I've always been a fan of RC but didn't get the RC deep dive until the past couple of months. This is one of the best and most informative videos I've found on any RC topic. Thanks so much! Also after pausing and reading the "magic formula" I about fell out of my chair
Thanks for another great video 🤗. So many variables with resistance and heat production. Sometimes a sneaky bad bearing or connection will skew all the metrics 😝. People that take shortcuts or don't maintain their rigs properly are the most likely to not temp check systematically or gear their rigs to the moon. 😎💪👊👊
You just had to show me the arrma "spool" gear for speed. Now I'm deep in the rabbit hole of gearing and speed. My Granite is a frankenstein abomination, way overpowered but surprisingly it held up. Wheelies on hoons if they are warmed up 🤤
@@afterrunrc9935 that's awesome Brother 🤗. Yeah it's Mad fun playing with gear ratios 😍. Just takes lots of experimentation and careful consideration of several factors. No one wants to kill their electronics in their quest for fun. 🍻😎💪👊👊
More teeth on the pinion add about an extra 4F to the motor per tooth (that is a 2200kv castle motor, the higher the kv the more the motor heat is affected by gearing) also to calculate your exact top end gain and acceleration loss (or vice versa) you need to get the gear ratio prior to changing it by dividing the spur by the pinion, get the gear ratio you want, divide the smaller by the bigger to get a percentage, and use that percentage to multiply with your top speed or 0-top-end. For an example my rc was going 32mph with that very same castle motor, a 45/21 gear ratio (2.143) and on a 2s battery. Now the ratio is 45/25 (1.8) and when you do the math that’s a 17.2% difference for roughly a 5.5mph top-end gain, the actual gain was something closer to 4.5mph but still it was pretty precise for just a estimate. I also believe inaccuracies in the formula are due to the changes a motor will make to its amperage draw and what happens when it hits it’s maximum electrical current, but I haven’t yet proved that.
Hello ,i need to order a 20 tooth pinion,to add more speed,but not sure of size its for a ZD racing 1/16 scale car ... it has a 3300 kv brushless motor... i think it a 24 40 can size... in my sg 1603 it used a 380 size brushed motor and i replaced it with a 4600 kv 2440 and just used the stock pinion which worked perfect... any help in pin pointing the correct part i need to order is appreciated... i ran several searches on ebay and all the pinions seem wrong size shaft and i am not sure of what pitch i need either... thanks
@@RCexplained yes and how it effects the motor “load” related to spur size but same ratio...hope this makes sense what I’m asking...it make my head spin trying to figure it out. Thanks again
@@RCexplained their isn’t? I would think driving a larger or smaller spur would put more stress or torque required to run the same ratio? Maybe I’m thinking too much lol 😝
So can my esc handle a 17t from a 14t on a 9300 sandy land? It has a upgrade motor. Everything else is stock. Need help please. 17t is a upgrade it said in the manual... not sure.
Great video. I have a max6 and an 1100kv motor that I will be installing in an Arrma mojave EXB, what size pinion gears should I get. I will not be running 8s, nor an I an extreme basher. Total noob. Thanks
Good timing with this video as I'm trying to figure out what to put in a X-Maxx that I put a Castle Monster 8S/1717 1650kv combo in. I currently have 24/50 in it and pull over 12hp and 386amps. I got an over amp warning in my data log. Strange thing is my temp was 140f and ripple was good. Ordered a set of Gensace RS7500 4S batteries hoping they will help. Was running a set of Gensace 5000 45c. Any thoughts?
1650kv motor for an Xmaxx was a terrible decision lol, too high of a Kv for a vehicle that size. You were better off using the stock motor instead which I think is like a 1200Kv. An 800kv - 1100kv motor would be a great KV for the Xmaxx. I personally would go with an 1100kv. I have the Leopard 1100kv in my Xmaxx and it's a Beast.👍👍👍💯💯💯
Got a question, Hope you respond. I replaced my Pinion and I tightend it all the way down where you could not move forward or backwards, You could only move it with the gearing to side to side. I took it out for a test drive and got everything tuned up to what I wanted it to be, The Pinion gear just keeps coming lose and flying off. Do I need to glue it? Or what do I need to do ? Thanks
Hello Im super inexperienced in the rc world and having problems finding any answers online with this issue, if the shaft size of the motor is 3.12mm and the pinion id hole is 3mm, and its a brass push on type of pinion, is the heat going to expand the pinion enough to fit the shaft. Any tips would be helpful thanks.
I've always been a fan of RC but didn't get the RC deep dive until the past couple of months. This is one of the best and most informative videos I've found on any RC topic. Thanks so much! Also after pausing and reading the "magic formula" I about fell out of my chair
Hey Brian, thanks for the awesome comment! I'm glad you found this video informative!
Thanks for another great video 🤗. So many variables with resistance and heat production. Sometimes a sneaky bad bearing or connection will skew all the metrics 😝. People that take shortcuts or don't maintain their rigs properly are the most likely to not temp check systematically or gear their rigs to the moon. 😎💪👊👊
You just had to show me the arrma "spool" gear for speed. Now I'm deep in the rabbit hole of gearing and speed. My Granite is a frankenstein abomination, way overpowered but surprisingly it held up. Wheelies on hoons if they are warmed up 🤤
@@afterrunrc9935 that's awesome Brother 🤗. Yeah it's Mad fun playing with gear ratios 😍. Just takes lots of experimentation and careful consideration of several factors. No one wants to kill their electronics in their quest for fun. 🍻😎💪👊👊
@@richduperbash2966 Burnt out a blx185 due to being impatient for parts to arrive... I know the pain. Thankfully not too expensive
Awesome vid! 😎👍
Thanks! 👍
Frickin awesome info! Thanks 👍🤙
You bet!
