I became a dronemaniac about a year ago and, being a technicaly skilled engineer, I am surprised that every time I watch one of your videos, I learn something new and important! I have to admit...you replaced Netflix on my tablet when I go to bed! Great job and I am watching all and every one you post...often several times!
@@Painless360 hi. I screwed up my ESC of no name by wrong calibration with my tx16s radio as I was not aware of the tones. Is there any universal way of returning the single ESC 30Amp to the original setting (factory reset) somehow? How?
I have returned to RC (20 years of building/flying/crashing planes) after a 10 year lull and have explored multirotors. I have spent a pile of cash teaching myself how to build and crash but have managed to learn basic FPV. Your You Tube video channel is like the University of Modern Radio Control and should be a must for all old timers re-entering the hobby. Thanks so much for all you have taught me!
Forgot to mention, I started the build of a Hexacopter which I design for high payload and precision flying. Needless to say, your contribution to my project is incredible...I think I will print a small sticker with your logo and stick it some where on the final chef-d'oeuvre!
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!! I had a Blackfoot about four hundred years ago and am wanting to get back into the hobby with rock crawling. This stuff is all new to me and easy to understand videos like yours are a life saver. Thank you so much!
Learned a bunch. Thanks! Putting together an FMS PT-17 and know almost nothing about today's RC radio tech, especially electric powered, so trying to get up to speed. Used to love flying gas/nitro planes using now-extinct FM radios. Was always worried someone would accidentally turn on 'my' channel 42 and crash my beloved plane. Glad that old tech finally slithered into the tar pits. Gotta say that today's RC tech is freakin' extraordinary! Cheers from Thailand!
+Jimbo in Thailand glad it made sense. I came back I to RC just as the old tech was dying off. There are lots of basics about current technology in the 'Introduction to Remote Control" series. Happy flying!
Being a newcomer to this hobby trying to wrap your head around all the theory takes a f***ing university degree. At some point - usually around here with ESCs and BECs - smoke is coming from your brain and your hair is catching fire but you can't put it out, because your eyes are pointing in different directions. But dont worry, it's all fun and games until you realize everything you watched and read was made back in 2012 and everything's changed since. Yay!
+iMeMySelf stick with it, it'll all make sense. This video is part of a series that's designed to cover the basics and everything in the series is still relevant. Sure, they've been improvements and changes and firmware additions but the basic principles underlying everything are still exactly the same as they were 10 years ago. Best of luck with your journey in the Hobby
Thank you @Painless360 all of a sudden, everything fell in place. You were right, it's weird and I can't explain it but you were def right about going back to the basics. Then updating on progress made since that time is easy-piecy!
Thanks for helping all of us newbies. All your videos are clear, to the point and without the a noxious background music present on too many. ...and, by the way, for people who grew up with 2-stroke engines and 27MHz radios, there’s a LOT to be learned...
There is but the hobby is even more fun now with the amazing tech about. Once you've got to grips with the new digital radios and eleectrics power systems then you'll be back flying. Have a look at the 'Introduction to Remote Control' for more of the basics videos. I'm starting a new series next month that looks at the common questions from 'new' and 'just come back to the hobby' pilots so please keep an eye out for that too! Happy flying!
Think I found my new favorite youtube channel... Your helping make a hobby that seemed exclusively technical, overwhelming, and not accessible to anyone not working for NASA..., into a doable, fun, and educational hobby that will open up whole new areas of knowledge and interest for many people including me. Particularly in today's world,That is as commendable and needed as much as any charity or good deed could be. Good on ya and Thanks :)
+DanielVision Thank you for taking the time to write that! It's always nice to hear we are helping others understand some part of the hobby. Happy flying!
Thank you for stating that these "brushless DC motors" are actually 3-phase motors (synchronous 3-phase specifically). I'm both an RC pilot and an electrical engineer so the "DC motor" false identification has always sort of annoyed me. I speculate that half of the hobbyists don't know and care. But the other half wants to learn and understand. Giving them the accurate information reduces confusion . Thank you 👍
You have a great channel. I recently picked up the hobby again after a long hiatus (since teenage years). Now I will finally finish my Tamiya Gepard (with custom gearbox), together with my son! I am so much realizing how much we were in the dark back in the era before Internet and RUclips! By the way, I now work for one of the leading manufacturers of small DC drive systems, so I have a much more professional angle towards the hobby. Still a lot of fun!
Welcome back to the hobby. A lot has changed in just the last two years. It's cheaper, we have more power using LIPOs and brusless motors, the parts and models are easier to get and repair and you'll need to reach for as PC more often now than in the 'old' days. It's even more fun now! Best of luck with the model and getting back into it all. The series called 'Introduction to Remote Control' may be a little noddy for you but may act as a reminder.. :D
Robert Blitek Tanks for the feedback. Some good 'Introduction to.." playlists in the channel that may be of interest - ruclips.net/p/PLYsWjANuAm4oWuE5ZDX4TAiHBv2i0Xl4m, ruclips.net/p/PLYsWjANuAm4pIU07ta7glYIn-EBCof_4r and ruclips.net/p/PLYsWjANuAm4rQfddw-7YZDzckoJ_KyOpm Best of luck.
TOTALLY THE BEST, DEFINITION(S) OF ESC I HEARD ON THE TUBE ! AWESOME INFO, NO freaking overriding background music etc., Very Professional in my book! T H A N K S
Please spread awareness about silicosis which is a fatal disease I had never heard of and worry it will destroy my life we were carpenters that built houses and in the usa have to have tie down anchors so we drilled into the concrete and cut fiber cement siding because they changed from plywood to it no one ever told us its fatal.
HI YOUR VIDEOS ARE GREAT .i JUST GOT INTO qUADS AND YOUR VIDEOS ARE THE BEST! i HAVE LEARNED A LOT FROM THEM AND IAM A OLD TIMER BE VERY CLEAR AND EASY TO UNDERSTAND, THANKS.
