Not a hater.... love my pocket jig, use it quite often. But, I'm in the camp of if you are using exotic woods & don't want to see pocket holes, don't use them, and step up your woodcraft game...
Yep, pay attention to your grain directions. But if the wood will be hidden, you don't need to plug them. For soft wood like pine. I just use dowels cut to about 2" to fill the holes.
I mean, I get pocket holes. And when I'm building, like, a shop cabinet out of basic pine, yeah, pocket hole the doors, no problem. But if you're going to go through the effort and expense of zebrawood or some other exotic species, at least go tongue-and-groove on the doors or something. It's really not that difficult. All you need is a table saw, which you probably already have if you're building cabinets.
Dave Starr Or biscuit joints if you want something quick and easy, and aren't terribly concerned about strength. I use my jig at least once a week, but this is just silly. I find the plugs quite useful, but really only when I'm doing paint grade work. For again grade work you really should be using better joinery.
"tongue-and-groove " really? The proper joint would be more like a mortise and tenon and to the guy that suggested biscuits, that's not even a structural joint, their only used for alignment... Get over yourself's, not everyone has the skills, tools or time to apply classic joinery to their projects. Pocket holes have open up woodworking to many that normally wouldn't be able to tackle such projects. If pocket holes aren't for you then fine, but they are a great alternative for many others. And for the guy that suggested biscuits, you might want to try pocket holes, they work a lot better than biscuits!!!
Nanoqx it’s why so many professionals hate pocket screw joints, because any person can build a full kitchen cabinet system, or anything with wood. It is a great system and has been around for a very long time. I do agree that expensive not average furniture should never have pocket screw joints. Mortise and tenon or tongue and grove joints are the way to go, depending on the quality of the product that is being produced. Biscuits are good for aligning boards and joints together with glue and in most cases those joints need some sort of structural fastener. Domino and dowel are very structural joints. Pocket screw joints are very strong and a great joint, but they should only be used in hidden spots on expensive work piece! 👍🏻👍🏻
Door router bit set will take care of those pesky pocket holes. I use a kreg jig sometimes, but I use it where it wont show. Or I fill the holes with epoxy and paint.
Just received my kreg plug cutting and am disappointed, 75% of the plugs I have cut, the ends have snapped off while drilling. Also they don't fit into the pocket hole easily. Am I doing something wrong???
YES you are. Try setting the collar so you do NOT cut as deep into the plug stock. This will make the end longer and stronger so the plug will NOT break off. Try it.
I worked for D J Bettencourt Furniture for a few years. We used pocket holes for the back side of production level face frames only. Never would we put a pocket hole where it could be seen; plugged or not. I simply can't see why anyone would do that. For a door? If you like the butt joint look then even half lap joints would be better than this. My preference is a miter-half lap or a stop mortise & tenon. If I were using exotic wood like that, I would spend the time to do the joint right. I know of no place that would do otherwise.
Yes it is www.amazon.com/KREG-Pocket-Hole-Cutter-System/dp/B01M5935O8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480504090&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=Kreg+Pocket+Hole+Plug+Cutter&psc=1&smid=A2NWLOWWF5G7JX
We aren't all journeyman carpenters! I'm starting out on a queen bed. Reclaimed barn (red) wood. This a great solution for me. I am disappointed at the price of the plug cutter.
So… This was an advertisement from Peachtree Woodworking advertising a Kreg tool. I'm fine with that. But why did it have to be preceded by yet another commercial? Shouldn't an ad within a commercial be enough? At least I could skip most of the opening ad. Other than that, I gotta get me one of those new Kreg jigs.
Used my standard plug cutter for the first time today. The plug will not fit into the pocket hole, it is too big. I have the 3/8 standard pocket hole bit. Do i need the micro cutter or do i need to ream out the hole a bit? Sand the plug down?
I like pocket screws for some things, but using pocket holes on a cabinet door is blasphemy. If you are the type of person who wishes to have their work discarded every time something is no longer considered trendy, then go ahead and use your pocket holes.
It is a nice idea but it is Way overpriced! I make my own dowels out of any kind of wood I want, tap them in them in into pocket and flush cut them. Done. 🤣🛫
Sure that works. But I bet it takes you a LOT more time and effort to cut off the excess plug then it would if you use the Kreg plugs that are the correct length to fit the hole. Cheaper? YES, But more work and time reguired your way.
Sadly it seems to be becoming standard even in the industry. Not like when I was a cabinet maker using all mortise and tennon, floating tennon, or hidden dovetail joinery.
