as a youngster, going to a weak madrid, getting betrayed by the team that made you, all while the media attacks you at every turn. By the way the second messi faced “challanges” (leaving barca for psg) he didnt perform well and made the previous champions league semi-finalist get knocked out at the round of 16 for both years he was there, after he left psg made it to semifinals again.
That boateng guy misunderstood Messi... this life is like a four people standing in four cardinal point looking down at a letter M.. their answers will be different from one another.. 8f Messi is that lazy he won't be at the top being the only one challenging the hard worker cr7 like hee said...@@josho8436
There is no way a player can be this consistent without hardwork and discipline. He might not be working as hard as CR7 but I think he does work hard.
Messi doesn’t post his training and gym work on social media
@@samuelkoomson6017 and ronaldo doesn't rob others like him
and eat junk food openly like ronaldo
@@sweetcjcj8503 we know who tried to rob a goal from his team mate😂
He works hard goofy
@@sweetcjcj8503 Rob 😂😂😂
That's True, that's why you see people like vini who obviously idolised Cristiano while he himself said that he prefers Messi as a player ❤😂
Messi put in no work he was just gifted. Ronaldo is all work and never stops. He is in way better shape then Messi also
@@camlair5018to say that Messi put in no work is just completely ignorant. Just because he doesn’t post training content on social media does not mean he doesn’t train. Obviously we know Ronaldo trains a lot more but you can’t say Messi put in no work. And even then, in the end of the day it’s about the results and Messi wins. Hard work or no hard work, still the best player by far
@efe545 it's so stupid bro , these guys just think messi woke up one day and then boom ! He became the GOAT
@@camlair5018such ignorance. Also they are looking at Messi when he is a more veteran player, when he was younger he would have put the hard yards in.
@@camlair5018 Messi always trains his talents and makes his skills perfect in every moment possible while Ronaldo had little bit of talent and trained to be him
I’m not a Messi fan or Lover but sometimes last year I came across old videos of people like Kaka and Ronaldinho dribbling him in International games and all and how much his game play evolved over the years and I realized that he worked has hard or even harder than Ronaldo to become so good it looks like he isn’t even trying. And that in itself is the reason why people think he’s all talent and not training, because of how effortlessly he does it and I’ve come to appreciate him now that I’m older
When you work on yourself, you learn from your mistakes or on the other hand people keep trying to prove to the world that they are the best by posting their workout on their social media.
These two things are different and people will have to understand this.
That's why one became a greatest of all time footballer and the other a greatest of all time RUclipsr and socialmedia.
Liverpool ruined Barca still to this day
I don't know why they insist on saying these strange ideas. They are both talented, but only the level of talent differs, and here Messi excels. They also both worked hard to become the best, but Ronaldo excelled in this aspect.
they saiid this thing because if you play football you should know...this thing is true...you bound to found atleast 1 player like Messi in your life time....i have a friend who are just pure talent base...he never had to train hard...when training he was just having fun and laugh never serious..always cut training...but when matchday he'll provide beauty for us...oh im a semi pro player..i play in 4th division in my country...well my friend isn't as good as messi but u get the idea..i stop playing football for 3 years...and i lost some of my touch and my fitness...but my friend look like he never miss a day playing.....
I also get annoyed when I see things like this. You can't be as good as Ronaldo without talent but it's just that Ronaldo works harder more than Messi to achieve what he's achieved that's all but they are both talented footballers
Exactly.
Messi is one of the most talented ever in football and a great hard worker, ronaldo is greatly talented and one of the hardest workers ever in football.
Different ways, both have got it all from the sport.
No need to say who's better
yes, well said
Read your bible! (KJV, preferably) ❤😊🎉
Whenever someone throws the Ronaldo = hard work, Messi = talent argument you know they're talking absolute shit
Its true,he was the 1st one at the gym,when he was at Man U,the last one to live training field, he would practice free kicks, most Ronaldos videos that you see his busy training or training his boy,one player who visited Ronaldo said he told him lets go to the gym.if you look at Massi's videos his his with his boys & his dog.
Prince even says that Messi is doing crossbar challenge before the match.. but you don't want to believe
He's right overall Messi is a bad example for younger players but it's coaches/managers who have to check that behaviour, sense a bit of jealousy too, which manager allows that & who's dumb enough to copy Messi when they haven't accomplished what Messi has, dumb....