Yet another great video Lee. Thank you for what you are doing for the community buddy. Without people like you, excuse my french, I would be screwed. Thank you.
I want to get the complete step by step procedure in setting up my Flysky FS CT6B to control a Sabertooth motor driver for 2 wheelchair motors. After I purchased the Flysky system I discovered not everything I needed to make it work was contained in the box. I became aware that I needed a separate power source for the receiver. Then I became further confused with ESCs & BECs. I'm talking about connections, current requirements, etc. My Sabertooth driver is dual 32 amps.... This all new to me.
+William Gunter all of the basics for radio control, when it relates to radio control models, are in the 'introduction to remote control' series here on the channel. This video is part of that series, hopefully the other videos will help. Best of luck
Thank you ! So much to learn and things are constantly changing or being updated. Nice to have some where to look to find details in layman's terms backed by real knowledge.
Together with a colleague, I am looking to drive my tank with two BLDC (outrunner) motors (one for each track). We may use an Arduino to make a "digital differential", like some of the Tamiya DMD controllers. We're still in the early stages so I'm now exploring the current state of technology of RC, which your channel is proving to be of great benefit. On my channel there is an animation of the "Cletrac" differential, which is a very nice mechanical concept, although hardly suitable for RC.
You could also use a mix inside the transmitter you are using too. Look at the videos of brushless motors on twin engine 'planes. They use differential thrust to turn. Maybe that could work mixing the throttle channel with the channel you're using to turn? Best of luck with the project!
Thanks so much for your quick replies! I did consider this and will have to dive into it deeper. A requirement is that the tank does a "neutral turn" (pirouette). In the Tamiya controller, past a certain (steering) stick position, the motors will spin in opposite directions. Earlier my tank operated with two brushed motors, two Tekin reversible ESCs on two identical up-down sticks on the transmitter. This works fine but I really like the idea of controlling it as an RC car, but with the added "neutral turn" functionality. I will be uploading a video soon on the custom gearbox I already built (more than 20 years ago) and how we'll redesign it into a "high tech integrated drive system"!
Quickly researched it... looks like any transmitter with mix functions will do the trick just fine... thanks again! I'll have to find another project for that Arduino...
Hello, thank you for yet another excellent video. Even though I have used them for years, it clarified my understanding of ESC's, especially the significance of SimonK. I do believe there is one thing that you could add to this video which I still don't quite understand. That is the difference between 'Rapid' and standard ESC's. In Open Pilot, one has to choose the type of ESC (as shown your very well done CC3D videos). Can any ESC be a rapid ESC? Are they special? Are they something we should aim for? Can a firmware change make a standard ESC rapid? Everything else about ESC's you have explained so clearly. Just a thought.
Thanks for another great video . . Your video was just what I needed to know as could not find another video with all the information that you provided
+jacky Parker Glad you liked it. Loads of videos in the 'Introduction to Remote Control' playlist that cover the basics. Best of luck with your project!
+Painless360 Just that your YT channel has got to be in the 10 top for RC reviews on YT . . . . Reason I say that is your videos haver been mentioned in facebook RC groups a few times
Very very educational. Best ESC explanation. My quadcopter got lost and was found a month later upside down in a puddle of water with battery missing. I cleaned it and dried it out and checked to make sure all the motors still turned freely by hand. After installing a new battery, i tried to fly it and it lifted off and hovered at 4 ft or so as usual but as soon as I tried to move it to the left, it drifted away and wouldn’t come back. I had to run after it to stop it. Could a bad ESC cause this drifting away issue?
I have since bought 12v dc 0.18a brushless 2 wire fan. I bought a pwm controller to vary the speed but the fan did not even turn with the potentiometer in either position. Struggling to get any info even from suppliers. Can you advise what type of controller I need for this type of fan? Thankyou. Great videos.
Pretty much, as long as the ESC is rated for more current that the maximum the motor needs. Some motors may need tweaks to the settings though (advance etc).
Now I run over a topic related to the ESC, that I find interesting: What does the frequency do and what does it mean for a motor - ESC combination? Is a frequency lets say 600Hz better than 450Hz? Or is there a kind of rule - lower kV lower frequency or does it have to do with the number of poles od a brushless motor? With a program card or with the TX the Hz is adjustable, but what is recommended for multicopter?
The frequency is the speed of updates to the ESC from the FC. Analogue servos and traditional ESCs normally update at 50hz or 50 times a second. Sounds like a lot right? Well, in practice a 50hz rate isn't enough for more aggressive moves with faster speeds so firmware like SimonK 6x the update speed and faster response were created. The pulses to the motor are managed by the ESC to match the throttle needed. Hope this makes sense.
Painless360 So does this mean if I have the option to choose between 490Hz and 600Hz, I should switch to 600Hz? (asking for Hobbywing XRotor black series ESC) Thank you.
Yup fascinating cant wait to play with some of these. Problem Im finding, everytime I watch one of your videos I buy some parts. Im not going to this time ...... Im gonna wait till tomorrow. Solution!
Great tutorial video my freind. Q: can you tell me what ESC should I get for my 4pole 3650-5200kv motor using 4500 3s lipo 😳🤯😫 I got a cheap 120Amp ESC for £15 and it burnt out on its first run. I was lucky to be right there when it happend or I would of wrecked my car. Please can you help me. 🤔??
Wow this is so useful! Just in the middle of building a scratch build wing and having clicking noises and warm motor, using a traditional esc type. Looks like the timing is my issue?
Old RadioShack RC trucks were so durable, double the voltage... No worries, you will just strip the gears lol. Get a WPL C14 and go from 6V to 7.4.. Bang, cook the server straight away! No steering lol.
I've often seen mentioned that the wires from the motor to the ESC should be extended (if needed) and not the wires from the power source. Your thoughts.