Glenn Storey Yeah got enough practice in until you didn't need it anymore. I remember my inspiration to get it right.... Not getting a quick crack upside the back of my head. lol
PaPaChillJay A true woodworker uses all available processes where they are best suited for a project. Pocket screws have a legitimate place in woodworking but it's up to a skilled Craftsman to know where and when to use what.
but, "if you're like me, a true woodworker...". Yeah, right - that's why he is using pocket holes for a cabinet face vs mortis and tenon or another hidden joinery method...especially on expensive hardwood.
Well I do a lot of woodworking and you are semi right. Most of the time in cabinetry I have the shaper bit that make cuts that the panel and rails enter lock. But sometime I make utility cabinets that don't need to be so fancy and I use my Kreg system. its faster and much stronger. As for the scraps I keep scraps but you don't need to as you will have small scraps when you are making your project. I can tell you the Kreg system is not the most important but probably the most used piece of equipment used day in and day out!
I find that the plug cutter is absolutely useless, because no matter what you do 1 out of 15 plugs are good to use. The other 14 plugs get torn up or break. I have had my kit for over three years and it’s always the same result, useless! Fast speed, slow speed or medium speed. Regular drill or hammer drill. Corded drill or cordless, always the same result, waste of time and money!🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
But without practice you can't even cut a straight line decently. This is a gadget for people looking for the easy way out rather than practice. But if you feel you need a handicap like that then I suggest a biscuit joiner or the more expensive festool domino joiner. Those are at least completely hidden. Trust me if you compare these plugs to a totally hidden design like the 2 I mentioned you would be 100 times more happy with your own results.
Sho81 Biscuit joiners are reportedly useless for adding strength. The only reason that everyone posting here is so against the Jig is because it's new. I don't care for the plugs and would use a different method if the holes couldn't be completely hidden out of sight but the tool is otherwise pretty great. Plenty of "real" woodworkers use it.
Never said anything about real woodworkers. And I understand there is a use for it. And biscuit joiners are not meant for strength. They are more for alignment than anything else. But personally as a long time woodworker I am noticing a trend where no one wants to practice any kind of traditional joinery except for these quick fix methods like pocket holes. It is a matter of personal taste really. I wouldn't be able to be happy from a personal stand point if I used pocket holes because I know I am capable of so much more. If you want to use it be my guest but at least learn a bit about the old ways so you always have options open to you. Will help with your quality of work and creativity.
This is a commercial.. I downvote, will never subscribe to channels that dont make that clear to begin with but rather act like it's just a regular guy reviewing a product he picked up at a local hardware store. you hurt your own channel in the end.
Seems like a lot of extra tools accessories and expense to replace proper carpentry done with a saw , chisel and mallet. If your using screws your not a carpenter.
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This guy is good at showing us his wood
Nice to see you're still getting acting gigs Clint Howard
I use the dowell method but use a wood chisel and then sand.
Works well on harder woods but sort of tends to shred soft wood plugs.
shoot its shedding the end of my red oak plugs too! cant even use pine plugs,, looks like Nabisco shredded wheat on the end! WTH?? not happy!
I wonder if this bit would cut plugs on the Foreman?
Very, very nice.
Do they have a clampable version you know one that you just clamp on the wood as that's the pocket hole jig I have
Sending my full support gdblesss.
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Wow, many Kreg haters here. I use mine a lot, and it is the perfect answer when the screws must not show.
Not a hater.... love my pocket jig, use it quite often. But, I'm in the camp of if you are using exotic woods & don't want to see pocket holes, don't use them, and step up your woodcraft game...
I have to install several 2"x4" made from pine to build a new wall. Can this be used for pine as well?
Yep, pay attention to your grain directions. But if the wood will be hidden, you don't need to plug them. For soft wood like pine. I just use dowels cut to about 2" to fill the holes.
I mean, I get pocket holes. And when I'm building, like, a shop cabinet out of basic pine, yeah, pocket hole the doors, no problem. But if you're going to go through the effort and expense of zebrawood or some other exotic species, at least go tongue-and-groove on the doors or something. It's really not that difficult. All you need is a table saw, which you probably already have if you're building cabinets.
Dave Starr Or biscuit joints if you want something quick and easy, and aren't terribly concerned about strength. I use my jig at least once a week, but this is just silly. I find the plugs quite useful, but really only when I'm doing paint grade work. For again grade work you really should be using better joinery.
"tongue-and-groove " really? The proper joint would be more like a mortise and tenon and to the guy that suggested biscuits, that's not even a structural joint, their only used for alignment... Get over yourself's, not everyone has the skills, tools or time to apply classic joinery to their projects. Pocket holes have open up woodworking to many that normally wouldn't be able to tackle such projects. If pocket holes aren't for you then fine, but they are a great alternative for many others. And for the guy that suggested biscuits, you might want to try pocket holes, they work a lot better than biscuits!!!