Except it’s not bullshit as long as you don’t take it to the extreme . Obviously both worked hard and both possess extreme talent but one far more than the other
@@mzoxolombali8403so u think messi having extreme minimum body fat % and continuously improving meant he didn't work hard?
i mean just because messi doesn't put photos on insta means he doesn't work hard
Some people don’t understand that talent without hard work means nothing, just because you don’t see Messi training doesn’t mean he doesn’t train, if you go back and check those other players that were once considered the “next Messi” because of their talents look where they are now, not on the level they should have been at because they didn’t put in the work, so again talent without work doesn’t get you anywhere
K.P.B doing facial impressions that always go with the story 😅
Best two legs ever. Liverpool went into it in incredible form, quickly silenced by Messi greatness...next leg Anfield was electric and Barca crumpled under the pressure
I read an article where someone interviewed about 30 players who played with both Messi and Ronaldo in their careers. It was remarkable to see how consistently they referred to Messi as the most gifted player they’d ever seen and Ronaldo as the hardest worker they’d ever seen.
Yeah, there's an element of next level talent about Messi. But no-one can have a long career constantly hitting top levels without hard work and insane levels of practice.
@@c0ugar43But Ronaldo really works harder,u Messi fans needs to accept.And we Ronaldo fans also need to accept that Messi also works harder and he is not all about natural.
Read your bible! (KJV, preferably) ❤😊🎉
@@aktripathi9135& u ronaldo fans have to accept, messi is the best player in history
@@aktripathi9135yeah nobody every denied it. But cr7 lacks too much in talent to compete with Messi. Messi is like a cheat code. I havent seen anything even remotely close to him. Maybe neymar or hazard
Messi works hard too ,he just doesnt post his hardwork and physique on social media everytime. Even when you are gifted ,without hardwork nothing is possible and Messi does have a great physique ,he just doenst have jacked leg or a jacked body .If you see his matches ,the way he just knocks down the defenders with his body is just perfect. You dont need a jacked body everytime ,you just need to maintain your health and have your balance. Thats what Messi do ,he maintains his health ,work hard and perform.
Ya he doesn't post but i never heard Messi 's team saying he works hard even though he works greatly he is still in good shape but he excells in talent with huge margin so it's true
@vitz..What hard work to you then?need someone in your team say 'oh he is like this,like that' than only u approved work harder?u need to flaunt ur 6pax,telling people how strict ur diet is??..nah man,Messi even work harder,his early days in La Masia,he need to catch up with other player because how weak he was.He need injection and training to be fit.He knew that he must overcome this to where he is now.Messi does the talk on field not on social media.
@@beetledune9264 well said👏🏻
But still these ronaldo fans say that he is talent
Like those videos
Messi= talent
Ronaldo= hard work
So ronaldo is the goat
@@beetledune9264 well hardwork to me is showing up everyday to the work it's more of building and being disciplined in no doubt messi worked hard cause he has to be athletic but other than that most of his feats are natural ya he doesn't posts work photos cause he doesn't work much and i never heard his teammates saying he worked hard i heard from every Ronaldos teammates the first to come last to go👍
@@Vitz7this is the funniest s**t I’ve ever heard
You literally said everything else he achieved apart from staying athletic was natural and he didn’t work hard for
Common man!!
The extent you are going to defend your goat is not amazing but disgusting
This is MESSI for crying out loud. Arguably the most successful sportsman out there
Messi is Jordan lotta people knew he would be a stud turned out to be THE stud. I like the r9 bron combo always working hard focused on being in peak shape at pretty much all times but still chasing someone else as a goat 🤷🏽♂️
R9 is a pretty terrible comparison. LeBron legacy is his longevity and performance something R9 is notorious for lacking. LeBron also never had a major injury which is the opposite of R9.
@@samraizshoaib585 you are right i put R9 but meant R7 tbh so in that case you are 1000000% correct terrible comparison by me 😭😭
I was there for the game. Saw that free kick happen in front of me, with my wife and two boys. Bought the tickets on that day, driving from San Sebastian to Barcelona. Memories.
Nice comparison 👌
How is Lebron more working than steph when lebron legit has perfect height,body,genetics etc. And Steph is just good at shooting people have no clue how much work Steph puts so he is actually viable and has a advantage over the rest of the league that is way more built for the sport then him overall
LeBron basically has more working than any one in the history of the league who ever played
Do you know that one of, if not the greatest defense in NBA history is the shortest person to ever graced the court. Muggy, and his training was a big joke compared to his capacity on court. He frustrated m.j ... So when boateng says Messi doesn't train he means training doesn't define him, something else does. Okocha, Goucho, Messi, Steph, etc these ones are ever evolving only
@@superboychaobro said Brons the hardest worker when his entire career is just being running back playing basketball. 😂 he only has a 3 point shot because teams were so unafraid of him outside the paint they didn't cover him.