Hey man great video tutorial very easy to understand, so thanks. I'm thinking of building copter but with a difference, I want to build one with 3 lift motors and two propulsion motors. So in otherwords 3 motors in the y axis and and 2 in the x axis. I'm just getting up to speed with ESC etc and wanted to know in principal would it be possible to control this set up and how one wuld go about wiring it? All help gratefully received
Very good video again. Can you tell me why my 20amp esc operates fine with a 3s li-po battery but when trying to use a 3S li-ion the throttle starts to play up. Full throttle and speed then begins to fall and then motor violently pulses
Another great video and your channel is my first stop for technical information on RC! Hopefully you can help me with this? If you use ESCs without BECs what would be the best way to set up a 5 volt power supply?
Peter Arnold To see more videos on RC power systems visit - ruclips.net/user/playlist?list... You need to use a separate UBEC to power the board. Some now come fitted to the power distribution boards for simplicity. Happy flying!
Painless360 Thanks for your help. I have also been looking around for a 40A BLHeli ESC and there doesn't seem to be many around but found this one www.banggood.com/EMAX-BLHeli-Series-40A-50A-60A-80A-UBEC-ESC-p-963632.html. My concern is that the price for this one and other similar ones are suspiciously low? Is price something to be concerned about?
Lower process can certainly mean lower quality but getting them from the manufacturers via a middleman can still get you great technology for the lower price. Personally I'd give them a try..
Have received my skyfun todaty with a 25Amp linear esc bec but i have no idea how can I use a separated batery in order to control telemetry in one side with its own Bec and the motor and throtle in the other ... do you guys have a video showing how to use 2 separated batts for tha5? Thank you ;)
Fantastic explanation, thank you for taking the time out to make this vid! One question I have is, what type of ESC should I use when using a standard 12v automotive lead acid battery as a power supply? I want to run an EDF using manual control for speed/thrust adjustment so I figured a servo tester connected to an appropriate ESC should do the job as I can use the manual mode potentiometer to control the speed but what about the battery type? Is this going to be an issue?
Any standard ESC that supports a 3S LIPO should be fine. The ESC doesn't care about the battery type, just that it is the right voltage and can supply the current it needs.. Best of luck!
Great video! How can I tell if an ESC is going out? My quadcopter drifts to the left and forward after flying for a bit. Also, the front left motor doesn't seem to have the brake control working . Usually if I flick the props with my finger they don't spin while connected to the esc's. The front left one now spins freely when connected to the esc.
+Jeremy Dockter Sounds like the settings on one of your ESCs is different. That on it's own can cause problems like you are seeing. Normally ESCs fail in a dramatic way..
Hi! Great video and great explanation! I’m currently building a quadcopter using an APM 2.8 and maybe you could help me solve some questions I have. I have LD Power ESC’s with NO BEC’s. Does that mean that to power the APM I should leave the JP1 INSIDE to power the whole APM with the 5V the power module provides and leave the power cables from all of the ESC’s connected? In that case, will those 5V the power module provide be enough to power the whole APM or could I have voltage shortage problems, or over voltage problems coming from adding the power module voltage and the ESC voltage (with no BEC the ESC’s should not be powering the APM at all, wright?)? Thanks in advance!
thank you very much it's really really best explanation👍👍👍👍👍 I would like to ask you what ESC would u suggest for my quadcoptor , I just started making my DRONE
fantastic sir...this is the thing i was looking for mainly the BEC part...i am usuing a 12amp simonk with BEC with cc3d open pilot and i was wondering whather i should pop out the hot wires from the remaing 3 or not...you make me to take the right choice...mine are linear...thank you :-)
I'm a bit unclear on the OPTO ESC's. I was planning to use my OPTOs for motor only and using a separate 6V batt to power my servos etc. Do I need to use a separate BEC or can I just plug the 6V battery pack into my receiver BATT slot? Thanks for these videos, I subscribed.
thank you this is very helpful...i have quadcopter that only has two wires for each motor as they are brushed motors..the motors burn up allot ..i was wondering if there's was way to run the brushed motor in this quad with one of these speed controllers? or am i just crazy ..i'm a newb to this stuff ..i'm a mechanic too so i'm able to fix stuff..but only if i understand it ....which i don't at the moment
Not easily, brushed motors are used on the cheaper models. you dont mention the model you have but you could google for a brushless conversion kit for it. Best of luck!
I have these Tarot 40A 2S - 6S ESC OneShot & SimonK Firmware with 5V BEC - TL2953, the specs say they are linear but you mentioned that linear are only for 4S Lipos. I have 6 of these going onto my Tarot 680 hexacopter, so now I'm a bit worried as to the suitability of these ESC,s.
They will be fine but I'd not use them to provide the 5v the flight controller and pieces need. I'd power it using a dedicated 5V BEC.. See the other videos where I cover this in the 'Introduction to Remote Control' and 'Quadcopter building for beginners' too..
many thanks, I'll take a look at your videos, my tarot build has turned out to be a bit of a nightmare, but at the same time a very interesting learning curve. Thanks again.
I am college student, and we are working on small team project this quarter. we planed to build a control moving platform can hold 50kg(with one 4 inch wheel). we have GForce 400kv motor, 120 ESC Brushless speed control, 8.4V battery, and 2.4ghz Radio System Transmitter. After we contected all parts, the motor only worked twice, then never work anymore. Could you tell us what's problem we might have and how to make it better? Thank you!
+ubbelohed Wu this is a little outside what we normally do here. But normal troubleshooting rules will apply. I'd check the motor driver and wiring as a first thing, then start to look at the logic and firmware on the controller. Best of luck with the project.
Another great tutorial, thanks! I have read in a couple of places that Switched BECs provide a less clean supply when compared to Linear ... which may cause interference when powering FPV equipment. Do you agree?