Nanoqx it’s why so many professionals hate pocket screw joints, because any person can build a full kitchen cabinet system, or anything with wood. It is a great system and has been around for a very long time. I do agree that expensive not average furniture should never have pocket screw joints. Mortise and tenon or tongue and grove joints are the way to go, depending on the quality of the product that is being produced. Biscuits are good for aligning boards and joints together with glue and in most cases those joints need some sort of structural fastener. Domino and dowel are very structural joints. Pocket screw joints are very strong and a great joint, but they should only be used in hidden spots on expensive work piece!
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Door router bit set will take care of those pesky pocket holes.
I use a kreg jig sometimes, but I use it where it wont show. Or I fill the holes with epoxy and paint.
Just received my kreg plug cutting and am disappointed, 75% of the plugs I have cut, the ends have snapped off while drilling. Also they don't fit into the pocket hole easily. Am I doing something wrong???
YES you are. Try setting the collar so you do NOT cut as deep into the plug stock. This will make the end longer and stronger so the plug will NOT break off. Try it.
Upon reading the comments below it's obvious that there are a lot of pricks working with wood out there...
Ha, agree! It's not just woodworkers . Nothing worse to me than smart ass jerks and their comments.
@@stacycockrell8548 ; You got that Right ! Especially that A-Hole Joseph Ramirez !!!
Who else has a test tomorrow but must know about pocket holes
Red Forman makes best plugs.
very informative, thanks!
Minute 2:23 OMG watch plug cutter next to the black box
Nice. Thanks for the information
I worked for D J Bettencourt Furniture for a few years. We used pocket holes for the back side of production level face frames only. Never would we put a pocket hole where it could be seen; plugged or not. I simply can't see why anyone would do that. For a door? If you like the butt joint look then even half lap joints would be better than this. My preference is a miter-half lap or a stop mortise & tenon. If I were using exotic wood like that, I would spend the time to do the joint right. I know of no place that would do otherwise.
Nice tool making a good tight joint with a good hide if you need more than that your priorities might need work !;-)
Is it yet available in Amazon?
Yes it is
www.amazon.com/KREG-Pocket-Hole-Cutter-System/dp/B01M5935O8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480504090&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=Kreg+Pocket+Hole+Plug+Cutter&psc=1&smid=A2NWLOWWF5G7JX
PeachtreeWoodworks Thanks
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Will the plug cutter work with my K-2 aluminum jig?
Bill unfortunately the Custom Pocket Hole Plug Cutter works with the K3, K4 and K5 Jigs only.
just bought the k4 kit but I cant find the adapter for a shop vac any where.Can I buy it by its self?
Finally!
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IT'S ALIVE!!! At 2:24 it moves by itself. OMG, we're all gonna die!!
Seriously WTF?
I didn't even notice until seeing your comment
He leans on the box and the corner lifts the jig just enough to spin
I can't focus on anything but the jig on the table moving on its own @ 2:23
Shop ghost...lol
We aren't all journeyman carpenters! I'm starting out on a queen bed. Reclaimed barn (red) wood. This a great solution for me. I am disappointed at the price of the plug cutter.
I am disappointed at the price of anything made by kreg
So… This was an advertisement from Peachtree Woodworking advertising a Kreg tool. I'm fine with that. But why did it have to be preceded by yet another commercial? Shouldn't an ad within a commercial be enough?
At least I could skip most of the opening ad.
Other than that, I gotta get me one of those new Kreg jigs.
Who cares?
Kenny Rogers
That ad was probably inserted by google because this is YT owned by google. If you use an ad blocker (like ublock) it will go away.
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Used my standard plug cutter for the first time today. The plug will not fit into the pocket hole, it is too big. I have the 3/8 standard pocket hole bit. Do i need the micro cutter or do i need to ream out the hole a bit? Sand the plug down?
Genius! About time!
You’d use dowel or biscuit joinery on zebra wood.
I agree, I cant think how you make decent doors using screws or screws on exotic woods.
I would like 1 of these but cannot get from Amazon as i live in Australia and buying from Kreg is double the price of the unit due to shipping
You can purchase Kreg products in Australia from Carba-Tech - they have stores in each capital city and also ship from their online store.
VERY COOL !!!!
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Des articles comme se lui la n'existe pas en Algérie dommage 🙁
nice !;-)
Who holds a drill like that?
Nice to see that the bits are made in China, way to go Kreg.
this guy loves to talk about scrap piece of wood hahaha
Man using zebra wood with this kind of jig... what a shame.
plugs nothing new?..dam near the oldest fastener..ask any ship joiner..
I like pocket screws for some things, but using pocket holes on a cabinet door is blasphemy. If you are the type of person who wishes to have their work discarded every time something is no longer considered trendy, then go ahead and use your pocket holes.