@@willykillydanfulani5769yes but just because someone is making something look easy does not mean they don’t work hard Christiano is known for his hard work because of his physical and because he often shows himself training but a skill like dribbling in the game of futbol is definitely not something that can just come naturally especially the level Messi does it so I don’t think he’s lazy or does not work or train much
@@superboychaoyes but the amount of work Steph and Messi put is certainly not low or gifted if you look at the drills and amount of hard work Steph puts in order to not get injured and perfect those shots is crazy and he obviously does work harder then like 90% of the league but yeah lebron does work hard if not harder then him
People don't understand that he's warming up mentally. He's doing exactly what's recommended to increase focus (enter flow state) - giving himself small challenges that slightly push him outside his comfort zone, but not too hard to make him actively think. He's clearing his mind.
😂😂😂😂😂
Absolutely 💯
Somehow i agree with you but facetiming with simeone during the coach talk to the team is disrespectful to the players and to the team. I love Messi, but doesn't matter how good you are you can not act like that...Beyond you is the Football...Beyond you is the Club...and then you are with your teamates worse or better.
@@simeonrachev7781That's true, in general, but frankly we don't know why he facetimed and for how long, we just know that he did.
@@Gohan007 What he is saying is, Messi set a bad example on the young players. That Facetime incident before the Liverpool is just one one particular indicent. Messi is a great player, probably the greatest of all time, but it's obvious that he is lacking in leadership skills and social awareness.
This guy was barely there for half a season. Talking about Malcom and Dembele like Barça youth products
Sounds like he has half a season more knowledge than you do
@@makenziestancer146haha real 😂😂
Agree with you, this fake promises players, now just going from podcast to podcast, talking like experts of football, when in reality they were just ballers, but didnt understand shit about football tactics or athleticism
@@makenziestancer146 me who's been following Barça 2 decades?? You know Barça holds open training sessions once a year right? 😂 I could never listen to this guy about anything Barça related. Played like 2 games. He scored a great goal against Barça while playing for AC Milan but that's the only notable thing I can say about him when it comes to Barça
Do you have a dressing room story like Boateng? You should because you've followed Barca for 2 decades. Please tell me a story about Malcom in the dressing room@@frederickcolaire5367
Il più grande giocatore che la storia del calcio ci abbia mai regalato. Semplicemente UNICO MESSI 🐐🏆🇦🇷
Messi’s training at home all the time. That’s what people forget. He already warmed up before he enters the stadium
I get what he's saying, but from wht i heard, Curry is one of the hardest workers too. Messi is just a freak🤣
Yup, the comparison is pretty terrible. LeBrons absolutely the model professional in any sport (yes, there's not a single footballer who can claim to be as professional and marketable as LeBron as a person) but he's also arguably the most physically gifted athlete in the history of basketball and maybe even professional sports as a whole.
Curry's a better example of where hardwork can get you.
@@samraizshoaib585exactly bro LeBron is way more gifted and is clearly a freak of nature he is 6'9 crazy athletic and had infinite stamina he is the Messi imo
Who’s gonna tell him that Messi works hard too 😭
Yes Ronaldo has talent Messi works hard but Ronaldo exceedes extremely in hard work and the same goes for Messi but instead he exceeds in talent
he know messi more than u kid
@@awox1835 what did bro do 💀
He did play with messi on the same time. So he kinda know better than you.
He did say messi the only one can do it. He is not wrong
He literally played with him.
Steph is much more skill than talent, LeBron is much more talented when it comes to his body, endurance and field vision.
Steph is more hard work than talent but. I'd find it hard to believe that there'd be many people living today have practised 3s and dribbling more than steph
And then he lost a 3-0 lead to do nothing in the champion's league. Again.
Thanks for the music 😊
Becuase Messi has already put in the hours
Ok, so I have an issue with people be it fans or former players like Prince here, saying that Messi is pure talent and didn’t work hard, of course he had to work hard, how else could he be the best without putting in effort… when I think of pure talents like Taarabt and Ben Arfa those guys relied purely on their talent and didn’t really get long and successful careers because they didn’t put in effort.
Talent is great, but you have to work for it.