+zoso12 The output capacitors and smoothing circuitry is normally well up to the task of smoothing the 5v output to be silky smooth. I suppose those that use smaller caps and lower quality components may have problems but I've not seen it..
Really great video, thanks! I have a question. I have linear escs. Do I have to connect all four 5v to the cc3d or can I just connect one and use the others for lights and stuff? Are there any benefits in connecting them all to the cc3d? Thanks again!
+Painless360 I am in the process of building a Blackout mini h, currently I have run into some problems. When testing my motors using Cleanflight 2 of 4 ESCs let out the magic smoke and possibly ruining the motors as well. I am sure all the pros check their ESCs before soldering to the PDB and to the motors, but to us newbies we just solder on and hope for the best. Unfortunately I learned my lesson the hard way and I will be getting a multimeter to test my ESCs next time. Some of us do not know how to check for continuity on the ESCs and/or the motors (including myself) so I thought it would be a great idea for a pro like yourself to do a video on that.
Hello. I'm intent on using an RC motor in a project and have a 12V power supply and a PWM all set to go. Is it possible to connect a brushless to the PWM without an ESC or is the latter a must for brushless? If so, what motor then can I just connect to a PWM in just cutting the wires and attaching it? Your diagram and animations are informative BTW 'cos I'm learning as I go with this stuff.
ok, i'm in a bit of a conundrum.I was trying to use a brushless motor (thanks again on clearing that other question up, btw) and my intent is to use a 12v power supply connected to a PWM which is then connected to the brushless motor. This is is all for a project. Question: am I mental for thinking this will work? Power supply: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N0O646U/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1 PWM: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01H1W79S0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Motor (I'm returning this one before I make the mistake of overloading it): www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01149JBNC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Hello Mr. Painless360, I've got some Optio ESCs (emax 40A) and trying to understand how to setup.@18:18 you say something about an "incoming rail". What do you mean? I just cut all the red wires from the ESCs to the flight-controler and then power only one of them on the side into the flight-controller from a seperate ubec, right? Thanks for the effort you're making with these videos, much appreciated.
Hi sir i have a question i have linear 30A escs.how do i wire it up to a tcmmrc f4 flight controller..im stuck on the part where the big red wire and black wire setup and then the smaller wires signal..ground ..you said in one video about not using red wire so i took them off.can u make a video on this..thank you
I'm guessing you're not a regular viewer. If the ESCs have linear BECs then you can connect all the red power wires to the FC without a problem (normally). See my recent 'basics' video - ruclips.net/video/xPDc6r6nRTU/видео.html
I became a dronemaniac about a year ago and, being a technicaly skilled engineer, I am surprised that every time I watch one of your videos, I learn something new and important! I have to admit...you replaced Netflix on my tablet when I go to bed! Great job and I am watching all and every one you post...often several times!
Glad the videos are proving helpful! Best of luck with the build!
@@Painless360 hi. I screwed up my ESC of no name by wrong calibration with my tx16s radio as I was not aware of the tones. Is there any universal way of returning the single ESC 30Amp to the original setting (factory reset) somehow? How?
I have returned to RC (20 years of building/flying/crashing planes) after a 10 year lull and have explored multirotors. I have spent a pile of cash teaching myself how to build and crash but have managed to learn basic FPV. Your You Tube video channel is like the University of Modern Radio Control and should be a must for all old timers re-entering the hobby. Thanks so much for all you have taught me!
petwog You are very welcome, you are one of the audiences that this is made for.
Happy flying, welcome back!
@@Painless360 can we use this ESC for RC car
Your channel is one of the greatest ones of them all. Very in depth, yet broken down for simple minded folk such as myself. You're a great teacher!
Forgot to mention, I started the build of a Hexacopter which I design for high payload and precision flying. Needless to say, your contribution to my project is incredible...I think I will print a small sticker with your logo and stick it some where on the final chef-d'oeuvre!
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!! I had a Blackfoot about four hundred years ago and am wanting to get back into the hobby with rock crawling. This stuff is all new to me and easy to understand videos like yours are a life saver. Thank you so much!
Learned a bunch. Thanks! Putting together an FMS PT-17 and know almost nothing about today's RC radio tech, especially electric powered, so trying to get up to speed. Used to love flying gas/nitro planes using now-extinct FM radios. Was always worried someone would accidentally turn on 'my' channel 42 and crash my beloved plane. Glad that old tech finally slithered into the tar pits. Gotta say that today's RC tech is freakin' extraordinary!
Cheers from Thailand!
+Jimbo in Thailand glad it made sense. I came back I to RC just as the old tech was dying off. There are lots of basics about current technology in the 'Introduction to Remote Control" series. Happy flying!
I am working on project using RC motors and ESCs and this was the single most useful video I watched in 2 days of research! THANK YOU!
+lemmonsinmyeyes Glad it helped! Best of luck with the project!
Being a newcomer to this hobby trying to wrap your head around all the theory takes a f***ing university degree. At some point - usually around here with ESCs and BECs - smoke is coming from your brain and your hair is catching fire but you can't put it out, because your eyes are pointing in different directions. But dont worry, it's all fun and games until you realize everything you watched and read was made back in 2012 and everything's changed since. Yay!
+iMeMySelf stick with it, it'll all make sense. This video is part of a series that's designed to cover the basics and everything in the series is still relevant. Sure, they've been improvements and changes and firmware additions but the basic principles underlying everything are still exactly the same as they were 10 years ago. Best of luck with your journey in the Hobby
Thank you @Painless360 all of a sudden, everything fell in place. You were right, it's weird and I can't explain it but you were def right about going back to the basics. Then updating on progress made since that time is easy-piecy!
Thanks for helping all of us newbies. All your videos are clear, to the point and without the a noxious background music present on too many.
...and, by the way, for people who grew up with 2-stroke engines and 27MHz radios, there’s a LOT to be learned...