Jim Dent wwwh
It is a nice idea but it is Way overpriced! I make my own dowels out of any kind of wood I want, tap them in them in into pocket and flush cut them. Done. 🤣🛫
Sure that works. But I bet it takes you a LOT more time and effort to cut off the excess plug then it would if you use the Kreg plugs that are the correct length to fit the hole. Cheaper? YES, But more work and time reguired your way.
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Skip the screws and plugs all together and use a corner-bridle joint! Be a real woodworker! :)
Why are you even watching this video...freakin asshole.
I use my Kreg a lot, but for this application, I'll stick with a biscuit.
HobbyVAWT even with a biscuit you still need some type of structural fastener to support the piece for longevity!
Well I wouldn’t use pocket screws on an “exotic” piece of furniture
Its very simple folks "A true woodworker" like he stated himself being. Does not use pocket holes.
Why not? Do you think the furniture makers and cabinet makers of the past wouldn't have used them?
Sadly it seems to be becoming standard even in the industry. Not like when I was a cabinet maker using all mortise and tennon, floating tennon, or hidden dovetail joinery.
Meh. I've been a carpenter for 35 years. When i started I used a mitre box, and a hammer and nail set. I've happily left those days behind.
Glenn Storey Yeah got enough practice in until you didn't need it anymore. I remember my inspiration to get it right.... Not getting a quick crack upside the back of my head. lol
PaPaChillJay A true woodworker uses all available processes where they are best suited for a project. Pocket screws have a legitimate place in woodworking but it's up to a skilled Craftsman to know where and when to use what.
that is a weak ass scrap bin LMAO
FIRST OF ALL... No one working with expensive zebra wood is going to use pocket holes for joinery.
thank you
the comercial is too long
I don't think a good cabinet builder would use pocket holes to build doors.
but, "if you're like me, a true woodworker...". Yeah, right - that's why he is using pocket holes for a cabinet face vs mortis and tenon or another hidden joinery method...especially on expensive hardwood.
Well said well said!!
He doesn't do to much woodworking. he would not be able to keep all his scraps
Well I do a lot of woodworking and you are semi right. Most of the time in cabinetry I have the shaper bit that make cuts that the panel and rails enter lock. But sometime I make utility cabinets that don't need to be so fancy and I use my Kreg system. its faster and much stronger. As for the scraps I keep scraps but you don't need to as you will have small scraps when you are making your project. I can tell you the Kreg system is not the most important but probably the most used piece of equipment used day in and day out!
He said he has "multiple bins" and I have seen others do the same thing with their scraps (limited to unique project species).
Please get to the point quickly.
yet another piece of plastic Kreg will rip people off with and overprice it
That's woodworking chinese style!
Patrick LastName well everything is made in China!
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don't forget "these safety glasses"....
Too much Talking!!!@
I find that the plug cutter is absolutely useless, because no matter what you do 1 out of 15 plugs are good to use. The other 14 plugs get torn up or break. I have had my kit for over three years and it’s always the same result, useless! Fast speed, slow speed or medium speed. Regular drill or hammer drill. Corded drill or cordless, always the same result, waste of time and money!🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
$80!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FAIL
I think you people forget that not everybody is as skilled or have all the equipment and experience to be master woodworker fight from the word go!
But without practice you can't even cut a straight line decently. This is a gadget for people looking for the easy way out rather than practice. But if you feel you need a handicap like that then I suggest a biscuit joiner or the more expensive festool domino joiner. Those are at least completely hidden. Trust me if you compare these plugs to a totally hidden design like the 2 I mentioned you would be 100 times more happy with your own results.
Sho81 Biscuit joiners are reportedly useless for adding strength. The only reason that everyone posting here is so against the Jig is because it's new. I don't care for the plugs and would use a different method if the holes couldn't be completely hidden out of sight but the tool is otherwise pretty great. Plenty of "real" woodworkers use it.
Never said anything about real woodworkers. And I understand there is a use for it. And biscuit joiners are not meant for strength. They are more for alignment than anything else. But personally as a long time woodworker I am noticing a trend where no one wants to practice any kind of traditional joinery except for these quick fix methods like pocket holes. It is a matter of personal taste really. I wouldn't be able to be happy from a personal stand point if I used pocket holes because I know I am capable of so much more. If you want to use it be my guest but at least learn a bit about the old ways so you always have options open to you. Will help with your quality of work and creativity.
I dont buy nothing from Kreg over priced
This is a commercial.. I downvote, will never subscribe to channels that dont make that clear to begin with but rather act like it's just a regular guy reviewing a product he picked up at a local hardware store. you hurt your own channel in the end.
Seems like a lot of extra tools accessories and expense to replace proper carpentry done with a saw , chisel and mallet. If your using screws your not a carpenter.
Why though