It’s also the same case for Ronaldo, he had talent to be noticed by top clubs, but he also put in immense effort to sustain his talents long term.
Keep this in mind: Talent gets you in, but Hard Works makes you stay there or something like that.
This guy literally was teammates with him and just told I seen Messi do the bare minimum and also says he just that good he just didn’t have to
@@zakariaosman2384 The guy was teammates with Messi for half a year, at a stage when Messi was an older experienced player. At that stage Messi knew his job well and simply needed to play matches and ensure he did enough conditioning and recovery work to avoid injuries. He didn't see the work that Messi put in to get to that stage in the first place.
The building/growing stage is a different phase of the life cycle than the maintenance stage. So, obviously young players in the building stage shouldn't act like older players in the maintenance stage. That's just common sense. Everyone would have their own personalised training programmes anyway, because you don't train a 20 year old in the same way that you train a 33 year old.
Both have special talent and both work hard. End of story.
but only one of them took growth hormones
What does it mean with only one take grown hormon?so If CR7 took it,he will be same level as Messi?.hahaha
It's pretty embarrassing for Ronaldo not to be better than a guy who used growth hormones@@bagavondo2477
It's pretty embarrassing for Ronaldo not to be better than a guy who used growth hormones@@bagavondo2477
Average ronaldo fan when they start losing the messi vs ronaldo debate
Hahahah…what a joke😂😂crying like ur pessi😂😂
@@dugjumgaming3077 ok but Messi won after crying but I don't think it was the same for ronaldo.
@@ramdevishukal931 no one gives a fck abt world cup…so many plyers hv won that trophy but no one has scre 900 goals yet…soon he will reach 1000 goals…
@@dugjumgaming3077 Messi has a better goal per match average son .
@@dugjumgaming3077 You can't be serious bro 🤦♂️🤦♂️
It's really interesting to see how the 2 best players of all time can be so different.
Messi is a technical genius, and focuses more on precision and technique rather than strength and speed.
Meanwhile, Ronaldo is a complete Athlete, and invested all of his efforts into Physicality, Speed, and Strength, but isn't very technically skilled.
In my opinion, these factors are what makes people drawn to either of them. For Messi, it's seemingly his ability to be a magician with the ball and do unthinkable controls, tricks, dribbles, etc.
For Ronaldo, it's his Insane Goals, His Imposing presence, his blitzing speed and his desire to score.
Saying Messi is just talent is pure disrespect
Obviously he worked hard but you can’t deny what makes him special is his god gifted talent
@@Kw023 yes he is gifted but if that was purely the reason then just about every Brazilian Street kid would be a star rn
Ronaldo is even more talented than Messi, go and study the childhood of Messi, he wasn't even ok to be a footballer, he developed himself and right now, he is the best.
@@sadohpeter5554the delusional is real
He was recruited to barcelona as a 13 year old... id say he was ok@@sadohpeter5554
Anyone who thinks that guys like Messi and curry get to the point they’re without hard work is either uninformed or straight up lying
I can name atleast 10 players who were just as gifted as messi if not more than him. They will sell their kidney to have half a career messi has had thus far
did you know that messi took growth hormones? i guess cheating does pay off
@TrevorPhillips- I can't name 10, but Bojan Krkic was thought to be as talented as Messi as a young player, and broke his goalscoring records in the Barca youth and Barca B teams. However, he struggled with depression and didn't reach his full potential in the men's game. He's still got an incredible highlights reel though.
@TrevorPhillips- that is true. i do not know any other player who took growth hormones besides messi. and everyone is okay with it. i think its cheating
@TrevorPhillips- that is true. i do not know any other player who took growth hormones besides messi. and everyone is okay with it. i think its cheating
@TrevorPhillips- that is true. i do not know any other player who took growth hormones besides messi. and everyone is okay with it. i think its cheating
Messi’s true gift is above the shoulders. Nobody outside of maybe Cruyff has seen the game like him. It looks so easy because Messi has all the answers before the rest even know what the question is.
I am basically like Messi I don’t study for exams but I score higher than my classmates who study because of this back then my sister also decided not to study but unfortunately she didn’t pass her exam she tried multiple times but she still failed I remember we had exams my mom told my sister to study but she was like I was not studying so it was not fair that I did not get to study but my mom pointed out all the times I did not study but passed my exams but her on the under hand always failed her exams if she did not study and my mom was like I am basically special and don’t need to study that much which I agree with her .