There is but the hobby is even more fun now with the amazing tech about. Once you've got to grips with the new digital radios and eleectrics power systems then you'll be back flying. Have a look at the 'Introduction to Remote Control' for more of the basics videos. I'm starting a new series next month that looks at the common questions from 'new' and 'just come back to the hobby' pilots so please keep an eye out for that too! Happy flying!
New to RC Flying, and this was an outstanding beginner's outlook on how ESC's work!! Thanks for taking the time to produce this.
Think I found my new favorite youtube channel... Your helping make a hobby that seemed exclusively technical, overwhelming, and not accessible to anyone not working for NASA..., into a doable, fun, and educational hobby that will open up whole new areas of knowledge and interest for many people including me. Particularly in today's world,That is as commendable and needed as much as any charity or good deed could be. Good on ya and Thanks :)
+DanielVision Thank you for taking the time to write that! It's always nice to hear we are helping others understand some part of the hobby. Happy flying!
Thank you for stating that these "brushless DC motors" are actually 3-phase motors (synchronous 3-phase specifically). I'm both an RC pilot and an electrical engineer so the "DC motor" false identification has always sort of annoyed me. I speculate that half of the hobbyists don't know and care. But the other half wants to learn and understand. Giving them the accurate information reduces confusion . Thank you 👍
You have a great channel. I recently picked up the hobby again after a long hiatus (since teenage years). Now I will finally finish my Tamiya Gepard (with custom gearbox), together with my son! I am so much realizing how much we were in the dark back in the era before Internet and RUclips! By the way, I now work for one of the leading manufacturers of small DC drive systems, so I have a much more professional angle towards the hobby. Still a lot of fun!
Welcome back to the hobby. A lot has changed in just the last two years. It's cheaper, we have more power using LIPOs and brusless motors, the parts and models are easier to get and repair and you'll need to reach for as PC more often now than in the 'old' days. It's even more fun now! Best of luck with the model and getting back into it all. The series called 'Introduction to Remote Control' may be a little noddy for you but may act as a reminder.. :D
Brilliant exposition of ESC control and brushless motors, not into RC, just needed to understand how to regulate a motor - thanks
I am new to RC and these videos are making it a lot easier to understand. Thank you for making then and please keep them coming.
Robert Blitek Tanks for the feedback. Some good 'Introduction to.." playlists in the channel that may be of interest - ruclips.net/p/PLYsWjANuAm4oWuE5ZDX4TAiHBv2i0Xl4m, ruclips.net/p/PLYsWjANuAm4pIU07ta7glYIn-EBCof_4r and ruclips.net/p/PLYsWjANuAm4rQfddw-7YZDzckoJ_KyOpm
Best of luck.
TOTALLY THE BEST, DEFINITION(S) OF ESC I HEARD ON THE TUBE ! AWESOME INFO, NO freaking overriding background music etc., Very Professional in my book! T H A N K S
Excellent video... not to technical but just the right amount of information to answer the most asked questions... Well done!
Thanks you :)
Painless, I've watched so many of your videos, and in terms of explaining things I think you're THE best that I've seen! Keep up the good work! Tom
+Mrkindleify Thanks Tom! Happy flying!
Painless360 what do I do with the red white and black combo wire if I don’t have a port for it on my FC?
:) WOW! Best ESC explanation ever. Thank you ! A must see & understand for all newbies (me) :)
bekawe2011 Thanks for the feedback! There are a few 'Introduction to..' playlists on the channel that you may find interesting..
Happy flying!
Please spread awareness about silicosis which is a fatal disease I had never heard of and worry it will destroy my life we were carpenters that built houses and in the usa have to have tie down anchors so we drilled into the concrete and cut fiber cement siding because they changed from plywood to it no one ever told us its fatal.
HI YOUR VIDEOS ARE GREAT .i JUST GOT INTO qUADS AND YOUR VIDEOS ARE THE BEST!
i HAVE LEARNED A LOT FROM THEM AND IAM A OLD TIMER BE VERY CLEAR AND EASY TO UNDERSTAND,
THANKS.
Yet another great video Lee.
Thank you for what you are doing for the community buddy. Without people like you, excuse my french, I would be screwed.
Thank you.
Mr. Lee you are a RC Guru for many of us......Thank you Sir.!!
Super instruction... as a newbee I find your info clear and concise and so helpful, thank you!
+Robert Mulligan thanks for the message. I am glad the videos are proving useful. Happy flying!
Usefull video sir! Comprehensive rundown of all important info on brushless ESC! :)
I want to get the complete step by step procedure in setting up my Flysky FS CT6B to control a Sabertooth motor driver for 2 wheelchair motors. After I purchased the Flysky system I discovered not everything I needed to make it work was contained in the box. I became aware that I needed a separate power source for the receiver. Then I became further confused with ESCs & BECs. I'm talking about connections, current requirements, etc. My Sabertooth driver is dual 32 amps.... This all new to me.
+William Gunter all of the basics for radio control, when it relates to radio control models, are in the 'introduction to remote control' series here on the channel. This video is part of that series, hopefully the other videos will help. Best of luck
This is very informative and helped me A LOT ! Thank you!
Thank you ! So much to learn and things are constantly changing or being updated. Nice to have some where to look to find details in layman's terms backed by real knowledge.
Great video. This discussion is still valuable today for beginning RC wannabees.
Together with a colleague, I am looking to drive my tank with two BLDC (outrunner) motors (one for each track). We may use an Arduino to make a "digital differential", like some of the Tamiya DMD controllers. We're still in the early stages so I'm now exploring the current state of technology of RC, which your channel is proving to be of great benefit. On my channel there is an animation of the "Cletrac" differential, which is a very nice mechanical concept, although hardly suitable for RC.
You could also use a mix inside the transmitter you are using too. Look at the videos of brushless motors on twin engine 'planes. They use differential thrust to turn. Maybe that could work mixing the throttle channel with the channel you're using to turn? Best of luck with the project!