Nice video 👍
Thanks 👍
More teeth on the pinion add about an extra 4F to the motor per tooth (that is a 2200kv castle motor, the higher the kv the more the motor heat is affected by gearing) also to calculate your exact top end gain and acceleration loss (or vice versa) you need to get the gear ratio prior to changing it by dividing the spur by the pinion, get the gear ratio you want, divide the smaller by the bigger to get a percentage, and use that percentage to multiply with your top speed or 0-top-end. For an example my rc was going 32mph with that very same castle motor, a 45/21 gear ratio (2.143) and on a 2s battery. Now the ratio is 45/25 (1.8) and when you do the math that’s a 17.2% difference for roughly a 5.5mph top-end gain, the actual gain was something closer to 4.5mph but still it was pretty precise for just a estimate. I also believe inaccuracies in the formula are due to the changes a motor will make to its amperage draw and what happens when it hits it’s maximum electrical current, but I haven’t yet proved that.
Hello ,i need to order a 20 tooth pinion,to add more speed,but not sure of size its for a ZD racing 1/16 scale car ... it has a 3300 kv brushless motor... i think it a 24 40 can size... in my sg 1603 it used a 380 size brushed motor and i replaced it with a 4600 kv 2440 and just used the stock pinion which worked perfect... any help in pin pointing the correct part i need to order is appreciated... i ran several searches on ebay and all the pinions seem wrong size shaft and i am not sure of what pitch i need either... thanks
Good
Great info. I find the gearing confusing sometimes. I am not a speed guy, I mainly have crawlers. But i understand the principals are the same.🤘🤘🤘
Right on!
Could you please do a video regarding the influence different spur gears have while maintaining the same ratios? Thanks love the videos
Do you mean 10/20 vs 20/40? There is no difference in performance!
@@RCexplained yes and how it effects the motor “load” related to spur size but same ratio...hope this makes sense what I’m asking...it make my head spin trying to figure it out. Thanks again
@@RCexplained their isn’t? I would think driving a larger or smaller spur would put more stress or torque required to run the same ratio? Maybe I’m thinking too much lol 😝
There is no additional stress other than the larger inertia of the larger gears. However, this should be negligible.
@@RCexplained thank you!
So can my esc handle a 17t from a 14t on a 9300 sandy land? It has a upgrade motor. Everything else is stock. Need help please. 17t is a upgrade it said in the manual... not sure.
excellent video!
Thank you! Cheers!
I am getting cogging from my brushless motor and was considering going with a lower pinion gear to stop this.
Hi! What brushless combo do you advise to mount on a Kyosho mini inferno? Thank you só much for your videos!
Hi Ivo, I am not familiar with this model. You may want to hop on the forums and see what people are running in this model.
@@RCexplained thank you anyway! Keep up the good videos!
Great video. I have a max6 and an 1100kv motor that I will be installing in an Arrma mojave EXB, what size pinion gears should I get. I will not be running 8s, nor an I an extreme basher. Total noob. Thanks
Good timing with this video as I'm trying to figure out what to put in a X-Maxx that I put a Castle Monster 8S/1717 1650kv combo in. I currently have 24/50 in it and pull over 12hp and 386amps. I got an over amp warning in my data log. Strange thing is my temp was 140f and ripple was good. Ordered a set of Gensace RS7500 4S batteries hoping they will help. Was running a set of Gensace 5000 45c.
Any thoughts?
Sounds like your pinion gear is too big for the bursts of power you are using.
1650kv motor for an Xmaxx was a terrible decision lol, too high of a Kv for a vehicle that size. You were better off using the stock motor instead which I think is like a 1200Kv. An 800kv - 1100kv motor would be a great KV for the Xmaxx. I personally would go with an 1100kv. I have the Leopard 1100kv in my Xmaxx and it's a Beast.👍👍👍💯💯💯
Ok so if i want faster take off or torque and speed would i have to a higher gear or lower
Got a question, Hope you respond. I replaced my Pinion and I tightend it all the way down where you could not move forward or backwards, You could only move it with the gearing to side to side. I took it out for a test drive and got everything tuned up to what I wanted it to be, The Pinion gear just keeps coming lose and flying off. Do I need to glue it? Or what do I need to do ? Thanks
Use thread locking compound on the set screw
Hello Im super inexperienced in the rc world and having problems finding any answers online with this issue, if the shaft size of the motor is 3.12mm and the pinion id hole is 3mm, and its a brass push on type of pinion, is the heat going to expand the pinion enough to fit the shaft. Any tips would be helpful thanks.
No, that is not desirable. 3.00mm hole requires 3.00mm shaft with correct tolerancing.
Don't you just shoehorn the biggest motor/esc you can in there then use the biggest pinion that doesn't let the smoke out?
Absolutely!
Doesnt the spur gear affect the max pinion gear that it can accept?.
in what way?
@@RCexplained the size of the spur affects the max pinion
Looks like the calculator does not work.. i receive error 404 page. Nice video
www.radiocontrolinfo.com/information/rc-calculators/rc-car-calculator/
thanks!
Is it just me or do I get “Kermit the frog” vibes from this guys voice?