Blaming Messi for Malcom and Dembele's ghetto attitude. Why am i not surprised. Ronaldo works damn hard, why didn't that rub off Pogba, Martial, Lingard and Rashford? You can't take away ghetto attitude.
Racist af
@@stephenpfeiffer1708 Reality = You can't handle the truth especially when it's already been played out (There is already a conclusion = Effort, hard work and skill). I guess normal for someone like you who has never worked for anything to claim racism all the time. Just look at all the comments in the video.
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Your comment was racially motivated, and you're dumb enough to think ppl wouldn't notice 😂
Cause ronaldo himself is the first coming to training and the last one going home. Thats why you cant blame him, he does his thing, cant blame him for that😂
Malcolm was good for Barcelona to be honest .
This is the most ridiculous thing I've heard
The truth is hard for some people
@@Antonyprime2011 And lies are easy to spread
@@estebanrivera4786 how u wanna know better than a former Team mate of messi
@@Antonyprime2011Because song that one player set a bad example of how to warm up during a match, when you know they have trainers around prepping the warm ups in the stadium, is silly.
@@Antonyprime2011ronaldo posts it online to gain publicity, that's the only difference. And besides, how many seasons he played with him exactly?
Other players said that he is first on every training session, doing all the hard work, it’s just an image that went through social media that he is not extremely hard working
Those who say he doesn't work should know he had growing issues when younger and in the national team was sooo much questioned he continued standing , cried all the times we lost and still stood up again .. his lesson is even if you have everything , is you want something go for it and fight. Look at his last match in cup america agains colombia and silence . He cried his heart out for not being able to continue, he , a man who doesn't need to prove anything , who could stop playing as he has everything , he cried like a kid . Never surrender . No need to compare him to ronaldo or anyone else .each of them have their own methods and stories .different , not better than anyone.
Talent is nothing without hard work
talent is superior than hard work
Messi works as hard as ronaldo or anyone, think about it, how come a player that gets hit so much every game keeps injury free
@@Seth_rsNobody works as hard as Ronaldo. His every team mate said so. Ofcourse Messi is better but Ronaldo is a machine. Look at Ronaldo injury record as compare to Messi even with 3 years older.
So is hgh
taking growth hormones is superior
Remind me again who went onto the next round in that tournament
Oh so I guess we’re not gonna talk about the second leg where they lost 4-0 and Messi ghosted huh💀💀💀
Barcelona staff knows messi trains at home with his personal trainer all week! The other kids shouldnt compare to messi...
They always assume.
Some players choose to work extremely hard away from all of the eyes, when no one is watching…
That’s what Messi does and has done.
You can also read about his special training sessions away from the team online.
He had special (mainly physical) training and stretching sessions with special trainers that designed it specifically for his needs due to his growth hormone situation and surgeries.
It caused him to grow in a very unique way with a unique build.
He definitely does all of those little things more than the average player, otherwise his career would have been riddled with injuries…
It's not about blaming others,its about train yourself to be better in anyway
100% reality 😊
How dump he is...
Messi also works hard. Talent without hardwork is nothing. He just don't post or share his effort in media like penaldo does.
I also heard team mates saying they didn't see Messi at all during training sessions. Obviously, especially at big clubs, you should have extreme dedication and responsibility. If you decide not to train, on the bench. If your attitude is not about hard working, you're out.
However!
Messi's challenge was not to develop certain skills like dribbling or the awareness of people around him. His main challenge was simply having no injuries. So while others were training hard, he was being treated medically to prevent these injuries.
And what people forget if you're Messi, you're outplaying everyone, normally defenders simply push you around, grab your shirt....With him he seemed to slip away under their feet. So the only way to stop him sometimes would be an outages sliding or a kick on the ankles. I mean, everyone remembers Pepe?" Imagine being so desperate you can only even touch him when he's down and step on his hand??
Even in a 1000 years you can't out win talent ❤❤❤❤❤
Boateng is so dumb that even playing with Messi wasn’t enough to make him understand the greatness of Messi.
You can’t be the best in the world for 20 years straight like Messi without being an hard work athlete.
Messi made these things look easy but they aren’t, behind his standards there’s a lot of hard work.
Law 30 : Make Your Accomplishments Seem Effortless
As a CR7 fan I gotta say, CR7 works harder, but Messi works way smarter than harder, and that's what took him to be the successful player he has always been.