Thanks so much for your quick replies! I did consider this and will have to dive into it deeper. A requirement is that the tank does a "neutral turn" (pirouette). In the Tamiya controller, past a certain (steering) stick position, the motors will spin in opposite directions. Earlier my tank operated with two brushed motors, two Tekin reversible ESCs on two identical up-down sticks on the transmitter. This works fine but I really like the idea of controlling it as an RC car, but with the added "neutral turn" functionality. I will be uploading a video soon on the custom gearbox I already built (more than 20 years ago) and how we'll redesign it into a "high tech integrated drive system"!
Quickly researched it... looks like any transmitter with mix functions will do the trick just fine... thanks again! I'll have to find another project for that Arduino...
With modern transmitters you can actually do lots with them that you would need a Pi/Ardunio for in the past. Best of luck with the project!
Thanks Lee , I'll have a swap around before ordering parts . Keep up the good work 👍🏻
good lecture for beginner, like me. Thank you very much
Great information for us newbies , thanks
You opened up my eyes and thanks for the in sights. Great tutorial and info.
+Mrinfoone thank you!
Hello, thank you for yet another excellent video. Even though I have used them for years, it clarified my understanding of ESC's, especially the significance of SimonK. I do believe there is one thing that you could add to this video which I still don't quite understand. That is the difference between 'Rapid' and standard ESC's. In Open Pilot, one has to choose the type of ESC (as shown your very well done CC3D videos). Can any ESC be a rapid ESC? Are they special? Are they something we should aim for? Can a firmware change make a standard ESC rapid? Everything else about ESC's you have explained so clearly. Just a thought.
Very good video, schooling a thirty year electrician.
Great video and explains ESC very well.. congrats
+My Drone Addiction Thank you.
Brilliant. Best educational quad to-do videos on youtube. Keep on publishing, and more builds. Thanks!
Ja hans bagkatalog af instruktionsvideoer er absolut overvældende. Jeg er også en stor fan.
Every rc tutorials came across talks about brushless motors
Thank you. Great job explaining.
Love your videos. Clear and easy to understand. Very Nice work!
Thanks! Your Video Post are very informative...
Excellent presentation
I appreciate this video. Thank you.
Thank you for your excellent videos and descriptions,the best videos I have seen so far on internet .regards
Thank you. Happy flying!
great vid!!! saving me a lot of trouble upgrading my racing quad!
Thanks for another great video . . Your video was just what I needed to know as could not find another video with all the information that you provided
+jacky Parker Glad you liked it. Loads of videos in the 'Introduction to Remote Control' playlist that cover the basics. Best of luck with your project!
+Painless360 Correct me if i am wrong but are you in to RC boats ?
Not at the moment, why?
+Painless360 Just that your YT channel has got to be in the 10 top for RC reviews on YT . . . . Reason I say that is your videos haver been mentioned in facebook RC groups a few times
Awesome explanation hope you can post the actual happening on that diagram 👏🏼
Very very educational. Best ESC explanation. My quadcopter got lost and was found a month later upside down in a puddle of water with battery missing. I cleaned it and dried it out and checked to make sure all the motors still turned freely by hand. After installing a new battery, i tried to fly it and it lifted off and hovered at 4 ft or so as usual but as soon as I tried to move it to the left, it drifted away and wouldn’t come back. I had to run after it to stop it. Could a bad ESC cause this drifting away issue?
If it’s hovering ok then it’s unlikely. See my video on what to check if your Quadcopter drifts.. it may help..
very informative on a fundamental level...thanks
Thanks, this was super helpful!
Thank you for the great information given on esc`s. Very helpful. Getting ready to setup an a10.
I have since bought 12v dc 0.18a brushless 2 wire fan. I bought a pwm controller to vary the speed but the fan did not even turn with the potentiometer in either position. Struggling to get any info even from suppliers. Can you advise what type of controller I need for this type of fan? Thankyou. Great videos.
Sorry, no idea. I've not seen a brushless motor in the hobby with only two wires.. Best of luck!
You gained a subscriber, great videos!
+Nathan Moody Thank you - welcome to the channel!
Very helpful and very well explained - thank you.
What a great explanation very good channel 👍👍👍
Thanks for the great video!
Any idea why I would need to calibrate every time I change batteries?
No, that shouldn't happen.. I'd check to see if others with the same ESC have had similar problems. Best of luck!
thank you so much. Very nicely explained.
In this video, does the ESC has linear or switch BEC ? Thanks in advance!
These older ESCs were almost all linear as it was the cheaper way to do it.. Happy flying!
THANKyou for providing a timeline index :)
Very interesting, thanks! there is one topic I didn't clearly hear in your video: does any ESC controller works with any brushless motor?
Pretty much, as long as the ESC is rated for more current that the maximum the motor needs. Some motors may need tweaks to the settings though (advance etc).
thank you so much for a very helpful video! happy new year!
Thank you. Best wishes for the New Year!
You're helping me tons thanks for all the great info.
Great explanation. Well done.
Now I run over a topic related to the ESC, that I find interesting: What does the frequency do and what does it mean for a motor - ESC combination? Is a frequency lets say 600Hz better than 450Hz? Or is there a kind of rule - lower kV lower frequency or does it have to do with the number of poles od a brushless motor?
With a program card or with the TX the Hz is adjustable, but what is recommended for multicopter?
The frequency is the speed of updates to the ESC from the FC. Analogue servos and traditional ESCs normally update at 50hz or 50 times a second. Sounds like a lot right?
Well, in practice a 50hz rate isn't enough for more aggressive moves with faster speeds so firmware like SimonK 6x the update speed and faster response were created. The pulses to the motor are managed by the ESC to match the throttle needed.
Hope this makes sense.