The young players who followed messi not warming up before games deserved the injurys it never made sense why people cant just be themselves 🤦🏽♂️
people really discrediting messis n stephs hardwork just because they have cultivated their talents through their youth. like yeah they have talent but so does every pro footballer, they still work incredibly hard even if it is not visible
Yuh, u are right but what makes them special is their talent, they do work hard but not like 100 .
"We talking bout PRACTICE?! Maaaan.." - Iverson
Without hardwork Messi wouldnt be who he is, he has train all his life,
If you want someone who is gifted but doesn't work hard you talk about Eden Hazard, not Messi. Messi works extremely hard.
What a genius assessment on Ronaldo/James and Messi/Curry!
R9 Ronaldo was exactly the same way, he didn’t waste any energy training…. Straight up raw talent 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Messi is putting his work way before the game. The game is fun. Practice is where the work is at.
Messi is too shy training with others. He bust his ass off after they go home
Incredible talent. He was born to play Football.
Guys we love Messi but he didnt work hard. He worked but not that hard
He is gifted
i don't believe you can play football at the highest level for 20 years at that level without working hard. he is absolutely gifted the best gifts ever. he's an absolute baller so his game isn't based off athletic abilities, like jumping, ya know... others i guess have to do more to keep their highest level but but this man has played around 1100 games in his career, some of the best athletes in football retire playing half that number
Just cuz the goat can play amazing without training doesn’t mean the other player can do the same 😔😬😀
Like klopp said " if youre not messi, you have to defend"
This exact mentality is what makes a legend different from normal players. Saying Messi is gifted and doesn’t do or need any hardwork is such a disrespect. He doesn’t need to boast his hardwork in front of everyone… you see the result of his hardwork and call it magic!!
He gets the 'bad' example from Ronaldinho but still 'work' hard for football achievement
Oh, yeah. Curry shows up early all the time, practices and practices, and works out. Sure, both superbly gifted, but mind you, they both began honing their skills very early and keep on doing so
There's nothing called gifted, you have to work hard to do whatever you want
you Must be living under a rock or something🤣🤣🤣
Ronaldo: talent and extreme hard work
Messi: extreme talent and hard work
it's just that simple
Messi is an extremely talented footballer, you can try to work 100 times harder than him and you still ain't gonna touch him
Talent without hardwork is nothing no matter how much talent you've got no matter how insane and natural you do at something but you have to work so hard to make all the gift/talents you got to keep improve,same sh*t like no matter how much hardwork you've been through at learning something you need to remember every person have a limit in his own body,sometimes hardwork can be define as a talent to, because not everyone could train so hard to achieve something.
- Let's say you have a talent and you're not working on it do you think you can be the best player compare to the others who put so much effort of doing something?
Among hundred thousands of football player,the one who get signed into a professional club can be consider as a big talent too,look how many promising young talents in the past failed at the age of 23,24,25 also before 30,this thing happened not only because of the injuries or just lack of motivation but you can considered for being not hardwork enough.
If you are a professional football player, and your reaction to seeing the best player in the world not working hard in practice, is to not work hard in practice yourself, your issue is that you overestimate your abilities and talent.
Great comparisons
I totally agree with Boateng. Very good comparison between Messi curry and Ronaldo James
Messi is talent shame he doesnt work harder so much more potential
Messi always trained. He just didn’t always train with the others. I think it comes from worrying about picking up injuries on the training pitch. It’s a big concern with a player that important
Ppl like Messi work hard but their talent outshines their hard work
People don't see them as hard working people coz they work hard in the dark they don't work hard where everyone can see them
he worked hard since birth. now he's at an expert level. just reflexes, not too much thinking. everything's automatic!
It is impossible for someone who is “born talented” to reach the level of success that Messi has without working hard. Just because someone makes it look easy, doesn’t mean that the person had it easy.
Look at training videos, Messi works like a beast. It is BECAUSE he has trained so much he can be comfortable and relaxed during warm ups and in the locker room.
The real question to messi that no reporter has ever asked is ' is your tallent god gifted or its your hard work '. People think god gifted because they havent seen him practicing football from his babyhood.
Messi changed his ways after that defeat to Liverpool. It made him realize that he's been a poor captain. If you notice since then, he's been taking a far more proactive role in mentoring younger players and setting a good example. Without that 4-0 loss at Anfield, I don't think Messi wins Copa America 2021 or the 2022 World Cup.
Love the Curry Bron comparisons to the players
Mr whoever you are,steph's handle practice/drills ares something that many NBA people try and fail miserably at.
its not a gift...its his attention to detail in presence.