Painless360 So does this mean if I have the option to choose between 490Hz and 600Hz, I should switch to 600Hz?
(asking for Hobbywing XRotor black series ESC)
Thank you.
A very informative video and well explained, many thanks.
Yup fascinating cant wait to play with some of these. Problem Im finding, everytime I watch one of your videos I buy some parts. Im not going to this time ...... Im gonna wait till tomorrow. Solution!
Sorry about that ;)
thankyou for turorial info.im learning
Great tutorial video my freind. Q: can you tell me what ESC should I get for my 4pole 3650-5200kv motor using 4500 3s lipo 😳🤯😫 I got a cheap 120Amp ESC for £15 and it burnt out on its first run. I was lucky to be right there when it happend or I would of wrecked my car. Please can you help me. 🤔??
Look at the amp rating for the motor and get an ESC with a higher rating.. best of luck!
Thanks brother helps alot. 👍👊👍👊
Wow this is so useful! Just in the middle of building a scratch build wing and having clicking noises and warm motor, using a traditional esc type. Looks like the timing is my issue?
Very possibly. Best of luck!
Old RadioShack RC trucks were so durable, double the voltage... No worries, you will just strip the gears lol. Get a WPL C14 and go from 6V to 7.4.. Bang, cook the server straight away! No steering lol.
Yep, running stuff on voltages they weren't designed for will cause bad things to happen.. Happy flying
@@Painless360 Lol you're not wrong, sometimes it's worth it.
Just gonna get some more durable parts anyway haha.
I've often seen mentioned that the wires from the motor to the ESC should be extended (if needed) and not the wires from the power source. Your thoughts.
TheGusK This is right, the power to the ESC is always flowing in the same direction so keeping these shorter is good.
Happy flying!
Thanks for your explanation. Something im still in question about is, can you ad reverse to any ESC or do you have to get a certain one?
Most ESCs allow you to reverse, but simply swapping any two of the three wires to the motor does the same thing... Happy flying
Another great video..
couldn`t find the links you mentioned in video..
Kevin Ray There now ;)
nice. very clear explanation, I learned a lot.
👍👍 from 2017, lok
Hey man great video tutorial very easy to understand, so thanks. I'm thinking of building copter but with a difference, I want to build one with 3 lift motors and two propulsion motors. So in otherwords 3 motors in the y axis and and 2 in the x axis. I'm just getting up to speed with ESC etc and wanted to know in principal would it be possible to control this set up and how one wuld go about wiring it? All help gratefully received
+tim lazenby not sure, I've seen other development models that use a similar setup though.. Best of luck!
Very good video again. Can you tell me why my 20amp esc operates fine with a 3s li-po battery but when trying to use a 3S li-ion the throttle starts to play up. Full throttle and speed then begins to fall and then motor violently pulses
LVC maybe? Usually needs dropping if using LiIon. See my videos on LiIon packs.. Happy flying
Another great video and your channel is my first stop for technical information on RC! Hopefully you can help me with this? If you use ESCs without BECs what would be the best way to set up a 5 volt power supply?
Peter Arnold To see more videos on RC power systems visit - ruclips.net/user/playlist?list...
You need to use a separate UBEC to power the board. Some now come fitted to the power distribution boards for simplicity.
Happy flying!
Painless360 Thanks for your help. I have also been looking around for a 40A BLHeli ESC and there doesn't seem to be many around but found this one www.banggood.com/EMAX-BLHeli-Series-40A-50A-60A-80A-UBEC-ESC-p-963632.html.
My concern is that the price for this one and other similar ones are suspiciously low? Is price something to be concerned about?
Lower process can certainly mean lower quality but getting them from the manufacturers via a middleman can still get you great technology for the lower price.
Personally I'd give them a try..
Painless360 Thanks again for your help. I will give then a go.
Have received my skyfun todaty with a 25Amp linear esc bec but i have no idea how can I use a separated batery in order to control telemetry in one side with its own Bec and the motor and throtle in the other ... do you guys have a video showing how to use 2 separated batts for tha5? Thank you ;)
Fantastic explanation, thank you for taking the time out to make this vid!
One question I have is, what type of ESC should I use when using a standard 12v automotive lead acid battery as a power supply? I want to run an EDF using manual control for speed/thrust adjustment so I figured a servo tester connected to an appropriate ESC should do the job as I can use the manual mode potentiometer to control the speed but what about the battery type? Is this going to be an issue?
Any standard ESC that supports a 3S LIPO should be fine. The ESC doesn't care about the battery type, just that it is the right voltage and can supply the current it needs.. Best of luck!
Ah yes I realise now what the 2S, 3S etc.... represent, that was the part confusing me voltage/amp rating. Thanks again :)
Great video! How can I tell if an ESC is going out? My quadcopter drifts to the left and forward after flying for a bit. Also, the front left motor doesn't seem to have the brake control working . Usually if I flick the props with my finger they don't spin while connected to the esc's. The front left one now spins freely when connected to the esc.
+Jeremy Dockter It is a STORM SRD 280 v2 with storm 15A esc and 2200kv motors
+Jeremy Dockter Sounds like the settings on one of your ESCs is different. That on it's own can cause problems like you are seeing. Normally ESCs fail in a dramatic way..
Hi! Great video and great explanation!
I’m currently building a quadcopter using an APM 2.8 and maybe you could help me solve some questions I have. I have LD Power ESC’s with NO BEC’s. Does that mean that to power the APM I should leave the JP1 INSIDE to power the whole APM with the 5V the power module provides and leave the power cables from all of the ESC’s connected? In that case, will those 5V the power module provide be enough to power the whole APM or could I have voltage shortage problems, or over voltage problems coming from adding the power module voltage and the ESC voltage (with no BEC the ESC’s should not be powering the APM at all, wright?)?
Thanks in advance!
See the power video in our APM series for the answer to your question. Best of luck!
well done bro liked and subscribed!
+Shinra Kitsune welcome to the channel. Best of luck!
thank you very much it's really really best explanation👍👍👍👍👍
I would like to ask you what ESC would u suggest for my quadcoptor , I just started making my DRONE
+mourya vamsi see the 'Quadcopter building for beginners' series for that and more! Best of luck!
Very helpful, thanks!
fantastic sir...this is the thing i was looking for mainly the BEC part...i am usuing a 12amp simonk with BEC with cc3d open pilot and i was wondering whather i should pop out the hot wires from the remaing 3 or not...you make me to take the right choice...mine are linear...thank you :-)
Glad it helped! Happy flying!
I'm a bit unclear on the OPTO ESC's. I was planning to use my OPTOs for motor only and using a separate 6V batt to power my servos etc. Do I need to use a separate BEC or can I just plug the 6V battery pack into my receiver BATT slot?
Thanks for these videos, I subscribed.
thank you this is very helpful...i have quadcopter that only has two wires for each motor as they are brushed motors..the motors burn up allot ..i was wondering if there's was way to run the brushed motor in this quad with one of these speed controllers? or am i just crazy ..i'm a newb to this stuff ..i'm a mechanic too so i'm able to fix stuff..but only if i understand it ....which i don't at the moment
Not easily, brushed motors are used on the cheaper models. you dont mention the model you have but you could google for a brushless conversion kit for it.
Best of luck!
I have these Tarot 40A 2S - 6S ESC OneShot & SimonK Firmware with 5V BEC - TL2953, the specs say they are linear but you mentioned that linear are only for 4S Lipos. I have 6 of these going onto my Tarot 680 hexacopter, so now I'm a bit worried as to the suitability of these ESC,s.
They will be fine but I'd not use them to provide the 5v the flight controller and pieces need. I'd power it using a dedicated 5V BEC.. See the other videos where I cover this in the 'Introduction to Remote Control' and 'Quadcopter building for beginners' too..
many thanks, I'll take a look at your videos, my tarot build has turned out to be a bit of a nightmare, but at the same time a very interesting learning curve. Thanks again.
Thanks for the video
I am college student, and we are working on small team project this quarter. we planed to build a control moving platform can hold 50kg(with one 4 inch wheel). we have GForce 400kv motor, 120 ESC Brushless speed control, 8.4V battery, and 2.4ghz Radio System Transmitter. After we contected all parts, the motor only worked twice, then never work anymore. Could you tell us what's problem we might have and how to make it better? Thank you!
+ubbelohed Wu this is a little outside what we normally do here. But normal troubleshooting rules will apply. I'd check the motor driver and wiring as a first thing, then start to look at the logic and firmware on the controller. Best of luck with the project.
Another great tutorial, thanks!
I have read in a couple of places that Switched BECs provide a less clean supply when compared to Linear ... which may cause interference when powering FPV equipment. Do you agree?
+zoso12 The output capacitors and smoothing circuitry is normally well up to the task of smoothing the 5v output to be silky smooth. I suppose those that use smaller caps and lower quality components may have problems but I've not seen it..
Really great video, thanks! I have a question. I have linear escs. Do I have to connect all four 5v to the cc3d or can I just connect one and use the others for lights and stuff? Are there any benefits in connecting them all to the cc3d? Thanks again!
Can you do a video on testing the ESCs and motors with a multimeter to check if they are running properly
+scimitar4211 Interesting idea, what specifically caused you to ask?
+Painless360 I am in the process of building a Blackout mini h, currently I have run into some problems. When testing my motors using Cleanflight 2 of 4 ESCs let out the magic smoke and possibly ruining the motors as well. I am sure all the pros check their ESCs before soldering to the PDB and to the motors, but to us newbies we just solder on and hope for the best. Unfortunately I learned my lesson the hard way and I will be getting a multimeter to test my ESCs next time. Some of us do not know how to check for continuity on the ESCs and/or the motors (including myself) so I thought it would be a great idea for a pro like yourself to do a video on that.
Does an ESC amplify the current or input current equals the output current ??? Thank you for sharing
No, check out the other videos in the introduction to remote control playlist. Best of luck!
Another great vid. Thanks.
Outstanding video!
Hello. I'm intent on using an RC motor in a project and have a 12V power supply and a PWM all set to go. Is it possible to connect a brushless to the PWM without an ESC or is the latter a must for brushless? If so, what motor then can I just connect to a PWM in just cutting the wires and attaching it? Your diagram and animations are informative BTW 'cos I'm learning as I go with this stuff.
+James Taylor The simple answer is.. you need an esc if you are using a brushless motor. Best of luck!
ok, i'm in a bit of a conundrum.I was trying to use a brushless motor (thanks again on clearing that other question up, btw) and my intent is to use a 12v power supply connected to a PWM which is then connected to the brushless motor. This is is all for a project. Question: am I mental for thinking this will work?
Power supply: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N0O646U/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1
PWM: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01H1W79S0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Motor (I'm returning this one before I make the mistake of overloading it): www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01149JBNC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Hello Mr. Painless360, I've got some Optio ESCs (emax 40A) and trying to understand how to setup.@18:18 you say something about an "incoming rail". What do you mean? I just cut all the red wires from the ESCs to the flight-controler and then power only one of them on the side into the flight-controller from a seperate ubec, right?
Thanks for the effort you're making with these videos, much appreciated.
Hi sir i have a question i have linear 30A escs.how do i wire it up to a tcmmrc f4 flight controller..im stuck on the part where the big red wire and black wire setup and then the smaller wires signal..ground ..you said in one video about not using red wire so i took them off.can u make a video on this..thank you
I'm guessing you're not a regular viewer. If the ESCs have linear BECs then you can connect all the red power wires to the FC without a problem (normally). See my recent 'basics' video - ruclips.net/video/xPDc6r6nRTU/видео.html